Ali Dawah - November 20, 2025


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11 minutes

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223.5171

Word count

2,634

Sentence count

2

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Misogyny

1

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Hate speech

17

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Summary

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In this episode we discuss the difference between being a Christian and atheist and how science has changed our understanding of the universe and how we believe in God. We also talk about the bees and their intelligence and how they have a solar compass.

Transcript

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00:00:23.880 inshallah enjoy the video you guys are you christian atheist agnostic uh no we're not we're don't
00:00:28.840 believers uh so you're atheist yes yes that's the word yeah i don't know the word yeah atheist yes i
00:00:36.200 can i can prove god exists what evidence do you need to believe in god or a creator i can prove
00:00:41.080 god exists in two minutes i i believe there is a god yes but i don't believe in like how they play
00:00:48.260 the believing out like the rules they made and okay things i don't like it so so you you believe
00:00:54.100 in a creator but you don't believe in the rules i like in some rules but not all okay so someone
00:01:01.300 not all you do you believe in god you don't believe um well i'm like a little bit spiritual i believe in
00:01:06.820 the universe and like that kind of stuff but i don't believe like the universe is a person so not
00:01:13.780 a god but i believe in the universe okay so we agree with that so we we we agree that the universe
00:01:19.460 is an inan it's inanimate in the sense yeah so we don't believe the universe is god so let's just
00:01:25.140 i can prove god exists in two minutes yes if you got two minutes okay okay i'll use your ring can i look
00:01:31.460 at your ring yes okay do you accept okay do you mind taking off yeah i'm not gonna run away don't worry
00:01:36.900 okay so so yeah so you you will accept sister that there's a v shape yeah is that what your name
00:01:45.060 stands this is the initial of your name no okay good okay good so you accept that it has a specific
00:01:50.500 pattern symmetrical yeah good it has diamonds yeah no yeah okay good this this yeah okay but it's this
00:01:57.860 has a purpose yeah yeah okay i'll just give that to you so that ring has a specific shape it has a design
00:02:03.940 and it has a purpose yeah i know this story and we are designed too good so good so you would agree
00:02:09.700 that your eye is far more complex in design than your ring right yeah good your eyes million times
00:02:14.500 more complex because your eyes made out of dna we do know dna has information yeah so it's composed
00:02:19.220 of three billion letters yeah it's like letters yeah okay good so if there's information it requires
00:02:24.900 intelligence so for example if i have a book if the book has information it means somebody wrote that book
00:02:30.500 yeah there's intelligence yeah do you understand what i mean yeah good so we say if the ring has a
00:02:36.500 designer the ring has a purpose the ring has a shape you have a shape you have a purpose you have to
00:02:41.540 have a designer something must have created you yeah yeah that that sounds uh logical i think i think
00:02:49.940 that's a really good like uh thing i think that's really smart but i don't like the i just don't like
00:02:56.100 the way they okay okay we'll come to the rules do we agree that rationally and logically there has
00:03:00.900 to be a creator that created us um um now actually i'm not sure of that because um i also believe in
00:03:09.300 science so look you can you know like darwin you know darwin yeah charles darwin he was he was the one
00:03:15.300 who came with the evolutionary theory but he believed in god so so so you can be someone that believes in
00:03:20.180 science and believe in god yeah so like i i'm raised to believe in science because my dad also
00:03:25.700 is like a dna scientist good so the way i'm brought up is like to believe in science and that's why
00:03:32.260 people are things are the way they are good i believe in science now with science science tells
00:03:36.740 us how things work so science will come and tell us the way the bees work like you know bees
00:03:42.100 yeah okay you know bees are very intelligent you know when a bee for example goes and finds honey
00:03:46.900 yes or nectar yes it comes back to the colony so you know where the colony where the bees are
00:03:52.980 the bee comes back and it starts to dance you know what that dance means so it wiggles its tail
00:03:59.300 in a specific shape what it's doing is telling the other bees where the nectar is and the direction so
00:04:04.980 the bees have a solar compass even when it's cloudy they know where the sun is so what it does is it
00:04:09.220 intelligently knows where the nectar is it comes back and tells the other bees the direction and the
00:04:14.740 distance of where the nectar is that's intelligence so we say which being created them to be cognitive
00:04:20.500 and of intelligence it has to be a creator does that make sense okay so so what we're saying is
00:04:26.580 that all of this intelligence and the bees and the creation and the sun and the moon there is order
00:04:31.220 if there is order there has to be an order maker so we say that is the creator okay so logically and
00:04:36.180 rationally and going with science science used as a empiricism which is your eyes sight hearing touching
00:04:41.700 feeling yeah so these are the things that we use so we say we use these things logically and rationally
00:04:46.420 to understand there must be a creator that created you the way you are your dna makes your hair blonde
00:04:51.220 mine not your eyes whatever color mine a different color so we say it's done purposefully does that
00:04:57.860 make sense good now going back to the rules so if a creator exists for example are you guys you're not
00:05:03.780 married okay once one day when you get married and you have children would you agree if your child comes
00:05:08.500 to you and says i want to try cocaine would you say yeah go and try some cocaine or would you say no
00:05:12.100 that's not good for me no but for me the rules is about gay people i don't like homosexuality yes okay 1.00
00:05:18.020 i don't and i don't think it's like good that other people yeah sorry you're famous i don't think it's
00:05:25.220 good that other people get like get punished because they are how they are okay so i'll tell you i'll tell you
00:05:34.340 as in islam look we're not we're not christians so christians go and tell gay people you're going 0.99
00:05:39.540 hell in islam we are not allowed to tell anyone they're going hell as a muslim if you are arguing
00:05:44.580 to take a lesbian or gay you can still be a muslim we believe that the sin is acting upon it and even 1.00
00:05:50.900 if you act upon it you can still be a muslim to to not be a muslim is to deny that god doesn't exist
00:05:57.220 so if you're gay or lesbian or whatever you can still be a muslim even if you are committing the 0.94
00:06:01.860 sin you still can be a muslim the only place you don't become a muslim is as a gay person if you 0.99
00:06:07.380 say god loves what i do god doesn't love what you do we're a sinner for example a man who goes and
00:06:12.740 sleeps around or a woman who goes sleeps around in the sight of god you're still sinning but it
00:06:16.740 doesn't mean it doesn't make you a muslim so there's a misconception because a lot of christians
00:06:20.340 they say oh you're going hell because the one who created us decides for example you would agree 1.00
00:06:26.500 argument's sake if i for example gave you 10 billion pounds but tomorrow you're going to die
00:06:32.660 would you take the money no good which means life is more precious than 10 billion pounds
00:06:37.300 who is the one that's giving you that life every day we say the one who created you if the one who
00:06:42.260 created you has created you and given you everything your mom your dad the food that you eat it only
00:06:47.460 requires that we have to be obedient to his commands because we live on his earth if we live like you
00:06:52.420 know when living you're under your mom's rule and you say something listen you're in my house you
00:06:55.780 listen to my rules yeah she's your mom you say okay mommy because you know mom loves you
00:06:59.860 mom doesn't want bad for you so when mom comes and says don't do drugs don't do gambling don't drink
00:07:04.020 alcohol it's because she cares and loves you so we believe god loves us and wants us to stay away
00:07:09.060 from sense i like i think it's the way um a lot of people go about it yes a lot of muslims don't be 0.58
00:07:16.580 respected to uh that's wrong people who love men or love women yes so i just i don't i don't like the
00:07:24.500 way i like the belief and i like the book itself but i don't like how people true but muslims look 1.00
00:07:31.540 there are good and bad muslims there's good about christians it's good about atheists as muslims we 1.00
00:07:35.700 are not allowed to say to a gay person you are going hell it's not permissible because god decides
00:07:41.620 who's going where i might be a muslim i might end up in the hellfire so we have to be humble so i'm
00:07:46.100 sorry that you came across these muslims who are judgmental i get that i'm a muslim i get hate
00:07:49.940 from muslims sometimes so it's not correct for us to treat people i've spoken to many gay people
00:07:54.660 like in london i can remember we have our table like this in leicester square in central london
00:07:58.580 i don't know have you guys been london before okay if you go to london there's you know where the tv
00:08:01.860 is like there's there's a big screen it's like um it's called piccadilly circus in central london okay
00:08:08.900 so we have a table there once i was trying to speak to a gay man he's like no no you guys don't like
00:08:12.900 me i said no we have listen i said give me a chance i spoke to him i said listen we don't
00:08:16.660 have anything against you we just say the act is a sin but you still can be a muslim he was shocked 1.00
00:08:20.980 they said really i said yes really i spoke to him i gave him a quran we had a nice conversation
00:08:24.740 together he went his way because there's a misconception that we think gays are evil and
00:08:29.220 we don't hate them the sin yes but the same applies to a man who goes and sleeps around with 0.99
00:08:33.540 a woman the same applies to a woman who goes and sleeps around with men the sin is a sin we don't hate 0.98
00:08:38.100 the individual yes we do hate the sin you know so in a nutshell like if you look into islam forget 0.99
00:08:44.580 what muslims do yes muslims are good and bad you have all sorts but if you read the quran for yourself 1.00
00:08:50.020 you will accept and understand if i was to give you a mansion cars money you'll be respectful towards me
00:08:57.060 if i call you and say what's your name sister uh hasa hasa if i say hasa listen i need help come and
00:09:02.420 help you say okay ali no problem why because you're like ali's good he looks after me whatever if he needs
00:09:06.740 help one day i will pick up so with god god makes your heart beat every day your heart beats do you
00:09:11.300 tell your heart to beat do you control your heart good so we we say god if he's created us he looks
00:09:17.860 after us you eat food when you eat food does it taste good yes who create good who tasted you who
00:09:23.220 created your taste buds who created your eye who created your nose who created your like your whole
00:09:28.020 system so we say if god has done that for us it only is fair that we are obedient to what he says
00:09:33.940 that's our position okay but like the bees cannot pray but they still have been created to god
00:09:41.220 are they going to hell no no we don't we don't believe that so we believe judgment is for cognitive
00:09:46.420 beings like me and you we know right from wrong so when when god tells us do a and do b however in
00:09:52.660 islam we believe if you didn't hear the message of islam you will not go help because god is just how 0.99
00:09:59.060 could why would god throw you in hell if you stand and say god i one day spoke to ali my name is ali
00:10:03.860 he told me something about islam but i wasn't convinced you have a case in front of god because
00:10:08.820 we only believe you will get the punishment if i prove to you islam is the truth and in your heart 0.91
00:10:14.740 you say i think islam is the truth and you say but i don't want to follow it because i want to follow 1.00
00:10:19.220 my desires then you're in trouble but till now you don't know about islam you're still searching yeah
00:10:24.020 so if you die in the state you will be in front of god and god will judge you fairly we don't believe
00:10:28.980 in a god that's a vampire and he wants to throw everyone in hellfire rather the god we believe
00:10:33.300 if you read the quran every chapter starts with allah the most merciful the very merciful so god is
00:10:39.780 mercy like he is the most merciful and he doesn't want hellfire for his servants he says in the quran
00:10:44.260 allah says what would i get out of throwing you in hellfire what what benefit is it for me to throw 0.60
00:10:49.540 you in hellfire which means what god wants paradise for you yes and if you think about it sister in
00:10:55.460 this earth like we have food we enjoy we obviously if you're married you have intimacy that's something
00:11:00.500 that you enjoy when you sleep is something you enjoy so if god can create us and give us all of
00:11:04.980 these things that we can enjoy is it impossible for him to give us an eternal life where we're going
00:11:09.540 to get everything and more and there's going to be no pain and no uh sorrow it's a possibility
00:11:15.540 yeah sorry i'll talk too much no it's okay it's okay you have any questions no the two minutes was
00:11:20.660 for the gods okay okay i'm gonna think about this at home do you have quran can i give you quran
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