Ali Dawah - September 21, 2023


EMOTIONAL CHRISTIAN GETS HUMILIAT3D - EPIC BACKFIRE


Episode Stats

Length

8 minutes

Words per Minute

210.4557

Word Count

1,778

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

46


Summary

Brother Daniel, Jake, and Rashid Hamam debate the concept of the trinity and why people in the West have left Christianity over it. This is the crux of the matter and the reason why so many Muslims have abandoned Christianity.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I was thinking
00:00:00.860 Maybe
00:00:01.840 Hamam
00:00:02.520 Is going to be
00:00:03.500 Maybe
00:00:04.120 Second or third
00:00:05.320 Bro
00:00:06.100 Daniel
00:00:06.540 First
00:00:07.440 Jake second
00:00:09.200 Robert third
00:00:10.540 Bro
00:00:11.180 I thought people would
00:00:11.860 Be a bit soft
00:00:12.840 It's a
00:00:13.500 No one's
00:00:14.440 No one's buying it
00:00:15.920 No one's buying it
00:00:16.520 You know he got a bit emotional
00:00:17.440 He was going to cry
00:00:18.220 I thought maybe
00:00:19.060 There might be some people
00:00:19.860 There who are emotional
00:00:20.600 Yeah
00:00:21.000 People thought
00:00:21.840 What a wimp
00:00:22.500 Wimp
00:00:22.720 It's a little boy
00:00:23.500 A coward
00:00:23.900 Yeah he's a coward
00:00:24.420 That's what he is
00:00:25.880 So
00:00:26.140 Pussle anonymous
00:00:26.720 Exactly
00:00:27.420 And nobody bought it
00:00:29.040 You was right at the bottom
00:00:30.180 Okay that's what he deserved
00:00:31.260 Which is the Hamam
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00:00:57.040 Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
00:00:59.020 Brothers and sisters
00:00:59.900 And dear friends
00:01:00.380 So this is another reaction video
00:01:01.640 To one other part
00:01:02.720 Of the debate
00:01:03.860 That happened
00:01:04.600 Today
00:01:05.800 Between brother Daniel
00:01:07.540 Jake
00:01:08.420 Robert
00:01:09.700 And Rashid Hamam
00:01:10.780 Yeah
00:01:10.940 So we're going to watch this inshallah
00:01:12.160 And this is the crux of the matter
00:01:13.700 When it comes to the trinity
00:01:15.560 And why people in the millions
00:01:17.440 In the west
00:01:17.840 Have left Christianity
00:01:19.060 This is the crux of the matter
00:01:19.860 And I believe
00:01:20.280 If Patrick is watching this
00:01:21.460 I think when he invites you
00:01:22.500 To the table
00:01:23.440 Of the Christian and the Jew
00:01:24.480 This should be the main fundamental thing
00:01:26.380 Yeah I think I agree
00:01:27.140 This is what people are lacking
00:01:28.080 This is the crux of the matter
00:01:29.900 So let's watch it inshallah
00:01:31.100 Where Daniel here
00:01:31.900 Made a very valid point
00:01:33.500 Assistant theology
00:01:34.220 Sunnis and Shias
00:01:35.040 They all agree
00:01:35.800 On the
00:01:36.520 On monotheism
00:01:37.440 God is one
00:01:37.960 He is not like anything
00:01:38.700 They agree on the Quran
00:01:39.480 Yeah there can be some theological differences
00:01:41.120 And nuances between different schools
00:01:42.460 But there's not the same kind of
00:01:43.860 Disparity or variance
00:01:45.020 Between Christian sects
00:01:46.080 And this idea of the trinity
00:01:47.060 Which frankly no one can understand
00:01:48.440 Like what does it mean
00:01:49.040 To be three in one
00:01:49.740 Let me respond to that
00:01:51.240 Let me respond to that
00:01:52.580 My brother is mentioning
00:01:54.440 Divisions between Catholics
00:01:55.700 And Protestants
00:01:56.320 If I go back
00:01:57.040 There are divisions
00:01:57.600 Among the follower
00:01:58.780 The disciples of Muhammad
00:01:59.800 The Sahaba
00:02:00.340 Themselves
00:02:00.800 They killed each other
00:02:01.320 He couldn't defend himself
00:02:02.240 He couldn't
00:02:03.020 So this is what
00:02:04.360 Rashid Hammam doesn't understand
00:02:05.260 That's why his arguments
00:02:06.580 Belong to the Hammam
00:02:07.860 Which is the toilet
00:02:08.340 I'll tell you why
00:02:09.520 Listen
00:02:09.900 Look what Daniel said
00:02:11.380 Daniel said
00:02:11.980 Look he's talking about the trinity
00:02:13.080 It does not make sense
00:02:13.820 That's why they are afraid
00:02:15.700 To even talk about it
00:02:17.340 You're right
00:02:17.560 Absolutely
00:02:18.520 Can you imagine me
00:02:19.660 Absolutely
00:02:20.000 At any cause
00:02:20.780 Avoiding talking about Allah
00:02:22.520 And it's one
00:02:23.060 No no no
00:02:23.740 I don't want to go there
00:02:24.260 It shows how insecure you are
00:02:25.660 Now Daniel said
00:02:26.640 Something very interesting
00:02:27.240 You look at all the sex
00:02:28.660 In Islam
00:02:29.200 There is
00:02:29.980 Certain things that we have
00:02:31.080 In common when it comes
00:02:31.640 To the doctrine
00:02:32.560 Allah is one
00:02:33.840 The Prophet is the final messenger
00:02:35.640 The Quran is the final kitab
00:02:37.320 That's right
00:02:37.720 You're equating that
00:02:39.700 With the Sahaba
00:02:40.220 That fought each other
00:02:40.860 Did they fought each other
00:02:41.700 On Tawheed
00:02:42.200 Did they say no
00:02:43.160 Allah is three in one
00:02:44.020 And they said no
00:02:44.460 Allah is one only
00:02:45.360 No Allah is four in one
00:02:46.520 Allah is two in one
00:02:47.560 They fight
00:02:48.520 So their retort may be
00:02:49.880 Just to play devil's advocate
00:02:50.840 And I think he did
00:02:51.520 Kind of mention this
00:02:52.180 But he said it incorrectly
00:02:53.060 Because he's
00:02:53.620 He's a fool actually
00:02:54.560 I overestimated him
00:02:55.540 I thought
00:02:55.740 Of course
00:02:56.080 Yeah absolutely
00:02:57.800 Because he was saying
00:02:58.780 There was a difference
00:03:00.160 Among the scholars
00:03:01.320 In early Islam
00:03:02.000 He mentioned it somewhere
00:03:03.080 Whether or not
00:03:04.460 The Quran is
00:03:05.200 Created or eternal
00:03:06.600 Actually it wasn't about
00:03:07.440 The eternality
00:03:08.100 Of the Quran
00:03:09.140 Or the created nature
00:03:10.040 It was about
00:03:10.440 Whether it's
00:03:10.820 Harf and salt
00:03:11.500 Whether it's
00:03:12.580 Letters and sounds
00:03:15.500 Versus
00:03:16.840 If it was created
00:03:18.120 And yes
00:03:19.100 The whole
00:03:19.760 Qidam
00:03:20.120 Of it was something
00:03:21.340 Which is a subsidiary issue
00:03:22.300 But this is
00:03:23.200 He misrepresented
00:03:23.940 The theological discussion
00:03:25.560 But going back to the point
00:03:26.560 If you look at
00:03:28.400 The major theological discussions
00:03:30.280 That happened in early Islam
00:03:31.620 They never concerned
00:03:33.320 Who was God
00:03:34.340 Who
00:03:35.300 The question is
00:03:36.340 Who is God
00:03:37.000 Exactly
00:03:37.340 I mean it's not even about
00:03:38.360 What does God do
00:03:39.400 How does God do
00:03:40.240 What he does
00:03:40.820 How do we describe God
00:03:42.080 We're talking about
00:03:43.040 The whoness of God
00:03:44.880 And Jake does a very
00:03:46.860 Very good job
00:03:47.300 And so does Daniel
00:03:47.920 In presenting this point
00:03:49.280 But the fact is
00:03:50.920 And he mentioned this
00:03:52.580 Jake mentioned this
00:03:53.320 It took them
00:03:54.220 To the 4th century
00:03:55.120 To crystallize
00:03:56.120 The co-equality
00:03:57.780 And co-eternality
00:03:58.760 Of the three persons
00:03:59.620 Of the Trinity
00:04:00.120 Exactly
00:04:00.660 And that
00:04:01.160 If it was self-evident
00:04:02.920 Why did it take that long
00:04:03.900 They couldn't respond
00:04:05.000 And you can see here
00:04:05.680 Rashid Hammam
00:04:06.320 Hammami
00:04:08.180 When he was particularly
00:04:09.620 No it's Hammam
00:04:10.160 Whatever his name is
00:04:11.160 When he was asked
00:04:12.140 About that question
00:04:12.840 When he was asked
00:04:14.240 About that question
00:04:14.680 He went straight
00:04:15.160 To the Muslims
00:04:15.640 Fighting in the early days
00:04:16.760 What's that got to do
00:04:18.360 With the Trinity
00:04:18.820 Exactly
00:04:19.240 Why are you running away
00:04:20.580 This is cowardice
00:04:21.660 You can see the coward
00:04:22.520 He is a coward
00:04:23.820 Yes
00:04:24.280 He is an absolute coward
00:04:25.960 Why don't you
00:04:26.480 Why don't you face
00:04:27.360 The main thing
00:04:28.900 About your religion
00:04:29.500 One of the differences
00:04:30.700 Between Islam and Christianity
00:04:31.440 Is the Trinity
00:04:32.000 Exactly
00:04:32.520 One of the biggest differences
00:04:33.520 Of course
00:04:33.940 And the moment it's mentioned
00:04:35.420 You run away
00:04:36.320 You are a coward
00:04:37.880 That means
00:04:38.360 You know deep down
00:04:39.660 You can't defend your position
00:04:40.760 Exactly
00:04:41.140 Wallahi
00:04:41.680 That's what that means
00:04:42.520 It means deep down
00:04:43.560 You can't defend that position
00:04:44.660 You are a coward
00:04:45.680 They're both cowards
00:04:46.500 As soon as the Trinity
00:04:47.440 Comes up
00:04:47.920 Which is the main difference
00:04:49.140 And in fact
00:04:49.520 That does have
00:04:50.780 A creedal disproven implications
00:04:52.500 That one does have it
00:04:53.960 If you disprove the Trinity
00:04:55.420 You disprove of all of Christianity
00:04:56.540 Exactly
00:04:57.040 That one does have it
00:04:58.380 And yes exactly
00:04:59.500 And another point
00:05:00.320 Which we need to mention as well
00:05:01.360 Is that you need to understand
00:05:02.240 The rhetoric that they're coming with
00:05:03.320 Which I was shocked
00:05:05.020 That how it backfired
00:05:06.700 On them
00:05:07.340 Because they were coming with
00:05:08.140 This whole rhetoric of
00:05:08.740 Islam is violent
00:05:09.620 Inherently
00:05:10.120 And we've been hearing this
00:05:12.280 For the past
00:05:12.660 Like I've been in Muslim
00:05:13.340 For 10 years
00:05:13.760 But before that
00:05:14.200 I think they've been
00:05:14.600 Talking about it as well
00:05:15.360 For the past 20 years
00:05:16.360 Their main argument is what
00:05:17.880 Islam is inherently violent
00:05:19.060 Can you imagine
00:05:19.620 That's the strongest argument
00:05:20.480 Can you imagine bro
00:05:21.600 Yeah
00:05:21.740 Now and that's the reason
00:05:22.860 Why he keeps going to that
00:05:23.960 The Sahaba
00:05:24.300 That's why he went to it
00:05:25.040 But you know what's
00:05:25.740 Very profound Aki
00:05:26.620 People don't care anymore
00:05:27.580 That didn't work
00:05:28.160 Like he was about
00:05:28.700 He was about to even cry
00:05:29.520 I saw one moment
00:05:30.540 Like you're going to play
00:05:31.520 Like violin
00:05:32.040 Yeah
00:05:32.280 It didn't work
00:05:34.460 Because you look
00:05:36.000 Like if we look at Aki
00:05:38.120 What is one of the main reasons
00:05:39.940 People are coming to Islam
00:05:40.840 Tawheed
00:05:41.700 Yes
00:05:42.160 The fact that it is intolerant
00:05:43.940 Yes
00:05:44.220 Because there's so much tolerance
00:05:45.320 It has boundaries
00:05:46.500 People respected
00:05:47.840 Even Patrick
00:05:49.160 Yeah
00:05:49.460 Patrick even admits
00:05:51.540 These certain things
00:05:52.480 The point is what
00:05:53.380 Your arguments are not
00:05:54.680 Working anymore
00:05:55.360 Islam being inherently
00:05:56.700 Violent
00:05:57.040 Which is false
00:05:57.680 But let's go with
00:05:58.360 The argument
00:05:58.720 How does that make Islam false
00:06:00.900 How does it
00:06:02.200 Make Islam false
00:06:03.160 So all these efforts
00:06:04.460 You put in
00:06:04.980 The ex-Muslims
00:06:05.820 The Christians
00:06:06.640 The hate preachers
00:06:07.300 The Zionists
00:06:08.040 All of them together
00:06:08.640 Islam is this
00:06:09.420 Islam is that
00:06:09.980 For 10 years
00:06:11.020 And imagine
00:06:11.980 After that 10 years
00:06:12.900 Imagine you're going to war
00:06:13.720 And you're going with
00:06:14.620 One specific weapon
00:06:15.620 Your strongest argument
00:06:17.080 Your strongest argument
00:06:18.480 And guess what
00:06:19.400 People are coming to Islam
00:06:20.920 For that very reason
00:06:21.780 And for that
00:06:22.420 Bro you can't
00:06:23.220 Bro this is to me
00:06:24.260 It increases my faith
00:06:25.780 In Islam
00:06:26.260 Because it's like
00:06:26.820 You were attacking Islam
00:06:27.840 With this one weapon
00:06:28.640 Now that weapon
00:06:29.680 Is a reason why
00:06:30.360 People come into Islam
00:06:30.960 And to me
00:06:32.060 To see this guy
00:06:33.040 Crumble, cry
00:06:33.860 This happened
00:06:34.340 This story
00:06:35.080 This kind of
00:06:35.640 It wasn't winning
00:06:36.720 Bro I can do the same
00:06:38.200 When I came to Islam
00:06:39.080 How I was disowned
00:06:39.980 My family
00:06:40.540 All this kind of stuff
00:06:41.400 Bro I don't need to man
00:06:42.520 I don't need to talk about that
00:06:43.360 Let's talk about Tawheed
00:06:44.880 So you can see
00:06:45.920 The moment we speak
00:06:47.600 And the moment
00:06:48.220 The brothers spoke
00:06:49.200 About Tawheed and Trinity
00:06:50.540 They were terrified
00:06:52.020 And what would they
00:06:53.020 Keep going back to
00:06:53.640 Islam is inherently violent
00:06:55.000 That is the only thing
00:06:56.560 They have
00:06:56.980 And it is not working
00:06:58.200 It's gone blunt
00:06:58.920 It's gone blunt
00:06:59.720 And let's look at the polls
00:07:01.480 Let's look at the polls
00:07:02.460 He's right
00:07:02.880 I look at the poll
00:07:04.100 Not from us
00:07:05.320 It's not from us
00:07:05.920 It's not Adelie
00:07:06.880 Adelie conducted that
00:07:07.600 Adelie conducted that one
00:07:09.660 Exactly
00:07:09.920 I think Kopakka conducted that one
00:07:11.520 I was thinking
00:07:12.200 Maybe Hamam is going to be
00:07:14.860 Maybe second or third
00:07:16.680 Bro
00:07:17.460 Daniel
00:07:17.900 First
00:07:18.800 Jake second
00:07:20.560 Robert third
00:07:21.920 Bro
00:07:22.540 I thought people would
00:07:23.220 Be a bit soft
00:07:24.180 It's a
00:07:24.860 No one's buying it
00:07:27.280 No one's buying it
00:07:27.920 You know he got a bit emotional
00:07:28.800 He was going to cry
00:07:29.580 I thought maybe there might be
00:07:30.840 Some people there who are emotional
00:07:31.960 Yeah
00:07:32.360 People thought
00:07:33.200 What a wimp
00:07:33.880 Wimp
00:07:34.100 It's a little boy
00:07:34.860 A coward
00:07:35.240 Yeah he's a coward
00:07:35.760 That's what he is
00:07:37.240 So
00:07:37.500 Pussolanimous
00:07:38.100 Exactly
00:07:38.760 Nobody bought it
00:07:40.400 He was right at the bottom
00:07:41.540 Okay that's what he deserved
00:07:42.600 Which is the Hamam
00:07:43.180 Okay right at the bottom
00:07:44.500 So what I'm going to say is
00:07:45.460 I'm going to flush this
00:07:46.140 I'm going to flush this argument
00:07:47.060 For Rashid Hamam
00:07:48.380 Because he's in the toilet
00:07:49.120 Plus the puss
00:07:51.180 I mean that's it
00:07:53.760 And I believe
00:07:55.380 Patrick if you invite Hijab
00:07:56.700 The focal point of the discussion
00:07:58.840 At hand should be
00:07:59.880 Tawheed
00:08:00.420 We are proud of our religion
00:08:01.860 We listen
00:08:03.000 We don't sugar coat
00:08:03.880 We don't follow the
00:08:04.720 Scriptures under the bus
00:08:05.780 We don't follow
00:08:06.500 Prophets under the bus
00:08:07.920 To us it's Tawheed
00:08:09.500 It's not fables
00:08:09.960 We wouldn't call our books fables
00:08:11.980 Never
00:08:13.180 And guess what
00:08:14.220 The fact that we are like that
00:08:16.660 This is why people
00:08:17.840 Are flocking to Islam
00:08:18.640 Alhamdulillah
00:08:19.120 Okay
00:08:19.680 And that's what we're going to say
00:08:20.860 From Muhammad Hijab
00:08:22.340 Ali Dawah
00:08:22.920 To Rashid Hamam
00:08:23.820 InshaAllah
00:08:24.560 Assalamualaikum
00:08:25.720 Wa Rahmatullahi
00:08:26.400 Wa Barakat