Ali Dawah - December 31, 2024
EX MUSLIM FINALLY CONVINCED IN MOSQUE？ - PART 2
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Jummah Kutbahaykah is the answer to the question, "Why did I leave Islam?". In this podcast, we talk about why I left Islam and how I came back to it.
Transcript
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That brother randomly goes, I'll answer his question.
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I'm pretty sure you heard me and my friends talking.
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But you do the same thing with your atheist friend
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I'm working with one of my brothers and sisters,
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today you're going to be short of Islam inshaAllah.
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We don't have the belief in the absolute free will.
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That means he has to judge us and give tests to us...
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We will never test you with something that you cannot burden.
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Meaning he cannot test you with something that you're like...
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Allah says everyone will be tested in a specific way.
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Then you can still believe in determinism as well.
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If I had a son and he was running towards the fire...
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And the closest thing I could do to stop him...
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Is he going to think my dad is a good father or a bad father?
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Because of God's attributes it necessitates that.
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Is God Almighty applying that in this world by the Sharia and secondly in the hereafter?
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Because someone like King Leopold II killed 10 million Congolese.
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When they enter the fire, we will replace their skin to taste the punishment again.
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We can only apply ultimate justice in the hereafter.
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In Palestine, for example, the people in Palestine,
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In an atheistic world view, it's just like, yeah.
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And you've accepted that this independent being
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But you do the same thing with your atheist friend.
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Come and be on a firm ground that we are talking about.
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Now, when you say to me, dependent on something dependent,
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That's why we say it has to have a starting point.
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So that's independent being, based on your logic.
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You bring anyone, you name it, they cannot debunk this.
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So that's why we say, since this universe exists,
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it must have someone or a being that created it.
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And it should have, since it's a being, it's a thing.
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Because if it doesn't have any characteristics, it's nothing.
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And it has a will, because since it has knowledge,
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We name it as Muslim, we say Allah means the one God.
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And it has to be one, adding to this, by the way.
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Yeah, because you can't have two necessary beings.
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I want to delve deeper into free will, if you'd like.
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which has already been debunked with you, finished.
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Since this higher being is all-knowing, has independent will,
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since there are things which are happening on Earth,
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we born in a client, even animals born in a client,
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If you bring either two monkeys, if you give one fruit here
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and two fruits there, then the monkey will throw it
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because they feel it being unjust, being treated unjust.
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Since we're talking about the absolute higher being,
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the creator of this universe, it should be justice.
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Part of his characteristics, as a necessity being,
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that it has to have a free, it should be justice.
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Since it's justice, he will judge us based on what?
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So someone will say, oh, you know, I'm a criminal.
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Best to know, say, you determine me to be like that.
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And that's why the group of, they call it al-Jabriyyah.
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And there is another type of deviant group called Qadriyyah,
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Those ones who say we have no free will, we say no.
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How Allah will punish us if we don't have free will?
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And at the same time, we say, we don't have an absolute free will.
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Actually, again, that's not part of the Qadr of Allah Azza wa Jal.
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We say everything was decreed by Allah Azza wa Jal.
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Now, at the point when you are deciding to do the right and the wrong things,
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when you choose to do the right thing, yeah, then God will praise you.
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And God, you deserve to give you a reward and you deserve to go to paradise.
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If you choose to do the wrong thing, if you choose to harm others,
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if you choose to do things, you cannot get away.
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Even if you get away from this world, like some people who go to like,
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what's his name, Ginkis Khan, he killed millions of people and he died.
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And even he was told, the more he sleep with women that he will have more life, et cetera.
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So he was thinking, doing all these things to extend his life, eventually he died.
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He got away from the punishment, from killing millions of people.
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He burned city, whole cities, totally, killed everyone there.
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Can you imagine, have you seen the video that shows-
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Okay, if he didn't receive Islam, this is why justice comes in.
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We believe that if someone didn't hear the message of Islam, he will be tested on the day of judgment.
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Someone who hasn't reached the age of puberty, somebody who is insane-
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Because for justice, God is going to give them a unique test-
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So everybody who didn't receive Islam in the correct way will be judged-
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Yes, so you might have a Christian and atheist, a Hindu and Muslim-
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In a specific way, Allah will come to them, they won't see Allah, Allah will come to them and bring the hellfire.
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It will look like hellfire. But rather, it is paradise. God Almighty will say, jump in.
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It's paradise. It's a test because you're going to see fire.
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So now this is a matter of, am I going to trust what's being said to me and put my tawakul-
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The ones who jump will see it as paradise, the ones who don't will end up in hellfire. Why?
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Because we went through a test in this life where we had to have trust in God when we did not see Him.
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How is it fair that somebody, a Hindu who hasn't heard about Islam, goes straight into paradise?
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And his test is, Allah will tell him, I am your Lord.
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That's the fire, jump in, but rather you find this paradise.
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If you believe in His- because you have to believe in His word.
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If you believe in His word, you show His loyalty and tawheed in Him.
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When Allah told him to bow down to Adam, he said no, he fell into disbelief.
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We worship Allah because of who He is, not because of what He does for us.
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Would you be very careful how you approach him?
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Okay, would you say to Ronaldo, can I take a picture with you?
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Extra thing, if he said to you, listen, let's go and eat together.
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But even if you did not get a picture, because of who he is, is the respect you show him.
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Does Ronaldo have these white cells in your body that help you recover when you're ill?
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That's only if you believe Allah actually gave it to you, right?
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But for me, in my world for right now, I don't-
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But it does, because you affirm the necessary being.
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Those letters have switch buttons on and off that make your heart-
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You know, every single DNA has the same three billion letters.
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It's only the gene, the letters that it turns off and on that makes your heart your heart,
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your liver your liver, your kidney your kidney.
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If there's information in the DNA, it requires intelligence.
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So what I'm saying is, the one who makes your heart beat, the one who makes you breathe,
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the one who gives you this food and the water that you drink.
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All of these things that God has created in you, he deserves to be worshipped.
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He deserves to be worshipped because of who he is.
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That is who the creator of the heavens and earth is.
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We should worship him the moment we're born till we die.
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So once you acknowledge the respect you give Ronaldo,
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there is no comparison between Ronaldo and Allah.
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Allah is the creator of the heavens and the earth.
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I think it's also because your points I've heard it before.
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It's because I think I went from a point of accepting what you say
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That it makes it even more hard for me to accept what you say now
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When you wake up in the morning, you say I'm in Pluto.
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You use your logical, rational faculties when it comes to your day-to-day basis.
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Why is it when it comes to logical things pertaining to God,
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Today, you logically knew you had to be somewhere in 30 minutes.
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You knew you had to go and do that and come back here.
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Why is it when it comes to the most logical thing that God exists, you're like, I don't
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I'm not saying this to, you know, so you can say, wow, Ali is such an amazing orator.
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Tell me something logically against it, I'll accept it.
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Come and say, Ali, no, your premise is wrong because of this.
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Whether you're a friend, cosmic skeptic, I don't care who the hell it is.
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Because logic will, I don't care who's a professor.
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I spoke with the people who are physicists, whatever.
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What is it that's led to you to say, okay, Islam cannot be the truth.
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Before, not now, because now you accept the necessary being.
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So when I was converted, this is not an answer to your question, but it's about what you said.
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So when I was converted, I used to pray here as well on the Fridays.
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And every time I prayed, for about maybe six months, I prayed sometimes, like once a day, maybe, max.
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Even though I already converted, I've heard all the... like so much information.
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And I accepted what you said in your video back then about...
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And about looking in your fridge and there's a rabbit in it.
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It's connected to logic, but it's not just based on logic.
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Like every time I went down, I said, why am I doing this?
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And that's why right now when I'm with you and I try to logically accept it.
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Maybe they were just only talking about logical arguments and things like this.
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I'm not always in favor of the logical arguments.
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Part of our dawah is to make the people to love their fiatra as well.
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We love Allah more than our father, our mother, everyone.
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Then Allah and his messenger will be more dear to him, more beloved to him than his father,
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than his mother, than his children, than the people of the world.
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He repeated this to him, even more than your son.
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And then he thought about it and he said I love you, I love Allah and his messenger more
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So the point is that of course we should have to have this relation of love between us and
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today told you what percentage on earth that allah would send a brother on this isolated place i don't
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know where it is then he booked us in the middle of nowhere the hotel yeah and allah brought this
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brother there to us and i said it's a dua because we know we believe in allah and we see this
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we see it on a daily basis it's not just only one incident or two incidents we see it we see
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allah saved us from calamities from catastrophe we see us allah has saved us we see this we see
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this with our eyes we see we we feel it we feel his presence and everything around us yeah it's not
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just only because we logically we know about him it's about actually we feel everything that happens
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we saw the mercy of allah as though i know the most important thing you see how allah is merciful
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and how we love allah just look when you get married in the future and then you'll see how
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much your wife cares about her children because you didn't appreciate your mother as much as you see
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when you see yourself how your wife treating your children at that point you will realize how much
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your mother's pain and everything of course you didn't see this and you see that in the night so
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we think about it why this woman will will will take that will bear the pain in pregnancy will take the
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pen someone thinking about it someone put her the pain that the women some women they barely die
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while they're giving birth can imagine someone put them into nearly death and as soon as they
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when they when they go back to their conscience the first thing they want to do to hug that child
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yeah it doesn't make sense in any one anything even for us as men i think about it i say for
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example if i have for example appendix or something the first thing to get rid of it
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the woman will hug will have their child not just that they will defend them with their lives
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and i see them sometimes when i say in the night sometimes yeah i sometimes you know sometimes i
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sleep because the in the beginning the child they they don't sleep in the night and i have only my
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four hours and sometimes i go sleep somewhere else yeah and i see her like subhanallah yeah in the night
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she would wake up like as soon as that baby cry she would wake up just to bless the child to change
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the child and then she is already exhausted which is two days ago she give birth to the child
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and yet she is in pain she is in all of these things and then she will wake up to do this forward
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what put in her heart to love this this creature yeah and on top of this this guy who's gonna grow up like
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my son is gonna be so defined he's gonna cause their problem she had to call me like even from
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from there from britain or something they said please deal with him yeah and i remember the time
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that she was dealing with with with him and when she was in the end of his life and then look at just
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only think about it and say why how allah put mercy in her heart that means there is in her nature
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something that allah planted in her to have that mercy to have that kindness to have that emotion
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towards the child to protect that child to care about that child just this and allah is more merciful
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than him upon us and the prophet said he gave this example he saw a woman you know during the battlefield
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and that woman was she was scared she was looking around and then she saw that when she heard
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her child she hugged that child you know in the middle of the wall and we know the people fighting
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each other and then she was hugging him protecting him and her child and then the prophet said he said
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do you see this woman will throw her child in the fire would she do that they said no she would
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never do it because she would she literally put her life in danger to protect her child but then he said
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allah is more merciful upon us then this woman towards her child if you think about this then
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you will know the measure of allah so it's not just about logical argument yeah yeah logic you know
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it's it's not about yeah yeah i have i have focused on that as well yeah and i don't think that's the
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issue with you it's not no no i mean i have also focused on the this what you what you just said about
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about um how do you say alhamdulillah and what like like praise yeah like thankfulness because
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what he gave us i focused on it as well but it was not sufficient why why was it not sufficient
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because the only way it's not sufficient is if you truly understand what allah does for you
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it's impossible for you to say it's insufficient let me give you an example yeah if i gave you five
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thousand pounds today and i said to you every day i'm going to send five thousand pounds to your account
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would you be grateful to me yeah okay what if i said to you i have a mansion five bedroom house
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yeah but i want you to live in it yeah but that but this is again this is logic logically coming to
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that point not logically it's also more in the sense of what allah does because you said i've done
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the sense of gratitude but it didn't it wasn't enough how could it not be enough if it if it follows
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like what i'm saying is yeah how could one not be grateful if i did a favor for you you'd be
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grateful am i right or wrong yeah i would be okay would you not would you not have that what are you
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what are you focusing that that i didn't that i didn't really fully believe no i'm not saying that
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because i feel like that's then the no no no that was the thing no no i'm not making a judgment if
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you fully believe that i don't know that it can be or cannot be what i'm saying is if i do you a
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favor would you not have some kind of an emotional attachment to me yeah i would okay good yeah yeah
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so it's not just logical it's not like okay he did something for me but it's more of an emotional
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attachment where it's like man he didn't have to do that i mean he's such a good person you will say that
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yeah you will not would you think i'm a bad person if i said to you look i want to give you five
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thousand the first thing you say is what does he want from me okay if i say to you i don't want nothing
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from you just take it yeah would you not think okay he's a good man yeah okay so if i come and
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say to you listen i'm going to say five thousand send five thousand pounds to your account every week
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yeah and then if i gave you a car and if i gave you a house would you not say why is this man doing
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this for me would you not say that you don't come to me one day and say ali like like i would
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appreciate thank you why are you doing this for me if i say to you nothing i just i just want goodness
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for you would you not increase in love as a brother to me i feel like that's a very personal
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point i don't know if i no personally put yourself yeah yeah well i don't even know if i experience
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love at all okay like for anybody i swear that's fine that's fine but what i'm saying is no i don't
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i don't know for sure he expressed enough for anybody what i'm saying is this have you got your
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parents in your life yeah both mom and dad yeah okay uh how's your relationship with them
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fairly good okay it's like i cannot complain compared to other people yeah it's good all right
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so so if you understand because sometimes people don't know what the definition they think that
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because they don't know what it is they think they don't have it but they do but they just yeah
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of course my point my point is this bro is that if i did all of those stuff for you you'd be grateful
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to me if i called you if i said listen adam i need your help you would help you come bro you
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said listen what do you need yeah yeah exactly of course i would help you yeah good so what i'm
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saying is that that thing that i've done for you would be enough yeah yeah yeah so how is what if i
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said to you i'm going to give you 10 million pounds but tomorrow you're not going to wake up would
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you take it no why not that means your life is more valuable than 10 million pounds yeah who gives you
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that life i don't know for sure and i think that's and i think it's based on that i didn't know for
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sure back then as well okay based on our logical argument is allah that gives our life meaning
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10 million pounds is not enough for me to ask you for your life not a billion pounds if i said to
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you i'll give you the entire earth it's not enough which means the one who's giving you life you should
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be far greater to him than any money that i give you yeah it has to follow yeah of course 5 000 pounds
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and you're telling me yeah thank you i love you brother thank you very much etc i'll give you a house
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allah has given you a life that you will not replace if i said to you i'll give you one trillion pounds
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but tomorrow you're going to die you say i don't want it meaning the life that you handle is more
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precious who is giving you that life allah if allah has given you this life he deserves worship
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one billion euros or whatever but you know you will lose your eyes tomorrow
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no i won't take it exactly so meaning even not just life even if you're still alive yeah that's it
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by losing that you're losing your eyes you'll not accept you still god has given you the eyes to
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see ability to look yeah ability to hear and you can never be and you can never repay for that by
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the way just so but then then i ask why when i was when i was uh praying and i converted yeah i feel
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like three years yeah three years of daily researching is kind of enough to yeah okay no it's not
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why it's not enough can you finish your sentence why what but then why didn't i believe i didn't
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no no we know you didn't believe no i didn't believe or at least i didn't feel it i didn't feel
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okay you feel like you didn't believe i feel i feel like i didn't believe even though i accepted the
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logic okay good and that's why i feel like okay so so what it means is look it can be like allah says
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in the quran to the bedouins he says they said we have believed they said don't say you've believed say
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you have submitted iman is a whole different thing i believe you submitted i thought logically
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makes sense yep okay one god yeah perfect but iman is something that you work for did you need to
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make dua did you used to pray to god did you speak to god yeah what would you ask if you don't mind me
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asking is there anything specific you would ask to give me certainty certainty to give me uh more
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strength more belief okay that kind of stuff okay all right what i would say is personally bro i would
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say that's the lacking part i think logically bro you logically i think logically makes sense about
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god existing there's ample of evidence i think you of course i will have to find it out myself
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more yeah it is it is but i would say bro i would read on the concepts that you yeah you can look i've
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spoken about that there's like to me i have no doubt about i don't think anybody would rebuke that what
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i'm saying is though i think the spiritual aspect is missing here it's because it's everything's become
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too logical and in islam it's like like not everything's logic of course the aspect but we believe iman
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look let me tell you something i can bring you uncles full-blown old uncle somali or kurdish or
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bengali uncles i promise you nobody can sway their faith if an atheist came and said a big bang
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listen yeah shut up man i don't know what you're talking about you crazy man yallah
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and this shows me this is what i noticed you know some people hidayah is from allah it's not a logical
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thing you have these elderly people you can bring them all the things you know what it shows you
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that genuinely sometimes we need to question our heart when the heart is has diseases we need to
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work on that once we get rid of those things and whatever other factors there is allah will give
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you guidance let me tell you something even if somebody comes and gives you something like you
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said to me yeah like i'm in a place where i'm certain in faith in my faith why because i have
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logical reasons and i believe inshallah i have some kind of faith so when someone comes to me with
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this i'll say you know what majority of the religion makes sense to me this little but okay i'm going to
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look into i'm not going to sway myself because you get it so what i'm saying is i think that aspect
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is missing and i think internally look and think what can it be and have that communication because
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allah says in the quran i respond to the quran that calls upon me he doesn't say the muslim
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he says the quran that calls upon me i think today you should go home and you forgot how to pray
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we'll give you a where's our map gone i have a map at home one of these not one of oh this is the
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the teaching mat okay not these much brother this is a special mat there we go so this is from us
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if you return back to islam inshallah but i would say bro turn to allah look you need to treat allah
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like you know like the salaf that is it's so hard to do that if you look it's not don't make your heart
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for yourself something that's easy is it hard for you to go home today and say allah if you are there
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i'm looking for guidance guide me is it hard no no sincerely sincerely sincerely he doesn't have
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sincerity no no no no because he said the idea is the point i think he does what he does i'll tell
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you something and i know because i think yeah when you are skeptic about it when you're calling someone
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you will never get the answer the idea is literally you're sincere you know you from your heart you're
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asking the guidance there is a man he can do that there is there is a scholar actually he was
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making logical arguments about islam and things like this in the past yeah and he made like 100
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reasons 100 reasons debunking the people who disbelieve in god yeah made 100 you know reasons
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well one of the reasons that makes you know to believe in god about about you know certainty to
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believe in god yeah and he passed by nasa poor which is nice of all you know that nowadays in
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of pakistan this area yeah and then so an old woman she was in the in the industry they said come
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come there this is color such and such he's coming in the town i said why what's the what's the famous
00:42:41.120
and he said he found he is the one who authored the book that contains 100 reasons yeah to believe
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in god then this old lady what she said so allah if he didn't have 100 doubts i was believing in god
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he would not author a book about believing in god in 100 ism yeah probably and he left that and he said
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this statement he said that day he literally burned his book and he said oh allah give me a faith like
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the faith of the elderly women in my support not this way i want like this i want to believe like this
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because the point is we could we could keep bringing you logical arguments things that's not a logical thing
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but at the end of the day at the end of the day we cannot penetrate your heart we cannot open your
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heart we cannot make you to be sincere in what you say yeah so that's what we're saying to you
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if you are if allah knows sincerity in you allah will guide you true if allah knows i will tell you
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something and that's how it is if allah knows allah says in the quran allah when we see the quran
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meaning the one who struggle in our paths we will guard them our way and we will not guide the wrongdoers
00:43:48.640
and allah said allah will never guide them meaning so if allah knows you have sincerity in your heart
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yeah you could convince i'm sincere you know yourself it's not about you know pretending but
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allah knows what's in your heart so if you are sincere to allah asking allah sincerely
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to guide you to open your heart then allah do that look i would say believe you on that if not
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i will do that and i think you've got nothing to lose bro look if you're sincere like i did this
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before i came to islam i said look i know there's a high power i said if you are there
00:44:18.800
show me which is a religion christianity islam judaism i don't care whichever one it is
00:44:23.280
yeah you are sincere i'm sure you are it's just you're a bit like i don't know but you know
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there's a higher power there in the six days ask just say if you are there please guide me bro if
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you're sincere you've got nothing to lose if you do that now the only thing is allah will send you
00:44:39.200
signs it's upon you to take them and reject them now that is on you sure i'll i'll do tonight
00:44:44.000
do it do it i'll ask them and i know you would ask about the signs i would say to you yeah that
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you come in here it's been emotional sorry you come in here today yes you see it as a sign you
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mean yeah what's more than this bro forget that forget that are you telling me it's a coincidence
00:44:59.680
that brother randomly goes i'll answer his question okay no no no where is he is he here or no no no
00:45:06.080
listen but here i'm pretty sure you heard me and me and my friends listen listen no but no but
00:45:11.600
you think that there is something there's something further than this
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how did we come here i met him randomly i don't know him i never met him in my life yeah
00:45:22.000
there's so much there's so much things of course something is going to happen like that
00:45:24.720
so of course no i met him randomly in the height park last week on sunday and he said to me i'm from
00:45:30.960
i'm from amsterdam i said we are planning to go to holland to netherlands we're going to rotterdam and
00:45:38.800
then we're planning to go to amsterdam we didn't arrange with the brother from amsterdam yet and then he
00:45:43.360
said to me he's gonna arrange it and he was after and not just that he was planning to arrange where
00:45:47.840
in amsterdam and he didn't he couldn't get hold of them and then he said that our local muslim here
00:45:55.280
they can arrange it here so he arranged it here not in amsterdam not in the city yeah and we came
00:46:00.880
but if it was in amsterdam there would be probably someone that converted or has been converted we don't
00:46:06.320
know also together maybe maybe no no the issue is this the fact that it wasn't it was here that brother
00:46:12.560
so you didn't even speak he didn't even you don't know him no but you heard me talking with no problem
00:46:16.640
still the fact that he we this could have ended with okay we have to go the fact that it ended
00:46:20.960
with anything that's the thing okay now the problem just because it ended like this doesn't mean perfect
00:46:24.880
now this is this is this it depends on how you see it if you have this is the problem now now
00:46:30.240
you're gonna say i don't have it in my heart or no no no i don't believe in it that's why the fact
00:46:34.080
that what you're doing is the fact that you're looking at things and instead of seeing there could be
00:46:39.760
a chance that actually there could be a chance it's no but you don't sure you are more on the other
00:46:43.840
side of no but other factors that it could have been like because i've been believing that for
00:46:46.880
three years of course that's the problem you see what i'm saying you have built a habit in your head
00:46:51.680
that it's it's as if if we was to if the angels were to descend you would say this is just some
00:46:56.480
kind of illusion it's come to the point where it's like if we were to say to god is going to
00:47:01.600
speak to you and say i am god you say now that's just some sound it's become to the point where
00:47:05.680
it's as if you're like i don't want to believe like if you brought me the angels and the hereafter
00:47:09.760
we went on a trip and we saw the hell and heaven yeah you say bro it's vr visual reality
00:47:14.640
do you know what i'm trying to say so you need to work on that you need to think to yourself
00:47:17.840
why am i always just to find it too no it can be other possibility other possibility can it be god
00:47:22.080
no so it's all possibilities but cannot be assigned it's why cannot the sign be the option do you get it
00:47:27.200
no because i don't believe in islam and that's why i don't see it as an option that's fine but what i'm
00:47:32.320
saying is why is it that all other possibilities but not god why cannot be god why cannot be that the one
00:47:38.320
because i don't believe what do you mean but we logically showed you the necessary being you
00:47:41.840
accepted necessary being you accepted attributes you've really accepted that no but i i've told
00:47:45.520
you the complicated thing with that that's the problem you didn't tell you did not tell me
00:47:48.720
no sheikh one said adam no not only that because because one argument you made against the argument
00:47:55.040
we don't have to discuss that because there are let's say i have a conversation with one of these
00:47:59.600
men here okay and they are not as educated as you are yes so i talk with them and somehow i convince
00:48:04.640
them yeah okay yeah how like if i if i convince him yeah that doesn't mean that he's wrong
00:48:12.480
and because because you have a certain type of argument where i just know you have so much more
00:48:17.360
knowledge than i am and that's very nice but something coming from nothing no but wait wait
00:48:22.400
does you need to be a smart person to say yes or no to that but no because when i was with my friend
00:48:27.680
that was logical how he said it so does he believe that something would come from nothing he's out
00:48:31.360
no no i don't exactly know what he said but he has just just because no he doesn't have a yes or
00:48:37.360
no answer that's why i can't just embrace it and tell it to you yeah it's more difficult than that
00:48:42.400
it's not just point blank i i i understand so that's the hard the thing is hard part you can't
00:48:46.480
just accept it like that no i understand i have to read into the points i have to check both sides
00:48:51.200
i can't just accept just because you made a good argument that that you're totally correct
00:48:56.960
i didn't make a good argument i made a logical argument and you said nothing to rebut it
00:49:02.640
yeah no no because i can make a logical argument to him wait wait no no he's correct you can you
00:49:09.360
can make a logical argument that he doesn't know and that he believes me and it still is not a
00:49:13.760
logical argument but it's a good argument yeah so that could be for you as well we don't know but
00:49:18.160
you cannot ever tell him you cannot ever convince him or he can convince you that something can come
00:49:21.920
from nothing you don't need to be a smart guy for that can something come from nothing so many people
00:49:26.160
that something cannot come from nothing as well of course one one plus one equals two
00:49:30.560
zero doesn't equal one thank you so you know that nothing from nothing nothing comes yeah
00:49:35.520
zero do you believe something can come from nothing no good so look anyone will agree in the park in the
00:49:41.360
whole world you go they will say to you yeah from nothing nothing comes but it's not a matter of
00:49:45.040
being smart it's illogical well i i've never seen something that comes from thank you yeah that's why
00:49:49.280
it's logical so imagine if someone came and said no no i believe something comes from nothing does that
00:49:53.680
mean now because you made a smart argument he doesn't know if you went to somebody else no
00:49:57.280
nothing well nothing comes well my friend he told me something else you said but why do you
00:50:03.040
treat this friend like a prophet you keep talking to me like like you treat this friend like he's a
00:50:07.280
prophet bro bring him to me i promise you i promise you i don't want i don't want to sound
00:50:12.000
arrogant yeah i promise you he will have nothing to say i promise you i will stay here an extra day
00:50:17.040
bring him to my face okay if i speak to him and i debate him and he cannot answer would you change
00:50:21.120
your mind or would you say he asked him we have to go to cosmic skeptic now we we sure surely have to
00:50:26.720
go go to cosmic skeptic but if no no but wait well i'm gonna win if if you convince him yeah if i
00:50:31.840
convince him then i need to go to cosmic skeptic no no then then i will say i will actually take it
00:50:37.040
seriously i will i will go and uh research islam again okay no problem if i speak to him and if i can
00:50:42.240
debunk him i already called him he can no no he doesn't want to meet me no no he's not able to
00:50:47.360
no no i will stay an extra day you stay an extra day yes i ask him okay ask him i will come to him
00:50:52.800
anywhere if i debate him yeah and logically it doesn't follow and he makes no sense yeah you
00:50:57.760
would look into islam of course okay i'm staying an extra day yes i will i'm staying an extra day let
00:51:01.360
me know when i'm gonna change my ticket yes give me you got my number yeah let me know when i'll come
00:51:05.680
from rotterdam i was gonna go somewhere else i'm okay don't change it yes i i ask him i'll wait for you
00:51:09.760
i'll wait for you yeah but he no you don't even have to you can he has work in the morning and
00:51:14.480
then he's he would be able he said if he if he would you arrange it uh 24. where's he from is he
00:51:20.960
dutch yeah he's speak english yeah perfect he's good that's what i mean but don't want to say oh my
00:51:25.600
english no no no of course of course yeah perfect yeah thank you adam it was a pleasure man thank you
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too thank you no harsh feelings no no no no thank you for the food and everything no no it's a pleasure