Ali Dawah - EX MUSLIM FINALLY CONVINCED IN MOSQUE？ - PART 2

00:00:00.000 Sorry?

00:00:01.000 You coming here today?

00:00:02.000 Yes.

00:00:03.000 You see it as a sign, you mean?

00:00:05.000 Yeah, a hundred percent.

00:00:06.000 What's more than this?

00:00:07.000 Bro, forget that, forget that, Shaykh. 0.98

00:00:08.000 Are you telling me it's a coincidence?

00:00:10.000 That brother randomly goes, I'll answer his question.

00:00:12.000 No, no, no, no.

00:00:14.000 Where is he? Is he here or no?

00:00:15.000 No, no, no.

00:00:16.000 Listen, listen.

00:00:17.000 I'm pretty sure you heard me and my friends talking.

00:00:19.000 Listen, listen.

00:00:20.000 No, but the point.

00:00:21.000 Ali Ali Ali.

00:00:22.000 There's something further than this.

00:00:25.000 How did we come here?

00:00:27.000 I think today you should go home and

00:00:29.000 and you forgot how to pray.

00:00:31.000 We'll give you a...

00:00:32.000 Where's our map gone?

00:00:33.000 I have a map at home.

00:00:34.000 One of these?

00:00:35.000 Ah, brother.

00:00:36.000 Oh, this is the teaching map, huh?

00:00:38.000 Ah, okay.

00:00:39.000 Not these maps, brother.

00:00:41.000 This is a special map.

00:00:42.000 There we go.

00:00:43.000 So, this is from us.

00:00:44.000 Thank you.

00:00:45.000 But you do the same thing with your atheist friend

00:00:46.000 when he comes and says to you,

00:00:47.000 no, no, no, there cannot be a god.

00:00:48.000 You say, it makes sense now,

00:00:50.000 but when I leave, it might not make sense.

00:00:52.000 Do you say that to him?

00:00:53.000 No, but I used to say it to him, yes.

00:00:55.000 Good.

00:00:56.000 No, but I accept that I'm biased.

00:00:57.000 Is it important to him though?

00:00:58.000 It's important to who?

00:00:59.000 To Allah.

00:01:00.000 What? What's important to Allah?

00:01:01.000 That you listen to him?

00:01:02.000 No, because of who he is.

00:01:04.000 Because of...

00:01:05.000 No, no, no.

00:01:06.000 No, Allah doesn't need us. 0.98

00:01:08.000 It's because of who he is.

00:01:10.000 We worship Allah because of who he is,

00:01:11.000 not because of what he does for us.

00:01:13.000 You know, name me someone famous.

00:01:15.000 Ronaldo?

00:01:16.000 Okay.

00:01:17.000 If you see Ronaldo, would you get excited?

00:01:20.000 This is not an answer to your question,

00:01:21.000 but it's about what you said.

00:01:23.000 So when I was converted,

00:01:25.000 I used to pray here as well on the Fridays.

00:01:27.000 Inshallah, you're going to pray again.

00:01:28.000 Who knows?

00:01:29.000 Maybe.

00:01:30.000 Inshallah.

00:01:31.000 Inshallah.

00:01:32.000 And every time I prayed,

00:01:34.000 for about maybe six months,

00:01:36.000 I prayed sometimes,

00:01:38.000 like once a day maybe, max.

00:01:41.000 Every time I prayed, there was just...

00:01:44.000 I think the spiritual aspect is missing here.

00:01:46.000 It's because everything's become too logical.

00:01:48.000 And in Islam, it's like, 0.69

00:01:50.000 not everything's logic.

00:01:51.000 Of course it's an aspect,

00:01:52.000 but we believe iman.

00:01:54.000 Let me tell you something,

00:01:55.000 I can bring you uncles,

00:01:56.000 full-blown old uncles,

00:01:57.000 Somali or Kurdish or Bengali uncles.

00:01:59.000 I promise you,

00:02:00.000 nobody can sway their faith.

00:02:02.000 If an atheist came and said, 0.70

00:02:03.000 Big Bang, let's say, 1.00

00:02:04.000 yeah, shut up, man. 0.99

00:02:05.000 I don't know what you're talking about, 1.00

00:02:06.000 you crazy man. 1.00

00:02:07.000 And this shows me, 1.00

00:02:11.000 this is what I noticed,

00:02:12.000 you know some people,

00:02:13.000 Hidayah is from Allah,

00:02:15.000 it's not a logical thing.

00:02:19.000 Brothers and sisters,

00:02:20.000 it is the winter season in the UK.

00:02:21.000 Today in my house,

00:02:22.000 my boiler broke,

00:02:23.000 and the house was freezing cold.

00:02:25.000 My kids are wearing jackets,

00:02:26.000 I'm trying to find heating,

00:02:27.000 and as a father,

00:02:28.000 I'm trying to make sure my kids,

00:02:29.000 my wife are warm.

00:02:30.000 Imagine the people around the world.

00:02:32.000 I'm working with one of my brothers and sisters,

00:02:33.000 100% donation policy charity,

00:02:36.000 who are helping Syria,

00:02:37.000 Lebanon,

00:02:38.000 and Afghanistan,

00:02:39.000 people who are freezing to death,

00:02:40.000 intense brothers and sisters.

00:02:41.000 Donate wherever you can,

00:02:42.000 because today's experience with me,

00:02:44.000 showed me subhanAllah

00:02:45.000 how vulnerable we are,

00:02:46.000 and just made me remember those people

00:02:48.000 who are in need.

00:02:49.000 Whatever you donate guys,

00:02:50.000 even if it is one pound,

00:02:51.000 help those people in those countries.

00:02:54.000 Shoros,

00:02:55.000 today you're going to be short of Islam inshaAllah.

00:02:57.000 We will see,

00:02:58.000 we will see.

00:02:59.000 InshaAllah.

00:03:00.000 By the way,

00:03:01.000 if you are,

00:03:02.000 inshaAllah,

00:03:03.000 if you are convinced with our answer,

00:03:05.000 if you find the truth,

00:03:06.000 you will accept to be Muslim again.

00:03:08.000 Correct?

00:03:09.000 Yes.

00:03:10.000 I've done before,

00:03:11.000 so I think,

00:03:12.000 yeah.

00:03:13.000 What's the main reason you left Islam?

00:03:14.000 I don't think it's a logical reason though.

00:03:16.000 Why I went for Islam? 0.98

00:03:17.000 No, no.

00:03:18.000 Why did you leave Islam?

00:03:19.000 What's the main...

00:03:20.000 No, it's not a logical reason.

00:03:21.000 It's not.

00:03:22.000 It was a process of slowly.

00:03:23.000 Okay, what?

00:03:24.000 What was it?

00:03:25.000 There has to be some,

00:03:26.000 because I don't think it's logical,

00:03:27.000 because we've discussed the logical thing.

00:03:28.000 No, I think...

00:03:29.000 You're intelligent.

00:03:30.000 I don't believe in free will.

00:03:31.000 I still don't.

00:03:32.000 No, no.

00:03:33.000 Okay, but what's...

00:03:34.000 We don't have the...

00:03:35.000 We don't have the belief in the absolute free will.

00:03:37.000 Well, I chose...

00:03:39.000 No, I don't choose to believe it.

00:03:40.000 I believe it.

00:03:41.000 Did you choose to think like this?

00:03:43.000 But that's not free will.

00:03:44.000 That's determinants.

00:03:45.000 Wait, wait.

00:03:46.000 But...

00:03:47.000 Are you...

00:03:48.000 But now we're going...

00:03:49.000 Listen, you confuse yourself now.

00:03:50.000 You just contradict yourself now.

00:03:51.000 How?

00:03:52.000 You said now,

00:03:53.000 I believe this,

00:03:54.000 and then you said...

00:03:55.000 You choose to believe this.

00:03:56.000 No, no.

00:03:57.000 I said I don't choose to believe it.

00:03:58.000 I believe it.

00:03:59.000 Oh, okay.

00:04:00.000 So that's the...

00:04:01.000 So you don't believe in free will?

00:04:02.000 No, I don't.

00:04:03.000 I don't, no.

00:04:04.000 Yeah, it's fine.

00:04:05.000 So you don't believe in...

00:04:06.000 You don't believe in free will.

00:04:07.000 You believe in...

00:04:08.000 Determinism.

00:04:09.000 I don't believe...

00:04:10.000 Yeah, I don't believe in free will.

00:04:11.000 I believe in determinism.

00:04:12.000 Okay, but if we go back to...

00:04:13.000 Necessary being his attributes...

00:04:15.000 He has to be the all just.

00:04:17.000 He has to be.

00:04:18.000 It's a necessity.

00:04:20.000 That's what he says...

00:04:21.000 His attributes are necessities as well, yeah?

00:04:23.000 Necessary.

00:04:24.000 So meaning...

00:04:25.000 He has to be the all just.

00:04:26.000 Because if there is hell fire and heaven...

00:04:29.000 That means he has to judge us and give tests to us...

00:04:32.000 In such a fair way.

00:04:33.000 That's what Allah says in the Quran...

00:04:34.000 We will never test you with something that you cannot burden.

00:04:38.000 Meaning...

00:04:39.000 That...

00:04:40.000 That's his justice.

00:04:41.000 Meaning he cannot test you with something that you're like...

00:04:44.000 I cannot deal with this...

00:04:45.000 And it's gonna cause you to break.

00:04:46.000 No.

00:04:47.000 Allah says everyone will be tested in a specific way.

00:04:50.000 So therefore...

00:04:51.000 He has to be just.

00:04:52.000 And only justice can apply...

00:04:54.000 Is number one...

00:04:55.000 By his attribute...

00:04:56.000 He has to be the all knowing.

00:04:57.000 Which is...

00:04:58.000 He knows Qadr.

00:04:59.000 Number two...

00:05:00.000 He has to give you free will.

00:05:01.000 If he's not giving you free will...

00:05:02.000 I'm a puppet.

00:05:03.000 I'm a robot.

00:05:04.000 No.

00:05:05.000 I have free will.

00:05:06.000 So that's why we say we're compatibilists.

00:05:07.000 Meaning...

00:05:08.000 We believe in Qadr.

00:05:09.000 Predestiny.

00:05:10.000 They don't believe in free will.

00:05:11.000 They work in conjunction with one another.

00:05:13.000 Yeah.

00:05:14.000 Exactly.

00:05:15.000 We're compatibilists.

00:05:16.000 Yeah.

00:05:17.000 I understand that.

00:05:18.000 I think that's perfectly reasonable.

00:05:19.000 If you believe in free will...

00:05:20.000 Then you can still believe in determinism as well.

00:05:21.000 Exactly.

00:05:22.000 So we're saying...

00:05:23.000 By the necessity of...

00:05:24.000 God Almighty existing...

00:05:25.000 By the attributes we've given him...

00:05:26.000 His Allah...

00:05:27.000 And by that...

00:05:28.000 Him being the all just and the all knowing...

00:05:30.000 It necessitates...

00:05:31.000 That you have to have...

00:05:32.000 Because he's all knowing...

00:05:33.000 There has to be Qadr.

00:05:34.000 Destiny.

00:05:35.000 Predestiny that he knows.

00:05:36.000 Number two...

00:05:37.000 Because of his justice...

00:05:38.000 There has to be free will.

00:05:39.000 There has to be free will.

00:05:40.000 So meaning...

00:05:41.000 What we have right now...

00:05:42.000 Is the perfect balance of...

00:05:43.000 God Almighty knowing everything...

00:05:44.000 And we have given free will.

00:05:46.000 There is no oppression on anybody.

00:05:48.000 Does that make sense?

00:05:49.000 That should answer your question because...

00:05:51.000 How?

00:05:52.000 Based on...

00:05:53.000 Based on his...

00:05:54.000 Based on him existing...

00:05:55.000 And being the all just and all knowing...

00:05:57.000 It necessitates...

00:05:59.000 Like we said before...

00:06:00.000 We have DNA.

00:06:01.000 How does he...

00:06:02.000 How does he necessitate...

00:06:03.000 Free will?

00:06:04.000 Because he's a necessary being.

00:06:05.000 He's the...

00:06:06.000 What does the free will have to be...

00:06:07.000 Have to...

00:06:08.000 Because he's the all just and all knowing.

00:06:10.000 So you know...

00:06:11.000 Sometimes people come and say...

00:06:12.000 If God is all loving...

00:06:13.000 We say no...

00:06:14.000 God is not only all loving.

00:06:15.000 That's a Christian concept.

00:06:16.000 If he's all loving...

00:06:17.000 Then why does he do evil?

00:06:18.000 Does it mean he wants to...

00:06:19.000 We don't believe in that.

00:06:20.000 Because we say God is also all wise.

00:06:21.000 Meaning...

00:06:22.000 There are certain things that he does...

00:06:23.000 You don't understand.

00:06:24.000 For example...

00:06:25.000 If my son is...

00:06:26.000 If I had a son and he was running towards the fire...

00:06:28.000 And the closest thing I could do to stop him... 0.98

00:06:30.000 Is by kicking him... 0.94

00:06:31.000 Because I've got long legs. 0.98

00:06:32.000 I kick him and he falls down.

00:06:34.000 He starts crying.

00:06:35.000 The action...

00:06:36.000 Is he going to think my dad is a good father or a bad father?

00:06:40.000 He's going to think you're a bad father.

00:06:41.000 Why? 0.84

00:06:42.000 Because you kicked him in the fire.

00:06:44.000 Okay.

00:06:45.000 Or out of the fire.

00:06:46.000 Away from the fire.

00:06:47.000 But in his head he's like...

00:06:48.000 My dad kicked me. 0.86

00:06:49.000 He doesn't know the fire would burn him.

00:06:51.000 He's seen the action of what I'm doing.

00:06:52.000 But my wisdom necessitates what? 0.90

00:06:54.000 I just saved you by kicking you. 0.88

00:06:56.000 Because that kid will recover. 1.00

00:06:57.000 But you in the fire are going to die.

00:06:59.000 Yeah.

00:07:00.000 So we say God is the most wise.

00:07:01.000 That's why there's certain things he does.

00:07:03.000 For example, the problem of evil.

00:07:04.000 Why do people die?

00:07:05.000 Why there's cancer?

00:07:06.000 Why there's this?

00:07:07.000 Why there's Covid?

00:07:08.000 Why there's earthquakes?

00:07:09.000 Because we say God is the all-knowing.

00:07:10.000 There is a hereafter.

00:07:11.000 And God is not unjust to anybody.

00:07:13.000 Those who died in a cancer or this, that...

00:07:16.000 They will be all judged in a just manner.

00:07:19.000 Because...

00:07:20.000 But that's within the view of Islam.

00:07:23.000 That's not within the...

00:07:25.000 No, not necessarily.

00:07:26.000 Like you haven't proven...

00:07:27.000 Not necessarily.

00:07:28.000 This is taking Islam to a side. 1.00

00:07:29.000 Okay.

00:07:30.000 Because of God's attributes it necessitates that.

00:07:31.000 Let's put Islam to a side. 1.00

00:07:32.000 But it doesn't necessitate free will.

00:07:34.000 Of course it does.

00:07:35.000 I don't see the link.

00:07:36.000 You know, if you said if there is justice.

00:07:37.000 Yeah.

00:07:38.000 If God is all-just.

00:07:39.000 Yeah.

00:07:40.000 All-just in what?

00:07:41.000 But I don't...

00:07:42.000 What do you mean with all-just exactly?

00:07:43.000 All-just meaning there has to be justice.

00:07:45.000 Like you know when you go and somebody...

00:07:46.000 Like for example, somebody killed someone.

00:07:48.000 And you killed him.

00:07:49.000 That's justice served. 0.96

00:07:50.000 He killed man and I for an eye.

00:07:52.000 Justice.

00:07:53.000 That means the most perfect form of...

00:07:55.000 The most...

00:07:56.000 The most perfect form of justice is what?

00:07:59.000 Is God Almighty applying that in this world by the Sharia and secondly in the hereafter? 0.84

00:08:05.000 The ultimate justice in the hereafter.

00:08:07.000 Why?

00:08:08.000 Because someone like King Leopold II killed 10 million Congolese.

00:08:11.000 10 million Congolese. 0.99

00:08:13.000 If we kill him, he only suffice for one. 0.99

00:08:15.000 What about the 999... 1.00

00:08:17.000 9 million, 999,000?

00:08:19.000 What about that many people?

00:08:21.000 How is that?

00:08:22.000 Allah says in the Quran,

00:08:23.000 When they enter the fire, we will replace their skin to taste the punishment again. 0.99

00:08:27.000 We can only apply ultimate justice in the hereafter.

00:08:31.000 Not in this life.

00:08:32.000 So he has to be the most just.

00:08:33.000 Because when you've been wrong and oppressed,

00:08:35.000 Or people in Palestine, 0.68

00:08:36.000 The question we're going to need to ask is...

00:08:37.000 One second, one second.

00:08:38.000 I am distracted.

00:08:39.000 No, no, no.

00:08:40.000 Sorry, say the last part again.

00:08:41.000 In Palestine, for example, the people in Palestine,

00:08:43.000 They are suffering.

00:08:44.000 They have been under oppression.

00:08:45.000 Yeah.

00:08:46.000 Genocide.

00:08:47.000 So do you think Benjamin Netanyahu is Satan?

00:08:49.000 He's just going to get away with it?

00:08:51.000 In an atheistic world view, it's just like, yeah.

00:08:53.000 He might.

00:08:54.000 In that way.

00:08:55.000 In that way he's justified.

00:08:56.000 It's just a rearrangement for atoms.

00:08:58.000 It's just like me having water.

00:08:59.000 There's no value to human life.

00:09:01.000 But, ultimate justice is what?

00:09:03.000 He will be questioned.

00:09:04.000 And he will suffer the consequences

00:09:06.000 In the best ultimate justice in the hereafter.

00:09:09.000 In the hereafter.

00:09:10.000 It necessitates that to happen.

00:09:12.000 I understand where you're coming from.

00:09:15.000 Because of who Allah is.

00:09:17.000 It necessitates that.

00:09:18.000 That's what you're talking about.

00:09:20.000 When you believe in the...

00:09:22.000 You've accepted with us

00:09:24.000 That about the independent being.

00:09:27.000 You've accepted so far.

00:09:28.000 And you've accepted that this independent being

00:09:31.000 Has certain characteristics.

00:09:33.000 Because the being has characteristics.

00:09:34.000 Has power to control the service.

00:09:36.000 Has knowledge to control the service.

00:09:38.000 And has the will to create this universe.

00:09:41.000 Since there are many atrocities and things

00:09:43.000 That's happening in this universe.

00:09:44.000 That means that necessitates God

00:09:47.000 To be just and fair.

00:09:49.000 Being just and fair based on what?

00:09:52.000 Based on what?

00:09:53.000 When God is punished.

00:09:54.000 That means someone deserves praise.

00:09:56.000 And someone deserves punishment.

00:09:58.000 Those who deserve to be praised.

00:10:00.000 Because they have done something good.

00:10:02.000 Those who deserve punishment.

00:10:03.000 Because they have done something bad.

00:10:05.000 That goes back to what?

00:10:07.000 To people choose to do something good.

00:10:09.000 And people choose to do something bad.

00:10:11.000 Yeah.

00:10:12.000 That's how it is.

00:10:13.000 So of course.

00:10:14.000 Basically.

00:10:15.000 We say establish the throne.

00:10:17.000 And then decorate.

00:10:18.000 Yeah.

00:10:19.000 Because you say put the throne in the middle.

00:10:21.000 And then you decorate around it.

00:10:23.000 Let's establish this now here.

00:10:25.000 God.

00:10:26.000 And then the other things that comes with it.

00:10:29.000 Mm-hmm.

00:10:30.000 You want it.

00:10:31.000 You neglect for example.

00:10:32.000 And you negate.

00:10:33.000 The free will.

00:10:34.000 Yeah.

00:10:35.000 And then.

00:10:36.000 And end up.

00:10:37.000 You're negating the existence of God.

00:10:38.000 Now with your own logic.

00:10:40.000 We prove to you.

00:10:41.000 That God exists.

00:10:42.000 What?

00:10:43.000 It has to go back.

00:10:44.000 To refute the concept of.

00:10:47.000 The free will.

00:10:48.000 Of the free will.

00:10:49.000 Mm-hmm.

00:10:50.000 So it has.

00:10:51.000 It goes vice versa.

00:10:52.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:10:53.000 Yeah.

00:10:54.000 It makes sense.

00:10:55.000 It makes sense.

00:10:56.000 If it makes sense.

00:10:57.000 Yeah.

00:10:58.000 If it makes sense.

00:10:59.000 Don't say it makes sense now.

00:11:00.000 Yeah.

00:11:01.000 But I do.

00:11:02.000 Because.

00:11:03.000 Why?

00:11:04.000 I try to explain it.

00:11:05.000 But I can't explain to you.

00:11:06.000 But you do the same thing with your atheist friend.

00:11:07.000 When he comes and says to you.

00:11:08.000 No, no.

00:11:09.000 They cannot be a God.

00:11:10.000 You say.

00:11:11.000 It makes sense now.

00:11:12.000 But when I leave.

00:11:13.000 It might not make sense.

00:11:14.000 Do you say that to him?

00:11:15.000 No.

00:11:16.000 But I used to say it to him.

00:11:17.000 Yes.

00:11:18.000 Good.

00:11:19.000 But that's.

00:11:20.000 That's.

00:11:21.000 That's.

00:11:22.000 What I'm saying.

00:11:23.000 If I say to you.

00:11:24.000 Yes.

00:11:25.000 This is.

00:11:26.000 A bottle.

00:11:27.000 Because of your bias.

00:11:28.000 You're going to say.

00:11:29.000 No.

00:11:30.000 Maybe it's not a bottle.

00:11:31.000 It's a chicken.

00:11:32.000 Would that logically follow?

00:11:33.000 That if I'm telling you it's a bottle.

00:11:34.000 And you're like.

00:11:35.000 I'm only saying yes now.

00:11:36.000 I feel like you're oversimplifying it.

00:11:37.000 It's not that easy.

00:11:38.000 It is that simple.

00:11:39.000 Don't.

00:11:40.000 Okay.

00:11:41.000 Can I give you.

00:11:42.000 Complifying.

00:11:43.000 I'm complicating it.

00:11:44.000 You're complicating it.

00:11:45.000 I'll give you.

00:11:46.000 A forebuild.

00:11:47.000 Yeah.

00:11:48.000 Example.

00:11:49.000 So.

00:11:50.000 You have believed in Islam for how long?

00:11:52.000 Eleven years.

00:11:53.000 Eleven years.

00:11:54.000 Yeah.

00:11:55.000 Okay.

00:11:56.000 So if right now someone comes along.

00:11:57.000 And.

00:11:58.000 Tells you something that.

00:11:59.000 Kind of sounds logical.

00:12:01.000 Yeah.

00:12:02.000 I wholeheartedly believe that.

00:12:04.000 You will say the same.

00:12:05.000 About what he says.

00:12:06.000 As you to me right now.

00:12:08.000 Or as me to you.

00:12:09.000 So you will say.

00:12:10.000 It sounds logical.

00:12:11.000 You know.

00:12:12.000 But I can't accept it.

00:12:13.000 I can't accept it like this.

00:12:14.000 Because I have.

00:12:15.000 I have thought.

00:12:16.000 Eleven years.

00:12:17.000 Some.

00:12:18.000 A whole different way.

00:12:19.000 You know how many things people say to him.

00:12:20.000 A lot of stuff.

00:12:21.000 This guy.

00:12:22.000 This guy.

00:12:23.000 Is being targeted.

00:12:24.000 Left, right and center.

00:12:25.000 Yeah.

00:12:26.000 By the people.

00:12:27.000 Yeah.

00:12:28.000 All kinds of things.

00:12:29.000 Atheists.

00:12:30.000 Jews.

00:12:31.000 Yeah.

00:12:32.000 Whatever.

00:12:33.000 Yeah.

00:12:34.000 I've seen it.

00:12:35.000 Yeah.

00:12:36.000 The idea is.

00:12:37.000 We get this.

00:12:38.000 We need to know.

00:12:39.000 Where is our ground.

00:12:40.000 We have.

00:12:41.000 We should have a firm ground.

00:12:42.000 First.

00:12:43.000 Before we do anything else.

00:12:44.000 You are standing on a shaky ground.

00:12:45.000 Sorry to say.

00:12:46.000 Oh yeah.

00:12:47.000 Yeah.

00:12:48.000 Of course.

00:12:49.000 I'm still.

00:12:50.000 I'm still.

00:12:51.000 Searching my way.

00:12:52.000 That's why.

00:12:53.000 You are standing on a shaky ground.

00:12:54.000 That's why everyone.

00:12:55.000 And the one who's standing on a shaky ground.

00:12:56.000 Just like a boat on a water.

00:12:57.000 And I could drive you here and there.

00:12:58.000 That's how you are.

00:12:59.000 Yeah.

00:13:00.000 Exactly.

00:13:01.000 Yeah.

00:13:02.000 This is the problem that you're facing now.

00:13:03.000 Now we say to you.

00:13:04.000 Okay.

00:13:05.000 Before you.

00:13:06.000 Come and be on a firm ground that we are talking about.

00:13:09.000 The firm ground is basically.

00:13:11.000 These are.

00:13:12.000 Using.

00:13:13.000 This.

00:13:14.000 This machine.

00:13:15.000 Yeah.

00:13:16.000 Your brain.

00:13:17.000 And by the way. 0.61

00:13:18.000 Let me on a side.

00:13:19.000 Yeah.

00:13:20.000 That's a joke on a side.

00:13:21.000 Yeah.

00:13:22.000 They said there is a man.

00:13:23.000 Wasn't using his brain.

00:13:24.000 And someone.

00:13:25.000 Was.

00:13:26.000 You know.

00:13:27.000 Was always.

00:13:28.000 You know.

00:13:29.000 They said they opened a Japanese brain guy. 0.98

00:13:30.000 And then they found.

00:13:31.000 All these.

00:13:32.000 You know.

00:13:33.000 Electronics and things like that.

00:13:34.000 They opened this guy.

00:13:35.000 Whoever used his brain.

00:13:36.000 They found the string.

00:13:37.000 Just a single string.

00:13:38.000 So they cut the string.

00:13:39.000 And then they fell down.

00:13:40.000 The string was holding the ear.

00:13:41.000 It's a joke on a side.

00:13:42.000 My point is. 0.83

00:13:43.000 You have a brain.

00:13:44.000 You don't have the string. 0.88

00:13:45.000 To hold the ear. 1.00

00:13:46.000 You don't have a brain. 0.99

00:13:47.000 You could use it. 1.00

00:13:48.000 So this.

00:13:49.000 This brain.

00:13:50.000 We have it for a reason.

00:13:51.000 To understand things around us.

00:13:52.000 To think logically.

00:13:53.000 Not to think illogically.

00:13:54.000 So.

00:13:55.000 Since we understand.

00:13:56.000 What the meaning of having a logical argument.

00:13:57.000 To stand on.

00:13:58.000 We are saying to you.

00:13:59.000 What basis.

00:14:00.000 The one who negate the existence of God. 0.83

00:14:02.000 Based on what logical argument.

00:14:03.000 Simple.

00:14:04.000 Yeah.

00:14:05.000 Okay.

00:14:06.000 If they don't have.

00:14:07.000 Let's talk about the things that we have.

00:14:08.000 We told you.

00:14:09.000 Based on our logic.

00:14:10.000 Now the things.

00:14:11.000 Either.

00:14:12.000 Either.

00:14:13.000 Impossible.

00:14:14.000 Existence.

00:14:15.000 Which is.

00:14:16.000 Never will be there.

00:14:17.000 Never will be there.

00:14:18.000 No.

00:14:19.000 No.

00:14:20.000 No.

00:14:21.000 No.

00:14:22.000 No.

00:14:23.000 No.

00:14:24.000 No.

00:14:25.000 No.

00:14:26.000 No.

00:14:27.000 No.

00:14:28.000 No.

00:14:29.000 No.

00:14:30.000 No.

00:14:31.000 No.

00:14:32.000 No.

00:14:33.000 No.

00:14:34.000 No.

00:14:35.000 No.

00:14:36.000 This is not.

00:14:37.000 Yes.

00:14:38.000 No.

00:14:39.000 Yes.

00:14:40.000 No.

00:14:41.000 Yes.

00:14:42.000 No.

00:14:43.000 No.

00:14:44.000 No.

00:14:45.000 No.

00:14:46.000 No.

00:14:47.000 No.

00:14:48.000 No.

00:14:49.000 No.

00:14:50.000 No.

00:14:51.000 No.

00:14:52.000 No.

00:14:53.000 No.

00:14:54.000 No.

00:14:55.000 No.

00:14:56.000 No.

00:14:57.000 No.

00:14:58.000 No.

00:14:59.000 No.

00:15:00.000 It was clear.

00:15:01.000 No.

00:15:02.000 No.

00:15:03.000 No.

00:15:04.000 Since it is dependent, dependent on what?

00:15:08.080 Now, when you say to me, dependent on something dependent,

00:15:11.100 and that's what you say, I will go further,

00:15:12.840 and then it will go to infinite.

00:15:14.980 That's why we say it has to have a starting point.

00:15:17.840 That starting point is the independent being.

00:15:22.320 That's the one who initiated the creation.

00:15:25.360 So that's independent being, based on your logic.

00:15:28.460 I'm talking about third ground.

00:15:31.160 No one can debunk this.

00:15:32.960 No one on earth can't debunk this.

00:15:36.060 Yeah?

00:15:36.800 No one, you bring all atheists on earth. 1.00

00:15:38.560 You bring anyone, you name it, they cannot debunk this.

00:15:42.100 They will talk nonsense here and there.

00:15:44.200 They will talk all these small things.

00:15:45.640 We're talking about the core of the faith,

00:15:48.680 the core of the faith of Islam, which is God.

00:15:52.680 So that's why we say, since this universe exists,

00:15:55.740 it must have someone or a being that created it.

00:15:59.920 Yeah.

00:16:00.760 And that is the independent one.

00:16:02.480 And it should have, since it's a being, it's a thing.

00:16:05.380 It has characteristics.

00:16:07.480 Because if it doesn't have any characteristics, it's nothing.

00:16:09.820 It doesn't exist.

00:16:10.760 OK.

00:16:11.320 So since it has characteristics,

00:16:12.820 it has power to create this universe.

00:16:15.020 That's logic, correct?

00:16:16.860 It has knowledge to create this universe.

00:16:18.820 That's logic.

00:16:20.440 And it has a will, because since it has knowledge,

00:16:23.040 that means it has a will to decide, yeah?

00:16:27.180 To decide to do it and not to do it.

00:16:29.680 Yeah.

00:16:30.080 Since it has a one, we're talking about God.

00:16:32.920 You want to name it something else, it's God.

00:16:36.020 We name it as Muslim, we say Allah means the one God.

00:16:41.060 And it has to be one, adding to this, by the way.

00:16:42.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:44.000 You forgot to say that.

00:16:45.000 And it has to be one.

00:16:45.900 It has to be one.

00:16:46.900 No, not plural.

00:16:47.900 Yeah, because you can't have two necessary beings.

00:16:50.000 Yeah.

00:16:50.500 OK, yeah.

00:16:51.500 Can I?

00:16:52.500 I want to delve deeper into free will, if you'd like.

00:16:55.580 Before we go to the free will.

00:16:56.680 Yeah.

00:16:57.480 Listen, I told you, if you debunk this,

00:17:00.680 which has already been debunked with you, finished.

00:17:03.020 But the free will is already answered.

00:17:03.980 Now, since this higher being.

00:17:06.020 It's already answered.

00:17:06.720 Listen before that.

00:17:08.060 Since this higher being is all-knowing, has independent will,

00:17:12.500 since there are things which are happening on Earth,

00:17:14.720 we born in a client, even animals born in a client,

00:17:19.300 believing in justice.

00:17:20.460 There's some justice.

00:17:22.200 Yeah.

00:17:22.700 If you bring either two monkeys, if you give one fruit here

00:17:26.840 and two fruits there, then the monkey will throw it

00:17:29.160 because they feel it being unjust, being treated unjust.

00:17:31.440 And it happens.

00:17:31.940 They did this experience with monkeys,

00:17:34.440 let alone a human being.

00:17:35.440 Yeah.

00:17:36.340 So we believe there is justice.

00:17:38.000 Yeah.

00:17:38.740 So since there is justice, yeah, where is it?

00:17:42.220 Since we're talking about the absolute higher being,

00:17:44.720 the creator of this universe, it should be justice.

00:17:49.300 Part of his characteristics, as a necessity being,

00:17:54.300 that it has to have a free, it should be justice.

00:17:59.100 Since it's justice, he will judge us based on what?

00:18:03.180 If someone is just.

00:18:04.640 Yeah.

00:18:05.300 Judging us based on what?

00:18:06.940 So someone will say, oh, you know, I'm a criminal. 0.89

00:18:10.280 I killed people.

00:18:11.340 So what's the judge?

00:18:12.240 So what God will do to us?

00:18:13.680 We'll punish.

00:18:14.480 Best to know, say, you determine me to be like that.

00:18:17.540 Why I'm punished for things I'm destined for.

00:18:20.080 Yeah.

00:18:20.380 And that's why the group of, they call it al-Jabriyyah.

00:18:23.680 They said, we are forced to do other things.

00:18:26.160 We have nothing, no free will whatsoever.

00:18:28.560 We are created like this to do what we do.

00:18:30.920 Yeah.

00:18:31.500 So that's why Islam refutes this.

00:18:33.700 And there is another type of deviant group called Qadriyyah,

00:18:37.080 which is they believe in absolute free will.

00:18:38.940 And Allah has nothing to do with it. 0.98

00:18:40.740 And those are two extremes in Islam.

00:18:42.540 And Islam is in the middle. 0.99

00:18:44.320 Those ones who say we have no free will, we say no.

00:18:46.480 Islam says, how Allah will judge us?

00:18:48.820 How Allah will punish us if we don't have free will?

00:18:51.820 And at the same time, we say, we don't have an absolute free will.

00:18:54.260 Decide whatever we want to do.

00:18:55.760 Actually, again, that's not part of the Qadr of Allah Azza wa Jal.

00:18:58.560 We say everything was decreed by Allah Azza wa Jal. 0.95

00:19:02.100 Now, at the point when you are deciding to do the right and the wrong things,

00:19:07.060 when you choose to do the right thing, yeah, then God will praise you.

00:19:11.540 And God, you deserve to give you a reward and you deserve to go to paradise.

00:19:15.740 If you choose to do the wrong thing, if you choose to harm others,

00:19:20.220 if you choose to do things, you cannot get away.

00:19:22.720 Even if you get away from this world, like some people who go to like,

00:19:26.560 what's his name, Ginkis Khan, he killed millions of people and he died.

00:19:33.100 He died.

00:19:34.100 And even he was told, the more he sleep with women that he will have more life, et cetera.

00:19:38.180 So he was thinking, doing all these things to extend his life, eventually he died.

00:19:41.840 He got away from the punishment, from killing millions of people.

00:19:44.820 He burned city, whole cities, totally, killed everyone there.

00:19:49.320 What is the justice?

00:19:50.220 Yeah, how does it follow that ultimate power?

00:19:52.760 Can you imagine, have you seen the video that shows-

00:19:54.760 But do you believe he will burn in hellfire?

00:19:56.760 Yes, of course.

00:19:57.760 Yes, of course.

00:19:58.760 But did he receive Islam? Do you know?

00:20:00.760 Okay, if he didn't receive Islam, this is why justice comes in. 0.99

00:20:04.140 We believe that if someone didn't hear the message of Islam, he will be tested on the day of judgment.

00:20:09.300 He will be tested on the day of judgment.

00:20:11.840 What do you mean?

00:20:12.840 Very simple. 0.91

00:20:13.840 Someone who hasn't reached the age of puberty, somebody who is insane-

00:20:16.540 Oh, he will not be tested, you mean?

00:20:18.000 He will be tested-

00:20:18.840 On the day of judgment.

00:20:19.840 Because for justice, God is going to give them a unique test-

00:20:22.840 So everybody who didn't receive Islam in the correct way will be judged-

00:20:24.840 Yes, so you might have a Christian and atheist, a Hindu and Muslim-

00:20:27.160 Or is tested, sorry.

00:20:28.160 In what way?

00:20:29.160 In a specific way, Allah will come to them, they won't see Allah, Allah will come to them and bring the hellfire. 0.97

00:20:34.760 It will look like hellfire. But rather, it is paradise. God Almighty will say, jump in.

00:20:40.660 It's paradise. It's a test because you're going to see fire.

00:20:44.400 So now this is a matter of, am I going to trust what's being said to me and put my tawakul-

00:20:49.740 Tawakul is having trust in God- and jump.

00:20:52.020 The ones who jump will see it as paradise, the ones who don't will end up in hellfire. Why?

00:20:56.620 Because we went through a test in this life where we had to have trust in God when we did not see Him.

00:21:01.020 Yeah.

00:21:01.860 We had to believe in a hellfire and paradise.

00:21:04.260 So therefore, it is only fair-

00:21:06.120 How is it fair that somebody, a Hindu who hasn't heard about Islam, goes straight into paradise? 1.00

00:21:10.900 No, he has to be tested.

00:21:12.060 And his test is, Allah will tell him, I am your Lord.

00:21:14.700 That's the fire, jump in, but rather you find this paradise.

00:21:18.100 If you believe in His- because you have to believe in His word.

00:21:20.600 If you believe in His word, you show His loyalty and tawheed in Him.

00:21:24.020 And you will find it as paradise.

00:21:25.420 If you reject it, you rejected it like Iblis. 1.00

00:21:27.720 When Allah told him to bow down to Adam, he said no, he fell into disbelief.

00:21:31.420 Why? Because he ascribed the mistake to Allah.

00:21:33.420 So what we're saying is, why is that there?

00:21:36.280 Because Allah is the most trust.

00:21:37.280 Would you ever follow anybody-

00:21:38.280 But why is it important to him though?

00:21:40.060 Important to who?

00:21:41.060 To Allah.

00:21:42.060 What's important to Allah?

00:21:43.060 That you listen to Him?

00:21:44.060 No, because of who He is.

00:21:45.280 Important to Allah.

00:21:46.280 It's important to Allah.

00:21:47.280 No, no, no.

00:21:48.280 Allah doesn't need us. 1.00

00:21:50.080 It's because of who He is.

00:21:51.140 We worship Allah because of who He is, not because of what He does for us. 0.98

00:21:54.920 So, you know, name me someone famous.

00:21:57.140 Ronaldo?

00:21:58.140 Okay.

00:21:59.140 If you see Ronaldo, would you get excited?

00:22:01.140 Yeah.

00:22:02.140 Okay.

00:22:03.140 Would you be like, oh my gosh, that's Ronaldo.

00:22:05.140 Would you want to go next to him?

00:22:06.140 Would you be very careful how you approach him?

00:22:08.140 Yeah.

00:22:09.140 Okay, would you say to Ronaldo, can I take a picture with you?

00:22:10.920 Yeah, of course.

00:22:11.920 Would you be extra respectful towards him?

00:22:14.820 Mm-hmm.

00:22:15.820 Extra thing, if he said to you, listen, let's go and eat together.

00:22:19.420 Oh my gosh.

00:22:20.420 If you told him to sit down here.

00:22:21.420 Sit down here.

00:22:22.420 Or do this.

00:22:22.920 You will listen to him.

00:22:23.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:24.420 What has Ronaldo done for you?

00:22:25.920 Has he paid for your bills?

00:22:27.420 Mm-hmm.

00:22:28.420 Was it-

00:22:29.420 Because I would get something out of it.

00:22:30.920 That's the only reason.

00:22:31.920 Okay, that's the picture.

00:22:32.920 But even if you did not get a picture, because of who he is, is the respect you show him.

00:22:36.920 Yeah.

00:22:37.920 Ronaldo has done nothing for you.

00:22:38.920 Does Ronaldo make your heart beat?

00:22:39.920 No.

00:22:40.920 Does Ronaldo have these white cells in your body that help you recover when you're ill?

00:22:44.920 Mm-hmm.

00:22:45.920 Okay.

00:22:46.920 But that's only if you believe that he did.

00:22:47.920 No, no, no.

00:22:48.920 Like God did.

00:22:49.920 No, no, no.

00:22:50.920 That's only if you believe Allah actually gave it to you, right?

00:22:51.920 No, no, of course not.

00:22:52.920 But for me, in my world for right now, I don't-

00:22:53.920 No, no, no.

00:22:54.920 Yeah?

00:22:55.920 No, no, no.

00:22:56.920 But it does, because you affirm the necessary being.

00:22:57.920 And you-

00:22:58.920 Except that he's all-powerful.

00:22:59.920 In that way.

00:23:00.920 Therefore, who else created your heart?

00:23:01.920 There's a necessary being.

00:23:02.920 It goes back to him.

00:23:03.920 You have-

00:23:04.920 Your whole body is made of DNA.

00:23:06.920 DNA is a program.

00:23:07.920 Yes?

00:23:08.920 That is so complex.

00:23:09.920 Yes?

00:23:10.920 There are three billion letters in the gene.

00:23:13.920 The genome.

00:23:14.920 Yes?

00:23:15.920 Okay.

00:23:16.920 Those letters have switch buttons on and off that make your heart-

00:23:19.920 You know, every single DNA has the same three billion letters.

00:23:22.920 It's only the gene, the letters that it turns off and on that makes your heart your heart,

00:23:27.920 your liver your liver, your kidney your kidney.

00:23:30.920 So the question is this.

00:23:31.920 If there's information in the DNA, it requires intelligence.

00:23:34.920 Who's that intelligence?

00:23:35.920 It has to be Allah. 0.94

00:23:36.920 So what I'm saying is, the one who makes your heart beat, the one who makes you breathe,

00:23:41.920 the one who gives you this food and the water that you drink.

00:23:43.920 Yes, the fact that you can even taste.

00:23:45.920 Imagine we had to eat food and it was painful.

00:23:47.920 We enjoy food.

00:23:48.920 Yeah?

00:23:49.920 All of these things that God has created in you, he deserves to be worshipped.

00:23:53.920 He deserves to be worshipped because of who he is.

00:23:56.920 Let alone what he does.

00:23:57.920 Forget all the stuff that he does for you.

00:23:59.920 Because of who he is.

00:24:00.920 Do you know how big the universe is?

00:24:01.920 Have you seen the universe?

00:24:02.920 Have you seen the video that shows our planet?

00:24:04.920 Have you seen that?

00:24:05.920 That is who the creator of the heavens and earth is.

00:24:08.920 He deserves to worship 24-7.

00:24:10.920 Not five times a day.

00:24:11.920 24-7 but he's only told us five times a day.

00:24:13.920 We should worship him the moment we're born till we die.

00:24:17.920 But he only asks us to pray five times a day.

00:24:19.920 So once you acknowledge the respect you give Ronaldo,

00:24:22.920 there is no comparison between Ronaldo and Allah.

00:24:26.920 Allah is the creator of the heavens and the earth.

00:24:28.920 That's why he deserves us to listen to him.

00:24:31.920 Does it make sense?

00:24:34.920 It makes sense but maybe it's my bias.

00:24:37.920 There's just something in me that...

00:24:40.920 I think it's also because your points I've heard it before.

00:24:46.920 I've watched it all.

00:24:47.920 I watched you mention all your points.

00:24:49.920 Now you're watching me live.

00:24:50.920 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:51.920 But the difference...

00:24:52.920 It's because I think I went from a point of accepting what you say

00:24:58.920 to not accepting what you say.

00:25:00.920 Yeah.

00:25:01.920 That it makes it even more hard for me to accept what you say now

00:25:04.920 because it feels like my ground is unstable.

00:25:08.920 No, it's not unstable.

00:25:10.920 Like, let me be honest here.

00:25:12.920 You're not a skeptic.

00:25:13.920 You're not an extreme skeptic.

00:25:14.920 You believe in certain logical...

00:25:16.920 When you wake up in the morning, you say I'm in Pluto.

00:25:19.920 No.

00:25:20.920 You know you're in your house.

00:25:21.920 Yeah?

00:25:22.920 Mm-hmm.

00:25:23.920 If you open your fridge and see a rabbit,

00:25:24.920 would you not say that's weird?

00:25:25.920 Why do I have a rabbit in my fridge?

00:25:26.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:27.920 Of course.

00:25:28.920 You use your logical, rational faculties when it comes to your day-to-day basis.

00:25:31.920 Why is it when it comes to logical things pertaining to God,

00:25:34.920 you become an extreme skeptic all of a sudden?

00:25:36.920 Why is it when your day-to-day life...

00:25:38.920 Today, you logically knew you had to be somewhere in 30 minutes.

00:25:41.920 You knew you had to go and do that and come back here.

00:25:43.920 You used logic.

00:25:44.920 You used your car.

00:25:45.920 You drove.

00:25:46.920 You didn't come and say, I'm not in my car.

00:25:47.920 Maybe I'm in the Matrix.

00:25:48.920 Maybe I am in Mars.

00:25:50.920 Maybe I'm not even...

00:25:51.920 I don't even exist.

00:25:52.920 I'm taking the red pill.

00:25:53.920 Maybe.

00:25:54.920 Whatever it is.

00:25:55.920 The blue pill.

00:25:56.920 Exactly.

00:25:57.920 So you use logic throughout everything.

00:25:59.920 Why is it when it comes to the most logical thing that God exists, you're like, I don't

00:26:02.920 know.

00:26:03.920 Do you get what I'm trying to say?

00:26:04.920 Yeah, I get what you're trying to say.

00:26:05.920 We have to be consistent.

00:26:06.920 Of course.

00:26:07.920 So consistency requires, this makes sense.

00:26:08.920 I'm not saying this to, you know, so you can say, wow, Ali is such an amazing orator.

00:26:12.920 I'm not.

00:26:13.920 I'm just saying logically it follows.

00:26:15.920 Tell me something logically against it, I'll accept it.

00:26:17.920 Come and say, Ali, no, your premise is wrong because of this.

00:26:20.920 I accept it.

00:26:21.920 Whether you're a friend, cosmic skeptic, I don't care who the hell it is.

00:26:23.920 I'll face anyone.

00:26:24.920 You know why?

00:26:25.920 Because logic will, I don't care who's a professor.

00:26:27.920 I spoke with the people who are physicists, whatever.

00:26:30.920 I spoke with the professors.

00:26:32.920 Logic is logic.

00:26:34.920 You get it?

00:26:35.920 So there must be something else.

00:26:36.920 What is it that's led to you to say, okay, Islam cannot be the truth. 1.00

00:26:40.920 What led?

00:26:41.920 Because it's not even Islam. 0.99

00:26:42.920 You said you stopped believing in God.

00:26:44.920 Before, not now, because now you accept the necessary being.

00:26:47.920 Okay.

00:26:48.920 So when I was converted, this is not an answer to your question, but it's about what you said.

00:26:54.920 So when I was converted, I used to pray here as well on the Fridays.

00:26:59.920 Inshallah, you're going to pray again.

00:27:00.920 Who knows?

00:27:01.920 Inshallah.

00:27:02.920 Inshallah.

00:27:03.920 And every time I prayed, for about maybe six months, I prayed sometimes, like once a day, maybe, max.

00:27:13.920 Every time I prayed, there was just...

00:27:15.920 Even though I already converted, I've heard all the... like so much information.

00:27:20.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:21.920 And I accepted what you said in your video back then about...

00:27:28.920 Necessary being.

00:27:29.920 What did you say?

00:27:30.920 I can't talk so fast.

00:27:31.920 About the necessary being and...

00:27:32.920 And about looking in your fridge and there's a rabbit in it.

00:27:34.920 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:35.920 That's not logical.

00:27:36.920 You use logic.

00:27:37.920 So I used logic.

00:27:38.920 I accepted.

00:27:39.920 Even though I didn't feel the belief.

00:27:42.920 Because belief is something...

00:27:43.920 It's from within.

00:27:44.920 It's not...

00:27:45.920 It's connected to logic, but it's not just based on logic.

00:27:47.920 Exactly.

00:27:48.920 Yeah.

00:27:49.920 This is where I think there's an issue.

00:27:50.920 Logically...

00:27:51.920 So I didn't believe.

00:27:52.920 I can't...

00:27:53.920 Like every time I went down, I said, why am I doing this?

00:27:54.920 This is not...

00:27:55.920 Ah, okay.

00:27:56.920 Alright.

00:27:57.920 And that's why right now when I'm with you and I try to logically accept it.

00:28:00.920 There's still something inside me.

00:28:02.920 I...

00:28:03.920 I think...

00:28:04.920 Let me tell you something.

00:28:05.920 I don't believe it still.

00:28:06.920 The belief is not there, but...

00:28:07.920 There is something.

00:28:08.920 Yeah.

00:28:09.920 It's not just only the logic.

00:28:10.920 Sometimes.

00:28:11.920 We have as well...

00:28:12.920 We should establish a relationship.

00:28:13.920 A lot of intent.

00:28:14.920 A lot of intent.

00:28:15.920 Okay.

00:28:16.920 And should come from the things inside.

00:28:17.920 Love from the Creator.

00:28:18.920 What?

00:28:19.920 Now here...

00:28:20.920 That's why I think...

00:28:21.920 Maybe it's the people who give you dawah. 0.50

00:28:23.920 Yeah.

00:28:24.920 Or people who...

00:28:25.920 Maybe they were just...

00:28:26.920 Maybe they were just only talking about logical arguments and things like this.

00:28:29.920 I'm not always in favor of the logical arguments.

00:28:31.920 Except for those who are strong.

00:28:33.920 And you're not.

00:28:34.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:35.920 It depends on the person.

00:28:36.920 They should be.

00:28:37.920 Part of our dawah is to make the people to love their fiatra as well.

00:28:40.920 Part of our mission.

00:28:41.920 To love Allah.

00:28:42.920 To do it out of love to Allah.

00:28:44.920 Not just only...

00:28:45.920 I worship Allah because I fear Him. 1.00

00:28:47.920 Which is true.

00:28:48.920 I worship Allah because I believe in Him.

00:28:50.920 Because logically He is there.

00:28:52.920 Not that.

00:28:53.920 We worship Allah because we love Him as well.

00:28:55.920 We love Allah.

00:28:56.920 We love Allah more than our father, our mother, everyone.

00:28:59.920 We love Allah.

00:29:00.920 Then the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.

00:29:01.920 He said no one will be a true believer.

00:29:03.920 Then Allah and his messenger will be more dear to him, more beloved to him than his father,

00:29:08.920 than his mother, than his children, than the people of the world.

00:29:12.920 He said no one will be a true believer.

00:29:13.920 He said no one will be a true believer.

00:29:14.920 He repeated this to him, even more than your son.

00:29:15.920 And then he thought about it and he said I love you, I love Allah and his messenger more

00:29:17.920 than myself.

00:29:18.920 So why did he change?

00:29:19.920 He said I remember my death.

00:29:20.920 And I remember the after.

00:29:21.920 And I remember your death.

00:29:22.920 And I remember your death. 0.99

00:29:23.920 And if I die, I die, I die. 0.95

00:29:24.920 You are the messenger of Allah.

00:29:25.920 So the point is that of course we should have to have this relation of love between us and

00:29:32.920 Allah

00:29:55.920 today told you what percentage on earth that allah would send a brother on this isolated place i don't

00:30:03.040 know where it is then he booked us in the middle of nowhere the hotel yeah and allah brought this

00:30:08.160 brother there to us and i said it's a dua because we know we believe in allah and we see this

00:30:14.720 we see it on a daily basis it's not just only one incident or two incidents we see it we see

00:30:19.360 allah saved us from calamities from catastrophe we see us allah has saved us we see this we see

00:30:24.960 this with our eyes we see we we feel it we feel his presence and everything around us yeah it's not

00:30:30.640 just only because we logically we know about him it's about actually we feel everything that happens

00:30:37.360 we saw the mercy of allah as though i know the most important thing you see how allah is merciful

00:30:42.560 and how we love allah just look when you get married in the future and then you'll see how

00:30:48.080 much your wife cares about her children because you didn't appreciate your mother as much as you see

00:30:52.720 when you see yourself how your wife treating your children at that point you will realize how much

00:30:57.920 your mother's pain and everything of course you didn't see this and you see that in the night so

00:31:03.600 we think about it why this woman will will will take that will bear the pain in pregnancy will take the 0.51

00:31:13.280 pen someone thinking about it someone put her the pain that the women some women they barely die 1.00

00:31:19.040 while they're giving birth can imagine someone put them into nearly death and as soon as they

00:31:25.440 when they when they go back to their conscience the first thing they want to do to hug that child

00:31:29.440 yeah it doesn't make sense in any one anything even for us as men i think about it i say for

00:31:36.960 example if i have for example appendix or something the first thing to get rid of it

00:31:41.280 the woman will hug will have their child not just that they will defend them with their lives

00:31:51.600 and i see them sometimes when i say in the night sometimes yeah i sometimes you know sometimes i

00:31:56.800 sleep because the in the beginning the child they they don't sleep in the night and i have only my

00:32:02.160 four hours and sometimes i go sleep somewhere else yeah and i see her like subhanallah yeah in the night 1.00

00:32:08.560 she would wake up like as soon as that baby cry she would wake up just to bless the child to change

00:32:14.240 the child and then she is already exhausted which is two days ago she give birth to the child

00:32:19.840 and yet she is in pain she is in all of these things and then she will wake up to do this forward

00:32:26.480 what put in her heart to love this this creature yeah and on top of this this guy who's gonna grow up like

00:32:33.600 my son is gonna be so defined he's gonna cause their problem she had to call me like even from

00:32:39.680 from there from britain or something they said please deal with him yeah and i remember the time

00:32:44.400 that she was dealing with with with him and when she was in the end of his life and then look at just

00:32:51.040 only think about it and say why how allah put mercy in her heart that means there is in her nature 0.74

00:32:57.920 something that allah planted in her to have that mercy to have that kindness to have that emotion

00:33:05.280 towards the child to protect that child to care about that child just this and allah is more merciful

00:33:13.120 than him upon us and the prophet said he gave this example he saw a woman you know during the battlefield

00:33:21.360 and that woman was she was scared she was looking around and then she saw that when she heard 0.93

00:33:26.640 her child she hugged that child you know in the middle of the wall and we know the people fighting

00:33:30.400 each other and then she was hugging him protecting him and her child and then the prophet said he said

00:33:36.480 do you see this woman will throw her child in the fire would she do that they said no she would 1.00

00:33:42.960 never do it because she would she literally put her life in danger to protect her child but then he said

00:33:49.520 allah is more merciful upon us then this woman towards her child if you think about this then

00:33:56.560 you will know the measure of allah so it's not just about logical argument yeah yeah logic you know

00:34:01.680 it's it's not about yeah yeah i have i have focused on that as well yeah and i don't think that's the

00:34:06.320 issue with you it's not no no i mean i have also focused on the this what you what you just said about

00:34:12.320 about um how do you say alhamdulillah and what like like praise yeah like thankfulness because

00:34:19.680 what he gave us i focused on it as well but it was not sufficient why why was it not sufficient

00:34:25.360 because the only way it's not sufficient is if you truly understand what allah does for you

00:34:28.960 it's impossible for you to say it's insufficient let me give you an example yeah if i gave you five

00:34:32.080 thousand pounds today and i said to you every day i'm going to send five thousand pounds to your account

00:34:35.680 would you be grateful to me yeah okay what if i said to you i have a mansion five bedroom house

00:34:40.560 yeah but i want you to live in it yeah but that but this is again this is logic logically coming to

00:34:45.200 that point not logically it's also more in the sense of what allah does because you said i've done

00:34:49.840 the sense of gratitude but it didn't it wasn't enough how could it not be enough if it if it follows

00:34:55.360 like what i'm saying is yeah how could one not be grateful if i did a favor for you you'd be

00:35:00.160 grateful am i right or wrong yeah i would be okay would you not would you not have that what are you

00:35:04.400 what are you focusing that that i didn't that i didn't really fully believe no i'm not saying that

00:35:08.560 because i feel like that's then the no no no that was the thing no no i'm not making a judgment if

00:35:13.120 you fully believe that i don't know that it can be or cannot be what i'm saying is if i do you a

00:35:17.360 favor would you not have some kind of an emotional attachment to me yeah i would okay good yeah yeah

00:35:22.320 so it's not just logical it's not like okay he did something for me but it's more of an emotional

00:35:25.520 attachment where it's like man he didn't have to do that i mean he's such a good person you will say that

00:35:29.920 yeah you will not would you think i'm a bad person if i said to you look i want to give you five

00:35:33.200 thousand the first thing you say is what does he want from me okay if i say to you i don't want nothing

00:35:37.200 from you just take it yeah would you not think okay he's a good man yeah okay so if i come and

00:35:43.520 say to you listen i'm going to say five thousand send five thousand pounds to your account every week

00:35:49.120 yeah and then if i gave you a car and if i gave you a house would you not say why is this man doing

00:35:55.600 this for me would you not say that you don't come to me one day and say ali like like i would

00:36:00.400 appreciate thank you why are you doing this for me if i say to you nothing i just i just want goodness

00:36:05.200 for you would you not increase in love as a brother to me i feel like that's a very personal

00:36:12.640 point i don't know if i no personally put yourself yeah yeah well i don't even know if i experience

00:36:17.360 love at all okay like for anybody i swear that's fine that's fine but what i'm saying is no i don't

00:36:23.520 i don't know for sure he expressed enough for anybody what i'm saying is this have you got your

00:36:26.720 parents in your life yeah both mom and dad yeah okay uh how's your relationship with them

00:36:33.120 fairly good okay it's like i cannot complain compared to other people yeah it's good all right

00:36:38.160 so so if you understand because sometimes people don't know what the definition they think that

00:36:41.600 because they don't know what it is they think they don't have it but they do but they just yeah

00:36:45.200 of course my point my point is this bro is that if i did all of those stuff for you you'd be grateful

00:36:49.920 to me if i called you if i said listen adam i need your help you would help you come bro you

00:36:54.320 said listen what do you need yeah yeah exactly of course i would help you yeah good so what i'm

00:36:57.680 saying is that that thing that i've done for you would be enough yeah yeah yeah so how is what if i

00:37:02.880 said to you i'm going to give you 10 million pounds but tomorrow you're not going to wake up would

00:37:05.840 you take it no why not that means your life is more valuable than 10 million pounds yeah who gives you

00:37:12.160 that life i don't know for sure and i think that's and i think it's based on that i didn't know for

00:37:18.800 sure back then as well okay based on our logical argument is allah that gives our life meaning

00:37:23.040 10 million pounds is not enough for me to ask you for your life not a billion pounds if i said to

00:37:28.720 you i'll give you the entire earth it's not enough which means the one who's giving you life you should

00:37:33.680 be far greater to him than any money that i give you yeah it has to follow yeah of course 5 000 pounds

00:37:39.520 and you're telling me yeah thank you i love you brother thank you very much etc i'll give you a house

00:37:43.280 allah has given you a life that you will not replace if i said to you i'll give you one trillion pounds

00:37:48.000 but tomorrow you're going to die you say i don't want it meaning the life that you handle is more 0.61

00:37:52.640 precious who is giving you that life allah if allah has given you this life he deserves worship

00:38:01.920 one billion euros or whatever but you know you will lose your eyes tomorrow

00:38:08.720 no i won't take it exactly so meaning even not just life even if you're still alive yeah that's it

00:38:13.200 by losing that you're losing your eyes you'll not accept you still god has given you the eyes to

00:38:17.760 see ability to look yeah ability to hear and you can never be and you can never repay for that by

00:38:22.080 the way just so but then then i ask why when i was when i was uh praying and i converted yeah i feel

00:38:30.000 like three years yeah three years of daily researching is kind of enough to yeah okay no it's not

00:38:36.080 why it's not enough can you finish your sentence why what but then why didn't i believe i didn't

00:38:43.120 no no we know you didn't believe no i didn't believe or at least i didn't feel it i didn't feel

00:38:47.920 okay you feel like you didn't believe i feel i feel like i didn't believe even though i accepted the

00:38:52.000 logic okay good and that's why i feel like okay so so what it means is look it can be like allah says

00:38:56.800 in the quran to the bedouins he says they said we have believed they said don't say you've believed say

00:39:01.520 you have submitted iman is a whole different thing i believe you submitted i thought logically

00:39:07.680 makes sense yep okay one god yeah perfect but iman is something that you work for did you need to

00:39:14.000 make dua did you used to pray to god did you speak to god yeah what would you ask if you don't mind me

00:39:19.040 asking is there anything specific you would ask to give me certainty certainty to give me uh more

00:39:24.240 strength more belief okay that kind of stuff okay all right what i would say is personally bro i would

00:39:28.800 say that's the lacking part i think logically bro you logically i think logically makes sense about

00:39:33.920 god existing there's ample of evidence i think you of course i will have to find it out myself

00:39:38.400 more yeah it is it is but i would say bro i would read on the concepts that you yeah you can look i've

00:39:42.640 spoken about that there's like to me i have no doubt about i don't think anybody would rebuke that what

00:39:46.400 i'm saying is though i think the spiritual aspect is missing here it's because it's everything's become

00:39:50.720 too logical and in islam it's like like not everything's logic of course the aspect but we believe iman

00:39:56.960 look let me tell you something i can bring you uncles full-blown old uncle somali or kurdish or

00:40:01.360 bengali uncles i promise you nobody can sway their faith if an atheist came and said a big bang 0.99

00:40:07.440 listen yeah shut up man i don't know what you're talking about you crazy man yallah 0.98

00:40:13.280 and this shows me this is what i noticed you know some people hidayah is from allah it's not a logical 0.99

00:40:18.880 thing you have these elderly people you can bring them all the things you know what it shows you

00:40:26.080 that genuinely sometimes we need to question our heart when the heart is has diseases we need to

00:40:32.240 work on that once we get rid of those things and whatever other factors there is allah will give

00:40:36.720 you guidance let me tell you something even if somebody comes and gives you something like you

00:40:40.960 said to me yeah like i'm in a place where i'm certain in faith in my faith why because i have

00:40:45.040 logical reasons and i believe inshallah i have some kind of faith so when someone comes to me with

00:40:49.680 this i'll say you know what majority of the religion makes sense to me this little but okay i'm going to

00:40:53.520 look into i'm not going to sway myself because you get it so what i'm saying is i think that aspect

00:40:58.400 is missing and i think internally look and think what can it be and have that communication because

00:41:03.680 allah says in the quran i respond to the quran that calls upon me he doesn't say the muslim

00:41:07.040 he says the quran that calls upon me i think today you should go home and you forgot how to pray 0.98

00:41:12.240 we'll give you a where's our map gone i have a map at home one of these not one of oh this is the

00:41:18.720 the teaching mat okay not these much brother this is a special mat there we go so this is from us

00:41:25.520 if you return back to islam inshallah but i would say bro turn to allah look you need to treat allah 0.93

00:41:31.120 like you know like the salaf that is it's so hard to do that if you look it's not don't make your heart

00:41:36.640 for yourself something that's easy is it hard for you to go home today and say allah if you are there

00:41:40.560 i'm looking for guidance guide me is it hard no no sincerely sincerely sincerely he doesn't have

00:41:44.960 sincerity no no no no because he said the idea is the point i think he does what he does i'll tell

00:41:50.320 you something and i know because i think yeah when you are skeptic about it when you're calling someone

00:41:55.440 you will never get the answer the idea is literally you're sincere you know you from your heart you're

00:42:01.280 asking the guidance there is a man he can do that there is there is a scholar actually he was

00:42:06.000 making logical arguments about islam and things like this in the past yeah and he made like 100

00:42:13.280 reasons 100 reasons debunking the people who disbelieve in god yeah made 100 you know reasons

00:42:20.560 well one of the reasons that makes you know to believe in god about about you know certainty to

00:42:25.680 believe in god yeah and he passed by nasa poor which is nice of all you know that nowadays in

00:42:29.600 of pakistan this area yeah and then so an old woman she was in the in the industry they said come

00:42:36.480 come there this is color such and such he's coming in the town i said why what's the what's the famous

00:42:41.120 and he said he found he is the one who authored the book that contains 100 reasons yeah to believe

00:42:47.600 in god then this old lady what she said so allah if he didn't have 100 doubts i was believing in god

00:42:54.080 he would not author a book about believing in god in 100 ism yeah probably and he left that and he said

00:43:00.320 this statement he said that day he literally burned his book and he said oh allah give me a faith like

00:43:07.040 the faith of the elderly women in my support not this way i want like this i want to believe like this 0.99

00:43:13.440 because the point is we could we could keep bringing you logical arguments things that's not a logical thing

00:43:19.200 but at the end of the day at the end of the day we cannot penetrate your heart we cannot open your

00:43:23.120 heart we cannot make you to be sincere in what you say yeah so that's what we're saying to you

00:43:27.680 if you are if allah knows sincerity in you allah will guide you true if allah knows i will tell you

00:43:33.440 something and that's how it is if allah knows allah says in the quran allah when we see the quran

00:43:42.080 meaning the one who struggle in our paths we will guard them our way and we will not guide the wrongdoers

00:43:48.640 and allah said allah will never guide them meaning so if allah knows you have sincerity in your heart

00:43:54.240 yeah you could convince i'm sincere you know yourself it's not about you know pretending but

00:43:59.120 allah knows what's in your heart so if you are sincere to allah asking allah sincerely

00:44:04.560 to guide you to open your heart then allah do that look i would say believe you on that if not

00:44:11.120 i will do that and i think you've got nothing to lose bro look if you're sincere like i did this

00:44:14.720 before i came to islam i said look i know there's a high power i said if you are there

00:44:18.800 show me which is a religion christianity islam judaism i don't care whichever one it is 0.97

00:44:23.280 yeah you are sincere i'm sure you are it's just you're a bit like i don't know but you know

00:44:28.880 there's a higher power there in the six days ask just say if you are there please guide me bro if

00:44:34.320 you're sincere you've got nothing to lose if you do that now the only thing is allah will send you

00:44:39.200 signs it's upon you to take them and reject them now that is on you sure i'll i'll do tonight

00:44:44.000 do it do it i'll ask them and i know you would ask about the signs i would say to you yeah that

00:44:48.000 you come in here it's been emotional sorry you come in here today yes you see it as a sign you

00:44:54.560 mean yeah what's more than this bro forget that forget that are you telling me it's a coincidence

00:44:59.680 that brother randomly goes i'll answer his question okay no no no where is he is he here or no no no

00:45:06.080 listen but here i'm pretty sure you heard me and me and my friends listen listen no but no but

00:45:11.600 you think that there is something there's something further than this

00:45:16.000 how did we come here i met him randomly i don't know him i never met him in my life yeah

00:45:22.000 there's so much there's so much things of course something is going to happen like that

00:45:24.720 so of course no i met him randomly in the height park last week on sunday and he said to me i'm from

00:45:30.960 i'm from amsterdam i said we are planning to go to holland to netherlands we're going to rotterdam and

00:45:38.800 then we're planning to go to amsterdam we didn't arrange with the brother from amsterdam yet and then he

00:45:43.360 said to me he's gonna arrange it and he was after and not just that he was planning to arrange where

00:45:47.840 in amsterdam and he didn't he couldn't get hold of them and then he said that our local muslim here

00:45:55.280 they can arrange it here so he arranged it here not in amsterdam not in the city yeah and we came

00:46:00.880 but if it was in amsterdam there would be probably someone that converted or has been converted we don't

00:46:06.320 know also together maybe maybe no no the issue is this the fact that it wasn't it was here that brother

00:46:12.560 so you didn't even speak he didn't even you don't know him no but you heard me talking with no problem

00:46:16.640 still the fact that he we this could have ended with okay we have to go the fact that it ended

00:46:20.960 with anything that's the thing okay now the problem just because it ended like this doesn't mean perfect

00:46:24.880 now this is this is this it depends on how you see it if you have this is the problem now now

00:46:30.240 you're gonna say i don't have it in my heart or no no no i don't believe in it that's why the fact

00:46:34.080 that what you're doing is the fact that you're looking at things and instead of seeing there could be

00:46:39.760 a chance that actually there could be a chance it's no but you don't sure you are more on the other

00:46:43.840 side of no but other factors that it could have been like because i've been believing that for

00:46:46.880 three years of course that's the problem you see what i'm saying you have built a habit in your head

00:46:51.680 that it's it's as if if we was to if the angels were to descend you would say this is just some

00:46:56.480 kind of illusion it's come to the point where it's like if we were to say to god is going to

00:47:01.600 speak to you and say i am god you say now that's just some sound it's become to the point where

00:47:05.680 it's as if you're like i don't want to believe like if you brought me the angels and the hereafter

00:47:09.760 we went on a trip and we saw the hell and heaven yeah you say bro it's vr visual reality

00:47:14.640 do you know what i'm trying to say so you need to work on that you need to think to yourself

00:47:17.840 why am i always just to find it too no it can be other possibility other possibility can it be god

00:47:22.080 no so it's all possibilities but cannot be assigned it's why cannot the sign be the option do you get it

00:47:27.200 no because i don't believe in islam and that's why i don't see it as an option that's fine but what i'm

00:47:32.320 saying is why is it that all other possibilities but not god why cannot be god why cannot be that the one

00:47:38.320 because i don't believe what do you mean but we logically showed you the necessary being you

00:47:41.840 accepted necessary being you accepted attributes you've really accepted that no but i i've told

00:47:45.520 you the complicated thing with that that's the problem you didn't tell you did not tell me

00:47:48.720 no sheikh one said adam no not only that because because one argument you made against the argument

00:47:55.040 we don't have to discuss that because there are let's say i have a conversation with one of these

00:47:59.600 men here okay and they are not as educated as you are yes so i talk with them and somehow i convince

00:48:04.640 them yeah okay yeah how like if i if i convince him yeah that doesn't mean that he's wrong

00:48:12.480 and because because you have a certain type of argument where i just know you have so much more

00:48:17.360 knowledge than i am and that's very nice but something coming from nothing no but wait wait

00:48:22.400 does you need to be a smart person to say yes or no to that but no because when i was with my friend

00:48:27.680 that was logical how he said it so does he believe that something would come from nothing he's out

00:48:31.360 no no i don't exactly know what he said but he has just just because no he doesn't have a yes or

00:48:37.360 no answer that's why i can't just embrace it and tell it to you yeah it's more difficult than that

00:48:42.400 it's not just point blank i i i understand so that's the hard the thing is hard part you can't

00:48:46.480 just accept it like that no i understand i have to read into the points i have to check both sides

00:48:51.200 i can't just accept just because you made a good argument that that you're totally correct

00:48:56.960 i didn't make a good argument i made a logical argument and you said nothing to rebut it

00:49:02.640 yeah no no because i can make a logical argument to him wait wait no no he's correct you can you

00:49:09.360 can make a logical argument that he doesn't know and that he believes me and it still is not a

00:49:13.760 logical argument but it's a good argument yeah so that could be for you as well we don't know but

00:49:18.160 you cannot ever tell him you cannot ever convince him or he can convince you that something can come

00:49:21.920 from nothing you don't need to be a smart guy for that can something come from nothing so many people

00:49:26.160 that something cannot come from nothing as well of course one one plus one equals two

00:49:30.560 zero doesn't equal one thank you so you know that nothing from nothing nothing comes yeah

00:49:35.520 zero do you believe something can come from nothing no good so look anyone will agree in the park in the

00:49:41.360 whole world you go they will say to you yeah from nothing nothing comes but it's not a matter of

00:49:45.040 being smart it's illogical well i i've never seen something that comes from thank you yeah that's why

00:49:49.280 it's logical so imagine if someone came and said no no i believe something comes from nothing does that

00:49:53.680 mean now because you made a smart argument he doesn't know if you went to somebody else no

00:49:57.280 nothing well nothing comes well my friend he told me something else you said but why do you

00:50:03.040 treat this friend like a prophet you keep talking to me like like you treat this friend like he's a

00:50:07.280 prophet bro bring him to me i promise you i promise you i don't want i don't want to sound

00:50:12.000 arrogant yeah i promise you he will have nothing to say i promise you i will stay here an extra day

00:50:17.040 bring him to my face okay if i speak to him and i debate him and he cannot answer would you change

00:50:21.120 your mind or would you say he asked him we have to go to cosmic skeptic now we we sure surely have to

00:50:26.720 go go to cosmic skeptic but if no no but wait well i'm gonna win if if you convince him yeah if i

00:50:31.840 convince him then i need to go to cosmic skeptic no no then then i will say i will actually take it

00:50:37.040 seriously i will i will go and uh research islam again okay no problem if i speak to him and if i can

00:50:42.240 debunk him i already called him he can no no he doesn't want to meet me no no he's not able to

00:50:47.360 no no i will stay an extra day you stay an extra day yes i ask him okay ask him i will come to him

00:50:52.800 anywhere if i debate him yeah and logically it doesn't follow and he makes no sense yeah you

00:50:57.760 would look into islam of course okay i'm staying an extra day yes i will i'm staying an extra day let

00:51:01.360 me know when i'm gonna change my ticket yes give me you got my number yeah let me know when i'll come

00:51:05.680 from rotterdam i was gonna go somewhere else i'm okay don't change it yes i i ask him i'll wait for you

00:51:09.760 i'll wait for you yeah but he no you don't even have to you can he has work in the morning and

00:51:14.480 then he's he would be able he said if he if he would you arrange it uh 24. where's he from is he

00:51:20.960 dutch yeah he's speak english yeah perfect he's good that's what i mean but don't want to say oh my

00:51:25.600 english no no no of course of course yeah perfect yeah thank you adam it was a pleasure man thank you

00:51:29.200 too thank you no harsh feelings no no no no thank you for the food and everything no no it's a pleasure

00:51:34.400 man i'm not the one and how did you know

Ali Dawah - December 31, 2024

EX MUSLIM FINALLY CONVINCED IN MOSQUE？ - PART 2

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