Ali Dawah - April 18, 2020


EX MUSLIM RECITES QURAN - SPEAKERS CORNER


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In this episode, I am joined by my good friend Ali Ali to talk about the massacre of Banu Khurratza and the crimes he committed. We discuss the history of the massacre and how it can be compared to the crimes of the Crusaders.

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00:00:00.000 My friend, if I said these things in my country where I was born, you know, okay, are you drunk by it because I had no alcohol in his room.
00:00:07.920 I had a couple of drinks, yeah.
00:00:09.240 Sir, you're jumping all over the place. You're here, you're there, you're everywhere, I'm trying to catch you, yeah.
00:00:13.460 Let's just respectfully have a dialogue.
00:00:15.200 You know, one of my favorite was, yeah.
00:00:19.800 One thing I like about you is at least you're policed.
00:00:23.720 I'll try to be. I don't ask Allah to guide us both.
00:00:26.260 I don't ask Allah to guide me. 0.52
00:00:27.640 That's why you're not guided, man.
00:00:30.940 You said it with your own mouth.
00:00:48.440 I'll introduce myself.
00:00:50.020 Yes.
00:00:50.860 So, what's your name?
00:00:51.660 Is it recording?
00:00:52.680 What's your name?
00:00:53.600 Ali.
00:00:54.280 Ali.
00:00:55.020 My name is Ahmed.
00:00:56.320 Ahmed.
00:00:57.020 Ahmed.
00:00:57.640 How are you doing?
00:00:58.660 I'm all right.
00:00:59.400 I was born Muslim.
00:01:00.800 Came from a very, very religious family.
00:01:04.200 I'm a doctor.
00:01:05.300 I'm a neurologist.
00:01:06.200 Okay.
00:01:06.860 And I became an atheist around 15 years ago.
00:01:11.000 Somebody's smoking cannabis here.
00:01:12.620 Yeah, I know.
00:01:14.440 It comes from there.
00:01:15.440 Sorry.
00:01:17.980 Where are you from?
00:01:20.240 I'm Kurdish.
00:01:20.920 You're Turkish. 0.98
00:01:23.780 You know what?
00:01:24.600 Turkey.
00:01:24.880 Whatever religion.
00:01:26.200 Turkey and Pakistan are always friends.
00:01:29.320 Anyway.
00:01:30.380 So, yeah.
00:01:31.200 Massacre of Banu Kureza.
00:01:32.280 Tell me a bit about it.
00:01:33.860 Well, they had a treaty with the Prophet, Kishikopanim.
00:01:36.920 When he moved to Medina.
00:01:38.340 Yeah, they did.
00:01:39.160 I agree.
00:01:39.940 And they broke the treaty.
00:01:40.540 Yeah, they did.
00:01:41.180 Many times.
00:01:41.760 There was actually many times.
00:01:42.840 No, no.
00:01:43.200 Just once.
00:01:43.800 They didn't broke it many times.
00:01:45.540 No, no.
00:01:45.760 They broke it once.
00:01:48.400 Let's be honest.
00:01:49.020 I've been honest.
00:01:50.460 And I agree myself that it was broken many times.
00:01:53.540 No, no, no.
00:01:54.400 I, as the history which I know, it was only broken once.
00:01:58.520 No, no, no.
00:01:58.860 At the Battle of Ahl.
00:02:01.340 No, no.
00:02:01.660 The Battle of Khanda.
00:02:03.300 Khanda, yeah.
00:02:04.220 Sorry.
00:02:04.940 Yeah.
00:02:05.240 So, what I'm saying is that when I say it was broken many times, not specifically by Banu Kureza.
00:02:11.660 Banu Nadir and Banu Bainu Kha.
00:02:14.440 Kind of.
00:02:15.060 Yeah.
00:02:15.520 So, the thing is, they had treaties to live in peace.
00:02:23.460 They listened to that and they obeyed that.
00:02:26.300 Can you switch off the light?
00:02:30.960 Are you sure?
00:02:31.700 It's okay.
00:02:33.020 It's okay.
00:02:34.800 Because I put it all the way down.
00:02:36.100 You can't even have to say it.
00:02:37.560 There it is.
00:02:38.440 Okay.
00:02:38.740 That's fine.
00:02:39.220 It's okay.
00:02:39.780 Yeah.
00:02:40.060 So, basically, a lot of the Jewish tribes, they stuck to it.
00:02:44.160 But what happened is that Banu Kureza, Banu Nadir and Banu Kainuka, they, first people,
00:02:52.100 they tried to throw a big rock on the Prophet.
00:02:54.600 They did.
00:02:55.180 Yeah.
00:02:55.640 Yeah.
00:02:56.180 So, that was the first thing.
00:02:57.820 Okay.
00:02:58.520 The point is that 835 men.
00:03:02.420 Yes.
00:03:02.920 12-year-old boys.
00:03:04.460 12-year-old.
00:03:05.340 Okay.
00:03:05.520 Because what the Prophet said, if somebody's got hair, yes, people can.
00:03:09.740 Yeah. 1.00
00:03:10.020 Kill him. 1.00
00:03:10.680 They're adults. 1.00
00:03:11.300 No, they're not adults.
00:03:12.240 They're adults.
00:03:12.820 No.
00:03:13.180 They're not adults.
00:03:13.660 What's the definition of adults?
00:03:15.300 Brother, 12-year-old boys have pubic hair.
00:03:17.860 11-year-olds.
00:03:18.820 What do you define as an adult?
00:03:22.000 The definitions are arbitrary.
00:03:24.000 No, no.
00:03:24.460 No.
00:03:24.960 What happened?
00:03:25.720 Today, an adult is different to an adult.
00:03:27.100 So, you know, in Pakistan, they killed, they attacked a school and they killed 500 children.
00:03:33.280 And those 500 children, when the Taliban killed them, they gave the exact justification of Banu Khuraza. 0.54
00:03:40.480 That's a false comparison because, firstly, Taliban going and killing innocent people is wrong from the get-go.
00:03:46.680 From the get-go, it's wrong.
00:03:48.580 If you're going to talk about deaths done by Muslims, what about 1 million people that died in Iraq?
00:03:53.380 I completely agree with you.
00:03:55.120 Thank you.
00:03:55.420 And look, okay, just give me a second.
00:03:59.360 I am not going to justify the imperial killings.
00:04:03.020 I condemn them.
00:04:04.340 And I condemn killings in Iraq, Syria, everywhere. 0.96
00:04:08.140 But I condemn the killings by Muslims. 1.00
00:04:11.960 Okay, do you condemn the killings by Christians? 0.98
00:04:14.040 Yes, I do.
00:04:14.820 And Jews? 0.96
00:04:15.500 And Jews. 0.95
00:04:16.000 Can you be more vocal about them as well?
00:04:17.640 Yes, I will be.
00:04:18.800 Because you're actually very vocal about the Muslims only.
00:04:20.880 No, no, no, no.
00:04:21.540 I'm not vocal about Muslims only. 0.99
00:04:22.920 I would condemn anyone who would kill humanity. 0.96
00:04:26.660 Okay, but why did you say, oh, Muslim? 1.00
00:04:28.860 Because Muslims are a wolf in sheep's clothing. 1.00
00:04:33.140 So I'm a Muslim? 0.99
00:04:33.780 My friend, if I said these things in my country where I was born...
00:04:38.480 Why are you shouting?
00:04:39.720 Okay.
00:04:40.680 Are you drunk by this?
00:04:41.480 Because there's no alcohol in your room.
00:04:42.740 I had a couple of drinks.
00:04:43.740 Yeah, that's fine.
00:04:44.540 But if I did all these things in the country where I was born, I would be killed.
00:04:48.760 I don't understand.
00:04:51.540 What's your point?
00:04:53.180 Because...
00:04:53.660 What's wrong with what happened in Banu Qaraida?
00:04:55.960 I'm trying to understand that.
00:04:56.800 What happened wrong?
00:04:57.680 What are you upset about?
00:04:58.900 No, I'm not upset about it.
00:05:00.540 Okay, 800 men were killed who committed treachery.
00:05:04.480 And that will happen anywhere, any country.
00:05:07.400 Do you think...
00:05:07.840 If Russia broke the treaty with America, every fighting... 0.54
00:05:11.380 Are you a British citizen?
00:05:12.420 Yes, I am.
00:05:12.880 So if you can commit treason, you will...
00:05:16.220 No, they will put you in jail. 0.96
00:05:17.540 No, no, they should put me to death. 0.82
00:05:18.820 No, they won't. 0.99
00:05:19.580 I believe they should.
00:05:20.400 No, they wouldn't.
00:05:21.440 I'm saying no problem.
00:05:23.540 If I commit a treason against my own country, treason is death.
00:05:28.740 What happened to Edward Snowden?
00:05:29.620 And do you know...
00:05:30.380 Edward Snowden.
00:05:31.060 Where's Edward Snowden?
00:05:32.100 Guys, lights hurt his eyes.
00:05:33.680 His eyes get hurt by the light.
00:05:37.120 Be careful.
00:05:37.860 I agree, that's right.
00:05:38.460 Yeah, it's right, it's right.
00:05:39.080 Don't worry. 0.98
00:05:41.120 Because I'm trying to kill man. 0.98
00:05:43.360 Okay, listen.
00:05:44.540 Do you know Battle of Khabar?
00:05:46.140 Yes.
00:05:47.100 So, Safiya's husband was killed in the morning.
00:05:51.000 Yes, her husband, her father...
00:05:52.500 Her father was killed in the evening.
00:05:53.940 Yes.
00:05:54.620 And then she became the wife of the prophet.
00:05:56.560 At her own choice.
00:05:57.460 Even though...
00:05:58.020 At her own choice.
00:05:59.340 The prophet said to her, I can set you free.
00:06:01.560 I know, it's quite funny.
00:06:03.640 Listen, my friend.
00:06:05.000 Yes.
00:06:05.500 Somebody...
00:06:06.700 Do you know a sahabi was standing outside with a sword? 1.00
00:06:11.680 Yes, because she thought that he might kill her.
00:06:13.820 Yes.
00:06:14.320 Yes.
00:06:14.840 So, the prophet said...
00:06:16.420 Sorry.
00:06:17.040 If you want, I can set you free and you can return to your people. 1.00
00:06:22.160 I didn't read that.
00:06:23.380 You go read it in the hadith.
00:06:24.460 You see it.
00:06:25.000 Yeah?
00:06:25.440 Yes.
00:06:25.760 Yes.
00:06:26.080 You can laugh.
00:06:26.660 And actually, Zainab, Zainab, you know, Arabs never used to... 0.95
00:06:31.680 Sir, you're jumping all over the place.
00:06:34.500 You're here, you're there, you're everywhere.
00:06:35.760 I'm trying to catch you.
00:06:36.400 Yeah?
00:06:36.760 Let's just respectfully have a dialogue.
00:06:39.480 You're giving...
00:06:40.040 All you're doing is just throwing stuff that you've heard out of context.
00:06:43.500 Similar stuff that certain ex-Muslims who are real or I don't know if they're fake. 0.98
00:06:47.020 Because a lot of them are fake. 0.57
00:06:48.200 Claim.
00:06:48.760 I'm saying something very simple.
00:06:49.540 I'm an ex-Muslim. 0.94
00:06:50.400 You claim that.
00:06:52.280 How many raqqa is for Fajr?
00:06:54.980 Two.
00:06:55.380 How many is for Fajr?
00:06:57.620 Four.
00:06:58.260 How many is for Mughal? 0.99
00:06:59.560 Three.
00:07:00.160 Okay.
00:07:00.720 Do you know Surah Fatiha?
00:07:02.100 Yeah.
00:07:02.500 Okay.
00:07:02.760 Tell me.
00:07:14.960 Amin.
00:07:15.820 May I guide you back to Islam. 0.97
00:07:16.980 And actually, you know, one of my favorite words.
00:07:20.160 Yeah.
00:07:20.500 I didn't memorize it myself.
00:07:30.460 But yeah, we ask Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to guide me and guide you.
00:07:34.660 All of us.
00:07:35.160 Yeah.
00:07:35.320 And this is a reminder to us that it doesn't matter how much Qur'an you have memorized.
00:07:39.700 The guidance is in the hands of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
00:07:42.160 And we ask Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to guide me and your soul.
00:07:44.320 Let's get to our topic.
00:07:45.360 Yeah.
00:07:45.560 I'm curious.
00:07:46.140 Because there's a lot of people that are fake.
00:07:47.360 They claim something they know.
00:07:48.900 Yeah.
00:07:49.060 I can tell you quite a lot of finance now.
00:07:50.520 I take your work and I believe you since you've proven it.
00:07:53.920 Yeah.
00:07:54.400 So what I'm saying is now, if we want, I can look at the Prophet's life from an angle and
00:08:00.540 say, you know what, this looks a bit, you know, I can assume the worst in everything
00:08:04.980 he does.
00:08:05.640 His marriage to Zainab.
00:08:06.820 His marriage to Aisha.
00:08:07.960 His marriage to Safiya.
00:08:09.480 Yeah.
00:08:09.960 Managed to Khatija as well.
00:08:11.800 That was for money.
00:08:12.460 Khatija.
00:08:13.300 Well, that's what you claim.
00:08:14.320 So anybody that's looking with something to pick will find something.
00:08:18.760 If this was your own father and you knew your father and you knew your father was a good
00:08:23.420 man and he did certain things, you would say, you know what, I know my dad.
00:08:27.020 If my dad did certain things, he did it for a reason.
00:08:31.040 And these are things that we claim to.
00:08:32.880 What happens is when we look at the Prophet's life, we tend to think that, oh, he must have
00:08:38.060 done this for that reason.
00:08:38.800 How do you know?
00:08:39.760 How do you know he married Aisha because he had some kind of lust for a child? 0.80
00:08:42.860 You don't know that.
00:08:44.680 So the point is that when we look at it, the difference between me and you is what?
00:08:49.720 You believe the Prophet married Aisha.
00:08:51.100 I believe he married Aisha.
00:08:52.520 I believe it is married.
00:08:53.480 Can you get a switch off the light, please?
00:08:54.580 There's no light.
00:08:57.300 Guys, don't put the light on, please.
00:08:58.780 Down, down, down, down, down.
00:09:00.500 So the thing is, look, the difference between you as an ex-Muslim and me as a reaver to Islam,
00:09:05.540 I know the same information as you.
00:09:07.760 I'm still a Muslim strong in faith.
00:09:09.860 You're not.
00:09:10.600 What is the difference?
00:09:11.240 Because you know Aisha's marriage, you know Khatija's marriage, you know the Prophet's 0.99
00:09:14.960 words, you know all of that.
00:09:16.100 How is it that you disbelieve and I believe?
00:09:18.240 The point is this.
00:09:19.720 When I look at the matter, I look at it without bias.
00:09:24.400 Because I came to Islam.
00:09:25.520 I came to Islam six, seven years ago.
00:09:27.160 Yeah?
00:09:27.240 But I thought you were Turkish.
00:09:29.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:30.320 But my family, they're his.
00:09:33.360 Yeah?
00:09:33.620 They come from a...
00:09:34.240 My dad's diagnostic.
00:09:35.020 My mom's side is Alawi.
00:09:36.740 So what I'm saying is...
00:09:37.400 Oh, yeah.
00:09:37.660 Alawi.
00:09:38.120 I know Alawis. 0.98
00:09:38.880 They're like insidians. 1.00
00:09:40.440 No, there's Turkish Alawis as well.
00:09:41.860 Yeah?
00:09:42.060 So what I'm saying is, I had to go and research his life in an unbiased source.
00:09:47.180 Because if I start looking at it, oh, your Prophet did this, I did that, oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
00:09:52.120 Look, my friend.
00:09:53.320 So what I'm saying is...
00:09:54.440 You're polite.
00:09:55.680 No, no, no.
00:09:56.080 I want to have a nice discussion.
00:09:57.080 I don't want to shout at you.
00:09:58.440 So what I'm saying is, look, we should look at the life of the Prophet...
00:10:02.780 I did.
00:10:03.940 I'm biased.
00:10:04.860 I did.
00:10:05.480 Okay.
00:10:05.900 There was Turkish.
00:10:07.400 There was...
00:10:07.880 You know how many times?
00:10:09.300 20-year-old.
00:10:10.280 Go away.
00:10:10.740 No, no, no.
00:10:11.220 This is emotional.
00:10:13.400 Look, the Prophet for 13 years was persecuted.
00:10:16.680 Yes.
00:10:17.120 And how many people became Muslim in Mecca?
00:10:20.460 I'll tell you.
00:10:22.020 100.
00:10:23.180 Okay.
00:10:24.040 So in 13...
00:10:25.220 Yeah, true.
00:10:26.720 And we don't know if that's true.
00:10:27.800 Sorry.
00:10:28.400 The Pakistan, I'm sorry. 1.00
00:10:29.900 Sorry.
00:10:30.280 We don't know if that's true.
00:10:31.300 Yeah?
00:10:31.420 I am very...
00:10:34.080 No, no, no.
00:10:34.660 Don't worry.
00:10:35.000 In the Prophet's life, in Mecca, I'm very sure it was more than a hundred.
00:10:39.080 No.
00:10:39.340 When he first created his message, there was nearly as much as that.
00:10:41.720 Yeah?
00:10:42.020 No.
00:10:42.300 There were around a hundred.
00:10:43.300 No way.
00:10:43.700 No way.
00:10:44.100 No way.
00:10:44.700 Allah says in the Quran, indeed, it was them who were attacking me first. 0.98
00:10:48.800 Brother Ali, can I just ask you one question?
00:10:50.920 I'm trying to make a question.
00:10:52.540 Okay.
00:10:53.040 I'll ask you one question.
00:10:54.640 There is a surah in Quran, which is called Surah Al-Fil.
00:10:58.640 Yes.
00:10:58.800 So in that surah, there's a talk about...
00:11:18.040 There's too much light.
00:11:21.160 You can get close if you want.
00:11:22.320 You see, I see what I'm missing from you.
00:11:24.040 So in that surah, there's too much talking about elephants.
00:11:28.660 Yeah.
00:11:28.840 Now, we know in Arab's arid land, elephants couldn't exist.
00:11:33.260 One elephant needs 1,000 liter of water per day, which was not there in Mecca or Surah, Yemen.
00:11:41.880 From Yemen, I've been to Yemen.
00:11:44.260 I've been to Khamis Mashiach.
00:11:45.360 And I've been to all those areas, okay?
00:11:48.380 And there is not a single bone, single bone of an elephant found in the last 3,000 years.
00:11:55.360 They've done archaeological service.
00:11:57.580 So they did archaeological service in the whole of Saudi Arabia?
00:12:00.120 No, not...
00:12:00.920 All of the Arabian Peninsula? 0.62
00:12:02.660 Yeah.
00:12:03.180 To the Arabian Peninsula towards Mecca, going towards Yemen. 0.95
00:12:06.200 So they did a whole archaeological...
00:12:08.280 Well, as far as I could read, yeah.
00:12:10.280 This is...
00:12:10.960 These are...
00:12:11.960 Look, to me, I'll be honest.
00:12:12.800 If we left Islam with these things, I don't mean to be offensive.
00:12:16.760 Yeah.
00:12:17.080 But it's very...
00:12:17.780 It shows a kind of a weak...
00:12:20.080 That's fine.
00:12:21.800 You can call me a vegan.
00:12:22.720 I don't mean to offend you.
00:12:23.320 No, no, no.
00:12:23.660 That's all right.
00:12:24.120 Because the thing is, it's like...
00:12:25.960 I'm a...
00:12:26.360 I'm a...
00:12:27.000 Okay.
00:12:27.220 I understand.
00:12:27.920 Okay.
00:12:28.100 Let's deal with Israel. 0.99
00:12:29.040 You have to forgive me for the church.
00:12:30.560 Yeah, take it, please.
00:12:31.500 Thank you.
00:12:31.660 You're telling me...
00:12:32.760 Yeah.
00:12:32.900 ...that these little things are all this...
00:12:35.380 It's not little.
00:12:36.300 Elephant's going to be in Saudi Arabia. 0.83
00:12:37.980 No, it's not little.
00:12:39.260 They came to Saudi Arabia.
00:12:41.020 I mean, they came to the...
00:12:41.960 It's a divine word.
00:12:44.020 Alamkara kaifa fa'ala rabbuka haab al-fid.
00:12:47.760 One second.
00:12:48.860 How does that show the Quran is not from God
00:12:51.640 when you have no evidence to prove
00:12:53.840 that this occurrence did not happen?
00:12:55.940 You're claiming that elephant needs
00:12:57.520 1,000 meters worth of water a day, apparently.
00:13:00.520 Yeah?
00:13:01.080 They came from another land.
00:13:03.480 Yeah.
00:13:03.640 And there has been no...
00:13:05.400 If the Quran said that the Arabs
00:13:07.660 were riding on elephants,
00:13:09.160 I'll understand you.
00:13:09.940 Ali, Ali, Ali.
00:13:11.580 Humans have been in this world
00:13:13.280 for 40,000 years.
00:13:14.860 Okay?
00:13:15.100 Maybe more.
00:13:16.000 Maybe more.
00:13:16.760 Okay?
00:13:17.320 But the current evidence is 40,000.
00:13:19.840 Okay.
00:13:20.220 10,000 years ago,
00:13:21.460 we started colonizing
00:13:22.720 and we started being communities.
00:13:25.620 Jesus came 2,500 years
00:13:27.540 and then Islam
00:13:28.660 nearly 1,200 later.
00:13:32.620 Okay?
00:13:33.480 Now,
00:13:34.460 my second point
00:13:35.380 is about Hijra Aswad.
00:13:37.420 Well, you see what you...
00:13:38.220 No, no, no.
00:13:38.980 One second.
00:13:39.640 You're going on...
00:13:40.080 Would you let me finish?
00:13:42.060 But you have...
00:13:42.640 I'm making a...
00:13:43.220 I'm replying you.
00:13:44.140 Jump into another...
00:13:44.840 Okay, let me finish.
00:13:46.560 His eyes are really right.
00:13:47.720 Overhead.
00:13:48.340 They call...
00:13:48.700 Do it...
00:13:49.160 Go, go.
00:13:49.560 Do it overhead.
00:13:50.600 Do it behind him.
00:13:51.300 Do it behind him.
00:13:51.720 I've got an eye condition.
00:13:53.460 Do it behind him.
00:13:53.940 If you put a light in my eye,
00:13:55.400 I'll end up blind.
00:13:56.080 Leon, Leon.
00:13:56.260 Leon, Leon.
00:13:56.760 Do it behind him.
00:13:57.780 Right behind him.
00:13:58.400 So, Hijra Aswad.
00:14:08.180 There was like...
00:14:09.320 Two years ago,
00:14:10.140 there was a...
00:14:11.500 A big scientific physics thing
00:14:16.200 going on in King's College.
00:14:18.480 I brought my son as well.
00:14:19.880 We were looking at the astronomy thing.
00:14:22.380 And there was a big black rock.
00:14:23.660 Now, I've done many Umrahs in Hajj.
00:14:25.920 You know, because of my parents.
00:14:28.180 Yes.
00:14:28.880 So, anyway, I looked at that black rock 0.99
00:14:32.120 and suddenly, Eureka.
00:14:33.520 I was like, wow.
00:14:35.260 That just looks like Hijra as well.
00:14:37.820 So, I said to the guy
00:14:39.460 who was standing on the stall,
00:14:40.680 I said, can I touch it?
00:14:42.080 He was like, why do you want to touch it?
00:14:43.380 Because it was in glass.
00:14:44.840 And I said, well, look.
00:14:45.940 I used to be a Muslim.
00:14:47.540 And I've done many Umrahs in Hajj.
00:14:49.820 And every time when we kissed,
00:14:51.280 I just want to get that feeling.
00:14:52.360 I just want to make sure I'm right.
00:14:54.400 He just laughed.
00:14:55.740 And he took it out.
00:14:56.640 I touched it.
00:14:57.920 Absolutely in front.
00:14:59.340 And then I said, black stone.
00:15:00.840 He said, it's just an asteroid.
00:15:03.660 Which probably...
00:15:04.720 So what?
00:15:05.180 It's just an asteroid.
00:15:06.420 Okay.
00:15:07.260 And what's the black stone?
00:15:09.020 Yeah, same.
00:15:09.920 Okay.
00:15:10.520 Yeah.
00:15:10.900 Because black stone was before Islam. 0.98
00:15:13.080 You know about that
00:15:13.800 when they were fighting about building Kaaba
00:15:16.940 and Muhammad went and put that in the thing.
00:15:21.080 And then he put...
00:15:22.140 Yeah.
00:15:22.440 So it was an asteroid which had been there
00:15:24.360 because Kaaba itself,
00:15:26.420 you know,
00:15:26.800 Yeah.
00:15:27.800 So it seems like from your angle,
00:15:32.240 you've come to Banu Qarayda,
00:15:33.780 you've jumped to Sathiyah,
00:15:36.740 you've jumped to Khybar,
00:15:39.680 to Zainab,
00:15:41.000 to wars,
00:15:42.140 to verses,
00:15:43.120 to asteroids,
00:15:44.220 to Karbala,
00:15:45.240 to Banu Umayya,
00:15:46.080 to Banu Umayya,
00:15:47.640 and Banu Hashim.
00:15:48.620 To me,
00:15:49.160 it just shows that
00:15:49.760 you're absolutely
00:15:50.480 all over the place.
00:15:52.340 Yes.
00:15:53.200 I'm being honest
00:15:53.740 because
00:15:54.100 you asked me something,
00:15:55.580 I answered you,
00:15:56.060 you move on to another stuff.
00:15:57.100 So,
00:15:57.660 the thing is with me,
00:15:58.940 it just seems like
00:15:59.680 you just don't want to believe.
00:16:01.520 And because you don't want to believe,
00:16:02.680 you're just making
00:16:03.320 your subconscious mind
00:16:05.180 happy
00:16:06.120 to be like,
00:16:07.440 you know what,
00:16:07.720 I have a valid reason for belief
00:16:08.960 and disbelief
00:16:09.980 and I promise you,
00:16:11.640 you have,
00:16:12.340 and like I said before,
00:16:13.240 everything that you know,
00:16:14.300 I know.
00:16:14.760 I'm a believer,
00:16:15.300 you're a disbeliever. 0.86
00:16:16.660 I used to be.
00:16:17.760 Yes,
00:16:18.200 used to be.
00:16:18.680 And I came from
00:16:19.440 a very religious family.
00:16:20.580 Yes.
00:16:20.840 My dad used to.
00:16:21.780 I came from a non-religious family
00:16:23.220 that hates this family.
00:16:24.420 And I came from
00:16:25.140 a very religious family.
00:16:26.140 That shows you
00:16:26.640 that guidance is
00:16:27.260 in the hands of Allah.
00:16:29.000 It doesn't matter
00:16:29.560 how religious you are,
00:16:30.580 where you are,
00:16:31.000 it's irrelevant.
00:16:31.700 That's the lesson
00:16:32.340 that we learned today.
00:16:33.100 My point is this,
00:16:34.380 these stories,
00:16:35.540 to me,
00:16:35.920 don't mean anything
00:16:36.420 because you're just coming
00:16:37.700 and telling a few stories.
00:16:39.000 I heard this,
00:16:39.400 you haven't even
00:16:39.920 Are you Adnan?
00:16:42.220 Do you know
00:16:42.880 Hussein's killers?
00:16:45.360 Abu Abidah,
00:16:46.400 Abu Abidah,
00:16:47.120 Abu Abidah bin Jarrah's son.
00:16:51.540 And Osman's killer,
00:16:52.580 Mohammed bin Abu Bakr's son.
00:16:54.280 Listen, listen.
00:16:54.920 What you're saying here
00:16:55.900 is irrelevant.
00:16:57.340 You don't believe in God.
00:16:59.300 But it was good
00:16:59.960 to speak to you.
00:17:01.020 One thing I like about you
00:17:02.320 is at least your polize.
00:17:05.780 I'll try to be.
00:17:06.540 I don't want to be rude
00:17:07.160 because I'm not here
00:17:07.960 to win an argument.
00:17:08.580 I just want to have
00:17:09.180 a general conversation.
00:17:10.120 You're polite.
00:17:11.080 You're civil.
00:17:12.120 No, you should be.
00:17:12.800 You should be.
00:17:13.120 You should always be.
00:17:13.720 Not many Muslims are.
00:17:15.000 You should be.
00:17:15.740 Not many non-Muslims are.
00:17:17.400 No.
00:17:17.740 True.
00:17:18.100 You should be.
00:17:18.520 Great.
00:17:19.400 Yeah.
00:17:20.540 How can I ask?
00:17:21.480 How about to guide us both?
00:17:23.400 Yeah?
00:17:23.760 I don't ask Allah
00:17:24.780 to guide me.
00:17:26.200 That's why you're not guided,
00:17:27.680 my friend.
00:17:28.660 You said it with your own mouth.
00:17:29.860 For me,
00:17:33.060 the biggest religion
00:17:33.900 is humanity.
00:17:35.420 I save lives.
00:17:36.820 How do you,
00:17:37.280 well, save lives.
00:17:38.260 What do you mean by save lives?
00:17:39.460 I'm a doctor.
00:17:40.320 That's good.
00:17:41.440 That's good.
00:17:41.900 But we're here to save souls.
00:17:47.340 Take care.
00:17:47.780 Thank you very much.
00:17:48.520 Thanks for your time.
00:17:49.080 Thank you.
00:17:49.340 Thank you.