Ali Dawah - May 29, 2021


FIGHT AT PRO ISRAELI MARCH - WHAT REALLY HAPPENED


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In this episode, we discuss the events that happened in the streets of London on the day of the Gold is Green campaign counter protest against the pro-israeli pro-Israel rally, and the reaction to it.

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00:00:00.000 yeah and and setting effectively almost setting the dogs on us by getting them to bark at us and
00:00:04.500 yeah i don't know if these dogs were going to bite me or not
00:00:06.660 the whole palestine march has been the one of the biggest in well british history uh with
00:00:13.820 200 000 people attending uh and we heard on that day uh because we was doing our campaign which we
00:00:19.340 went to gold is green we went to the general public um and we thought we'd just stop there
00:00:23.400 was that in front of the israeli embassy um and we went there and had engagement with uh
00:00:27.560 through the palestinian protesters and we came to know that a pro-israeli rally was happening the
00:00:32.700 next day so what we did is we said okay look we're not going to go and antagonize them or
00:00:38.360 trying to provoke them but we're going to have our little protest at where we are
00:00:41.620 counter-protest that's what it is and this is what happened
00:00:57.560 so hijab what do you remember from that moment because what i what i remember is
00:01:03.660 we was obviously shouting free free palestine allahu akbar and you know there was a group of
00:01:07.800 people that we did we don't know that just protest is coming and i looked behind me i don't know if
00:01:13.260 you saw first but i saw two individuals walking uh with um i think they had that thing that yeah the
00:01:22.140 the the jewish people were yeah and they had a flag they had their flags on their dogs the israeli
00:01:27.740 flag yeah which again i've said it before i have no problem with the israeli flag being on a dog
00:01:31.680 because i believe that's where it belongs um no i'm being quite i'm being quite honest yeah i didn't
00:01:38.720 i didn't really have a problem with that to be honest some people thought that that's going to
00:01:41.520 provoke us like it'll scare us i was like well this is i mean that's the best place it could be
00:01:45.100 you know you're doing my job for me um so they were walking and i was like hold on a second
00:01:50.040 this is a bit bizarre isn't it like i was i was thinking to myself like it was not just the thing
00:01:54.460 is when they were tugging on the dogs and the dogs were like it's almost as if i'm thinking are these
00:01:58.320 guys trying to set up one of them look like a japanese akita yeah like you know what japanese
00:02:01.720 akita they're quite dangerous but i know that they were vicious yeah they are vicious dogs so i'm
00:02:04.920 thinking they're walking and i'm thinking you have the audacity bro like like come on like and then
00:02:09.020 i see right behind them and wallahi you know i saw a video of joseph is a radical zionist by the way
00:02:15.360 he's an absolute radical zionist who causes islamists i don't know what that means by the way yeah okay 0.88
00:02:19.740 um he's someone who hasn't even condemned an attack that happened in 1946 i had a conversation
00:02:24.940 with him some time ago and i told him to condemn yeah you know it's on the record this is not what
00:02:30.840 is that you're condemning i told him to condemn the 1946 king david a hotel i thought it was let's test
00:02:38.740 this man's consistency because this is universally understood as a terrorist attack by the urgon right
00:02:44.500 who are they uh who are a terrorist organization okay paramilitary group jewish paramilitary group
00:02:50.500 before the establishment of the state of israel 1946 and they killed 91 or 93 people in king david
00:02:57.560 hotel a bomb explosion no they went in with guns there was a whole kind of um plan and they and
00:03:02.460 they killed civilians right so it was uh it was part of their plan and including british white british
00:03:07.840 we're talking and not just palestinians yes palestinians as well but white british as well
00:03:11.200 so they saw that as justifiable because on the grounds of uh trying to retrieve the land that
00:03:16.980 had their own separate jewish state and all that kind of stuff wow so i asked him whether he what he
00:03:21.180 thinks of it and all he was offering with all due respect is actually no due respect no no due respect
00:03:26.480 to him at all so it's a justification he was saying well they called the they called the buildings
00:03:31.240 they call it and the reason why i used that example was because it was a group yeah so it's like for like
00:03:36.280 exactly the same kind of things that you'll see al-qaeda do it was a group that was seen as a
00:03:40.620 terrorist organization by the united states of america by britain by the un etc so once again him
00:03:46.260 using hamas as a terrorist organization is frivolous if he doesn't want to use so if he's being
00:03:51.080 inconsistent yeah right with the fact that even if they do call other people terrorist organizations
00:03:56.180 he wouldn't he wouldn't condemn them anyways let's look at that footage
00:03:58.460 what's the time
00:04:09.480 what do you do
00:04:12.700 oh
00:04:17.200 oh
00:04:28.440 well it's very clear I mean can you imagine if ISIS carried out an attack and I was asked
00:04:51.800 let alone us we went and confronted their very I would say sympathizers yeah so the thing is
00:04:57.860 our stage our apologists apologists exactly yeah our team is an apologist exactly for that so as far
00:05:03.120 as we know we can see the video footage as well guys is that um we're standing there and they're
00:05:07.380 walking to us and I'm thinking wow you have the audacity walking walking towards us to see what
00:05:11.560 it is yeah and they're going forward with their dogs tugging their dogs like almost to set them
00:05:15.880 like get their dogs barking and stuff like that on us yeah yeah I do you know let me because people
00:05:20.660 are this is an international audience right in the UK you're not allowed to carry knives you're not
00:05:25.140 allowed to carry guns yeah it's different in obviously different countries yes um if you're
00:05:29.620 if you're watching this from America you might find that very strange if you get caught with a knife
00:05:33.740 or a gun you can go to prison for a very long time yeah the most dangerous legal weapon in the UK is a
00:05:39.500 dog yes that is the most dangerous legal weapon you can have yeah now obviously a dog is not not meant
00:05:45.620 to be a weapon but you can weaponize a dog quite easily and everyone knows that right yeah so when
00:05:49.700 when you're effectively setting your dog on a group of protesters that are protesting against
00:05:54.620 what like and something antithetical to what you believe in that's that's as good as throwing rocks 0.98
00:06:00.660 at me or yes that's as good as anything yeah and I have every right to damn kill the dog yeah and I 0.98
00:06:05.300 like you said like you said I have a right damn I would I would think about it I'll strangle it now 0.99
00:06:10.420 if I can there's a way to to to to fight a dog and and the truth of the matter is yeah if a dog came to us 0.98
00:06:17.380 trying to bite us you know lock jaw yeah on your neck on your arms on your leg I'm not being funny
00:06:23.940 right but I'm not gonna let this dog kill me yeah I'm not gonna let a few dogs come on me yeah you're
00:06:30.020 setting dogs on me I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be the person I'm just saying that the reason why I
00:06:34.200 said that out loud was very important yeah I've given these guys a warning in front of everybody so
00:06:39.700 that if the dog does come and attack me I've warned everyone I've told them look you do your job or I'm
00:06:44.360 gonna have to defend myself but have you really done that have did you go to the police officer
00:06:47.480 and tell them that you was provoked yes let's find out okay right so they've probably gone
00:06:52.340 before me and basically I have taken the other element away from this area where they have gone 0.99
00:06:56.840 there's a police unit with them and they've been taken away okay thank you you will all be in hell
00:07:00.100 in one because obviously the two things coming together yes I believe there will be his emotions
00:07:04.020 all right so the main thing is trying to calm it all down now and then I can disperse you away
00:07:08.380 from seeing where do you want to go back okay okay we can we can do that's fine what we're gonna
00:07:11.500 do in the next 10 to 15 minutes we'll assess the situation we'll come back and report however I'll
00:07:15.520 tell you one thing yeah there was an error of judgment or some kind of failure of the police
00:07:19.420 hundred percent I will tell you when I'm not saying that they're doing a good job and I'm with them
00:07:23.800 and I'm protecting them and I want to help them and you can see that however when that when those
00:07:27.580 Zionists came in with dogs yeah that was an act of provocation and the fact that the dogs were 1.00
00:07:32.740 themselves you know able to attack and no one you didn't come into contact no no no we didn't
00:07:37.360 we're trying to keep we're telling people so what we're saying now if those dogs get close to us 1.00
00:07:45.640 again and we will kill those dogs and put them down in front of everybody listen let's do it carefully 0.98
00:07:52.360 now because I see that as an act of aggression anyone who has dogs in our lefty area everyone 1.00
00:07:57.880 who's involved in the altercation then I fully understand so okay it was very clear that you
00:08:03.380 actually went to the police officer he actually came to us if you remember yeah because after
00:08:07.240 this happened and there's a few few things he mentions there when you see it he he um he told
00:08:12.380 us that for example you said you said to him that you was provoked these companies you're not doing
00:08:15.880 your job properly or maybe it was a mishap whatever it may be and if you notice the the the police
00:08:20.200 officer said something strange he goes he says I have taken the other element away from this area
00:08:25.100 what were they talking about so yeah this is exactly the point because if you notice the
00:08:31.860 the israeli section right you are not allowed to we're not allowed to go into that place because
00:08:35.940 obviously it could cause conflict yeah so there had to be consistency on both sides because with the
00:08:41.220 counter demonstration if if they were allowed to come to our areas okay and we were not allowed to
00:08:48.240 go to their areas then there would be a disparity in the way that the rules are being applied yeah
00:08:52.220 so the fact that they came in with dogs provoking a group of people right and with flags yeah and
00:08:59.520 and setting effectively almost setting the dogs on us by getting them to bark at us and yeah i don't
00:09:04.160 know if these dogs were going to bite me or not exactly you know what i mean you know what's
00:09:06.720 interesting do you remember we all had to run there was a commotion happening we run to the other
00:09:10.020 side yes and do you remember what what it was is that they're you know these guys they were they
00:09:16.720 were continually trying to come into the area yeah that's what i'm saying that's what the when the
00:09:20.460 officers said we uh moved away that um other element the element do you remember when we went to the
00:09:25.620 other side we run with them yeah there was a israeli march coming from the other side to block us in
00:09:30.760 what we tried to actually do is we tried to get our people to go back into their area yes in fact
00:09:36.300 there's footage for that we can take a look at the footage guys get back into your area
00:09:40.260 so you saw their brothers and sisters that we was actually controlling that and not only that
00:09:50.880 we had the israeli protests in front of us the terrorist state protesters a baby killer
00:09:55.240 sympathizers in front of us and then after these dogs came and this and and jose what the hell are 0.90
00:10:00.020 they celebrating anyway no no what they said they're celebrating the killing of babies as simple as that 0.97
00:10:03.860 and then when the dog situation happened and joseph came and ran away like a little coward like a little
00:10:08.360 dog there was actually three dogs there there was two dogs and there was joseph yeah and when he ran
00:10:11.960 yeah when he ran if you remember on the right hand side the police officers had to stop a group of
00:10:17.300 israeli protesters marching towards us that is what the office is talking about when he said the other
00:10:21.820 element we moved them away because they were trying to sandwich us in if you remember so you can see
00:10:26.760 they were outright provoking us now when the protest ended brothers and sisters you if you remember we was
00:10:32.420 marching and we saw a commotion we went there we saw a group of our brothers and sisters who were
00:10:36.380 protesting and what did you say to them go back into the space
00:10:40.380 so all in all brothers and sisters what you see in that footage as well and this little mini
00:10:47.460 documentary that we did is what happened on the day and how it went yeah now not only that for example
00:10:52.520 it's very clear that for example joseph is he's a radical zionist is one of those individuals that we
00:10:59.240 saw at gold is green some of those individuals who clearly mocked the dead bodies of children by saying
00:11:05.460 is this afghanistan you know um and walking past and saying they killed their selves and not only
00:11:11.400 that this is such an embarrassment and this is such the world is globally seeing what these zionists 1.00
00:11:18.140 about yeah and what's happening is this label of anti-semitism is being labeled when there is
00:11:24.200 dissent expressed in the united states against policies of the israeli government um uh people
00:11:31.140 here are called anti-semitic what is your response to that as an israeli june well it's a trick we
00:11:37.240 always use it when from europe somebody is criticizing israel then we bring up the holocaust when in this
00:11:44.860 country people are criticizing israel then there are anti-semitic now i know what they do because i
00:11:51.280 used to ask them to do it i mean when i was in the musad and we had a guy that gave us problems in the u.s
00:11:57.980 and he was speaking out and he was talking like like pete talked once and said israel is bombing
00:12:04.300 lebanon with cluster bombs we say hey who's that guy you know and of course the campaign starts and
00:12:11.900 before you know it the guy's labeled and he's an anti-semitic because that's what we say he is
00:12:18.820 and joseph and his you know he was going to make me cry you know if you think about it you know we as
00:12:24.320 jews we don't know if we can be safe the uk doesn't feel like a safe place for jews anymore what do you 1.00
00:12:29.100 mean by safe do you mean we can be safe by you know your country your state bombing innocent people
00:12:33.540 and if we speak out against it against it we become an anti-semitic so we don't buy that nonsense yeah
00:12:39.440 we are not buying that nonsense and nobody's going to buy it the whole world can see the oppression that
00:12:43.400 you guys are doing and you saw how they twisted the story to make it seem as these two and what
00:12:48.600 joseph said a few jewish boys who were trying to join the rally took a wrong turn we just took a
00:12:53.780 wrong turn we just took can you imagine if me and you with dogs went to the other side what would
00:12:58.120 have happened to us finished guys that's it i don't know that's all i have to say is there anything else
00:13:03.240 you would like to say that's all that's it guys uh and you saw that the real picture of what happened
00:13:07.840 with cameras with footage us talking to police officers and not only that um hijab exactly not only that
00:13:14.240 hijab hijab using certain words they're giving reminder about death is when life begins for us 1.00
00:13:18.760 being twisted guys once again disperse let the traffic flow now let the traffic flow
00:13:26.500 do not provoke violence this antagonizes they're looking for any small petty victory to change
00:13:33.760 public opinion public opinion has already changed this is the most monumentous time
00:13:39.700 in history where social media and the internet has effectively changed public opinion if we do any
00:13:47.100 small act here it will be blown out of proportion and they will use it to hate us and to scapegoat
00:13:53.400 the entire situation of the cause our actions here have a huge implication don't get excited if
00:13:59.200 you're excited go to the gym honestly go to the gym you're not helping anyone yeah or get married
00:14:06.860 we'll get the most documentary all right guys it's been a pleasure remember now the fight is online
00:14:16.060 that is where the fight is keep active online don't get excited and then just let it simmer
00:14:22.340 no let's continue the pressure on these organizations and on these people we are winning do not spoil it
00:14:30.940 with any bad behavior so when the protest ended we saw a group of youngsters going and carrying on and we
00:14:36.200 said look it's time to disperse guys uh inshallah it's and and you saw that for yourself inshallah 0.98
00:14:40.380 we're not there because we know people like radical zionists like this uh scumbag will look for any 1.00
00:14:46.280 excuse and you know what's very interesting he watches our um video that we did our campaign in 0.95
00:14:51.500 gold is green and he talks about everything except what those two individuals said
00:14:56.600 and he doesn't even at this point he hasn't even condemned he hasn't been killed thank you very much
00:15:12.540 unless on the end of that note somebody not condemning the killing of innocent children dying is as good
00:15:19.120 as the one walking by and saying they killed their self this joseph and that's why he doesn't have the
00:15:24.700 face to come to the park you know because he he i will see it to his face shame on you and that's
00:15:28.840 what i did i could see the fear in his eyes that day yeah you can see on the camera yeah it was like a
00:15:31.900 little coward yeah he he had to run away these islamists call us whatever you like yeah okay 0.83
00:15:36.400 no problem what it is did you watch that and you are too concerned about going to gold is green and 0.98
00:15:40.820 using our freedom of speech to have a dialogue with the the zionists or the jewish community at large 0.98
00:15:44.720 we don't know all jews are like you we know all of them are not like you but we saw a few that 0.85
00:15:49.200 would like you and they make us sick yeah okay you academic unique
00:15:53.180 brown sisters hope you enjoy this video inshallah share this far and wide so people can see what
00:16:00.180 really happened on those days when these so-called zionist radicals took a wrong left turn you know
00:16:06.240 we made them take a right right turn
00:16:08.200 we made them take a right turn you know