Ali Dawah - October 28, 2019


HOLY SPIRITED LADY & ALI DEBATE MERCY - SPEAKERS CORNER


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In this episode, we discuss the concept of mercy in Islam and how it can be obtained in this world and in the final day of judgement, when we will be judged by Allah. We also talk about what it means to ask for mercy and how to receive it.

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00:00:01.000 Your belief is that the Father, the God, you have a personal relationship with the Father.
00:00:05.000 Yes, I do.
00:00:06.000 The Father is saying, in order for you to have salvation, you have to believe that I took an innocent man
00:00:13.000 who did nothing wrong to anybody. I need his blood to forgive you.
00:00:17.000 Mercy is a...
00:00:31.000 Okay, so I'm interested, I can ask your viewers as well. I'm interested in knowing how do you obtain mercy in Islam.
00:00:38.000 Because you're sharing, affection, love and mercy. I'm just interested in the mercy aspect of Islam.
00:00:45.000 Yeah, I would say, look, the way I understand mercy from the Islamic perspective is
00:00:50.000 mercy is not like a final state that you aim to reach.
00:00:56.000 There's two types of mercy. There's mercy that you can obtain in this world
00:01:00.000 and there's the final mercy that you're probably talking about, which you will obtain on a day of judgment
00:01:05.000 or, you know, the final day.
00:01:09.000 Mercy is not like something that is final, but it's more of a practice in Islam, a process.
00:01:19.000 Okay.
00:01:20.000 You continuously seek mercy by asking the Almighty God or Allah.
00:01:31.000 And so it's...
00:01:34.000 Mercy actually is like a development and it develops the character and also it's an evolution.
00:01:42.000 The more you do it, the easier it becomes for you, you know, to seek mercy.
00:01:49.000 And it's...
00:01:50.000 But if you want to get technical with it, mercy is in three parts.
00:01:56.000 So in order to obtain mercy or willing to want mercy, it means that sometime down the line you've committed a sin, right?
00:02:10.000 And in Islam, what you do is that you...
00:02:13.000 First of all, you have to reject the act of sinning.
00:02:17.000 Okay.
00:02:18.000 Or the particular sin, whatever you've done.
00:02:20.000 And once you've done that, you have to have the determination not to go back, even though if you...
00:02:25.000 Even though there might be a possibility that you might go back, but at that point when you have made that decision,
00:02:29.000 you decide not to go back again.
00:02:31.000 Okay.
00:02:32.000 So do you believe that every single human being...
00:02:36.000 Yeah. 0.86
00:02:37.000 He's a sinner. 1.00
00:02:41.000 He's a sinner. 0.99
00:02:42.000 Yeah, I do believe that.
00:02:43.000 That's our belief.
00:02:44.000 So every single human being needs mercy.
00:02:48.000 Yeah.
00:02:49.000 You will need to have...
00:02:50.000 Yeah, you need mercy.
00:02:51.000 So what do your scriptures say about obtaining mercy?
00:02:54.000 Like I said, you ask for it.
00:02:57.000 You ask for it.
00:02:58.000 You ask for it.
00:03:00.000 And how are you guaranteed that you receive this mercy?
00:03:04.000 Is there a guarantee?
00:03:05.000 There is a...
00:03:07.000 Well, there are certain hadiths that quite...
00:03:10.000 Sorry, what's a hadith?
00:03:11.000 Narration.
00:03:12.000 Sorry.
00:03:13.000 It's a narration, a transmission that comes from the Prophet.
00:03:18.000 Okay.
00:03:19.000 His saints.
00:03:20.000 His saints.
00:03:21.000 Right.
00:03:22.000 Very beautiful ones, in fact.
00:03:24.000 For example, there's one where it says, the Prophet says that Allah says,
00:03:28.000 even if you were to come with sins as high as the sky, like as in, I would still forgive you.
00:03:35.000 Okay.
00:03:37.000 So mercy is not a door that is closed ever until you enter the grave.
00:03:43.000 Okay.
00:03:44.000 So that's what I was saying.
00:03:45.000 It's a process.
00:03:46.000 You keep doing it.
00:03:47.000 Okay.
00:03:48.000 Yeah.
00:03:49.000 So, but when you ask...
00:03:50.000 Yeah.
00:03:51.000 In Islam, when you ask God for something...
00:03:52.000 Yeah.
00:03:53.000 Do you have a guaranteed proof that you're going to receive what you've asked for?
00:03:58.000 Yeah.
00:03:59.000 No, no, no, no.
00:04:00.000 Yeah.
00:04:01.000 I would...
00:04:02.000 No, go ahead, go ahead.
00:04:03.000 Okay.
00:04:04.000 So the thing is, it's...
00:04:05.000 No, stay here.
00:04:06.000 No.
00:04:07.000 So the thing is, it's...
00:04:08.000 Now, when you mean guaranteed...
00:04:09.000 Yeah.
00:04:10.000 We...
00:04:11.000 The deeds, we are told to do good deeds.
00:04:13.000 Yeah.
00:04:14.000 But our good deeds are not what's going to lead us to paradise.
00:04:17.000 Okay.
00:04:18.000 Because from the get-go, we are indebted to God.
00:04:21.000 So from the day that we're born...
00:04:23.000 Yeah.
00:04:24.000 We are indebted to God.
00:04:25.000 How?
00:04:26.000 Okay.
00:04:27.000 Nothing that we can do could be enough for...
00:04:30.000 For us to say, you know what, God, we've repaid you back for what you've done for us.
00:04:34.000 Okay.
00:04:35.000 Because there is a hadith, a narration, a saying of the prophet, peace be upon him.
00:04:38.000 He told us that on the day of judgment, a man will come.
00:04:40.000 And he will say to God Almighty, I would like to enter paradise with my good deeds.
00:04:44.000 Yeah, that's a good one.
00:04:45.000 I do not want to enter paradise with your mercy.
00:04:48.000 I trust my good deeds, they're good enough.
00:04:49.000 Okay.
00:04:50.000 God says, okay, no problem.
00:04:51.000 I want to enter you to paradise with my mercy.
00:04:54.000 Yeah.
00:04:55.000 But you want to enter paradise with good deeds.
00:04:56.000 So what he did is, he took that man's eye, put it on the scales, got all of the good deeds that he did, and the eye outweighed all his good deeds.
00:05:03.000 Okay.
00:05:04.000 What we learn from that is the following.
00:05:06.000 Is that...
00:05:07.000 Oh yeah, sorry, just to finish it off.
00:05:09.000 He said, God Almighty said, well now you're destined to hell.
00:05:12.000 Yeah.
00:05:13.000 Because I'm being just.
00:05:14.000 This is my justice.
00:05:15.000 My justice means that the eye that you have, your good deeds, if you did it eternally, will never repay me back for the eye that I've given you.
00:05:21.000 The blessing and the mercy of the eye.
00:05:22.000 Okay.
00:05:23.000 So when he was...
00:05:24.000 When God said to him, go to hell, he said, God, please I want to enter paradise with your mercy.
00:05:29.000 Yeah.
00:05:30.000 Because he understood that with justice, he's indebted.
00:05:32.000 Yeah.
00:05:33.000 So that's the reason why, we as human beings, from the get-go, we, there is nothing that we can do to repay God.
00:05:39.000 Okay.
00:05:40.000 But what God wants from us is to acknowledge him.
00:05:42.000 Okay.
00:05:43.000 To acknowledge that there is him and him alone.
00:05:45.000 How do you, how do you obtain mercy in Christianity?
00:05:47.000 Do you have to believe that Jesus died for the sins?
00:05:49.000 I am the way, I am the life, I am the truth.
00:05:52.000 Nobody comes to the Father except through me.
00:05:54.000 Okay.
00:05:55.000 I want to ask a simple question, sister.
00:05:56.000 Tell me which is more merciful.
00:05:58.000 In Islam, God tells us that if you sin and your sins are to reach the mountains and the skies, I will forgive every single one of them, as long as you don't associate partners with me. 0.99
00:06:08.000 No blood sacrifice.
00:06:09.000 No innocent person has to die.
00:06:11.000 Christianity.
00:06:12.000 The only way I will forgive the sins is that I need blood sacrifice of an innocent man.
00:06:17.000 Talking about mercy, can you kindly tell me which one seems more merciful to you and why?
00:06:22.000 Jesus Christ's whole being was to be born and to die.
00:06:28.000 That was his purpose.
00:06:30.000 For my sins.
00:06:31.000 Because for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only begotten son.
00:06:36.000 Yeah.
00:06:37.000 The whomsoever shall believe.
00:06:39.000 That's everybody, anyone, white, black, Indian, Chinese, do anybody.
00:06:45.000 Yeah.
00:06:46.000 It is, the door is open to anyone.
00:06:49.000 Yeah.
00:06:50.000 It's whoever wants him now.
00:06:52.000 Okay.
00:06:53.000 There's no discrimination.
00:06:54.000 Okay.
00:06:55.000 Yeah.
00:06:56.000 Everybody's invited.
00:06:57.000 Yeah.
00:06:58.000 Yeah.
00:06:59.000 You either accept him now while you're walking or you'll pay the consequences later.
00:07:03.000 Okay.
00:07:04.000 So which one, from what I said, Christianity, the God of Christianity requires blood sacrifice. 0.99
00:07:10.000 That's key element.
00:07:11.000 In Islam, nobody needs to die.
00:07:13.000 There is no blood sacrifice needed.
00:07:15.000 All you have to do is ask for repentance and you're forgiven.
00:07:17.000 That's why you don't have, that's why you don't have a guarantee that you can, I can
00:07:21.000 die for my truth.
00:07:22.000 But you don't know if it's the truth.
00:07:24.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:07:25.000 Yeah.
00:07:26.000 Me, I can offer up myself to die, not to go and kill other people in the name of Jesus.
00:07:33.000 Yeah.
00:07:34.000 Of course.
00:07:35.000 Understand what I'm saying.
00:07:36.000 Yeah.
00:07:37.000 Me, I can die for me myself.
00:07:38.000 Yes.
00:07:39.000 For the truth that I believe in.
00:07:41.000 Yes.
00:07:42.000 Jesus Christ is life.
00:07:43.000 He's the way.
00:07:44.000 He's the truth.
00:07:45.000 And I can't get to God without him.
00:07:46.000 Yeah.
00:07:47.000 Jesus Christ is a guarantee. 1.00
00:07:48.000 I understand.
00:07:49.000 Without Jesus Christ.
00:07:50.000 Yes.
00:07:51.000 Without Jesus Christ, I have no guarantee.
00:07:53.000 Okay.
00:07:54.000 So what I'm saying, sisters, forgive me.
00:07:55.000 Maybe.
00:07:56.000 You're not an insurance.
00:07:57.000 If it's true.
00:07:58.000 I'm saying, sister, look, I repeat again.
00:08:01.000 The God of Islam says, no blood is needed for me.
00:08:04.000 Mm-hmm.
00:08:05.000 No innocent person needs to die for me.
00:08:07.000 Mm-hmm.
00:08:08.000 You sin, you repent.
00:08:09.000 Mm-hmm.
00:08:10.000 Not only when you sin and you repent, God turns all your bad deeds into good deeds.
00:08:13.000 Right, okay.
00:08:14.000 No, no, no.
00:08:15.000 Can I just finish one second?
00:08:16.000 No, no, no.
00:08:17.000 Can I just finish one second?
00:08:18.000 Because you're talking of God.
00:08:19.000 No, can I just say something?
00:08:20.000 No, because you talk of God as God.
00:08:21.000 I talk of God as a father.
00:08:22.000 Can I just finish this?
00:08:24.000 Can I just finish this?
00:08:25.000 No, no, no.
00:08:26.000 You talk of God as God.
00:08:27.000 I am talking of God as a father.
00:08:28.000 So let me tell you the difference.
00:08:29.000 Let me explain because I know where you're going, yeah?
00:08:31.000 But you didn't answer my question.
00:08:32.000 When you're in your household.
00:08:33.000 Yeah.
00:08:34.000 If your father gives you an instruction.
00:08:36.000 Yes.
00:08:37.000 And you disobey.
00:08:38.000 Yes.
00:08:39.000 Does he just say, oh, my son, it's okay, I'm not going to punish you.
00:08:41.000 You've been well done.
00:08:42.000 You've done well.
00:08:43.000 Maybe.
00:08:44.000 Or does he give you a...
00:08:45.000 Is there...
00:08:46.000 No, maybe.
00:08:47.000 He can forgive me.
00:08:48.000 He can forgive me.
00:08:49.000 So you grow up without any discipline then?
00:08:50.000 No, not really.
00:08:51.000 If I'm...
00:08:52.000 For God disciplines those whom he loves.
00:08:53.000 Okay.
00:08:54.000 Okay.
00:08:55.000 So listen, listen to me.
00:08:56.000 So listen...
00:08:57.000 No, no, no.
00:08:58.000 Listen to me.
00:08:59.000 Yeah.
00:09:00.000 God is everyone's God.
00:09:01.000 Yes.
00:09:02.000 As a creator.
00:09:03.000 Yes.
00:09:04.000 But he's only a father to those who choose him to be a father.
00:09:07.000 Okay.
00:09:08.000 Okay.
00:09:09.000 Okay.
00:09:10.000 I'm saying, sister.
00:09:11.000 Okay.
00:09:12.000 So there's a difference.
00:09:13.000 I understand.
00:09:14.000 So you're talking about God the creator.
00:09:15.000 I talk about God the father.
00:09:16.000 Okay, sister.
00:09:17.000 What I'm saying is, okay, you have God the father.
00:09:18.000 And my father can correct me.
00:09:19.000 No problem.
00:09:20.000 Same with us.
00:09:21.000 Same with us.
00:09:22.000 But what I'm saying is, look, please hear me out.
00:09:23.000 Your belief is that the father, the God, you have a personal relationship with him with
00:09:26.000 the father.
00:09:27.000 Yes, I do.
00:09:28.000 The father's saying, in order for you to have salvation, you have to believe that I took
00:09:34.000 an innocent man who did nothing wrong to anybody.
00:09:37.000 Yeah.
00:09:38.000 I need his blood to forgive you.
00:09:39.000 Yeah, because it loves me.
00:09:40.000 Okay.
00:09:41.000 Okay.
00:09:42.000 Okay.
00:09:43.000 So let me explain to you why.
00:09:44.000 But look at the love and mercy in Islam.
00:09:45.000 Because you came today and asked about mercy and love.
00:09:46.000 In Islam, God doesn't say to me, Ali, I need you to believe that I require blood sacrifice
00:09:52.000 and I'm going to kill an innocent man.
00:09:54.000 God says to me, Ali, all you have to do is say, there's three conditions to repentance. 0.78
00:09:59.000 You stop the sin, you hate the sin, and you don't go back to the sin.
00:10:03.000 That is it.
00:10:04.000 So Ali, that means you believe that from this, so what you're saying to me is-
00:10:08.000 That's mercy.
00:10:09.000 That's mercy.
00:10:10.000 No, what you're saying to me is when you sin today, Father, forgive me, I sinned, forgive
00:10:14.000 me.
00:10:15.000 Yeah.
00:10:16.000 That means for the rest of your life, you've never sin again.
00:10:17.000 No, I can't, but I'll return back to repentance.
00:10:18.000 Do not.
00:10:19.000 No, no.
00:10:20.000 Hold on.
00:10:21.000 Hold on.
00:10:22.000 So, which means you're going to be, you're going to be repenting for the rest of your life.
00:10:25.000 Yes.
00:10:26.000 Yes.
00:10:27.000 Yes.
00:10:28.000 Okay.
00:10:29.000 No blood, no death.
00:10:30.000 Yes.
00:10:31.000 So, my God knows that I'm a sinner.
00:10:32.000 Yes.
00:10:33.000 And I accept that I'm a sinner. 0.55
00:10:34.000 My punishment is death.
00:10:35.000 My punishment is hell. 0.73
00:10:36.000 That's not mercy.
00:10:37.000 Okay.
00:10:38.000 So, my God came to die for me, in my place.
00:10:41.000 So, God died?
00:10:42.000 Listen.
00:10:43.000 Come on.
00:10:44.000 Listen.
00:10:45.000 He took my punishment that I deserve.
00:10:47.000 God?
00:10:48.000 Yes.
00:10:49.000 So, God died?
00:10:50.000 My God died for me, in my place.
00:10:52.000 So, it's still you?
00:10:53.000 My God, hold on.
00:10:54.000 Yeah.
00:10:55.000 Before you talk about sacrifice, he did not take an innocent man.
00:10:58.000 Jesus, forgive me.
00:10:59.000 Yes.
00:11:00.000 I'm asking a simple question.
00:11:01.000 In Islam, nobody has to die.
00:11:02.000 Look, he came here today and he said, I want to know, what does mercy mean in Islam?
00:11:07.000 If no one has to die, then you have no guarantee of your forgiveness.
00:11:10.000 Ah, good.
00:11:11.000 You have no guarantee of mercy.
00:11:12.000 You have no guarantee of your time of life.
00:11:14.000 Sister.
00:11:15.000 Sister.
00:11:16.000 You came and asked today, what is mercy in Islam?
00:11:17.000 Mercy in Islam is that no blood is required.
00:11:20.000 Nobody needs to die.
00:11:21.000 You sin. 1.00
00:11:22.000 Why do Muslims go out killing people in the name of Allah? 1.00
00:11:24.000 Okay, good. 0.98
00:11:25.000 What's that all about?
00:11:26.000 Sister.
00:11:27.000 If somebody goes and kills, for example, Lord's Resistance Army in Central Africa. 0.99
00:11:30.000 They kill Muslims. 1.00
00:11:31.000 Not only do they kill them, they burn them and eat them. 1.00
00:11:33.000 In the name of Christ. 0.99
00:11:35.000 I've never heard of that.
00:11:36.000 Lord's Resistance Army, Central Africa.
00:11:38.000 I've never heard of that.
00:11:39.000 Okay.
00:11:40.000 Are you responsible for that?
00:11:41.000 But that's not in the Bible.
00:11:42.000 The Bible doesn't teach that.
00:11:43.000 Yes, it does.
00:11:44.000 No. 0.99
00:11:45.000 1 Samuel 15, verse 2-3, it says, go to the Amalekites, kill men, women, children, babies and donkeys. 0.99
00:11:51.000 Nowhere in the Quran does it say such statement. 0.98
00:11:54.000 So, the Jews, because they were sinful people, they were sinful nations. 1.00
00:12:00.000 So you're justifying the killing of babies and children and donkeys. 0.99
00:12:03.000 Are you justifying that?
00:12:04.000 If they won't accept God's way, who are you man to question God?