Ali Dawah - September 19, 2016


ISLAM OR SIKHISM？ ALI DAWAH & SIKHI ｜｜ SPEAKERS CORNER


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In this episode, we have a discussion about the origin of the truth and how it came from the Quran and why it has been corrupted since the beginning of time. We also talk about how the truth came to Islam and why we believe it is the true truth.

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00:00:00.000 Al-Fatihah 0.55
00:00:30.000 I think the main thing is this, yeah, is that if we look into it, I'm really sorry, the thing is because we're going back and forth, the main thing we do is very simple, we talk with the Christians as well, we go to the scriptures, we go to the Quran, we go to your religious scriptures, if the scriptures, if we can prove that the Quran is from Allah, the matter of Tawheed, what you say, oh is this right or wrong, we take it all, like for example, if I prove to you the Quran is from Allah, you can't pick and choose what you like, whatever I show to you, and I say for example Tawheed is worshipping Allah in his powers and everything that he does, singling out Allah in worship, his name is an attribute,
00:01:00.000 when we go to the scriptures, and if I prove to you, my scripture is correct, you can't say, and same with you, same with you, yeah?
00:01:06.000 Ali, sorry because I know your name, yeah, you can't, I don't know your name, what's your name? Jagraj, how do you say your name? Jagraj, like a jag and then the raj. Jagraj, I like it, I like it.
00:01:13.000 Alright, so look, I don't know, what's your name?
00:01:14.000 Ali, Mohammed.
00:01:15.000 Oh, nice to meet you, Mohammed.
00:01:16.000 You too.
00:01:17.000 Jagraj, yeah?
00:01:18.000 Jagraj.
00:01:19.000 You're the last guy, man.
00:01:20.000 Okay, look.
00:01:21.000 Jagraj.
00:01:22.000 The thing is, yeah, is...
00:01:23.000 Sorry, man.
00:01:24.000 It's just because you're big.
00:01:25.000 Well, let me just explain something to you, right?
00:01:27.000 What comes out from talking to you...
00:01:29.000 Yes, go ahead.
00:01:30.000 ...is that you were talking about how come it came later and not at the beginning.
00:01:34.000 But in a way, many Muslims are kind of making a very similar argument that...
00:01:38.000 And it may be that you say, oh no, no, that's not true, but it's another way.
00:01:41.000 But it's a very similar argument that the truth came with the Prophet Mohammed because everybody else was corrupted. 0.89
00:01:47.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:01:48.000 You've misunderstood.
00:01:49.000 Listen, it's very similar to my argument.
00:01:51.000 No, it's not.
00:01:52.000 Because you said all the other scriptures got corrupted, but they had the truth. 1.00
00:01:54.000 Can I tell you...
00:01:55.000 We, hold on, because at the beginning of Guru Granth Sajjid, because you seem to have read Ajuni, right?
00:01:59.000 That's at the beginning, yeah?
00:02:00.000 You might have heard the other word.
00:02:01.000 Saj means truth, which is at the beginning, at the beginning of time.
00:02:07.000 God is such, isn't it?
00:02:08.000 God is such.
00:02:09.000 And then Sikhi is such.
00:02:10.000 And that's from the Quran, by the way.
00:02:11.000 Sikhi is such as well, at the beginning of time.
00:02:12.000 And then, at the time, when time started, then Sikhi was also true.
00:02:16.000 And then now it's true, and forever it will be true.
00:02:18.000 Okay, but you're saying it's an ascitation.
00:02:20.000 No, no.
00:02:21.000 A Sikh believes that the Sikh view was true from the beginning.
00:02:24.000 Only thing is, some people did have access to that truth.
00:02:26.000 Yes.
00:02:27.000 For example, I'll give you an example of a guy that found the truth.
00:02:29.000 Yeah.
00:02:30.000 Mansoor was a Sufi. 0.92
00:02:31.000 Yeah?
00:02:32.000 Unfortunately for Mansoor, he stood up one day, opened up his jacket and he goes,
00:02:35.000 An al-Haqq. 0.95
00:02:36.000 And he blew himself up?
00:02:37.000 No, no, no.
00:02:38.000 He opened his jacket and he goes, I am one with the truth.
00:02:40.000 I am the truth.
00:02:41.000 He didn't get blown up.
00:02:42.000 He got killed in a very terrible way by the Islamic terrorists at that time. 0.84
00:02:45.000 They killed him.
00:02:46.000 They chopped him into pieces for saying that he is the truth.
00:02:48.000 And he was saying, I'm one with God now.
00:02:50.000 So this way has been around in every way.
00:02:52.000 Okay.
00:02:53.000 So it's not that we're saying that we're the only ones that found it.
00:02:55.000 We're just saying that the Guru gave it in a perfect way.
00:02:58.000 Are you saying why did the truth, if it was there from the beginning,
00:03:01.000 why did it come like 1600 years ago as the Quran?
00:03:05.000 Is that what you're saying?
00:03:06.000 Because I said that earlier.
00:03:07.000 You said scriptures got corrupted.
00:03:08.000 Okay, can I tell you why?
00:03:09.000 I said prophets got corrupted.
00:03:10.000 Okay, let me tell you why.
00:03:11.000 Okay.
00:03:12.000 The truth is that we believe in Islam.
00:03:14.000 Islam has been there from day one.
00:03:16.000 That's what you believe.
00:03:17.000 Not what we believe.
00:03:18.000 No, no, no.
00:03:19.000 Okay, you don't believe.
00:03:20.000 I'm telling you why.
00:03:21.000 I never told you to believe that.
00:03:22.000 So what I'm trying to say is Islam has been there from day one.
00:03:24.000 That's why when we say Jesus was a Muslim, the Christians get confused.
00:03:27.000 They're like, what do you mean he was a Muslim?
00:03:28.000 You're not understanding what I mean.
00:03:30.000 The one who submits his will to God is a Muslim. 1.00
00:03:33.000 Because Jesus says, I do not see...
00:03:34.000 We have a very similar concept.
00:03:35.000 He says, I don't see nothing for myself.
00:03:37.000 That's what you say.
00:03:38.000 Because Jesus says in the scripture, I don't see nothing for myself.
00:03:41.000 I don't see nothing for myself.
00:03:42.000 As I hear...
00:03:43.000 Guys, please, if I can make my point here.
00:03:45.000 So Jesus was a Muslim. 0.85
00:03:46.000 So what we see is, God Almighty existed.
00:03:48.000 He sent down prophets, yes?
00:03:50.000 And with some of the prophets and messengers, he gave them scriptures.
00:03:53.000 Those scriptures were meant for those people at that time.
00:03:57.000 So what happened is, once a scripture came, it would prophesied...
00:03:59.000 That's not nice.
00:04:00.000 The time is recorded.
00:04:01.000 Have some decency.
00:04:02.000 Learn from the brother at some manners.
00:04:03.000 Yeah?
00:04:04.000 I'm watching you carefully.
00:04:05.000 Anyway, sorry.
00:04:06.000 So what I'm trying to say...
00:04:07.000 I'm so sorry, forgive me.
00:04:08.000 So the prophet comes, the messenger comes with a scripture.
00:04:10.000 Yeah, the one that was a perfect messenger.
00:04:12.000 For those specific times, because if God Almighty finished in his plan,
00:04:16.000 there was other prophets that were going to come.
00:04:18.000 Other messengers were going to come.
00:04:19.000 So for example, with the Old Testament, the Old Testament was given to Moses,
00:04:22.000 with the Ten Commandments, etc.
00:04:24.000 Right, right.
00:04:25.000 And it was prophesied of another prophet that will come.
00:04:26.000 Not only Jesus, but Muhammad as well.
00:04:28.000 Alright.
00:04:29.000 So what happened?
00:04:30.000 I'm so sorry, I'm just trying to finish this.
00:04:31.000 Okay, okay, okay.
00:04:32.000 That's why it's frustrating you, because I know what you're going to say.
00:04:34.000 Okay, I'm so sorry.
00:04:35.000 Forgive me.
00:04:36.000 Allow me to say it.
00:04:37.000 Maybe you've seen it, but other people haven't.
00:04:38.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:39.000 So, when those scriptures came down, it wasn't meant to be preserved.
00:04:42.000 It talked about another prophet that will come.
00:04:44.000 When Jesus came, the ones who follow the scriptures correctly said, 0.99
00:04:46.000 this is the one that was prophesied.
00:04:48.000 We follow him.
00:04:49.000 Then you had people who followed Jesus.
00:04:51.000 And Jesus said, I have many things to say unto you,
00:04:53.000 but you cannot bear them now.
00:04:54.000 Okay.
00:04:55.000 Okay.
00:04:56.000 Then it talked about the prophet Muhammad.
00:04:58.000 The Quran is the only scripture where God Almighty said,
00:05:01.000 the final messengers come, we have the Old Testament,
00:05:03.000 the New Testament and the Final Testament.
00:05:05.000 So the Quran is the seal that says everything that...
00:05:07.000 Obviously, Ali, you know that I don't agree with you.
00:05:10.000 I know.
00:05:11.000 That's why I'm saying.
00:05:12.000 That's why I'm saying.
00:05:13.000 Because you're arguing back and forth.
00:05:14.000 Let's go to your scriptures and my scriptures.
00:05:16.000 If your scripture is true, I'm ready to accept and follow you.
00:05:18.000 No problem.
00:05:19.000 I am ready to do it right now.
00:05:20.000 If my scripture is true and I have evidence based on that,
00:05:23.000 you can't pick and choose.
00:05:24.000 You have to follow.
00:05:25.000 No, no, no.
00:05:26.000 Ali, here's the thing.
00:05:27.000 And you know what?
00:05:28.000 There's a beautiful thing I read in the GDS.
00:05:29.000 Can I tell you?
00:05:30.000 And you tell me the...
00:05:31.000 Tell me the...
00:05:32.000 The actual...
00:05:33.000 In the native title, how you would actually say it.
00:05:35.000 Yeah.
00:05:36.000 He said that the truth is more...
00:05:38.000 Guru.
00:05:39.000 Faith is more beloved to me than religion or something like that.
00:05:42.000 No, that was a made up quote.
00:05:43.000 Oh really?
00:05:44.000 Somebody just put that in there.
00:05:45.000 I think some...
00:05:46.000 A lot of people make up quotes and they stick...
00:05:48.000 It's a nice meme, you know, stick it up online.
00:05:50.000 It's not the real one.
00:05:51.000 It's not the real one.
00:05:52.000 It's not the real one.
00:05:53.000 Corrupt.
00:05:54.000 There's a quote.
00:05:55.000 There's a quote in Guru Grantham that says...
00:05:56.000 Go on.
00:05:57.000 That the highest thing of all is truth.
00:06:00.000 Yeah.
00:06:01.000 But higher than truth is truth for living.
00:06:02.000 Living by the truth.
00:06:03.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:04.000 That's higher than just believing the truth.
00:06:05.000 Okay, but...
00:06:06.000 Okay.
00:06:07.000 The reason why this argument...
00:06:09.000 Again, like what you said earlier, it's going to go nowhere.
00:06:11.000 Is that...
00:06:12.000 Even if I...
00:06:13.000 You can see Guru Grantham Ji online.
00:06:14.000 I don't have to show it to you.
00:06:15.000 You can read it yourself.
00:06:16.000 Guru Grantham Ji is already online.
00:06:18.000 Our Guru is already available online.
00:06:19.000 You can read the scripture.
00:06:21.000 Yeah.
00:06:22.000 If it appeals to you.
00:06:23.000 Great.
00:06:24.000 If it doesn't appeal to you.
00:06:25.000 I'm not here to suffer down your throat.
00:06:26.000 No.
00:06:27.000 Can I tell you?
00:06:28.000 Allah says in the Quran, there is no compulsion of religion.
00:06:29.000 But I have to convey the message to you.
00:06:30.000 True.
00:06:31.000 So on the day of judgment, you don't say...
00:06:32.000 Ali, you came by far.
00:06:33.000 But the point is...
00:06:34.000 Ali, but I've read the Quran.
00:06:35.000 Yeah.
00:06:36.000 And I've also heard a lot of speeches by Muslim scholars.
00:06:37.000 Yes.
00:06:38.000 And the thing is, for me, it doesn't fulfill the requirements of truth.
00:06:43.000 But who gives you the criteria?
00:06:44.000 The truth?
00:06:45.000 My Guru gives me the criteria.
00:06:46.000 The Guru, yes.
00:06:47.000 Okay, but how do you know the Guru?
00:06:48.000 Okay, so that's a secular argument.
00:06:49.000 But that was what I was talking to all that time with our man Hamza.
00:06:53.000 Okay.
00:06:54.000 Is that the reason I believe in that truth is because of all the things that I've experienced
00:06:58.000 and still yet to experience from the Guru.
00:07:00.000 Okay, but what I'm trying to say is, look, I believe...
00:07:02.000 Let me tell you why I chose Islam.
00:07:03.000 Yeah, I'm a revert Islam. 0.92
00:07:04.000 It's been three and a half, four years.
00:07:05.000 Why I chose Islam is because I believe if there is a Creator,
00:07:08.000 if the Creator has sent down a scripture, this scripture should not be altered with.
00:07:11.000 It should not be changed.
00:07:12.000 It should not be altered with.
00:07:13.000 Okay, okay, okay.
00:07:14.000 So this is good.
00:07:15.000 So I believe the same with the Quran.
00:07:17.000 So we need to put our scriptures to the test.
00:07:18.000 Yeah?
00:07:19.000 When the Quran has been altered and changed.
00:07:20.000 No, no, okay.
00:07:21.000 Then, okay.
00:07:22.000 If you believe Allah says in the Quran, if this book was not other than from your Lord,
00:07:25.000 you will find many discrepancies and contradictions in it.
00:07:27.000 I challenge you to find me a single contradiction, a single error in the Quran that has been changed.
00:07:31.000 It's a nice challenge.
00:07:32.000 But here, let me just ask.
00:07:33.000 Let me finish the point.
00:07:34.000 Okay.
00:07:35.000 I'm going to listen to you as well, yeah?
00:07:36.000 Because let's listen to the Prophet as well, yeah?
00:07:37.000 Okay.
00:07:38.000 The second point Allah says in the Quran that He challenges the disbelievers and says,
00:07:41.000 bring a chapter like it.
00:07:42.000 Like if you think this one from God Almighty, it's good.
00:07:44.000 It's like me coming and saying, I will knock out anyone here.
00:07:47.000 So, and if I go, if you say to me, Ali, that guy, boom, I knock him out. 0.96
00:07:50.000 I'm going to say this.
00:07:51.000 So, then bring it, bring it.
00:07:52.000 Bring a chapter.
00:07:53.000 Bring it and we'll talk about it.
00:07:54.000 And not only that, it has historical miracles.
00:07:56.000 But the thing is, yeah, Ali, is that there are people out there that have actually come
00:07:59.000 up with a...
00:08:00.000 There's actually a website.
00:08:01.000 Cool, show me.
00:08:02.000 Come on.
00:08:03.000 There's a website, innit, about that.
00:08:04.000 There's a website dedicated to showmeaverselikeit.com.
00:08:07.000 Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:08:08.000 And it's actually a whole website dedicated to showing verses like the Quran.
00:08:11.000 But the thing is, who is going to be the guy that decides that, oh no, this verse has
00:08:17.000 beaten the test and therefore...
00:08:19.000 Jagraj, Jagraj.
00:08:20.000 Can I just...
00:08:21.000 There's criteria to it.
00:08:22.000 Who's going to be the guy?
00:08:23.000 No, look.
00:08:24.000 There's criteria to it.
00:08:25.000 You don't let me...
00:08:26.000 You don't let me finish.
00:08:27.000 Ali, if we found you a verse like that, would you leave Islam?
00:08:30.000 Yes.
00:08:31.000 I'm telling you, look.
00:08:32.000 One second.
00:08:33.000 One second.
00:08:34.000 Because...
00:08:35.000 Allah said, look in the Quran, speak the truth even if it's against yourself.
00:08:39.000 If you bring me evidence, if I'm truthful and I'm looking for the truth, I'm on camera,
00:08:43.000 I will leave Islam. 1.00
00:08:44.000 This is how certain I am.
00:08:45.000 So I'm saying, bring it.
00:08:46.000 I'm ready to join you.
00:08:47.000 What would happen one day?
00:08:48.000 I asked you one day, we're living in Pakistan.
00:08:52.000 The whole village is Muslim.
00:08:53.000 Yeah.
00:08:54.000 And everybody in the village at night has a realization of who they were in their past
00:08:59.000 life.
00:09:00.000 Just have a theory.
00:09:01.000 It's a theoretical argument.
00:09:02.000 Okay.
00:09:03.000 Where everybody suddenly realizes who they were in their past life.
00:09:05.000 Okay.
00:09:06.000 Right?
00:09:07.000 And they all remember...
00:09:08.000 Hold on.
00:09:09.000 Okay.
00:09:10.000 Sorry, sorry.
00:09:11.000 Let's just imagine they had happened, right?
00:09:12.000 Yeah.
00:09:13.000 So at that moment, effectively, they'd have to leave Islam. 0.95
00:09:14.000 According to what...
00:09:15.000 So let's say they now believe that was true.
00:09:16.000 That's a certain argument.
00:09:17.000 But let's say they decided, yeah, it's true. 0.75
00:09:19.000 Jagraj.
00:09:20.000 They were to leave Islam, right? 1.00
00:09:21.000 Yeah.
00:09:22.000 And what they say is that you see, many people in this world have actually experienced
00:09:26.000 their past life, right?
00:09:27.000 Okay, Jagraj.
00:09:28.000 But...
00:09:29.000 Yeah, they have, yeah.
00:09:30.000 Jagraj.
00:09:31.000 Please, please.
00:09:32.000 You're clever, man.
00:09:33.000 Please, Jagraj.
00:09:34.000 Jagraj, Jagraj.
00:09:35.000 The thing is, you know, there's also confirmation bias.
00:09:36.000 The confirmation bias exists as well, yeah?
00:09:38.000 That somebody who's not going to believe something, it doesn't matter what happens to
00:09:41.000 them.
00:09:42.000 He's never going to believe it.
00:09:43.000 No, no.
00:09:44.000 Reincarnation.
00:09:45.000 A lot of people believe in reincarnation.
00:09:47.000 So what?
00:09:48.000 We're talking about your scripture and my scripture.
00:09:50.000 It doesn't prove it.
00:09:51.000 No, no, no.
00:09:52.000 There's a lot of evidence for it.
00:09:53.000 No, no, we're going to.
00:09:54.000 But you're probably never going to read it.
00:09:55.000 You're going to say, always dismiss it.
00:09:56.000 You're always going to dismiss it.
00:09:57.000 Can I tell you the difference between our argument and your argument?
00:09:59.000 Just in one sentence, yeah?
00:10:00.000 Go on then.
00:10:01.000 One sentence.
00:10:02.000 The main difference is that we aim to offer proofs and evidences, whereas you're saying
00:10:06.000 just believe and that's that.
00:10:08.000 No, no, no.
00:10:09.000 I never said that.
00:10:10.000 What are your evidences?
00:10:11.000 Anybody sitting here watching right now can agree that I never said just believe.
00:10:13.000 What's your proof that your scripture says?
00:10:14.000 I've always said it's experience.
00:10:15.000 That's what the Guru says.
00:10:16.000 No, I said it's experience is what drives the belief.
00:10:18.000 It's not subjective.
00:10:19.000 I said to you earlier the whole argument.
00:10:20.000 One question.
00:10:21.000 Hamza, that it's subjective only when you're an individual.
00:10:23.000 Of course it's subjective.
00:10:24.000 When you can take it generalized, then it becomes subjective.
00:10:26.000 Religious experiences are subjective.
00:10:27.000 Okay, okay.
00:10:28.000 Color is subjective.
00:10:29.000 What's your evidence that your scriptures are true?
00:10:31.000 I've given you my criteria.
00:10:32.000 Historical miracles, linguistic miracles.
00:10:33.000 They're challenging the Quran for you. 1.00
00:10:35.000 Find a mistake in it.
00:10:36.000 That didn't convince me, Ali.
00:10:37.000 Of course it wouldn't.
00:10:38.000 It didn't convince me.
00:10:39.000 So it's not approved.
00:10:40.000 It might convince the one that's watching it.
00:10:41.000 Well, it might.
00:10:42.000 But it might not.
00:10:43.000 What's it?
00:10:44.000 I come and speak to Christians here.
00:10:45.000 They never get confused for three and a half years.
00:10:46.000 My point is, for the viewers to decide.
00:10:47.000 So therefore, is it a good argument?
00:10:48.000 So I'm telling you, what is the criteria for you?
00:10:49.000 Here's the question.
00:10:50.000 Listen, if you spent three and a half years making arguments.
00:10:52.000 What's your priority?
00:10:53.000 Not everybody bought it.
00:10:54.000 Could you be wrong?
00:10:55.000 Lame speak, lame speak, lame speak.
00:10:56.000 Could you be wrong?
00:10:57.000 Could I be wrong?
00:10:58.000 I don't believe.
00:10:59.000 Because it didn't work.
00:11:00.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:11:01.000 I'm asking you, what is your evidence to your scripture being from God?
00:11:04.000 I've given you my foundation.
00:11:05.000 I'm seeing challenge the historical miracle, the linguistic miracle,
00:11:07.000 the challenge that the Quran has been created.
00:11:09.000 And that, bring a check to like it.
00:11:11.000 Okay, fine.
00:11:12.000 I'll give you my argument.
00:11:13.000 Whether you like it or not, this is my challenge to you.
00:11:14.000 Of course, I respect it.
00:11:15.000 There's no compulsion.
00:11:16.000 No, it's not even a challenge.
00:11:17.000 Can we make a circle bigger?
00:11:18.000 If I met someone who was really fit at running, yeah?
00:11:21.000 But there was a hundred coaches, right?
00:11:24.000 I've trained these hundred people for five years, yeah?
00:11:27.000 Okay.
00:11:28.000 Then one guy comes along and trains one guy, right?
00:11:31.000 For one more year.
00:11:32.000 Okay.
00:11:33.000 Then that guy becomes faster than everybody else in that whole group.
00:11:35.000 Okay.
00:11:36.000 So the group turns to that one guy and says,
00:11:37.000 How did you become so fast?
00:11:38.000 He goes, it's because of that guy, the trainer.
00:11:40.000 Yeah?
00:11:41.000 So then, what will make those people, the hundred people,
00:11:44.000 being logical, wanting to win,
00:11:46.000 see that guy got ahead.
00:11:47.000 They might say, you know what?
00:11:48.000 I want to go and try what that guy is training.
00:11:50.000 Okay.
00:11:51.000 Let me try it.
00:11:52.000 Okay.
00:11:53.000 They try the training.
00:11:54.000 Yes.
00:11:55.000 They become faster.
00:11:56.000 Okay.
00:11:57.000 Right?
00:11:58.000 Now, they all believe in this guy now.
00:11:59.000 Believe in him for the fact that they made him faster
00:12:02.000 and they got the better training.
00:12:03.000 Yes.
00:12:04.000 So now, they have a reason to believe.
00:12:05.000 Now, they have a reason.
00:12:06.000 Which is what I've been saying to you from the very beginning.
00:12:08.000 Okay.
00:12:09.000 That's subjective.
00:12:10.000 That's subjective.
00:12:11.000 But, when he tells us to follow him,
00:12:12.000 and it works,
00:12:13.000 we experience God in the way that he's describing,
00:12:15.000 and it's so mind blowing.
00:12:16.000 Okay.
00:12:17.000 It's subjective.
00:12:18.000 It's only subjective.
00:12:19.000 Can I comment?
00:12:20.000 Can I comment?
00:12:21.000 No, please just one second.
00:12:22.000 Please one second.
00:12:23.000 I've got to go.
00:12:24.000 Listen.
00:12:25.000 It's 30 seconds left.
00:12:26.000 Okay.
00:12:27.000 I'll leave it to you.
00:12:28.000 You say what you like.
00:12:29.000 I'm not going to say anything.
00:12:30.000 Go on.
00:12:31.000 30 seconds.
00:12:32.000 Sorry.
00:12:33.000 What was your last sentence?
00:12:34.000 Sorry.
00:12:35.000 It says that...
00:12:36.000 That's the...
00:12:37.000 Okay.
00:12:38.000 You're telling me from Guru.
00:12:39.000 Did you ever hear me,
00:12:40.000 like for example,
00:12:41.000 that I gave you the Qur'an,
00:12:42.000 the scripture.
00:12:43.000 I can come to the Prophet and his life.
00:12:44.000 That's another evidence.
00:12:45.000 I gave you from the scripture.
00:12:46.000 The Guru is a scripture.
00:12:47.000 One second.
00:12:48.000 Okay.
00:12:49.000 If he's the scripture,
00:12:51.000 for example,
00:12:52.000 you need to bring me evidence.
00:12:54.000 Because you're telling me,
00:12:55.000 if I'm not mistaken,
00:12:57.000 he came,
00:12:58.000 and he made more...
00:12:59.000 The truth seems more with him.
00:13:01.000 Yeah.
00:13:02.000 That's why.
00:13:03.000 I'm telling you,
00:13:04.000 look, the Christians come and say to me, 0.95
00:13:05.000 you know there's a Christian who came to me,
00:13:06.000 and he goes,
00:13:07.000 Jesus paid for my ticket to go holiday.
00:13:08.000 I'm looking at him,
00:13:09.000 and I'm like, are you okay?
00:13:10.000 He truly believes in it.
00:13:11.000 But it's subjective.
00:13:12.000 It's not wrong either. 0.91
00:13:13.000 It's subjective.
00:13:14.000 If I said to you,
00:13:15.000 I accepted Islam,
00:13:16.000 because it changed my life,
00:13:17.000 it's subjective.
00:13:18.000 I'm going to the scripture.
00:13:19.000 Because you will come and say to me,
00:13:20.000 look, Guru changed my life.
00:13:21.000 I'll say the Prophet changed my life.
00:13:22.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:13:23.000 I'm sure that people watching will agree,
00:13:24.000 that I've actually made this point a few times.
00:13:26.000 Okay, okay.
00:13:27.000 You have to go now.
00:13:28.000 The brother has to go.
00:13:29.000 We don't want to hold him.
00:13:30.000 Are you here next week?
00:13:31.000 Probably not.
00:13:32.000 Okay, when are you going to be here?
00:13:33.000 I really come.
00:13:34.000 It's the fourth time I've come.
00:13:35.000 Okay, okay.
00:13:36.000 I have to be honest.
00:13:37.000 It was a pleasure.
00:13:38.000 Once every three months.
00:13:39.000 It was a pleasure.
00:13:40.000 Like the brother said,
00:13:41.000 your manners we really admire.
00:13:42.000 That is nice talking to you guys.
00:13:43.000 But the challenge,
00:13:44.000 like I said there,
00:13:45.000 I want someone to meet that,
00:13:46.000 and I'm ready to join you in your scripture.
00:13:47.000 I want to have a bit of advice,
00:13:48.000 you know,
00:13:49.000 a bit too tactile then.
00:13:50.000 Listen,
00:13:51.000 thank you very much.
00:13:52.000 Thank you very much.
00:13:53.000 Thank you very much.
00:13:54.000 Thank you very much.
00:13:55.000 Cameraman,
00:13:56.000 have you seen your shoulders?
00:13:57.000 Make sure you subscribe to all those channels that are recorded.
00:14:00.000 Yeah.
00:14:01.000 They are here,
00:14:10.000 so thank you all Phila.
00:14:12.000 I'm trying to rinse all three.
00:14:13.000 Thank you very much.
00:14:14.000 also your friends.
00:14:16.000 Here's something,
00:14:17.000 如果很大,
00:14:19.000 you'll get a break in the background,
00:14:20.000 you'll find us who were unmanned,
00:14:22.000 you'll see our left.
00:14:24.000 Although problemas,
00:14:25.000 Oh $3 so well.
00:14:28.000 You can end our place again.