Ali Dawah - August 10, 2020


JEW ACCEPTS PROPHET MUHAMED MESSAGE - SPEAKERS CORNER

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In this episode, we talk about the similarities and differences between the concept of God in Judaism and Islam, and how they are similar and different from each other. We also discuss the difference between the concepts of the Torah and the Torah in Judaism, and the Quran and the Sunnah in Islam.

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00:00:00.000 If we prove to you the Prophet Muhammad is a final messenger, would you accept it? 0.96
00:00:05.000 If you were to prove it, then sure.
00:00:07.000 So would you denounce Judaism and become Muslim? 0.92
00:00:11.000 If it was via logical process, then of course.
00:00:14.000 Isn't it? The children of Israel come to God, get closer to God through a Gentile prophet. 1.00
00:00:20.000 That is a true prophet.
00:00:21.000 Could they? Yes.
00:00:23.000 Why did they not?
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00:00:43.000 In advance, half past, I've got to go to synagogue.
00:00:46.000 So we've got 90 in a minute.
00:00:48.000 No problem.
00:00:49.000 18.
00:00:50.000 No problem.
00:00:51.000 He's recording, yeah?
00:00:55.000 Okay.
00:00:56.000 Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
00:00:57.000 Two brothers and sisters.
00:00:58.000 Hope you guys are well, inshaAllah.
00:00:59.000 We've got a Jewish brother here.
00:01:01.000 What's your name?
00:01:02.000 Josh.
00:01:03.000 How are you doing, Josh?
00:01:04.000 I'm doing alright.
00:01:05.000 You look tired.
00:01:06.000 Oh yeah, I've been here for hours.
00:01:08.000 That's good.
00:01:09.000 I haven't seen you here before.
00:01:10.000 I've been here.
00:01:11.000 I come here a lot.
00:01:12.000 Yeah?
00:01:13.000 Yeah.
00:01:14.000 That's good.
00:01:15.000 What we wanted to know is your concept of God in Judaism.
00:01:20.000 And we wanted to tell you guys about what's our concept of God in Islam.
00:01:26.000 And we wanted to talk about maybe the differences or the commonalities.
00:01:30.000 I think that Judaism and Islam have a very, very similar concept of God.
00:01:34.000 We both believe that there is only one God.
00:01:38.000 We believe that the one God is indivisible, unlike the Christians who say that it's divisible 1.00
00:01:43.000 into three.
00:01:44.000 Okay.
00:01:45.000 We believe that he's not made up of parts, as do you.
00:01:48.000 Yeah.
00:01:49.000 We believe that God is above our understanding, that he is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.
00:01:56.000 We believe he created the whole universe and everything in it.
00:02:00.000 Yeah.
00:02:01.000 All concepts, literally everything.
00:02:03.000 We believe that nothing exists without God allowing it to be.
00:02:07.000 Okay.
00:02:08.000 Okay.
00:02:09.000 We believe that God revealed himself to three million people at Mount Sinai and gave us the
00:02:19.000 Torah.
00:02:20.000 Okay.
00:02:21.000 Yeah.
00:02:22.000 And he spoke to various prophets over the years.
00:02:26.000 And he gave us a written and an oral law at Sinai.
00:02:31.000 Yeah.
00:02:32.000 Interesting.
00:02:33.000 You know, when you say that, it reminds me of, for example, there's books that we study
00:02:37.000 on the matters of creed.
00:02:39.000 There's two books.
00:02:40.000 There's Akid al-Tahawiyah and Akid al-Wasatiyah.
00:02:42.000 Yeah.
00:02:43.000 So these are books that tells us the doctrine of Islam, who God is.
00:02:48.000 So we have something called, we worship Allah.
00:02:51.000 Like for example, we single out God in his Lordship and we single him out in his worship
00:02:56.000 and we affirm his names and his attributes.
00:02:58.000 So when you were speaking, it was reminding me of the things that we studied, the things
00:03:02.000 that we went through, because you said a lot of stuff.
00:03:05.000 Yeah.
00:03:06.000 So for example, you do not, you reject the concept of the Trinity.
00:03:07.000 You do not believe God is like his creation.
00:03:09.000 Yeah.
00:03:10.000 You know, you believe in his oneness.
00:03:13.000 So when you're talking, it reminds me of Islam.
00:03:17.000 So we have a agreement.
00:03:20.000 That's what Allah says in the Quran.
00:03:22.000 Come to common terms with the people of the book that we worship no other than God.
00:03:25.000 So, so far we're on the right track.
00:03:27.000 It seems like we are both coming to good terms of worshiping God alone.
00:03:30.000 You said one statement, I just wanted to clarify.
00:03:32.000 You said that God revealed himself to three million Israelites.
00:03:36.000 Yes.
00:03:37.000 What do you mean by revealed himself?
00:03:39.000 So what that means is that God made some sort of speech.
00:03:45.000 Yeah.
00:03:46.000 We're not sure what it means when God speaks, but it means something.
00:03:49.000 We just don't know what it means.
00:03:50.000 Okay.
00:03:51.000 So did he reveal himself or did he speak?
00:03:53.000 He spoke.
00:03:54.000 We're not sure what God speaking actually sounds like.
00:03:57.000 That's interesting because we believe God speaks.
00:04:00.000 Yeah.
00:04:01.000 And we believe the Quran is his word, uncreated word. 0.99
00:04:04.000 Yeah.
00:04:05.000 So what we believe is that whenever, whenever the Torah talks about God in physical terms,
00:04:10.000 like he speaks or he has a hand or he regrets or anything like that,
00:04:14.000 it's really an anthropomorphism because we can't understand God in any way.
00:04:18.000 Um, and, and therefore the only way we can understand him is through human terms.
00:04:24.000 Okay.
00:04:25.000 So when you say, for example, when God speaks or for example, God, we believe, for example,
00:04:29.000 God speaks, we affirm that he has a hand.
00:04:32.000 Yeah.
00:04:33.000 But it's the way it befits his majesty.
00:04:34.000 So for example, we have certain groups in Islam who deny this concept.
00:04:39.000 Yeah.
00:04:40.000 Which we believe that it's a whole different topic.
00:04:42.000 Yeah.
00:04:43.000 That there's innovation.
00:04:44.000 Yeah.
00:04:45.000 People say that God has a hand the way it befits his majesty.
00:04:48.000 But a lot of them, what happens is they use their mind over the text.
00:04:51.000 So we say, look, if the Quran and the Sunnah, if Allah affirms himself, himself and his attributes to us,
00:04:57.000 which we affirm, then we accept it.
00:05:00.000 We say God has a hand the way it befits his majesty.
00:05:03.000 We don't.
00:05:04.000 But what happens is certain fractions, groups in Islam, they say, oh, if God has a hand,
00:05:08.000 he should have a limb.
00:05:09.000 If he has a limb, so you're laughing.
00:05:11.000 Do you know why you're laughing?
00:05:12.000 Because you know we don't mean that.
00:05:14.000 Yeah.
00:05:15.000 Right?
00:05:16.000 Exactly.
00:05:17.000 Yes.
00:05:18.000 If there were some brothers here, they'll say you're a Salafi.
00:05:20.000 You're on the right thing, ideology regarding creed.
00:05:23.000 Yeah.
00:05:24.000 And that's important because we go back to how the Sahaba, the Salaf understood it.
00:05:27.000 And we say, look, we go with what they're saying.
00:05:29.000 So when you smirked, I find it very interesting because he was like, come on, you even know that when God Almighty has a speech,
00:05:36.000 and for example, his hand or his shin, it's the way.
00:05:39.000 It's not the same as what we say is speech.
00:05:40.000 Exactly.
00:05:41.000 It's not the same.
00:05:42.000 Exactly.
00:05:43.000 So we affirm, we affirm that he does, but the way it befits his majesty.
00:05:46.000 Yeah.
00:05:47.000 So it's very similar.
00:05:48.000 Because when you said he revealed himself, the three million Israelites, I wanted to know what you mean by revealed.
00:05:53.000 Did he show himself?
00:05:54.000 Of course not.
00:05:55.000 Okay.
00:05:56.000 Exactly.
00:05:57.000 So, so far, it seems like we have a lot of commonalities.
00:06:00.000 Where do we differ?
00:06:01.000 Why are we?
00:06:02.000 Why do we have like two different religions?
00:06:05.000 We have two different religions for one reason.
00:06:08.000 And the reason is because we believe that at Sinai, there was given not only a written law, but an oral law, which told you how to interpret it.
00:06:18.000 Okay.
00:06:19.000 And you don't believe that.
00:06:20.000 And because you don't believe that, you don't believe that the prophet Malachi was the last of the prophets,
00:06:27.000 and you believe that the prophets could continue after that.
00:06:30.000 Whereas we have an oral tradition that was passed down, that Malachi was the last prophet, and therefore we can't accept any prophets after him.
00:06:37.000 Okay.
00:06:38.000 Do you, so...
00:06:39.000 That's really where we split up.
00:06:41.000 Okay.
00:06:42.000 So far, like, also one thing I just want to clarify as well.
00:06:44.000 Do you believe that God rested on the seventh day?
00:06:46.000 In an anthropomorphized way, in a way that befits his majesty, as you would say?
00:06:50.000 Yes.
00:06:51.000 Okay.
00:06:52.000 We, we believe that, for example, we have something called Ayatul Qursi.
00:06:56.000 Yeah?
00:06:57.000 It's a very powerful verse in the Quran.
00:06:59.000 Ayatul Qursi.
00:07:00.000 For example, let me get you the translation, and we'll read it.
00:07:03.000 Because it's very important when it comes to this matter of...
00:07:06.000 Oh, it's good.
00:07:07.000 Sorry.
00:07:08.000 Thank you.
00:07:09.000 Yeah.
00:07:10.000 Yes.
00:07:11.000 One second.
00:07:12.000 Let me get you it, because I want to read it for you.
00:07:14.000 And...
00:07:15.000 Because it's very important it touches on this topic, yeah?
00:07:19.000 Yeah.
00:07:20.000 Okay.
00:07:21.000 Okay.
00:07:22.000 Okay.
00:07:23.000 It's the Quran.
00:07:24.000 It's Surah Baqarah.
00:07:25.000 Ah, a long one.
00:07:26.000 Yeah, it's long.
00:07:27.000 It's about the cow.
00:07:28.000 I haven't finished it yet.
00:07:29.000 Really?
00:07:30.000 That's good.
00:07:31.000 You're reading it, yeah?
00:07:32.000 Yes.
00:07:33.000 Yes.
00:07:34.000 May God guide you.
00:07:35.000 Yes.
00:07:36.000 I don't know any Arabic.
00:07:37.000 I've started learning the alphabet.
00:07:38.000 Me too.
00:07:39.000 I'm slowly learning too.
00:07:40.000 Okay.
00:07:41.000 Okay.
00:07:42.000 So, Ayatul Qursi is something that we read.
00:07:43.000 It's a powerful dua.
00:07:44.000 It says the following, yeah?
00:07:45.000 And tell me if you relate with this as a Jewish person, yeah?
00:07:46.000 Allah, God, there is no God but He, the living, the sustaining, neither dozing off, tiredness overtakes Him, nor sleep.
00:08:05.000 To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth, all that is on the earth, who can intercede with Him without His permission.
00:08:11.000 He knows what is before them and what is behind them, while they encompass nothing of His knowledge except what He wills.
00:08:18.000 His Qursi, chair, extends to the heavens and the earth, and it does not worry Him to look after them.
00:08:25.000 So here, there's something that says in the beginning, He does not get tired.
00:08:28.000 Yeah.
00:08:29.000 No sleep overtakes Him.
00:08:30.000 Yeah.
00:08:31.000 So now, even though you're saying that He sleeps but not...
00:08:35.000 Yeah, He did rest.
00:08:36.000 Yeah.
00:08:37.000 He doesn't sleep, as it says in Psalms.
00:08:40.000 Behold, the guardian of Israel does not sleep and does not slumber.
00:08:46.000 And yet, we know in Genesis that He did something on the seventh day which was called rest.
00:08:55.000 We don't know what that means because, of course, it's anthropomorphism.
00:08:58.000 It's something...
00:09:00.000 We're ascribing physical attributes to God even though we know that He's not physical.
00:09:04.000 So what God's rest is, it's not the same as what our rest is.
00:09:07.000 Okay, so in the same way that God's speech is not the same as our speech.
00:09:10.000 God's hand is not the same as our hand.
00:09:11.000 And the way God exists is not the way we exist.
00:09:13.000 Exactly.
00:09:14.000 Exactly.
00:09:15.000 Exactly.
00:09:16.000 Now, when you said, for example, God...
00:09:19.000 Oh.
00:09:20.000 When He said He rested, can we say that God willed certain things but on the seventh day
00:09:26.000 He didn't will?
00:09:27.000 Like meaning?
00:09:28.000 Like can you...
00:09:29.000 Is that what you mean?
00:09:30.000 Like He just didn't do...
00:09:31.000 I'm not...
00:09:33.000 Because God is above our understanding, I don't know what it actually means when it says
00:09:38.000 He rested.
00:09:39.000 Okay.
00:09:40.000 I know that it says that God ceased from doing on the seventh day.
00:09:44.000 I know that.
00:09:45.000 Okay.
00:09:46.000 Whatever that means.
00:09:47.000 I know it says God rested on the seventh day.
00:09:49.000 I know it says God sanctified the seventh day.
00:09:51.000 Okay.
00:09:52.000 But we don't know what these things mean.
00:09:54.000 All we can do is relate to the anthropomorphism that is being said.
00:09:58.000 Okay.
00:09:59.000 Okay.
00:10:00.000 No, that's no problem.
00:10:01.000 That gives us a bit of an understanding.
00:10:02.000 Okay.
00:10:03.000 So, so far we can say that we both believe in the good oneness of God.
00:10:07.000 We do not, we deny the whole trinity, the whole worshipping.
00:10:10.000 Now, as Muslims, where do we stand in your religion?
00:10:14.000 What are we?
00:10:15.000 I know we're the Gentiles.
00:10:16.000 But do we have a belonging in the hereafter?
00:10:19.000 And also the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.
00:10:22.000 What do you guys see him as?
00:10:24.000 Like, like, if you just tell us.
00:10:27.000 Yes.
00:10:28.000 So, the, so in our, so we, one of our great rabbis was called the Rambam, known in English
00:10:36.000 as Maimonides.
00:10:37.000 Uh, he was, uh, he was a, he was a rabbi who was, grew up in Spain and had to move,
00:10:42.000 um, um, to, um, to, um, to, uh, uh, ha, yes.
00:10:46.000 And had to move to Morocco and then eventually Egypt and then Israel.
00:10:50.000 Sure.
00:10:51.000 And he said that the, that, that those who follow the Nazarene, i.e. the Christians, and
00:10:57.000 those who follow the, the madman, which is how he referred to Muhammad, because he thought, 0.94
00:11:03.000 he referred to him as mad.
00:11:05.000 Um, uh, uh, have, have the, have been sent to this world by God to spread the principle
00:11:12.000 of one God to the pagans.
00:11:14.000 So we believe that you have a very important purpose in this world, that you are, that,
00:11:19.000 I mean, you went to India, you went to Africa and you, and you turned all these pagans into 0.99
00:11:25.000 people who believe in one God.
00:11:27.000 And that's an incredible thing.
00:11:28.000 So then how can prophet Muhammad be classified as mad when he's rid the, a lot of nations of 0.99
00:11:34.000 idol worshipers?
00:11:36.000 Because, because we believe that he was a false prophet.
00:11:40.000 We believe that, that, that, that God did not actually speak to him.
00:11:44.000 We believe that because, that because the Quran contradicts the Torah, that therefore the, 0.63
00:11:51.000 uh, the Quran must not be true. 0.96
00:11:53.000 But we do believe that the message of Muhammad is a true message. 0.99
00:11:57.000 Okay.
00:11:58.000 Do you believe that the prophet Muhammad is a prophet for the Gentiles?
00:12:02.000 Um, no.
00:12:04.000 You don't believe that.
00:12:05.000 Some, I heard some Jewish sects believe.
00:12:07.000 There was one rabbi who wrote it in his book, but he lived at a time when Jews were being
00:12:13.000 forcibly converted to Islam in Yemen.
00:12:15.000 So I don't think we can take what he says at face value.
00:12:19.000 If, if it's true what you're saying that they were persecuted, because a lot of Jews did 0.83
00:12:22.000 live in harmony in Muslim lands where they were suffering persecution.
00:12:25.000 Um, if that is true.
00:12:26.000 Now, the thing is this.
00:12:28.000 If we prove to you that the prophet Muhammad is a final messenger, would you accept it? 0.82
00:12:33.000 If you were to prove it, then sure.
00:12:35.000 So would you denounce Judaism and become Muslim? 0.92
00:12:38.000 If it was via logical process, then of course.
00:12:41.000 Okay.
00:12:42.000 So that shows your honesty and that's, that's, that's good.
00:12:44.000 What kind of proof would you require in order to, um, to like for us to show you that the
00:12:50.000 prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was just a fulfilling the message of Moses and, uh,
00:12:55.000 the rest will believe in Jesus.
00:12:57.000 You don't.
00:12:58.000 Um, so what evidence would you require that would get you thinking?
00:13:02.000 What is it?
00:13:03.000 You need to give me a, yeah.
00:13:04.000 Yeah.
00:13:05.000 So the evidence I would need is as follows.
00:13:07.000 Um, and it's based on the following.
00:13:09.000 I'm going to have to introduce it.
00:13:10.000 Yes.
00:13:11.000 We as Jews, as I said, believe that our ancestors had this mass revelation, 3 million people
00:13:17.000 at Sinai.
00:13:18.000 We heard God speak to us.
00:13:20.000 We were given the Torah.
00:13:21.000 We were given the oral Torah and the written Torah.
00:13:24.000 And the oral Torah said that the last Gentile prophet was Bilam.
00:13:30.000 And after that prophecy left the Gentiles. 0.90
00:13:33.000 What's his name?
00:13:34.000 Bilam.
00:13:35.000 Bilam.
00:13:36.000 Bilam.
00:13:37.000 Or in English, Balaam.
00:13:38.000 I don't know how they pronounce it in English.
00:13:39.000 I've always been taught it as Bilam.
00:13:41.000 Okay.
00:13:42.000 Um, and, uh, spelt in English B-A-L-A-A-M.
00:13:45.000 It's brought in and mentioned in the book of Numbers.
00:13:48.000 Okay.
00:13:49.000 Um, so the oral Torah, he says that after his death, prophecy left the Gentiles.
00:13:54.000 Yeah.
00:13:55.000 And the rabbis said that after Malachi, after the prophet Malachi, Malachi, prophecy left
00:14:02.000 the Jews.
00:14:03.000 So at that point, prophecy has left the world.
00:14:06.000 Now, unless you can prove to me that our oral law is wrong, then I would not believe that
00:14:14.000 Islam is true.
00:14:15.000 Because Islam can only be true if prophecy had not left Bilam. 1.00
00:14:19.000 And not left Bilam.
00:14:20.000 Now, there is an additional point that I would not believe Islam unless you also show to me 1.00
00:14:26.000 that the written Torah is also not true.
00:14:29.000 Why?
00:14:30.000 Because the Quran and the written Torah disagree on, I mean, I've found the list of our five 0.99
00:14:34.000 different points.
00:14:35.000 But those five points are enough to say that one of them, they contradict each other.
00:14:41.000 So unless you were to tell, prove to me that the written and oral Torahs are both not true,
00:14:47.000 then I would not believe Islam. 0.95
00:14:49.000 Okay.
00:14:50.000 So you did say that the last Gentile prophet was Bilam.
00:14:55.000 So does that, you need to accept that God sent prophets that were Gentiles? 0.89
00:15:01.000 Yes.
00:15:02.000 God sent prophets that were Gentiles. 1.00
00:15:04.000 Okay.
00:15:05.000 So now, can God send another prophet who was a Gentile? 1.00
00:15:09.000 Because the children of Israel broke their covenant with him. 0.58
00:15:13.000 And therefore, God Almighty chose from the line of Ibrahim's two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. 0.75
00:15:19.000 And in the line of Isaac, we affirm those prophets.
00:15:23.000 And then what happened is because you broke the covenant with God, God as a punishment,
00:15:28.000 chose the prophet Muhammad who was, because you said that there was Gentile prophets before.
00:15:33.000 So what happened is in the lineage of Ishmael, which prophet Muhammad's lineage goes to,
00:15:38.000 is that he was the final prophet who came to affirm to the Jews and to the Christians and to the whole world,
00:15:45.000 that he is the final messenger, because he comes with the law.
00:15:48.000 Now, you said that there's five things that disagree with the Torah from the Quran.
00:15:51.000 Well, if we can get that list out.
00:15:53.000 The thing is, God Almighty, it's not that God changes his mind.
00:15:56.000 It's that God, when God sends laws and sanctions, he does it to test people.
00:16:00.000 So, God might say, for example, that in the Old Testament, you're not allowed to eat Camel.
00:16:04.000 You're not allowed to eat Camel meat, right? 1.00
00:16:06.000 Yeah, we're not allowed to eat Camel.
00:16:08.000 Okay, so when I confronted the black Israelites about four or five years ago, 1.00
00:16:11.000 which they believe you guys are fake and thus vice versa. 0.93
00:16:13.000 Yeah.
00:16:14.000 When I confronted them, they said, oh no, Islam is false, because we are told that we could...
00:16:17.000 I need to leave at half past to get to Sunnah.
00:16:19.000 Okay, three minutes left. Three minutes left, but we can continue next week.
00:16:21.000 So the thing is, they said no, because in our book says you can't eat Camel meat.
00:16:25.000 In your book, not in the book, in the Sunnah, it says that you can.
00:16:28.000 Yeah?
00:16:29.000 So I say these are little petty issues.
00:16:30.000 But what I would say is that...
00:16:32.000 What?
00:16:33.000 Animals.
00:16:34.000 Okay, okay.
00:16:36.000 When is the marriage done?
00:16:37.000 Soon.
00:16:38.000 Inshallah.
00:16:40.000 Give me a few minutes.
00:16:41.000 Give me a few minutes.
00:16:42.000 Yeah, so the thing is...
00:16:43.000 Sorry.
00:16:44.000 So the thing is...
00:16:46.000 Sorry, I lost my track.
00:16:47.000 Sorry.
00:16:48.000 Yeah, so the thing is that, if God Almighty sent down prophets that were Gentiles, 0.97
00:16:53.000 if the children of Israel broke the covenant, for God to punish them,
00:16:59.000 if you think it logically, sends another prophet, is that not plausible?
00:17:04.000 Is it plausible?
00:17:06.000 Yes.
00:17:07.000 But does it befits his majesty to change...
00:17:10.000 It's not changing.
00:17:11.000 To say that prophecy has left the Gentiles, and then to go back on that, 0.97
00:17:17.000 I don't believe that befits his majesty.
00:17:19.000 Okay, no, but the thing is, if the children of Israel have broke the covenant with him,
00:17:23.000 and have not listened to him, and it's...
00:17:25.000 God said...
00:17:26.000 God said...
00:17:27.000 Sorry to interrupt.
00:17:28.000 God said that even if we break the covenant, he will not abandon us.
00:17:32.000 If we return to God, then he will... 0.93
00:17:36.000 It says in Deuteronomy 30, if we return to God, then God will accept us back.
00:17:40.000 You're right, I agree with you.
00:17:41.000 Can you turn back to God via a new prophet from the Gentiles, 1.00
00:17:45.000 who is from the lineage of Ibrahim , the prophet Abraham,
00:17:49.000 and can you not turn back to God via him?
00:17:51.000 Because the Jews in Medina... 0.99
00:17:55.000 I forgot, what's the other name of Medina?
00:17:57.000 Yadrib, yadrib, yadrib, yeah?
00:18:02.000 Before there was Jews... 1.00
00:18:03.000 There was Jews that lived there.
00:18:06.000 They rejected the prophet because they were waiting in those lands for the final prophet to come. 0.99
00:18:11.000 And they were waiting, the Messiah...
00:18:13.000 Well, they were waiting for the final prophet, or the Euclidean Messiah, to come.
00:18:17.000 And they knew the prophet like they knew the back of their hand.
00:18:20.000 The only reason they rejected him is because he's not a Jew.
00:18:23.000 Is that a correct method?
00:18:24.000 Because they had a right, they had an opportunity to correct their affairs with God
00:18:28.000 by following a messenger, even if he's a Gentile. 0.93
00:18:31.000 Because to say, oh no, he has to be an Israelite, is asking God to pick and choose. 0.90
00:18:36.000 To pick and choose, like, oh no, we...
00:18:38.000 Isn't that...
00:18:39.000 One simple...
00:18:40.000 I'm so sorry.
00:18:41.000 Simple.
00:18:42.000 I'll make it simple.
00:18:43.000 Because you need to go to synagogue. 0.99
00:18:44.000 You've got one minute.
00:18:45.000 15 seconds.
00:18:46.000 Okay.
00:18:47.000 Can I ask this question quickly?
00:18:48.000 Isn't it...
00:18:49.000 Could the children of Israel come to God, get closer to God through a Gentile prophet? 1.00
00:18:54.000 That is a true prophet.
00:18:55.000 Could they?
00:18:56.000 Yes.
00:18:57.000 Why did they not?
00:18:58.000 Why did they not?
00:18:59.000 Because they don't believe he's a true prophet.
00:19:01.000 If we prove that he was.
00:19:03.000 If they knew he was...
00:19:04.000 We'll have to carry on next week.
00:19:05.000 Okay.
00:19:06.000 Okay.
00:19:07.000 If they knew he was and they rejected him, is that right or wrong?
00:19:10.000 If they knew he was a true prophet?
00:19:11.000 If they had known he was a true prophet, then they would be wrong to go against him.
00:19:15.000 Okay.
00:19:16.000 But I don't believe they knew that he was a true prophet because I believe it was a false prophet.
00:19:19.000 Okay.
00:19:20.000 Josh, thank you very much for your time.
00:19:21.000 I'm looking forward to continuing this.
00:19:22.000 I'll be here...
00:19:23.000 Okay.
00:19:24.000 Yes.
00:19:25.000 Nice talking to you.
00:19:26.000 Thank you very much, Josh.
00:19:27.000 Thank you.
00:19:28.000 So guys, as we...
00:19:29.000 Is he recording?
00:19:30.000 Yeah.
00:19:31.000 So that was a really nice discussion.
00:19:32.000 He had to go to the synagogue, which is understandable.
00:19:34.000 It's very important for us to have a dialogue and discussion with Christians, Jews.
00:19:38.000 And it's very important that Josh is a nice gentleman.
00:19:41.000 He's polite, well-spoken, etc.
00:19:43.000 He believes that the prophet is a false prophet.
00:19:47.000 But alhamdulillah, we know he's the true prophet alhamdulillah.
00:19:50.000 But obviously, him stating that, he's stating that because he's not aware.
00:19:54.000 He's not alhamdulillah. 0.96
00:19:55.000 The message hasn't reached him.
00:19:56.000 And that's what we're trying to convey inshallah.
00:19:58.000 And he did say, if he is, he would accept him inshallah.
00:20:00.000 That's between him and his Lord.
00:20:02.000 But yeah.
00:20:03.000 So yeah, he expressed himself and we are different.
00:20:05.000 But he said some very profound things.
00:20:07.000 So brothers and sisters, to next time inshallah.
00:20:09.000 Come visit us if you have any questions or answers for both Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, whatever you name it.
00:20:14.000 From Salaam Corner and your brother Ali.
00:20:16.000 As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.