Ali Dawah - March 29, 2025


LILY JAY ISLAM IN DANGER - ALI DAWAH MESSAGE


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In this episode, we talk about the sons of Sheikh Nazim and how they have taken over the legacy of their father, Sheikh Nasim. We also talk about how dangerous they are and what we should do about it.

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00:00:00.000 Today I'm meeting the sons of Shaykh Nazim.
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00:00:30.000 Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh,
00:00:31.560 brothers and sisters and dear friends.
00:00:32.680 We are in Medina.
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00:00:37.360 Alhamdulillah, Brom Sisters.
00:00:39.180 Before we start, Brom Sisters,
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00:01:27.020 Let's get straight into the video, inshallah.
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00:01:29.920 Time is running now, inshallah.
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00:01:33.340 This is a video that I saw of Sister Lily J.
00:01:34.900 So she's someone who was known for her ChatGPT.
00:01:37.000 Hey, you know, ChatGPT, whatever, etc.
00:01:39.680 Alhamdulillah.
00:01:40.080 And now we saw her.
00:01:41.120 Obviously, again, she's spoken that she's accepted Islam.
00:01:43.560 Alhamdulillah.
00:01:44.440 And now she is in hijab. 0.92
00:01:46.720 Or she's partially in hijab for the moment.
00:01:48.700 And she's heading to a mosque. 0.59
00:01:50.760 But this is run by an individual called Sheikh Nazim.
00:01:54.720 Now, Sheikh Nazim is somebody who...
00:01:56.960 I don't think it's run by Sheikh Nazim.
00:02:00.380 It's by the replacement of Sheikh Nazim.
00:02:02.380 Yeah, I mean, it's his group.
00:02:04.480 Naqshbandi. 0.86
00:02:05.120 This is Naqshbandi, yeah.
00:02:06.400 Exactly.
00:02:06.800 Now, obviously, this individual, he's passed away now.
00:02:11.140 And a lot of scholars have deemed him to be a deviant.
00:02:14.680 Do you know who's Sheikh?
00:02:16.120 Who is his Sheikh? 0.99
00:02:17.520 No.
00:02:17.880 Abdullah al-Daghestani.
00:02:19.460 Who's that?
00:02:20.400 From Dagestan.
00:02:21.440 Oh, okay.
00:02:21.700 That was his Sheikh. 0.96
00:02:22.420 He learned from him.
00:02:23.860 So we're going to watch a video of her heading to Sheikh Nazim Center.
00:02:27.060 And we just want to tell her just to be careful on certain things.
00:02:29.340 We're not saying that these people are bad.
00:02:31.020 We're not saying that.
00:02:31.500 We're just saying the ideology behind that is very dangerous. 0.89
00:02:34.040 So you're a new Muslim. 0.95
00:02:35.320 Just be careful who you take what from, inshallah. 0.94
00:02:37.600 We just want to show her vlog going there.
00:02:39.760 And let's see what we can take from, inshallah,
00:02:41.720 and talk about this movement and how dangerous they could be.
00:02:44.180 Today, I'm meeting the sons of Sheikh Nazim,
00:02:46.340 who had over 40 million students.
00:02:48.760 And now his sons have taken over his legacy.
00:02:51.300 People from all around the world come to learn about Islam.
00:02:53.880 It's like I've stepped in a time machine back 1400 years.
00:02:56.800 They are trying to live like the Sahaba did. 1.00
00:02:58.600 It's like a full-on community here where everyone helps out wherever they can.
00:03:02.500 So this lady was from Kazakhstan and was making a traditional noodle dish from her hometown.
00:03:06.980 They were doing some old-style carpentry.
00:03:08.700 So traditional and so cool.
00:03:10.540 Brother, who controls all this?
00:03:11.980 They work together as a unit.
00:03:13.500 They like to share everything.
00:03:14.800 They like to share the food.
00:03:16.000 And anybody allowed to come and eat.
00:03:17.880 So nobody can control it.
00:03:19.100 It's controlled by Allah. 0.97
00:03:20.060 It's so cute.
00:03:21.120 Everyone brings a dish to share.
00:03:22.780 This community is so multicultural.
00:03:25.120 It's amazing to see.
00:03:26.500 Kazakhstan, UK, Turkey, Germany, France, Brazil, Chile, Egypt.
00:03:30.520 It's like one big family.
00:03:31.760 I was honored to be invited by one of the sons, Sheikh Bahad-Din, to his place for Iftar and meet his beautiful family.
00:03:37.820 Now it's time to break fast.
00:03:39.600 We made a prayer showing gratitude to God for the meal we are about to eat.
00:03:42.720 For our Iftar, we just have our tea and dates.
00:03:48.000 Then after we pray, then we have our dinner.
00:03:51.360 We break fast with dates and water like the Prophet did. 1.00
00:03:53.840 You are promoting the sincerity.
00:03:56.740 When you are sincere, you will have a lot of enemies.
00:04:00.660 Don't think I'm sincere and I'm free.
00:04:02.820 No.
00:04:03.900 Then the work will start.
00:04:05.840 And the biggest enemy for you will be your ego.
00:04:09.200 Very true.
00:04:10.460 Now we're going to pray.
00:04:12.900 Prayer is finished.
00:04:13.760 Time to eat.
00:04:14.600 The food looks absolutely amazing.
00:04:17.580 There were noodles, sweet and sour soup, chicken, yapp, ruff.
00:04:24.040 Dolmah, beef, spring rolls, salads, soups.
00:04:26.480 Oh, so good.
00:04:29.580 We had some dessert and tea.
00:04:31.280 And then we had a chat with Sheikh Bahad-Din to learn more and discuss Islam.
00:04:34.400 I follow you.
00:04:35.520 I appreciate what you do.
00:04:37.480 It is like you have touch of the heart of the people.
00:04:41.160 Thank you so much.
00:04:41.660 Thank you very much.
00:04:42.640 Then it was time for Tatooi prayer.
00:04:44.280 And I did 20 rakats.
00:04:46.120 It was a beautiful way to spend the 27th 9th of Ramadan.
00:04:49.980 Hopefully it was Leila Dukadu. 0.64
00:04:53.840 And this is Sheikh Mehmet, the son of Sheikh Nazim, who was his chosen successor.
00:05:01.940 He was incredibly kind.
00:05:03.320 He gave me some words of encouragement and a meaningful gift, which they only give out
00:05:07.000 once a year on Leila Dukadu.
00:05:08.620 I am so honored.
00:05:09.700 Let's get you to the point, inshallah.
00:05:10.760 So obviously now, as she's a new revert, she might watch this video. 0.90
00:05:14.720 It might be a bit like, oh my gosh, what's going on?
00:05:16.460 The reason we're doing this video is...
00:05:18.420 No, see how we're doing nasiha.
00:05:19.740 It's nasiha. 0.82
00:05:21.400 Also, I did get in contact with Sister Lily Jai to send her a mat for herself to learn
00:05:25.640 how to pray.
00:05:26.080 If she doesn't know how to pray, it is still there.
00:05:27.540 We send it for free.
00:05:28.260 It's salahplus.com.
00:05:29.060 She can order it herself.
00:05:30.120 It's absolutely for free.
00:05:30.880 And we're actually teaching another public figure, which is the Japanese sister who came
00:05:34.180 to Islam.
00:05:34.960 Our sister's salah team is teaching her how to pray, inshallah.
00:05:37.700 And we're sending a mat to her.
00:05:38.520 We spoke to her.
00:05:39.400 So it's there for anybody to use.
00:05:40.620 But it's very important as a new Muslim yourself, when you come to understand what is the concept
00:05:45.380 of Islam.
00:05:45.960 And when the race concept of Islam, the first thing is Tawheed. 0.61
00:05:49.360 Now, what are the major things that Sheikh Nazim, he was known as a Sheikh, and Nazim came
00:05:54.480 up with that is very dangerous?
00:05:56.080 A Sheikh who does not know Quran, he does not know Hadith. 1.00
00:05:59.380 I have never heard him or anybody that followed, knows about him.
00:06:04.660 To have said,
00:06:05.860 You know, you spoke about Tawheed.
00:06:13.040 Let's kind of dissect this.
00:06:15.860 If someone says that there are others with Allah Jalla Wa'ala, like they called them
00:06:22.040 Qutb, Qutb, Al-Aqtab.
00:06:24.200 That's what they call Qutb.
00:06:25.600 It's like a saint.
00:06:27.600 It's like a saint.
00:06:29.020 Qutb. 0.57
00:06:29.560 And this Aqtab are with Allah Jalla Wa'ala. 0.93
00:06:31.800 And they look at the preserved tablet, at Al-Lawah Al-Mahfooz.
00:06:36.260 Yeah.
00:06:36.780 Is that a shirk or not? 0.93
00:06:38.200 I'll find that problematic.
00:06:39.340 Very problematic.
00:06:40.380 Very problematic.
00:06:40.940 What about you do not have to pray to Allah directly, but you have to pray to Allah through
00:06:46.760 Al-Qutb? 0.98
00:06:47.440 You have to or you can?
00:06:48.740 You have to.
00:06:49.700 No, that's it.
00:06:50.180 I mean, both of them, you can is problematic, let alone you have to.
00:06:53.480 You have to.
00:06:54.200 Yeah.
00:06:54.460 So that's Allah Jalla Wa'ala. 0.99
00:06:55.460 It's like association.
00:06:56.540 Allah Jalla Wa'ala, you don't pray to Allah Jalla Wa'ala directly, but you pray to him
00:07:00.020 through a Qutb from this Aqtab that they call, the saints that they call and that.
00:07:05.400 Now, this is one.
00:07:06.700 You want to know the worst one?
00:07:08.620 Look, we talk about Tawakul.
00:07:10.420 Tawakul is part of Tawheed.
00:07:11.700 Yes.
00:07:12.240 Okay.
00:07:13.400 Will you tell a Pope to pray for you?
00:07:18.900 No, why would I ask Pope to pray for him?
00:07:20.740 He needs to pray for himself.
00:07:21.740 He's doing shirk.
00:07:23.200 He needs to ask guidance.
00:07:24.360 I can show you evidence.
00:07:25.740 Yeah.
00:07:26.100 Evidence from Nathim, Nathim Al-Qabani, Nathim, Shaykh Nathim.
00:07:33.960 Okay.
00:07:34.240 From him, saying to Pope Benedict XVI, do du'a for me.
00:07:41.900 Okay.
00:07:44.000 I want your reaction on this.
00:07:45.840 No, I mean, for me, it's like me going to a Hindu and saying, can you go to your false 1.00
00:07:49.780 deities and pray for me? 0.63
00:07:51.040 Well, in effect, it's like you're approving that.
00:07:54.240 It's there.
00:07:55.180 It's there for everyone to see.
00:07:57.160 It's there for everyone to see Ali, brother.
00:08:00.600 Well, to me, that's very problematic.
00:08:02.560 And this is the reason why we're just saying to new Muslims, this is from Lily J, but other 0.99
00:08:06.720 Muslims, new Muslims, to be careful who you take from. 1.00
00:08:09.280 It's very, very important, guys, because, look, where she went, what they're doing is
00:08:12.840 khair in the sense with feeding people, coming to them.
00:08:15.140 We're not denying this.
00:08:16.500 We're not saying they're bad people.
00:08:17.800 We're saying the ideology.
00:08:18.660 The Hindus do the same thing. 0.90
00:08:19.860 The Hindus, they feed people. 0.52
00:08:21.280 They do the, you know, all of that.
00:08:23.180 Does that mean that their creed is correct? 0.78
00:08:25.060 No.
00:08:25.540 This is where we need to differentiate.
00:08:27.100 The Christians in their churches, so many of them do really great works.
00:08:32.400 They take the migrants. 1.00
00:08:33.940 They take the addicted, the people that are addicted, the poor and that, and they give them 0.97
00:08:39.180 food and that.
00:08:40.160 Does that mean that their creed is correct? 0.78
00:08:42.160 No, it's not.
00:08:42.620 So, subhanAllah. 0.97
00:08:43.480 It's not about, look, we love for the sake of Allah and we dislike for the sake of Allah.
00:08:50.700 Yes.
00:08:51.280 You know, we don't dislike people.
00:08:53.340 This is very important to show.
00:08:54.980 Yes, we dislike the action.
00:08:56.140 We dislike the action of people.
00:08:57.960 Once them people leave that action, they become our beloved brothers.
00:09:03.540 Exactly. 0.98
00:09:03.860 So, people get this, oh, Muslims do hate, Muslims do hate. 1.00
00:09:07.180 No, we don't hate. 0.99
00:09:08.000 We hate kufr. 0.62
00:09:09.400 We hate shaitan. 1.00
00:09:10.420 We hate evil deeds.
00:09:12.840 This is what we hate.
00:09:13.840 But you as a person, we don't hate you.
00:09:16.000 Exactly.
00:09:16.360 One thing I would say to Lily Jay is because you asked Sha'i J.B.T. about Tawheed, about
00:09:19.960 Quran, and you say, for example, is Jesus a god?
00:09:23.700 And Sha'i J.B.T. answer, and you get really satisfied. 0.64
00:09:25.380 You say, yeah, of course, because you already believe in your fitrah, which is that Jesus
00:09:28.780 cannot be God.
00:09:31.220 A man cannot be a man. 1.00
00:09:32.540 So, what you need to understand here is that there's association happening because Islam
00:09:36.580 is one, worshiping God alone.
00:09:39.040 So, if you were told, no, Lily, you have to go through a saint to go to God or ask for
00:09:44.620 a saint, you would say, what's the difference between Islam and Christianity?
00:09:47.440 I accepted Islam.
00:09:48.400 Catholicism.
00:09:48.840 Yeah, Catholicism is like that.
00:09:50.280 That's why I'm saying, Lily Jay, please, sister, be careful.
00:09:52.680 I've messaged you on Instagram about the prayer mass as well, alhamdulillah.
00:09:56.720 It's still there, and you don't need to go through me.
00:09:58.640 You can go to salahplus.com.
00:09:59.720 I was just sitting in contact with you if you want to learn how to pray salah.
00:10:02.040 But what we're seeing is, be very careful because you are obviously vulnerable in the
00:10:06.300 sense where you're a new Muslim, and these things can make you, you know, because it's
00:10:09.260 an emotional thing where you're like, oh, but they're doing so much good.
00:10:11.140 We don't deny that.
00:10:12.300 We're seeing, be careful because you don't want to end up doing an action that makes you
00:10:15.680 fall into something that's a major sin.
00:10:17.720 Hatim al-Tai, Hatim al-Tai was at the time of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.
00:10:21.800 Hatim al-Tai, he was so known of his good character and generosity, yeah, that he became
00:10:30.440 a proverb, a saying in generosity.
00:10:33.000 He say, akramu min Hatim al-Tai, more generous than Hatim al-Tai.
00:10:36.760 He reached the epitome of generosity.
00:10:40.320 You know what he used?
00:10:41.380 He would, if someone comes, he would slaughter a horse for them.
00:10:44.240 His slaves, if they would find, if they would bring him someone as a guest, he would 0.95
00:10:51.360 free them for the sake, because they, that's how, and look how good he did and that.
00:10:58.780 And then, once Aisha, um al-Mu'miniyah, she asked the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
00:11:04.020 about Hatim al-Tai, if he is, he said to her he has never mentioned Allah jalla wa
00:11:09.240 ala in his life, so how, yeah, how would he, how would he come to, uh, to be, exactly,
00:11:17.300 I'm sorry, maybe he was doing that, because one of the first, he was pretty Islamic, but
00:11:21.300 I'm still saying, I'm still saying, Allah is not going to forgive him because he used
00:11:26.220 to feed them that.
00:11:27.100 We have one thing, doing good deeds is one thing, but there is, if you, if you do, if
00:11:34.800 you oppress the duty with Allah, which is if you commit shirk, it doesn't matter how 0.97
00:11:40.700 many, we came to their deeds and we made it like dust.
00:11:47.300 Yes, yes, exactly, so it's like, for example, if I was good to everybody, uh, you know,
00:11:51.680 if Lili J, you're watching this, if I was good to everyone else, but I was going home
00:11:55.060 and punching my mom in the face, would you say, would you say I'm a good person or a
00:11:57.940 bad person? 0.85
00:11:58.360 You are a person of Jahannam wa al-Iya wa bi-Allah.
00:12:01.280 So, if I don't give the rights of Allah, it doesn't matter what good I'm doing to anyone 0.80
00:12:04.500 else, that's why it's important, Lili J, when you're doing ChatGPT and talks about
00:12:07.580 Allah, His wonders, His rights, this falls under that, inshaAllah.
00:12:10.520 So it's just a little thing for us to be careful and not just you, it's just to anyone
00:12:13.640 that's why we must be careful because they are a great misguidance.
00:12:17.220 And can I say something more?
00:12:19.780 He had a foul mouth.
00:12:21.500 Look, the man is dead and I don't want to speak about it, but we're just saying the things
00:12:26.420 that I've known.
00:12:28.140 We're not lying about the man.
00:12:29.980 I'm not going to go even into lots of other things that he used to do.
00:12:33.960 I'm not going to go into them.
00:12:35.760 But a man like him in his stance and that, he was foul-mouthed, especially against the
00:12:42.260 Salafis, whom he calls Wahhabis. 0.99
00:12:45.200 You understand?
00:12:46.420 Anybody that is not on his way and that, he is a man that loves to live in London and
00:12:53.980 Paris and so, you know what I mean?
00:12:57.340 Yeah.
00:12:58.860 Let alone the free mixing, let alone other things.
00:13:03.340 I'm not going to go into, the man is dead.
00:13:05.300 He is with Allah and Allah will judge him according to his deeds.
00:13:09.740 Yeah?
00:13:10.280 So we're not going to go.
00:13:11.720 But can you imagine being in that status and have a foul-mouth?
00:13:17.640 Says obscenities and stuff like that.
00:13:19.880 Speaking from the waist below.
00:13:22.260 I mean, it doesn't be for anyone.
00:13:23.960 But that's all we want to say, inshallah.
00:13:25.620 Share this with Sister Lily Jai.
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00:13:44.400 As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
00:13:46.460 As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.