Ali Dawah - July 07, 2026


LILY JAY MESSAGED ME - TRUTH WILL COME OUT


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21 minutes

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4,557

Sentence count

17

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Misogyny

2

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Toxicity

5

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Hate speech

11

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Summary

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Abc is investigating one of the most prominent Muslim women in the Muslim world, Sister Lilly Jeay. Is she guilty of something? Is she innocent? Is it possible that she has a disease of the heart?

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00:00:00.000 i do this with andrew tate i've done it with all other influences i don't just jump on their necks
00:00:04.960 i always assume the best it could have been because of this it could be that you know why
00:00:08.560 for my own nephs instead of looking for the hunt of others like how can i catch them out
00:00:12.560 oh yeah you know i'm so happy no no no no
00:00:20.240 this could be a sin that somebody's done we cannot use that and be like oh there we go
00:00:25.200 with all due respect i'm going to assume the best and say that lilly j is free from this unless
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00:00:59.520 members your your uncles your brothers your husbands whoever it is inshallah brothers and
00:01:07.360 sisters and dear friends i'm here in the holy land in mecca and subhanallah obviously came for
00:01:12.640 a little break with my family and there's been these rumors going around about sister lilly jay
00:01:17.920 now as you guys know i've done many videos couple of videos pertaining to herself
00:01:20.800 her daughter etc and those who know me know me i don't look for people's downfall i don't know
00:01:26.120 for people's like oh oh my gosh i'm so happy you know i found that there are people who there who
00:01:29.920 have a disease of the heart which we've spoken about two days ago of accusing myself and get
00:01:33.600 absolutely embarrassed and humiliated uh you know and he's probably going to be watching this as
00:01:36.960 well uh people like that who are looking for down hunting down for people like oh my gosh yes
00:01:41.120 jealousy envy and i don't accuse people of jealousy easily maybe the first person first two people
00:01:46.860 whatever i'm accusing of who are trying to stand on myself so when it comes to this stuff guys
00:01:51.220 it's not something that people should be happy about and i'm not saying this fact or fiction
00:01:53.880 right now i'm not saying anything i'm just saying that we should and this principle is given to us
00:01:58.500 from what in the quran in surah noor why did the believing men and women not think good of them
00:02:03.860 selves meaning would you think you'll do such a thing no then why would you accuse others of but
00:02:09.660 when people have a disease of the heart and think like that and i'm not seeing everyone because
00:02:13.780 there are people who might have right to suspicion which i'm going to come to later we're going to
00:02:17.740 analyze inshallah these videos abc abc is someone that is funded a organization that is funded by
00:02:24.440 zionists okay they're pro-zionists etc for them i'm not going to say funded but they're pro-zionists
00:02:28.180 okay so recently lily jay done talking about islamophobia the government etc so to me i find
00:02:33.340 it very odd that abc for some reason does some deep investigation on lily jay this shows that
00:02:37.880 her dawah that she's doing is working now when i say dawah i'm not saying that she is extremely
00:02:41.560 knowledgeable i believe sadly that you need to understand there's an inferior conflict that 0.99
00:02:45.000 muslims have and this is our biggest problem but because she's brought in her blue eyes and she's
00:02:49.480 talking about islam it's gaining mass attention and people are flocking to islam and i believe
00:02:54.760 this could be a reason why they've done this investigation now does this mean that the things
00:02:58.700 that they've brought forward is not true or false i'm not saying that i'm just saying bear in mind
00:03:02.920 that the enemies of islam are looking for the downfall of the believers what we're going to
00:03:07.600 do in this israel is going to be reading that article and from the article we're going to go
00:03:11.540 to these ai images now myself personally i contacted sister lilly j and i'm not going to
00:03:17.480 go into the detail of the message she sent to me in a nutshell what i can say because i can't expose
00:03:20.540 it is that in a nutshell she said she is going to come out public about it the same thing muslim 0.59
00:03:24.560 posted on x that she's going to come out public about it that's well and good i'm not like like i
00:03:30.160 said before i wanted to help her to dispel this and this video is going to be good assumptions i'm
00:03:35.520 going to make this very clear some people might think i'm foolish stupid but i am going to assume
00:03:39.420 the best like allah says in the quran why did the believers not think good of himself i asked myself 0.89
00:03:42.960 would i do such a thing no scamming thief etc no so i'm not going to assume the worst in her and
00:03:49.680 we're going to come to all the accusations one by one so firstly i want to start off with this
00:03:55.480 footage that's been circulated in 2023 where sister lily jay and her husband or this person
00:04:01.320 who is in the footage who is um doing an act of robbery now i'm going to start my good assumptions
00:04:07.980 with this the footage that you can see on the screen broncis i'm going to be very clear and
00:04:11.740 transparent to the point this could be potentially broncis like i said before this could be that
00:04:17.360 before she was a muslim this could be a sin that somebody's done we cannot use that and be like oh 0.74
00:04:22.020 there we go with all due respect i'm going to assume the best and say that lady j is free from 0.99
00:04:27.980 this unless proven otherwise every believer's position would be what would assume the best we 0.96
00:04:33.980 don't want to be stupid we're not saying be dumb and oh no no no no people who have suspicion i'm 0.97
00:04:38.960 not saying that they have no representation they can have a question but to then come and say she's 0.99
00:04:42.540 definitely a thief we don't know that yet so let's start off with that i believe the answer should be
00:04:47.500 we should assume the best and wait for the reply to come out otherwise we're going to be blameworthy
00:04:52.640 and if you're going to look for the hunt of the believers allah will find you no the footage that
00:04:56.180 you can see this is of sister lady jay and her husband of some chinese person or whatever it's
00:05:01.400 for that matter that they um told them to come with the man there was some crypto thing going
00:05:06.020 on etc and they took the bag they were caught and whatever is for that matter now when i'm looking
00:05:10.840 at this i'm going to say the only thing i can say fair is this this was her past this was something
00:05:15.560 that she'd done and she's a new person i'm going to assume the best i can assume the best that the
00:05:20.940 prophet that the sahaba said yes if we saw our brother drenched in alcohol we'll say somebody
00:05:24.960 poured it over her head if we saw him on the mountain say i am your lord and you are my servant
00:05:28.280 thinks he's quoting a verse of the quran we have to assume the best so that's what i'm going to do
00:05:33.640 i'm going to go with that and i'm happy people calling you no problem i'm going to assume the
00:05:37.400 same what this is why they are doing this is what happened now moving on to the report now when we
00:05:45.720 go to the report on abc don't sisters let's just analyze that a little bit further okay so i'm
00:05:51.800 going to go to the bit inshallah where it says untangling untangling the lady j foundation in
00:05:56.120 uganda it is illegal so she's saying that she has a little j foundation now we have found out that
00:06:01.080 basically it is not a registered charity okay now obviously we need to be fair and say this is this
00:06:07.160 should be a registered charity because at the end of the day people should take that well we have a
00:06:11.000 charity we are run by the charity commission your question is scrutinized yes if we do something
00:06:15.000 wrong we get told about the commission so i think it's only fair that if people are donating which
00:06:19.880 we don't know what amounts of donating it is only fair that it should be regulated by a charity
00:06:23.800 commission and it should be registered and uganda which the abc has said here as well is that they
00:06:29.240 have to be registered you can't have an orphanage without that okay another thing do people have a
00:06:33.640 right to have a question mark and say hold on a second there is a past of theft even though
00:06:38.680 someone could repent yes there might be that thing whatever people have a right to that suspect i
00:06:43.400 understand they might say okay you know what we're not saying she hasn't changed but it'll be good
00:06:47.000 to just get some answers i think that is fair analysis i would say if someone's a new beginning
00:06:51.000 there was some sahaba who does some really bad stuff burying your daughters alive yes their
00:06:55.880 daughters are alive we're not going to come say they shouldn't have any daughters anymore do you 0.92
00:06:58.440 get it so we can say islam can change someone i would say that so it says uganda registration
00:07:02.600 services bureau initially confirmed to abc news verified that there were no orphanage registered
00:07:06.760 under the lily j foundation name or adanur which is the real name if i'm mistaken the the name lily
00:07:12.360 j has given to orphanage on her website abc news very verified sent questions to lily j foundation
00:07:17.240 about the orphanage but did not respond several days after our questions were sent a registration
00:07:22.360 was lodged for a lily j lily's foundation limited is the status on the uganda registration services
00:07:28.600 bureau website elicits as not complaint compliant it is unclear if the registration is related to
00:07:34.360 lily j foundation verify has been has been unable to find an independent material uh corroborating
00:07:41.160 the existence of this orphanage or find any aid operators or government officials in uganda
00:07:45.480 familiar with the foundation the former ceo of the world vision australia and mikhail australia
00:07:51.080 australia director tim costello said orphanages were frequently used to exploit public's goodwill
00:07:56.200 pictures of kids in orphanages tug at donors hearts like nothing else now so in a nutshell
00:08:02.520 from the abc thing we cannot establish or see that there's anything it's just saying basically
00:08:07.800 it's not registered okay the question to ask is that why it's not registered we have a right to
00:08:11.320 to ask a question and say why it's not registered and i'm sure lily jay is going to come up with
00:08:15.200 answers to this uh to these questions inshallah now the first thing is firm is that we've come
00:08:20.140 to know this picture that you see um was ai generated and this website took that so austral
00:08:27.140 global humanitarian excellence award okay now it seems like the website has been taken down
00:08:31.660 and that this means because i'm not trying to deal with fancy okay that this was uh faked okay
00:08:36.900 this was not something real and someone that's connected to sister Lily Jay is the one giving
00:08:42.580 the award or connected to this so-called organization that the website has been taken
00:08:46.960 down from now again does this mean that she is a thief and a scam artist etc no we need to know
00:08:53.540 and ask why and I'm sure sister Lily Jay will come up with answers what was the need to pretend
00:08:57.820 an award there might be some genuine reasons for that next one here is a picture of the video
00:09:04.900 orphanage now if you look at the picture closely this is somebody who came to me and said listen
00:09:09.220 the girl's hand looks like noodles or something like that for that matter okay and obviously i
00:09:13.760 was defending cincerely and i said listen habibi it can come across that but it's not that deep
00:09:18.760 and it's not to the level like she's got seven fingers or eight fingers etc what you came trying
00:09:21.680 to say so i'm not going to put this on and say okay this means she's definitely a scam artist
00:09:27.260 or thief now this video is also in gaza yes and i'm going to go to this as well here it's saying
00:09:32.360 that the man's hand has disappeared and i said to be honest that is one angle you can look at it
00:09:36.540 or another angle is that for example this material is just overlaid on his hand yes and it looks like
00:09:43.280 his hand is through it but it's not you can understand there's a great possibility that can
00:09:48.960 be the case because of the material the material is on his hand it's landed on his hand the weight
00:09:52.280 on his hand so it looks like his hand's going through the material again i'm not going to come
00:09:56.800 and say that's, you know, something to stick on.
00:09:59.720 This one here again, her hand, Cicely J's hand,
00:10:03.560 the left hand, the screen is overlapping it,
00:10:06.020 which means she's not in front of the screen.
00:10:07.860 This is AI manipulated.
00:10:09.360 Okay, but we can say, look, for example,
00:10:11.660 we can say, for example, that she is just doing,
00:10:16.220 she might come see her, she is AI,
00:10:17.620 but it being AI does not mean she's stealing
00:10:20.700 or she's a theft or she's a scammer.
00:10:22.580 It might be like, you can't say,
00:10:23.680 okay, what's the reason of using AI?
00:10:25.020 yeah what is the reason of using ai we need to ask this question okay it might be that she can't
00:10:30.240 afford a van like that to have a sign like that she's done it no problem you get unless she makes
00:10:35.420 a clear caption of like oh i'm on the ground that's a different story next one here is the
00:10:39.920 most popular one which is showing this orphanage in uganda so you can see obviously it's clear here
00:10:46.040 you know there's you've got the blue line then you've got that window door and then you've got
00:10:51.440 the sign and then the next week she's not now easily i can come and say for example is this
00:10:56.360 the same video or is this the back of the building is this the same video uh in the sense or for
00:11:02.560 example ai has been used it can be that ai is used it can be that this is an orphanage that is
00:11:07.940 doing the work etc and she couldn't go on the ground for whatever reason and she ai'd it look
00:11:14.820 it can be that it's ai ai being ai does not mean that she's stealing funds or she's a scammer we
00:11:19.760 cannot say that we can say she's using ai why are you using ai what's the reason to use ai we can
00:11:25.440 ask these questions so we need to be very careful guys and just not dishing out yeah she's defeated
00:11:30.040 we knew calm down we are not at that stage our first stage is assuming the best and i'm making
00:11:35.460 those assumptions okay and we're going to come about uh talk about alhamdulillah the quran's
00:11:40.920 are off to sudan okay good so in this video you can see lily jay and her stepdaughter that's not
00:11:45.380 a real daughter by the way a stepdaughter uh saying the quran's are off the sudan okay good
00:11:49.560 now it's clear it's ai or this green screen okay now are they saying that is an actual image look
00:11:56.440 you need to understand sometimes that people cannot show or there's no footage for whatever
00:12:00.960 reason argument saying if they just show in a van that's got boxes it's just similar like with us
00:12:05.880 with our charity when the mats come we record it we record it from top down us carrying it opening
00:12:11.180 in the boxes counting it we are a charity with you with transparency especially at today's time
00:12:15.260 with charities we are dealing so here you can easily see that they're just trying to symbolize
00:12:20.040 that it's being delivered you cannot come and say that's a scam okay here in this which is a brother
00:12:26.240 said that i sent to me the guy is not even replying saying or they're making it seem like
00:12:31.380 they're speaking to him yes it's i mean you can say it's a bit deceiving but again okay yeah
00:12:38.760 As-salamu alaykum
00:12:39.540 Maybe the guy's not speaking to them
00:12:41.060 It is a bit like
00:12:42.260 Okay why would you find
00:12:43.060 The need to do that
00:12:43.640 We need to ask
00:12:44.360 Why would you find
00:12:45.100 The need to do that
00:12:45.440 Again we cannot come and say
00:12:46.820 Thank you God
00:12:47.540 It's fair
00:12:48.680 Now the next one 1.00
00:12:49.560 We're going to use from Gaza 1.00
00:12:50.440 And like I said before 0.98
00:12:51.400 I work with humanitarian causes
00:12:52.700 For over a decade
00:12:53.780 And there's certain things
00:12:54.780 That I can pick up on
00:12:55.520 And these people
00:12:56.280 Who are on the ground
00:12:56.900 We can find them
00:12:57.780 And we can
00:12:58.600 We will find them
00:12:59.280 Inshallah 1.00
00:12:59.540 And I'm sure they're going to come
00:13:00.920 And clear Stila Jade's name out
00:13:02.180 And I'm sure Stila Jade's 0.93
00:13:02.900 Going to comply
00:13:03.900 With myself
00:13:05.600 Or whoever's trying to help her
00:13:06.800 Here
00:13:06.960 Here's the footage
00:13:08.020 let's watch from gaza bakery
00:13:09.060 okay good so here you can see in the footage the brother point this is what brother's pointing
00:13:21.040 out to me and me assuming the best i was in this career with the brother the guy's hands move
00:13:25.620 together like very very together i said habibi look it can be a possibility you know i'm if i'm
00:13:32.900 doing something we're filming and i'm recording something sometimes i say let's do sporty
00:13:36.940 language and sometimes people express that you know like for example come and said i love my wife
00:13:42.300 or i love you and if i had somebody else saying the same thing they might copy my handle you get
00:13:47.280 it it might be the same motion that we do i'm not going to use that and say oh definitely you know
00:13:53.040 let's carry on inshallah see if there's anything else that's popping on the video
00:13:56.760 so here is something he pointed out in the background you can see the banner
00:14:04.280 good and there's a machine the red machine there let's carry on
00:14:08.920 now here what i pointed out was where's that red machine gone now it's a possibility that
00:14:12.680 the brother is standing in the way yes so we'll assume the best
00:14:18.280 we talked about the girl's hand over there like i said it doesn't look that deep fingers a little 0.72
00:14:22.760 bit thin that's fine
00:14:27.880 okay here the brother's saying where did the banner go where's and i'm like yo habibi i've
00:14:36.160 done humanitarian aid banners are used sometimes they're not necessarily mean they are there
00:14:40.820 unless it's a plaque a proper you put there other than that these banners are used for charities to
00:14:46.660 show that it's just done by them it doesn't mean they stay there so it's moved about a lot so when
00:14:52.040 it says oh look at the back the banner's gone yes it is bro i've worked with causes i'm not gonna
00:14:55.640 like mention names there's nothing wrong with them not that there's nothing they're doing
00:14:58.620 anything wrong they put banners to show look this like you see on water tanks they'll put like for
00:15:03.640 example this specific charities their name yeah but it doesn't stay there it's just there to
00:15:08.200 represent that your aid is working and we have guys on the ground and we're showing you they're
00:15:12.080 not going to leave that banner there so moving the banner is not a deep issue to me and he's
00:15:15.100 you can see you said look yep there's a valid point
00:15:16.940 so you can see now there's oh but the banner reappeared no these are different footages
00:15:29.260 they could be recorded two hours ago then another oh we need to record again this bit
00:15:33.100 these are fine because to show the beneficiary the thing so you can see now the banner appears there
00:15:37.840 now here somebody will come and say oh where did the banner disappear to again
00:15:43.400 these can be different footages just because you're watching the video now
00:15:46.280 doesn't mean it was filmed then i could record something now come back tomorrow try same thing
00:15:50.120 and carry on again you see the banner there lady j foundation
00:16:07.640 so that was that yes so we cannot jump to assumptions and say
00:16:11.640 often now one thing that i would say is that the lily j foundation or whoever's for that matter
00:16:15.880 it has to be under a regulated charity commission it has to be no matter who it is this applies to
00:16:22.120 everyone if it's not because we how do we how do we know we need to know the donors need to know
00:16:27.160 where the funds are going this is very very critical that's one thing that i would say yes
00:16:31.000 good so here we spoke about the hand etc now these guys on the ground i have connections yes
00:16:46.360 with charities massive hundreds of millions of pounds and i believe we will find these people
00:16:53.080 and they will bring to light that these are real individuals that that exist it's as simple as that
00:16:58.660 okay we can find out that's not problem and i believe sister will come out sooner or later
00:17:02.500 and show you that that is the case yes and like i said before uganda i know workers on the ground
00:17:10.460 gaza again i know people on the ground and sudan a few other places we know so it's not hard for
00:17:17.840 us to find these people and be like okay where are these locations etc now abc news said that
00:17:21.820 they did not know anything about this bakery there is nothing with location etc okay for that matter
00:17:26.860 now like i said to you before these things could be brought to light very quickly and very fast
00:17:32.000 now one thing that i would like to say is that we are going to see inshallah very soon
00:17:37.000 things coming out becoming more clear what i would say is this from sisters at this stage
00:17:42.340 i do this with andrew tate i've done it with all other influences i don't just jump on their necks
00:17:46.960 i always assume the best it could have been because of this it could be you know why for
00:17:51.540 my own nefs instead of looking for the hunt of others like wow can i catch them out oh yeah you
00:17:56.220 No, I'm so happy.
00:17:57.480 No, no, no, no.
00:17:58.140 That's a disease of the heart.
00:17:59.500 Yes, like individuals have. 0.99
00:18:00.760 Yes, call themselves haji.
00:18:02.100 They need to go haji and repent for their assumptions.
00:18:06.680 Okay, and which we saw the utter embarrassment
00:18:08.720 that the individual had a couple of days ago
00:18:10.540 accusing me of sending money to my own self
00:18:12.600 because I referenced the name
00:18:13.860 and he thought that was a company. 1.00
00:18:15.160 Absolutely, Allah will humiliate you.
00:18:16.860 If you look for the fault of others, Allah will humiliate you.
00:18:19.360 Now, however, I want to speak about those
00:18:22.460 who are genuinely having questions.
00:18:25.600 there are questions that need to be answered and they have a right i cannot take that away from
00:18:31.300 them i'm not going to come and say oh you assume the best you're the best no no no no there are
00:18:35.400 people who have a right for questions these questions for example following questions i
00:18:40.960 think everyone has a right to answer why sister sister jay your organization is not a charity
00:18:47.280 which stops people from seeing the information on where the money's going this is very very
00:18:51.540 important whoever is done by do you know what i'm trying to say number two why she why there's been
00:18:55.920 a fabrication of the award that doesn't exist i think this is a valid question for the people on
00:19:00.060 the other side to ask yes okay even the people have a good assumption we would like to know as
00:19:04.680 well i think you know we need to be fair fabricating air images of her uh receiving the award again we
00:19:09.660 would like to know what was the reason behind doing that sister there might be a totally valid
00:19:13.160 reason so we assume the best in yourself um another issue for example of course it's your
00:19:18.760 passed but it'd be nice for you to bring it to life because people do have a right to question
00:19:22.320 okay in the past if certain crimes were committed which is connected to money as well it'd be nice
00:19:28.920 to give us a thing and say you know what look whatever it was in a bad place or whatever it
00:19:33.640 is for that matter for some clarity okay inshallah why are there ai videos uh being made of the
00:19:39.600 charity etc now there was something about people saying that there was um the the incident actually
00:19:43.920 got attacked in the with the water in turkey is fabricated again i don't really want to answer
00:19:49.580 that's not really that deep okay okay so in a nutshell uh that's uh what it is uh i messaged
00:19:55.280 uh obviously sister lily uh she did tell me i can't go into detail uh that uh and we just wanted
00:20:01.200 to ask questions so we can defend her on our better and we hope that sister lily jay can come
00:20:06.320 out inshallah will come out and we have no doubt about that and like i said the people on the ground
00:20:10.400 we will sooner or later like you know find out that these people are real people who are doing
00:20:14.400 real aid work uh but the thing of uh sister lady jay um the uganda thing not being registered
00:20:20.440 uh the fabricated things etc uh the past these just bring other people to question and spouse
00:20:27.200 out of control we want to i want to personally help sister dj for the sake of allah nothing from
00:20:30.720 her of uh at all for the sake of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to bring clarity to this and to assume
00:20:35.260 the best in her as our sister in islam and we hope this matter is resolved as soon as possible
00:20:40.340 inshallah and i will let you guys know further as these things go along because it's very very
00:20:44.500 important especially in today's climate that we are registered charities and the matter is clear
00:20:50.020 and yes there are people out there who are trustworthy who cannot reach charities who do
00:20:53.220 non-profit organizations who are clear with the ummah who have a good standing this is very very
00:20:57.620 important for us to work with people who have a good reputation alhamdulillah around the community
00:21:02.580 till next time assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh