Ali Dawah - November 29, 2025
MAKE ME A TRUE MUSLIM - SURPISING SHAHADAH
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Jummah Kutbahayah is a podcast where we talk about all things related to Islam. In this episode, we have a special guest who is a Christian convert to Islam and a believer in the teachings of the Holy Qur'an.
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if i prove to you the prophet mohammed is the final prophet and the quran is the final message
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would you accept islam yeah i would okay so what i would say is this
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link is there donate now yeah it will teach you how to pray salah yeah so um once you take a shahada
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you can use this to learn how to pray salah thank you no promises okay so you had a question i have
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a question so i'm an orthodox christian romanian yes although obviously the quran does interest me and
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i believe that it can it can be the truth although i do have a question is it true that jesus was like
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obviously in the bible jesus never says who his god is could it be a possibility that allah could be like
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connected to jesus oh no 100 so while she is this so yeah so so yeah you might not no no it's fine
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it's fine it's fine no you don't it's fine you're a catholic um no orthodox christian
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orthodox christian okay western or eastern um romanian uh yes eastern yeah yeah okay so yeah
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so what we believe we believe in jesus so as muslims i believe in jesus i believe in jesus i believe in
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jesus's mother mary in the quran there's a whole chapter called mary okay so we have to believe in
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mary yes we believe in jesus we believe for example he had a miraculous she had a miraculous birth yes
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now the jews what the jews believe is that they insult jesus and mary so they believe we don't
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believe this they believe that mary had intimacy outside of marriage and that jesus was born yes so
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they cursed jesus and they curse uh mary as muslims well what the christians done is they went to the other
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extreme so the christians came and said okay the jews curse jesus we say jesus is god so you've got
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two extremes jews who degrade jesus christians who elevate him to a level of god muslims come in the
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middle and say hold on a second we don't insult him we believe in him he is a prophet of god we believe
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in mary jesus had a miraculous birth we believe jesus is the messiah we believe in that jesus worshiped the one
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one true god we don't and his second coming as well and we believe that jesus is not god so what
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they what christians believe is that jesus is god do you believe jesus is god no i believe jesus is a
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picture of a representation of him okay so when you mean representation do you mean he was sent by god
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yeah okay good so we believe that as well so what we see is the following if you look into the bible
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john chapter uh what was it just 3 17 17 3 yes john chapter 17 verse 3 jesus is saying that so they may
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know you and have eternal life the only true god and jesus whom you sent if jesus is god why is he
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saying the one true god is the father he can't be god so jesus is saying what the father is the one
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true god now we don't call god father we call him allah yeah yes so what we're saying is this to start
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we believe in jesus we believe in his miracles we believe in mary we say god cannot be a man
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do you believe god can be a man like me i believed god is a man okay do you believe god can be a man
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like me i sleep okay look i sleep can god sleep does god need to sleep no good i get hungry would god
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get hungry no okay i can die can god die no good so god cannot be a man good so we say jesus was sent by
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god like if you look into the book of acts in the bible chapter 2 verse 22 it says jesus of nazareth
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a man he's a man chosen by who chosen by god and with wonders miracles and signs that god did through
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him and you're a witness to it so nowhere in the entire bible jesus ever says i am god or worship me
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in the contrary he always says the one true god is the father i myself cannot do nothing as i see i
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judge and my judgment is just for i don't seek my will but the will of my father why is jesus keep
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bringing up the father the father the father the father if he is god he would say it's me so you can
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see clearly that so you can see clearly that the one true god is the father so we believe we call him
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allah so that's why we believe that jesus is a man he was a prophet and he was sent by god
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oh you know that he prayed like muslims do i didn't know that if you go to the chapter of luke 22
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around verse 38 he he went in the garden of god's enemy yeah he went on his knees and he prostrated
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they said father take this cup away from me that you will be done not mine so christians before at the
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beginning they used to pray like that they used to prostrate and uh like we muslims do but then with the
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time they change they changed it since you are eastern orthodox some eastern orthodox they still
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do it they still prostrate like muslims do although would you consider disgraceful if you were to
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convert no would you be us no no do you mean do you mean us convert christianity no no to us the
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reason we call you revert like you're a river you're coming back to your original place we believe you
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guys we were all born muslims it's just that your family were christians that made you christian
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yeah so what we say is that sister when you come to islam you're coming back to your origins you're
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coming to your actual family imagine imagine imagine you have your mother and father you was adopted
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by some people and then you find out they're your mother and father and you come back to your mother
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and father they're your real mother and father do you get what i'm trying to say so in that instance
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sister if you believe like you believe god is one yeah he's not a man or a woman he doesn't have a mother and
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father he doesn't have children good do you believe that he's not a statue good all right so you believe
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we call him allah okay so would you accept that god is the all-knowing so just one thing just one thing
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by the way jesus called god allah you know in aramaic yeah the language of jesus allah is god but uh
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since it's been like uh in in arabic it's the same in aramaic is allah is allah is allah jesus used to
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call him allah yeah even even uh arab christians they call god allah so jesus even said that so you
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believe god is one good do you believe what do you believe about the prophet muhammad um
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do you know anything about him yeah i do um i do know that he had three people come to him no i
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think that's a different prophet no tell me um i forgot the name okay no it's fine i know about
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prophet muhammad okay what do you think of is he do you do you believe he's a prophet what do you believe
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he is um yeah no no do you believe that or do you want me to prove it i mean you can prove it to me
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yeah okay right so we say the following sister yeah so if i prove to you the prophet muhammad is
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the final prophet and if i prove the quran is the word of god would you accept islam sorry if i
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prove to you the prophet muhammad is the final prophet and the quran is the final message would
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you accept islam yeah okay so what i would say is this let's might take a couple of minutes okay so
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now the prophet muhammad peace be upon him he was known by his enemies to be the truthful so his enemies
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before islam came they knew him to be the truthful person they used to leave their belonging
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with them gold and money he used to look after it yeah because he was known to be a truthful
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person yeah so we have three options so we're looking at the psychology there's three options
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for prophet muhammad either he was a liar either he was a deluded person or he was saying the truth
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okay let's assess them one by one now when a person lies why do they lie what's the reason for
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lying to avoid the truth avoid the truth and also sometimes people lie to gain something yeah good
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now the prophet muhammad came and he was preaching the oneness of god in pagan arabia
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they used to have idols 360 idols that were made with their own hands so imagine they were
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worshipping something that they made with their own hands so the prophet muhammad came and said listen
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these are all man-made worship the one true god why are you worshipping something you made with your
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own hands yes allah says in the quran an idol if you like they used to put food in front of the idols
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yeah if a fly allah says in the quran if a fly was to come and eat that food the idol can't even
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protect the food against the fly so why are you worshipping the statue so now when the prophet muhammad came and
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was preaching about the oneness of god to worship allah alone they tried to persecute him now they
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said to him the following if he's a liar he would have taken this they said to him if you want money
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we'll give you money if you want woman we'll give you woman if you want states we'll give you status
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stop preaching about allah if he's a liar would you not take that and say okay you know what i was doing
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it for the money and the fame and i want to take it right yeah you know what he said he said if you
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used to give the sun on my left hand and the moon on my right hand i would never stop preaching what i'm
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preaching does that sound like a liar no because it means he's true to his cause he's saying listen
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forget the money and the car i mean the all that kind of stuff if you were to give me universes or
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the planets i'm not going to stop preaching what i'm preaching so he can't be a liar good now you might
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come and say he's maybe deluded now we have a story and the seerah seerah is the life of the prophet
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muhammad peace be upon him his son ibrahim died here the sun he's died when he died the moon eclipsed
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there was an eclipse so some of his companions ran to him and said oh oh measure of god this
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shows that you're a true prophet because your son died and the moon eclipsed now if he's deluded
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would you not use that to his opportunity and say yeah you see guys i am a true prophet would he not
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say that like like you know when the moon eclipsed and his son died if he's deluded he would use i'll
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give you an example if i said i'm a prophet of god and i said i can do miracles and all of a sudden
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you saw it's nighttime the sun goes up i'll say see i told you it might have got enough to do with me
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but i'll use that to my opportunity but see you see it was night you see i went sun see i'm a true
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prophet that's me lying and i'm deluded okay so when the prophet muhammad's son died and the moon
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eclipsed they said the reason the moon eclipsed is because your son died which means you're a true prophet
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he would have affirmed that and say yes do you know what he said he said no he said the moon
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don't eclipse for nobody's death so if he was deluded he would have taken an opportunity for
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that he rather denied it and said no the moon don't eclipse so he can't be deluded the only
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option is that he's a truthful person now how is he truthful he was standing on a mountain one day
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and he told the pagan arabs yeah who didn't like him hate didn't like him they said he said to them
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if i was to tell you there is an army behind this mountain coming to kill us all would you believe me
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they said of course we believe you he said okay he said we believe because you're a truthful
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person he said okay i'm telling you i'm the prophet of god they said no you're a liar so it shows that
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he was a truthful person he did not lie and he's not deluded so when it comes to his message sister
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the quran is the only scripture that hasn't been changed the bible has been changed and altered
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like you i don't know how many books you have as eastern orthodoxes uh 73 you have 73 the
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protestants of 66 the catholics of 82 83 something along those lines no catholic 73 73 so what i'm
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saying is the quran is the only scripture that has been preserved hasn't been changed yeah so what
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we're saying is that the quran has miracles in it i came to islam 13 years ago i studied different
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religions for about three and a half years the prophet muhammad has made prophecies that has come to
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like to be today i'll give you one example you know where's the tallest building today
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the prophet muhammad peace be upon him said 1400 years ago a time the day of judgment will not come
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until barefooted bedouins arab bedouins will race with one another to build tall buildings
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he said this 1400 years ago now who's he talking about he said barefooted bedouins who are these
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people do you know muhammad uh the the ruler in uh dubai yeah you know you know him you know there's a
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picture of him and his dad about 45 50 years ago the another one who's the ruler of dubai yeah him
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you know there's a picture of him and his father and they've they are not wearing any they're not
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wearing any shoes they're barefoot there's a picture of them you can find on google so the
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prophet muhammad said barefooted bedouins they were better with that camel herders yeah he said the time
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will come they will race with one another to build tall buildings how did he know this because now the
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tallest building is where 50 years ago they didn't even have socks on the same king ruler who's a
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trillionaire today how did the prophet muhammad know this miracle yes prophecies and there's
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there's many i can give you i just don't want to hold you guys here so it's cold as well yeah
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there are many i can give you 20 25 so many miracles the prophecies that he said you get it
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like he said at the time will come where women will be dressed by naked how can you be dressed by
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naked well you see sometimes you have women who are well the clothes that they wear is so tight
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it's as if they're naked but that's interesting because i would never think how could you be
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clothed but naked it's like an oxymoron but now you think okay the way women are dressed it's like
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you're clothed but you're actually naked because everyone can do you know what i'm trying to say
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so yes there's so many things that the prophet muhammad prophesized and it's all come to be so we say
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it is impossible for him to know it except it's from god almighty you know and the quran is preserved
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it hasn't it hasn't changed and there's many miracles in it i have another question so if you
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if i was to revert to a muslim yes islam yeah sorry nice one um if i was to revert to a muslim
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yeah would i have to wear a hijab no it's not a must it's it's it's not option it is it is something
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that is obliged for a woman to wear however what we say is that you not doing it doesn't take the
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fault of islam for example me shaving my beard is haram but i can still be a muslim but i'm sinning
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so what it is is that gradual steps nobody's saying overnight start wearing a niqab you get
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what i'm trying to say so what we're saying is don't worry he's here for security yeah yeah yeah
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he's got your back you know yes he's going yeah it is oblig it is an obligation however yeah however
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you don't you know what we say don't run before learning how to walk yeah that comes that's between
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you and allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and that would come with the time yeah you understand yeah maybe in the
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future we'd see oh i want to wear niqab but that's your own choice and your own but the best of
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thing is your salvation from the hellfire that's what is important so if i was to revert do you
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believe that i would be from peace among me yes yeah yeah 100 look let me put it like this sister when
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you become a muslim we believe all your previous sins are forgiven you're like a born baby it's like
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you're fresh yes and not only that for example all your sins are turned into good deeds yeah so now you
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you need to understand that obviously i came to islam 13 years ago you will be tested allah says
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in the quran don't say that you're going to say i'm a muslim and not be tested those tests are going
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to make you who you are i've been through a lot of tests i'll tell you i've been through ups and downs
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but let me tell you something when i look back i thank god for putting me through this test because
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it made me who i am and the prayers that i asked for i've asked for specific prayers and all of them
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have come true and why but god tests you because you know when you make a prayer god god prepares
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you for that prayer because if you want something whatever it is argument's sake i don't know you
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want um a business or this or or a good man good man in your life a husband or whatever it is yeah
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with god almighty all things are possible it's like imagine you go to a king who owns the earth
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and he says to you what do you want from me and you go oh can you give me an apple he's going to get offended
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he's going to say man i own everything and you want an apple for me are you mocking me when you go
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to god almighty with allah all things are possible ask him whatever you want be specific that's your
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lord that's who's created you and that's the reason why if you think about it is to stop for example
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your mother gave birth to you looked after you to this age yeah and you show gratitude to her
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and allah says that be grateful be with your parents obviously if they tell you to leave islam
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you don't follow them respectfully like my dad hated islam my dad kicked me at my house my dad
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slapped me when i became a muslim because my dad hates islam but i always have respect for him
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when it comes to my house i kiss his head even though when he insults me sometimes he insults me
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cusses me yeah he says to me come once he was watching tv he saw bin laden he said come your
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friends on tv i was like who's he talking about so he mocks me sometimes but the thing is my job is to
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have duty towards him and be respectful towards him so when you have that relation with god almighty
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sister today your heart is beating do you tell your heart to beat good you're breathing when you
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sleep do you say hey lungs carry on breathing yeah or i'm gonna die no did you eat food today
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yes did you eat a drink yes yes not alcohol yeah i'm joking okay good you slept yes good who is
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giving you all of this god god is giving you heart he's giving you life if i gave you 10 billion
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pounds but i said to you what's your name sister marina sister bruna if i said to you marina sorry
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marina sister marina if i said to you i'm gonna give you 10 billion pounds but tomorrow you're gonna die
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would you take it no good who gives you life every day god good so that means 10 billion pounds is not
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worth your life who gives you life every day god who makes your heart beat every day god who makes
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your stomach the food that you eat do you have to tell your stomach hey listen make it nutritional and
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make it good for me allah has created your kidney your liver there are trillions of cells in your body
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that make you stand up look at the blessing of your eye look at the blessing of the food imagine
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if we ate food and it was painful we enjoy food right yes there's pleasures that god almighty has given to
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us and he's telling the following this life is like a taster all the pleasures that we have like
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for example when you get married you have intimacy when you have food when you sleep all of these
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things are god saying to you here's a little taster but in paradise you're gonna have the best of the
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best so all god is saying is put me first and i will give you the world and the hereafter you know
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you asked something you asked about peace yeah peace you'll find it here in this book that you have
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got and i will find peace in that book would you be able to rewrite me right now yeah yeah sister like
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like i said alhamdulillah and and before we do that i'll say to you sister let me tell you something
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yeah like even with me yeah you know before this very place you know i used to come clubbing and
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partying here 16 i think 16 years ago i used to come clubbing and partying here there was a penthouse
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up there yeah every week i used to come here and i used to chase the world the money the girls the house
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etc all this kind of stuff yeah never brought me happiness you know why because you need to understand
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something our body our flesh is temporary we're gonna die the soul is eternal the soul will only
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be happy and content with that is eternal and that's the reason why i never found happiness be it the
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girls the clubbing the partying the holidays it never brought me happiness you know why because it
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was temporary i was keep giving the soul the wrong type of food so if you give the soul the real food
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which is what the remembrance of god you will have peace let me tell you something if they took everything
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from me wallahi i swear upon god if they took everything but not islam i'll be the most happiest
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person when you have peace i know why i'm here i know my destination i know where i'm going i don't
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need to follow this pressure that pressure and there's so much pressure of you women as well how
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to look the beauty industry look like this dress like this and they sexually objectify you in islam
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we say a woman is honorable you get it if you like if you say to me shake my hand i won't touch you
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because i have respect for you do you get it i believe that for example when you get married
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a muslim man for example you're right you are the price you're not red pill they say oh the man is
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the price no it's not in islam the woman is the price as a woman you have a right to ask for dowry
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so when you get married to a muslim man he has to pay you a dowry so that can be gold that can be
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card that can be money whatever it's up to you number two there's no 50 50 in islam he has to provide
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for everything in the house electric gas bill red petrol everything for the car clothes and your money is
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your money he's not allowed to touch your money yes and she's surprised she's like you know i should
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become a muslim long time ago she's like oh wait she's like i'm going to accept this time now she's
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like you know what i don't know in christianity you must obey your husband
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yes but you see these rights as well that's given it's not given in christianity it says
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it says the man is the head of the house and the head of the man is christ and the head of christ
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is god you know this this is by paul but even here you see jesus is not god because he's got a head
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and only that you know in christianity you know they believe that eve was the one who tempted adam
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to eat from the tree so all the evil is from so so you know what that means you know when you give
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birth they say the pain that you're going through is because of eve we don't believe that yeah so
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we be we don't believe that we're like why would you suffer a pain that something you've done so
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the original in islam in islam when a woman is in pain she's in jihad means struggle you reward not
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the other jihad talking about and you get a reward for the pain yeah and only that if you die you're a
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martyr in christianity you are told you're suffering because of what you've done how is that fair
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in christianity for example if a man rapes a woman he all he has to do is pay 50 shekels to the father
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and keep her imagine you're being told to marry a rapist but not only that not only that he can
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never divorce she can never divorce him you're not allowed to divorce in islam you have a right to
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divorce yes and not only that in islam a woman a man that rapes a woman he gets he gets punished
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cut to punishment yeah so there's so many rights anyways i don't want to hold you shahad that
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is anyone forcing you to accept islam it's your own will yeah okay so you can repeat after me
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yeah i shall do i bear witness i bear witness there is nothing there is nothing worthy of worship
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worship worship worship accept allah accept allah and the prophet muhammad and the
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peace be upon him peace be upon him he's his final messenger and jesus christ is
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i'll be honest with you i wasn't expecting that subhanallah bless you sister i'm gonna we're gonna
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have to give you a mat as well now thank you you're next
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i want my mom to be there good good perfect i was gonna ask the question um if i also go to like
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the mosque that i go thank you yeah yeah is even if my family aren't muslim could they come yes
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i know that women and men pray separate but if i would want like my father and my mother there
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while i take my father you can't they can they can like it might be like in a place of the mosque
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because men come and pray they will take it to a certain place if you want to take a shahada in a mosque
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yeah with my mom and my dad there yeah yeah yeah are they okay with it you know number 30 yeah
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that's what i was gonna that's what i am yeah that's what i am could i come yes let's do this
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sister um let's do this let me let me give you sister fedrika's number this is our sister's team
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who teaches how to pray salah yeah yeah i'm gonna give you her number she will teach both of you
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how to pray yeah so so you know this project that we have yeah we have um salah instructor we have
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the app it's called salah pro have you got android or apple okay download go search salah pro
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download our app the app has like for example um i'll show you it has the salah times for example
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you know what time to pray look it shows me the next prayer uh it has the kibla so you know the
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direction to pray it will help you find it so you see it helps you find the direction of kibla
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there's videos tutorials on how to pray here you can watch it so the app is for free yeah i'm going to
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give you sister fedrika's number yeah that's her number yeah no i'm just going to take take a picture of
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it okay i'll just say how is it so gain contact with her what we will do is inshallah if you want
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we can arrange the mosque then contact her what we can do is inshallah if you guys want we have our
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studio um in east london uh you can you can come you can do if you want it's up to you
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do you want to do it do you want to do your child in the mosque or with the muslims specifically mosque
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yeah yeah okay that's fine we'll arrange that inshallah so what we can do is this yeah you've
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got sister fedrika's number contact her sister marina okay contact her and she will help teach
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you how to pray salah yes so the salah instructions etc if you don't mind for example we will be we'll
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come with her as well inshallah if you want sometimes we look at like the stories etc of people we can
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film if you want it's totally up to you guys yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes you know what is
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yeah you know what is islam you know it's islam it's submission to allah yeah that's all it is yeah
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it's submission it's not some kind of like ideology out there submission and you follow
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the path of allah yeah you be good don't steal don't fornicate don't do this there are certain
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rules yeah you can look you can fall into sins it's fine as long as you repent in islam we don't
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believe look islam is for the sinners our religion doesn't believe that you have to be perfect it's not
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for the angels i'm a sinner i sin yeah i'm an islamic preacher i sin yes but it's about acknowledging
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repenting and when you repent you don't need to go to a pastor who's also a sinner how are you going
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and repenting to a sinner who's also a sinner we say you go straight to god you get it and that's
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what's beautiful about islam you don't need to go through jesus you don't need to go from prophet
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mohammed you don't need to go through moses you go straight to god and that's what makes islam
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unique in that way subhanallah yeah so you've got sister fujica's number contact her my name is melody
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melody no problem no problem i will tell you just let's just say brother ali dawa gave your number say my
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friend took a shahada i'm planning on taking my shahada we'll arrange the message for you inshallah and from there on
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woods um like i said with the hijab journey it's up to you guys speak to sister fujica i wear
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i wear sometimes perfect good good look you can it's just gradual yeah yeah anything you'd like to say
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okay what i would say is this sister look i hid it from my family yeah yeah they don't need to know
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yes um so yeah so so it's up to you would they would they have issues anything are you romanian
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yeah anything okay so um so should we should we blur your face no it's fine it's fine okay all right
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okay yeah yeah just post the account ali dawa ali dawa and ali dawa raw so this is my youtube channel
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one second i want obviously the footage of me taking the shahada sure sure yeah 100 this is my youtube
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channel this one we're live by the way look that's it oh my god oh my god that's my guys
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yeah wait let me not say that yeah my name is the same also ali dawa raw is my extra channel i'll
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just show you guys you can also sometimes the videos come on this channel as well
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yeah and on instagram and tiktok is the same name yeah we'll go on there as well inshallah okay
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thank you all right thank you sister and we'll speak to you guys soon thank you and by the way
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have a shower and you can put that prayer in front of you and turn to god yes okay it's a fresh
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beginning okay all your sins are forgiven inshallah okay and we'll keep you in the prayers thank you
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assalamu alaikum bye-bye wow that was unexpected guys subhanallah her friend he wants to accept
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this time in two months with her family but i did not expect her the christian woman go to accept
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this stuff very profound because i was going to give her a map i was like oh she's a christian
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spanish doesn't know how to pray it's allah still subhanallah allah works in miraculous ways