Ali Dawah - April 09, 2018


MUHAMMED (pbuh) MARRIAGE TO AISHA ANSWERED


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In this episode, we talk about the age of consent in Islam and the difference between a girl who reaches puberty at 12 and 16 years old, and one who does not. Is it a child or an adult when a girl reaches puberty?

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00:00:00.000 For anyone who actually does want to learn the information, where does it say that...
00:00:03.800 Okay, good. What we're doing is on my YouTube channel, we're releasing...
00:00:07.400 Ustad Adnan Rasheed, my teacher, we're releasing a two-series video debunking this claim.
00:00:12.000 Genaza, literally, you're not burial.
00:00:13.400 They're trying to legalize incest. 0.99
00:00:15.400 Do you see where it's going? Next is going to be animals.
00:00:17.400 I saw one guy marrying a piano. Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:00:20.200 Does that make sense to you though?
00:00:21.600 Of course. Mate, your clarification made 100% sense. I'm Joseph.
00:00:24.400 Nice meeting you.
00:00:30.000 If you were to live with the knowledge of your mind, you'd like to live with love.
00:00:36.600 And you'd like to live with the mercy of your heart.
00:00:40.600 When does... What is the definition of a child?
00:00:43.600 I don't know.
00:00:44.400 Okay, some say it's regarding the consensus of the country.
00:00:50.000 Yeah, the social.
00:00:50.600 Number one. Number two is that she hasn't reached the age of puberty.
00:00:54.200 She hasn't... She hasn't started her menstruation.
00:00:56.600 So, if a girl at the age of 12 has reached the age of puberty and has started menstruating, 0.56
00:01:03.200 is she a child or an adult now?
00:01:05.200 I don't know. By whose...
00:01:07.200 There you go. So what we're trying to say is this.
00:01:09.200 The legal age in this country is 16.
00:01:11.200 Yeah?
00:01:12.200 We respect the law of the land.
00:01:13.800 We obey by the law of the land. Yeah?
00:01:15.400 We're not saying nothing to that.
00:01:16.800 What we're saying is the legal age in this country is 16.
00:01:19.400 Now, a girl who has reached the age of puberty at the age of 12 is an adult.
00:01:26.400 This does not mean that, okay, let's suppose my daughter reaches the age of puberty at 12.
00:01:33.400 That means she is menstruating and she's ready to conceive. 0.90
00:01:38.400 But, that does not mean I'm going to say, okay, darling, time to get married.
00:01:43.000 No. Because is she mentally, physically, sexually ready?
00:01:47.000 And also, another factor is this.
00:01:49.000 The legal age here is 16.
00:01:51.000 What if a girl doesn't menstruate and is not physically and sexually ready and she's 16?
00:01:56.000 The law says she's allowed to have sex, but her body says no. 1.00
00:01:59.000 So, do you see, Islam came not to give it an age.
00:02:02.800 I mean, not to give it, oh, it's 16.
00:02:05.600 In America, it's 14.
00:02:07.600 Do you know, there's been 207,000 children being married off in America.
00:02:12.000 In America.
00:02:13.000 In the United Arab Emirates, the legal age is 18.
00:02:16.000 You go to China and Japan, it's 21. 0.62
00:02:18.000 So, they're all different.
00:02:20.000 Islam says no. 0.57
00:02:21.000 Individually, each individual, we don't say 16,
00:02:25.000 and then you have girls who are not reached the age of puberty,
00:02:27.000 and they're not ready to conceive at 16, and they're going to be allowed to have sex.
00:02:30.200 They're not ready, because it could harm them.
00:02:32.000 Do you get it?
00:02:33.000 So, that's why Islam has said, each individual has to be assessed by a parent.
00:02:38.000 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:02:39.000 Meaning, okay, she started menstruation, she's ready to conceive, 0.98
00:02:43.000 but I would say, look, my child is not ready to get married,
00:02:46.000 because I think she's still a bit childish.
00:02:47.000 Yeah?
00:02:48.000 So, what that means is, the only thing I'm trying to prove here
00:02:51.000 is that a girl reaches adulthood when she starts menstruating.
00:02:55.000 Right?
00:02:56.000 So, my point here is this.
00:02:57.000 The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him,
00:02:59.000 1400 years ago,
00:03:01.000 his enemies that hated his guts called him everything.
00:03:04.000 They said, you're a magician, you're a poet.
00:03:06.000 Not a single one of them come and said, hold on a second,
00:03:09.000 why are you marrying a little kid for? 0.98
00:03:11.000 So, the fact that they didn't say that, there's two options.
00:03:14.000 Either that was the norms of the society,
00:03:16.000 or she was not really sick, she was another age.
00:03:18.000 That's the only conclusion.
00:03:20.000 Do you get it?
00:03:21.000 Because if we see something wrong in today's society,
00:03:23.000 we will speak out against it.
00:03:24.000 Right?
00:03:25.000 If we do not speak out against it,
00:03:26.000 that means, as a society, we do not think that is wrong.
00:03:28.000 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:03:30.000 So, that's why, in the Quran and the Hadith, the Prophet's tradition,
00:03:34.000 Islam doesn't give it an age.
00:03:36.000 Meaning, each individual has to be assessed,
00:03:39.000 to protect her, for her well-being.
00:03:41.000 I know your point.
00:03:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:44.000 So, the point here is this,
00:03:45.000 and even there's a video going around,
00:03:47.000 that apparently I was saying,
00:03:48.000 I will let a 40-year-old man marry my 9-year-old daughter. 0.91
00:03:50.000 I never said such a thing.
00:03:52.000 All I'm saying is, in the Quran and the Sunnah,
00:03:55.000 Islam has come to protect the well-being of a girl.
00:03:58.000 You cannot force her to marry without her consent.
00:04:01.000 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:04:02.000 She reaches the age of puberty,
00:04:04.000 when she starts mensing.
00:04:06.000 So, 1400 years ago, life was totally different.
00:04:08.000 You think it was like this,
00:04:09.000 go home and play on your Playstation?
00:04:10.000 No.
00:04:11.000 Fam, when you was a...
00:04:12.000 Look at the...
00:04:13.000 No, but someone like Bob, for example,
00:04:15.000 his argument would be that...
00:04:17.000 Yes.
00:04:18.000 Well, Mohammed, is he perfect for being? 1.00
00:04:20.000 Yes, yes, yes.
00:04:21.000 His actions should transcend societal norms.
00:04:23.000 Yes, that's what I'm saying to you.
00:04:25.000 So, then why would his actions be of bedding a 9-year-old?
00:04:30.000 No, okay, okay, good question.
00:04:31.000 Because if it was to transcend, he would know...
00:04:33.000 No, no, you know why.
00:04:34.000 Not he, because, I mean,
00:04:35.000 Mohammed claims to have divine word from God.
00:04:36.000 That's a very good question.
00:04:37.000 That's a very good question.
00:04:38.000 Wouldn't God then know of the future and the norms of...
00:04:40.000 Exactly.
00:04:41.000 That's a very good question that you asked there, yeah?
00:04:43.000 Well, I didn't ask the question.
00:04:44.000 I could ask the question.
00:04:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:04:46.000 So, if you was to ask that question,
00:04:47.000 I'll put it like this.
00:04:48.000 What Islam came down is not for one time,
00:04:50.000 but for all time.
00:04:51.000 That's why Islam is saying you cannot give it an age. 0.99
00:04:54.000 No, but this is why someone like Bob would then be saying,
00:04:56.000 why is it in the Quran?
00:04:58.000 But Bob has no legs to stand on because when Mary, in the Bible, the one he follows, 0.98
00:05:03.000 God's mother, that gave birth to God, Jesus,
00:05:06.000 God's mother married Joseph when he was 90 and she was 12.
00:05:09.000 Yeah?
00:05:10.000 Even Isaac marrying in the Old Testament.
00:05:14.000 Rebecca, Rebecca. 0.91
00:05:15.000 Thank you.
00:05:16.000 That's why Allah says in the Quran,
00:05:18.000 if you don't know something, ask somebody.
00:05:20.000 Or if you can't ask, if they hear you, they can answer.
00:05:23.000 So, it was Rebecca, yeah?
00:05:25.000 So, what does that show you?
00:05:26.000 He, Bob's got no legs to stand on.
00:05:28.000 Bob's trying to build something.
00:05:29.000 Fam, your house is collapsing and you're here trying to build something.
00:05:32.000 Bob has no legs to stand on.
00:05:34.000 No, no, no.
00:05:35.000 But I think his point, sorry.
00:05:36.000 But I think his point was the fact that it was wrong in general.
00:05:39.000 No, no.
00:05:40.000 Hear it, one second.
00:05:41.000 I'm saying, look, let's go back 1400 years ago.
00:05:43.000 The norms of that society, the life expectancy,
00:05:46.000 the way people live their life is not the same as today.
00:05:49.000 A girl today matures at an age of 13.
00:05:52.000 14, 12, 10, yeah?
00:05:54.000 We're seeing when we go back then and even today,
00:05:56.000 even today because we're doing research about this.
00:05:58.000 I'm going to release a two series video about this, yeah?
00:06:00.000 Girls are reaching, in today's time, the age of puberty. 0.99
00:06:04.000 If I'm lying, yeah?
00:06:05.000 We got a group of sisters from our team to do research. 1.00
00:06:07.000 They found six videos on YouTube of nine year old girls saying,
00:06:11.000 I started my menses at nine.
00:06:13.000 The question that we're asking here is this.
00:06:15.000 That's why Islam came for all time. 1.00
00:06:17.000 Because the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, 0.98
00:06:19.000 married her at six and waited for her to be an adult
00:06:22.000 and menstruate to consummate. 0.57
00:06:24.000 If he did not wait three years,
00:06:26.000 they would have been like, okay, she wasn't ready 0.99
00:06:29.000 and the Prophet just raped her. 0.88
00:06:31.000 Why did he wait three years? 0.96
00:06:32.000 This is really important.
00:06:33.000 Because the fact he knew she was not sexually developed,
00:06:36.000 he had to wait three years in order for her to become an adult,
00:06:39.000 then to consummate.
00:06:40.000 So that means in all ages, today as Muslims,
00:06:43.000 we will not marry somebody if they're not ready.
00:06:46.000 But you would marry a nine year old?
00:06:48.000 No, see you missed the point.
00:06:50.000 No, no, no, no, you missed the point.
00:06:52.000 I've come here to listen.
00:06:53.000 One second.
00:06:54.000 And a woman who has reached the age of puberty at nine back then, 0.98
00:06:58.000 today that age might be 16.
00:07:00.000 So what do we go with?
00:07:02.000 What's the principle?
00:07:03.000 Look, what's the principle?
00:07:04.000 She has to be mentally, sexually, physically ready,
00:07:07.000 and there's a harm factor.
00:07:09.000 When we use this principle,
00:07:11.000 back then it makes sense, today it makes sense.
00:07:13.000 When I want to marry somebody,
00:07:14.000 for example, if the father comes and says,
00:07:17.000 my daughter likes you.
00:07:18.000 Okay.
00:07:19.000 How was your daughter?
00:07:20.000 She's 16.
00:07:21.000 Okay.
00:07:22.000 Is she mentally ready?
00:07:24.000 Is she sexually ready?
00:07:25.000 Is she physically ready?
00:07:26.000 And there's a harm factor in a minute.
00:07:28.000 Is she?
00:07:29.000 Oh no, she's not.
00:07:30.000 Sorry, Islamically I can't marry your daughter. 1.00
00:07:32.000 Do you get it?
00:07:33.000 I agree with your conclusion, but...
00:07:35.000 That's it.
00:07:36.000 I don't know, it's just...
00:07:38.000 None of that, for example, is said in...
00:07:40.000 I don't know, I haven't read all of the Qur'an,
00:07:42.000 so I don't know.
00:07:43.000 None of that is said in the Qur'an.
00:07:44.000 No, no, this is...
00:07:45.000 Look, what we go by is...
00:07:46.000 So, if that was perhaps,
00:07:48.000 then Bob wouldn't have his leg to stand on.
00:07:50.000 Shall I tell you something?
00:07:51.000 If you brought Bob,
00:07:52.000 yeah,
00:07:53.000 if the Prophet came in front of him,
00:07:55.000 Bob will say,
00:07:56.000 Look, if someone doesn't want to believe,
00:07:57.000 they won't believe.
00:07:58.000 Bob here is not here to learn.
00:08:00.000 That's why I don't want to speak to him.
00:08:01.000 You, I know you're not here for an agenda.
00:08:03.000 You're here to...
00:08:04.000 I am here for an agenda.
00:08:05.000 Everyone has an agenda, but you know what I'm trying to say.
00:08:06.000 I'm here for the truth.
00:08:07.000 Good.
00:08:08.000 But when I'm an agenda,
00:08:09.000 he's not here for the truth.
00:08:10.000 Jesus says, seek the truth and the truth shall set you free.
00:08:12.000 Bob and his little team over there,
00:08:13.000 that lady screaming there, yeah? 1.00
00:08:14.000 Okay.
00:08:15.000 They come here every week,
00:08:17.000 you know what for? 0.97
00:08:18.000 Just to attack Islam. 1.00
00:08:19.000 I swear to God,
00:08:20.000 I have not seen them come here once
00:08:22.000 and speak to a Hindu,
00:08:23.000 or speak to a Sikh.
00:08:24.000 All they do is come here every single week with a new argument.
00:08:27.000 I'll come and see them.
00:08:28.000 What's your argument today?
00:08:29.000 What happened?
00:08:30.000 So here is,
00:08:31.000 they have an agenda.
00:08:33.000 And I know we all have an agenda,
00:08:34.000 but I'm saying their agenda is hate.
00:08:35.000 Bob,
00:08:36.000 if I answer them like this,
00:08:37.000 you know what he'll say?
00:08:38.000 I'm not convinced that lady.
00:08:39.000 I'm not convinced.
00:08:40.000 I'm not going to waste my time with him.
00:08:42.000 I'd rather go speak to a tree.
00:08:43.000 At least the tree might,
00:08:44.000 you know,
00:08:45.000 it does some benefit.
00:08:46.000 If I speak to Bob,
00:08:47.000 and then he's going to go with this.
00:08:49.000 He's going to repeat the same thing next week.
00:08:51.000 I'll debunk his claim.
00:08:52.000 He'll come next week and repeat the same thing.
00:08:54.000 Why?
00:08:55.000 Because he wants to make us Muslims look bad. 0.75
00:08:56.000 Just like Tommy Robinson.
00:08:57.000 Tommy Robinson has an agenda.
00:08:58.000 Do you follow Tommy Robinson?
00:08:59.000 I follow everyone here,
00:09:00.000 to be honest.
00:09:01.000 Yeah, okay.
00:09:02.000 But Tommy Robinson,
00:09:03.000 maybe it's time to unfollow him, yeah?
00:09:04.000 I'm joking.
00:09:05.000 Tommy Robinson...
00:09:06.000 No, no, no.
00:09:07.000 You should always follow the people you disagree with as well.
00:09:08.000 Otherwise, you'll half-heartedly know in the show.
00:09:09.000 Yeah, I know, I know.
00:09:10.000 I was joking.
00:09:12.000 What I'm saying is people have agendas, yeah?
00:09:14.000 If my agenda here is to make white people look bad, 0.84
00:09:18.000 fam, you can talk to me all day.
00:09:19.000 Why people do charity?
00:09:20.000 I don't care.
00:09:21.000 Why people...
00:09:22.000 No, I don't care.
00:09:23.000 If I have an agenda,
00:09:24.000 and if I'm hateful, 0.96
00:09:25.000 I'm just going to spew my nonsense. 0.92
00:09:27.000 Just like Tommy Robinson, 0.91
00:09:28.000 when he was saying,
00:09:29.000 this Qur'an teaches this.
00:09:30.000 And when I went up to him,
00:09:31.000 he didn't bring one verse.
00:09:32.000 Why?
00:09:33.000 Because he's pocketing money.
00:09:34.000 He has to put money in his pocket.
00:09:36.000 So my question is this,
00:09:37.000 to you, yeah?
00:09:38.000 Is that,
00:09:39.000 the Prophet Muhammad,
00:09:40.000 peace be upon him,
00:09:41.000 if he was a paedophile,
00:09:42.000 what they call,
00:09:43.000 yeah?
00:09:44.000 He would have married Aisha at six, 0.50
00:09:46.000 and consummate and say,
00:09:47.000 I don't care.
00:09:48.000 The fact that he waited three years,
00:09:50.000 is because of her well-being.
00:09:52.000 Do you know what I'm trying to say?
00:09:53.000 I get that, but...
00:09:54.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:09:55.000 Just for anyone who actually does want to learn the information.
00:09:56.000 Yeah.
00:09:57.000 Where does it say that...
00:09:58.000 Okay, good.
00:09:59.000 What we're doing is,
00:10:00.000 on my YouTube channel,
00:10:01.000 we're releasing,
00:10:02.000 Stad Adnan Rasheed, my teacher,
00:10:03.000 we're releasing a two-series video debunking this claim.
00:10:06.000 Janaza, literally,
00:10:07.000 not burial, yeah?
00:10:08.000 We buried,
00:10:09.000 not literally,
00:10:10.000 but intellectually.
00:10:11.000 We're going to bury this argument,
00:10:13.000 once and for all.
00:10:14.000 Because 50 years ago,
00:10:16.000 shall I tell you something?
00:10:17.000 He's a Christian missionary, Bob, yeah?
00:10:18.000 He's a Christian missionary.
00:10:19.000 I won't be surprised if he gets paid. 0.95
00:10:20.000 Their job is to attack Islam. 1.00
00:10:22.000 Okay? 0.97
00:10:23.000 I'm here,
00:10:24.000 to defend my religion against these kind of lies and criticism, yeah?
00:10:26.000 Okay?
00:10:27.000 50 years ago,
00:10:28.000 no Christian missionary used this argument.
00:10:29.000 Why?
00:10:30.000 Because,
00:10:31.000 it was the noise of the society.
00:10:32.000 Because in the UK,
00:10:33.000 it was happening.
00:10:34.000 Do you get it?
00:10:35.000 What are they going to say?
00:10:36.000 Because they knew,
00:10:37.000 how can we use this argument against the Prophet Muhammad?
00:10:38.000 Because we're doing it.
00:10:39.000 Do you get it?
00:10:40.000 We're marrying,
00:10:41.000 girls who have reached the age of puberty,
00:10:43.000 they become adult.
00:10:44.000 So that's why they couldn't use it.
00:10:45.000 But now,
00:10:46.000 because societal norms have changed,
00:10:47.000 you know Friends?
00:10:48.000 You know the episode,
00:10:50.000 Friends?
00:10:51.000 The show, yeah.
00:10:52.000 The show, the show Friends.
00:10:53.000 Do you know recently,
00:10:54.000 they aired it on Netflix?
00:10:55.000 And do you know they got massive complaints?
00:10:57.000 Do you know why?
00:10:58.000 Because,
00:10:59.000 how old is it, Friends?
00:11:00.000 20 years?
00:11:01.000 About 20 years old, yeah?
00:11:03.000 When they put it back on Netflix,
00:11:05.000 people start giving complaints.
00:11:06.000 It's homophobic.
00:11:07.000 It's,
00:11:08.000 erm,
00:11:09.000 what's it called?
00:11:10.000 Erm,
00:11:11.000 what's it called?
00:11:12.000 You know,
00:11:13.000 it gives more,
00:11:14.000 I forgot the word.
00:11:15.000 Sexist,
00:11:16.000 thank you,
00:11:17.000 that's why you need help. 0.85
00:11:18.000 Sexist, 0.99
00:11:19.000 it's homophobic. 0.90
00:11:20.000 So the question you're asking is,
00:11:21.000 why did nobody complain 20 years ago?
00:11:22.000 Because fam,
00:11:23.000 back then,
00:11:24.000 there was no problem.
00:11:25.000 But now,
00:11:26.000 society has changed so much,
00:11:27.000 that within 20 years,
00:11:28.000 they're complaining to Netflix,
00:11:29.000 it's homophobic, 0.71
00:11:30.000 this is sexist.
00:11:31.000 You see,
00:11:32.000 our society is changing.
00:11:33.000 That's why,
00:11:34.000 we go by the law of God.
00:11:35.000 Because,
00:11:36.000 if you look at Nazi Germany, 0.99
00:11:37.000 killing Jews was okay. 1.00
00:11:39.000 Because that was the societal norms. 0.98
00:11:41.000 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:11:42.000 So that's why,
00:11:43.000 what we say is,
00:11:44.000 we,
00:11:45.000 we follow objective morality.
00:11:46.000 We do not follow a law,
00:11:47.000 that,
00:11:48.000 now they,
00:11:49.000 in Denmark or a country,
00:11:51.000 they want,
00:11:52.000 erm,
00:11:53.000 erm,
00:11:54.000 incest. 0.68
00:11:55.000 They're trying to legalize incest. 0.99
00:11:56.000 Do you see where it's going?
00:11:57.000 Next is going to be animals,
00:11:58.000 I saw one guy marrying a piano.
00:12:00.000 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:12:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:12:02.000 Did you know that?
00:12:03.000 There's one guy,
00:12:04.000 he married a piano.
00:12:05.000 I don't know what kind of communication they're going to have, yeah?
00:12:07.000 But,
00:12:08.000 the problem here is this,
00:12:09.000 society is going on a mad one.
00:12:10.000 Next man's marrying a flipping dog, 1.00
00:12:12.000 flipping elephant.
00:12:13.000 The,
00:12:14.000 the question is,
00:12:15.000 society norms are changing.
00:12:16.000 We're saying,
00:12:17.000 we stuck,
00:12:18.000 we stick to the laws of God.
00:12:19.000 Yeah?
00:12:20.000 To the best of our ability.
00:12:21.000 Of course the law of the land as well.
00:12:22.000 Because the law of the land says,
00:12:23.000 look fam,
00:12:24.000 you can't do,
00:12:25.000 for example,
00:12:26.000 stop,
00:12:27.000 you can't pass the traffic light.
00:12:28.000 Most Muslims back home, 1.00
00:12:29.000 won't stop at the traffic light.
00:12:30.000 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:12:31.000 So,
00:12:32.000 that's about it.
00:12:33.000 Is there any question you want to ask me?
00:12:34.000 No, no, no.
00:12:35.000 I just came because you,
00:12:36.000 you seemed like you wanted to.
00:12:37.000 Yeah.
00:12:38.000 Does that make sense to you though?
00:12:39.000 Of course.
00:12:40.000 Mate,
00:12:41.000 your clarification made 100% sense.
00:12:42.000 I'm Joseph.
00:12:43.000 Nice meeting you.