In this episode, I speak to the sisters about their views on andrew Tate and his new life as a muslim. We discuss the impact of his coming to Islam and the impact it has had on our sisters.
00:00:00.000scientifically it is true uh women women are more emotional so in a work environment
00:00:06.420men probably could handle that a little bit better than women could scientifically it's true
00:00:12.720so that it just makes sense it just makes sense everything everything
00:00:18.180well if you define if you define the word it's when you have hate towards women
00:00:27.480and when when andrew when andrew tate says that a lot of women that watch it just are sheep just
00:00:36.540like you said they don't even know what the word misogyny means
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00:01:02.620brothers and sisters and dear friends hope you guys are well inshallah so the reason i'm doing this
00:01:08.740specific video with the sisters as you can see let me centralize myself oh there we go um i had a
00:01:14.400message some some sister messaged me and she seemed very very disturbed like it's as if her iman was on
00:01:20.500the line and she really really expressed i asked her to join as well i don't know if she i don't think
00:01:25.580she is going to but she was very distressed she was like we feel let down by our brothers
00:01:31.880and there was a lot of things she said i can't remember this she was saying that there's certain
00:01:36.940things andrew tate said before um so she was very surprised how the brothers just embraced him and
00:01:42.900they're happy over it so i thought to myself any believer whose iman has been shaken whatever it may be
00:01:49.480even if some people watching this and be like oh it's your typical feminist and to me i take it
00:01:53.760seriously whatever it is i think it's important and i always on my channel try to have the sisters
00:01:58.000to have their say for them to come and open up to us as well so what i was going to say is inshallah
00:02:02.880that's why i invited you guys to come on inshallah so i want to inshallah get straight into it
00:02:07.920i don't know how many of you guys are i'm not going to say pro or against but what is your opinions of
00:02:13.320andrew tate and what is your opinion like for example him coming to islam
00:02:17.540you know only time will tell how he will use islam and how it will refine him inshallah that's
00:02:23.460what you know none of us are are going to be the judge of that and we can we can only tell from
00:02:28.020observation as time goes on but yes it's definitely something that from experience it is here to refiner
00:02:34.040it is here to make us better that is the whole point of it um every single one of the sahaba were
00:02:40.620reverts some of them came from the worst of paths and became the best of people um personally as a
00:02:47.840revert you know if somebody was to know me 12 years ago it would be a completely different person
00:02:53.160that they knew uh so i know what it can do i also know that a lot of people come to islam and it
00:02:59.640really doesn't do much for them you know um and they fall into the wrong guidance and that kind of
00:03:04.800thing that can also happen but my answer to anybody that has a sort of a shaken faith by it or anything
00:03:11.720else like that if anything they should just reframe the way that they're thinking about it the sister
00:03:16.340they should be thinking subhanallah our allah is so great that even someone like andrew tate so if
00:03:22.800they really dislike him and his past comments so much they should be even more overwhelmed with joy
00:03:27.820that this person you know is now going to inshallah become better so they should be happy they should be
00:03:33.160like right i didn't like him hopefully now he'll he'll be better they should be um your your faith
00:03:39.560would be it would make more logic it would make more sense anyway for your faith to be shaken
00:03:44.380um if islam hadn't affected him in such a way yeah so what do you think are the concerns because i think
00:03:50.560a lot of sisters feel felt maybe threatened by him but now that he's a muslim they're like oh my gosh
00:03:56.340like you know our husbands or our brothers or cousins are already you know like kind of
00:04:02.780whatever like you're influenced by him but now he's a muslim so the thing is do you think there's
00:04:06.800some kind of a fear where he's like this is what i sense i sense as if our sisters like and i might
00:04:13.820be wrong yeah our sisters be it feminist or not feminist they have this genuine concern of traditional
00:04:19.420men waking up like we're holding a second like well what's going on here like as if like i feel as if
00:04:25.180there there is some kind of the the the western world and feminism and what's the agenda that is
00:04:29.720pushing it's made men and not to feel wanting to be a man like they are afraid to be a man
00:04:34.540jordan peepton talks about this do you think this is where it's coming from where the sisters are just
00:04:40.360terrified of like a man who's got the traditional values you know like being the maintainer and
00:04:46.460protector and and our sisters are kind of brainwashed into this whole you know maybe the career
00:04:51.740feminism equality do you think that plays a role
00:04:55.500yeah yeah that's that was actually subhanallah one of the first things that i wanted to say
00:05:05.380um i remember there was a video and i'm sure you guys might have seen this where this guy
00:05:09.500he goes around and he asks women if they know who andrew tate is and whether they like him or not
00:05:14.960and most of them were like no we don't right and then he asked them why and they couldn't really
00:05:19.480you know come up with a reason why what did he say what did he do right and so what i found is that
00:05:24.880they're not so worried really with what he says but rather what triggers them is the fact that he is
00:05:32.580empowering men he came with a movement that is empowering masculinity manhood and he's saying
00:05:39.340there's nothing wrong with masculinity and a lot of men are resonating with that because for a long
00:05:44.120time they've been emasculated and so now you have and that's why a lot of women who they don't have
00:05:52.940a problem with traditional men a lot of women who are not prescribing to these western isms they don't
00:05:59.640really have a problem with him convert with him converting to islam right and so they're coming in
00:06:07.320they're understanding why he converted to islam they're understanding what his perspective is and
00:06:13.560whatever he said before even before they understand the perspective that he's coming from a lot of the
00:06:19.440people that did have a problem and it's not only feminists it's just liberals in general a lot of
00:06:24.720these people had a problem with andrew tate even before he converted to islam and so a lot of the muslim
00:06:29.500who prescribed to these isms not only men i mean not only women who prescribed to feminism but even some men
00:06:36.680a lot of the people who had a problem with andrew tate converting to islam it's because of their
00:06:43.380prescription towards liberalism and because of this they are not able to really understand
00:06:50.140the effects of emasculation of feminism why because liberalism of which feminism stems from
00:06:58.620are all rooted in individualism these people are obsessed with themselves and when you are so
00:07:05.860obsessed with yourself right which is what individualism is you don't really have the
00:07:10.500time to observe society to care about what's going on to everybody else and to critically and logically
00:07:17.540put aside your emotions and just analyze what's going on so a lot of the women right who actually
00:07:25.480accepted because we know that the men most of them were happy with andrew tate's conversion right
00:07:30.400the women who were it's because they do not prescribe to individuals and you won't hear them
00:07:37.060saying we're females and so the woman that did have a problem they were the woman who basically they
00:07:43.960are individualists they don't understand where he's coming from and they feel threatened yeah i saw
00:07:51.020that i saw that video as well and it just seems like that it's like when someone is vilified other people
00:07:55.160just follow like sheep like they're like okay why is this guy that nobody asked why how what was it
00:07:59.380about there is no evidence we just see a lot of emotions you know um and and like sisters can be
00:08:05.980quite emotional and unless some people might even disperse oh you're misogynistic oh look how you
00:08:09.680how dare you no they can be there it's it's you know not saying every single one of them there's
00:08:14.940exceptions to the rule but they can have their moments when they're emotional but the thing is here
00:08:18.780is that like for example let's go to like let's say sister imani so or and the rest is well inshallah
00:08:24.720that what do you think like the sister mentioned as well what other concerns do you think these
00:08:29.340sisters have what is their problem because i feel as if what she said is right that they are afraid
00:08:34.340that men are you know that men have been emasculated and now they are embracing that and they're like
00:08:39.560well hold on a second i've been sleeping all this time and i feel as if the muslim females not all of
00:08:45.120them they see that as a direct threat do you agree do you think that's where the sentiment's coming from
00:08:49.400um yeah i can say something i agree with the sister i think that it is mainly um the women
00:08:57.840in the religion and outside the religion that you know ascribe to these isms like you say um and it
00:09:03.680all comes down to individualism and it all comes down to the fact that they're not ascribing themselves
00:09:10.240to islam holistically um and an ism instead so i do get that and then i think there's also a small
00:09:17.280crossover of women who are a little bit confused so although they may be quite traditionalist in in
00:09:22.920themselves i think you were right in saying that maybe there are some sisters who have heard you
00:09:28.860know that he's um very heard things about him and whatnot they're not quite sure what he said
00:09:34.260they might be married and they're worried that their husbands are going to you know take on these um
00:09:38.440these these traits that they've heard which may or may not be true um and it may just be something
00:09:43.420and nothing for those women they may be actually you know if they were to listen to what he's saying
00:09:48.200they may not disagree as much as they thought but i think there's a small percentage of women who are
00:09:52.600just a bit confused and they think what he's saying is worse than what it is as well the thing is is
00:09:57.220that his delivery pre-islam you know it was quite extreme and i think that was like 90 percent of the
00:10:03.160issue um but now that he's he's muslim hopefully inshallah he'll have that guidance on how to address
00:10:08.680people and things it you know it can be refined and maybe there are a small cross-section of women
00:10:14.000who um aren't so far into the feminism and the isms but inshallah they'll just see that actually
00:10:20.240no he's got quite a muslim fitrah about him to an extent it just needs to be molded refined a little
00:10:28.240bit okay so so that's interesting um like you said that subhanallah um so we've got two people here
00:10:35.240bako and safwan um are these can you guys unmute yourself
00:10:40.380and yes so is it sister bako yes hello yeah do you so what's your stance on andrew are you
00:10:48.640more pro do you have concerns do you have any concerns with andrew tate like before now and like
00:10:55.060and what are the concerns of the other sisters like you know why are females so some muslim women
00:11:00.580are very like you know upset about you know himself okay first of all salam alaikum everybody uh thank
00:11:08.680you for uh adding me in um the only thing that um i would like to say is that um andrew tate has had
00:11:15.480a bit of a harsh delivery before um in the past he speaks he speaks his mind he says things that
00:11:23.520he truly believes uh but his delivery was a little bit harsh now if i'm pro or against andrew tate
00:11:30.160i am 100 agreeing with let's say 99.9 of the things that he says because he is quite accurate
00:11:37.980he might say it in a very harsh way he might say it in a way that might offend somebody but
00:11:42.720when you say in order to be able to think you have to be able to offend people sometimes as well
00:11:47.480when you have to be able to listen for example andrew tate used like if i'm not mistaken he's used
00:11:51.440words like you know some sort of obedience to the husband you know so a lot of people this might
00:11:57.060be one of the issues like you know a lot of muslim sisters like we've i've been in the dawah for 10
00:12:01.120years speaking they don't like that word when it comes to obedience like do you think these are
00:12:05.300like trigger words like when people hear it like in general to to to everyone like maybe open it to
00:12:12.000everyone inshallah you guys can unmute yourself i think it was um brother shaheb's uh audio so i want
00:12:16.220to make it open discussion inshallah in a nutshell for example as as female you tend to um within
00:12:21.520your nature and i think it's across all of them all the sisters watching within your nature for
00:12:25.240example you know when you have a child yeah i don't know yes does anybody have kids here
00:12:29.260anybody have children and it was okay if you guys do or don't but you know when you have a child
00:12:36.600you tend to like the fact that they depend on you you love the fact that they need you you want to
00:12:42.740give them that love you want them you want to protect them and you want to nurture them you
00:12:46.860want to look after them and you love that fact like my wife always says the fact that our child
00:12:51.380depends on her that that you know she finds that amazing for us men us men we are the same way
00:12:57.620we love the fact that our partners depend on us now dependence doesn't mean in the wrong way where
00:13:04.280i have these strings and i will do whatever i like with you and if you don't and i will cut one of
00:13:09.120the strings the thing is here is that we as men just as you with your child we love the fact that
00:13:14.720our wives depend on us and we're the providers and protectors and carers so to go to sister amina
00:13:20.960and sister imani and sister zahra just open discussion um do you think like i said before
00:13:27.560that is one of the issues they have when it comes to a man's role as you know being obedient to him
00:13:33.080now that are there trigger words that angita is used that's caused this animosity towards him
00:13:38.820i think the most triggering thing was when he once mentioned that after a marriage when the father
00:13:47.040father like walks the bride to the in a aisle to the groom the woman belongs to him and the word
00:13:55.320belongs to him was i think quite triggering for a lot of women but i think he also clarified today
00:14:01.960uh in in the podcast with hamlet hijab um that he meant that belonging to the man means that the man
00:14:08.760is now um in charge of taking care of the woman and providing for her and um like giving her a safe
00:14:16.440home safe environment but instead in social media or mainstream media it was portrayed as if he was
00:14:23.240saying that the woman is now his property and he can sell her or anything like this so it was quite uh taken
00:14:30.280into the extreme although i think i even clarified his stance there and uh i think this is also
00:14:37.720generally not only in andrew tate's um uh scenario now but in general mainstream media always tells that
00:14:46.200um sorry guys my connection is absolutely awful i'm in the middle of a town center and uh i don't think
00:14:53.080there's a massive massive life unfortunately okay no no problem if there's i'm going to come to you
00:14:59.720next if there's quickly something you just want to add on uh aki before you go um so just finish your
00:15:04.200point as soon as a man is going to adapt the traditional man masculine role uh it's called toxic
00:15:11.000masculinity although i don't i think um there isn't really the term toxic masculinity or toxic femininity i think
00:15:19.960these are just made of words so exactly jordan peterson says for example there's toxic masculinity
00:15:25.240but why is it not toxic femininity toxic is why is it toxic only connected to masculinity you know yeah
00:15:31.480because these days like for example i'll be honest with you i know many cases of brothers who have been
00:15:35.720falsely accused of rape who have been falsely accused of beating their wives who've been like they've been
00:15:42.360they're going through this stuff and you can see even like for example i hear stories of women
00:15:46.760physically trying to attack their husbands so why isn't that toxic femininity so why is toxic only
00:15:51.160connected to the masculinity which is a point that you made if one understands essentially what toxic
00:15:57.960what masculinity is there is no such thing as as toxic because everything that they categorize
00:16:04.920right as masculinity is something that actually goes as toxic masculinity something that goes against
00:16:10.200masculinity because masculinity is a part of the characteristics of masculinity is that a man wants
00:16:17.000to protect he wants to provide he wants to take care he wants to be a leader he has these all these
00:16:22.360positive characteristics that's masculinity and so when a man does something that opposes any of this
00:16:29.480you can't say that that's toxic masculinity what's toxic about that is the lack of masculinity and that's
00:16:35.880also one of the reasons why today there's a lot of crimes against women because feminism emasculated
00:16:43.080men it told them that masculinity is wrong and now they're emasculated they don't have
00:16:48.040masculinity anymore and so they're doing all of these things and instead of us recognizing that it's
00:16:53.080because of emasculation it's because these men are lacking their masculinity and we need to go back to
00:16:59.160that we're saying no it's toxic masculinity it's like a band-aid that they're putting on top
00:17:04.200it's it's as good as me telling a woman that she cannot be feminine if you're feminine if you um
00:17:10.360explore your feminine side to yourself you are toxic feminine and you're like well okay what do i
00:17:14.760become then so if i cannot become a man if i'm scared to be like you know what in my household i'm
00:17:19.160the leader yeah and let me make that actually very clear i am the leader in my household yeah what does
00:17:23.960that mean by leader that i go and beat my wife up hey i'm peter foul let me let me start punching you
00:17:28.280and you know if you don't do this yeah where's my food my food is late too salty okay slap i mean
00:17:33.640what that what i don't know what goes through people's minds yeah um is that leader means what
00:17:38.760at the end of the day there can't be two leaders in the household yeah there has to be one leader
00:17:42.280does that mean i don't take my wife's decisions of course i do today i planned the day and by the way
00:17:47.240women like to be planning ahead you know the fact that the man is taking that leading role but if my
00:17:50.840wife comes and says you know instead of eating there should we go here that's a brilliant idea
00:17:55.080actually i never thought that let's go and do that so it's it's this notion that obedience
00:18:01.000being the leader being the provider somehow is a direct threat oh my gosh do you think that's the
00:18:06.920case it's the imani and sister amina um no i i personally think things like 50 50 is is wrong
00:18:16.680it's wrong and i wouldn't like to do that but women can't expect to not go 50 50 and then think
00:18:24.520i shouldn't be obedient to my husband i shouldn't respect my husband you can't eat have your cake and
00:18:29.960eat there needs to be some level of fairness it's not to do with equality it's to do with equity
00:18:35.800the fact of the matter is a lot of women not wanting traditional men it's women wanting wanting modern
00:18:42.600men men men men men that want to go 50 50 men that don't know how to be in charge and men that would
00:18:51.640obey the wife more than the wife would obey the man it's it's it's it's how it's how men want it to
00:18:59.400be more modernized it's just how it's just how times are changing now and you see you see people allowing
00:19:07.400certain things that shouldn't be allowed like in schools for example it's just it's just how women
00:19:13.400think oh um this is something that's wrong women shouldn't have to obey the man at all because
00:19:21.800women should be obeyed too just let me know do you believe that when it comes to like what is it that
00:19:27.240for example that you said you don't want it 50 50 yeah okay and we believe that's that's that's that's
00:19:31.560islam the thing is we see like women want traditional men but they don't want to be
00:19:37.160traditional women so they're like yeah i want this this this this and this okay good but these men
00:19:41.480want these and they're like oh no but i don't want to be what what do you mean like you want this but
00:19:45.400you don't want to be so traditional men want traditional women so like you said obedience for
00:19:50.280example someone might come and said you're just brainwashed you're a woman you're a self-hating woman
00:19:54.040you know so when you say for example like a man should be obeyed like let me put it like this and
00:19:59.080tell me if i'm wrong yeah at the end of the day a man's job is not easy neither is a woman's a woman
00:20:03.960has like there's things that a woman can do that i can't do and there's things i can do that a woman
00:20:07.880cannot do and we need to we're a team uh together if we both had the equal things if i didn't rely on
00:20:14.840my wife my wife didn't rely on me how would we even be a team do you get what i'm trying to say it's
00:20:18.760like if i had a specific business where i'm selling something like andrew tate said this in this video
00:20:23.160he said if i'm an accountant and then you have a tailor and if you said to the tailor you know what you do
00:20:26.920half the accounting and uh get the tailor to do um and you do half the tailoring he's an expert in
00:20:32.040his field i'm an expert in my field we work together and we make a company like he said he said it very
00:20:36.040well you know so the thing is that it should be like that but it's as if the sisters are like no
00:20:42.680you know we want to be equal and it's like why is your success bar men in the first way it's self-defeating
00:20:48.520i want to be why do you want to be like a man so sister imani can can we just have you
00:20:54.120much even a bit quiet but i was just listening everyone's got really good views i agree with
00:20:58.920pretty much everything i'm glad that it's it's to be honest it would have been more fun if there
00:21:02.680was someone disagreeing with us but we're all pretty much on the same page alhamdulillah which
00:21:06.920is also really good why is that in the same page because i'll be honest with you it's very interesting
00:21:10.680because that it shows that there are muslim women out there who do not hate andrew tate yes there are
00:21:15.800things i mean i still have questions to to what you're saying and this is just um a learning lesson for
00:21:22.040myself if anything um and i understand completely where you're coming from that there are some
00:21:27.320women out there who are not willing to fulfill their traditionalist side of things um and they
00:21:32.760may want to have their cake and eat it too um me personally i don't think i'm inshallah going to have
00:21:37.880that issue when i get married but it would be nice to know what are some of those things that men
00:21:44.440want women to come back to what is it that they feel when when we generalize women and say
00:21:48.840they don't want to do these things obviously not us alhamdulillah but some women out there what what
00:21:53.880are these things um there's the obvious ones like you know demanding to go out and work when they
00:21:58.920you know when their husband doesn't want them to i can tell you like as a traditional man that can
00:22:05.720if you're asking the question i can list the things that we want yeah yeah sometimes it's it's good to
00:22:11.400know that as well i'll be honest with you like for number one for example i want to be like for
00:22:16.040example the provider i believe in a relationship if the woman is a provider it will not work out
00:22:21.240now this doesn't mean a woman cannot have a job of course you can have a job if my wife wanted to go
00:22:25.000do a part-time job because she wants to i have no problem that money is hers she can do whatever she
00:22:29.240likes with it but i will never allow her to pay for the rent the shopping petrol whatever it may be i
00:22:34.920will say to her i don't care if you're a multi-millionaire these are the things i pay for i don't believe
00:22:40.120a relationship will work because a man for example will feel very insulted if one day a little
00:22:45.080argument happens and she goes well who pays for the bill well that is for a man that's like as good
00:22:49.880as punching him yeah you never want to hear that because he feels like he wants to be the maintainer
00:22:53.960and protector just as a woman has that towards her child she loves the fact that she needs to provide
00:22:58.520for him number two and i clearly understand that and my my question is i mean alhamdulillah that's like
00:23:04.040you know dream come true you don't have to work you you're so my my perspective is i don't i just don't
00:23:09.320understand you know where this uh pool of women are coming from when it comes to these things
00:23:16.120my my i mean maybe also i it's hard for me to speak on it because i've never been married and
00:23:20.520i'm not married yet so maybe you know inshallah i'll have to deal with these difficulties myself but
00:23:25.720objectively and looking inward it just looks like maybe they don't know how good it can be
00:23:30.840like how good they could actually have it and it's what it is a sister what they've done there's a
00:23:35.800there's a book called miseducation of women by james toody i recommend you guys to read it yeah
00:23:39.480it just talks about how the women have been brainwashed into this whole career mindset i i
00:23:44.120speak to like individual sisters etc where they don't feel complete like if they have a child and
00:23:49.960they bring the child at home they feel like they are worthless i have to have a career and as men i
00:23:55.880don't have no criteria when i was looking for my partner i don't care if she was a dustbin collector
00:24:01.160i don't care if she was wiping the windows i don't care what she it's irrelevant her career
00:24:05.480had zero to do with my decision factor i do not look and be like because because women tend to
00:24:10.600look at a man's future and be like okay i want a man who's strong who's working who's doing something
00:24:15.080with his life we as men we don't look for a woman with a career i'll be honest with you i don't i don't
00:24:19.240look for a woman with a career personally as men most traditional men they don't want that they just
00:24:24.440look for a wife who can be their companion you know that is a traditional woman for example if a man
00:24:30.600says to his wife you know what i don't like you wearing lipstick i don't want to wear lipstick
00:24:33.960misogyny what do you mean misogyny what do you mean misogyny if i if i am protecting maintaining
00:24:39.320if i'm walking down the road and somebody comes with a knife and trying to attack my wife i'm
00:24:43.800going to have to put my life on the line meaning i am willing to die for you literally i am willing
00:24:49.560to die for you if i'm in a ship imagine the titanic here let's make this a bit more romantic here and
00:24:54.200me and my wife are on it i'm going to be sending my wife and the kids i'm going to be taking that risk
00:24:58.120of you know what you guys are safe so if a man is willing to go down that route where he's
00:25:03.640trying to protect and trying to provide and if a thief comes knocks on the door when she's scared
00:25:08.440like there's certain things i'll never let my wife out for example once my wife took out the bin and i
00:25:14.680think i was i was i think i was in like i can't remember i think i was doing something i didn't
00:25:18.200notice and i was really upset i said look i don't look at the time it's dangerous out there i don't like
00:25:23.080i tell her i'll take the bin out that's my job yeah don't ever feel like you know you have to do
00:25:27.320stuff like that so the thing is why because i care about her i don't want like something so simple
00:25:32.040like that it should be my duty so if that's the case what is wrong with us men asking for obedience
00:25:38.840meaning that if i'm doing all of these because i care and love for you not because i want to control
00:25:43.480you and i'm insecure and i'm toxic why is it hard for sisters to be like you know what
00:25:48.440can i just say one more thing sorry i know i've like kind of dominated now recently as well is
00:25:54.840that i agree i agree with all of that as well um and i think that um if i was to you know play the other
00:26:04.440side for a minute try and put myself in the mind of these sisters you have these worries these concerns
00:26:09.240um i would say that my only fear or um concern going forward would be the fact that there are
00:26:19.240also a group of men i don't know the size whether it's small or big there are a group of men who
00:26:26.040who do do it on the other way where they expect the obedience and they expect everything else but then
00:26:30.120they don't provide so they you know and then they don't do these things and then women are forced into poverty
00:26:35.240and situations where you know either they defy their husband and you know go through some other
00:26:41.000situation or whatever not even poverty but they're forced into situations where they're always leading
00:26:45.480anyway the man's just very you know relaxed he's like yeah yeah don't worry you make the decision
00:26:49.640and she's just like i don't want to make decisions but we have kids to feed and you know schools to pick
00:26:54.920and things like that so we need to do that we need to call those brothers out and we do like me
00:27:00.280yeah of course i know he comes to me and says there's this potential i'm getting to know him
00:27:04.760etc but instead i need to be contributing towards the rent i'll tell that sister straight don't marry
00:27:09.480that guy yeah like how no but it's just you know um maybe if that's what i'm saying i'm just trying to
00:27:14.680put myself in the in their shoes in their mind maybe because of this small group of people or large
00:27:19.480group of people it's then become a um a coping mechanism and a barrier they're kind of like no well
00:27:26.200no one's going to take the mick out of me like that i have to be self-sufficient and so they put
00:27:30.200up this this wall believing that no man every man is going to use that in this toxic way to use
00:27:36.040the toxic web you know that's a valid point they put a band-aid on the problem yeah they're not
00:27:41.480understanding that if we go back to things like you said then it would be fine so that's valid
00:27:49.400the incompetence of men are leading women to be insecure that they are now looking for alternatives to
00:27:55.160provide because then they're not seeing a future with this husband so in that instance i'll say you
00:27:59.640know what look i i'm i'm totally with you guys if a man is making you feel insecure and he's not
00:28:05.000protecting and providing and he's not even when it comes to like one certain respect etc how he's
00:28:10.120disrespecting you he's abusing you he's maybe hitting you and all this kind of stuff and on top of that
00:28:14.520once obedience we are not talking about a man like that and let me be a bit more social like hadith of
00:28:19.560the prophet muhammad peace be upon him who said that if i was to ask and this some citizens might hear this
00:28:25.000and be like whoa yeah if i was to ask anyone to bow down to anyone it will be the wife to the husband
00:28:31.480bow down you know prostration that we go into he said if it was allowed i would ask the wife to bow
00:28:37.000down to the husband now the husband that we're talking about when we hear these kind of hadiths
00:28:41.480is like oh my gosh my husband who hits me who beats me who doesn't provide for me no when did
00:28:45.560the prophet talk about him the prophet is talking about a man who is good to his family who is good to
00:28:51.160his kids who is protecting who provides who loves his wife who's soft with his wife who provides for
00:28:57.160his wife and there's so many things and he's because going out there and working or if a war
00:29:02.120happens putting a life on the line these are big sacrifices so allah and his messenger is acknowledging
00:29:08.680the gratitude to that kind of man but a lot of systems they tend to get they think this this husband that they may have or their father and they like what my what the prophet wants me to
00:29:19.160and the funny thing is going back to andrew tate is that um see these stipulations that you're saying
00:29:26.920that you know well the stipulations are in place for the man as well you know we're not just asking
00:29:30.600for blind obedience he i believe that even though he delivered it kind of kind of harshly he also made
00:29:36.040the stipulation he would always say if a man is going to do this then a woman should do this and he would
00:29:40.920provide the stipulation i didn't see many videos where he was saying women should do this and women it was
00:29:45.640always if a man is doing this so i feel like coming back to him because you know that's the
00:29:51.240point you know you know if you think about andrew tate andrew tate is that look he's saying things
00:29:58.280where he's like okay he's telling the men to be real men and that's good because what that's doing
00:30:03.000is like we spoke about if men are real men a woman would not feel insecure or wanting to find a career
00:30:08.200job to provide because the men so if andrew tate is saying be a man and this is how to be a man
00:30:13.320what's wrong with that that's going to defeat the whole thing of okay this is how men should be
00:30:17.160and if you're like this which is good yeah there's some stuff he said before which is a new beginning
00:30:21.400point that's what he's telling for a man to be a real man if that's the case that should be embraced
00:30:26.120by our sisters yeah you know one thing i wanted to mention is um so the the when they say that they
00:30:38.120we have an exception these bad men they are the exceptions to the rules right now the reason why
00:30:45.560many sisters you guys can hear an echo no we can hear okay good so the reason why many sisters feel
00:30:54.440so um insecure it's because number it's not only because of these men that's the idea that's being
00:31:01.560pushed to them but it's really because they're being told that and that their value is weighed
00:31:07.400either in the level of to in relation to man or in terms of money you know if you be a mother you
00:31:15.640can have children you can have all of that you can have many children mashallah your family is all
00:31:20.440healthy and well but society will not praise you for that the way that they'd praise you if you're
00:31:25.560doing something out in society in a career or something like that because they've now made that
00:31:30.600financial status that's what you that's what your value is weighed in until you do everything a man
00:31:37.320can do then you're you're worthless so everything to do with femininity motherhood everything to do
00:31:43.960with us being a woman is being degraded yes and one of the reasons and the reason why this this is
00:31:50.680this has become so prevalent is because and it's one of the this is why i say all isms are interconnected
00:31:57.240right we have feminism here and it's interconnected to secularism why because when they took allah out
00:32:05.400of the equation they took god they created secular society they took god out of the equation now they
00:32:11.080have to set a standard by which everybody would now have to follow the standard so who did they put in
00:32:15.800the standard they put the man they put the masculine and so everything else would be inferior in front of
00:32:22.840allah in our distinctiveness both men and women are equal both the masculine and the feminine are equal
00:32:29.960in our distinctiveness so femininity it's different from masculinity but the value is the same our
00:32:36.840significance in society is the same what happens when you take a lot of the equation what has put us on
00:32:42.840that same level of significance is gone so then now what the masculine proceeds takes the place and now you
00:32:51.720have femininity and everything else which has to it's not on the same level anymore so now until you
00:32:58.280become the standard which is now the man you have to provide you have to work you have to do this you
00:33:03.560have to do that until you become that you will feel inferior and society will not praise you for that
00:33:09.560exactly and so that's what happened now with that's how secularism is interconnected to feminism
00:33:15.000they don't have a lot to put them all on the same level yeah i think uh sister what really uh
00:33:21.480just pointed out a lot of things that were uh really like um um had to be said and made clear
00:33:28.600and just so one point that i wanted to add i mean uh it's just an argument but i would even argue that
00:33:34.680the woman has been made just a product of the economy i mean a hundred years ago women weren't even
00:33:41.400working they were at home and were homemakers right but uh slowly until now i mean until today
00:33:49.160every every other woman is a working woman and is being taken out of this home bro the homemaker role
00:33:57.160and i think the main i mean if you think from the other side what is the advantage from let's say
00:34:05.960these people we always say they but we don't really know who they are but i think the one point
00:34:11.720what's really important to um like um look at is that we're just another like we're just being added
00:34:19.960to the people who pay tax right so if one man is working at one in one house he's providing for the
00:34:27.000home and he's one man that's uh paying taxes right but if the woman or the wife is main is being like
00:34:33.720made to go to work and then the children as soon as they are old enough everyone either even if it's
00:34:40.360a boy or a girl everyone goes to work more taxpayers i mean this is one argument that i haven't been
00:34:46.840thinking about but lately i just came across this and it really it really clicked and it makes a lot of
00:34:53.400sense when we're in these discussions exactly and it will increase the value of the demand that's working
00:34:59.320because if women stay at home then you there's more demand for workers that it will increase the
00:35:04.520value of the man and that man will provide because the value will increase um should go to wages as
00:35:10.440well it decreases the wages and the education system see now you get the children into the education
00:35:17.560system as quickly as possible and the education system actually benefits the corporate world so you
00:35:22.760get the children into the schools as quick as possible because both the man and the woman are out in
00:35:26.440the workforce and then now because you have more people working for you the jobs are less in demand
00:35:31.560you lower the wages yeah and then double the taxes now you have the whole population out into the
00:35:36.440society so those are the three advantages see that's how capitalism is now related to feminism
00:35:42.040and this is why i say all isms are interconnected i think some of the things that sisters are also
00:35:47.320annoyed about is how andrew tates said some things like um women don't know how to handle their emotion
00:35:54.520they are emotional and all of that scientifically it is true uh women women are more emotional so
00:36:03.080in a work environment men probably could handle that a little bit better than women could
00:36:09.240scientifically it's true so that it just makes sense it just makes sense everything
00:36:15.640everything you're being misogynistic i well if you define if you define the word it's when you
00:36:23.880have hate towards women and you hate yourself when andrew tate says that a lot of women that watch it
00:36:33.080just are sheep just like you said they don't even know what the word misogyny means so they will say
00:36:38.840yeah yeah he's misogynistic they will not have a clue what misogyny even means exactly so when you
00:36:45.880ask them oh by the way what what does misogyny even mean they just don't know what to say they
00:36:50.760will just freeze um andrew tate hasn't really said anything that has hate towards women
00:36:57.160so in my opinion in my opinion it's just it's just a lack of knowledge
00:37:03.880yeah it is and it's just it's just fear-mongering i just see it's what it's i mean what they're doing is
00:37:07.480the same with us muslims you know when they go and ask these you know people who don't like us
00:37:11.320yeah they're all like this they're like yeah okay what's what what does it say in the quran
00:37:15.160um they're like they don't know what's the quran say um no they just hate us we're just more like
00:37:20.520the muslims it's like it's just like the fear-mongering everyone's like oh my god scared
00:37:23.880do you know we're scared of no i don't know what it is have you read the book no i don't it's just
00:37:26.600this fear-mongering that's been happening um and you can you can you can see it subhanallah um and the
00:37:31.640study like in the book that i'm reading miseducation of woman james tooley he talks about there was a study
00:37:36.280done from the 1970s and mohammed ija mentioned in this podcast the 1990s they interviewed about
00:37:41.240100 000 women and you know if you look at it they are less happy the fact that all of you sisters
00:37:46.360are in sync like i'll be honest with you that the fact that you're like because you know why you want
00:37:50.280a husband that will protect and provide it's not the other way of this whole career woman etc you can
00:37:55.800see that women are less happy in the workplace i think 78 percent or 80 percent of women said that they
00:38:01.800they get stressed you know they have psych mental psychological issues pertaining to having to go
00:38:06.280to work they want somebody so if you look at our sisters or muslim females at large as well they
00:38:12.440generally don't want to go work they want traditional men but the point is also we need to be bare in
00:38:16.120mind as well are they traditional uh men yeah and that's another issue though which we need to be fair
00:38:21.240as well are men men today sadly they're not so i think there's a revival happening sister bako is
00:38:27.000there anything you would like to add on before we wrap up uh yes i fully agree with all the sisters
00:38:33.320and what they were saying i wanted to just add one thing to um to the sisters as well um the funny
00:38:40.680thing about feminism is that it has completely brainwashed the entire society and has brainwashed women
00:38:46.440into working and asking and begging to become a man basically and fulfilling manly and more
00:38:52.600masculine roles at the same times hating on the same masculine roles whenever men are um doing uh
00:39:00.040fulfilling those roles and calling them toxic and the funny thing is that men women actually don't have
00:39:06.760an issue with the word obey uh this is actually it is a very triggering word it kind of it's like a it's
00:39:12.600like a hot topic button it's like you turn it and everybody goes a little bit crazy but
00:39:17.000i noticed that most of the women especially the ones that are working who have been brainwashed into
00:39:22.040wanting to work and not do anything else to be able to value themselves to the to the quality of men
00:39:28.680with men um they don't mind obeying their boss they don't mind obeying their employer
00:39:34.920that's the hypocrisy absolutely it's enslavement to obey your husband and your children but it's
00:39:43.960empowerment to obey your boss do you see that absolutely absolutely it's complete hypocrisy if
00:39:49.720your husband asks you can you please make me a coffee um you'll be like oh no don't you dare
00:39:54.840i'm not your slave yeah exactly but the boss can tell her she'll be like she'll be like yes of course
00:39:59.560course you see that's the hypocrisy but that's the point it's all about sorry sorry sorry so i'm
00:40:04.760just a bit excited here sorry that because that it just really triggers me i'm so sorry
00:40:10.360no it's it's absolutely true if uh if your boss asks him oh yes of course so would you like milk
00:40:15.480and sugar with that but whenever it's your husband it's like oh i'm not your slave go do it yourself
00:40:19.480and the boss doesn't care about you he really doesn't care about you he'll replace you tomorrow if you
00:40:24.440misfire one sheet of paper whatever it is you know what they say about you and loves you
00:40:30.360you know you hear a lot of women busy saying oh but what if um you know i have to go and work i have
00:40:35.240to go and get a career what if my husband dies what if i get a divorce what if your boss fires you
00:40:40.840you're going to be in the same predicament your risk comes from a lie it doesn't come through a person
00:40:46.280that's what many women today think that there is it comes through a person it doesn't it it comes from
00:40:51.640a person it comes through a person if that person goes you're going to get your risk through another
00:40:55.880way exactly it's like taking the aql over the naql you know like thinking oh i'm the allah is the one
00:41:00.680who provides but it's very important because if you think about your boss has no connection to your
00:41:04.760kids and you as an individual yeah he can fire you immediately your husband will think twice because
00:41:09.880he'll have shared my life with this person i love this person we have kids so many factors that
00:41:15.000prevent him from giving the divorce and we know like most of the games in 70 or 80 of the time the
00:41:19.880women tend to initiate divorce anyways but the thing is they are what you said is very important
00:41:24.600if we reverse things and we said you know what if if if an individual if i was married to a woman
00:41:29.720who was like no you go do this exception she's the career woman or whatever i'll say you know what
00:41:33.880no problem i'm not paying for the rent shopping nothing we're going to have a employee uh employer
00:41:38.120relationship from now on i'm going to be paying you hourly rate how much do you want 25 pounds an hour
00:41:42.280no problem i'm going to be 30 pounds an hour and 30 pounds an hour there you go you can we're
00:41:45.960going to share the bills we're going to share the electric we're going to share the gas everything we're
00:41:49.240going to share you are now you're employed by me and i would like coffee in the morning please
00:41:54.120thank you very much and at 2 p.m i would like my food please i would like a biryani or lasagna and i
00:42:01.080would like and then you know what she would like well hold on a second this is exactly so what was
00:42:04.920the difference what was the difference when it is an employer it's like okay i have to if i don't i'm
00:42:10.120in trouble i have free strikes but when it's your husband do you get to say this so it's very very
00:42:15.720valid so i think that's it i don't need to say anything anymore i think may allah bless you guys
00:42:19.080well i i always like to have sisters coming on board because i can't speak for you you speak for
00:42:23.560yourself and i think you guys spoken very clear facts you know opinions you know we talked about
00:42:28.440things you know and once again i don't want sisters that are watching this we know and what we're
00:42:33.240striving for in the dawah field be honest with you is to get men to be men again we know sadly a lot of
00:42:39.080men are not men and when i hear this stuff of brothers saying yeah i want my wife to contribute
00:42:43.080it makes me sick she doesn't can i add to that please she doesn't need to contribute to nothing
00:42:47.640brother and if you can't if you are even thinking of that you're not ready for marriage
00:42:51.480please don't look for marriage you are not yeah can i add to that um what um i'm sure everybody
00:42:57.880has noticed what's happening to society they're turning um men into women and women into men
00:43:03.560so well women are they're turning themselves so masculine or just want to do work work work and
00:43:09.240go get go and get your go and get your money says boss babe and all of those uh girl boss
00:43:15.720bs that you're seeing everywhere and men are being celebrated for turning into women and being more
00:43:21.560feminine and they're feminizing men and the funny thing is we're living in this really weird um delusion
00:43:28.760because let's be honest whenever the real world real life actually hits you see what happened in
00:43:34.760ukraine the moment that the war started women and children everybody go i belong in the kitchen
00:43:39.720they have to stay in front yeah yeah women are like yeah let's go we have to like forget feminism
00:43:45.640they drop their feminism like it's like you should have seen it on tiktok all over tiktok all these
00:43:50.360feminists yeah yeah they're like i want to go back to the kitchen they're like i don't know
00:43:53.880it was a transgender woman yeah and he was literally said no no no you're going to war sorry
00:44:05.160there's no see so when reality hits when reality is like if you think about it how many of you
00:44:11.480sisters if you're in a house may allah protect you guys and the house is on fire and they say okay
00:44:15.880we're going to call the feminist fire brigade and they're all women how many of you guys you
00:44:19.320you'll be like no no no i don't i don't no no i need men no thank you they wouldn't even come
00:44:25.320even if you called them they wouldn't come no they wouldn't how many feminists would want a group
00:44:31.400of women fire fight like fire brigade team coming to save you there's certain things they're not going
00:44:36.360to be able to do i mean you're gonna have to carry a person on your shoulder yeah okay and imagine and
00:44:41.560like you know some people are quite heavy you know imagine you just you're gonna die no feminist would
00:44:46.520want that i think that's it i think we could maybe inshallah you sisters were amazing may allah
00:44:50.680bless every single one of you guys may allah preserve you guys thanks for giving this opportunity to have
00:44:54.920your say inshallah uh and brothers and sisters who are watching at home hope you guys benefited from
00:44:59.160this may allah bless all the sisters you heard from themselves this perception that muslim women don't
00:45:04.040like andrew tay etc he's not perfect we're not here to praise him let's just make this very clear
00:45:08.040but we have a fine balance we're not overly praising him we're not here to like have a go at
00:45:12.280we've seen he accepted islam he has a past that we all do inshallah forgiven forgiven inshallah
00:45:17.560and we hope that he has a good ending and a good life inshallah um we're just here to talk about
00:45:22.280those facts um sisters uh wad wants to say something quickly just one more thing i have to say to these
00:45:28.440sisters here i have a community of traditional sisters and i just love what you guys were saying
00:45:34.600and i'd love you guys to join it's called uh the sisters corner we are a network of like-minded
00:45:39.720sisters and we want to the sinner guy probably knows us he can tell you more about us inshallah
00:45:44.520abidawah um but for you guys you can find us on instagram the sisters corner and i'd love to have
00:45:49.640you guys join because i'd love to get in contact with like-minded sisters and our objective is to
00:45:55.160revive traditional islamic values and to write so inshallah i'd love to have all of you guys join us
00:46:02.680inshallah sister imani any last words uh no just again it's been really nice to speak to some people
00:46:10.600that are on the same page um i find myself having to hold my tongue and just keep quiet
00:46:15.960in a lot of situations and conversations going on recently um and yeah it was nice it was nice that
00:46:23.000some people are on the same page and understand but also it's nice that you understand that you know
00:46:28.760uh not that we agree with these sisters views but we can understand what's planted that in their head
00:46:33.560and we can sympathize with them and try and you know encourage a different way of thinking
00:46:39.320which is very valid because we don't want to dismiss these sisters that's why i opened the plan
00:46:42.680yeah they're confused or they're worried about something they obviously have this fear
00:46:46.120and genuine concern and we need to understand that we can't brush it off if someone has a genuine
00:46:51.480concern and they're hurt that shows if somebody's email is hurt that it's not coming from a place of
00:46:56.360just trivial it's something that there's a misunderstanding and like you said we're
00:47:00.760not here to belittle them just so to understand them etc inshallah