Ali Dawah - December 06, 2019


NEARLY GOING MAD AT HER THEN I REALISED - SPEAKERS CORNER


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Length

6 minutes

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Word count

1,420

Sentence count

131

Harmful content

Misogyny

2

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Toxicity

2

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Hate speech

11

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Jummah Kutbahaykah on Dawah in the speaker's corner. Is it a good or bad thing? What are the pros and cons of having a speaker in the corner? What is the role of a speaker and what does it mean to be a good one?

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00:00:00.000 And about benefits and the pros and cons, if you like, of the Dawah in Speaker's Corner. 0.92
00:00:05.980 Now, obviously, this is somewhat of a subjective discussion, right?
00:00:09.900 There'll be people that fall on both sides.
00:00:11.360 Some people say that it's more negative, some say that it's more positive.
00:00:14.940 Generally, would you acknowledge, bro, that there is an issue underlying there,
00:00:18.440 which is that Muslims, generally speaking, are not adopting what you're saying,
00:00:22.600 which is good characteristics and good mannerisms in conveying the message there?
00:00:27.000 Yes, 100%.
00:00:28.380 Look, the thing is, what happens is, look, there's pros and cons.
00:00:30.860 I believe generally that the pros outweigh it because it's globally watched.
00:00:36.040 And a lot of the times, people, yes, they hear the arguments, et cetera.
00:00:38.600 Muslims, Iman, they want to hear it.
00:00:40.400 They use these arguments and apply it in their Dawah as well.
00:00:43.360 It's good, you know.
00:00:44.640 But what we forget is that, yes, you're empowering the Muslims, et cetera.
00:00:48.540 But is that going to come at the cost of, okay, you're preserving, yeah?
00:00:52.440 What was it, my sheikh said?
00:00:54.120 You're preserving the capital.
00:00:56.080 So, no, that was another thing.
00:00:58.220 Don't worry, I've got it confused.
00:00:59.800 But it's important that, for example, while you're doing that, you're preserving the Muslims,
00:01:02.840 you're losing newcomers, yeah?
00:01:05.120 Yeah.
00:01:05.560 So, now, there has to be balance.
00:01:07.380 When you go into the speaker's corner, you see, it's like Transformers.
00:01:10.000 You transform.
00:01:10.840 You know, it's like a robot.
00:01:11.540 You transform.
00:01:11.920 Don't worry, my speaker's corner now, yeah?
00:01:13.900 Algorithm.
00:01:14.980 Superman.
00:01:15.520 Superman, yeah?
00:01:16.560 Superman, yeah?
00:01:17.460 The thing is, is that what I've realized as As-Salaam, our organization, the reason why
00:01:21.900 we call it sharing affection, love, and mercy is that because we want to change that, man.
00:01:27.260 We really want to change that.
00:01:28.160 So, we, our, you know, our philosophy, you can say, is let people see Islam.
00:01:35.340 Let not people hear Islam. 1.00
00:01:36.680 Yeah.
00:01:37.140 Let people see Islam in our actions. 0.87
00:01:39.980 And this is one of the biggest things that is lacking.
00:01:42.360 And a lot of brothers in the park, because they come across people that are arrogant or
00:01:46.260 have an ego, whatever it may be, what they do is they transform into, they're catering
00:01:52.460 for that person.
00:01:53.020 To meet them on their level, basically.
00:01:54.060 On their level.
00:01:54.660 Now, Allah says in the Quran, repel evil with good.
00:01:57.720 Yeah.
00:01:58.200 Sometimes, okay, you need to repel evil with evil sometimes, yeah?
00:02:01.540 Obviously, but the best is Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala tells us.
00:02:03.260 But like, for example, like a person like David Wood, he needs somebody like Hijab. 1.00
00:02:07.080 Yeah?
00:02:07.540 Like Hijab transformed quite well. 0.99
00:02:09.080 Yeah.
00:02:09.580 Like, I...
00:02:10.240 Well, here's the thing, on that point, but I think it's just to, just, sorry about cutting
00:02:13.900 you, because I think what you're saying is important.
00:02:15.420 So, there may be a certain time where you have to adopt a certain approach in speaking
00:02:23.400 to someone, right?
00:02:24.660 Um, but that's not the norm, right?
00:02:27.760 Yes.
00:02:27.980 You have to make that.
00:02:28.640 See, that's why when Hijab was having that discussion, before the debate, for example,
00:02:32.380 we knew, he knew.
00:02:34.000 Yeah.
00:02:34.260 We said to him, and he knows himself, that he even said it when he was having a debate.
00:02:38.280 He said, he's not James White.
00:02:39.840 Yes.
00:02:40.240 If he was James, he made that clarification.
00:02:41.840 We said, make that very clear.
00:02:42.980 Yeah.
00:02:43.120 Yeah?
00:02:43.460 Because this person is somebody that mocks the deen, lies about the prophet, insults
00:02:46.880 him.
00:02:47.100 Yeah?
00:02:47.520 Dresses up like a woman. 1.00
00:02:48.860 Yeah?
00:02:49.400 And does all this kind of stuff.
00:02:50.580 So, this guy deserves that treatment.
00:02:51.960 Absolutely.
00:02:52.240 So, I believe anybody coming and saying to Hijab, he was arrogant, I totally disagree.
00:02:55.760 Hijab done a beautiful job there.
00:02:57.120 Absolutely.
00:02:57.480 It served his purpose.
00:02:58.220 There's Christians that look at the, what's his name?
00:03:01.500 David Wood.
00:03:02.540 Wood.
00:03:03.000 I call him Rottenwood usually.
00:03:04.020 Honestly.
00:03:05.440 I would say he's worse in many ways.
00:03:07.080 Because it's unfortunate that here's an individual that's supposedly following the Christian 1.00
00:03:10.400 tradition, yet comes across in such a nasty and derogatory way towards human beings.
00:03:15.200 And I think there's Christians, bro.
00:03:16.520 There's Christians out there that recognize this and actually.
00:03:19.580 Like James White.
00:03:20.280 Exactly, bro.
00:03:20.840 And they don't consider him.
00:03:22.500 Of course.
00:03:23.080 They've rebuked him.
00:03:23.600 Any authority from that perspective.
00:03:24.820 They've rebuked him.
00:03:25.000 They've rebuked him for that.
00:03:25.860 But I think another point to clarify here is, bro.
00:03:28.640 The issue that happens is, someone maybe saw Hijab, and it's good that he clarified
00:03:31.640 that if it was James White, etc.
00:03:32.800 Someone may see a debate like that, or another debate in Speaker's Corner, where the Muslim
00:03:36.140 is a bit more not.
00:03:37.720 There should be no excuse for having bad manners and bad traits.
00:03:41.080 Obviously, at times, you can come across more assertive and more forceful, but still
00:03:45.260 maintaining good characterism.
00:03:46.580 Yes.
00:03:47.080 Very true.
00:03:47.560 Now, but unfortunately, that doesn't happen in some cases.
00:03:51.660 But what ends up happening sometimes is, someone, some young Muslim brother or sister 1.00
00:03:55.620 is watching this debate online, and they think, okay, they take the points, but they also
00:04:00.180 take the characteristics, and they apply it to John down the road, right?
00:04:03.260 Which is a problem in and of itself, right?
00:04:04.740 That's exactly what I was about to say.
00:04:05.220 So how do you try counter this?
00:04:06.580 What do you do personally to try counter this?
00:04:07.860 That's what I was going to say.
00:04:08.800 You know, that's why when I said, for example, when you're dealing with a specific person
00:04:10.860 that's arrogant, and you're talking to him in that manner, what Speaker's Corner does
00:04:15.760 is because it's a routine.
00:04:17.200 Because you see, I've been watching some videos on the subconscious mind, yeah?
00:04:20.720 Because subconsciously, what you're doing is you're programming yourself.
00:04:23.240 Every Sunday, you're going there, and you're talking to this person.
00:04:26.660 What's happening now is that you're carrying that.
00:04:28.760 Not only, forget Dawah, you're taking that home. 1.00
00:04:31.840 Yeah?
00:04:32.400 You're with the wife, and you're starting dropping some arguments.
00:04:34.960 Some arguments.
00:04:35.640 Some arguments.
00:04:36.180 Yo, what's your premise?
00:04:37.020 Your premise is wrong. 0.90
00:04:37.920 What the hell are you talking about?
00:04:39.400 Do you get it? 0.92
00:04:39.920 It causes a problem everywhere.
00:04:42.000 So that's the reason why you have to, like, have a detox.
00:04:45.540 You have to say to yourself, okay, calm down.
00:04:47.160 Sometimes I'll see a genuine person, and I'll look at the prophet, and the prophet says,
00:04:50.900 I'm like, look, man, you're not speaking to David Wood.
00:04:53.100 Like, it really hurts me.
00:04:54.180 I'm like, you're actually ruining what you're doing.
00:04:56.300 Like, being frustrated.
00:04:57.520 Look, let it be.
00:04:58.620 Sometimes we need to understand this causes damage.
00:05:01.000 This arrogant behavior, you know, look, the Dawah is bigger than your ego. 0.99
00:05:05.060 It's bigger than your ego.
00:05:06.220 If you feel like, oh, they offended me, and I need to put them in their place,
00:05:08.800 you have some problems in your head, you know, and sometimes I'll fall for that.
00:05:13.160 But the thing is, spot the weaknesses and try to work on it.
00:05:16.600 I try my best to, sometimes I was having a discussion with one lady, yes, and I was
00:05:23.340 speaking to her.
00:05:23.800 Before that, her friend came who was insulting the prophet, literally insulting the prophet.
00:05:28.320 And I didn't drop to a level, I just turned my back to her, yeah?
00:05:32.700 And she went on a mad one. 1.00
00:05:34.600 After I had to, like, talk to her, yeah?
00:05:38.260 And kind of put her in a place, yeah?
00:05:39.940 I'm sorry because she was insulting the prophet, yeah?
00:05:41.680 She went.
00:05:42.740 Her friend came.
00:05:43.660 Her friend was more softer and polite.
00:05:45.160 She wanted to know.
00:05:46.120 Now, what I did is, I thought, okay, they're together.
00:05:48.000 And I started a bit raggle.
00:05:50.480 And then through it, I couldn't even show you the video.
00:05:52.320 And then I stopped and I said, madam, can you give me a second?
00:05:55.100 She said, yeah.
00:05:55.860 I said, I'm sorry.
00:05:56.760 She said, right.
00:05:57.220 I just said, along those lines.
00:05:59.020 I said, sorry.
00:05:59.780 I had to detox in the moment because I had to just, okay, this is not her. 0.95
00:06:04.920 Ali, come back to your senses. 0.75
00:06:06.000 This is somebody maybe genuinely want to know.
00:06:08.160 I had to, you know, take, you know, transform myself.
00:06:11.080 Because what happens is you can get caught up easily.
00:06:13.740 You know, subconscious mind can say to you, no, no, no, no.
00:06:15.740 This was a person and it was sad because she said that her dad abused her.
00:06:19.580 And that hurt me.
00:06:20.980 You know, and I thought to myself, subhanAllah, imagine if I came down like, no, no, no, no,
00:06:25.080 you're going to make it worse.