Ali Dawah - August 05, 2024


PATRIOT MAN & MUSLIM ON UK R!OTS - WHY DID THEY START？


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In this episode we discuss the recent events that have happened in London and the impact it has had on the Muslim community. We discuss the role of the far-right and how they use the events that happen and use them for their own agenda.

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00:00:00.000 I understand your perspective completely and I think you've explained it very well
00:00:02.540 but when I look at things objectively I think they were looking for a reason to be angry
00:00:06.400 they were angry at what happened everyone was angry nobody was was okay with it everyone was
00:00:09.560 angry it was a sick thing to do so when it came out the misinformation from the Russians let's 0.62
00:00:14.120 say or whatever it might be people were looking for a reason to be angry at somebody who were
00:00:18.820 angry at who did it was it this person why was it Muslims why did they do you want to speak with 0.97
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00:00:43.300 what happened was horrific my daughter is seven I can't even let alone fathom what my daughter if
00:00:51.240 that was my daughter in that uh dance club just hurt can't defend herself a crazy deranged man with 1.00
00:00:59.920 a knife stabbing people around she's going to be the next I wouldn't want to be in her position let 1.00
00:01:04.540 alone me as a father knowing my daughter was going through that and I could be there for her yeah it's
00:01:09.460 I cannot even put it into words what the family's going through yeah so I know what's happened is
00:01:14.560 very disgusting but to me what is more sickening is when people take advantage of these things that
00:01:20.780 happen and use it for their own agenda yeah now if the far right didn't have which I'm telling you 0.94
00:01:25.700 that their hate for Islam is greater than the love for those girls they would have said hold on a
00:01:29.920 second we don't even know what's going on let's wait and see Tommy Robinson didn't do that the far
00:01:35.820 right didn't do that the first thing they did was what the rhetoric of indirect incitement of what
00:01:40.500 he was a Muslim that came on a boat that right here where did you get that from why where is it
00:01:46.300 automatically that if your coffee is flipping cold it's the Muslims it's like ISIS they were 1.00
00:01:51.220 claiming responsibility for everything so much so once I burnt my toast and I said it must be ISIS 0.95
00:01:55.420 it cannot be any other one else no no for some odd reason they always claim responsibility so when I
00:02:00.520 look at the far right right yeah and I look at these individuals I'm seeing how sick and sick in the
00:02:05.380 head you have to be that you are attacking a mosque you haven't verified any information and then what
00:02:10.220 does Tommy Robinson do he does a video trying to give you know because you know it's going to
00:02:15.260 backfire he realized it's not a Muslim but then he goes and attaches that story of the young girls
00:02:19.460 and goes yeah but there are Muslims who are walking around with knives and why did you have to bring 1.00
00:02:23.420 a Muslim into the story what why does there have to be a correlation it's like Daily Mail they talk
00:02:27.480 about a story for example about migrants and they take a picture of three hijabi women going doing
00:02:32.880 shopping in Oxford Street the picture they're trying to put in your head is the following
00:02:36.840 subconsciously migrants evil bad just remember these hijabis remember these women in veils 1.00
00:02:43.880 this is what we're dealing with and the thing is look as much as you feared for your life when ISIS 1.00
00:02:48.960 was doing madness I sometimes fear walking with my wife and with my children I don't know what idiot 0.99
00:02:54.580 is going to come with what brainwashed ideology that he's watched to come harm me look I don't mind 0.97
00:02:59.060 me my family or my kids so that's the fear I'm living in as much as you are we're both in the same
00:03:03.520 category me and you you're an innocent person Ryan I don't know what you do you work you study
00:03:07.380 yeah yeah I work I study exactly you've got a wife girlfriend yeah exactly you have kids yeah 0.99
00:03:11.560 same imagine you're walking down the road and you're thinking which maniac Muslim brainwashed 0.98
00:03:15.840 ISIS member is going to think I'm a legitimate target and attack me and I'm in the same boat thinking 1.00
00:03:19.920 which idiot far right scumbag who's watching Tommy Robinson going to come and kill me me and you 1.00
00:03:26.120 are on this side of the boat yeah no we are I agree no I completely agree but it's just to me 1.00
00:03:30.840 you've got a super I try and look at it objectively I know there's obviously I understand your perspective
00:03:36.560 completely and I think you've explained it very well but when I look at things objectively I think
00:03:40.600 they were looking for a reason to be angry they were angry at what happened everyone was angry
00:03:43.560 nobody was was okay with it everyone was angry it was a sick thing to do so when it came out the
00:03:48.480 misinformation from the Russians let's say or whatever it might be people were looking for a
00:03:52.460 reason to be angry at somebody who were we angry at who did it was it this person was it that
00:03:56.520 why was it Muslims why they said it was Muslims okay so there are people out there in the far 1.00
00:04:01.760 right and I agree and they will look and say for example it turned out to be a Christian or it turned
00:04:06.760 out to be someone that wasn't Muslim and it was a Christian well he was a Christian family we don't 0.99
00:04:10.760 know if he was actually a practicing Christian he used to go to the church he said yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:04:15.240 look this is the issue he was a Christian no this is this is the point yeah when a Muslim does something 1.00
00:04:22.320 bad the far right automatically lay bit and connected to Islam I agree when when the 0.93
00:04:26.960 Grenfell towers were burning yeah the Muslims were coming from early morning uh prayers from 1.00
00:04:31.840 Ramadan yeah so they were the reason why they woke up the neighbors to save their lives yeah when we
00:04:35.760 would come and say look Muslims did something good they will say why do you have to bring Islam into 1.00
00:04:39.440 that I'm like so when it's bad it's Islam but when it's good it's not Islam so what I'm saying is 1.00
00:04:43.120 that person was a church going they're from Rwanda 97% of the population you've got to be careful 1.00
00:04:46.880 you say church going he used to go to church okay the point I'm saying is this when I say he's a church going
00:04:51.440 individual yeah people know what I'm saying because I don't I we suffer from that people
00:04:55.360 yeah label this individual he went to a mosque his religion has got nothing to do with it no no I
00:04:59.280 agree but why is it when it's a Muslim his religion has got something to do with it that's my point 0.97
00:05:03.040 yeah that's what I'm saying is the church go up no I understand that like I say I think the far
00:05:06.000 right looking for a reason to be angry at the Muslims and again I completely understand what you're 1.00
00:05:09.200 saying with that but you've got to also understand that it came out and people generally believe this
00:05:13.600 was the case now if I were to say and again I'm not going to start making wild stories that never 0.65
00:05:18.400 happened but say if a Christian was to go and attack a Muslim family for example and kill 0.96
00:05:22.320 innocent Muslim children what would your reaction be you would be angry of course I'll be under the 1.00
00:05:26.720 situation you would be very angry yes and there would be people out there but I can't generalize
00:05:30.960 no no no of course but there will be people out there yeah that maybe would do that maybe not you
00:05:36.000 maybe not people you know yeah but there would be people out there that would do that yeah and
00:05:39.040 a similar thing has happened with the far right and yes I know there is an issue with the far right
00:05:42.240 like I'm saying but you've got to understand that they were angry and they did what they did because
00:05:45.440 they were angry and it was because of this misinformation that was being spread all over
00:05:48.960 and it wasn't just in one place it was everywhere and everyone was so certain there was videos going
00:05:52.640 up of people who didn't exist and saying this is the man that did it there were fake names yes
00:05:56.800 you know there was always stories going around and of course people are going to be angry
00:05:59.840 okay but I understand so your perspective would be they are looking for it to be a Muslim they
00:06:04.000 don't want it to be anyone else they don't they don't I appreciate that yeah I do and there are
00:06:08.000 people like that just as there are people like in the example I gave to you if it was a Christian family
00:06:11.760 and it was vice versa there would be people they would then go and attack Christian okay so so
00:06:16.240 so yesterday a few more attacks happened yes a doubt you know this is called the dawah table
00:06:20.560 what we have behind you is our table where we give invite people to Islam yeah a table like was
00:06:24.480 attacked on Liverpool street now it's very clear that he was not a Muslim why are there protests
00:06:28.880 being demonstrated now and they are attacking Muslims so I'm trying to understand that's a good question 1.00
00:06:33.120 no no but the point is this though but it shows you they don't care they just want look if they
00:06:38.320 could if they could they would somehow magically blame him to be a Muslim so where is this obsession
00:06:44.560 coming with Muslims because the thing is to me is the only people or shall I say a state that you
00:06:49.040 cannot criticize is Israel Zionist when they talk about freedom of speech if there's any particular
00:06:53.760 group that you cannot talk is is Zionist you're going to talk about Israel Tommy Robinson is directly
00:06:58.000 being funded by Zionism directly being funded so the question I have to ask is the following that's
00:07:03.280 why I believe if they had a time machine and they went back and gave Tommy Robinson and Paul
00:07:08.320 Golding two options go back in time the girls will never be killed second option they will be killed 0.98
00:07:13.920 but the perpetrator will be a Muslim I swear to god this sick man would say I'll rather go back because 0.99
00:07:19.520 you know why it helps our agenda to get rid of Muslims if you're going to lose three girls let it be so 1.00
00:07:23.920 this is what I believe you know why because it doesn't come from me Caelan Robertson who used to work
00:07:28.000 for Tommy Robinson told me clearly I don't know if you know me I went to one of his march Tommy
00:07:32.080 Robinson's march and we got attacked I don't know if you know vaguely okay so so yeah we got we got
00:07:36.080 attacked freedom of speech yeah okay okay yeah it was really freedom of speech yeah so um he said to
00:07:40.960 me anytime a terrorist attack would happen Tommy Robinson would get happy that's coming from an
00:07:45.440 insider meaning what how sick do you have to be that you are joy you are happy that a group of
00:07:52.800 innocent men women and children like yourself were killed why because it supports your agenda then now 0.95
00:07:58.080 do you understand ryan when i say his hatred to islam is greater than his love for his people
00:08:04.160 that's where i'm coming from you might disagree but no i can't accept that that's where i personally
00:08:08.720 can't accept that Tommy Robinson although then why would he get happy over it when he hears oh who
00:08:12.800 was it it was muslims okay he's happy have you ever seen him rejoice about people being killed by 1.00
00:08:17.360 muslims or did you see him rejoice with the three children i i i i have direct i have direct evidence
00:08:22.000 from cain and robertson who told me he's worked with Tommy Robinson yeah and they he was staunch he
00:08:27.040 was really really close with Tommy Robinson yeah they they're the ones who arranged the events lucy
00:08:31.040 brown cain and robertson and george he said to me with his own mouth he said when a terrorist attack 0.98
00:08:36.640 happens Tommy Robinson will get happy if this is true this is not safety of this man is a sicko 0.96
00:08:41.360 if it's true if i was true he's a sicko and i believe it's true because i didn't pick cain and 0.95
00:08:45.520 robertson he wanted to interview we had interview and he said this and i said you know what i know 0.94
00:08:49.760 he did i know i have no doubt this man is so sick you know why it's the same with isis when when 0.68
00:08:56.640 certain things happen they get happy you know why because it aids their agenda because they like we 0.96
00:09:00.800 want to attack the westerners when the westerners attack our countries muslims get aggressive we can 1.00
00:09:06.000 brainwash couple of idiots and get them into our it works the cycle continues and who is 1.00
00:09:11.200 the one that gets harmed ryan and ali's family walking down the road and getting killed yeah 1.00
00:09:14.880 we are the ones that are suffering while Tommy Robinson is snorting cocaine with the donations 0.79
00:09:18.240 that he took and sleeping with prostitutes yes and by the way he's not to beat his wife up as well
00:09:22.320 this vile man he's the one who's in his nice house in a jacuzzi while me and you are bickering or 0.92
00:09:28.400 fighting each other this is what's happening bro so that's what that's where i'm coming from and i
00:09:32.240 believe i have i mean it's it's clear for them to now carry they've got demonstrations happening by the
00:09:35.920 the way all through august yeah yeah and we are being told okay we've got tables that we open in
00:09:40.320 the leicester square be careful yeah why do you have to be careful bro this guy's not even a muslim 0.98
00:09:43.920 he's not even a muslim what the hell do you what do you want from us i think that is one but i do 0.93
00:09:47.200 agree with you one but i don't know why the protests are continuing even though now we know this person 0.97
00:09:50.800 is not muslim i do agree with that they hate us they hate us i trust they hate us right i mean 1.00
00:09:55.680 what's your stance on with the far right and what's going on uh i'm not far right no i never said
00:10:00.880 obviously i stand for british values i stand for british culture however i would not for me personally
00:10:04.880 um i would never have gone and attacked any mosque or anything like that um you know especially
00:10:09.840 without confirming who it is and even then i still wouldn't do it it's not what i would do
00:10:14.080 and i think the far right are problematic in their own way but i think um they talk they talk about
00:10:19.280 you know what happened in manchester with the police officer kick that guy's head yeah yeah i saw
00:10:22.400 the footage where they were attacked the police officers yeah yeah and to me i was like okay
00:10:27.200 at the end of the day when we're talking they were like oh look at these guys they have a right
00:10:29.920 to get their heads kicked in they were head offices okay firstly there's no excuse to kick someone in the
00:10:34.000 the head yeah what they did was wrong for hitting a police officer they should get dealt with yeah
00:10:38.480 not in that manner but legally yeah but now they are the ones that are throwing rocks and
00:10:42.480 about 40 or 45 police officers were injured yeah so see i don't understand when it's a muslim 1.00
00:10:48.240 kick his head in when the far right attack police officers yes okay do you see what i'm saying the
00:10:53.600 the point is why is it that one will you know what that shows dehumanization this happened in nazi 0.91
00:10:58.480 germany yeah hitler dehumanized jews to such a level that when it take the time came to pull 0.94
00:11:05.120 the trigger people were ready because they were seen as cockroaches they made them look like they 0.75
00:11:09.520 are some insects they are violent this is what happens systematic way of dehumanizing and that's 0.93
00:11:16.320 the reason why where you have incidents of a muslim pregnant woman being attacked stabbed acid
00:11:21.360 attacks etc why because of this and that's why we're here to educate people and tell them what's
00:11:26.480 i've got to do my religion grooming gowns what the flipping hell's grooming gowns got to do with 1.00
00:11:29.920 islam yeah i'm trying to understand mate look young girls whoever they are being groomed yeah 0.65
00:11:35.440 do you really think i've said this before if i had a white girl neighbor do you really think i'm 0.79
00:11:40.320 going to watch a group of asians or whoever the hell they are grooming a girl and i'm going to go 0.98
00:11:44.240 oh it's fine it's not it's not one of us no my religion tells me to stop evil even with my hand 0.92
00:11:50.640 if i cannot at least speak out against it if not hate it in your heart so my religion says these groomers 0.68
00:11:56.320 or whoever they are they were using drugs not permissible in islam sleep sex outside of 0.94
00:12:01.040 marriage is not allowed let alone rape so i'm thinking hold on a second what grooming gangs
00:12:07.120 got to do with islam i'm trying to understand and there isn't and then we look at paedophilia
00:12:12.480 go to google and write paedophile the most pictures will come you'll see they all look like tommy
00:12:16.720 robinson middle-aged white man they're middle-aged white men now am i going to come and say oh i'm 0.67
00:12:21.040 i'm all the white no why would i generalize there are evil people in america there is a
00:12:25.760 mass shooting nearly every week it's some white deranged individual do we come and say oh what's 1.00
00:12:30.240 the problem is it connected to the bible no there are scumbags everywhere there are evil people 0.99
00:12:34.720 everywhere we are we're just saying let's come together and tackle the evil but they call evil 0.97
00:12:40.240 islam yeah i think just to finish this point before i go as well i think the far right would look for any
00:12:45.440 excuse to be angry or something yes any excuse to be angry or something um and i think they're
00:12:49.840 already angry they're angry people as we know they even beat their wife's stuff no it's stella
00:12:53.280 yeah the stella drink is not a wife beat her their team their team losing the fight and they're going 0.96
00:12:57.280 to take out on their wives not all of them don't generalize there's some nice ones um so yeah i like
00:13:06.000 to say i think the far right looking for an excuse to be angry they was given that excuse that they're
00:13:09.040 angry it was wrong of them to do that yeah um and on that note i say thank you thank you ryan it was a
00:13:13.920 pleasure you're a very nice young gentleman yeah uh here with your wife who are you with uh just
00:13:18.480 my friend nathan over there okay just give a shout out to your girlfriend where's she what's her name 0.99
00:13:23.520 lauren lauren yeah lauren's my sister oh that's okay yeah yeah what's your girlfriend's name
00:13:31.760 laura laura yeah laura look after ryan he's a young man as you can see you never know he might
00:13:35.680 accept the islam ones i'm joking and i might do the islamic marriage for you guys please let me know
00:13:41.680 yeah yeah i'm joking yeah thank you ryan it was a pleasure man thank you thank you thank you