Ali Dawah - PIERS & HIJAB CORNER !DF GENERAL LIVE ON TV

00:00:00.000 You lost the war.

00:00:01.180 You should be ashamed of yourself. 1.00

00:00:02.780 You're an embarrassment. 1.00

00:00:04.000 You're telling these people to die for you. 1.00

00:00:05.720 Fight yourself. 1.00

00:00:06.380 Why are you a coward? 0.98

00:00:07.440 Be a man and speak the truth. 0.99

00:00:08.680 Don't be a weasel. 0.97

00:00:10.160 Don't be a coward. 1.00

00:00:10.900 Don't be a coward. 1.00

00:00:11.800 Don't backtrack now.

00:00:15.820 Allah says in the Quran of Surah Ma'un, 0.57

00:00:17.640 Have you seen the one who denies the day of judgment? 0.54

00:00:19.940 Look how Allah connects denying the day of judgment to what?

00:00:22.080 And the one who pushes away the orphan and doesn't feed the needy.

00:00:25.300 Pushing the orphan is not physical push, guys.

00:00:26.840 we are sponsoring orphans with one ummah around the world brothers and sisters whose parents have

00:00:31.320 died like the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam subhanallah imagine the reward one ummah is a 100

00:00:35.440 donation policy brothers and sisters and i do not get a cut out of this or a commission out of this

00:00:40.220 i'm genuinely asking brothers and sisters because allah is equating the one who pushes away the

00:00:44.880 orphan to the one who denies that they are judgment you guys are believers and in the quran

00:00:48.680 allah talks about the ones who steal the wealth of the orphans they are putting nothing but fire

00:00:53.080 in their tummy brothers and sisters the link is there sponsor and offer even if it's for one

00:00:56.760 month enjoy the video assalamualaikum guys hope you guys are well inshallah i don't know if you

00:00:59.900 guys have seen the videos but if you haven't this is just the highlights brothers instead of you

00:01:02.960 guys watching the whole thing i'm going to mention five to six key points where hijab caught him out

00:01:07.240 and i'm going to give you guys some tools that you can use and equip yourself when you are talking

00:01:10.580 about this talking point pertaining to islam and the whole situation inshallah so let's watch it 0.51

00:01:15.980 for ourselves inshallah brothers this was absolutely epic phenomenal he absolutely got annihilated and

00:01:20.960 this is the reason why he was running away from hijab from this debate. Let's get straight into

00:01:23.400 inshallah. So much so even Piers Morgan was on hijab side. Let's watch it for ourselves. 1.00

00:01:26.840 In the 7th century, when Islam conquered about half of the known world or third of the known 0.98

00:01:32.380 world by force, by the power of the sword, it was jihad and conquest with the power of the sword. 0.95

00:01:37.000 In the 21st century, what's happening in Europe is that it is a slow, relatively peaceful,

00:01:41.720 relatively legal conquest by immigration and then by birth rate. And it's a conquest from within. 0.77

00:01:47.460 Now, your introduction speaks about Israel and makes the connection. I don't really see the 0.88

00:01:50.720 connection here. One issue, I mean, there's a lot going on in Israel and a lot going on in the

00:01:53.920 Middle East, and we definitely have our plate full, but I don't think that the two issues are really

00:01:57.260 connected. There are, however, people that have a very strong and burning hatred against Israel

00:02:01.680 who find themselves in the camp of the Muslim Brotherhood and the pro-Islamists, but that

00:02:05.880 doesn't really make the topic related to Israel. Now, one thing that I think we should acknowledge

00:02:09.400 first, which a lot of Europeans are sensitive about saying and acknowledging, and that's the 0.99

00:02:13.340 fact that the immigrants come from failing or failed states. If their form of government, 0.67

00:02:17.340 if their societies and culture was compatible or equivalent or as good as or as functioning as 0.96

00:02:22.300 western society they would not be immigrating and i think that basic notion of understanding

00:02:26.620 why people migrate and why out of their own volition they try to get to the west because

00:02:31.100 their systems work and their law and order exists and there there's welfare and many other things

00:02:34.860 and there there's tolerance i think should cause a lot of decision makers to pause and assess well

00:02:38.700 if they're coming from there what type of failed mindset are they bringing with them and what are

00:02:42.540 they going to try to do in our countries i think that there is a heavy okay interesting so you saw

00:02:46.620 abram sisters very the same talking points it's scripted you can see now even you have so-called

00:02:51.340 muslims from the arab countries who are coming out same exact talking points muslim brotherhood

00:02:56.780 this that etc which we don't understand what they're talking about it's the exact talking

00:03:01.420 points okay we're going to come to him talking about islam conquered yes islam conquered

00:03:05.900 but there's a difference between conquering this is very key for you guys number one

00:03:10.220 conquering and forced conversions conquering you can conquer lands many empires so they can do it

00:03:15.820 and we can't but the muslims didn't go and pillage and bring uh the jewel the crown jewels back to 0.91

00:03:20.200 you know and all the artifacts all this kind of stuff stolen and brought it back to mecca you 0.83

00:03:23.420 don't see that but you see this in this country the united kingdom go to the british museum yeah

00:03:26.360 go look at the crown jewels of uh uh the queen who's passed away okay you can see clearly that 0.99

00:03:31.500 they went and pillaged islam wherever it went it uplifted the people and there was no islam 0.99

00:03:36.540 clearly says there is no compulsion in religion conquering means we're conquering it's you're 0.79

00:03:41.480 under our rule and we have protection there was a the treaty of uh medina the other treaties are 0.59

00:03:46.320 given to the christians and jews that they can live under their rule so this is an absolute

00:03:49.180 nonsense to put fear tactics and the far right use category let's go to the next one see the

00:03:53.260 quran is not just meant to be memorized but it's meant to be memorized and understood so you could

00:03:57.560 connect with the revelation of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala on a deep level that you've never

00:04:01.520 experienced before i have the perfect tool for you the kalam app is a simple app you download

00:04:05.980 on your phone you could learn the classical arabic language and it'll teach you how to pronounce the

00:04:10.240 quran correctly download the kalam app and understand the quran like you've never done 0.90

00:04:14.800 before religion tradition where people are ignorant of the basic tenets of islam of islamic 0.52

00:04:20.180 culture religion tradition customs and norms they are ignorant about what sharia means they're 0.53

00:04:24.220 ignorant about the obligation of jihad and they don't understand what is happening to them and

00:04:28.860 they don't understand what is at risk the short-term problems are easily identifiable it's crime it's 0.95

00:04:34.340 violence it's over dependence on welfare it's welfare states many examples of good integration

00:04:39.560 that gives us hope that with good government policies,

00:04:42.480 people, migrants, Muslims and non-Muslims 1.00

00:04:44.160 can move out of those circles.

00:04:45.600 And we have a lot of good examples

00:04:46.820 around the world of countries to do that.

00:04:48.320 But we also have many.

00:04:49.280 So you can see again,

00:04:49.980 the clear talking points of the far right,

00:04:51.340 immigration, putting fear.

00:04:52.320 And why?

00:04:52.900 Because Israel has clearly, clearly said 0.78

00:04:55.280 that their strategy, because their mask has dropped, 0.68

00:04:57.280 Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Mac and Kelly,

00:04:59.000 and the rest, and one who got,

00:05:00.400 Charlie Cook got anally assassinated,

00:05:02.120 which is very clear.

00:05:03.540 The talking points are very clear to put fear.

00:05:05.240 And if you look into the website,

00:05:08.060 which I'm going to put here,

00:05:08.640 dropside news yes clearly the israelis have said their strategy is what to pump islamophobia which

00:05:14.300 they've already been doing pump islamophobia fear tactics why that's their strategy to move their

00:05:19.160 attention from israel and zionism and what they are doing you can clearly see and there is many

00:05:23.940 examples i can give you and i'm going to give it throughout the first islamic conquest in 7th

00:05:27.060 century onwards when muslims armies conquered the byzantine and the persian territory 7th century

00:05:31.260 jews often were welcomed okay muslims gave them so many rights under muslim protection they had

00:05:35.680 so many rights even the christians under byzantine christian rule jews had suffered persecution

00:05:40.400 expulsion and bans on worship yes in contrast under muslim rule jews were granted vimmi status

00:05:47.180 protected people of the book this allowed them to practice their religion hold communal autonomy

00:05:51.620 and participate in trade through with certain restrictions and taxes but they were not executed 0.99

00:05:59.100 Killed for being a Gentile 1.00

00:06:02.240 An infidel 1.00

00:06:02.780 Okay like the religion says 1.00

00:06:04.220 Muslims based in Al-Andalus

00:06:05.500 In the 8th and 15th centuries

00:06:06.520 When Muslims conquered Spain in 711 0.95

00:06:08.660 Jews were freed from centuries of

00:06:11.200 Visigothic Christian persecution 0.99

00:06:15.300 Jews, florists and Muslims ruled Spain

00:06:17.880 Contributing to science, philosophy, medicine and poetry

00:06:20.540 During the golden age of Jewish culture in Al-Andalus

00:06:23.340 10th and 12th centuries 0.98

00:06:24.700 Their second Moses

00:06:25.860 Marmonides 0.98

00:06:27.120 Yes 0.92

00:06:27.480 Okay, you can see that the positions that the Jews had

00:06:30.620 Even his physician, Saladin Ayyub's physician

00:06:33.500 Was a Jewish man

00:06:34.460 In contrast, when Christian kingdoms reconquered Spain

00:06:38.120 Jews forced conversions, massacres

00:06:40.960 And ultimately in the 1492 explosion from Spain

00:06:43.880 With Ferdinand and Isabel

00:06:45.420 Isabel and Ferdinand

00:06:46.140 Okay, where they were persecuting and punishing the Jews

00:06:50.120 For what? Their belief system

00:06:51.440 So you can see they are afraid 0.91

00:06:52.860 Because Muslims have ruled by justice

00:06:54.720 Let's carry on 1.00

00:06:55.260 Influence of Western politics and so on 0.98

00:06:56.900 So you're trying to keep the Israeli element of this 0.82

00:06:58.840 sort of out of this. 0.98

00:06:59.820 This is more your response

00:07:00.780 to what Jonathan Conricus has said,

00:07:02.460 specific about Islamic infiltration into Western society. 1.00

00:07:05.200 Sure, I mean, I think the first thing 0.99

00:07:06.100 we have to just acknowledge

00:07:06.700 is that he's spoken for about maybe 10 minutes.

00:07:08.100 I don't know how long.

00:07:08.320 Four and a half.

00:07:08.820 All right, four and a half minutes

00:07:09.420 without any interruption, right?

00:07:10.360 So I hope that that will be afforded to me,

00:07:11.800 the same thing that should be afforded to me.

00:07:13.000 The first thing he talks about,

00:07:14.100 jihad and all these kinds of concepts.

00:07:15.160 And I came across a video of his,

00:07:16.200 a very interesting one, with Brendan Weichart,

00:07:18.620 whereby he was speaking on Mario Norfolk's show.

00:07:20.520 And on the 28th minute and the 34th second,

00:07:22.180 he was asked directly whether or not he intends or that he wants civilian targets to be killed

00:07:27.600 directly and he said that's what needs to be done this is exactly his quote that's what needs to be

00:07:31.080 done the question that was posed to him was the question that was posed to him was do you think

00:07:34.220 civilian targets should be um civilians should be targeted he answered that's what needs to be done

00:07:38.380 this is online i've given you the exact time and then he goes on to say war is about breaking the

00:07:41.420 political will of the opponent this is an exact quotation from what he said so for him then to

00:07:45.240 pontificate in a sesquipedalian way about for four and a half minutes islamic jihad and infiltration

00:07:49.440 after essentially saying

00:07:50.500 what amounts to a terroristic phrase

00:07:51.900 that if he was in the UK

00:07:52.680 would actually render him

00:07:54.200 applicable to be arrested in the UK 0.86

00:07:55.920 because he is talking about civilians

00:07:57.240 under the Terrorism Act of 2000

00:07:58.140 under Section 58

00:07:59.120 or many other sections

00:07:59.620 you can make an argument

00:07:59.980 is actually a lovable proposition

00:08:01.240 in the first place.

00:08:01.820 But let's deal with it

00:08:02.240 because here's the thing 0.75

00:08:02.940 he's talking about Islam

00:08:04.060 and he's making a causative argument

00:08:05.300 between the Muslims in the UK

00:08:06.620 and Islam as a way of life. 1.00

00:08:08.500 Well first and foremost

00:08:08.980 Islam has very clear guidelines

00:08:10.480 I can tell you this

00:08:11.140 as someone who has memorized the Quran

00:08:12.140 someone who has gone to

00:08:12.960 the most prestigious

00:08:13.420 Islamic institution in the world

00:08:14.260 and graduated from there

00:08:15.040 so I'm speaking in a place

00:08:15.640 of some authority.

00:08:16.780 The Quran is very clear

00:08:17.720 that we're not allowed

00:08:18.540 to kill civilian life in chapter 5 verse 32 it says that whoever kills a person unless they

00:08:24.980 commit murder or that they've done corruption in the land is like killing all of humanity the 0.80

00:08:27.140 prophet muhammad said then whoever kills a non-believer a non-believer he will not smell 0.70

00:08:32.260 the fragrance of paradise so here what you can see guys clearly okay which is very important as

00:08:35.760 well is that he claims that islam promotes his jihad and this that jihad is a war a just war

00:08:40.660 done to protect civilians etc allah mentions in the quran etc okay so he's conflicted now very

00:08:46.420 simply like muhammad hijab mentioned there okay we have clear guidelines that we cannot harm

00:08:50.460 civilians etc kill innocent people men women and children okay men women and children okay

00:08:55.500 now can he show us in his scripture in the torah the talmud the tanakh whatever it is for that 0.69

00:09:00.460 matter how the goyim should be treated they have clear direct rules of massacre and that's the

00:09:06.860 reason why benjamin nathanao and ben gaviris comes they clearly come and say you know what 0.98

00:09:11.620 some amalek done to you the scripture their scriptures directly order the killing because

00:09:17.160 they believe that if these kids grow up they're going to become hamas or whatever you want to

00:09:21.020 call it okay so they clearly say annihilation that's what they believe in we don't believe in

00:09:26.300 that so clearly here you're missing i think confusing islam with the old testament maybe 0.93

00:09:30.100 you're confusing with first samuels where it says that you have to kill the men the women the children

00:09:32.600 and the donkey as well or maybe you're confusing with deuteronomy 22 or maybe you're confusing it

00:09:35.520 with number 31 i don't know what you're confusing it with but you're certainly not representing

00:09:38.640 islam in the correct manner and you don't find any equivalent challenges since you're making a

00:09:41.100 theological claim you came right into my playing field i challenge you to find anything in the

00:09:43.900 old testament that is remotely remotely as categorical in denying civilian death as you

00:09:48.000 find in the quran that's number one since you want to make a theological case number two now

00:09:50.780 he's trying to link islam with for example he mentioned violence and then he mentioned something

00:09:54.000 about immigrants uh depending on welfare and all these kind of things what's islam got to do with

00:09:56.460 any of that is is there a necessary link between islam and someone being poor for example is that

00:10:00.020 there necessarily i don't understand the argument here where is the tenets of islam jihad is not

00:10:02.660 actually a pillar of islam in the first place there's five pillars of islam if you didn't know 0.66

00:10:04.440 and jihad is not one of them so you're an ignoramus on these matters you shouldn't even be speaking 0.89

00:10:07.520 you said you gotta stick to your lane you didn't even stay on your lane you didn't start speaking 0.88

00:10:09.700 about theology and then you start talking about the muslim brotherhood as if they have a presence

00:10:11.700 here in the uk what i want to know from you is that since you think they do and you're using the 0.71

00:10:14.680 word infiltration i want to know exactly who you're talking about okay this is a very good

00:10:17.540 point here here hijab done a fantastic job because life okay this guy is going to bring something

00:10:21.940 okay the question is asked listen carefully guys it's very very critical what institutions

00:10:26.200 they've infiltrated and give me specific objective factual criterion for what you're talking about

00:10:29.200 since you've made this claim and it's a cause-based argument between the religion itself

00:10:31.860 and the practitioners i'll leave it to you to explain to me exactly what institutions have

00:10:34.960 been infiltrated which by the way the definition of infiltration is to covertly okay covertly

00:10:38.580 influence a group through secretive means. That's the Cambridge definition of infiltration. And

00:10:41.580 you'll find, and we're going to speak about this, that if you think about the Israel lobby, which

00:10:44.360 we'll speak about after this, it fits the definition, I think, much better. But we can

00:10:46.540 speak about that later. I want to know exactly what Muslim brotherhoods you're talking about in

00:10:48.640 England. I want to know what institutions you're talking about. I want to know exactly what you

00:10:50.800 mean by this infiltration. And is this a systemic effort by these people to try and take over the

00:10:54.660 country? And if so, give me the exact data points that you're referring to. Before I go to Jonathan

00:10:57.460 for the answer, just to clarify. And this goes back to their talking point. Like I said before,

00:11:01.100 the strategy is what? Make Islam the enemy. And those days are over. People are seeing right 1.00

00:11:05.820 through except the ignoramus if you are far right okay where is your evidence and this is the 0.99

00:11:11.340 talking point of some monafikeen okay and some of these people in the arab countries who are doing 0.70

00:11:16.320 the exact talking point of zionists it's as if they have gone to the same lessons and they have

00:11:21.400 been told exactly what to say i don't understand this muslim brother who are we talking about i

00:11:25.380 saw a clip of them talking about some kharij that we confronted ourselves if you're talking about 0.55

00:11:29.300 them as muslim brotherhood they're against us okay so the question is what we've exposed them 1.00

00:11:33.240 They've come to me

00:11:33.900 They've given me their friends

00:11:34.600 Okay

00:11:34.840 We've exposed them 0.67

00:11:35.780 And alhamdulillah 1.00

00:11:36.380 Sadly most of them 1.00

00:11:37.500 Have left the religion 1.00

00:11:38.420 Like the Prophet 1.00

00:11:38.840 Mentioned and prophesied

00:11:39.780 About these individuals

00:11:40.300 So we're against them

00:11:41.120 But who are you talking about

00:11:42.260 Now bring evidence

00:11:43.380 Did he bring anything

00:11:44.300 Let's see

00:11:44.680 Yeah not only the UK

00:11:46.660 And I think it's

00:11:47.480 An interesting answer

00:11:48.120 From someone who

00:11:49.060 Clearly has 0.93

00:11:49.980 Clerical and religious 0.79

00:11:51.680 Knowledge

00:11:52.460 The Al-Azhar University

00:11:54.020 Is one of the

00:11:54.760 Driving forces 1.00

00:11:56.140 Of the Muslim Brotherhood 1.00

00:11:57.320 And it's teaching

00:11:57.900 It's a known centre

00:11:59.120 For a very extremist

00:12:00.640 Part of

00:12:01.300 Islamic interpretation

00:12:02.780 That's where many of the world's terrorists and the scholars of al-Qaeda, ISIS, Daesh, Hamas, and many others were given their education, if you'd use that word. 0.94

00:12:12.120 So I'm happy that you mentioned your pedigree and you informed the people that you're on the same boat or in the same boat, the same ideological boat and background as Qardawi and many other extremists. 0.95

00:12:21.500 That indeed, what they aspire to do by their sayings and by their writings and by their actions is world domination. 0.97

00:12:28.200 it is the caliphate it is to take control over first lands that islam conquered violently in 0.99

00:12:34.540 the 7th and 8th century and since then have been lost back to europeans and jews and others christians 0.97

00:12:38.540 and others to first take back those lands and then by force and by other means to take control 0.55

00:12:43.300 over other lands of europe and of the west he did not answer that question hijab asked him very

00:12:48.340 clearly now he's talking about al-hazar that apparently the people of al-qaeda and all these

00:12:51.860 other terrorist groups etc whatever it's for the matter they study al-hazar number one you need to

00:12:54.980 evidence to that and even if you did even if you bought it what does it make like for example what

00:12:58.720 do you define as a terrorist okay terrorism the definition is that somebody who's doing acts of

00:13:02.500 violence for political gains for example george h w bush he studied in yale university george w bush

00:13:08.260 studied in harvard's business school donald trump yes okay pennsylvania pennsylvania walton school

00:13:13.320 okay benjamin netanyahu is studying harvard tony blair studying oxford university these are the 0.58

00:13:18.340 these are terrorists these are state terrorists these are terrorists so are you going to not

00:13:22.200 blame yale yes are you going to blame oxford university are you going to blame these universities

00:13:26.180 and come and say you are producing terrorists no you're not so this argument is very weak very very

00:13:30.160 weak and there you go and i brought you the evidence for that these individuals who are

00:13:33.260 terrorists who've killed millions of people yes any terrorist we condemn them they will not come

00:13:38.680 close to the amount of people they've massacred terrorism is terrorism we are strategic we are

00:13:42.280 morally consistent not strategically don't weasel no listen don't don't weasel out of it now it was

00:13:47.260 very clear what you said it was very clear what you said it was very clear what you are we are

00:13:52.640 speaking now we're speaking to each other it was very clear what you said and people can go to that

00:13:56.800 same youtube video and they can check it out you are encouraging and you are incentivizing this

00:14:02.460 american politician to kill civilians interrupting and we agreed that we wouldn't deny that you're 0.96

00:14:08.040 interrupting you be a man be a man and speak the truth don't be a weasel don't be a coward don't 1.00

00:14:13.680 Don't be a coward. Don't backtrack now. 0.99

00:14:15.560 Why are you backtracking like a puss-alanimous? 0.97

00:14:19.880 He's a real puss-alanimous. 0.99

00:14:21.520 Why are you backtracking like a puss-alanimous? 0.98

00:14:24.840 Why?

00:14:25.140 You are interrupting and we agreed not to interrupt.

00:14:28.660 Let Jonathan answer the question.

00:14:30.300 Yeah, go on.

00:14:31.600 Let's see if you even answer the question.

00:14:33.080 The question, which I think a lot of people

00:14:34.540 want to know the answer to, which is

00:14:36.120 there are estimates that there are

00:14:38.140 80 to 85 informal

00:14:40.560 Sharia councils operating

00:14:42.640 across the UK. These obviously have no legal justification under British law, but you would 1.00

00:14:49.180 accept, I assume, that they can have enormous influence over the local communities in which

00:14:53.620 they operate. I think that these particular councils are completely overestimated, especially

00:14:58.580 by right-wing outlets, because what they really are, the opinions of some people like me, who have

00:15:03.480 essentially come out of universities, and two people will come into those places and say,

00:15:08.140 well, this is what's happened, but this is what's happened, and say, well, you've got the truth on

00:15:11.660 your side you've got the truth on your side people can leave that place agreeing or disagreeing with

00:15:15.940 the person in question it has absolutely no but you understand why a lot of people in the uk feel

00:15:21.820 apprehensive that it's a very short step i mean look here's here goes the argument i mean it's

00:15:27.820 the same with the jewish community though i know but we'll come to that let me just put the same

00:15:31.260 thing let me just put to the argument which is that people say well look we've got all these

00:15:35.280 unofficial sharia call sharia councils that it's as you see the muslim population of the uk and

00:15:42.960 it's happening in the us as well exponentially increasing which it will just on sheer numbers

00:15:48.800 that there will be an increasing influence on the political stratosphere if you like up and down the

00:15:55.200 ladder and as a result of that you may end up this is the fear that people have you may end up with

00:16:01.680 sharia law being pushed to be incorporated into british law now firstly no one's aim and objective

00:16:08.560 is that but even if it was according to democratic values isn't it voting even if that's the case

00:16:13.520 based on voting are you not supposed to say you know that's the democratically selected

00:16:17.120 argument sharia what are you talking about nobody's having an objective to do that but even

00:16:21.600 if that was the case and you're talking about the sharia courts listen man people go to sharia courts

00:16:25.600 having a dispute with their wife or their wife and dispute with them or business transactions

00:16:29.040 well it's just someone they're arbitrating and not only that if you look at the for example the

00:16:33.000 jewish um courses well look you've got london beftin federation beftin uh shepardi beftin

00:16:38.940 i think beftin means a sharia course okay a eunuch of orthodox hebrew congregation beftin

00:16:42.980 manchester beftin leeds beftin okay gatteshad rabbical authority beftin beftin i think if i'm

00:16:48.500 mistaken means okay there's just seven and if you count all of the other smaller ones that you have

00:16:52.740 you've got around 15 yes so if the muslim population is far greater than the jewish

00:16:56.820 community okay if there's 85 it's proportion as you can see they have their courts as well okay 0.99

00:17:01.840 nobody says anything about them could you ever see that happening what is being done in muslim

00:17:08.500 communities maybe to stop that happening well first and foremost um these ideas of sharia courts

00:17:14.320 as i mentioned they have absolutely no legal enforcement power whatsoever so it's just the

00:17:18.300 opinions of people you can have an lgbtq council you can have a feminist council you can and as we

00:17:23.460 do have we have jewish councils so that if the argument is going to be made and here's really

00:17:27.780 what i find quite incredulous if i'm being honest almost every argument you can make about the sharia

00:17:32.660 you can make about the halakha which is the jewish equivalent in fact my argument is in most of those

00:17:37.660 instances when it comes to gender interaction divorce for women where they have to get something 0.60

00:17:41.720 called a get anything which is that that man cannot a woman cannot get divorced without the

00:17:46.300 man's permission in judaism it's even more severe than catholicism that they have those courts in

00:17:52.800 the jewish community so if you want to say that they're not allowed in the muslim communities

00:17:56.480 and you want to have a consistent principle then you have to now start applying that consistent

00:18:00.080 principle to people like you jonathan of course you don't believe in that because you believe in 0.99

00:18:03.360 killing the civilians and you're a coward and a pusillanimous and you now have a forked tongue 0.98

00:18:08.800 on piers morgan's show because when you are on mario naufel's show you're making the argument 0.99

00:18:12.960 with this with this american diplomat when you come on piers morgan's show because you know it's

00:18:16.560 a bigger audience much bigger audience what you're doing is you are putting your tail your micro tail

00:18:22.640 between your knee between your legs and you're scurrying and running running away running away

00:18:26.960 like you did in the first debate with mario no father you are all right let me put a different

00:18:30.480 question another thing you guys need to bear point uh uh know this memorized is that in in

00:18:35.280 the jewish law yes the woman can it's called the get she cannot get to the get if her husband does

00:18:41.280 not divorce her she is staying married to her to him forever in catholicism and christianity

00:18:47.120 you cannot if your husband beats you that's not a reason unless it's adultery that's why you had

00:18:51.040 look that's what you had in barking you know the henry the eighth he used to go and execute his

00:18:56.400 wives so he can get married again because he found the loophole yeah he was like okay listen 0.91

00:18:59.600 i can't divorce them i know i'm just going to behead them okay so you get these talking points 0.80

00:19:03.760 is very very important why because in the jewish law if anything the sharia course actually 0.99

00:19:07.600 facilitate for the men and women as well to get their divorce if they don't want to be a muslim

00:19:11.680 with a muslim with a man who might be abusive or for example do not give her intimate rights

00:19:15.920 basic intimate rights the process said i mentioned this so women have these rights

00:19:18.960 in ironically in christianity and judaism they do not the woman doesn't even have a right to divorce

00:19:23.600 i'm not even going to respond to your yeah you can but also jonathan the question i would put

00:19:27.680 to you is what we're seeing and i think you were at one of these events you're seeing the pro-israeli

00:19:33.680 and what many perceive to be an anti-muslim lobby making allies in the uk with people like tommy

00:19:39.520 robinson and what people think are his thuggish group of supporters i think i'm right in saying

00:19:45.600 you were at one of his rallies. So there is a rising concern, conversely, about that going on

00:19:53.600 in the UK as well. Exactly. So he was at that event. Let's see what he had to say about that.

00:19:57.200 Let's see his assessment of the event. Let's see. And who was funding that? The £100,000

00:20:02.320 cheque he was given to? Mr Tommy Robinson in Epstein Files. Cheap at any price. Cheap at any

00:20:06.960 price. Okay, who is giving this? Okay, he probably went there to assess it, because that's the

00:20:10.720 campaign of making hate campaign. Yes, okay. Bob Shillman, I think it was Robert Shillman,

00:20:14.240 whatever his name i can't remember okay um i'll say this when i walked on the streets of london in

00:20:19.680 the unite the kingdom march what i heard was a lot of patriotic love for england and the uk

00:20:28.320 i didn't hear a lot of hate speech i didn't hear people say bad things about other people

00:20:33.680 yeah bad things about other people you cannot make this stuff up in the bloody event in the 0.99

00:20:36.560 march there were women who dressed up in niqab 0.97

00:20:44.240 there was a guy who was performing with bacon on his shoulders imagine they are there and they

00:20:50.600 were doing the same thing about juice and i came and said yeah i just went to an event it was a

00:20:53.720 patriotic event people cared about i didn't see any hate against towards the juice imagine there

00:20:56.940 and there is hostility towards juice my friend my friend you can clearly see who's funding this

00:21:02.700 he himself was at the event can you imagine you can't make this stuff up okay imagine the same

00:21:06.880 was done about Jews. You showed me a clip of some lady who said things about Islam out of that house

00:21:14.440 and we debated it in studio. I don't think we have to go over it again but I'm happy to do it

00:21:19.460 but I think the bottom line here is and I think that what people around Europe are saying pretty

00:21:26.160 clearly whether it's just two days ago or a day ago in Germany or in continuous elections in the

00:21:32.140 in Scandinavia and in France,

00:21:35.220 in many other places in East Europe,

00:21:37.180 a lot of people are signalling their frustration 1.00

00:21:39.580 with this unchecked and reckless immigration of people

00:21:44.100 who are importing a foreign mindset to Europe. 0.72

00:21:48.040 And I think a lot of people understand...

00:21:49.820 That's interesting, because when it comes to immigration,

00:21:52.180 when Spain, you know,

00:21:54.020 will try to put some kind of sanctions

00:21:55.960 or speak an argument to Israel,

00:21:57.540 for some reason the borders opened up all of a sudden.

00:22:00.020 I wonder who's behind that.

00:22:01.300 if we look at some studies from sisters if you look at some news articles as well uh you know

00:22:06.300 it's very interesting you know recently with the sanctions that uh uk is putting on israel all of

00:22:11.120 a sudden yesterday i landed with my family back from a holiday and we was um re-diverted uh from

00:22:17.140 heathrow to birmingham we had to land in birmingham i wonder who called that caused that cyber attack

00:22:21.920 or the tower you know we're not doing suspicious here but you know israel clearly said that they

00:22:26.660 have got things they're not going to mention they said we've got you know tools and etc

00:22:29.440 I wonder where that cyber attack came from.

00:22:32.080 I wonder who is known to carry out assassinations, Charlie Kirk,

00:22:35.440 these cyber attacks, et cetera, putting stuff in devices,

00:22:38.640 in phones that explode.

00:22:40.340 I wonder who's behind it.

00:22:41.560 I wonder. 0.72

00:22:41.980 Probably Russia, yeah. 0.61

00:22:43.180 It's also an argument. 0.61

00:22:44.060 I'd say that it's more than border-controlled peers.

00:22:47.360 It's the underlying ideology.

00:22:49.600 No, I understand.

00:22:50.360 It's the underlying ideology that you can import people.

00:22:51.840 This comes to my point, though.

00:22:52.840 This comes to my point, which is that I keep hearing

00:22:56.000 from my friends in america who are pumped this narrative all the time that britain is being

00:23:01.040 overrun by muslims they've taken control we're all living in terror of the muslim community and i

00:23:07.920 don't recognize any of that i live this is where piers morgan owns him literally owns him look 0.99

00:23:12.000 with facts because he lives in london in london for most of the year there are millions of muslims

00:23:19.520 in our country and most of them have assimilated extremely well with communities and are not

00:23:26.560 violent jihadists and i certainly don't feel like my country's been overrun by muslims so

00:23:32.080 when you start talking about the ideology jonathan i say well what you're saying is 0.99

00:23:37.600 it is wrong to allow so many muslims to be in the uk for example and to which i say well where's the 1.00

00:23:45.760 evidence that the muslim communities in the uk are causing any more problems than any other 1.00

00:23:52.640 communities exactly where is where is evidence look he's asked about the uh muslim brotherhood

00:23:56.880 nada he's going to be asked evidence this nada okay not only that for example um if you look

00:24:01.840 at assimilation the jews have not assimilated they have their whole separate schools their

00:24:07.280 police force uh they have their own ambulances yes okay they have their own courts they their 0.95

00:24:13.200 They're children at a study table. 1.00

00:24:14.200 Have you ever seen a Jewish, awful Jewish person in your school? 1.00

00:24:18.500 No, you haven't. 1.00

00:24:19.260 You have not.

00:24:20.280 And I'm not saying, look, they have a right to, like, whatever,

00:24:22.320 their belief systems, that's fine.

00:24:24.120 Yes, but if anything, everything you're accusing Islam of, 0.99

00:24:27.260 you do it yourself. 0.84

00:24:28.880 Majority of crime.

00:24:29.800 And what you'll never read on Tommy Robinson's social media 0.94

00:24:33.000 is anything about crimes committed by white Christians.

00:24:37.460 He's making a deliberate decision to only post information 0.98

00:24:42.220 when it's a Muslim offender. 1.00

00:24:44.760 And I think that creates... 1.00

00:24:46.280 And that is one of the reasons why in America 0.95

00:24:48.520 they have this ridiculous view 0.99

00:24:50.400 that we're being overrun by Muslims. 1.00

00:24:52.500 Mohammed. 1.00

00:24:53.040 I just want to make a couple of... 0.76

00:24:54.300 Because you did speak twice, Jonathan.

00:24:56.060 Well, let me Mohammed respond to that.

00:24:57.580 You have spoken twice.

00:24:58.360 On that point, Mohammed, look, the argument,

00:25:00.140 I guess what I just said is,

00:25:01.460 that when you look at it as a proportion...

00:25:03.360 Yeah, of the percentage. 1.00

00:25:03.840 Like Hijab will say, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, 0.98

00:25:05.940 enough, you spoke, enough, you spoke. 0.99

00:25:07.460 Okay, hold on, hold on.

00:25:08.400 Of the Muslim population, 5% of the country is Muslim.

00:25:12.220 in the UK. What do you say to those who say, well, you have a disproportionate amount of offenders

00:25:17.420 in the Muslim community? Yeah, so let's take a look at a couple of things here. The first thing

00:25:21.620 is I asked him to give me evidence that there's systemic infiltration, as he claimed, right?

00:25:26.120 And then he gave me one scanty piece of secondary source material, which is not even evidence.

00:25:31.320 In Sweden, which is a country which is barely recognisable in the grand scheme of things in

00:25:35.560 terms of population, I don't know how many millions there are, 10 million people in Sweden or something

00:25:39.200 like that it's a very small country but comparative to like the US and the UK and etc so that's number

00:25:43.640 one he couldn't even find it if it was so systemic and if it was so obvious and it was glaring

00:25:49.100 then he would have had so many case study examples of the Muslim Brotherhood in the UK and the US

00:25:53.360 and all these groups that is talking about infiltrating in a systemic way the institutions

00:25:57.800 that in fact the pro-israel lobbies are doing overtly they're not doing they're not even hiding

00:26:03.800 at hundreds of millions of pounds in America what are you shaking your head about this is a fact

00:26:08.300 okay exactly this is critical aipac you guys don't even call you do it openly infiltrating

00:26:13.580 these systems okay go and look go to double down news by uh loki look at the infiltration

00:26:20.140 that these guys have every accusation is a confession where is it well who's infiltrated

00:26:25.340 which muslim they deem any muslim is practicing their favorite muslim brotherhood let's just

00:26:29.180 mention that you're the hundreds of millions of hundreds of millions of pounds in uh in primaries

00:26:36.460 and stuff like that that's a fact you can you can argue nonsense that's why i'm trying to

00:26:40.140 shake my head this is a funny okay hold on let me just let me continue none of it is foreign

00:26:44.940 but jonathan let me continue my point because you can come back and respond in kind but let

00:26:49.020 me just finish first the second point that you made was we talked about per capita essentially

00:26:53.980 percentage so let's take a very famous situation grooming gangs okay this is a very famous situation

00:26:59.820 now what is usually presented is what happens in telford or rochdale or one of these places and in

00:27:05.420 those places admittedly there is over representation of pakistani muslims in those cases but when you

00:27:11.980 look at the csa report which is the most authoritative report that was conducted in 2025

00:27:17.100 based on home office data and ons data that report on a percentage basis says that there are 83

00:27:25.340 white people in this country as a percentage and they commit 88 of the sexual the child sexual

00:27:31.420 That is 5% overrepresentation. Yes, 5% overrepresentation. 0.98

00:28:01.420 exploitation offenses. So it's actually not disproportionate. White people are disproportionately

00:28:06.720 represented. Pakistani people are not disproportionately represented on a national

00:28:11.300 basis, on the most used example, which is grooming gangs. Admittedly, once again, I have to be 0.98

00:28:17.720 concessionary here. If you look at prisons, for example, there is an over-representation of

00:28:22.160 Muslims. Why is that? There's an over-representation of blacks. You can say, what, is it because of

00:28:26.760 their skin color? Is there something genetic within them? The reason I propose why there's

00:28:31.080 an over-representation of black people or muslims or pakistanis or somalis or whoever it may be

00:28:35.740 in prisons in the uk is not to do with religion as you're making a course-based argument and has

00:28:40.300 to do with socio-economics when people are poor in a country they are more likely to commit crime

00:28:45.920 so black people from the caribbean for example or muslim people that have been colonized before

00:28:51.520 and they're second generation and they're poor working class people are more likely to commit

00:28:55.720 crimes and therefore more likely to be represented in prisons so exactly so get these numbers in

00:28:59.980 get these numbers because these are very important talking points and you guys play a key role

00:29:03.820 in doing this dawah okay it's not just me mohammed hijab we need you guys to be informed with this

00:29:08.720 and be equipped positions let's move to proposition two yeah israel's influence on western politics 0.78

00:29:14.120 especially u.s foreign policy is now the greatest threat to global stability and must be reversed 0.90

00:29:20.040 as soon as possible mohammed you go first on this yeah absolutely i mean think about what just 0.96

00:29:24.580 happened with iran i mean according to john misham who you've had on your show as well 0.92

00:29:28.840 He is probably one of the most recognized political scientists, scholars in the Western world today.

00:29:36.300 I mean, America signed the surrender document, OK, which is on the 18th of June.

00:29:41.620 And now they've lost the law, the war.

00:29:45.000 They've actually cost the taxpayer, according to Mark Zandi, who's an economist at Moody.

00:29:52.160 he says that the average American household has to pay a thousand dollars per annum to fund this

00:30:00.840 war through groceries and interest rates and other things and through petrol and gasoline so imagine

00:30:06.960 you who have been on the record trying to get people to go to Iran American people white people 0.74

00:30:14.520 to die for you maybe you see them as subhuman I don't know because already you've justified

00:30:19.220 civilian death so maybe you do see them as subhuman i don't know what the situation is you

00:30:22.660 want them to die for you you want them to spend their money for your war which brings about

00:30:29.140 absolutely no benefit whatsoever for the uk for the us or for any of those countries and in fact

00:30:35.940 the major beneficiary is obviously israel good point here and only that one thing maybe he'd

00:30:41.700 have to get a chance to discuss as well the epstein islands not only are you sending the

00:30:46.260 american young white british young white girls and men to die for you you're also sending them in

00:30:52.340 lolita expresses epstein's military express okay uh okay mr epstein and uh gizlane okay her dad who 0.51

00:30:58.340 was uh connected to mosad when he died in the mount of olives he has all the mosad uh you know

00:31:02.420 the the members the high generals came to his burial okay he played a good service you know 0.95

00:31:06.180 subhanallah imagine that subhanallah yes flying over white girls young the ones uh the pedophile 0.90

00:31:11.380 the pedophile islands okay i've seen sitting imagine an imam who has an island and he's got 0.74

00:31:16.020 the quran behind him mine was sitting in front of talmud he has the torah behind him okay clear

00:31:20.980 connections to zionism and he's jewish himself subhanallah okay imagine doing this not only are 0.97

00:31:25.860 they using your little children to go there to use it for pedophile pedophilia et cetera so 0.92

00:31:28.900 they can blackmail the elite that's the reason why we're paying a high cost uh each family in 0.94

00:31:32.740 america is paying thousand dollar extra and not only that they send your servicemen yes to die

00:31:37.700 for israel you're knocked out bro this is exactly what it is and at the same time i'll ask you one

00:31:42.660 question jonathan just to show you this you don't want to have a reciprocal relationship you don't

00:31:48.180 want to have a reciprocal the reason is because 18 service people american service people died

00:31:54.500 for this israeli war that netanyahu is bragging about name me one israeli that has died for an

00:32:02.660 American war. You want to have an asymmetrical, non-reciprocal relationship with the American

00:32:09.320 and British public. Your foreign minister was just saying, threatening the UK, saying that if

00:32:14.780 the UK does this and that with the settlements, that we have tools, they said. They're threatening

00:32:20.140 the UK. They are threatening the US. They're lobbying. They're paying hundreds of millions

00:32:25.760 of dollars to try and get them to go into wars so they can influence politicians undemocratically 0.53

00:32:31.300 in a way that's not in the interest of the populace that's what you call infiltration

00:32:35.900 that is what you call infiltration infiltration is covert they do not overtly forget that they

00:32:40.420 are clearly doing and buying out these people okay buying them out look at an investment invest

00:32:45.700 100 million pounds get back billions pounds billions of pounds directly and they are accusing

00:32:50.020 what muslim brotherhood where are they where to introduce who are they not in the interest of 0.82

00:32:55.140 america not in the interest of europe not in the interest of the united kingdom and kill you want 0.99

00:32:59.480 them to fight on your behalf because you're a coward you run away from things just like you 0.87

00:33:03.380 run away from the debate you only have fights with militia groups which you can't even defeat 0.87

00:33:07.540 because Hamas is still you're still negotiating with them you said you're going to defeat them 0.77

00:33:11.200 three years ago you're still negotiating with them you couldn't even finish them you lost the war 0.95

00:33:15.180 you should be ashamed of yourself you're an embarrassment you're telling these people to 0.93

00:33:19.500 die for you go and you fight yourself you go and fight yourself Israel go boots on the ground 1.00

00:33:24.160 kag island you fight yourself why do you want americans to die for you why are you a coward 1.00

00:33:30.240 you go first you go and fight them first why do you want them to die and you're not dying all right

00:33:35.600 let him let him respond amazing this here is so profound this one of the most strongest points

00:33:40.160 hijab come came with and wallahi the british public the american public watching this

00:33:45.200 it's literally in your face and they are waking up and this is what israel fears

00:33:49.600 they know october 7th changed everything they knew about it netanyahu this this article is coming up

00:33:56.880 that he knew he knew and i have no doubt they knew they said if this happens it will make

00:34:02.800 us good because we can call it the second holocaust etc and then we can carry out our

00:34:06.640 genocide and people will say yeah no problem is justified it backfired on them so badly they used 0.70

00:34:10.720 the hannibal directive to take out their own people to have 100 people they're claiming

00:34:13.840 listen out of them there was those the the hammers uh soldiers who were there okay and on top of

00:34:19.040 that their own people said they were firing at us. They were firing at us. Their Hannibal

00:34:22.480 director is the one that's caused these killings. They keep their own people. 1.00

00:34:25.920 And none of the nonsense that you're trying to rage bait me with is going to work. I've been

00:34:31.360 through more qualified debaters than you, and I'm not even going to respond to it. What I would say

00:34:37.360 is the following. Can you imagine this? Can you imagine this, guys? I'm debating someone, brings

00:34:41.440 facts, studies, mentions all this stuff. And then, and then he says, oh, what's my argument? I'm

00:34:47.680 I'm going to say, you know what, now, I have to pay many higher people than you and better people.

00:34:50.520 I'm not going to answer.

00:34:51.200 What kind of an argument is that? 0.92

00:34:53.320 Israel is a country that first asks its own people to fight, its own service members to fight,

00:34:59.480 and unfortunately has its own civilians exposed.

00:35:01.900 When was the last time an Israeli died for a U.S. war?

00:35:05.420 When was the last time an Israeli died for a U.S. war? 0.99

00:35:08.060 How does he not answer it? 1.00

00:35:08.940 Look, has he answered any question?

00:35:11.080 The allegations that he made, hijab has brought statistics, facts, studies, names, academia.

00:35:16.860 the guy is not answering why in the last round of fighting when iran fired ballistic missiles at

00:35:27.860 israel sadly we had 98 israeli civilians that were killed and one off-duty israeli soldier who

00:35:35.860 was at home so it's it's a very clear situation and unfortunately i can give a lot of examples

00:35:41.780 I'm asking you about American war.

00:35:43.620 Do you understand the question?

00:35:44.900 Where things are very different.

00:35:46.260 Do you understand?

00:35:47.700 I'm trying to make this conversation on Jonathan.

00:35:49.540 I will look, with all your respect, this is going to get bored.

00:35:52.100 He's asking you who, how many of Israeli soldiers died for America?

00:35:56.500 He's not asking who died for your own country.

00:35:58.260 He's asking how many of them died for America?

00:36:01.460 If you just keep talking and not engaging, you're not engaging, you're not tracking,

00:36:05.780 you're not engaging or interacting with any question.

00:36:09.140 you're not you're not interacting with anything i've put on the table even though you're not

00:36:13.060 interacting with anything at all refrain from interrupting you do you want to finish off hurry

00:36:16.820 up because we're getting bored now we're getting bored of this number one if you look at that even 0.94

00:36:21.860 like we say that okay that's that's true there's those serious groups that um rule on the islam 0.99

00:36:26.820 they claim to be we condemn them if you look at the jewish zionists how many of them actually 0.78

00:36:32.100 condemn israel we condemn them from the top down influencers lay muslims imams clerics you name it 1.00

00:36:38.100 We condemn them 1.00

00:36:38.860 How many of them do that?

00:36:39.840 And not only that

00:36:40.280 What do you describe as

00:36:40.960 Prescribed terrorists?

00:36:42.040 Because for example

00:36:43.120 Some people deem Hamas

00:36:44.020 To be freedom fighters

00:36:45.060 Yes?

00:36:46.000 Or the resistance

00:36:46.760 To be freedom fighters 0.99

00:36:47.340 Like China 0.99

00:36:48.160 For example Russia

00:36:49.580 All these other different countries 0.66

00:36:50.460 Who determines that? 0.56

00:36:51.740 And not only that

00:36:52.080 You're giving this

00:36:52.380 What about state terrorism? 1.00

00:36:53.520 You guys are the biggest terrorists 1.00

00:36:54.920 In the West 1.00

00:36:55.940 The massacres that you've done 0.94

00:36:57.340 To Muslims 0.99

00:36:58.500 Vietnam

00:36:59.000 You name it

00:37:00.140 Yes?

00:37:01.040 Who has invaded more countries?

00:37:02.460 Come on

00:37:02.720 You just don't define it as terrorism

00:37:04.920 You justify that

00:37:06.600 When somebody goes

00:37:07.380 And blows themselves up 0.99

00:37:07.940 which is haram, it will take your life.

00:37:10.860 But when somebody drops it from the sky,

00:37:13.220 but when somebody drops it from the sky,

00:37:14.500 that's okay, that's okay, that's the problem too.

00:37:17.160 Let me ask Mohamed this.

00:37:18.220 So the argument that Israel is a threat to peace,

00:37:21.440 the biggest threat to peace,

00:37:22.660 some people on your side of this argument would say,

00:37:26.060 is countered by the fact that the top 10

00:37:28.420 designated terrorist organizations in the world right now 0.91

00:37:32.020 are all Muslim. 0.84

00:37:33.420 ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Taliban, Al-Shabaab,

00:37:37.020 Shabab, Hezbollah, Hamas, Lashkar al-Taibi, Islamic Jihad movement in Palestine, the 0.99

00:37:43.700 Tariq, the Taliban in Pakistan, which prompts the question, why are so many Muslims clearly

00:37:51.480 drawn to terrorism with these groups, do you think?

00:37:55.300 Yeah, but look, again, I'm so sorry, you know, Piers Morgan, he didn't answer those questions

00:37:59.520 and it should stick on him, you know, but here's something critical comes up here.

00:38:02.760 I want you guys to pay close attention.

00:38:03.820 Well, let's start with his non-answer, because I asked him a question, which in the beginning he decided to, for some reason, he's not engaging with any question that I've put to him.

00:38:13.240 I'm engaging with every single question, and people can see this.

00:38:16.740 I asked him, give me an example.

00:38:18.440 We've got 18 people that have died in America, American service people that have died for Israel.

00:38:23.540 Give me an example of one Israeli that has died for an American war, and he went here, there, and there.

00:38:27.540 Okay, well, look, viewers can see.

00:38:29.220 Yeah, they can see that.

00:38:29.860 Viewers can see, so they can also see I've asked you a question.

00:38:32.420 You've asked me a question right now

00:38:33.560 What is the answer to that? 1.00

00:38:35.740 Why are so many Muslims 0.99

00:38:37.120 Gravitating to these groups? 1.00

00:38:39.400 Of course there is an issue 1.00

00:38:40.120 With Islamic terrorism 0.62

00:38:40.980 Exactly 1.00

00:38:41.340 The biggest terrorist in front of you

00:38:43.380 The biggest terrorist in front of you

00:38:44.520 Is because you've drawn an image

00:38:45.500 Of what terrorist

00:38:45.980 Is a big beard

00:38:46.900 With a turban etc 0.97

00:38:48.220 Saying Allah Akbar 0.79

00:38:49.240 You look at someone in a suit

00:38:50.400 And this guy

00:38:51.020 Is the biggest definition of terrorist

00:38:52.100 I mean if someone

00:38:53.900 Is not concessionary

00:38:54.720 With this issue

00:38:55.560 And says that

00:38:56.460 There is something called

00:38:57.260 Radical Islam

00:38:57.840 There are people 1.00

00:38:58.380 Who actually believe

00:38:59.080 In killing civilians

00:38:59.780 There are people

00:39:00.240 Who believe in these kinds of things

00:39:01.340 then they would be obviously trying to fool the public we're not trying to fool the public but

00:39:05.540 the designation of terrorist groups would fall into the legalistic fallacy i mean just because

00:39:09.980 the west designates a certain group as a terrorist organization in those cases i don't have a problem

00:39:14.660 with that but it doesn't do so okay with other groups like for example israel this man here who

00:39:20.720 i'm speaking to who's a spokesperson or a former spokesperson for the idf literally and he's trying

00:39:26.180 to run away from it was justifying the targeting of civilians to the point where the interlocutor

00:39:32.640 was astounded with what he was saying. Exactly, exactly. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. It's not

00:39:38.400 speaking to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Yes. The leader of ISIS. Yes. He's a terrorist. This

00:39:42.460 guy's a terrorist. Okay. What do I say to that? Hang on a second. Hang on. I know. I know 0.98

00:39:49.420 what you're going to say, which is the idea to not deliberately target civilians. We've

00:39:52.880 had that debate. He was saying that you should, he was telling the Americans should target

00:39:56.600 some video. That's not the point I'm going to make. The point I'm going to make is we've literally

00:39:59.780 just had the American ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, categorize some Israeli settlers

00:40:07.240 as terrorists for what they're doing on the West Bank. Now, Danny Danon, Jonathan, who I interviewed

00:40:13.220 earlier, the Israeli ambassador to UN, he denied that categorization. He said that is not right,

00:40:20.460 it's wrong and not terrorist what would you say he's a terrorist himself why is he not a terrorist

00:40:29.340 why is he not a terrorist i want to ask yeah people's going to make a good point here but

00:40:32.700 but why is he after he makes a good point not this one why is he not a terrorist why because

00:40:37.580 he is your ally because he wears a suit he speaks english why is he not a terrorist

00:40:41.420 He's an extremist himself. He's a radical. 0.53

00:40:44.280 Jonathan's not a terrorist.

00:40:45.700 Well, there you go. 0.87

00:40:48.100 Wait a minute, Mohamed. 1.00

00:40:50.000 I ask you in the context of you making a concession

00:40:52.860 that you believe there are a number of terrorist Islamist organisations.

00:40:58.480 So you've made that concession.

00:41:00.000 My question for you, Jonathan, is in light of what Huckabee said,

00:41:03.500 do you accept that there are Israeli terrorists? 1.00

00:41:08.000 Very clearly so. 0.86

00:41:09.160 and i've said it long before our good friend huckabee said so and you know you call a spade

00:41:15.880 a spade the behavior of some a small group of people in judea and samaria is despicable

00:41:23.640 condemnable shouldn't be allowed should be dealt with in a much more effective way by israeli

00:41:29.640 authorities is not representative of the overwhelming majority of israelis who live

00:41:35.560 in judea and samaria interesting the case closed the same thing applies to islam same thing applies

00:41:41.160 to christianity judaism hinduism buddhism uh you name it the case closed so what your point of

00:41:48.520 do they make the majority no they don't there are 0.001 so case closed you just admitted yourself

00:41:54.520 that if this doesn't represent the israelis and etc which overwhelmingly your country people

00:41:59.400 Zionists overwhelmingly supported the the genocide that's carried out and very simply put these are

00:42:05.880 people that are acting outside the law and I think they should face the consequences of the law and 1.00

00:42:11.000 they shouldn't be allowed to do what they're doing and what about people like okay but what I know by

00:42:15.400 the way it's an important uh thing you've just said and perfect listen carefully guys very key

00:42:19.800 listen carefully I think that both of you have made consensus which I think viewers will look

00:42:23.800 at it and go good all right we're getting somewhere in this debate we're getting some

00:42:27.720 intellectual honesty let me ask you Jonathan my question is this though the minister of national

00:42:33.900 security in Israel Ben Gavir criticized Israel's recent drawdown of strikes in Gaza by saying

00:42:40.120 I think targeted assassinations should be carried out in Gaza taking down 30 to 40 every night not

00:42:47.120 just those who pose an immediate threat there are people there who are not worthy of life

00:42:51.560 they shouldn't live they're not even people he has he has the same view I'm asking the question

00:42:55.940 He has the same view.

00:42:56.500 I'm asking the question.

00:42:57.200 He has the same view.

00:42:57.840 Look, that's what makes him a terrorist. 1.00

00:42:58.960 He has the same damn view. 0.99

00:43:00.220 He has the same damn view, but he cannot say this, like Hijab said. 0.99

00:43:02.400 In the podcast, he was comfortable about this. 0.98

00:43:03.740 Many people are watching.

00:43:04.780 Yes?

00:43:05.120 Okay, so they're very strategic.

00:43:06.340 Question.

00:43:07.180 Is that the language of a terrorist?

00:43:11.960 I'll say this. 0.94

00:43:13.420 First of all, we can see what Israel does.

00:43:15.580 It does not conduct targeted...

00:43:18.760 That wasn't my question.

00:43:20.540 Exactly.

00:43:21.160 That was his question.

00:43:21.840 Thank God, Piers.

00:43:22.720 You don't sound good.

00:43:23.340 But it's an important part to recognise the big difference.

00:43:27.220 It's what he wants to do, and he is the national security minister.

00:43:30.160 Between talk.

00:43:31.460 This is the national security minister. Can you imagine this?

00:43:33.040 The national security minister.

00:43:33.860 Of a politician that is, in my mind.

00:43:36.080 But is it the language of a terrorist, Jonathan?

00:43:38.660 No, it is reckless. It is ignorant. 1.00

00:43:43.620 It's not terrorist. Look, look, look. It's reckless. It's foolish. It's dumb. 0.99

00:43:47.300 It's ignorant. It's stupid. And it's not terrorist. 1.00

00:43:48.880 OK, no problem. Let's kind of watch this now.

00:43:50.180 think um not not really conducive to winning the war if a palestinian it's exactly if a palestinian 0.95

00:43:57.780 politician said that about israelis i think you would frame it as terrorism yeah i think you would

00:44:02.260 if no he goes if if he said if he said no no if they do they do so your point is what oh this is 0.99

00:44:08.500 you're so stupid so he's saying not if is they do it so he's having a go at piers mogul saying 0.97

00:44:14.340 don't say if they do do it so it is terrorism but when ben gavir does it it's not terrorism 1.00

00:44:19.620 It's stupid, it's ignorant, it should not do that 1.00

00:44:21.580 They say it every day and night 1.00

00:44:23.640 They say that they will do October 7

00:44:25.460 Again and again and again

00:44:27.440 But my point is

00:44:28.300 My point is though, if he is right 1.00

00:44:30.720 This guy is so stupid, he doesn't understand, he's actually shooting himself in the foot 1.00

00:44:32.900 He says, okay, now watch this 1.00

00:44:34.040 Rather like with Danny Danon

00:44:36.340 Who tried to draw a distinction 0.92

00:44:37.940 Between what Palestinians do on the West Bank 0.77

00:44:40.480 To Israelis, and what Israelis do to Palestinians

00:44:42.860 One is terrorism, one is not

00:44:44.700 I think again, you're trying to make

00:44:46.780 This distinction, and viewers will be like

00:44:48.120 well, how can it be any different? No, I'm not making that distinction. And I think I was pretty

00:44:53.320 clear with my answer, the first answer, where I draw a very clear and distinguishable line

00:44:58.520 between what is unlawful, vigilante, and in some cases, terrorist behavior, and the fighting done

00:45:07.780 by the state of Israel against an internationally recognized terror organization, which is Hamas,

00:45:13.120 which you just pointed out. And it's interesting to mention, you know, you said all of the

00:45:17.860 the long list of some of the Muslim terrorist organizations that exist and have been blacklisted.

00:45:24.740 There are, of course, many, many others just in Gaza. There are many others and in Judea and Samaria

00:45:29.780 and in Syria and Lebanon and in Yemen and in Iraq and many other places. It's full of extremists.

00:45:37.220 There you go. Well, because the Muslim population is great, we're going to have more of those. 1.00

00:45:42.660 What's your point? The same thing stands, the same principle stands. You have them,

00:45:46.180 you're a small number, you have it, we call them out, we tackle them, and when you ask the question 1.00

00:45:52.580 of why do so many of these, why are all of these organizations Muslim? It is because in part, 0.99

00:45:58.660 they are implementing the obligation of jihad. They are interpreting their religious teachings 0.94

00:46:06.820 and they say, well, if we are obliged to conduct jihad, and yes, there are different types of jihad,

00:46:12.740 their spiritual jihad etc etc but these lot these people are interpreting and saying i'm going to do

00:46:19.780 the very literary understanding of jihad which is holy war against infidels and against people

00:46:26.020 who think different than me and i will show no mercy not to civilians not to women anybody who 0.62

00:46:32.020 is a non-believer a kuffar doesn't have the said that nowhere in islam it says that you can kill 0.74

00:46:37.860 in this amendment with children rather in the book of numbers Deuteronomy Samuel it clearly says that 1.00

00:46:42.580 you can take these people out look at the Tanakh yes look at their laws of Goyim they don't see 0.98

00:46:49.540 Goyim as human beings as animals right to live and we shall strike them down and if someone agrees to 0.98

00:46:56.580 subjugate and become a second-class citizen under Islam then we can allow him to live how benign 1.00

00:47:03.380 that is the isis ideology and by the way coming back full circle to how we start okay so firstly 0.99

00:47:10.020 islam says go after them the kufar infidel but then there's a secondary option of them paying 0.94

00:47:14.260 jizya and living under so one second do we do we does this time say we should get rid of them men 1.00

00:47:17.220 women children but then there's an option that if they pay uh jizya yes which is much better than the 0.91

00:47:22.500 50 plus taxes i pay in the uk okay paying one denier here okay and you have so much more rights 0.90

00:47:28.500 but he says so are we supposed to kill them or not kill them was it you can see the contradictory

00:47:32.340 Guys, I think this was fantastic. 1.00

00:47:33.460 Hijab absolutely annihilated him. 0.99

00:47:34.360 And I think a lot of British public, the Westerners, 0.92

00:47:35.680 have woken up to the reality of what Zionism is doing. 0.92

00:47:38.480 And not only that, now sanctions are being done by our government, 0.84

00:47:42.620 very surprisingly, subhanAllah. 1.00

00:47:44.240 And they are not liking it. 1.00

00:47:45.340 And I genuinely believe they are going to be plotting it.

00:47:48.060 And they have said it clearly.

00:47:49.260 They're coming after Britain. 0.69

00:47:50.580 Yes?

00:47:51.020 Like when they slapped, literally slapped his head,

00:47:55.020 Toy Roberts' head. 1.00

00:47:55.960 Okay, there's a special place in hell for the Brits. 0.99

00:47:58.780 You can't make this up. 0.99

00:47:59.480 Alhamdulillah, the mask has dropped.

00:48:01.000 Like Allah says.

00:48:01.560 And that's what I say, guys.

00:48:02.340 What happened in Gaza genocide

00:48:04.580 It's horrific 1.00

00:48:05.420 And their places

00:48:06.560 InshaAllah 0.96

00:48:06.940 Martyrs 0.91

00:48:07.480 Jannah

00:48:07.780 That there

00:48:09.080 That situation

00:48:10.080 That happened

00:48:10.580 The attack that happened

00:48:11.580 Changed everything

00:48:13.000 The whole world is woken up

00:48:14.540 Okay

00:48:14.780 We are consistent

00:48:16.100 We condemn anyone

00:48:17.620 That kills civilians 1.00

00:48:18.300 I don't care if it's Hamas 0.99

00:48:19.200 Al-Qaeda 0.76

00:48:19.700 America 0.86

00:48:20.600 US 0.82

00:48:21.300 Israel

00:48:22.020 Whatever it is 1.00

00:48:22.560 We condemn them

00:48:24.180 Because to us

00:48:24.840 In civilian life

00:48:25.520 It's a civilian life

00:48:26.100 For them it's not

00:48:26.940 Until next time

00:48:27.980 Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

00:48:29.160 That's a bit of a highlight

00:48:30.520 InshaAllah for you guys

00:48:31.280 Goodbye

00:48:32.340 Thank you.

Ali Dawah - September 09, 2026

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