Ali Dawah - August 16, 2018


REACTING TO HILARIOUS FAKE EX MUSLIM STORY


Episode Stats

Length

24 minutes

Words per Minute

200.49843

Word Count

4,988

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

91


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the story of a Christian who claims that he converted from Islam to Christianity and left the fold of Islam for Christianity. Is this true or false? What is the truth behind this story and what are the benefits from it?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Asalaamu Alaikum
00:00:30.000 Brothers and sisters and dear friends
00:00:32.440 Before I start I want to praise Allah
00:00:33.640 The most merciful, the most just
00:00:35.480 Or praise His glory and gratitude
00:00:36.760 Belong to Him for the works that we do
00:00:38.160 We're in the house again
00:00:39.480 An environment where we
00:00:40.680 Have a nice mellow discussion
00:00:42.520 A calm discussion
00:00:43.440 This is mainly dedicated for our youngsters
00:00:45.540 Or the elders who are young at heart
00:00:47.840 Who are watching this as well
00:00:48.580 InshaAllah you are welcome to this house
00:00:49.800 InshaAllah we will be discussing
00:00:51.080 We're both the hosts
00:00:52.900 This doesn't belong to this
00:00:53.800 No no I'm the host
00:00:55.240 You're going to be there
00:00:56.300 Don't talk like that to me
00:00:57.080 No no no I'm the host
00:00:58.260 And where's the coffee
00:01:00.260 So we've got Mohammed Hijab
00:01:03.640 May Allah bless him inshaAllah
00:01:04.400 Is that your left hand?
00:01:05.240 Put that away
00:01:05.700 It's your right hand
00:01:06.180 Please sometimes you need
00:01:07.780 Knowledge to correct people
00:01:08.600 Who you do not know much
00:01:09.520 Anyways
00:01:10.480 Anyway so cutting the jokes
00:01:13.680 To a side
00:01:15.100 Yesterday actually
00:01:16.260 I messaged Mohammed
00:01:17.480 At I think midnight
00:01:18.720 I just came across this video
00:01:20.240 Funnily enough
00:01:21.220 I saw a picture of this person
00:01:22.780 And it looked very very familiar
00:01:25.020 To a brother that we know in the park
00:01:26.300 And it said
00:01:27.240 Why I converted to Christianity
00:01:29.760 And left Islam
00:01:30.440 And I was like
00:01:30.860 Whoa
00:01:31.140 I know this brother yeah
00:01:32.540 What's going on?
00:01:33.800 And it probably looks like him
00:01:34.660 Until I clicked the video
00:01:35.440 And I realised
00:01:36.020 That's not the brother
00:01:37.040 This is a person who is in America
00:01:38.580 Who claims
00:01:40.640 That he has left the fold of Islam
00:01:42.740 For Christianity
00:01:43.600 So what we're going to do
00:01:45.200 Is we're just going to watch it
00:01:45.860 React to it
00:01:46.500 And see what we can derive
00:01:47.400 From this
00:01:47.920 Because I think there's a lot of benefits
00:01:48.780 From this
00:01:49.140 Are you ready?
00:01:50.200 Okay brother and sister
00:01:51.300 Are you guys ready?
00:01:51.800 Let's go inshallah
00:01:52.320 Okay guys
00:01:55.700 Before the video starts
00:01:56.520 I did a bit of research
00:01:57.360 On this guy
00:01:57.880 So now
00:01:58.940 As you know
00:01:59.400 A lot of people
00:01:59.860 Lie
00:02:00.700 And there's this new trend
00:02:01.500 Of I'm an ex-Muslim
00:02:02.300 Kind of thing going on
00:02:03.100 So I asked this guy
00:02:04.500 I asked him
00:02:05.280 I said six prayers
00:02:06.960 Just to see if he knows it
00:02:07.740 So he came with a five
00:02:08.840 So as you can see here
00:02:09.840 Fajr
00:02:10.580 Dawn
00:02:11.420 Duhur
00:02:11.900 Noon
00:02:12.360 And then I asked him
00:02:14.220 About six pillars of Iman
00:02:15.500 Which he didn't know
00:02:16.180 Which is a bit odd
00:02:17.400 I asked if I can
00:02:19.080 Call him
00:02:19.920 He said
00:02:21.600 I'm good dude
00:02:22.100 I'm not here to entertain
00:02:22.800 The questions
00:02:23.140 I was skeptic
00:02:23.700 No problem
00:02:24.660 So I thought
00:02:25.460 Interesting
00:02:26.120 Okay here we go
00:02:26.840 He's put this really nice
00:02:28.540 And tidy
00:02:28.900 And it was very fast
00:02:30.160 The way he replied as well
00:02:31.000 So I thought
00:02:31.660 He's maybe on his prayers
00:02:32.600 He takes them very seriously
00:02:33.460 When he's a Muslim
00:02:33.980 So I went to Google
00:02:35.220 And typed
00:02:37.120 Five prayers
00:02:38.460 Of Islam
00:02:39.540 In English
00:02:40.100 And guess what
00:02:42.640 Check this out guys
00:02:44.000 So as you can see
00:02:46.260 Fajr
00:02:46.720 Duhun
00:02:47.300 Duhur
00:02:48.480 The noon
00:02:49.760 Asr
00:02:51.340 The afternoon
00:02:52.260 Maghrib
00:02:53.280 The sunset
00:02:54.040 Isha
00:02:54.620 Look at that
00:02:55.840 Even the comma there
00:02:56.800 Mashallah
00:02:57.340 Look at that
00:02:58.000 Now
00:02:58.980 We can watch the video
00:03:00.900 Now
00:03:01.240 And also find out
00:03:02.220 For ourself
00:03:03.020 If this story
00:03:04.340 Adds up
00:03:05.020 Yo what's good y'all
00:03:06.280 Thanks for tuning in
00:03:07.400 I'm Cyrus Speaks
00:03:08.320 And this is my testimony
00:03:10.020 As to how I converted
00:03:11.320 From Islam
00:03:12.240 To Christianity
00:03:13.440 So I know it's crazy
00:03:14.540 So I know it's crazy
00:03:14.560 Because a lot of people
00:03:15.460 That follow me
00:03:16.400 You know
00:03:16.940 Did not know
00:03:17.540 That I used to be a Muslim
00:03:18.360 Actually many of y'all
00:03:19.640 Who've been friends with me
00:03:20.520 For years even
00:03:21.480 Did not know
00:03:22.600 That I converted
00:03:23.960 To Christianity
00:03:24.920 So I thought it would be good
00:03:25.960 If I made a video
00:03:27.020 Giving my testimony
00:03:28.180 Explaining
00:03:28.860 How Jesus saved me
00:03:30.480 From Islam
00:03:31.600 And also
00:03:32.640 Why I have
00:03:33.860 Decided to continue
00:03:34.960 In Christianity
00:03:36.000 And in this faith
00:03:36.900 Okay
00:03:37.560 So basically
00:03:38.180 The first thing first
00:03:39.100 Is that he claims
00:03:43.000 That
00:03:43.740 Nobody knew this before
00:03:45.640 Yeah
00:03:45.900 So this is something
00:03:46.620 That's coming out
00:03:47.080 With new year
00:03:47.520 And funnily enough
00:03:48.720 I did a bit of research
00:03:50.320 On him
00:03:50.680 And I went to his Instagram
00:03:51.600 And I followed his
00:03:52.700 I looked at his post
00:03:53.420 From 2014
00:03:54.140 15
00:03:54.680 16
00:03:55.120 17
00:03:55.540 18
00:03:55.860 Why
00:03:56.240 I'll tell you why
00:03:58.280 I'll tell you why
00:03:58.660 I'll tell you why
00:03:59.760 I'm not trying to
00:04:01.880 Prejudge
00:04:02.280 But there's this thing
00:04:03.120 That evangelical Christians use
00:04:04.900 This is actually taught to them
00:04:05.880 And I will play a little clip
00:04:06.880 Of a well known
00:04:08.160 Islamophobe Christian
00:04:09.940 Speaker
00:04:11.240 Who's Jay Smith
00:04:11.940 He actually said this
00:04:12.920 That they were taught
00:04:14.240 To pretend that they were Muslims
00:04:16.220 Didn't he go to like
00:04:17.100 An African country
00:04:17.920 Yes yes yes
00:04:18.520 They actually pretended
00:04:19.580 And this has happened with
00:04:20.420 Some YouTubers as well
00:04:21.280 Pretending to be a Muslim
00:04:22.340 This is a part of their curriculum
00:04:23.960 If you can say
00:04:24.540 That they have to
00:04:25.860 Go inside the community
00:04:27.040 Know
00:04:27.680 Learn
00:04:28.140 And pretend that they left
00:04:29.440 The fold of Islam
00:04:30.120 Now what's funny with this chap
00:04:32.000 Is that basically
00:04:32.720 Like you know
00:04:34.880 What's funny with this
00:04:35.580 Is because I checked his Instagram
00:04:36.740 In 2014
00:04:38.320 He's a hardcore Christian
00:04:39.540 Like he's in the front line
00:04:41.180 2015
00:04:42.220 He's still going hard
00:04:43.260 16, 17, 18
00:04:44.600 He's just full on
00:04:45.520 He's doing these concerts
00:04:46.520 And things
00:04:46.860 So what came to my mind
00:04:48.260 Was at what part
00:04:49.120 Did you become a Muslim
00:04:50.080 Maybe 2012 brother
00:04:51.140 Let's keep listening
00:04:51.940 But anyway
00:04:52.700 So let's just
00:04:53.900 Let's just watch it
00:04:55.300 As a young boy
00:04:57.340 In elementary school
00:04:58.380 I took it upon myself
00:05:00.060 To start to learn
00:05:01.560 And research
00:05:02.180 As much as I could
00:05:03.320 About other religions
00:05:04.120 I was very interested
00:05:05.300 Very curious
00:05:06.160 Being absent of faith
00:05:07.660 I decided to start
00:05:08.940 Reading these different books
00:05:09.940 And then reading
00:05:10.660 These different books
00:05:11.420 From Judaism
00:05:13.380 To atheism
00:05:14.660 Christianity
00:05:15.620 Islam
00:05:16.600 The list goes on
00:05:17.540 And on and on
00:05:18.200 I ended up
00:05:19.840 Coming upon Islam
00:05:21.300 And to me
00:05:22.140 Islam made sense
00:05:23.360 It made sense to me
00:05:24.860 Because ultimately
00:05:26.740 Islam teaches
00:05:28.200 That you can get to heaven
00:05:30.100 Based off of
00:05:31.320 Your good works
00:05:32.080 And good deeds
00:05:32.640 Islam says
00:05:33.700 You have to do
00:05:35.460 Whereas Christianity says
00:05:37.900 Christ has done
00:05:39.680 Is that true?
00:05:41.000 There's some degree
00:05:41.680 Of truth in that
00:05:42.400 Obviously
00:05:43.440 There's two things
00:05:44.860 You have to understand
00:05:45.460 The Quran says
00:05:46.200 This is the Jannah
00:05:52.700 That you inherited
00:05:54.600 Because of what you did
00:05:55.760 But at the same time
00:05:57.720 We do believe
00:05:58.360 That the Prophet Muhammad
00:05:59.500 Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam
00:05:59.820 Himself said
00:06:00.600 That actually
00:06:01.820 Jannah is obtained
00:06:02.760 Through the mercy
00:06:03.340 Of Allah
00:06:03.760 So whereas
00:06:05.280 We do believe
00:06:06.260 That actions
00:06:08.280 Have a big part
00:06:09.240 To play
00:06:09.660 In reaching Jannah
00:06:11.380 We ultimately say
00:06:12.520 That it's from
00:06:13.040 The mercy of Allah
00:06:13.820 What's interesting
00:06:15.540 In Christianity
00:06:15.960 They have something
00:06:16.420 Called
00:06:16.640 Sola Fide
00:06:17.260 Sola Fide
00:06:18.900 Is the idea
00:06:19.560 That so long
00:06:20.280 As you believe
00:06:20.980 And by the way
00:06:22.060 This is exclusive
00:06:23.780 To Protestantism
00:06:25.060 Sola Fide
00:06:26.300 Is the idea
00:06:26.920 That so long
00:06:27.680 As you believe
00:06:28.820 That Christ
00:06:30.180 Has died for your sins
00:06:31.380 Then almost
00:06:33.040 You could say
00:06:33.780 That's what's required
00:06:35.140 So it's your belief
00:06:36.760 That's required
00:06:38.260 And in Islam
00:06:38.940 We had a group
00:06:39.500 Very similar to this
00:06:40.360 Called the Murgia
00:06:41.040 Who actually said
00:06:43.180 That the belief
00:06:44.140 Was the most important thing
00:06:47.180 And all the actions
00:06:48.160 Are not actually important
00:06:49.020 Whatsoever
00:06:49.640 So there is some degree
00:06:50.760 Of truth in that
00:06:51.920 But generally speaking
00:06:53.660 Muslims do believe
00:06:54.340 In individual responsibility
00:06:55.520 So to reconcile that
00:06:56.700 Because there is a hadith
00:06:57.280 Of the Prophet
00:06:57.680 Who said that
00:06:58.920 A man will come
00:06:59.460 On the day of judgment
00:07:00.140 And he would say to Allah
00:07:02.520 Oh Allah
00:07:02.880 I want to enter paradise
00:07:03.680 With my good deeds
00:07:04.400 So Allah takes
00:07:05.440 If I'm not mistaken
00:07:06.380 His eye
00:07:06.900 And weighs it on the scales
00:07:07.860 And his good deeds
00:07:08.860 And it's just to give him
00:07:10.380 A message
00:07:11.220 That basically
00:07:11.980 You cannot
00:07:12.940 The good deeds that you do
00:07:14.200 It cannot even equate
00:07:15.680 To the eye
00:07:16.360 The blessing of the eye
00:07:17.180 That you can see with
00:07:17.940 So at this moment
00:07:19.060 The man said
00:07:19.520 Look Allah
00:07:20.020 Enter me to paradise
00:07:21.320 With your mercy
00:07:21.880 So to reconcile that
00:07:23.720 Just because Allah's mercy
00:07:24.840 Is there
00:07:25.140 Does not mean
00:07:25.660 We do not put actions
00:07:26.500 Forward to work
00:07:27.340 Yeah and this is a criticism
00:07:28.520 Of Christianity in a sense
00:07:29.460 Because Christianity says that
00:07:31.100 Adam came
00:07:32.080 As a result of his sin
00:07:34.000 You have original sin
00:07:34.960 And then Jesus came
00:07:36.580 And now he got rid of that sin
00:07:38.940 So a human being becomes
00:07:40.680 Devoid of individual responsibility
00:07:42.940 Because it's almost as if
00:07:44.060 One person gives him a sin
00:07:45.860 Another person takes that sin away
00:07:48.220 All he has to do is believe
00:07:49.140 In the story
00:07:49.940 Exactly
00:07:50.240 And that's the reason why
00:07:51.180 Sadly today
00:07:51.860 For example
00:07:52.460 You have some Christians
00:07:53.900 Or a lot of Christians
00:07:54.880 Who go down the route
00:07:56.160 Of doing certain things
00:07:57.660 That are wrong
00:07:58.240 And they say
00:07:58.640 Look Jesus died for my sins
00:07:59.720 And one of the things
00:08:00.660 That we use in Islam
00:08:01.340 Just to move forward
00:08:01.980 Is that in Islam
00:08:03.720 We believe Allah
00:08:05.020 Is the most merciful
00:08:05.620 He's the most loving
00:08:07.060 And just
00:08:07.880 So we believe
00:08:09.460 That mercy and love
00:08:10.460 If we understand
00:08:11.200 What that means
00:08:11.800 That means that
00:08:12.800 Allah tells us
00:08:13.520 That oh son of Adam
00:08:14.420 The prophet
00:08:15.200 Told us
00:08:16.320 That Allah said
00:08:17.360 If your sins reach
00:08:18.460 The heavens and the skies
00:08:19.400 I will forgive you
00:08:20.260 As long as you do not
00:08:21.080 Worship partners with me
00:08:21.940 So Allah is saying
00:08:23.180 All I require from the sinner
00:08:24.600 Is for him to repent
00:08:25.640 To acknowledge that
00:08:26.260 He has a law
00:08:26.700 That's all forgiven
00:08:27.360 And turn to me
00:08:28.600 However in Christianity
00:08:30.200 What is required
00:08:31.640 And a lot of Christians
00:08:32.160 Say to this
00:08:32.600 A blood sacrifice
00:08:33.920 Is required
00:08:34.580 So what we say
00:08:35.700 Is that
00:08:36.080 If a God is really
00:08:37.100 Because they talk about
00:08:37.840 God is love and mercy
00:08:38.700 God is love and mercy
00:08:40.580 We need to understand
00:08:41.560 That if God is really
00:08:42.400 Love and mercy
00:08:42.980 He will choose
00:08:43.560 The innocent person
00:08:44.380 To die
00:08:44.920 His own son
00:08:45.420 To be blood
00:08:45.920 Not only that
00:08:46.660 Sacrifice blood
00:08:47.560 They say we need blood
00:08:48.480 And we're like
00:08:48.900 Whoa
00:08:49.140 God can forgive
00:08:50.200 Moving forward
00:08:51.100 On our behalf
00:08:52.440 So to me
00:08:54.080 Islam made sense
00:08:55.180 Islam says
00:08:55.840 You are not born into sin
00:08:57.420 It says you become a sinner
00:08:58.980 I was living with my mother
00:09:00.560 And my stepfather
00:09:01.460 It caused so much friction
00:09:02.840 In the household
00:09:03.520 Because they were Christians
00:09:04.580 And I disagreed with Christianity
00:09:06.060 It caused a lot of conflict
00:09:07.860 And I actually moved out
00:09:09.700 To live with my eldest sister
00:09:12.160 And her husband
00:09:13.160 And they were Muslims
00:09:14.780 So
00:09:15.060 Okay so this is something
00:09:16.040 Similar to what I personally
00:09:16.940 Went through as well
00:09:17.460 When I came to Islam
00:09:18.200 My dad had a big problem
00:09:19.480 With it
00:09:19.760 That I had to leave
00:09:20.680 And you know
00:09:21.500 A lot of brothers told me
00:09:22.200 So I relate with
00:09:22.900 Where it was coming from
00:09:23.620 If this really happened
00:09:24.980 Fast forward a few years later
00:09:26.920 I'm living with my sister
00:09:28.040 And her husband
00:09:28.720 And I'm in school
00:09:31.040 And literally
00:09:31.920 It is the last day of school
00:09:33.660 This school was out
00:09:34.700 And I ended up getting
00:09:36.400 I ended up getting into a fight
00:09:37.880 I actually got jumped
00:09:38.900 So after I got jumped
00:09:40.040 I went home
00:09:41.220 To call some friends of mine
00:09:43.160 My eldest sister
00:09:44.060 She saw me calling my homies
00:09:45.820 And she knew
00:09:46.340 It was about to be some drama
00:09:47.340 So she's telling me
00:09:48.920 You ain't about to bring
00:09:49.680 No drama to my house
00:09:51.120 I ain't about to have
00:09:52.280 No hood dudes in my house
00:09:53.920 Trying to make stuff pop off
00:09:55.360 Literally while we're arguing
00:09:57.160 A knock comes at the door
00:09:59.080 We open the door
00:10:01.260 And what do you know
00:10:02.720 It's this white Christian dude
00:10:05.140 At the door
00:10:05.760 And I say that
00:10:07.260 Because at the time
00:10:08.100 I was really dealing
00:10:08.960 With racism as well
00:10:10.060 So my sister decides
00:10:11.500 To invite him in
00:10:12.600 I don't know why
00:10:13.480 She's a Muslim
00:10:14.260 I'm a Muslim
00:10:14.940 We don't like Christians
00:10:16.020 Whatever
00:10:16.700 But she invites him in
00:10:17.760 Whoa
00:10:18.280 Hold on a second there
00:10:19.380 He says
00:10:20.100 She's a Muslim
00:10:20.920 Her sister
00:10:21.480 I'm a Muslim
00:10:22.680 And we don't like Christians
00:10:24.360 Just in a nutshell
00:10:27.140 Are we taught
00:10:28.040 Like to have hatred
00:10:29.840 Maybe it's just his experience
00:10:31.120 I don't think
00:10:31.660 He made the claim
00:10:32.580 That he's taught
00:10:33.160 He was taught that from Islam
00:10:34.160 Okay
00:10:34.400 Because he said
00:10:35.080 He was dealing with racists
00:10:36.000 Okay but some people
00:10:36.880 That might watch that
00:10:37.580 Might think that we as Muslims
00:10:38.760 Just to clarify
00:10:39.280 Do we
00:10:39.680 No we're taught
00:10:40.700 We're taught to co-exist
00:10:42.000 As it says in chapter 60
00:10:43.680 Verse 8
00:10:44.220 As you know
00:10:44.740 And many parts of the Quran
00:10:46.380 They're not alike
00:10:48.040 Yeah and in the Quran
00:10:49.220 In the Quran it says
00:10:50.080 They're not all alike
00:10:51.420 There's different kinds
00:10:52.160 Christians and the Jews
00:10:53.580 Okay so we are not taught
00:10:54.800 So we don't know
00:10:55.300 Where he got that from
00:10:55.920 Personal experience
00:10:56.560 He said himself
00:10:57.480 He's gone through
00:10:58.380 Some experiences
00:10:59.180 Yeah
00:10:59.520 So he's telling us
00:11:02.340 How he and some of his church members
00:11:04.680 Have decided
00:11:05.320 Since it is now
00:11:06.200 The last day of school
00:11:07.120 And now technically a summer
00:11:08.440 That he and his staff
00:11:10.020 Would invite some of the youth
00:11:11.500 In our neighborhood
00:11:12.560 And close by neighborhoods
00:11:13.840 Over to his house
00:11:15.440 My sister pressured me to go
00:11:17.400 Because she said
00:11:18.260 You are not about to be
00:11:19.300 Getting into some drama
00:11:20.220 You need to go somewhere
00:11:21.260 Where there's some positivity
00:11:22.540 Hold on a second
00:11:24.060 You get kicked out
00:11:26.080 You go to your sister's house
00:11:27.920 Your sister's a Muslim
00:11:29.100 The door knocks
00:11:30.280 You go into a fight
00:11:31.000 The door knocks
00:11:31.640 A group of Christian pastors come
00:11:33.500 And your sister says
00:11:35.000 And they're inviting you
00:11:36.040 To go to maybe a church
00:11:37.920 Wherever
00:11:38.120 And your sister says
00:11:38.800 Okay you need to go to
00:11:39.960 Somewhere with positivity
00:11:40.800 Go to the church
00:11:42.200 I'm just saying
00:11:45.880 As a Muslim
00:11:46.520 It's conceivable
00:11:48.080 Or inconceivable
00:11:51.520 No for
00:11:51.960 You know
00:11:52.740 Let's take his word for it
00:11:53.860 Because
00:11:54.300 Shirk is the highest
00:11:55.720 Not that anything
00:11:56.460 But to take you to a place
00:11:57.560 Come on
00:11:58.060 Anyways
00:11:58.880 Argument's sake
00:11:59.760 Maybe
00:12:00.560 So I'm at this guy's house
00:12:03.440 And I'm looking around
00:12:04.800 It's like
00:12:05.280 All these Christians
00:12:06.140 I had never been around
00:12:07.540 This many young Christians
00:12:08.720 Before in my life
00:12:09.520 Especially of different
00:12:10.620 Ethnicities
00:12:11.360 Races
00:12:11.940 You know
00:12:12.600 Just
00:12:12.920 You know
00:12:13.340 So on and so forth
00:12:14.280 And they chilling
00:12:15.220 We eating food
00:12:16.180 We chopping it up
00:12:16.980 We laughing
00:12:17.600 And
00:12:18.620 Almost out of nowhere
00:12:20.000 A couple hours goes by
00:12:21.340 And then this dude
00:12:22.500 Is just like
00:12:23.320 Hey y'all
00:12:24.040 We're gonna go ahead
00:12:24.760 And turn some worship music on
00:12:26.280 And start worshiping the Lord
00:12:27.660 I'm like
00:12:28.980 Bro
00:12:29.320 What
00:12:29.820 Worship who
00:12:30.820 Like I'm like
00:12:31.760 Man
00:12:32.300 See this is why
00:12:32.960 I can't fool with y'all
00:12:33.840 Church folk
00:12:34.360 Y'all Christians
00:12:34.940 Y'all always want to worship
00:12:36.520 And talk about Jesus
00:12:37.960 It's like
00:12:38.460 I'm trying to have some good food
00:12:39.820 I'm trying to have some good time
00:12:41.240 It was a couple girls up in there
00:12:42.680 I was checking them out
00:12:43.840 I was checking them out
00:12:44.600 So the crazy part
00:12:45.340 Come on man
00:12:47.260 I'm sorry
00:12:47.620 You might tell him
00:12:48.120 I've been nitpicking
00:12:48.700 Yeah
00:12:48.940 But as a Muslim
00:12:49.880 Checking out girls
00:12:50.920 Yeah but he might have been doing it
00:12:52.220 Just doing a sin
00:12:53.420 No problem
00:12:54.080 You know what
00:12:54.580 We're gonna give him that excuse to
00:12:56.000 The first part
00:12:56.900 About him saying
00:12:57.560 We're gonna start worshiping
00:12:58.680 Was that
00:12:59.540 He turned on some music
00:13:01.020 And it was like
00:13:02.020 Some weird hippie music
00:13:03.560 I mean
00:13:03.780 It was contemporary
00:13:04.580 Christian music
00:13:05.640 With like an acoustic guitar
00:13:06.980 But I ain't never heard that
00:13:08.440 The only gospel music
00:13:10.080 I had ever heard
00:13:11.080 Was like
00:13:11.740 That gospel music
00:13:13.260 So I'm thinking like
00:13:14.040 What is this weird
00:13:15.020 Hippie
00:13:16.080 We love you Jesus
00:13:17.480 You know just
00:13:18.140 You know the weird voice
00:13:19.000 And I'm like man
00:13:19.620 What is this that's going on
00:13:21.100 What was really crazy to me though
00:13:22.720 Was that
00:13:23.460 All of the people in there
00:13:25.040 All of the kids
00:13:25.980 The young adults
00:13:26.760 Literally began to worship Jesus
00:13:28.820 Intimately
00:13:29.540 Personally
00:13:30.360 Like they knew him personally
00:13:31.640 Like some would be dancing
00:13:33.120 Some were singing a song
00:13:34.520 Some were down on their knees
00:13:36.080 Crying
00:13:36.800 Some were sitting down
00:13:38.440 Like literally
00:13:39.380 Everyone was just worshiping
00:13:40.840 And talking to Jesus privately
00:13:42.620 And I had never seen that before
00:13:44.520 So you know
00:13:45.760 I'm like whatever
00:13:46.320 You know
00:13:46.580 I'm trying to face towards Mecca
00:13:47.780 Because you know
00:13:48.280 Islam
00:13:48.700 You're supposed to face towards Mecca
00:13:50.160 Come on bro
00:13:50.960 I'm not buying it now
00:13:52.000 I'm not buying it now
00:13:53.340 You're in a room
00:13:54.320 People are starting to worship Jesus
00:13:56.680 No problem
00:13:57.120 That's their faith
00:13:57.560 They can do it
00:13:58.120 And I say
00:13:59.860 I as a Muslim
00:14:00.660 At that moment
00:14:01.320 Face towards Mecca
00:14:02.280 You face towards Mecca to pray
00:14:05.140 You don't just say
00:14:05.780 Okay people are doing this
00:14:06.640 Which way is Mecca
00:14:07.360 Okay
00:14:07.640 I'm just gonna
00:14:08.780 Okay I'm just gonna stand
00:14:09.820 It doesn't add up
00:14:11.240 I'm sorry
00:14:11.540 For now
00:14:11.980 You've been given a lot of excuses
00:14:13.380 And I've took it on board
00:14:14.120 Yeah
00:14:14.280 But someone's doing something
00:14:15.900 And then all of a sudden
00:14:16.540 I go as a Muslim
00:14:17.320 We have never been taught
00:14:19.000 Okay if you're in a crowd
00:14:19.880 That something happens
00:14:20.440 Turn towards Mecca
00:14:21.080 The most were told it
00:14:21.860 Leave the environment
00:14:22.580 And go away
00:14:23.120 It doesn't make sense to me
00:14:24.960 I'm being honest
00:14:25.420 Mecca
00:14:25.760 When you pray
00:14:26.960 Probably about 10 minutes
00:14:27.920 Went by
00:14:28.760 And the presence of God
00:14:30.780 Filled this man's living room
00:14:32.880 And I'm not usually a person
00:14:34.360 That talks about like
00:14:35.200 Feeling type stuff
00:14:36.160 Or spiritual stuff
00:14:37.060 In that way
00:14:37.500 But there is no other way
00:14:38.680 To explain or describe it
00:14:40.040 Than the presence of God
00:14:41.100 Literally
00:14:41.880 One thing
00:14:43.200 I'm being very critical here
00:14:44.480 He said
00:14:45.260 The presence of God
00:14:46.360 Came into the room
00:14:47.100 What do you define
00:14:48.600 As the presence of God
00:14:49.520 And how do you know
00:14:50.260 It's the presence of God
00:14:51.140 Because
00:14:51.780 How do you come to that
00:14:53.100 Because this is an argument
00:14:53.840 A lot of people use
00:14:55.020 It's a subjective experience of
00:14:56.640 Okay what makes you believe
00:14:58.260 Your faith is true
00:14:59.000 It changed my life
00:15:00.040 But okay
00:15:00.520 I as a Muslim can say
00:15:01.680 You know what
00:15:02.100 I came to Islam
00:15:03.100 And it dramatically changed my life
00:15:04.320 A Buddhist
00:15:04.960 A Satan worshipper
00:15:05.860 A Christian
00:15:06.400 A Jew
00:15:06.800 And a seeker
00:15:07.360 Come and say
00:15:07.780 You know what
00:15:08.240 My life was changed
00:15:09.360 It's not an argument
00:15:10.260 Let alone to perceive
00:15:11.720 And say
00:15:12.240 That God's
00:15:14.020 What did he say
00:15:15.320 God's
00:15:16.160 He felt the presence
00:15:17.480 The presence
00:15:18.340 How do you know
00:15:19.400 It was God's presence
00:15:20.180 And not for example
00:15:21.260 Something else
00:15:22.680 Okay
00:15:23.020 I can see what you say
00:15:24.140 I would add to that
00:15:25.060 And say
00:15:25.400 It's fine to have
00:15:27.000 Like you said
00:15:27.520 A subjective experience
00:15:29.400 Which is religious
00:15:31.360 And as you correctly said
00:15:34.720 I think that's actually
00:15:36.060 A very important part
00:15:36.780 Of religion as well
00:15:37.420 Like you had that as well
00:15:38.360 When people go to Mecca
00:15:39.740 And they go to Hajj
00:15:40.480 I think it's very powerful
00:15:41.440 When I went to the Kaaba
00:15:43.560 And I saw the Kaaba
00:15:44.320 For the first time
00:15:45.120 It was something
00:15:46.360 Profound
00:15:47.080 Profound
00:15:47.880 I went to Amra
00:15:49.000 And it's something for me
00:15:50.960 Which was
00:15:51.460 Self-revealing
00:15:53.680 If you like
00:15:54.080 But
00:15:54.300 I don't think
00:15:56.500 This is the beautiful thing
00:15:58.420 About Islam
00:15:58.940 It combines between
00:16:00.860 The spiritual aspect
00:16:02.380 And the rational aspect
00:16:03.360 And that's what I love about it
00:16:04.580 Right
00:16:04.980 So if there is a spiritual
00:16:06.860 If there's something
00:16:08.380 Very spiritual about Islam
00:16:09.320 But it's on a foundation
00:16:11.120 Which is very shaky
00:16:12.000 Or irrational
00:16:13.920 Then
00:16:15.020 It's like building castles
00:16:16.620 On sand
00:16:17.140 Right
00:16:17.780 Or on thin air even
00:16:19.020 You can't build castles
00:16:20.340 On thin air
00:16:20.920 You have to have
00:16:21.700 A very firm
00:16:22.540 And solid foundation
00:16:23.460 And this is the beautiful
00:16:25.220 Thing about Islam
00:16:25.800 Because it's premised
00:16:27.320 On Tawheed
00:16:28.220 On the idea of
00:16:29.580 One God
00:16:30.380 On the idea of
00:16:31.840 One and only
00:16:32.920 Al-Ahad
00:16:33.760 Which of course
00:16:35.500 Is contrary to
00:16:36.580 Christianity
00:16:37.060 Which believes in
00:16:37.780 One and three
00:16:38.360 And three and one
00:16:39.080 Which is a self-contradiction
00:16:40.580 It goes against
00:16:41.780 The law of contradiction
00:16:42.540 It actually goes against
00:16:43.800 The law of contradiction
00:16:45.180 So no matter
00:16:46.200 What spiritual experience
00:16:47.280 You're going to have
00:16:47.780 Thereafter
00:16:48.320 You cannot
00:16:50.000 Fill the gaping hole
00:16:51.620 Which is
00:16:52.160 The intellectual base
00:16:53.500 Of Christianity
00:16:54.040 Exactly
00:16:54.540 You can't do it
00:16:55.200 And that's what's beautiful
00:16:55.840 Like one thing
00:16:57.020 That I personally
00:16:57.440 Love about Islam
00:16:58.020 So I'm trying to figure out
00:16:59.020 What it is
00:16:59.400 I'm thinking like
00:16:59.940 No I'm tripping
00:17:00.760 They put something
00:17:01.980 In the food
00:17:02.440 They don't spike the food
00:17:03.540 And I'm like
00:17:04.440 Okay maybe that's not it
00:17:05.420 Okay maybe it's my
00:17:06.380 Adrenaline
00:17:06.980 Since I got jumped earlier
00:17:08.320 I'm like maybe
00:17:09.400 It's this weird
00:17:10.400 Hipster music
00:17:11.480 That they have playing
00:17:12.560 So I'm trying to figure out
00:17:13.440 What it is
00:17:14.220 But I couldn't
00:17:15.220 So eventually
00:17:16.660 I got up
00:17:17.580 Left out of that man's
00:17:18.840 Living room
00:17:19.220 Went in his guest restroom
00:17:20.340 Closed the door
00:17:21.480 And immediately
00:17:22.320 Started blaspheming
00:17:23.620 And cursing the name
00:17:24.420 Of Jesus
00:17:24.880 Okay
00:17:27.000 He's in the room
00:17:28.200 He feels God's presence
00:17:29.500 If you feel God's presence
00:17:30.900 That should have a
00:17:31.420 Positive impact on you
00:17:32.720 Not a negative one
00:17:33.560 He decides to go
00:17:34.480 To the guest room
00:17:35.320 And in the guest room
00:17:35.900 He says I started
00:17:36.540 Cursing Jesus' name
00:17:37.400 Come on man
00:17:39.120 I'm being honest with you
00:17:39.880 I'm not here to mock anybody
00:17:41.120 I'm genuinely not mocking this person
00:17:42.140 No but why do you do that
00:17:43.420 One second
00:17:43.900 Number one
00:17:44.280 Are we allowed to curse other people
00:17:45.360 Look let alone curse other deities
00:17:47.560 Which we're not allowed
00:17:48.360 Allah has told us we're not allowed
00:17:49.560 Not only that you can be sinful
00:17:50.820 Because we know
00:17:51.460 That we are taught
00:17:52.160 If I insult your mum
00:17:53.260 I'm sinning
00:17:54.260 Of course Jesus is a prophet right
00:17:55.560 Yes
00:17:56.460 I'm going to come to that
00:17:57.300 Yeah
00:17:57.460 If I insult your mum
00:17:58.960 And if I've caused you
00:18:00.060 To insult my mum
00:18:00.780 I get the sin
00:18:01.900 When you're cursing
00:18:03.100 Somebody else's deity
00:18:04.420 Let alone a prophet of God
00:18:07.100 Come on man
00:18:08.540 If anyone curses a prophet of God
00:18:09.760 Then they've left the fold of them
00:18:11.160 Come on
00:18:11.440 You're a Muslim
00:18:12.020 You went to another room
00:18:12.980 You felt the presence of God
00:18:14.060 And you go to another room
00:18:15.720 And start cursing your own prophet
00:18:16.980 This guy
00:18:17.440 He seems to have
00:18:19.700 Either
00:18:20.160 To be fair
00:18:21.100 We've been trying to
00:18:22.300 Be fair to him
00:18:22.840 You have been
00:18:23.600 And I've been through a critical
00:18:24.820 It doesn't happen
00:18:25.600 But no
00:18:25.980 It's not about adding up
00:18:27.680 Maybe what he was upon
00:18:28.620 Was not Islam
00:18:29.320 Maybe he didn't actually
00:18:30.360 Because if he feels like cursing
00:18:32.240 Because what it seems like
00:18:33.060 He's saying is that
00:18:33.700 Because he was in that environment
00:18:34.980 Yeah
00:18:35.580 Where they're all kind of
00:18:36.620 Chanting Jesus' name
00:18:37.820 And to counter that
00:18:38.680 He went and started cursing Jesus
00:18:40.560 You don't do that
00:18:41.260 So his understanding of Islam
00:18:43.220 Must have been at best
00:18:44.460 Dangerous
00:18:45.060 No
00:18:45.480 At best
00:18:46.700 A very ignorant one
00:18:48.160 Right
00:18:48.560 Maybe
00:18:48.740 So he thought
00:18:49.960 I'm going to beg to differ
00:18:51.020 And say
00:18:51.440 I totally don't believe this story
00:18:52.980 Like we've all due respect
00:18:53.960 But let's carry on
00:18:54.640 This is nearly finished anyway
00:18:55.520 It's not the son of Allah
00:18:56.980 That Allah does not have children
00:18:58.920 That Jesus is just
00:19:00.280 The prophet
00:19:00.760 Not even as great
00:19:01.520 As the great prophet Muhammad
00:19:02.780 Like I'm saying
00:19:03.660 All of these things
00:19:04.660 That I have been
00:19:05.660 Studied and raised up
00:19:07.440 Within Islam
00:19:08.320 To believe
00:19:09.160 And about five minutes
00:19:11.960 Goes by
00:19:12.660 And I feel
00:19:14.160 The presence of God
00:19:15.440 Feel this man's living room
00:19:17.660 Like just feel
00:19:18.640 This man's house
00:19:19.520 And I'm on the floor
00:19:21.020 Crying
00:19:21.860 Weeping
00:19:22.620 Under the presence of God
00:19:24.500 I just want to say one thing
00:19:25.300 It's really interesting though
00:19:26.340 Like
00:19:26.700 To be fair
00:19:27.720 Two things I want to add
00:19:29.660 Who becomes Muslim
00:19:31.620 And who leaves Islam
00:19:32.640 Yes
00:19:32.880 Because
00:19:33.800 The thing is
00:19:35.360 At the time of the prophet
00:19:36.160 There were people
00:19:36.600 That became Muslim
00:19:37.280 And left Islam
00:19:37.920 We're not denying the fact
00:19:39.480 That apostasy happens
00:19:40.360 And we shouldn't deny that
00:19:41.800 And we're not denying
00:19:42.420 Individual experiences
00:19:43.660 Those things happen
00:19:45.140 Right
00:19:45.420 Allah has
00:19:47.260 Has
00:19:48.260 You know
00:19:48.860 Has a message for those people
00:19:50.280 For those individuals
00:19:58.440 If they really did
00:19:59.540 Come out of Islam
00:20:00.340 If they said
00:20:04.940 The kalimat al-kufra
00:20:06.140 And they came out of Islam
00:20:06.840 If they come back
00:20:07.760 Allah will
00:20:08.360 He will forgive them
00:20:10.300 And if they turn away
00:20:12.080 He will punish them
00:20:13.340 In this world
00:20:13.840 And the hereafter
00:20:14.440 Apostasy happens
00:20:15.660 Yes
00:20:16.120 And Allah has certain
00:20:17.360 Methodology
00:20:18.880 With those individuals
00:20:19.600 That apostate
00:20:20.680 As in surat al-tawbah
00:20:21.680 However
00:20:22.880 What I wanted to say
00:20:23.800 Is that
00:20:24.100 Number one
00:20:24.560 It doesn't mean anything
00:20:25.540 If people come into Islam
00:20:27.120 Or come out of Islam
00:20:28.700 Whether Islam is the fastest
00:20:29.880 Growing religion
00:20:30.540 Which it is
00:20:31.160 Pew says that
00:20:32.900 By the way
00:20:33.860 Six million people
00:20:34.940 Become Muslim
00:20:35.800 Every single year
00:20:36.780 Six million
00:20:38.500 That's way more than Christianity
00:20:39.680 In terms of conversion only
00:20:40.840 Conversion only
00:20:41.900 That's how they estimate it
00:20:42.920 So in terms of conversion
00:20:44.360 Islam is doing the best
00:20:46.320 In terms of conversion
00:20:47.380 If you don't
00:20:48.420 Kind of
00:20:49.140 Take atheism into consideration
00:20:50.600 But that doesn't mean anything
00:20:53.220 Whether it's
00:20:53.780 People are converting to Islam
00:20:55.080 Whether there's one Muslim
00:20:56.460 Or a billion Muslims
00:20:57.940 Or three Muslims
00:20:59.140 Whatever it may be
00:21:00.140 It doesn't matter
00:21:00.720 Or people are leaving Islam
00:21:02.640 Or people are coming into Islam
00:21:03.620 The truth is the truth
00:21:04.340 And so what I find really striking
00:21:05.900 About conversion stories
00:21:06.940 Which Christians
00:21:08.160 That have become Muslim
00:21:10.140 Is that it's usually quite rational
00:21:11.560 They talk about the Trinity
00:21:12.920 And how they've come to realise
00:21:14.140 That in the Trinity
00:21:14.660 The Father
00:21:15.560 The Son
00:21:15.900 The Holy Spirit
00:21:16.500 If you ask a Christian
00:21:18.860 Is the Father God
00:21:19.960 He'll say yes
00:21:20.380 The Son God
00:21:21.180 Yes
00:21:21.420 The Holy Spirit
00:21:22.120 Yes
00:21:22.620 But they're not the same
00:21:23.160 They're all one God
00:21:24.200 That's a contradiction
00:21:26.600 Most Christians
00:21:27.300 Can't fathom and live with
00:21:28.640 So it's very rational
00:21:29.940 And that's how they become Muslim
00:21:31.120 You're totally right
00:21:33.140 You hit the nail on the head
00:21:33.920 My issue is not that
00:21:35.000 My problem is this
00:21:35.860 That it's sad
00:21:37.380 Because right now
00:21:38.260 What we've seen
00:21:38.640 Is because Islam is growing
00:21:39.660 Missionary tactics
00:21:41.380 Are going down the route
00:21:42.660 Of lying and deceiving
00:21:44.460 That they were something
00:21:45.600 When they were not
00:21:46.260 That's the problem that I have
00:21:47.620 If I heard this
00:21:48.480 And the guy said
00:21:48.900 You know what
00:21:49.340 I genuinely
00:21:50.220 This is what happened
00:21:51.920 I would understand
00:21:53.040 But the way he's going about
00:21:54.120 And there's simple things
00:21:55.160 In Islam that you don't do
00:21:56.000 That he's doing
00:21:56.500 And saying
00:21:56.860 It doesn't add up to me
00:21:58.800 That's what I'm saying
00:21:59.720 I have no problem
00:22:01.180 People look
00:22:01.640 Allah doesn't need anybody
00:22:03.480 If everybody's died
00:22:04.880 Apostate
00:22:05.260 It doesn't mean nothing
00:22:06.140 But let's just finish off
00:22:07.400 And this man don't even know
00:22:10.300 What's going on
00:22:11.020 I get up
00:22:11.880 I look in the mirror
00:22:13.000 I'm wiping the tears
00:22:14.520 And I'm like
00:22:15.220 God
00:22:15.740 I'm not even a Christian
00:22:17.220 I'm a Muslim
00:22:17.900 I was like
00:22:18.580 I don't even believe
00:22:19.460 Your Bible is true
00:22:20.660 Because Islam teaches
00:22:21.580 That the Bible
00:22:22.160 Is only partially true
00:22:23.280 And for the first time ever
00:22:25.000 I heard God's voice
00:22:25.960 And God spoke to me
00:22:26.940 He said
00:22:27.620 Don't worry about changing
00:22:28.700 Don't worry about transforming
00:22:30.060 Read my word
00:22:31.700 And allow my word
00:22:33.280 And my love
00:22:34.040 To transform
00:22:35.080 You
00:22:35.400 After that
00:22:36.020 I didn't immediately
00:22:36.840 Just get saved
00:22:37.720 And everything was
00:22:38.540 Rose petals
00:22:39.400 It was a huge tug of war
00:22:41.160 Between both the faiths
00:22:42.960 Within my heart
00:22:43.660 A lot of Christians say this
00:22:44.780 I'm just really curious
00:22:45.960 Just a very
00:22:46.660 And I don't mean
00:22:47.180 I genuinely
00:22:48.060 Because we know
00:22:48.740 A lot of Christian people
00:22:49.500 We've got a lot of friends
00:22:50.740 That are Christian
00:22:51.540 Even though in the park
00:22:52.340 You know
00:22:52.520 Genuinely
00:22:53.740 How do you know
00:22:55.280 That the person
00:22:56.040 Or whatever is talking to you
00:22:57.160 Is God but not Satan
00:22:58.160 How do you know
00:22:59.560 How do you come to this conclusion
00:23:00.700 Of what I heard
00:23:02.140 Is from God
00:23:03.240 I've always been curious
00:23:04.940 It's for an evidence
00:23:05.980 To be an evidence
00:23:06.580 It has to be somewhat
00:23:07.640 Verifiable
00:23:08.720 Somewhat verifiable
00:23:09.800 You know
00:23:10.740 It's got to be third person
00:23:12.620 In a sense
00:23:12.940 We've all got to see
00:23:14.320 And experiment
00:23:15.640 With what you're talking about
00:23:16.620 If it's first person
00:23:17.620 It can be good for you
00:23:18.660 Yes
00:23:19.240 But you can't use
00:23:19.940 A and evidence
00:23:20.340 Exactly
00:23:20.740 That's what I'm saying
00:23:21.320 And that's another argument
00:23:22.040 In my heart
00:23:22.960 Because I wanted to honor God
00:23:24.560 But I wanted to make sure
00:23:25.800 That I was doing it
00:23:26.600 The right way
00:23:27.240 But those people
00:23:28.700 Lovingly walked with me
00:23:30.300 And through them
00:23:31.400 Walking with me
00:23:31.980 Through them showing me
00:23:32.660 Through the text
00:23:33.200 And through the scriptures
00:23:33.900 And through their love
00:23:34.740 I was able to realize
00:23:35.680 That Jesus is the son of God
00:23:37.200 He is God
00:23:38.120 He is more than just a prophet
00:23:39.520 So man
00:23:40.740 That is the story
00:23:41.520 As to how I got saved
00:23:42.600 So that's it man
00:23:43.420 That's what it was
00:23:44.020 And guys
00:23:44.440 Brothers and sisters
00:23:44.900 The reason I wanted to
00:23:46.000 You know
00:23:46.380 Do this is because
00:23:47.140 It's something that we can
00:23:49.160 Learn from
00:23:49.760 And understand
00:23:50.540 That you know
00:23:51.440 It personally
00:23:55.260 Did not add up to me
00:23:56.060 I would say to you also
00:23:57.360 This is a really interesting
00:23:58.900 Social experiment
00:24:00.520 One can do with themselves
00:24:01.480 Is watch three
00:24:02.980 Videos like these
00:24:04.740 People converting out of Islam
00:24:06.140 And then watch the videos
00:24:07.640 Of people coming into Islam
00:24:08.660 And kind of compare
00:24:09.500 The things that people are saying
00:24:11.020 Because usually you'll find
00:24:11.900 That most of the things
00:24:13.020 Are being said here
00:24:13.720 In this video particularly
00:24:14.600 Are either emotional
00:24:15.800 Or highly subjective
00:24:17.360 Exactly
00:24:17.960 This is exactly what we're saying
00:24:19.240 That's why in Islam
00:24:19.920 We don't believe in blind faith
00:24:21.060 We believe that
00:24:22.000 Allah SWT says
00:24:22.780 Use your brain
00:24:23.980 Use it
00:24:24.740 Ponder upon my creation
00:24:25.820 Don't just totally
00:24:27.340 Blind faith
00:24:28.620 And that's what it is
00:24:29.460 This is how I felt
00:24:30.220 Because the Christian
00:24:31.260 The Satan worshipper
00:24:32.120 Satan worshipper
00:24:32.840 You can say Satan
00:24:33.580 I started worshipping Satan
00:24:35.040 My life has been better
00:24:35.980 It's been amazing
00:24:36.520 Guys
00:24:37.240 That's about it
00:24:37.840 From us
00:24:38.240 From the house
00:24:38.820 It's been a velo
00:24:39.780 A very
00:24:41.220 Not velo
00:24:41.860 A very mellow
00:24:43.140 Chillin air experiment
00:24:44.220 That we did
00:24:44.720 Inshallah
00:24:45.300 Inshallah
00:24:45.740 If you guys have benefited
00:24:46.340 Share with your friends
00:24:46.920 And family
00:24:47.300 Till next time
00:24:48.100 Take care
00:24:49.560 Asalaamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
00:24:50.680 Thank you