Ali Dawah - November 13, 2018REACTING TO SIDS IMMODESTY - SID & DINAS PODCAST
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about the controversy surrounding our sister, Dina, and her husband's reaction to a video that surfaced about why she wears the hijab. We also talk about why we should support her and her family.
Transcript
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Would you say what he said is worse than taking the hijab off?
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If he meant what he said and he believes in what he said, it has way worse ramifications.
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As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh brothers and sisters and dear friends.
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Before I start, I want to praise Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, the most merciful, the most just.
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All praises, glory and gratitude belong to him.
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He had a debate against a very big Islamophobe who's been attacking the religion,
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mocking the religion and alhamdulillah he absolutely got intellectually destroyed.
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We highly recommend you to watch that video inshaAllah.
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But let's come to the straight point to our topic today inshaAllah.
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So basically, as you know about before we came to New York, I did a video about our sister Dino.
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But alhamdulillah, so it was good alhamdulillah.
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I just gave my point across, you know, and et cetera, et cetera.
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It was just a video about the hijab, you know, why women wear the hijab.
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And I just brought Sister Dino's issue into it as well.
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And just give a bit of nasir to her and obviously to the sisters that are watching as well.
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So now this is a new video that came out, you know, a podcast between her and her husband.
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Because what I was doing, I was revising it for my debate.
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Because I wanted to hear obviously like why, you know, why she chose to go down that route.
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Because she's our sister at the end of the day.
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You know, it gives us an understanding of the psychology of our sisters.
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We try to help our youth in order to, inshallah, make practicing the religion easier for them.
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So that's why I keep an eye on these kinds of things.
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I don't watch every single video of theirs, but it caught my attention.
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And just to be clear, like, I mean, this whole thing.
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My position on the matter is that what I heard from the podcast is that the sister, Dina, her name is, yeah?
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She made it plainly clear that she doesn't believe that she's representing, like, Islam or anything like that in what she's doing.
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I think she's a sister that requires our support.
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And, you know, you can tell by her voice, to be honest with you, it seems like she's going through some kind of...
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I'm not trying to read into this, but it could be that she's going through some kind of psychological issues as well.
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She seems a little bit like she's going through things in life or whatever.
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You can even see that in the podcast, like, you know, that she's upset.
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I'm going to go straight to the reaction video.
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But before we do, I just want to say to the people who are calling her, you're a disgrace, you're a this.
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Your own wife, your sister can go through this.
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She didn't consider herself a hijabi for three years or something like that.
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We've got certain bits that we're going to react to, inshallah, yeah?
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Because people, obviously, like, I see what's going on because I'm attached to Dina's hip.
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So, just to give a little brief here, because we didn't want...
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We watched Hollywood, but we don't want to go through the whole thing with you guys, yeah?
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Sid is talking to Dina for the whole issue, et cetera, et cetera.
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This video is called reacting to Sid and not Dina.
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Here's the reason why you're going to understand.
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Because, obviously, she's talking, et cetera, about why she chose that decision, blah, blah, blah.
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We are more concentrated on what's about to happen now.
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And there's a build-up as it kind of gets worse with our brother Sid.
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And we thought it is becoming an alarming level where we had to say something about it.
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Because people, obviously, like, I see what's going on because I'm attached to Dina's hip.
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But if you're going to start doing these things...
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If you come on Mr. Khan's podcast, you're going to have to listen to...
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You're going to have to listen to Mr. Khan's jokes.
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This is one of the first vulgar comments, yeah?
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Which I've seen on a few other videos, which we've assumed the best and said, okay...
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She's standing her ground and trying to censor that stuff, you know?
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This is what I was kind of like a bit surprised about, yeah?
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Because a lot of people in the comments section are having a go at...
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Oh, Dina, you took a hijab off, et cetera, et cetera.
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But what surprises me and shocks me, and this is a big phenomenon within the Muslim community,
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is that for some reason they think the hijab, be it the head covering...
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Not a single person in the comments section came and said,
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Sid, why are you talking in an immodest way, brother?
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I was just going through just to see people's perspectives.
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I didn't come across a single comment that said, Sid, why are you using vulgar language?
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There's very strict hadith on these kind of things where you start making sexual...
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Not even innuendos, but you're making sexual references, yeah?
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And there's a hadith of the Prophet Muhammad where he told us that the worst of creatures
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are those individuals who expose their sexual...
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What they're doing, like, private, publicly and stuff.
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But I think a lot of people would know exactly what he's trying to make reference to.
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So, frankly, like, I'm happy that Deena kind of stood her ground with that.
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Like, when they find their husbands, you know, going away from the Sharia and doing things
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Like, this is kind of inappropriate kind of stuff.
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If you're watching this, look, brother, we don't have nothing personal against you.
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I would not have made a video if it was just this.
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If you're going to give advice, there's a way of doing it.
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A lot of people will give advice in a nice, kind, friendly way.
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It's not a thing of if you're going to give advice.
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Let there rise amongst you a group of people who will enjoy good and forbid evil.
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And we even have a hadith from the Prophet SAW who said,
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If you do not enjoy good and forbid evil, Allah will send down a calamity
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that even if you prostrate it will be rejected from you.
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And not only that, like Dina, you did give nasiyah to Sid
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it's a contradiction because you're giving them that advice.
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Maybe she's thinking to those who are criticising.
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Maybe she's saying to those who are really harsh.
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Why are you affecting the Muslim youth, my sister?
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Every single public figure has that responsibility on their shoulders.
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I personally believe there's nothing funny about it.
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You actually gave another advice that you acknowledge that you are.
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But you actually can't be disappointed that you're not my everything.
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You know, that's deep that every single one of us are going to utter under their judgment.
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Obviously, inshallah, we're amongst the righteous ones.
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But we're going to utter and be like, look, I'm free from you.
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Anyone that's coming and taking pictures with me.
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Other than that, I'm going to say, look, I don't know you.
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One thing I actually learned from that, because I think that we can all get into this.
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And I learned from that, that she's gone through a journey where she's realized that, subhanAllah,
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And I think she's kind of come to that realization.
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And I think we could learn from someone like Dina from that perspective, because she's gone and see, she's seen much more than we have in terms of fame and publicity and these things.
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And she's come to a certain conclusion, I think.
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My life is separate from social media and these things.
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So it is a profound, I would say, psychological kind of realization.
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I'd be happy to lose you guys and go and have to work in a regular nine to five.
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So right here, he's talking about those people in the Twitter who are involved in MMA or something
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So he's having a go at them and saying, you are this.
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So he's using the word, he's using, this begins with a C, but he's using the word penis.
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And he's, he's, he's saying, oh, yeah, but you've only seen one.
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Brother Sid, I'm just being honest with you, just heart to heart, yeah?
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And you know, like when I, I don't, what did Sid, let's see what Dina said about this.
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To be honest with you, just as someone who's kind of seen this for the first time and, and
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heard them properly, like for a long period of time, I've come across their videos before,
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And to be honest with you, I feel like Dina has a lot more to offer.
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And I feel like Sid, in order to overcompensate for this, he might be trying to be a bit more
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ridiculous, be a bit more frivolous, capricious, because he, I think he realizes that the audience
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And if that's the case, I would say that, look, you don't need to do this in order to
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I mean, you don't need to, um, go down this route of vulgarity and overcapriciousness.
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You should just have a self, like you said, have a filter.
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You know, there's certain things you say, certain things you don't.
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Cause to me, it's like, everyone's concentrating.
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But over here, it seems to me more that we are more concentrated on the outer garment
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Because over here, I'm sorry, but hijabs, I'm sorry, Sid's, Sid's modesty.
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It's how to present yourself as a human, a dignified human being.
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I feel like, from just looking at this for the first time, that Dina seems to have a
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And everyone's clubbing and like drinking because.
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I think that is, is very imperative that a woman's right in Islam.
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She's got first of all, be treated with kindness.
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But also she has a right to a man that really, um, has a lot of self dignity, you know, and
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if a man consistently in a husband wife relationship, um, kind of disrespects himself, if you like
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in a public setting, then a, then a wife, she's, she's being, uh, in a sense, she's being
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deprived of her rights because you are representative of your wife.
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And if you're talking like that and your wife is not very comfortable with it.
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My advice to you, brother, is that, you know, you take your wife's advice.
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She seems to be, you know, controlling the discussion a little bit more, has a little
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It's really dumb for me because before I met Dina.
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I wouldn't say religious, but I used to be like, on the Dean.
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I'm a better person now than I was before when I was on the Dean.
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So, this seems to be the biggest, most egregious problem of his comment.
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He is saying, if I've understood it correctly, because it's completely apparent from what he's
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He's using a comparative in English language, the word better, to signify that his life or
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his morality had improved as a result of distancing himself away from the deen religion.
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My first question to him would be, from where do you get your moral anchorage?
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So, here, because the thing is, we as Muslims, we believe, as you know, that Allah, who is
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the creator of the heavens and the earth, he sent prophets.
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And these prophets are sinless prophets who guide people to the straight path.
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If you love Allah, then follow me, i.e. the Prophet Muhammad.
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So, the maximally perfect model, the Uswat-un-Hassana from an Islamic perspective, is the Prophet Muhammad
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So, if you're saying that by getting closer to this model, you're becoming a worse person,
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then this would contradict the premise of Islam on a fundamental level.
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My advice to you, brother, would be for you to reassess, where do you actually get your
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As Muslims, we say, that which is closest to the sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad and all
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And those which are further away from it are bad things.
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And finally, I want to say one other thing, which I feel a little bit ironic in a sense.
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Now, I apologize if it does come across like that.
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But it seems like your wife, obviously, she was a hijab tutorialist or something like that.
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So clearly, she relied on a Muslim community in order to propel herself to this position
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You were assisted by her on going to social media.
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And it seems like now, this is the feeling that you're biting the hand that fed you.
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Because the Muslim community who are being referenced implicitly throughout this whole
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And the Muslim community who brought you up, now you're trying to distance yourself away
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And you're kind of almost kind of placing blame on them.
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But this part here is even more egregious than that.
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Because you're saying that the deen itself, the religion itself, being further away from
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So, you're going to have to retract that statement, in my opinion.
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And you're going to have to reconsider where you get your morality from.
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It's just going to be a case of, for me, like, someone who has internally, has internalized
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And that's what you come across as, to be honest with you.
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Honestly, sometimes you come across as someone who's trying to overprove his liberalism.
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And throughout the podcast, when your wife tried to have a few meaningful conversations
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about religion, you seem to want to move away from that.
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Reassess the purpose of life, to be honest with you.
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Yes, because you know, Allah SWT says in the Quran, the people of the book will never be
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I'm just saying, if you went a bit in detail and studied your religion, you will understand
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the beauty of it and not say, oh, it made me, I'm a better person than I was before.
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Subhanallah, look, do you see that the fact that Sister Dina had to come in there and interject
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Because it seemed like, like Sid, you're coming across like you're not practicing with that
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Because Dina felt like, you know, you're saying it made you a better person.
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Okay, you're not letting me finish my point, mate.
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sometimes plonk it on their head when people are, like, reciting Quran or something or going
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Just plonk it on your head a little bit sometimes.
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So, when I met Dina and I was like, wait, you wear that 24-7?
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You know what? Sorry, can I make a comment about this?
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I don't actually believe, I'm sorry to say, I don't actually believe that your level
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of ignorance has reached a level where you don't actually think that women put their
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Like, all you have to do is walk in the streets of London and you know that women don't
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So, in a nutshell, what we're saying is we're just...
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I'm just trying to highlight here, yeah, is that...
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You can't just concentrate on sister Dina while brother Sid is saying thing.
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I was expecting the sisters to come out and at least say, you know what?
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What about Sid and the foul language and the stuff they use?
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This is really important but it shows where we're at.
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For me, the central issue, yeah, with his, what he said...
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Would you say what he said is worse than sister Dina taking the hijab off?
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So, right now, I consider him, yeah, I consider him a little bit unaware.
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I think he's a bit unaware of the implications of what he's saying.
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I do genuinely feel, I hope, hope, really, yeah, that he reconsiders, number one, what
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Number two, where his source of moral anchorage comes from.
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And you can just go back to basics and then try a lot of things will fall into place.
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Just the fact that we are concentrating more on Sister Dina's hijab, which once again,
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we've acknowledged, and not what Sid said, if he meant it like that, shows our understanding
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We are more concentrated in that, which is, of course, as well.
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Sid is going through something, may Allah make it easy for her.
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But Sid saying that, and not a single comment, not a single video on this topic shows
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Because she even said herself, I don't consider myself a hijab for three years.
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Sid, look, we're not, we're just here as your brother.
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I wonder how the airะฐะตััั and escape the air tank in the sky.
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I don't think volume should be in the battle room.
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I do the medical hav fifty-fuse for other people value.
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If you want some additional ืืื, the helmet should be.
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So we want some ownership or what you want to twice because of the air.
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The prize Vale in the chair is a lie-fuse for three years.
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This is about the nineragen Flewman's power for three months.