Ali Dawah - August 10, 2026


SHE LEFT MUSLIMS SPEECHLESS - ATHEIST VS LOGIC - SPEAKERS CORNER


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00:00:00.000 but sister you're saying I don't care and I'm saying facts also don't care do you care if I
00:00:05.300 can go through this wall or not okay I'm gonna try it okay okay now you caring and not caring
00:00:11.980 doesn't take from the fact that I couldn't go through the wall now would you agree sister that
00:00:15.200 if the sun was a little bit closer or we was close up we will burn your DNA has information
00:00:20.820 information requires intelligence i'm actually gobsmacked bro
00:00:26.420 once you're in that grave there's no i could have i would have i should have case closed
00:00:32.600 allah tells us that a man when his soul is taken away allah says he's going to say what
00:00:36.800 send me back to do hajj umrah salah fasting what no sadaqah brothers and sisters ayera
00:00:42.360 is getting thousands of shahadas monthly yearly hundreds of thousands of people are coming to
00:00:48.180 islam they are printing quran distributing material training duat brothers and sisters 0.97
00:00:53.140 do you want the part of that sadaqa jariah that goes on forever this is how islam has spread 0.83
00:00:58.260 around the world brothers sisters carry on this legacy of the process sell them inshallah by
00:01:02.420 donating whatever man inshallah and support ira right now inshallah enjoy the video
00:01:11.540 sorry i've got to pray yeah but he will embrace me yeah you're the first atheist hijabi
00:01:16.900 but but but but you know what there's there's there's goodness in your heart that inshallah
00:01:23.800 you're gonna you're gonna be a muslim hijabi inshallah what's what's um so tell me because
00:01:30.680 i'll be honest with you i'm the first time i've been doing dawah for i've been doing dawah for
00:01:33.500 like 14 years i have never i have never come across a atheist hijabi so firstly tell me sister what
00:01:39.860 what does that mean what's that sheikh what does it mean oh yes yes alhamdulillah allah's love is
00:01:51.520 there for you why okay let me just ask them when did you become an atheist how come you still got
00:01:56.480 the hijab on which is i'm not saying take it off but like what made you say okay you know what like
00:02:00.800 are you coming from do you come a muslim family good you was born a muslim we know
00:02:05.800 Your life has it always been a Muslim perfect. When did you fall into atheism? 0.57
00:02:13.600 Okay
00:02:25.480 You don't mind it's been recorded yeah
00:02:27.920 You know what I'll be you know, you know, okay, it's up to you reason saying is because I think
00:02:32.480 think there's a lot of people who are in your shoes the reason we have these
00:02:36.300 record is because me and you might have a discussion but your journey and what
00:02:40.720 caused you to come out of Islam there might be millions of people that might
00:02:44.500 have the same thing that that might help that's the reason we record it yeah but
00:02:48.780 it's up to you because we are already live on YouTube that's what I said so
00:02:52.020 if you're okay yeah yeah yeah no it's it's it's it's it's fine so it's don't
00:02:57.800 there's nothing wrong with look at the end of the day you've come for answers
00:03:01.200 or what's the reason you've come yeah kind of like i'm trying to see if there are because obviously
00:03:05.980 like my parents still want me to like keep searching and i'm more than happy to do that
00:03:10.040 for them yes i've tried a lot you know with the stuff but yeah i don't give it a shot see if
00:03:15.740 anyone has any answers okay right okay sometimes my like conversation comes up as a bit like
00:03:20.320 argument it's more like no no no i can't believe something unless i'm completely convinced them
00:03:24.380 you know and i can't force myself to do something either okay so what is your um what is your main
00:03:29.340 contextual let's put it like this what made you what made you um leave why is this can you can
00:03:36.620 you put this on charge yeah yes why is this love the true religion that was my question that i was
00:03:41.340 asked from a friend like she came to me out of like knowledge she wanted some help okay um and i
00:03:45.900 you know because i was like you know the muslim god was able to help people um and i couldn't give
00:03:51.260 her a solid on something that you cannot say no to i don't like okay yeah like an answer that's
00:03:58.220 like oh this is this means it's likely or you know this is it's probable it's not like you know i
00:04:04.140 feel like if it's true there should be a solid reason that i cannot say no to whatsoever see
00:04:09.820 the quran is not just meant to be memorized but it's meant to be memorized and understood so you
00:04:14.060 could connect with the revelation of allah on a deep level that you've never experienced before
00:04:19.260 i have the perfect tool for you the kalam app is a simple app you download on your phone you
00:04:23.420 could learn the classical arabic language and it'll teach you how to pronounce the quran
00:04:27.420 correctly download the kalam app and understand the quran like you've never done before okay
00:04:33.440 let's let's let's before we before we jump into religion let's start off with uh god because
00:04:39.260 that's where the main contention is religion religion we can come to after let's start off
00:04:44.120 with why you deny that a creator exists religion is secondary you get it because it's not point
00:04:50.080 me talking to you about the quran if you don't believe in the one that sent the quran
00:04:52.700 So what makes you say that Allah doesn't exist, atheism makes more sense?
00:05:01.000 I think that the existence of a god is much more likely to come about just humans,
00:05:07.700 humans existing over many many years.
00:05:10.200 Not all the existence of a god, sorry, the idea of a god amongst...
00:05:12.300 The existence of a god is much more likely to come about just just humans,
00:05:17.200 like humans existing over many many years.
00:05:18.700 But not all the existence of a god, sorry...
00:05:19.600 The idea of a god among people...
00:05:21.600 Basically, man-made God, not God-made man.
00:05:24.060 I think that makes much more sense.
00:05:25.760 Okay, let's break that down.
00:05:27.560 So when you say man-made God,
00:05:30.120 what that means is, for example,
00:05:31.660 that we don't have any logical, rational belief
00:05:33.680 that there is a higher power.
00:05:36.340 And because, for example, back in the days,
00:05:38.880 a thunder would hit the floor.
00:05:40.400 They would be like,
00:05:40.720 oh, the gods are not happy with us.
00:05:42.680 We don't know something weird.
00:05:43.480 Okay, you know what's very interesting?
00:05:44.940 Islam came to debunk this nonsense. 1.00
00:05:47.020 So Islam is... 1.00
00:05:48.680 No, it doesn't.
00:05:49.460 So we don't believe lightning hitting you.
00:05:51.600 It's from God. We don't believe for example if a tsunami hits a nation that God is not happy with them
00:05:56.640 We don't believe this. So Islam actually came to debunk these false
00:06:01.020 Superstition beliefs. Very interesting because a lot of people think that Islam actually believes in this. We don't believe in this
00:06:06.120 We believe that's why Allah says use your rationale and logic. We don't believe that 1.00
00:06:11.100 This thing of for example, let's say somebody walks. A lot of Asian community have this. Somebody done magic, jinn
00:06:17.460 Why is everything jinn and magic? How about you just tripped over?
00:06:20.500 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:06:22.500 So do you see, I understand where you're coming from because I can relate to it.
00:06:24.500 I came to Islam 14 years ago.
00:06:26.500 This idea of something happened,
00:06:28.500 my uncle in Pakistan or Bangladesh, you're Bengali.
00:06:31.500 Are you Bengali?
00:06:33.500 Are you Bengali?
00:06:34.500 No.
00:06:35.500 Why are you?
00:06:36.500 Sudanese and Syria. 0.77
00:06:37.500 Oh, Sudanese and Syria. Okay, sorry.
00:06:38.500 So, Asian community have this. 1.00
00:06:40.500 Something happens, they're like, you're in Pakistan,
00:06:42.500 your uncle in Pakistan doesn't say it on you.
00:06:44.500 Brother, where did you get that from, bro?
00:06:46.500 Where the hell did you get that from?
00:06:48.500 She's going through or he's going through a psychological issue. How about it's a medical condition?
00:06:52.400 Why is it straight jinn and magic and sihr?
00:06:55.260 So Islam came to abolish this notion of superstition.
00:06:59.840 Yes, and by the way, a lot of people have this even atheists don't walk underneath the ladder. Don't open the umbrella in the house.
00:07:05.480 I think an atheist. 0.78
00:07:08.960 But you know what it is, to them, it's one thing what people don't understand is this.
00:07:13.020 All of us, including an atheist or whoever, we all have some sort of faith.
00:07:17.940 there's some deep down like faith in something like when i speak to an atheist they're like oh
00:07:23.940 you religious people you believe in fairy tales and i'm like brother the biggest fairy tale is
00:07:28.420 you believe that something made nothing something came from nothing okay but okay but good but an
00:07:34.820 atheist believes what that we came from what an atheist doesn't necessarily have to believe in
00:07:41.940 the beginning of it. Say that again?
00:07:43.940 An atheist, specifically, an atheist, it's just a lack of belief in God.
00:07:46.940 Okay, okay, good. An atheist can believe a multitude of things.
00:07:49.940 It's just a lack of belief in God. Okay, good. But the main belief is what? 1.00
00:07:52.940 They deny God. Yeah.
00:07:55.940 So, okay. So, the thing here is this, though. Is it a rational or irrational case?
00:07:59.940 Let me break it down for you. Number one, we agreed that Islam has come to abolish this 0.98
00:08:03.940 belief system of petty belief systems of if something, the lightning hits somebody,
00:08:07.940 God is not pleased with them. I don't think Islam abolished that.
00:08:09.940 Islam came to abolish that. I'll tell you. 1.00
00:08:11.940 It still exists.
00:08:12.940 Okay, tell me.
00:08:13.940 Everything in the wording.
00:08:14.940 Good. Tell me where in the Quran.
00:08:15.940 Maybe it might say, it might have ideas. 1.00
00:08:17.940 I don't want to deal with cultural baggage with people.
00:08:19.940 I want to know.
00:08:20.940 You said abolish, which implies that.
00:08:22.940 No, no, no. Where in the Quran or the Sunnah does it come and say that we should believe in these superstitious things?
00:08:27.940 It doesn't. Why does it say that we should?
00:08:29.940 Very clearly. For example, there's a hadith of the Prophet Muhammad.
00:08:32.940 Hadith?
00:08:33.940 Yeah.
00:08:34.940 Yeah.
00:08:35.940 No, no.
00:08:36.940 No, but I take hadif as well.
00:08:39.700 That's from my Islamic literature.
00:08:40.700 You said, we're in the Quran. 0.68
00:08:42.140 Sorry, we're in the Quran and hadif.
00:08:43.580 Does it exist? Okay, okay.
00:08:45.100 Yeah, okay. We're in the Quran and hadif.
00:08:46.460 So, because I follow the hadif as well. 0.91
00:08:48.220 If I was the Quranist...
00:08:49.100 Has hadif changed? 0.92
00:08:50.700 No, hadif doesn't change. 0.50
00:08:52.140 No, hadif doesn't change.
00:08:53.580 Yeah, no, hadif doesn't change.
00:08:54.540 So, is it held to the same standard as the Quran? 0.90
00:08:58.780 Some of them, some of them are mutawatir. 0.98
00:09:00.780 So, they're hadif. 0.99
00:09:02.060 Denying hadif is as good as you denying your mother. 0.96
00:09:04.620 We have evidence. 0.97
00:09:05.180 like for example how do you know your mother's your mother how do you know your mother's your mother
00:09:12.060 that's what you've been told so it's testimony do you have any evidence that your mother's your mother
00:09:19.180 good which means which means you have faith that your mother's your mother
00:09:24.940 okay so can you okay okay then let's do it like this let's go with it
00:09:28.940 scientifically yeah empiricism and okay on what evidence do you have that your mother's your
00:09:32.380 mother like if i was asked that question like i had this question she asked me the same thing
00:09:36.700 she asked me the same thing so how do you know that i'm your mom yes um i feel like for me to
00:09:41.740 have faith in a claim or something i need to like care about it if you want to use the word faith
00:09:46.780 okay i need to care about it enough to go seek you know which is your mother i mean your mother
00:09:51.660 being your mother is the most important thing my my point is this you have faith as as an atheist
00:09:58.780 you have faith that your mother is your mother and you have no empirical evidence
00:10:03.660 i have i am content because she raised me okay good she's my mother good so you you have faith
00:10:13.420 that your mother is your mother but if i was to go down your paradigm as an atheist
00:10:17.580 who uses science as a yardstick you have no substantial evidence to prove and the same
00:10:21.980 applies to me by the way i don't know my mother's my mother i go based on faith i haven't done the
00:10:26.780 the dna test like i haven't gone have you done a dna test no because i don't like i need to care
00:10:31.980 about something enough but it's your mother i mean you care about your mother right yeah i care about
00:10:35.360 my mother but do i care the fact that she's my biological mother that's enough to go in
00:10:38.280 no but but the thing is okay good but what i'm saying is this to start if we're dealing with
00:10:42.600 um evidence because because your claim is mainly there is a lack of evidence could exist so i'm
00:10:48.640 just trying to say are we living up to that so the first thing i want to start off with is
00:10:51.800 if you don't know your mother's your mother and you have faith for that then i'm going to say
00:10:55.720 let's be consistent and apply if you apply the metric you're using for religion i don't think
00:11:01.560 it's comparable because religion is and it's a belief system that i'm meant to if i believe in
00:11:06.600 it fine i'll have no problem with like having my whole life belief in this and follow the religion
00:11:12.760 it's not i don't think it's comparable to my mom being but the idea is that i don't believe
00:11:16.280 driving principles so yeah how you think about something and how you derive the other thing
00:11:21.480 the principles you're using to do that that's what he's demonstrating yeah so i'm saying i'm
00:11:25.320 I'm saying your principles, you have to be consistent.
00:11:27.080 I think I need to care about something enough to actually critique it.
00:11:30.020 I don't really care if my mum is my biological problem.
00:11:32.660 All I know is that she raised me and that's nothing.
00:11:33.960 Okay, you're coming from a perspective of...
00:11:37.080 What I'm coming from is you have a principle,
00:11:40.420 but I'm trying to apply that principle to you
00:11:42.340 to see if your mother is your mother.
00:11:44.020 You're saying that doesn't matter.
00:11:44.880 I think you could give me a different example.
00:11:46.180 No, no, no. It's a good example.
00:11:48.100 If I asked you a fact, if I gave you a fact about...
00:11:50.800 But that's what I'm asking about facts.
00:11:52.200 If I gave you a fact about the Philippines.
00:11:53.140 Okay, how do you know Philippines exist?
00:11:55.320 how do you know philippines exist okay good i don't no that's the key i don't know if philippines
00:11:58.460 exist do you know if philippines exist but do you care i know it exists is it how do you know
00:12:02.640 because my kid's nanny is from there and she has a passport and she's been there and she sent me
00:12:07.180 that's that's that's testimony good perfect so what you just demonstrated no problem so good
00:12:12.580 so you have testimony from another individual who went there and showed you pictures that is
00:12:16.680 not evidence for me not for me i believe in testimony but using the sister's logic good
00:12:22.440 good no perfect that's my point i'm looking for consistency i'm saying we rely on testimony if
00:12:28.600 you deny testimony i'm going to say how do you know your mother's your mother how do you know
00:12:31.480 philippines exist how do you know there's mars have you been to mars so then everything is in
00:12:35.320 question all right good and especially with ai i can say they made an ai image it's called
00:12:39.320 philippines good so what i'm saying is i'm going back to basics so the back of the basics is the
00:12:43.240 following do you know philippines exist have you been there i would say yes it does but i don't
00:12:48.440 i don't care it's not a fact that i would if i really cared about and i really want to prove
00:12:52.920 oh yes does the philippines exist i would go out and find out thinking if that if my whole
00:12:56.840 life depended on that okay good if it doesn't then why would i miss my whole life okay good
00:13:02.760 facts don't facts are not based on one's emotions i didn't ask okay i said oh sorry facts are not
00:13:10.840 based on emotion for example if i said if you said to me ali if you go through a wall you will hit
00:13:15.800 your nose i'm like listen i don't care about anything emotional i'm going to go through the
00:13:18.840 wall you're like ali yeah no no but my sister what you're saying no no sister you're you're 0.53
00:13:24.120 your sister you're saying i don't care and i'm saying facts also don't care facts do not care
00:13:32.520 no no but sister because you don't care about something does not mean
00:13:36.120 the truth element goes away like for example do you agree that i can't walk through that wall
00:13:41.400 You not caring
00:13:44.020 I don't care enough for you to go and prove it to me
00:13:45.660 No, no 0.89
00:13:46.100 Sister, sister
00:13:47.600 You not caring is irrelevant to the equation
00:13:50.620 Him being able to argue with me
00:13:52.660 No, no, but you
00:13:53.100 No, but you not caring
00:13:54.960 Sister, sister
00:13:56.260 You
00:13:56.580 Look, look, okay
00:13:57.160 No, no, sister, sister, one second
00:13:58.680 I'm going to demonstrate you
00:14:00.120 One second, one second, one second
00:14:01.420 I'm going to demonstrate to you
00:14:02.460 Do you care if I can go through this wall or not?
00:14:04.400 No
00:14:04.480 Okay, I'm going to try it
00:14:05.620 No, no, no, I'm trying to try it
00:14:07.040 No, no, no, no, no
00:14:08.060 One second, one second, one second
00:14:08.800 Look, one second
00:14:09.980 Here's the wall
00:14:10.900 Can I have the camera please?
00:14:12.820 You said you don't care. I'm just gonna go not face first side will
00:14:18.780 I'm gonna try again
00:14:20.460 Okay, now you caring and not caring doesn't take from the fact that I couldn't go through the war
00:14:26.800 It's irrelevant. So what I'm trying to say is this my sister
00:14:29.980 You need caring or not caring doesn't take away for example
00:14:33.840 You agree science has methods that we use to do science for example
00:14:39.140 need stability uniformity and regularity to do science for example when i it's not general it's
00:14:44.580 a principle using science to establish science yeah there has to be regularity uniformity and
00:14:49.060 stability no sister it's not general i'm just i'm just i'm just trying to imagine if i if every time
00:14:57.220 i grabbed this book it turned into a monkey if every time i grabbed it it disappeared if every
00:15:02.900 time i grab this it just exploded there is irregular you know yes and good and there's
00:15:09.860 no stability we cannot do science because you know why every time i grab the book something
00:15:15.140 bizarre happens spontaneous happens we can never do science therefore science will come and say
00:15:21.220 okay can ali go through a wall based on this and that ali cannot go for a wall now if i come and
00:15:26.980 say yeah but i don't care if you can go they're like we don't care about your care or not caring
00:15:32.180 we're doing science and science says a human being cannot go through a wall your your emotions of
00:15:37.860 caring or not caring is irrelevant to the equation so when you keep saying i don't care i don't care
00:15:43.620 i'm seeing the following you have not done dna to establish your mother's your mother correct
00:15:48.740 perfect there's a possibility your mother could not be your mother
00:15:53.380 good you don't care about it neither do i look i don't care you don't care however you have to
00:15:57.700 to be consistent how and say okay that means that i have faith that my mother is my mother
00:16:04.240 which means no no good good she's she's or she's not no no i know i know but the fact here is now
00:16:11.620 do we have solid established scientific fact that your mother's your mother perfect so now
00:16:17.180 i want to apply that to the creator now what is the most rational logical example
00:16:23.680 uh um explanation does does my does my mom being my mom me does my belief in my mom being my mom
00:16:32.720 when i say i care about it this is what i'm going to say yeah this is my belief in my mom being my
00:16:36.240 mom yeah will that potentially send me to hell or heaven no no no no i'm not i'm not that's not my
00:16:41.200 concern no no no i know but it's like isn't hell or heaven i'm not saying necessarily yeah i'm saying
00:16:44.560 hell or heaven will it determine my like the afterlife no no but my belief in islam does so
00:16:49.840 so it's much more weighted 0.77
00:16:50.700 and that's what I mean
00:16:51.260 if I care enough
00:16:52.060 to go test it out.
00:16:52.940 Good, good, good.
00:16:53.720 That's what I mean.
00:16:54.360 No, no, no, I know, I know.
00:16:55.440 Your example of your mother
00:16:56.540 was not to determine...
00:16:58.120 Huh?
00:16:58.600 Sorry. 0.87
00:16:59.500 The example of your mother, 0.99
00:17:01.360 your mother being your mother, 0.85
00:17:02.600 was not to prove 0.95
00:17:03.640 what matters or not.
00:17:04.600 I understand what you're saying.
00:17:05.780 My mother being my mother
00:17:06.700 is not a hellfire 0.99
00:17:09.300 or gender matter.
00:17:11.140 Which is why I'm saying 0.98
00:17:11.900 I could.
00:17:12.060 Good, good, exactly.
00:17:13.000 I understand that.
00:17:13.960 But I'm proving an example
00:17:15.360 to show you that
00:17:16.140 as a person who's atheist,
00:17:18.060 you have faith.
00:17:19.120 I'm agnostic.
00:17:21.620 Okay, you're agnostic.
00:17:22.720 Okay, sorry, sorry, forgive me, forgive me.
00:17:24.180 As an agnostic, again, you're using, agnosticism means what?
00:17:28.020 You believe that there's some kind of a power there, but it's not personal.
00:17:32.700 It's that I don't know.
00:17:34.040 Okay, good.
00:17:34.640 I don't know, but agnosticism is that you agree that there's some kind of a force there.
00:17:40.220 Okay, if you look at agnosticism, it's basically believing that there is some kind of an agency.
00:17:48.160 you can call it matter
00:17:49.380 you can call it something else
00:17:50.700 yes
00:17:51.380 so
00:17:51.720 do you believe that
00:17:53.340 or are you saying
00:17:53.620 I don't even believe that
00:17:54.340 so
00:17:55.140 we're not able to know
00:17:56.620 there's a God 1.00
00:17:57.000 atheists will tell you 0.98
00:17:57.740 that there's no God 1.00
00:17:58.340 I say that
00:17:59.180 we're not really able to know
00:18:00.300 we're not able to know
00:18:01.820 ok alright
00:18:02.780 let's establish
00:18:03.280 if we are able to know
00:18:04.140 or not know
00:18:04.500 ok good
00:18:04.900 do you agree
00:18:05.880 that
00:18:06.560 we are dependent beings
00:18:08.460 sorry
00:18:09.160 do you agree
00:18:09.920 that we are dependent beings
00:18:11.020 dependent
00:18:13.700 meaning
00:18:14.000 ok
00:18:14.420 we're contingent beings
00:18:15.880 meaning
00:18:16.180 we require
00:18:17.440 on something else
00:18:18.120 for our own survival for example yes if you go okay good so i'll give you an example from argument
00:18:24.400 from contingency this will break this down for you there are three kinds of existence there is
00:18:29.760 an impossible existence there is a contingent existence and there is a necessary existence
00:18:34.900 i'll give you an example for each of them so they make sense to you an impossible existence is the
00:18:39.040 following a married bachelor yeah it's an impossible existence a square a square with
00:18:47.000 three sides can you get a square with three sides perfect it's an impossible existence good now
00:18:52.360 we're left with two other existence contingent and necessary so contingent is dependent in a
00:18:59.160 nutshell the synonym is dependent it depends on something else for its existence now do you agree
00:19:05.000 as human beings we are dependent on food water shelter sleep etc good now do you agree that we
00:19:12.120 We require, we rely on water.
00:19:14.800 Good.
00:19:15.480 Do you agree that our planet Earth requires on a gravitational force?
00:19:20.100 Yeah.
00:19:20.560 Good.
00:19:20.800 And the sun being a specific distance away,
00:19:22.720 if it was any closer, we might burn any further away, we might...
00:19:26.180 That's not true.
00:19:27.180 That's not true.
00:19:27.700 It changes.
00:19:28.900 So, let me just get this right.
00:19:30.280 So, if the sun was closer...
00:19:31.780 The Earth changes.
00:19:33.680 Okay, good.
00:19:34.240 But so, would you agree that if the sun was closer, we'll be hotter?
00:19:38.200 Yes.
00:19:39.100 What do you mean closer?
00:19:40.140 We're like over here?
00:19:40.880 What do you mean near over here?
00:19:41.560 No, no, I know we're orbiting the sun.
00:19:43.820 Yeah, if we were closer to the sun.
00:19:45.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:46.880 But the sun has its own orbit as well.
00:19:50.920 The sun has its own...
00:19:52.080 Huh?
00:19:53.340 Well, it has its own orbit.
00:19:54.500 I don't know, but it has its own orbit.
00:19:56.260 The sun has its own orbit.
00:19:58.840 The sun is centered.
00:19:59.820 Hey, Siri, does the sun have its own orbit?
00:20:04.580 The sun orbits the center of the Milky Way.
00:20:07.180 It has its own orbit.
00:20:08.600 So, I didn't know by the way.
00:20:09.900 I'm just checking just to see if I'm right.
00:20:11.380 because you made me you made me you made me doubt myself for a second good good i didn't know his
00:20:16.340 well i didn't know i was sure but i was not that sure now i'm sure so now i know it's me okay if
00:20:20.180 you guys don't know as well okay good so now would you agree sister that if the sun was a little bit
00:20:24.260 closer or we was closer whatever you want whatever makes happy yeah that's fine we will burn
00:20:30.500 no we will not burn so what would happen to us so so so i've already come close to the sun at
00:20:39.380 certain times of no no no i'm just saying if it was periodically or come closer no that's fine
00:20:46.100 but if it was more closer if a certain degree yeah that's not like a small amount like we
00:20:51.300 move like yeah yeah that's what i'm saying so do you agree that if we was closer we'll burn
00:20:55.220 Closer by a much larger extent
00:20:59.580 Whatever you like to call it
00:21:00.560 Just closer we'll burn
00:21:01.620 We're essentially in the Goldilocks region
00:21:03.060 So if it was to be closer by a certain percentage of degree
00:21:05.860 It would burn
00:21:06.580 If it would go further out, it would freeze
00:21:08.120 I mean, it's common logic
00:21:09.260 It's like you're having a hot lamp here
00:21:11.560 The closer I get burned, the further I go out, it'll be cooler
00:21:13.760 Does that make sense?
00:21:15.980 It does not make sense
00:21:17.000 Yes, I think it already is closer sometimes
00:21:21.720 It's already further away
00:21:22.520 It still remains in that Goldilocks zone
00:21:24.940 Can I ask you
00:21:26.660 Can I ask you a question
00:21:28.680 How old are you?
00:21:30.560 This is how it comes across to me
00:21:32.900 Forgive me
00:21:33.300 But you seem a little bit defensive
00:21:35.260 Like
00:21:35.740 I'm just trying to give logical arguments
00:21:38.920 But even that is just really taking you
00:21:40.740 It's common
00:21:42.420 What I'm just trying to say is
00:21:43.280 I just want to
00:21:43.860 When you're faced with me
00:21:44.840 I want it to make 100% sense
00:21:46.660 No, no, no
00:21:47.280 But the thing is
00:21:48.320 Contingent, necessary
00:21:49.960 If possible
00:21:50.460 I need to make sure
00:21:50.980 I understand
00:21:51.340 No, that's fine sister
00:21:52.220 I understand sister
00:21:53.620 but things that are very common sense you're you're you're fighting it like me see like for
00:21:58.020 example me saying if we got closer to the sun will burn you're like no that's not true
00:22:01.220 that's just not a true fact okay let me just understand so so so so so sister there is fire
00:22:08.020 okay let me just look at this if there is if i stay one step closer to the fire am i gonna burn
00:22:11.540 no sister i said if you got hotter it'll get hotter and the closer i'll get it will get more
00:22:16.660 hotter the temperature will go up right okay but if i if i is that the universe is like all the
00:22:22.740 okay okay if I go okay logically if I get the closer to the fire would I burn
00:22:33.360 or not burn would I get cool okay okay good good no no no you still can it's
00:22:38.520 talking there are fires that can it's not semantic sister it just seems up to me 0.82
00:22:44.280 you're just avoiding yes I will burn sister is fired you know if I there was
00:22:51.480 fire brigade here do you know how fast fire spreads do you know how fast fire spreads and 0.84
00:22:55.520 we're talking about the sun million times the size of earth please sister please if you get closer
00:23:02.300 to something hot as the sun you will burn it's it's simple common sense now the question i'm
00:23:09.860 asking is the following we depend on water and other elements and other things our planet earth
00:23:15.600 depends on gravitational force and the sun being a specific distance away the sun always around the
00:23:21.460 galaxy now these are things that depend on one another for his existence yeah you cannot have
00:23:28.360 and please listen carefully an infinite regress of dependent things i repeat one more time you
00:23:35.840 cannot have good you cannot have an infinite regress of dependent things this thing that
00:23:43.080 depends on that thing eternally because you will never have us here in the first place it's called
00:23:47.960 fallacy of infinite regress in logic and rational philosophy infinite regress is you cannot have
00:23:53.560 for example if i said to you i'll tell you no it's not just saying it it's logical and rational
00:23:57.640 sister if you listen if i said if i said if i said i'm going to give you the quran
00:24:01.640 but before i give you i need to ask somebody behind me if this goes on forever would i ever
00:24:06.040 give you the quran no i don't think that's the point is that it goes on for infinity
00:24:13.000 We ask you for permission. 0.99
00:24:15.000 Yeah, so I'm saying I asked someone that asked somebody forever and it goes eternally backwards.
00:24:21.000 Because there's infinite people?
00:24:22.000 Infinite people. Would I ever give you the Quran?
00:24:24.000 No. 1.00
00:24:25.000 Good, that's my point. So meaning that...
00:24:27.000 I said no, yes.
00:24:28.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I cannot give you this Quran because if I had to ask someone behind me and that went on eternity, 0.96
00:24:34.000 I would not be able to give you the Quran.
00:24:36.000 So just the way our planet Earth exists and it is dependent,
00:24:39.360 you cannot have an infinite regress of things that depend on each other eternally.
00:24:43.680 There has to be a point where everything started.
00:24:47.340 So that being that we talk about is this.
00:24:49.860 In a question, the universe, is it dependent or independent?
00:24:58.280 Would you say the universe is dependent or independent?
00:25:03.740 Maybe everything is dependent.
00:25:06.000 okay good so i agree with you i believe everything within our universe is dependent now if everything
00:25:12.880 within our universe is dependent that shows that our universe is dependent because it's made of
00:25:16.880 dependent things so the question i ask is this what does the universe depend on
00:25:24.320 you don't need to be a physicist
00:25:25.120 I would agree that it depends on something else, remember? That's also dependent.
00:25:39.120 So the only way the universe came to being is that it depends on something that has to be independent, self-sufficient.
00:25:47.120 So that being that gave rise to the universe has to be independent and self-sufficient.
00:25:53.120 if it is dependent then we go back to the question
00:25:55.080 then what does that thing depend on
00:25:57.040 so therefore
00:25:58.380 because you cannot have the infinite regress of dependent things
00:26:01.040 that independent being
00:26:03.040 gave rise to the universe
00:26:04.300 that is the independent being that
00:26:07.020 created everything
00:26:08.460 logically and rationally
00:26:10.420 so that independent being you have to
00:26:15.040 agree has to exist
00:26:16.500 because otherwise you will not have the universe
00:26:18.940 does the rationale follow
00:26:21.400 yeah so so so so so
00:26:27.160 yes there's no pressure to understand it straight away yeah there's no pressure all i'm just saying
00:26:36.860 is this that independent being if it exists which we have evidence to have demonstrated
00:26:42.220 for example another one i'll just back up from nothing nothing comes you agree that the universe
00:26:47.460 began to exist okay okay good perfect so can you give me the theory sorry so can you give me a theory
00:27:03.700 that combats that or goes against that yeah a theory majority of scientists believe that the
00:27:11.540 universe yeah they believe in the big bang because because of the red shift because of the red shift
00:27:15.940 They believe in the Big Bang.
00:27:17.940 It's a widely accepted theory.
00:27:19.940 But it's not saying that the universe started here.
00:27:22.940 No, the universe started here.
00:27:24.940 You're saying the universe at the beginning.
00:27:26.940 The atheists believe that the Big Bang and that's not...
00:27:29.940 I'm pretty sure most people believe the Big Bang existed.
00:27:31.940 Not exactly, good. The Big Bang is...
00:27:33.940 The atheists don't believe that was the beginning of the universe.
00:27:35.940 No, they do.
00:27:36.940 Atheists, they believe, they look at redshift.
00:27:38.940 And based on redshift, they reverse it.
00:27:40.940 It's like a balloon that's gonna...
00:27:42.940 So when they reverse it...
00:27:43.940 It's the hot dance floor.
00:27:44.940 Perfect.
00:27:45.940 That's not saying that it's the beginning.
00:27:46.940 That's just saying that's what happened before that.
00:27:47.940 We don't know what happened before that.
00:27:48.940 No, no, no.
00:27:49.940 But then you're making another claim actually.
00:27:50.940 What's the only claim?
00:27:51.940 What was before that beginning then?
00:27:52.940 Yeah.
00:27:53.940 Yeah, we don't know.
00:27:54.940 No, no, no.
00:27:55.940 I don't know.
00:27:56.940 I don't know it's not an answer.
00:27:57.940 I don't know it's a cop out.
00:27:58.940 I don't know it's a cop out.
00:27:59.940 I don't know it's a cop out.
00:28:00.940 So therefore when we don't know we're just going to...
00:28:01.940 No, no, no.
00:28:02.940 Your answer there is not acceptable.
00:28:03.940 What's the answer?
00:28:04.940 In science...
00:28:05.940 In science we're not to know stuff.
00:28:06.940 That's the whole point.
00:28:13.940 I don't know.
00:28:14.780 It's faith.
00:28:15.600 You're basically saying I have faith.
00:28:16.640 Now, that dense, that dense, by the way.
00:28:19.000 No, I'm pretty sure that Big Bang says it happened.
00:28:19.820 Good, good, good.
00:28:20.980 That Big Bang, they say it's the size of-
00:28:21.900 How am I having faith in something that I don't know?
00:28:23.120 Yes, but you said it's not the start, right?
00:28:24.800 Huh?
00:28:25.620 You said it's not the start.
00:28:26.460 I said it's not necessarily the start, no.
00:28:27.580 No, no, it's-
00:28:28.420 Not necessarily the start.
00:28:29.260 Okay, now that's going on what?
00:28:31.380 Going on logic.
00:28:32.220 There must be something-
00:28:33.060 No, no, no, no, no, going on what?
00:28:35.500 What are you basing that on?
00:28:36.940 Logic.
00:28:37.780 Because just because something happened,
00:28:39.460 just because something, you know,
00:28:40.580 The big bang happened, but nothing came forward, nothing in a big effect doesn't make it happen.
00:28:44.380 Okay, that's called fate. You're just basing on whatever.
00:28:47.580 It's called the gap of...
00:28:48.580 You're guessing and saying, I don't know, it might be this, it might be that.
00:28:51.580 Because logically, when you have an event, sometimes something's happened before it.
00:28:54.580 Okay, good, good, you're using cause and effect, right?
00:28:56.580 No, no, no, good. Cause and effect points to higher power.
00:28:59.580 So good, yeah, so the big...
00:29:01.580 You see the effect?
00:29:02.580 The big bang...
00:29:03.580 It's more like, this event happened, something happened before it, something happened.
00:29:06.580 I mean, something happened.
00:29:07.580 Excellent, excellent, something was before it.
00:29:09.580 There was something before it.
00:29:12.580 Excellent.
00:29:13.580 So there's something before it.
00:29:14.580 I'm not saying Big Bang is a star point and I don't think...
00:29:16.580 Fantastic. No problem. Excellent.
00:29:18.580 But good. So you agree that before or after, something gave rise to it?
00:29:24.580 I believe.
00:29:25.580 I don't know what happened before.
00:29:27.580 No, no, no. One second. One second.
00:29:28.580 One second.
00:29:29.580 Can something come from nothing?
00:29:34.580 No, I don't think that's...
00:29:36.580 No, no, no. One second.
00:29:38.580 Can something come from nothing?
00:29:40.440 I don't think so.
00:29:41.920 No, it's an impossibility.
00:29:42.980 No, even I don't think so.
00:29:43.820 If he was in Einstein's class and he said, I don't think so, he'll kick you out of the class.
00:29:47.080 From nothing, nothing comes.
00:29:48.720 Nothing is the absence of something.
00:29:51.560 Not a single thing.
00:29:53.760 Zero can never give you one.
00:29:55.700 So, the cure is this.
00:29:57.400 If you say the Big Bang, this explosion happened,
00:30:00.120 we have to ask a very rational logical question.
00:30:02.460 Before it or after it, it cannot come from nothing.
00:30:06.220 Something caused it.
00:30:07.700 Good.
00:30:08.060 so the question is the following it goes back to the thing that's something that caused it
00:30:12.820 yes it cannot have it has to be an uncreated being because if it's a created being the question is
00:30:21.200 then who created that being that caused the big bang another created being okay good then what
00:30:25.300 caused that being that caused that being then you have the fallacy of infinite regress again
00:30:28.600 good so that means from nothing nothing comes something caused the big bang to happen now
00:30:34.640 Now, logically and rationally, do you agree that we have information in our universe?
00:30:39.140 Yes, we have information.
00:30:41.140 Good. Are you made out of DNA?
00:30:43.140 A certain time.
00:30:44.140 I have a DNA myself, yeah.
00:30:46.140 Sorry, I need you to go to this.
00:30:48.140 Give me that.
00:30:49.140 Continue, Mian Tishan, we need to go to that shop.
00:30:52.140 What shop?
00:30:53.140 Shop.
00:30:54.140 The restaurant.
00:30:56.140 You want me to go?
00:30:57.140 No, no, no.
00:30:58.140 Him.
00:30:59.140 He needs to go.
00:31:00.140 This is, is it important?
00:31:01.140 Yeah, very important.
00:31:02.140 At one point, do you know how we found out?
00:31:05.140 What, what, what?
00:31:07.140 Okay, just take a photo.
00:31:11.140 Just give me one second, sorry.
00:31:15.140 Okay, so where did you leave the conversation?
00:31:19.140 A dependent universe is based on something, right?
00:31:22.140 How do you know that?
00:31:23.140 It's dependent upon something.
00:31:24.140 There must have been something before the universe.
00:31:26.140 Like rising up to the universe that we know to exist.
00:31:31.140 yeah so you know you know you know you know the universe has got a beginning isn't it
00:31:37.940 the universe has got a beginning you know but but either either that it came out of nothing
00:31:46.500 and what's nothing
00:31:49.700 it's the absence of everything it's the absence of everything so we can rule that out
00:31:55.380 so since it has got a beginning it means it has got a cause there must be a causation and effect
00:32:04.860 how no but okay but it's not my word it's the scientists no but maybe i'm hearing you a bit
00:32:15.900 differently now the beginning of things right something that you don't believe that
00:32:20.900 I don't mean that everything has to happen in the beginning or the next thing.
00:32:22.900 Yeah, so the start of the universe is not the start of everything or something, right?
00:32:26.900 Because then you're thinking before that was nothing.
00:32:30.900 Is that correct? No.
00:32:32.900 Okay, so you're saying the beginning of the universe is not the start of everything.
00:32:36.900 The universe is the start of everything.
00:32:40.900 Meaning there can be things outside the universe?
00:32:43.900 No, I'm just agreeing with the idea that everything has to have a beginning.
00:32:47.900 Yeah, that's one thing to say. Everything must have a beginning.
00:32:50.900 And I'll ask you exactly the time frame it was given.
00:32:53.900 Erm...
00:32:54.900 Give an example.
00:32:55.900 I'm not sure.
00:32:56.900 You're not sure?
00:32:57.900 I can't think of one.
00:32:58.900 I don't know.
00:32:59.900 Okay, that's just one example.
00:33:00.900 I was tall when you hit it.
00:33:02.900 Erm...
00:33:03.900 Like, I don't know.
00:33:04.900 The tangible idea that I can give you right now is going to say that maybe something that
00:33:08.900 might not have a beginning.
00:33:09.900 Well, that's fine.
00:33:10.900 That's what it's talking about.
00:33:11.900 Sorry, sir.
00:33:12.900 Yeah, no, it's fine.
00:33:13.900 I've got science.
00:33:15.900 No, no, no, but they say not to say anything, it's a surprise, so that's why, it's a good surprise.
00:33:24.900 The lack of emphasis doesn't necessarily mean it's not true.
00:33:28.900 I'm saying if you want to believe in this parameter, everyone has a beginning, then how do you prove it?
00:33:32.900 Scientists do say that.
00:33:35.900 No, no, no, there is no scientists on the planet that say that there is not a beginning to every cause and effect.
00:33:43.900 It's not an effect. It's not an effect.
00:33:45.900 It's not an effect.
00:33:47.900 Should I be honest with you? My assessment of you?
00:33:49.900 Should I be brutally with you?
00:33:51.900 No, no, no. Let me tell you. I'll tell you why I need an assessment.
00:33:53.900 Because I deal with it. There's doctors that deal with people who have physical ailments.
00:33:55.900 Don't have a fullness.
00:33:57.900 I don't want a patient.
00:33:59.900 No, no, no. I'll be honest with you, sister. I can't be straight to the point.
00:34:01.900 I don't think there's a need for that, actually.
00:34:03.900 Say that again.
00:34:05.900 Need for what, sister?
00:34:07.900 I'm not giving a diagnosis. I'm just telling you, after talking to you,
00:34:09.900 my breakdown of what I think is going on.
00:34:11.900 think is going on. I'm not saying it in a rude way. So you can look at me and say, my assessment of you is
00:34:16.040 you're someone that needs to improve in your patience. I'll say, yeah, you're right, 100%.
00:34:20.220 I don't believe the issue is logical. I don't think the issue is logical.
00:34:24.760 Because you know why? I don't think... No, no, no. I don't believe the issue is logical.
00:34:29.040 I believe something is deeper. Because you know what it is? Anything you say that
00:34:34.700 you're atheist, slash you believe in science, but everything we put towards you,
00:34:39.540 you just you're going totally against it like anything rational logical like
00:34:43.140 something cannot come with nothing and you're very hesitant and i'm thinking
00:34:46.500 i'm hesitant because i want to fully digest it
00:34:49.060 no but sister but you don't do but you don't do that
00:34:53.940 before i commit to it and say yes good but sister you don't do that with your
00:34:56.820 own worldview like for example no no no you don't
00:35:01.780 sister look you are made out of dna yeah i have dna myself yes
00:35:06.580 good good good is dn well dna is your genetic makeup so yeah exactly do you see what i mean
00:35:13.300 look a simple word i say you're just like oh it's it's very simple you're made of the
00:35:17.220 what could you say is yes i'm made out of dna it doesn't mean you are made out what are you made
00:35:20.580 out okay what are you made out what are you made out no i know cells but cells have what dna inside
00:35:28.820 there you go see do you get it you see it's simple a simple question to ask we turn it to
00:35:32.740 Something so big.
00:35:33.800 It's just the way you said it.
00:35:35.420 But you're made out of DNA.
00:35:36.900 We're made out of DNA. 0.99
00:35:38.140 You sound very black. 1.00
00:35:40.860 Yeah, like everything. 1.00
00:35:41.980 If I said to you, if I said to you, my shirt is white, you'd be like, no, it's not white.
00:35:46.900 Where are you from?
00:35:47.760 Huh? 0.94
00:35:48.380 I guess it's white. 0.91
00:35:49.760 No, that's what I'm trying to say. 0.96
00:35:51.800 We're good.
00:35:52.500 That's what I'm trying to say.
00:35:53.720 So, so, so, does DNA have information?
00:35:57.760 How predictable they were.
00:35:59.900 Okay.
00:36:00.420 Does information look my intelligence?
00:36:02.740 so information doesn't require intelligence can you give me an example of something that has
00:36:10.120 information that it doesn't require intelligence
00:36:11.560 yeah that's that's yeah one second do you agree there's information in this did somebody write
00:36:24.440 this good so information requires intelligence yes so information here requires an information
00:36:32.720 received by someone else
00:36:33.840 or do you just mean
00:36:34.340 because again
00:36:36.020 if a book fell
00:36:36.520 on the floor
00:36:37.280 and it made a sound
00:36:37.800 the information is
00:36:38.480 that the book fell
00:36:38.960 no no no
00:36:39.620 that's not the information
00:36:40.400 the information
00:36:41.140 no it's not
00:36:42.040 a book falling
00:36:43.600 is not information
00:36:44.300 a book falling
00:36:44.880 no sister
00:36:46.500 the information
00:36:47.280 is in the book
00:36:48.160 the book falling
00:36:49.280 is not the information
00:36:49.880 nobody will come and say
00:36:50.540 oh did you see that information
00:36:51.660 no we saw that book falling
00:36:53.040 now
00:36:53.980 but it's information
00:36:54.900 that the book is spelled on the floor
00:36:55.860 that's what I'm saying
00:36:56.220 no no
00:36:56.800 when you say information
00:36:57.720 do you mean it in the text
00:36:58.440 no no
00:36:58.860 I'm talking about
00:36:59.740 do you agree
00:37:00.660 that there is text here
00:37:01.640 yes
00:37:02.340 Good. Text, as you can see, it's not gibberish.
00:37:05.340 This requires an intelligent author or being that gave rise to this.
00:37:11.340 Your phone is made out of algebra.
00:37:14.340 Yes?
00:37:16.340 What's funny?
00:37:18.340 Your phone is made out of code.
00:37:23.340 Can I jump in? 0.99
00:37:25.340 Can I just finish this one, Habibi? 0.99
00:37:28.340 So, let me just get this right.
00:37:31.340 Your phone having information is semantics.
00:37:34.780 You said, my phone is made of algebra.
00:37:36.360 I said it.
00:37:37.060 I didn't ever say it's made of algebra.
00:37:39.080 I said it's just...
00:37:40.560 Yes, and there's algorithm as well.
00:37:43.520 Yes.
00:37:44.140 So, do you agree that an intelligence...
00:37:45.980 I don't think this is worse.
00:37:46.960 Yeah.
00:37:48.520 I think it's not worse.
00:37:49.560 Depending if it's made of algebra.
00:37:51.180 The point is...
00:37:52.360 Tag me in.
00:37:52.960 Tag me in.
00:37:53.580 I'm going to make this point and give it to SQ.
00:37:57.600 Yes, yes.
00:37:58.520 Give me, give me.
00:37:59.120 Let me just make this point and I'm going to give it to SQ.
00:38:00.800 Just this point
00:38:02.800 Your DNA has information
00:38:05.560 Information requires intelligence
00:38:07.640 I'm actually gobsmacked bro
00:38:14.040 So the rumor is
00:38:18.520 There's a rumor going around
00:38:20.760 There's a rumor
00:38:21.560 That I've met a hijabi atheist
00:38:24.360 Is this what the rumor
00:38:27.800 Is this true?
00:38:28.920 No
00:38:29.140 Okay good
00:38:30.040 So where are you standing on this?
00:38:32.040 Why is people saying you're an atheist of some sort?
00:38:34.540 Because I don't see that and I don't know anything. 0.80
00:38:37.040 Okay, this is insane.
00:38:39.040 I've never been here to do this before, so it's insane.
00:38:41.040 What's your name, first and foremost?
00:38:45.040 My name is SQ, right?
00:38:47.040 So, what's happening over here?
00:38:50.040 What's the issue? What are they saying?
00:38:52.040 You're saying you're an atheist?
00:38:53.040 I'd like to think I've been quite polite, if I haven't, I'm sorry. 1.00
00:38:56.040 No, I'm listening.
00:38:57.040 Yes
00:39:19.200 Validate me spending my entire life dedicating my 1.00
00:39:27.040 So why is Islam irrefutable to the truth? 0.96
00:39:31.040 That's the main question.
00:39:33.040 From that, there were just more thought about it.
00:39:37.040 There were just other questions that I had.
00:39:41.040 Let's start with one and let's see if we can move on to the other.
00:39:44.040 I want to be very clear with you sister.
00:39:47.040 I do not have the answers to all of your questions.
00:39:49.040 Only the Creator does.
00:39:51.040 We obviously, you would know this and the good thing about this is that you already have a foundation of Allah and that name itself.
00:39:56.040 that name itself right so it's not like I'm speaking something strange you
00:39:59.460 would have an idea of what I'm talking about when I say Allah correct so it is
00:40:03.780 only Allah who gives guidance it doesn't matter how eloquent I might be it doesn't
00:40:07.500 matter how good at explaining I might be if Allah doesn't choose to open it for
00:40:11.440 you or for me it won't work that's because we believe one of Allah's name
00:40:16.080 is Al-Mu'min have you ever heard that name before Al-Mu'min means the one who
00:40:21.040 establishes the faith. That means that guidance and misguidance is all both from Allah. So can we
00:40:27.520 first get on the same page that your intention is actually to get closer to Allah?
00:40:31.540 My intention is to discover the truth.
00:40:35.240 Discover the truth.
00:40:35.980 And if that happens to be Allah, that happens to be Allah.
00:40:37.820 No problem. So it is a fair thing for us to say that both of our intention, that may Allah,
00:40:43.120 may this creator, whoever this creator, may he guide us to the truth.
00:40:46.180 Why does it not make sense?
00:40:47.260 Yes.
00:40:48.200 Say ameen, amen, something.
00:40:49.920 Ameen.
00:40:50.240 I mean there we go right so that's what the first thing is we have to be on the 0.63
00:40:53.180 same frequency of the truth and how we're trying to seek the Soviet so obviously
00:40:57.920 do you believe there is a creative assert the basics you don't believe that
00:41:01.000 there's a creative assert the basics I don't think that we can know if there is one
00:41:04.380 but I'm more inclined to believe that there is one
00:41:07.100 that there is not okay but there isn't so so you would believe that you tell this
00:41:12.920 whole setup just did itself who's taking the bigger risk no because I can see you
00:41:18.000 The men who set this up.
00:41:19.720 Someone, not even us, right?
00:41:21.220 It could have been someone before us who came there, right?
00:41:22.860 Because I've been, since I was young.
00:41:23.940 But what tells you that someone set this up?
00:41:27.980 Nobody tells me it.
00:41:29.140 Just from when I'm young, I'm able to observe the world around me.
00:41:32.160 And I've been taught that when there's a building, a builder built.
00:41:36.100 That kind of thing.
00:41:36.800 So when there's a building, there's a builder.
00:41:39.480 Yes.
00:41:40.300 That's what I've been taught when I was young.
00:41:41.400 So you don't believe that now?
00:41:43.880 No, I still agree to that.
00:41:45.800 Perfect. Let's get on the same page then. If there's a builder, there's a building.
00:41:50.360 If there's a building, I believe there's a building.
00:41:53.480 If there's a building, I believe there's a building.
00:41:55.820 No, no no. Let's not get deeper that it needs to be. This is not a trick question.
00:41:59.340 If there's a builder, there's a building.
00:42:02.820 If there's a builder? Do you mean there's a building?
00:42:04.740 If there's a builder....
00:42:06.240 If there's a building, there's a builder.
00:42:07.740 If there's a building, there's a builder.
00:42:09.600 There's a building I believe there's a builder.
00:42:12.960 Then we have to. We can't look forward.
00:42:15.680 a building there's a builder can we come to that there's a building necessary necessary truth i know
00:42:28.880 i'm not going to be as gracious as them with the time right they've tried it with you that's up to
00:42:33.360 them i'm just talking to you on this right if we cannot believe and agree on something that's so
00:42:38.560 simple as if there's a building there's a builder if there's a building i believe there's a building
00:42:42.880 which is I feel like some are going to know.
00:42:44.420 Sister, it's not even about what you believe.
00:42:46.340 It's just the factual truth.
00:42:49.300 If there's a building, there has to be someone that built it.
00:42:53.900 That's not even something confusing.
00:42:55.440 Even a child can understand that.
00:42:57.240 So can we come to that agreement?
00:42:59.800 I'll come to your agreement.
00:43:00.860 Not my agreement.
00:43:01.700 This is something you have to actually believe, sister.
00:43:03.860 I believe it.
00:43:04.700 That's what I said.
00:43:05.140 I said I believe it.
00:43:06.240 So if there's a building, that means there's a building.
00:43:08.840 That means behind that building, there was some type of design,
00:43:11.700 some type of thought process to erect that building.
00:43:15.700 Yes, because culturally I've been told that there are...
00:43:18.700 Not culturally, sister. Let's actually...
00:43:21.700 There is an architect. That's a factual thing.
00:43:23.700 An architect is a real thing. It has nothing to do with your culture.
00:43:25.700 It has nothing to do with your upbringing.
00:43:27.700 If you were in a room by yourself, when you were younger, when you were a baby...
00:43:33.700 Sister, we're not babies now. We're adults.
00:43:36.700 Let's talk about adults.
00:43:38.700 And you're raised until 20 years old and you leave and you see the building and I'll ask you, does this building have a build-up?
00:43:44.700 What would you say?
00:43:45.700 I don't know, because I've not been in that position, but you're likely to say, I don't know.
00:43:48.700 A child would say yes.
00:43:50.700 A child who's been on fire.
00:43:51.700 You would say, I don't know who had built it, but I know someone built it.
00:43:55.700 I don't need to know who it was.
00:43:57.700 You're a baby and you haven't seen anything in the universe.
00:43:59.700 You've not come into contact with anyone.
00:44:01.700 Sister, but you're not a baby anymore.
00:44:03.700 Yeah, I know. I'm saying the hypothetical is that you're a baby.
00:44:07.700 You're a big baby, but you're not a little baby anymore, okay?
00:44:10.020 My hypothetical is that you're a baby and you grow up, and you come up, you've not seen anything in the world.
00:44:14.300 But what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to strip the cultural norms, right?
00:44:16.660 Cultural, everything that you've learned from society.
00:44:18.820 From my third-party just evaluation of this, you're trying to hold on to an identity that you've developed for yourself.
00:44:26.120 That I am this person who needs this, this, this, this.
00:44:28.960 I've asked you a simple question.
00:44:30.520 I've asked you a simple question.
00:44:31.820 If there's a building, does that mean that there's a building?
00:44:34.980 I do not need to know any hypotheticals.
00:44:37.380 There doesn't need to be, when you're a little baby...
00:44:39.980 Sister, sister, sister, sister.
00:44:41.180 I'm saying the same thing.
00:44:42.180 I'm saying your opinion.
00:44:43.180 I understand your view.
00:44:44.180 But you're trying to go to me in this hypothetical...
00:44:48.180 Like, you're trying to make it deeper than what it is.
00:44:50.180 No, no, no, I'm trying to make it deeper than what it is.
00:44:52.180 Is it deeper than what it is?
00:44:53.180 There's two things.
00:44:53.580 You can believe that there is a builder for your building.
00:44:57.580 Or you can know that there is...
00:44:59.580 So do you know that there's a builder?
00:45:00.980 Even if I know it, it's still my belief.
00:45:02.580 My knowing is my belief.
00:45:03.980 That's what I'm saying.
00:45:04.580 Facts are facts, sister.
00:45:06.180 There's a builder.
00:45:07.180 that's not a fact that there's a building
00:45:09.500 you just gave me the eye
00:45:12.600 explain the side eye
00:45:14.660 I don't want you to agree with me
00:45:19.680 you don't have to agree with me
00:45:20.540 you actually are free to leave this conversation
00:45:23.100 you understand what I'm saying
00:45:24.120 if you're saying that
00:45:27.080 if there's a building there has to be a builder
00:45:29.160 that's a fact
00:45:30.180 that's not a fact that someone built something
00:45:33.080 that's what I wouldn't believe
00:45:35.180 It's a fact.
00:45:39.180 I believe it's a fact.
00:45:41.180 Do you believe it's a fact or is it a fact?
00:45:43.180 I believe it's a fact.
00:45:45.180 So what's the difference between saying it's a fact versus I believe it's a fact?
00:45:49.180 So knowing that something is unconditionally true.
00:45:51.180 Yes, which I believe is unconditionally true.
00:45:53.180 Yeah, you believe it.
00:45:55.180 Do you believe it's unconditionally true?
00:45:57.180 So do you believe that it's unconditionally true that the building has a building?
00:46:01.180 I'm sorry to make this...
00:46:03.180 So it's unconditionally true.
00:46:05.340 Oh, I believe that.
00:46:06.680 But that's just because my belief doesn't really exist.
00:46:08.860 So just because you believe...
00:46:10.600 Okay, now you mentioned the word semantics before.
00:46:13.400 Semantics because I was...
00:46:14.780 What's happening from iPhones going on to algebra, did you say?
00:46:18.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:46:19.860 I'm not talking about...
00:46:20.660 I'm trying to be more rudimentary.
00:46:23.120 I'm trying to speak in a more rudimentary way,
00:46:25.100 so it's something basic.
00:46:26.120 If there's a building, there's a builder.
00:46:28.680 You're sort of dancing around the fact that...
00:46:31.600 Yeah, duh.
00:46:32.120 It's supposed to be a, duh, obviously, but you're, you're opposed to, we're actually a lot more than just a limited capacity, sister, because a fact is a fact. A fact has to be a fact, right? Like, if we can't establish the basic facts of life, like gravity is real, how can we move forward with anything? Like, that's why I can see your confusion.
00:46:56.060 If you cannot stand here and tell me that the building has a builder, I can totally see why you're confused.
00:47:03.300 I genuinely believe why you're confused.
00:47:07.060 The thing is, sister, your earrings, does it have someone who made it?
00:47:12.500 Have you seen the person who made it?
00:47:14.320 How do you know it's from her design?
00:47:15.860 Because from a young age, I've been taught that people make earrings.
00:47:19.440 Have you gone to the factory and seen someone make it?
00:47:21.740 So how do you believe that someone made it?
00:47:23.680 Have a nice day.
00:47:25.320 Sorry?
00:47:25.680 the problem you know why i brought so why do you how do you look look
00:47:29.280 okay the reason why we're getting frustrated
00:47:32.400 i'll be honest with you like with me no i'm no we are we are
00:47:35.120 i said we we no no we are because you know why let me tell you something
00:47:38.400 would you not get frustrated if you said to pass it to you i don't exist you're
00:47:41.200 speaking to your own
00:47:42.400 i don't get frustrated you're not frustrated okay okay okay i believe you're a
00:47:47.600 frog okay yeah yeah and you're green color by the way
00:47:51.520 yeah and i believe you live in mars there's someone controlling you you're
00:47:54.080 Okay, so this is actually a great example of what you said before about caring.
00:47:58.080 I don't care about the semen so I'm not going to care enough to prove to you. 0.99
00:48:00.080 No, no, no, no, but I'm saying I believe that you are a frog. 0.98
00:48:04.080 Okay, would you like me to disprove that to you? 1.00
00:48:06.080 Yes, I believe you're a frog and you have to disprove to me that you're a woman. 1.00
00:48:13.080 Do you know what a frog looks like? 1.00
00:48:15.080 No, not really, maybe I've made my imagination.
00:48:17.080 But from the imagination, my mind doesn't fit you.
00:48:20.080 So wait, wait, wait, wait, you don't know what a frog looks like but you think I don't like a frog.
00:48:23.080 Oh, okay, it's a frog.
00:48:24.360 Okay, frog, he pops, and some of them are green color.
00:48:28.360 Yeah, some of them have been long times.
00:48:30.240 Do you know what it looks like?
00:48:31.240 Yes.
00:48:32.240 So, do I follow that description?
00:48:33.520 Am I a frog?
00:48:34.520 Do I have green color?
00:48:35.520 Yeah.
00:48:36.040 Where are you seeing green color?
00:48:37.040 Yes, I don't know, I can see green color.
00:48:38.400 Really?
00:48:38.920 Yeah.
00:48:39.440 Okay, let's ask other people to see if they want to see green color.
00:48:41.360 No, no, let's not ask other green color.
00:48:42.360 I don't mean this to me, I mean it, like, I'm actually both playing here for you.
00:48:44.080 I believe we're in the Matrix, and all of them are on your side, so...
00:48:47.520 Okay?
00:48:48.520 And honestly, and I couldn't, I don't know if I could describe that to you, because...
00:48:52.560 Okay.
00:48:53.060 You can be in your imagination. 1.00
00:48:54.160 Okay, but it's fine you being a frock. 1.00
00:48:56.260 I don't think you should be ashamed of it. 1.00
00:48:57.660 You say you're a frock, and it's fine.
00:48:59.460 I don't be a frock, so I wouldn't say that.
00:49:00.860 Okay, maybe because people are here, but it's okay.
00:49:02.860 You can just tell me.
00:49:03.360 But I don't believe them, so I wouldn't say that.
00:49:04.660 Okay, now, if I start this reasoning, and I was going on and on,
00:49:08.960 you're going to get frustrated and say,
00:49:10.360 what on earth are you talking about?
00:49:11.360 If you'd like me to leave, I'd like you to leave. 0.94
00:49:12.360 No, I don't want you to leave, sister.
00:49:14.160 Sister, don't want me to leave.
00:49:15.460 Because you've been frustrated.
00:49:16.660 No, no, no.
00:49:17.160 I'm having...
00:49:17.760 No, no, no. 0.96
00:49:22.560 You're a frog. You're not even near to a frog. Even frogs are total opposite.
00:49:26.560 But when I'm coming and being irrational and irrational, you're like, Ali, what does a frog look like?
00:49:31.560 This. How do I look like a frog? You're a frog.
00:49:33.560 You said you've seen green. 0.83
00:49:35.560 No, no, no, no.
00:49:36.560 And it's like, you said you've seen green, I can't tell you.
00:49:37.560 No, no, no, no. Good, good, good. Perfect. But do you see what I'm saying?
00:49:39.560 And that's what's possible. You've supposed to be the same thing.
00:49:40.560 No, okay, perfect. So when I said I'm seen green, obviously, I was trying to make an argument.
00:49:43.560 That's not true. Of course I've got to answer green.
00:49:45.560 When we make, when we make rational...
00:49:48.560 You're having a discussion.
00:49:49.560 You're having a discussion.
00:49:50.560 If you stand on this side, if you stand on this side.
00:49:52.560 It's fine, thank you.
00:49:53.560 Sorry, I didn't need to do that.
00:49:54.560 So the point I was saying is, it's me seeing you are green is more of a possibility than you seeing, for example...
00:50:02.560 It's possible that you see green, yes.
00:50:04.560 No, no. It's coming from nothing.
00:50:06.560 Now, I gave you an example of your earring.
00:50:08.560 You agree your earring has a specific pattern.
00:50:10.560 Does it have a specific shape? Does it have a purpose?
00:50:14.560 Good. Does it have a designer?
00:50:16.560 Good. I asked you this question.
00:50:18.560 Have you met a designer? How did you come to the conclusion when earrings are made?
00:50:22.300 Because, from a young age, I've been taught the earrings are made.
00:50:26.140 I'll give you a sign. Give me a sign.
00:50:28.800 I'll give you a sign. I've been taught the earrings are made.
00:50:31.420 I'll give you a lack of free coffee.
00:50:32.980 Now, the plea here is this.
00:50:34.300 What is evidence that...
00:50:36.320 Perfect. Perfect. Perfect system.
00:50:38.820 Perfect. Perfect.
00:50:40.120 Now, have you gone to the factory?
00:50:42.840 No, I haven't.
00:50:43.440 Good. Now, you believe without going to the factory that it is designed?
00:50:47.480 I believe, but I don't base my entire life on it, which is why I don't.
00:50:50.120 No, no, no, that's fine.
00:50:51.380 You do, you do, you can.
00:50:53.440 What am I hearing?
00:50:54.200 No, you do, you know why?
00:50:55.020 Shall I tell you why?
00:50:55.700 When you woke up in the morning, did you wake up thinking you were in Mars?
00:50:58.700 No.
00:50:59.160 Where did you think you was when you woke up?
00:51:00.980 In Paris.
00:51:01.600 Perfect.
00:51:01.880 I had no reason to leave up the place.
00:51:03.200 Good.
00:51:04.060 It's called inference to the best explanation.
00:51:06.280 When you woke up, you didn't say, yo.
00:51:07.740 I had no reason to leave up the place.
00:51:08.860 Good, good, good.
00:51:09.700 Why, why, why?
00:51:11.160 Because when you went, if you went downstairs to your fridge and you saw a rabbit,
00:51:16.380 would you say that popped into existence there or someone put it there
00:51:22.800 okay no no no no a live rabbit yeah yes perfect what would be the logical conclusions you come to
00:51:34.020 to believe how that rabbit got there would you believe that a white dragon flew through your
00:51:38.020 house into the uh fridge and put the rabbit there good would you believe harry potter
00:51:42.980 no no no no no no no no no no no no good we're gonna see we're gonna see it now so
00:51:48.180 what is the logical conclusion that you will come to that the rabbit ended up in the fridge
00:51:54.100 what is the logic give me a couple of logical
00:51:58.820 so a rabbit is in your fridge and you will have no logic you just close the fridge and
00:52:02.740 go about your business that's not what that means you said how would i how do you think
00:52:05.300 i would what would be the logical possibilities how the rabbit ended up in the fridge can you
00:52:09.540 you give me a couple I can give you a couple someone from your family put it
00:52:16.980 there the fridge was open it came through in the garden and jumped into
00:52:19.980 the fridge and maybe I don't know someone wanted to surprise you prank you
00:52:24.480 good now a simple question to you now because you said how does this involve
00:52:29.700 my day-to-day life when you cross the light when you cross the road do you
00:52:33.120 look left and right good why because you don't want to get hit by a car you don't
00:52:37.660 go with skepticism you don't say hmm maybe the bus doesn't exist let me give it a try maybe in the
00:52:42.700 matrix good perfect good perfect perfect good excellent good now now what's more complex in
00:52:52.460 design your heart or your earrings your heart your heart is a million times more complex now
00:52:58.180 be consistent you said you said no no no one second what is more complex in design your
00:53:04.780 earrings or your heart the heart so then you have to be consistent in your
00:53:09.460 world view I asked you this is way consistent I said does you even have a
00:53:15.780 shape you said yes I said does it have a purpose you said yes I said does it
00:53:20.160 have a specific pattern you said yes I said okay so your ears don't have a
00:53:26.560 designer so if it doesn't follow okay okay okay okay okay if it doesn't sister if it doesn't
00:53:35.600 follow then why do you agree your earring has a designer perfect so you're telling me if you grew
00:53:53.180 up not being told you would deny that somebody made your earrings?
00:53:57.740 I wouldn't deny it, I wouldn't know. One second.
00:53:59.900 I think, oh yeah, so this is the hypothetical that I gave and I was like, oh, no, no, no, no.
00:54:03.260 Imagine you're a baby and you grew up in this white room and you're being fed food, whatever,
00:54:07.420 for 20 years, you don't see the outside world, you don't know anything, you don't have vision,
00:54:10.300 good, perfect example, good, good, good, good, good, good, no, no, no, no, one second,
00:54:17.820 she's going to go off track, so sorry, one second. You were in that room, you said, good,
00:54:21.420 you're in that room you're being fed by something they throw this earring in the room
00:54:26.780 they threw the earring in the room no no no no no no no no no no no no no designer they just
00:54:31.500 throw the earring in the room would you look at that and go oh this came from nothing
00:54:40.860 what would you say what would you say they threw the earring in what is your assessment
00:54:46.460 I would say, I would think that the child in that room, in the hypersetal
00:54:51.220 No, no, no, let's say you are that child
00:54:52.580 I don't think I can say that I'm not in that hypersetal
00:54:54.300 No, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry
00:54:55.900 Okay, go with the child, go with the child
00:54:57.920 Go with the child
00:54:58.640 The child is from the earring
00:55:00.360 What would the child say when looking at the earring?
00:55:03.360 And by the way, it's reached a specific age
00:55:04.360 I think you have to ask them if I should
00:55:05.500 I think they're going to immediately climb
00:55:07.160 No, no, no, no, that's why I'm trying to
00:55:09.640 What's that?
00:55:10.120 And then you say an earring
00:55:11.020 there is no conversation all that happened was an earring just like yours was thrown into the room
00:55:20.060 would that child say ah popped into existence what would the child say
00:55:34.300 so can i just ask where that person got the earring from
00:55:36.460 yes yes yes the child will say it's relevant of course do they believe the food came from
00:55:47.420 they're gonna just the way they equated the food coming from the person who gives it to them
00:55:51.660 they're russian somewhere but does that mean they must have good good no one second
00:55:55.100 does the earring have design yes not i don't not i've been taught the child
00:56:01.440 The child doesn't know that. The child, for all they know, the earrings would grow on trees. They don't know that.
00:56:05.040 It's irrelevant. Even if it grows on trees, it has a specific source of design.
00:56:09.040 It has a cause.
00:56:09.840 It has a cause.
00:56:11.040 Even if it's on a tree, it has a cause.
00:56:13.440 The child would say, the child, the child, that's my point.
00:56:17.840 The child would say, the child would say the earring has a design.
00:56:22.240 You said it doesn't follow.
00:56:24.240 I said to you, what is more complex, your heart or the earring?
00:56:27.040 You said the heart.
00:56:27.840 The complexity of something doesn't exist in its design.
00:56:32.140 Give me an example of something complex that's not designed.
00:56:35.340 A tree.
00:56:37.340 But you wouldn't agree with that, so that's okay.
00:56:39.140 So one second, one second, one second, one second.
00:56:41.140 One second, one second.
00:56:42.140 One second, we are not designed.
00:56:44.140 No, no, she said we are designed.
00:56:47.140 No, she said we are designed.
00:56:49.140 We're not designed.
00:56:50.140 So one second, one second, we're not designed.
00:56:53.140 So what's your definition of design?
00:56:56.140 yeah your heart your heart is pumping is that order or disorder huh and who's
00:57:05.060 the order-maker
00:57:21.740 I haven't if I was to be standing here I'm calling you a frog yes you
00:57:26.020 would be you yes sister sister if I was if I was here and if I was doing this you
00:57:32.020 would get frustrated let me tell you something so much so you walk away
00:57:34.300 what I love him they would I'm gonna demonstrate you look I believe you are a 1.00
00:57:39.560 frog and you are green prove me otherwise okay and I believe I believe
00:57:46.360 I believe you're green I believe no no I'm being irrational like you your green
00:57:49.780 color no no no but but but but am i irrational am i irrational okay so you've been a would you 0.88
00:57:58.180 okay okay me calling you a frog is it irrational or rational
00:58:04.660 me calling you a frog would you okay do you believe i'm being rational or irrational
00:58:12.500 that's fine i'm saying i i believe you're a frog but do you think that's rational
00:58:17.220 or irrational okay how can you prove to me that it's irrational okay okay okay so if you can't
00:58:23.580 prove it then you're a frog if you can't prove it sister if you can't prove that you're not a
00:58:28.500 frog then you're a frog if you can prove to me you're not a frog i'll accept it is that fair 0.81
00:58:33.360 okay that's fine i'm gonna carry on believing you're a frog that's fine i i believe you're a
00:58:38.940 frog yeah can we discuss this now no i want to talk about you being a frog why because that's
00:58:44.340 I believe, I believe.
00:58:46.340 So this stand is re-branded into, you are a frog. 0.77
00:58:48.340 Yes, we are deeming people who are frogs.
00:58:52.340 No, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
00:58:54.340 If you can disprove me, if you can disprove me.
00:58:56.340 That's an absolute nonsense.
00:58:58.340 Oh, that's an interesting word we use. 0.98
00:59:01.340 I am spewing absolute...
00:59:03.340 Check this out, check this out. 0.98
00:59:04.340 I'm spewing absolute nonsense. 0.82
00:59:07.340 So I was commending his colleagues about how, you know, 0.96
00:59:10.340 And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, oh, sister, sister, you didn't come and say, you gave me good examples, you said everything was irrational, irrational, irrational, now, now, now, now, now, if I was close to the sun, I would burn.
00:59:22.620 Perfect, do you see what I mean? Look, look, look, look, yes, more than you, and I know more than you, without sounding arrogant, because, you know why? Because you're sounding arrogant, because, let me tell you something, you came here, and you just said, and, and, and, and look, what did she say about five minutes ago? I will never got frustrated, look how frustrated you got now.
00:59:39.480 I'm not frustrated.
00:59:40.480 You are.
00:59:41.480 You are.
00:59:42.480 Look, when it's...
00:59:43.480 Shek, Shek, one second.
00:59:44.480 Shek, Shek, she's 17.
00:59:45.480 Shek, she's 17.
00:59:46.480 Shek, she's 17.
00:59:47.480 When it's us, Shek, when it's us, irrational, irrational, irrational, irrational, irrational.
00:59:50.480 We get frustrated.
00:59:51.480 Okay, I know.
00:59:52.480 When I say she's a frog and she gets... 0.60
00:59:54.480 Look, she gets...
00:59:55.480 Look, she gets upset.
00:59:56.480 It's fine.
00:59:57.480 Put the camera up for the theatrics, whatever you want to do, sure. 0.99
00:59:59.480 Sister, don't do the same thing.
01:00:00.480 The fact that you're facing this and you're like representing it so far is very embarrassing.
01:00:03.480 I'm representing it, sister.
01:00:04.480 It's very clear how I was being represented.
01:00:06.480 Yeah.
01:00:07.480 it's fine it's fine sister i'm not making a joke show this is if there's anything you're here 0.97
01:00:11.480 trying to act arrogant um talk to us like we're idiots and then look at the chat that was being 0.76
01:00:16.760 recorded we've done nothing but be respectful towards you give you evidence evidence evidence 0.99
01:00:21.560 when i go to a the sq look sq came and left there's a builder there's a building there's
01:00:25.640 a builder i don't know i don't know i don't know sister come on sister sister i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm 0.83
01:00:36.360 ignorant they call me Ali needs that one I'm an ignorant guy sister all I'm gonna do is this
01:00:41.160 you know sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes I study nothing I'll be honest sister I don't know 0.99
01:00:47.800 I study nothing sister okay yes yeah yeah it's fine thank you yeah yeah pray for me that can study
01:00:55.880 more hopefully i'll become aware of it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know in philosophy they speak
01:01:01.800 about the cause and effect the cause and cause the act she actually goes against all philosophy
01:01:11.080 i said you go against all rational and logical forget the cause and effect
01:01:14.680 sister all i'm saying is this the example i was giving about the frog is because it's so irrational
01:01:20.200 it's so irrational no no no sister sister look what i'm saying is this the moment the moment
01:01:25.240 Once I spoke about the frog thing, you got, you didn't get frustrated, I said I don't get frustrated.
01:01:32.240 There's nothing wrong with me, I've been frustrated, I've been frustrated, that's fine, I'm seeing this, when I reversed the roles and became irrational, you got frustrated.
01:01:41.240 All I'm saying is this, we'll let the people decide if you did or you didn't.
01:01:44.240 That's fine sister, that's fine, I did, you didn't.
01:01:47.240 Okay, so what I'm saying is this, all I can do is this for you sister, I ask Allah to open your heart.
01:01:53.240 because there's nothing I can do with rational, logic,
01:01:56.180 we've used all, contingency argument,
01:01:58.180 cosmic logic argument, DNA argument, et cetera.
01:02:01.080 No, I make, no, genuinely, no sister,
01:02:04.740 genuinely, I just want to know just out of curiosity,
01:02:07.020 just out of, Marcus Lee, keep on wearing the hijab,
01:02:09.820 but is there a specific reason?
01:02:10.940 Don't tell me what to do.
01:02:11.780 I never told you what to do, I'm just asking.
01:02:13.780 No, I'm asking you to do it, I'm just saying.
01:02:15.220 I don't think I'd like to say.
01:02:16.120 Okay, that's fine, that's fine.
01:02:16.960 But carry on keeping inshallah,
01:02:17.860 because at the end of the day, you don't know.
01:02:19.160 And look, again, I asked Allah to guide you.
01:02:22.200 Look, I don't mean to be offensive, but genuinely, just put yourself in my shoes, just put yourself in my shoes, when I made a frog example, you didn't like it, it was irrational, by the way, it was, it was, it was, it was, well, exactly, how do you think I feel about you? 0.70
01:02:35.720 You're here to debate me, sister, no, I'm not here to debate, I'm here to give dower, I'm here to talk, yes, and sister, I can't give answers to those who don't want answers.
01:02:43.680 When you came and talked to me, I gave you a...
01:02:47.040 You did, and I'm genuinely super grateful, and I felt like I was super grateful.
01:02:49.840 No problem, no problem.
01:02:51.600 I'm not sure, like genuinely, I'm thinking about it, and I won't be thinking about it more.
01:02:55.600 But just being met with so much aggression, it's just really unnecessary.
01:02:58.720 And if you want to say it's not aggression, that's fine, we'll expect it to be.
01:03:00.880 Listen to me, can I, can you listen to me one second?
01:03:03.840 Can you listen to me for one minute?
01:03:05.360 Publicizing.
01:03:06.160 Can you listen to me for one minute?
01:03:08.160 Yes, don't worry.
01:03:09.200 Look, I swear by Allah, although you don't believe in here, that we want the best for you.
01:03:15.940 Yeah.
01:03:16.480 We want the best for you.
01:03:18.720 Yeah, what did I say?
01:03:19.520 We're not speaking in here.
01:03:21.740 You're like my daughter.
01:03:22.720 Yes, you're like my sister.
01:03:24.820 But when you say, Allah, it's just the best for you.
01:03:27.060 I would say, react on the conversation that you have today with all of us.
01:03:33.260 React on them and just process them in your mind.
01:03:36.680 Maybe you'll come back and I'll be Muslim.
01:03:37.640 Yeah. 1.00
01:03:38.240 Inshallah.
01:03:38.560 Inshallah, that's what we pray for. That's what we pray for.
01:03:42.400 Because it's hurting me to see a 17-year-old.
01:03:46.800 You never know, you've had so many years later come at me.
01:03:48.880 But, Shaykh, Shaykh, Shaykh, Shaykh, can I say something?
01:03:52.960 When I was first talking to you, I got really shocked when you told me about your own.
01:03:59.040 Because we were talking about the book of Allah and...
01:04:02.240 Yeah, because, see, the questions I'll ask you, the first things I had,
01:04:06.640 So there are multiple questions like that. Some of them, some of them, I'm okay to presuppose this and I'm just...
01:04:10.040 Yes, I'm, I'm, listen, I'm open to, to talk to you, to talk to you whenever you want.
01:04:17.040 Thanks so much.
01:04:17.540 We're here every Friday and Saturday. You are welcome any time.
01:04:21.240 No, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen, you are young. Sometimes you can take, I was there, me too. He was there himself.
01:04:32.440 I was lost, man. I used to come clubbing and partying you every week. I know how it's to be lost.
01:04:36.040 I look, I see you like my sister, you might see my frustration, but as an older brother, I don't want you to go hell.
01:04:43.780 My frustration is this sister, wallahi, my frustration is this, you're like my blood sister.
01:04:49.700 If someone touched me today, we would put our life on the line for you.
01:04:53.120 The key I'm saying is this, what upsets me is when I'm trying to show argument logical and you keep pushing back,
01:05:00.420 again, it's because of my frustration because I care about you as my sister, wallahi.
01:05:04.220 You can cross the road today. May Allah protect you and die. I don't want hellfire for my worst enemy. 1.00
01:05:11.220 So it's like you have an older brother that's a little bit harsh with you.
01:05:14.220 Yes.
01:05:15.220 As I say, any time you want to talk? 0.99
01:05:18.220 Maybe Allah. 1.00
01:05:19.220 Come speak to Shaykh. 0.62
01:05:21.220 If you want to talk, you can talk to InshaAllah about anything.
01:05:25.220 Thank you so so much.
01:05:26.220 Thank you.
01:05:27.220 Thank you.