Ali Dawah - January 16, 2026SIKH STUDENT DEMANDS ANSWERS
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Jummah Kutbahaykum: Why does Islam have a higher standard of morality than Sikhi belief? Why is it that Sikhi has higher standards of morality, and why does it have a better legal system than that of Sikhi?
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And mashallah, my brother, our Shaykh Ali Hamouda is doing a great job.
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because the reward of what you give is not just at the moment of giving,
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but rather it is prolonged for a very, very long time.
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And it lasts for as long as that Waqf continues to generate some form of benefit.
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As an ambassador of Abdullah Aid, I know the partnership that we have is amazing.
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And not many people understand the concept of Waqf,
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yet the reward is far greater through the Waqf.
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it will be really, really amazing and very, very rewarding.
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and we're told to research other religions while staying content in us.
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So morality, the rules that Sikhi points out to is it can be universalized,
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treat every person as an end and forbid coercion or harm to innocence.
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So Sikhi in Gurbani, it teaches us that human is a Jodhsarup, divine light.
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And so the body is a temple and every life, you cannot violate that life because it's a temple.
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So, and Sikhi also promotes that no one is my enemy idea.
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So there's no punishment for apostasy in Sikhi.
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So by contrast, these three ideas in Islam, apostasy should be punishable by death and male authority of a woman.
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So there's just ideas I'm bringing that I've heard from people that speak about Islam, whether they are against or for.
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In the mainstream readings, you can say some readings say it's permitted to strike a woman.
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It says that you can have sex with the owned slaves, which avoids consent.
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So lastly, my question is, a system that protects equal inviolability, forbids coercion of belief, and rejects non-consensual sex is morally higher than the one that permits them.
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So, given just these points, how can you believe that Islam has a higher or moral superiority than Sikhi belief?
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So the first point that was mentioned was, killing, can you just say that first point again about killing, with regards to it being a universal principle, or it can be universalized?
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No, you said there are certain principles that you get from Sikhi that can be universalized.
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And one example that you gave was pertaining murder or something along those lines.
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So it says by morality that it can be universalized.
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So that means that Gurbani teaches us that the body is a temple, and you cannot violate that temple.
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So you cannot go around killing a person just because of an apostasy.
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So this is the argument that it's not just from Sikhi.
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This is an argument that comes even from atheists as well, or possibly agnostics.
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So they say that, you know, morality, it's fine.
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But the principles that you've mentioned are the principles that are expounded upon by humanists as well.
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But I'm sorry, that's not something that can be universalized, nor is it universalized.
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In fact, in this country, you can get one person saying killing is wrong.
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However, I guarantee within one minute of having a conversation with said individual, they will retract on their statement.
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Said individual will say killing is wrong, it's barbaric, it's bad.
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However, they will also accept in that same vein that after six months, it's okay for you to abort a child.
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So over here we're seeing, when I was debating or having a discussion with said individual, they said, no, no, no, it's not a baby, it's a fetus.
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So a shift of word, a shift of definition, now suddenly makes it okay for you to kill such individual.
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What if killing an individual, and this is in the moral philosophy if somebody is studying this, it comes under utilitarianism.
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If killing one individual will save the lives of a hundred, is it permitted?
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But if you go with that, which is more in line with Kant's categorical imperative, well, in that case, no, you'd say no.
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But still you'll end up indirectly killing numerous other people.
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So when you say killing or harming the body can be universalized, I beg to differ.
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I would say, and I would retort with, who decides?
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These principles that you've said on the face of it, and on the surface of it, mashallah, fantastic.
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I'm sure most of us on the surface of it, we would absolutely agree.
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But the problem, my brother, is it's the specifics that get us.
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That is utilitarianism correct, or is Kant's categorical imperative correct?
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When it comes to, say, a non-Muslim country, non-scriptural-based country, they will say yes.
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We already know in this country what the laws for homosexuality were all, but 100 odd years ago.
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So there's a debate between subjective morality and objective morality.
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Now, I think those few points are a gross misrepresentation of what Islam actually is.
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When you go to America, no one's going to say, we're going into a land, land of the free.
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Am I free to, you know, do this and do that, insult somebody, you know, make racist comments?
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Oh, is it true that, you know, if I do this law wrong, I will be put in the electric chair?
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Is it true that if I maybe say something treason-based and I leave the country, will that be okay?
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But that's not the first thing that's mentioned.
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And I'm not just saying to you, again, I'm addressing the whole crowd here.
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Why is it when it comes to Islam and Islamic law, when we talk about Islamic law, it's about five, six things, and they are significantly straw-manned, and they are top of the list.
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As opposed to Muslims being the, well, it's a UK statistic, because ironically it was covered by the Daily Mail.
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And the Daily Mail was saying that the religious group, the religious group that's known to give the most charity are Muslims.
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They asked people of other faiths, and they said, is it ever okay to kill innocent people?
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With a resounding 78%, it was the highest, and it was Muslims that said, no, under no circumstances can you do that.
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So, if you are looking even at the statistic of, say, happiness, why?
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Because of praying five times a day, the relationship one has with one's parents, with neighbors, that is also Sharia law.
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When it comes to apostasy, because that's what you mentioned, and Ali touched upon it, again, this is something that needs to be fleshed out.
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But, because, and people might be surprised, leaving the religion does not get you killed.
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If you are in a Muslim country, you leave the religion, that's it.
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However, if now you go to the streets, you start corrupting the people.
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Because in an Islamic country, the greatest sin is shirk.
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Now, when it comes to wronging Allah, because again, there's scales for morality here.
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The scale for morality in Islam is going against Allah, disbelieving in Allah.
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Because if a person dies, they'll go to hellfire.
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So, if a person leaves, they don't do anything, that's it.
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There are churches, they have their own sections.
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They want to drink in a Muslim land, they're allowed to do so.
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But when you go outside, and you now want to corrupt the other Muslims in the land,
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Then, the highest punishment is killing the individual.
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There have been many cases in which the person has been imprisoned, the person has been exiled.
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They've been, there's a treaty with another country.
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That doesn't mean that if you leave, that's the prescribed punishment.
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But people make it seem like, you've left, that's it.
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The other thing that you mentioned was taking this concept of sex slaves.
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It's actually a concept that's taken from the Old Testament.
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This terminology, even in fact, say apostasy as well.
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It actually falls under the guise of Orientalism.
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So even if you take, for example, sex slaves, that's not the concept within Islam.
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That, oh, you just take, someone's a slave, that's it.
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And not only that, for example, you believe, you have one of your gurus, which is the book, right?
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You have something there, but if I'm not mistaken, it's called Dharam Yud.
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For example, a thief, you do realize you carry a sword or a knife, right?
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As I mentioned in the question itself, that one of the points about Sikhi is force is only
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That is what we define as a righteous war, is when in defense of the oppressed.
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Okay, so you would agree, and this is a fact, that Sikhs have been oppressed and been under
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So that's one of the reasons they carry that, and I don't blame them at all.
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Like, if you are being under attack, I call that a righteous war.
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I call it a righteous war that you are carrying a weapon because you are constantly under attack,
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and that is what one of your scriptures say that.
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And I don't want to long it too much because we've got a lot of questions, the brother said.
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But the thing is this, bro, we need to be pragmatic.
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I can come to you and say, I have a religion called Lala Daisy, okay?
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And Lala Daisy, we just love everybody, and I walk here and I throw flowers, and I do backflips,
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and I'm like a hippo, and it's like, okay, what do you do when someone, like Christians say this,
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Come on, man, are you telling me if I slap you, you're going to turn the other cheek, yeah?
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We live in the real world, and Islam is a real religion that deals with pragmatism.
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And that's the reason why, if you look, and I genuinely believe this as well,
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even on the season, like, for example, it would even be classed as a righteous war
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if, among the Sikhs, there is an individual who says, I am not a Sikhie anymore.
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And you can say, okay, no problem, like I said about the Holy Temple, whatever, like the body.
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If he says, no, no, no, I'm going to stay here, I'm going to talk negatively against Sikhism,
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and I'm going to, and it's going to start off with words,
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and it's going to start gathering arguments, say, a group of people who are going to attack
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an innocent Sikh woman walking, because he believes Sikhism is absolutely wrong,
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his brain watched me for years, I'm an ex-Sikhie, and I'm going to take you out.
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You use that sword against that person who's attacking that woman,
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So we're seeing, in real scenarios, in real situations,
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what Islam is prescribed, it doesn't sound good to the ear,
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That's the reason I came to Islam, because it's a real religion.
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It doesn't deal with, like, hunky-dory, yeah, if someone slaps you,
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I'm going to give him a flower, send 10 pounds to his account.
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So I would say, my brother, that this is where the righteous war that you have,
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we have this, excuse me, we also have righteous war against those who've been oppressed,
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if they're Muslim or non-Muslim, if as Muslims we see in our lands,
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the Sikhs are being oppressed, and the Muslims done this,
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when the Jews were being persecuted by centuries, by the crusaders,
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and by the way, the word infidel comes from the crusaders.
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Apparently we say you're killed infidel wherever you see them.
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Yeah, okay, man, stop watching horror movies, yeah?
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Okay, so the thing is, is that Christians were protected by other denominations
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that were trying to kill them, and the Muslims would go out to war.
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And at one instance, I can't remember who the ruler was,
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here's the jizya tax that you used to pay to protect you,
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we couldn't protect you, here's your money back.
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yes, when the Christians were desecrating the holy temples of the Jews,
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who brought back Jewish families back to those lands to live in cohesion?
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So in a nutshell, I hope that answers your question.
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We are going to try to answer it fast, inshallah.
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If you do want to, after the event, we can talk as well.
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Just a quick point on the, you said the Sikhs will be protected under Muslim rule, let's say.
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Okay, yes, so for example, there's a different opinion.
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no, not Politeus, there's, you know the Persians.