Ali Dawah - August 22, 2019


SLAVES DRESS TO IMPRESS - SPEAKERS CORNER

Topics
backbiting
Hosted by
Ali Dawah
Mentioned
Fajr Inshallah Prophet Luhur Zina Proper Muslim Islamically Bismillah As-Salah Wajibat Maghrib Madam
GIRL INSULTS ALLAH & GETS PUT IN PLACE - SPEAKERS CORNER I'LL ACCEPT ISLAM IF... - SPEAKERS CORNER'

Episode Stats


Length

12 minutes

Words per minute

217.7

Word count

2,684

Sentence count

400

Harmful content

Misogyny

6

sentences flagged

Toxicity

23

sentences flagged

Hate speech

28

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

In this episode, we have a special guest, Ali, who shares his story of how he left one kind of slavery and became a slave to the one who created him. We discuss the difference between being a slave and being free.

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
Topics generated with Qwen2.5-3B-Instruct.
Hosts, guests, and mentioned names generated with spaCy (en_core_web_sm), reconciled against Wikidata.
00:00:00.000 So, I've got a couple of questions. I think I remember the first one.
00:00:03.940 So, you know when you're talking about this jumper, this lifestyle that you have?
00:00:07.180 Yes, yes, yes.
00:00:07.780 And you put on a jumper and it was really uncomfortable for you, but you wanted to look good in it.
00:00:12.260 Yes, yes.
00:00:13.020 Were you born with that jumper?
00:00:14.380 No.
00:00:15.560 So, what happened?
00:00:16.300 No, I'm sure I wasn't.
00:00:18.400 I bought it in a shop.
00:00:21.360 You bought it in a shop?
00:00:22.420 Yeah.
00:00:22.700 And then this life made you uncomfortable?
00:00:26.180 No.
00:00:27.100 Basically, I was living a lifestyle, for example, clubbing, cars, money, all that kind of stuff.
00:00:32.500 Yeah.
00:00:32.720 So, I bought a specific jumper. I would like to look after myself. I would like to look nice.
00:00:37.040 And the reason I would like to look nice is so I can have the attention of women. 1.00
00:00:39.920 I would go to the gym so I can have the attention of women. 1.00
00:00:41.740 I would, one second, one second. I would drive certain cars to have the attention of women. 1.00
00:00:45.340 I was enslaved to my society.
00:00:48.080 I found true freedom by breaking those shackles and bringing a slave to the one who created me.
00:00:52.760 Because I believe by nature, all of us are born to be enslaved to something.
00:00:58.300 So, you can tell me, you can't tell me that how you may dress, and this is, you can dress up however you like.
00:01:04.260 How you're dressed and the way you behave and the lipstick or whatever, all of that, you cannot tell me that that is not societal pressure.
00:01:11.660 No, no, no. I'm not saying that.
00:01:12.980 Thank you.
00:01:13.260 But I'm just addressing your comparative.
00:01:15.520 Is it wrong?
00:01:16.180 I'm addressing your jumper life comparative, right?
00:01:19.100 Yes.
00:01:19.300 So, you compared this uncomfortable jumper to your life.
00:01:23.460 You wore the jumper, your previous life, right?
00:01:26.720 Yeah.
00:01:27.100 So, you wore the jumper because you looked good in it.
00:01:29.540 Yes.
00:01:30.240 I thought I did anyway.
00:01:32.880 I mean, I think that's an outside opinion at this point.
00:01:35.780 Yes, yes. Subjective.
00:01:37.020 You said you wore this jumper because you looked in it, but you sacrificed what you wanted to do.
00:01:43.960 You sacrificed your comfort for looking good.
00:01:46.460 Yes, yes, yes.
00:01:47.140 Do you not also think that by giving yourself up to God, which is no longer a jumper, it's a cage.
00:01:53.420 Yeah.
00:01:53.860 It's a cage because you were a slave in this life, right?
00:01:56.540 Okay, okay, yeah.
00:01:57.520 You've given up your freedom completely.
00:02:01.160 Yeah.
00:02:01.280 So, you could have taken off that jumper and worn a more comfortable one.
00:02:05.000 Yes.
00:02:05.260 You know, become...
00:02:05.840 Okay, good. I get your question.
00:02:07.340 You're saying, Ali, you're saying that you've left one kind of slavery, but for example, waking up for Fajr, yeah, is hard. 0.64
00:02:15.020 It's very hard.
00:02:15.760 Yeah.
00:02:17.280 Going about staying away from promiscuous...
00:02:21.140 Zina. 0.80
00:02:21.520 Zina. 0.80
00:02:22.000 All of that.
00:02:22.300 Yeah, all that kind of thing is hard, yeah?
00:02:24.560 Especially at a time where we live, where getting married is hard.
00:02:28.240 That's why I have a whole marriage documentary based on that.
00:02:30.220 To share my thing, yeah?
00:02:31.660 Okay.
00:02:34.020 That's the reason why I talk about my struggles, yeah?
00:02:35.880 Inshallah.
00:02:36.500 Inshallah, yeah, of course.
00:02:37.300 It comes out, yeah?
00:02:38.360 So, now, what you're saying is this.
00:02:40.160 Brother Ali, is that not the same as you've enslaved yourself? 0.61
00:02:44.840 My jumper and society and women or whatever, they do not deserve me to be a slave to them.
00:02:52.020 I'm not saying that you're a slave.
00:02:53.500 I'm answering your question.
00:02:54.320 You were a slave to anyone else.
00:02:54.540 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was, and so are you, and so is everyone.
00:02:58.100 I'm not saying you were or you are, but I'm not saying that you are to be a slave to anyone.
00:03:02.160 I'm saying that you...
00:03:03.160 No, you're default, you're going to be.
00:03:04.740 You gave away one slavery for another, that is what I'm saying. 0.97
00:03:07.860 That's what I'm trying to answer.
00:03:09.240 One deserves it because he's the one who created me.
00:03:12.120 Yeah.
00:03:12.280 One is created by men. 0.56
00:03:14.500 Do you understand the difference?
00:03:15.400 If I come and say, this book controls my life, I free myself from this and go to my Lord.
00:03:23.620 He is deserving of my enslavement.
00:03:26.700 Why is he deserving of your enslavement?
00:03:28.300 Because he's...
00:03:29.000 Madam, who brought you to this age?
00:03:31.620 My parents.
00:03:32.620 Okay.
00:03:33.200 Does your parents deserve some kind of respect?
00:03:36.040 My father tried to kill me, so...
00:03:38.140 Well, let's talk about good parents then.
00:03:39.520 Let's talk about good parents, yeah?
00:03:40.700 A good parent...
00:03:41.580 Yeah, the deserving of your respect.
00:03:43.620 Your love?
00:03:44.880 Yeah.
00:03:45.480 Affection?
00:03:46.020 Yeah.
00:03:46.400 Mercy?
00:03:46.940 Yeah.
00:03:47.480 Presence?
00:03:48.000 Yeah.
00:03:48.380 Take on holidays?
00:03:49.080 Sure.
00:03:49.540 Good.
00:03:50.040 Okay.
00:03:50.860 So now, if I come and say to you, why do they deserve it?
00:03:53.560 Why don't you just stay together?
00:03:54.600 Because they raised you, but God did not raise you.
00:03:57.260 God is the one who gave...
00:03:58.820 God is the one who made the ones who raised you.
00:04:01.000 Yeah, but the one who raised me was a little...
00:04:04.400 Sister, by the way, one second, I want to apologize again.
00:04:06.960 Okay.
00:04:07.400 Sorry, I...
00:04:08.800 Okay, okay, sorry.
00:04:09.680 Once again, sorry.
00:04:10.340 I just had a little of a heated discussion.
00:04:12.500 Yeah.
00:04:12.680 And sometimes when you have heated discussions and you have another conversation, you carry that on.
00:04:16.940 So forgive me, I'm sounding a bit aggressive, yeah?
00:04:18.480 I was a grim and emotional.
00:04:18.960 No, no, sorry, sorry.
00:04:19.660 No, forgive me, forgive me if I've come across.
00:04:21.120 Sorry, I just need to reset my factory settings.
00:04:23.700 Okay.
00:04:24.280 Bismillah.
00:04:24.760 I wadu billah min al-shaytan raja.
00:04:25.720 Sister, what I'm trying to say is this, yeah?
00:04:28.380 If your parents deserve the love and affection, the mercy and all that kind of stuff,
00:04:32.020 Yeah.
00:04:32.380 The one who's made your parents deserve more than that.
00:04:35.860 So what I'm saying, sister, is this, yeah?
00:04:37.940 You claim to be an ex-Muslim.
00:04:39.700 Yeah.
00:04:40.340 Okay.
00:04:41.880 If I ask you certain questions, would you be able to answer them?
00:04:44.800 Is this the ex-Muslim test? 0.97
00:04:46.720 Yeah, kind of.
00:04:47.420 You're going to give me the ex-Muslim test?
00:04:49.120 Yes.
00:04:49.600 Ali? 0.52
00:04:50.340 Yeah, I'm out.
00:04:50.760 You're really going to do that?
00:04:51.680 I really am.
00:04:52.160 Okay.
00:04:53.160 You can ask.
00:04:53.920 I don't know if I know the answer.
00:04:54.580 Okay.
00:04:54.860 What I'm going to do is this, sister, yeah?
00:04:56.220 I'm not going to ask.
00:04:56.980 I'm going to assume the best.
00:04:57.700 Ask the best.
00:04:58.400 No.
00:04:58.600 No, no, I'm not going to ask.
00:04:59.240 I'm not going to ask.
00:04:59.540 You can ask.
00:05:00.920 I'm pretty good.
00:05:01.940 I'm not going to ask.
00:05:02.600 No, you don't know what I'm going to ask.
00:05:03.740 No, ask.
00:05:04.580 Give it to me.
00:05:05.180 No, give us the question.
00:05:07.000 I've already agreed.
00:05:08.540 Ask.
00:05:09.620 Okay.
00:05:10.080 All right.
00:05:10.320 She's in front of me.
00:05:11.160 Okay.
00:05:12.140 How long was you a Muslim for? 0.97
00:05:13.500 So then my question is based on.
00:05:14.440 Was a Muslim, a proper Muslim? 1.00
00:05:16.340 Proper Muslim. 1.00
00:05:16.980 Proper Muslim for about 10 years. 1.00
00:05:19.160 10 years.
00:05:19.720 Yeah.
00:05:20.040 Okay.
00:05:20.480 What is the difference between an Al-Qa'an, a Wajibat, and a Sunnah of As-Salah?
00:05:24.500 Yeah, I don't know that.
00:05:25.800 Okay.
00:05:26.180 Because the reason I've asked you how long you was, because if you was for one year, I
00:05:30.140 wouldn't ask you this question, because this is something that you would find out.
00:05:33.280 You should find out at the beginning, but it will take a bit of time, yeah?
00:05:35.300 I mean, I've been away from Islamic studies for a little while as well.
00:05:37.260 You're saying if someone doesn't know that they're not a Muslim?
00:05:40.180 I'm not saying that, but the thing is, I have to question the fact.
00:05:43.320 So for example, if someone works in a Ferrari factory, yeah?
00:05:49.120 And one second, he doesn't know how to make a Ferrari, and he goes, I left a Ferrari factory 0.52
00:05:52.640 shop because they build it rubbish.
00:05:54.480 The problem is within the person itself, not with the factory.
00:05:56.680 That's a great question.
00:05:58.300 Let me send them out of the factory.
00:05:59.920 Okay.
00:06:00.200 How many rakah for Fajr?
00:06:03.720 For Fajr? 0.95
00:06:04.560 Yeah.
00:06:04.700 There's two rakah.
00:06:05.440 Okay.
00:06:05.880 For Luhur?
00:06:06.860 Luhur is four.
00:06:07.720 For Maghrib?
00:06:08.440 Three.
00:06:09.100 Okay.
00:06:09.500 All right.
00:06:09.820 So you have to basically understand?
00:06:10.900 Ali, can I just ask you?
00:06:12.200 Okay.
00:06:12.520 I was going to ask.
00:06:13.320 Just a little bit.
00:06:13.700 Okay, go ahead.
00:06:14.140 Just a little bit.
00:06:14.620 Yes.
00:06:15.600 For, to work in a Ferrari company, you need to have experience.
00:06:19.660 You don't need to have experience to become a Muslim. 0.64
00:06:21.720 Okay.
00:06:22.720 Is that not true?
00:06:24.300 Yeah.
00:06:24.760 I was just giving you...
00:06:25.600 Even if someone who has lived their whole life as a non-Muslim, and then accepts Shahada 1.00
00:06:30.220 on the deathbed, he doesn't...
00:06:31.460 He doesn't...
00:06:31.480 He doesn't know.
00:06:32.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:32.620 He doesn't know.
00:06:33.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:33.760 So why would a test be necessary to be, you know, ex-Muslim? 0.94
00:06:37.900 Let me tell you why.
00:06:38.860 Because the issue here is this.
00:06:40.740 We have a lot of people that come and claim to be an ex-Muslim.
00:06:44.340 When we ask them surafati, they go, what is that?
00:06:46.820 Okay, that's...
00:06:47.320 No, but this is what I'm saying.
00:06:48.680 That's the reason why we ask, because there's a lot of people who claim are Christian missionaries.
00:06:54.900 Yeah.
00:06:55.120 They lie.
00:06:56.200 So we just do that to show and prove, yeah?
00:06:59.000 Now, sister.
00:07:00.120 He was a Quran-only guy. 0.97
00:07:01.700 What I ask...
00:07:02.580 Brothers, it's going to catch it.
00:07:04.760 Yeah?
00:07:05.480 What I'm saying is this, sister, yeah?
00:07:07.920 Is that...
00:07:09.000 Do you understand the example I gave?
00:07:11.000 If God has created you...
00:07:12.640 No, no, no.
00:07:13.020 I fully understand the example.
00:07:14.020 Okay, okay.
00:07:14.680 Do you believe in God?
00:07:16.220 I don't know where I am with God right now.
00:07:18.200 Okay.
00:07:18.680 What made you leave Islam?
00:07:20.780 What made me leave Islam?
00:07:22.100 Yes.
00:07:23.560 I know that from your videos, because I've watched a couple of them, you assume that it's
00:07:27.120 from an emotional reason.
00:07:28.760 Not all the time, not all the time.
00:07:29.800 If I'm completely honest, it is from an emotional reason.
00:07:33.380 Okay, I thank you for your honesty, yeah.
00:07:34.700 But do you believe that emotional reasons aren't valid when it comes to accepting or leaving
00:07:38.800 religion?
00:07:40.260 Look, let me put it like this, yeah?
00:07:42.120 I would have, like, I see you like a sister in humanity, yeah?
00:07:46.500 What is that?
00:07:47.480 No, it's coffee drop there.
00:07:49.260 Yeah, so I need to clean it.
00:07:49.960 I'm just cleaning it.
00:07:50.740 Look, let me have a bit of a heart-to-heart with you, like you're my sister.
00:07:53.700 You see me like your brother, yeah?
00:07:55.000 Yeah.
00:07:55.220 When I look around the world, and I see innocent people suffering, when I see Grenfell, when
00:08:00.620 I see it hurts me.
00:08:02.480 As a person, it hurts me.
00:08:03.820 Yeah.
00:08:04.520 Emotionally, I do sometimes say, why?
00:08:07.500 Why does this happen, yeah?
00:08:08.660 Now, the question is this, sister.
00:08:11.860 My emotions, and what's going on, and I gave this example to a brother, yeah?
00:08:16.040 I said, that there was this guy I was talking to, yeah?
00:08:20.180 Yeah.
00:08:20.880 We look at the Syrian boy, whose family's been blown into pieces.
00:08:25.740 We say, God doesn't exist.
00:08:27.240 Yeah.
00:08:27.800 If God exists, this wouldn't have happened.
00:08:29.840 But the funny part...
00:08:30.820 We don't believe that.
00:08:31.320 No, no, you're not, I'm saying that certainly emotionally.
00:08:32.640 But what is more profound, is the one who's being bombed, says, la ilaha illallah.
00:08:39.160 It's profound, but does that make it true?
00:08:42.040 Let me tell you.
00:08:42.760 What I'm trying to make is a point here.
00:08:44.440 The one who's being bombed on, his conviction in Allah grows.
00:08:48.280 The one who's seeing it, emotionally says, no, forget that, God doesn't exist.
00:08:52.500 I find the scenario interesting.
00:08:55.480 Because the one whose family's been blown into pieces, says, la ilaha illallah.
00:08:59.260 I'm not using this as an argument to say, Islam is true or not. 0.95
00:09:01.440 I'm saying, from an emotional perspective, he should be more emotional and asking more questions than you or me.
00:09:08.580 I'm talking about myself.
00:09:09.500 That's not necessarily true, because one is dying and one is isn't.
00:09:12.160 And one is scared for what happens after he dies.
00:09:14.380 One is suffering, one is not.
00:09:16.060 But my question is, do you think that emotions are invalid when it comes to leaving or joining a relationship?
00:09:21.720 I would say, for somebody to leave Islam, based on emotions, 0.98
00:09:26.600 all that shows is that that person had an emotional scenario, situation,
00:09:33.240 and took it out on Islam and left.
00:09:36.160 It does not negate that Islam is false. 0.67
00:09:39.400 No, no, I'm not saying that.
00:09:40.360 That's what I'm saying.
00:09:41.060 That's what I'm saying, sister.
00:09:41.760 So, these certain people who claim to be ex-Muslims, yeah,
00:09:45.480 some of them are genuine.
00:09:47.040 Don't get it twisted.
00:09:47.580 I've never said that.
00:09:48.580 All of them are fake.
00:09:49.400 No.
00:09:49.960 Some of them are fake, like Red One, yeah?
00:09:51.560 He doesn't even know the six pillars of Iman, yeah?
00:09:54.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:54.980 But there's some that are genuine.
00:09:56.780 So, sister, what emotional reason did you meet before?
00:10:01.080 Let's discuss that, because at the end of the day, I want good for you.
00:10:03.760 I'm sure you want good for me.
00:10:04.840 It's a really long story, and honestly, it only happened, like, very fresh,
00:10:07.820 so I don't really want to cry on all these cameras.
00:10:09.880 Okay, do you mind if we had that discussion, maybe, with all of us,
00:10:13.020 we'd go and eat?
00:10:13.840 Yeah.
00:10:14.320 Yeah?
00:10:14.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10:15.280 Okay, let's go, like, around nine o'clock.
00:10:18.460 Yeah, maybe a few sisters can come as well, if they like, 0.99
00:10:20.380 they can sit with you.
00:10:21.360 I'm here, not now, not now.
00:10:23.460 I'm here till nine.
00:10:24.620 Okay.
00:10:25.160 So, if you guys then, because obviously, it's something that,
00:10:27.840 we feel your pain.
00:10:28.980 Don't get it twisted, dear.
00:10:29.680 We don't hate you.
00:10:30.160 I think that this bridge needed to be made a long time.
00:10:32.800 No, no, no, we make that bridge,
00:10:33.900 but we make it with people who are genuine.
00:10:36.380 Okay. 0.98
00:10:36.500 I'm not going to make this bridge with Redwan, the fake clown. 0.98
00:10:40.020 Can we not attack people? 1.00
00:10:41.220 No, no, I will attack Redwan, the clown. 1.00
00:10:42.760 He's a fake clown who insults the prophet. 1.00
00:10:45.100 He doesn't. 1.00
00:10:45.480 I'm defending for himself, yeah? 1.00
00:10:46.560 He's a clown, and he has no defense. 0.99
00:10:48.280 I mean, backbites Quran. 1.00
00:10:49.900 No, no, if he's an evildoer, yeah?
00:10:51.640 He's a boy, you know, like Hijab says, yeah?
00:10:53.800 You're finished, you're finished.
00:10:55.120 It is backbiting.
00:10:56.020 No, no, he's someone who insults Allah in his messenger,
00:10:57.860 like that woman, where is she? 0.98
00:11:00.060 She was swearing at Allah.
00:11:01.260 I turn my back on her, and I go,
00:11:02.400 I put you in your place, she starts crying. 0.99
00:11:03.960 You insult Allah. 0.94
00:11:04.780 But I turn my back against you.
00:11:06.920 When I say I put you in your place, she starts crying.
00:11:08.740 Where's she going?
00:11:09.080 She's somewhere around there.
00:11:09.660 When you talk about someone without them being here,
00:11:11.620 that is backbiting.
00:11:12.640 Well, what about somebody talking about my religion?
00:11:15.900 Yeah, my prophet.
00:11:16.420 But he's not hearing this.
00:11:17.280 Okay, my prophet is not here to defend himself.
00:11:19.460 But even if he's backbiting in front of him,
00:11:22.680 it's still backbiting.
00:11:23.420 Backbiting is not for evildoer.
00:11:24.860 Backbiting is actually, 0.96
00:11:25.600 you might get good deeds for backbiting that evildoer.
00:11:28.420 That's not genuine.
00:11:29.660 That is genuine.
00:11:30.360 That is not genuine.
00:11:31.400 Islamically, you can slander. 1.00
00:11:32.540 So someone who's not a Muslim, 0.98
00:11:33.260 you can backbite them? 0.98
00:11:34.040 No, I said not a Muslim. 0.99
00:11:35.160 I said somebody who's an enemy of Allah. 0.98
00:11:37.400 Okay, so someone who's an enemy of Allah.
00:11:38.780 Yes, or backbiting happy days.
00:11:40.160 All day, all night.
00:11:41.420 All day, all right.
00:11:42.240 Problems on it.
00:11:42.620 I'm not sure that that's what your prophet preached.
00:11:44.400 No, no.
00:11:44.820 Look, my prophet, for example,
00:11:46.640 the Prophet ï·º,
00:11:47.640 would he talk evil?
00:11:49.960 No.
00:11:50.380 Would he ask?
00:11:51.180 But the issue here is this.
00:11:52.120 In certain circumstances,
00:11:54.160 you can backbite.
00:11:55.120 How?
00:11:55.580 If somebody wants to marry my brother, 0.91
00:11:58.380 I'm going to say,
00:11:58.920 look, my brother is not a good man.
00:12:00.960 I know that there are exceptions to that.
00:12:02.480 That's what I'm saying.
00:12:03.300 That's what I'm saying.
00:12:03.720 But he's not here,
00:12:04.680 and you're backbiting a person.
00:12:05.920 No, it's not.
00:12:06.480 Look, sister,
00:12:07.160 I'm telling you,
00:12:07.720 Islamically, it's not backbiting. 0.98
00:12:08.740 He's an enemy of Islam 1.00
00:12:09.740 who insults the Prophet. 1.00
00:12:11.000 I believe he's an animal. 1.00
00:12:12.640 He's a clown. 1.00
00:12:13.640 I don't want to drop to his level. 1.00
00:12:15.920 He's an absolute clown. 0.98
00:12:16.880 You are doing that by a bad way. 1.00
00:12:18.440 The least I can do is call him a clown. 0.99