WHO BELONGS IN THE KITCHEN？ MEN OR WOMAN？ - EP 7 ｜｜ BITTER TRUTH SHOW
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1 hour and 19 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about what it means to be a woman in the 21st century, and why it's so important to have a secure man in your life. We also talk about why women should be in the kitchen and why they should not be treated as slaves.
Transcript
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It's very, very important to invite people that you disagree with.
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So it was you. I thought it was a troll account.
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If you had gone onto the page, you would have known.
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He's advising the youngsters in the wrong way when the people are not married, the youngsters.
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I've never come across a secure man who gets female attention, who gets money, who
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gets the things that are maybe make you a high value man.
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Start speaking down on a woman like she's a piece of something on the floor.
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At the same time, I think my question is, is why do people get so triggered?
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I was invited to come and comfort him and I refused.
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I think a lot of modern day women, in my opinion, especially Western women with the
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women here, white women, my people, they, they don't understand the value of being in
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I know that sounds, it's very, I know it's a very harsh.
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Because a lot of these Cardi B's of the world and all of these girls that we watch and listen
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to and we look up to, they have an agenda to break us as women so that our men can't
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When's the last time our wives helped out with our work?
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We're going to call ourselves the blue pill guys.
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Everyone's talking about toxic masculinity and no one talks about the toxic masculinity
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No one talks about the toxic masculinity that we women are developing.
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Brothers and sisters and dear friends, hope you guys are well inshaAllah.
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Before I start, I want to praise Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, the most merciful, the most just,
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or praise His glory and gratitude belong to Him.
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Before we start, I want to do some disclaimers.
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So our last episode, which was pertaining to this very topic, kicked off for a variety
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I just want to make a disclaimer as the host and someone that contributes to these discussions
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is that I don't invite people here who I disagree with.
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If I brought everyone who I agree with, if I said, guys, does everyone like Apple?
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So the point I'm saying is that I might invite somebody who is a, maybe a toxic feminist
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But I would like you to come here so I can challenge your views, understand you better,
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and maybe change your mind about certain things.
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Secondly, there are people who are making some claims.
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And I want to touch upon that as well, which is we are free mixing, meaning that the sisters
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and our honorable sisters, by the way, and our brothers have come here to intermingle.
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If you do not know your religion, please study your religion.
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The sisters who come here, our honorable sisters, which is one of Barabah's sister, his wife,
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our dear sister is here, to have her contributions as well.
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So I ask you to fear Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala in your accusations and slander.
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The Prophet Muhammad said, the one who guarantees what's between his lips and what's between
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If what you're saying about it is not true, it's slander.
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Our sisters come here for the sake of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
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And the brothers who come here for the sake of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, we come here
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One of the biggest fitness of our ummah today is divorce.
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People are getting divorced left, right, center.
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But the point is, the reason I started this show is not for fame and views and money,
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It is genuinely, inshallah, for the sake of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala,
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of how we can combat these things that the family units are going through.
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We already have the LGBT and all these other madnesses attacking our family unit.
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Since that disclaimer is out of the way, this is going to be a part two of our episode that we had,
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There were things that were said that some people got upset about.
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Obviously, he was challenged as well, which is Brother Mahdi.
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The discussion was basically, should men cook and clean?
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So when I say this, brothers and sisters, I know there is some people said,
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for example, like Shaquille said on the last one.
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By the way, and I need to give an explanation to that.
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Shaquille, not that, by the way, I'm not vilifying Brother Mahdi.
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We don't want to throw Brother Mahdi under the bus.
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There were certain things I didn't know about him myself.
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But Shaquille had no, he didn't, it's the first time you met him.
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So which is my fault, because at the end of the day, not that you regret it or not,
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So that's, inshallah, disclaimer, you can touch upon it more.
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And it looks like I'm going to start with maybe,
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And today we're going to answer this question about men cook and cleaning.
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Looking after his family, like looking after his kids and his wife.
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So if his wife needs help with cooking and cleaning, he should help out 100%.
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And the thing is, she's not your slave, you know what I mean, or anything else.
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You help out with your family, you know what I mean?
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So the thing is, if my wife needs help and she's not well,
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or she's busy with the kids because she's been looking after the kids,
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It's not like providing for them and protecting them.
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That's what my dad taught me to look after your family, you know what I mean?
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So if my wife needs help 100% without doubt, I should help.
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It doesn't make you a weak man or anything like that.
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But there's certain things I want to make a bit clear, yeah?
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My wife is actually the co-producer of this show, by the way.
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All the topics and discussions, we have little debates at home.
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There's two cables that was missing and haven't eaten all day.
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But we are dealing with certain sisters who are having certain demands.
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So, just to make it understand, we're not seeing generally...
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It's a no-brainer, like Shaquille said in the last episode.
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The reason we're discussing this is because we are having, for example, two extremes.
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For example, you're going to tell me to do that?
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Which Brother Mahdi was saying, which we've told him very categorically clear.
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Another extreme is the toxic feminists who are coming and saying,
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And I think there's something to be pondering upon.
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The reason I'm mentioning this is because it's never a talking point.
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You will never see brothers who come and say to their wife,
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why are the sisters not helping their husbands in their work?
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Why is it that, oh, why doesn't he do the hoovering?
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Why is there a discussion point where I don't need to be told to help my wife?
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I'm not sure if I entirely agree, but okay, inshallah.
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Okay, please tell us why you don't, well, that's the reason you're here, sister.
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I think, like, we are starting the conversation on the wrong point.
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We are, like, doing tick for tack when actually this is the massive issue.
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Even the way, like, people have understood the topic is not about I am doing this or you are doing that.
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If I was to think like that, because men's a provider, I have to do this.
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You will never compare your work, like the work of mothers and wives, what they do at home.
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And I do, I do not like the fact that because you are providing, I've got to do all those things.
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And you're not even providing like our fathers used to do.
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You are sitting most of the time in front of a screen.
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So please, let's just put this as well out there.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, generally speaking, no, we're out of three years of corona.
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But the way, like, the brother last time was describing like 40, I'm working 40, it's like he's sweating.
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We're most likely doing more physical work than most men's maybe today.
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Of course, like, for me, the first role of the man is not cleaning, is not cooking.
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And I know that sisters have to take some accountability because they expect it.
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They have this mentality, feminism or whatever, that, yes, the husband has to.
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He does it out of compassion and out of rahmah.
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I am happy and proud to be able to serve a husband.
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There is no, like, ego attitude that today, women are trying to, like, feel like, oh, yes, no, it's submissive.
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That discussion between husband and wife should be done.
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Like, the thing is, if my wife goes, she's working and stuff, can you do a certain amount of the house and I'll do a certain amount of the house?
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There shouldn't be no arguments or nothing like that.
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Then if I'm working a certain amount of hours and she's working as well, you meet.
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I made that decision to work, to look after my family.
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And my wife's decision was to look after the house and look after the kids.
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To protect the wife and the man has to be the provider.
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It's not just you making that choice as a husband.
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And may Allah bless you because, alhamdulillah, I think he helps the marriage, like, stability as well.
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It's something that Allah azawajal is not courageous to do.
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He has encouraged the man to provide for the wife, for the family.
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And for the wife, because naturally it's her nature to take care of the home, because she's generous by nature.
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But the issue I have today, we are talking about societies where the woman has to work as well as the man.
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She is contributing to the providing side of it.
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I'm saying, like, everyone's situation is different.
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And also, sorry, sometimes you said about when, for example, the men are asked to cook and clean and things like that and do things at home.
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But there are certain circumstances that I've seen before in husbands and wives where the husbands have asked the women to contribute or held it over them that they aren't contributing, for example, towards paying.
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But for us, we, alhamdulillah, we make it work because we do a bit of both.
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Like, I do, I work, but my main priority is to stay and look after my children and my husband.
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And I need to know, basically, like, I do expect my husband to cook and clean.
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If I'm not there, then Surtar just looking after my children.
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And I know they're well looked after, they're fed, you know, and everything.
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So I do feel like, bottom line, yes, a man should, you know, cook and clean.
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And one thing, just a disclaimer, because we're dealing with trolls.
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Our dear sister is, she's in the way of wearing hijab.
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Because I know people are going to be like, oh, but she's not.
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The sister, alhamdulillah, may Allah bless her.
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This sister and sister Amira, they were having a go at her.
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And the way she was getting attacked, just that, because fear Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
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Hijab is not forced, and that's a person, you know, it's my wife's choice.
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She doesn't have to wear it for me, she has to wear it for Allah, you know?
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The thing is, I know maybe you might force your women to wear it,
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but they're wearing it because of your fear, not of Allah's fear.
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And that's the one thing that we need to understand.
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Another thing I want to say, especially with the revert sisters,
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don't do that to them, because so many sisters are pushed away from Islam
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And think about bringing someone into Islam, it's such a rewarding thing.
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And you know a lot of people don't realise that.
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You call someone to good and get the good off there, yeah?
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What about if you're the reason why someone left Islam?
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Or if you're the reason why a sister who's trying to wear the hijab
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And I want to add as well on that, because modesty, you know,
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That this sister, like, hijab doesn't define my level of faith.
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And Sister Amirah was defined for maybe her hijab not being perfect,
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when actually, alhamdulillah, she may have more qualities than all of us.
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But coming back to the topic, just coming back to the topic,
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What sister, forgive me the name, sister Brian, sister?
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Brian, sister Brian, may Allah bless her, yeah?
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But the point is here, like, for example, Sister Soul said,
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Because the thing is now, what's happening is that
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What that means is, oh, like, and this discussion causes...
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Actually, I would say that the sister's side, it is belittled.
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Like, a woman's job starts at the minute she gets up
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and ends the minute she goes to bed, doesn't it?
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Men, if they come home, if a man comes home and goes,
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Like, if a person comes and says, what did you do?
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I might be wrong, but I don't hear the discussion of
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men coming and saying this, but rather the reason why
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there's a phenomena among sisters who are feminist
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They are saying, oh, but when you come home from work,
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Look, if I want to, if I come home and I see my wife
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To be like, oh, no, but I'm an alpha male, red pill.
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The point is, though, you do not, some people do not see
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So the thing is here is that when men are doing work,
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it's kind of like, just because we don't visually see it.
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But they don't see dad lifting up those bricks.
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No, I'm the first one to praise, alhamdulillah.
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I've seen loads of situations that a lot of women bring their man down
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and they're not giving the woman what she needs.
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They obviously feel underappreciated to be digging their husband out
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just as your hard work outside the house is respected.
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A lot of relationships, a lot of marriages out there
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because the woman has to look after the husband.
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It's having that respect and love for each other.
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And the thing is, like my wife says to my kids,
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Brother Shaquille, Michael, we're going to come to you guys.
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Because we, like, well, I came across your content
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She basically, she already got in contact with the team, yeah?
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those two years were the best years of my life because I got to see both sides
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so I got to see both sides I got to see the independent you know working woman who was
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almost I wouldn't even say almost I was a feminist you know I was very full girls do your thing
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get your own money we don't need a man sort of kind of mentality and then getting married
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having my baby it Allah put this rahma in my heart you know alhamdulillah and slowly but surely I
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started to see the hard work that he was doing and even though I'm working from home and I've still
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got the child he was still working and me looking after her and seeing her first words and him coming
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home to a nice clean house with food and then you know us some buddies we love our auntsy you know
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the fragrance putting that on and just having that that lovely evening it just it made my heart
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swell and I started to do a little bit more research into like traditional female and male roles and
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that's when I started to see that it's I'm not seeing all of this around me in fact the traditional
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female role is pushed down and it's sort of ridiculed and people look down on it and they're
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like oh you know you're he's taking you know he's he's taking advantage of you it's and and that's
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not really the case because where I'm going to work I'm putting my hard work into this company
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some fat cat at the top of the company is getting all the benefit but when I'm at home I'm seeing the
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benefit in my husband and my children and my home and that to you and and to me as well
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describe the happiness oh my god I loved it the balance particularly you know my maternity leave
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where I actually even have to focus on work and he would go to work his stomach is full he's coming
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home you know if he's in a bad mood I can see that I'm not trying to jump on him because you know men
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for us females we like to talk and kind of connect whereas for them they want to disconnect and deal
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with it because who do they have to talk to they can't moan to their friends they can't moan to their
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families they can't moan to their wives because we don't always make ourselves emotional available
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even to welcome them their stress yes the difficulties we we like I had enough already
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to make your kids and then yeah yeah you get some women out yeah and your your kids made my life
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yeah so your kids now and I joined you when you said because it's only when I was hard working
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and very stressed that I understood like what it takes for a man I want to come home I want to have
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some meal yeah I want to have calm I want to have like you know what a smiling partner the recipe
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is so simple if you think about it yeah like you you guys would agree yeah home wife with a smiley face
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greeting you that's it nice food yeah and just sit next to me I mentioned this another thing I go yeah
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I just like the presence of my wife there and then the feminists were like is she a pet she goes
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is she a pet what joke but but my ex-husband was like that as well sometimes you're a pet to sit
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next to him and he wouldn't that we don't need to talk it's just but for that thing to happen
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sisters men needs to as well help and support the wife so when she comes when they come they let
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she's less tired she's available she's prioritizing the men but for that sometimes she needs a bit of
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support and say you know what let's cook let's put the dinner the kids to bed and we can have some time
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together okay okay so I just finish your point there's you want to ask a question yeah
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we'll just we'll just just one just hold it just one second are you finished um no I was just gonna
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say so I think the answer to the question is and when it's put in the terms should as in is it an
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obligation is it a duty no I don't think it's a duty or an obligation on the man to help clean and cook
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and do everything and I'm talking about the man who's providing protecting and the actual man that
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you know Allah wants for us I don't think it should be a duty or obligation or he should
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but with dealing with each other with empathy with love and you see that your wife is tired
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if he's that good man he is gonna want to help you exactly yeah he's going to want to do it
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he should be able to but he shouldn't have to thank you thank you that's that's essentially the point
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that I'm making yeah may Allah bless you sister Surah we've got a question this is a new concept we're
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doing by the way we have some people who are listening um don't worry don't worry the camera's gonna it's
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not gonna go to you yeah so um these are these are guests who are listening um so sister Tara yeah
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okay yes it's Tara so um can we have the camera no no you're not gonna okay it's the it's the wide
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angle she won't be in it you won't be in it sister sit down okay okay sister you want to ask a
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question another question for audience in answering that question scenarios where we mean work out of
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choice I mean they're just doing it because they feel like you know mum at home mum you know it's
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right so it's a purely a personal choice that they want to leave they want to go work yeah but
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other circumstances where the man's income and she has to work she's stepping in to support him in
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his role but I would say there's two answers to that yeah oh she's choosing so she's choosing to work
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out of her own option then in that scenario I would say so so look I would say that there's two answers
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to that and we have to use logic here right if your husband is providing for your home and um he's
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protecting he's doing everything he's supposed to do you know ticking all the boxes you cannot now say
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to him after doing 15 16 hours shift at home I'm tired come and help me like and and and doing it in
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an aggressive manner in the manner where you expect him like he like almost like you know he has to
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but we're in in your second question if you're both working then this is the point of being a
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husband and wife you both haven't had this for each other you had that the empathy in your heart
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where you both understand right teamwork right you go do this I go do this bam bam bam the quicker
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everything's done it's just whatever works for your family I don't think there's a generic answer for
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everything it's whatever works for your family but also I think we also need to understand and
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start from a basic point of you know this is a woman's this is the woman's role this is the man's
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role and then from there once you understand what that is you then do whatever's right for your family
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exactly just to mention by the way nakhris means mercy guys uh yeah yeah that's what it means just uh
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so so basically um it's important and what you said is important sister here as well is that we are we
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are not talking about these exceptions okay we're not talking about I think anyone in their right mind if
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if their wife has to work and they have to work I mean the man has to look like there is sister that
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sister sawad may Allah bless her who even though she was working she was still doing meal prep etc
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whatever yeah okay from her mercy the fact that she she cares about her you know ex-husband whoever
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might be yeah but the point is this we're talking about dynamics where the man is the provider and the
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woman she's at home but she has this um idea ideas that's been fed into of oh are you just a um a
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a housewife just are you just the housewife oh miskeen are you is that does he help in the house
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these shaitans I call them iblises yeah little iblises yeah none of the iblises yeah who are breaking the
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household and there's studies that show women are more influenced easily influenced than men all you need
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is a friend to come and say to you did you really do that do you know things like she doesn't do it
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oh that little plant of shaitan yeah with with men i don't know if we do it yeah but again the discussion
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comes to let's talk about this yeah because if for example like if that would be my wife i wouldn't
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allow this you know boy like she's doing this like what no no no i don't think a real man would accept
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that no no no if a man you know why you know why because a man is logical he's not emotional
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because and if you're emotional if someone comes and says oh my gosh my husband exactly exactly
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a lot of the time uh a lot of the time when when especially as a man if you have a friend that
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comes up to you and has something to say about your relationship as ali said well he can't cross
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that mark bro a lot of the time you better not cross that mark a lot of the time if they have
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something to say if they have a very close friend i'm talking about very close friend and he feels that
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maybe his missus isn't treating him right he would say well michael don't you know don't you find that a
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a bit a bit weird it's very important to know that as a man like from your friend telling you
00:27:46.540
that it's very important because sometimes when we do think with our heart the person outside the
00:27:50.300
race relationship definitely sees it from a more logical standpoint it's very important to hear
00:27:55.020
their opinion exactly and we have another episode which we're going to talk about should married
00:27:59.020
couple have single friends and this all pertains to how a woman can be influenced because we'll come
00:28:03.660
to that after but do you see the points uh shakir yeah so i'm gonna throw it somewhere else just
00:28:08.380
from a different angle i think we pretty much all agree with everything that's been said i don't
00:28:12.540
see this because if i remember from the last episode you didn't make it very that clear or maybe maybe
00:28:19.340
it was us misunderstanding and i want to give you the hack of maybe explaining yourself because
00:28:23.980
sometimes we say a thing and we're thinking something else and maybe it's not fair on us to
00:28:28.540
that's fine i'm glad you said that it's not fair it's not fair um and i didn't even though you gave
00:28:33.820
me a good little intro earlier i'm just saying like uh the way that it went wasn't too fair i
00:28:37.820
just want to make it clear i never once asked ali to try and stand up for me or any of the other
00:28:42.700
brothers or sisters that were on the panel um one thing i just want to make clear i want to make it
00:28:47.260
just about myself but i feel like the way the angle the last podcast went uh it went completely left
00:28:55.020
i'm not in no islamic world right now personally okay i know this might cheese a lot of people off i said
00:29:00.460
it on my live the other day and it got people really upset the fact that i said i don't class
00:29:04.300
myself as a practicing muslim i'm not here i'm gonna let me explain myself first i know i didn't
00:29:10.300
say much on the last podcast and there was a reason to why i didn't say much on the last podcast but let
00:29:14.860
me do things in chronological order okay because a lot of weird strange things have been said and
00:29:20.940
accusations and just an unjust standpoint from a lot of my fellow muslim brothers and sisters
00:29:25.980
i'm a revert number one for me to see a whole muslim community or my whole loving brothers
00:29:31.100
and muslims that i would literally sacrifice anything for to literally nitpick the fact that
00:29:36.380
i was silent on a podcast for a little while or i didn't want to speak on the podcast about the
00:29:40.540
particular topic and to go and change it to some crazy narrative as if i agreed with the other people
00:29:45.260
that were on the podcast it's crazy i was disheartened and i was disappointed why because i'm always the guy
00:29:50.460
from young and even being a muslim if i from what i understood the dean that i i was attracted to
00:29:56.700
was maybe a bit different to the dean that is now being practiced the dean that i saw being
00:30:01.100
practiced was make excuses for your brothers the dean that i saw that attracted me to islam is
00:30:06.700
if someone makes a mistake you know try to look for the good and leave the bad but now it's completely
00:30:12.060
different it looks like try to find the bad and any good that he does dismiss it so that's how i took
00:30:16.700
that one now the reason why i didn't speak on that podcast is because there was a podcast that was
00:30:21.820
previously recorded literally what 20 minutes or an hour before that podcast and i accidentally slipped
00:30:27.580
up and said something and i'm going to say it now and for whoever's offended or if it needs to get
00:30:30.700
bleeped out it can get bleeped out i said something and i said i was giving advice to the younger men
00:30:35.340
for younger men if that were struggling uh with finding a good woman or struggling in relationships i was
00:30:41.580
like bro it's not always about just trying to find the opposite sex sometimes learn to practice
00:30:46.300
semen retention now ali kind of nag like after the podcast said shakil try not to use words like
00:30:51.900
that and i was like okay cool i get it yeah no problem so what happened with was bearing in mind
00:30:58.060
i was like when i said earlier i don't class myself as a practicing muslim because i don't feel like i do
00:31:03.740
the practical things that i should be doing as a practical muslim i do not believe that i am on my
00:31:08.700
dean now i know everyone on social media really wants to portray that they are a very good practicing
00:31:13.900
muslim me i look at the realities from the books that i read and from the little knowledge i have
00:31:18.300
about islam i don't class myself as a practicing muslim i don't say that out of boast i'm not saying
00:31:23.820
it out of um uh you know like i'm not proud of it i'm very shameful about it i'm just trying to
00:31:29.820
deliver some context to who i am and why i came here now being in this nasty disgusting unpracticing
00:31:36.940
environment okay reading between the lines a haram environment that i've been in for the last four years
00:31:42.220
okay i have been making dua ya Allah please get me out of this nasty filthy environment and try and
00:31:48.700
provide for me a halal alternative for me to do something positive i know Ali off of the camera
00:31:55.180
i know him personally he's not this social media guy like he might be for everybody else that watches
00:31:59.820
this podcast i know his mum his mum knows me his mum always asks how is Shaquille doing because
00:32:05.580
soon as my mother passed away Ali was there for me more than anybody else was so me and Ali have a
00:32:10.940
relationship off of the camera so Ali called me and said Shaquille why don't you come on this podcast
00:32:15.260
maybe it can boost what you're doing i.e the things that you want to do for a positive change
00:32:19.820
you might be able to come here and do a positive change i said no problem is it going to cause me
00:32:23.980
any negative you know this whole negative toxic muslim tiktok that's gone he's like no bro it's going to be
00:32:29.020
fine i'll go on there i didn't know who the brother was next to me cool which is my fault no problem
00:32:34.540
no problem at all listen you still didn't do anything wrong i didn't know who the brother was
00:32:38.860
next to me cool um the topic personally i did you and so i see one brother that was like oh if you knew
00:32:46.380
what the podcast is about and probably people in the room and people watching i was like well why did
00:32:50.140
you go on the podcast then i can sometimes sometimes it's not always just what you think on your side of
00:32:56.860
the camera there was more depth to what happened so the reason why i come into the podcast number one
00:33:00.860
and he's my friend and i never told ali no same way he never tells me no secondly that was the
00:33:05.660
second podcast recorded where i slipped up and said the semen retention remark i said you know what
00:33:10.300
let me be even more careful about what i say on the second film podcast which was the one that
00:33:15.740
the one that went viral i kept my mouth shut for a reason far as i was concerned
00:33:20.860
or far as i am concerned the prophet peace be upon him said if you haven't got anything good to
00:33:25.180
say shut your mouth so guess what i did i shut my mouth and now people are saying well why did you
00:33:29.820
you could keep quiet why did you keep quiet you can't win you can't win you can't win look look
00:33:34.700
some people come to the podcast just to talk bro i admire the fact that you was like bro i don't
00:33:38.140
think there's anything that i can and you was quiet but i admired that because you would have come here
00:33:41.820
and talk for the sake of it to whatever it may be but you didn't so the thing is like at the end of
00:33:45.900
the day you know people like like i said before bro they'll pick on you they'll pick on sister
00:33:49.340
amira's hijab they'll pick on the way i'm sitting yeah they'll pick on your haircut yeah they'll pick on
00:33:53.660
everything so yeah they would yeah they would but listen listen it's like in islam this they
00:34:01.180
say this is not permissible i do the same haircut or it's not haram please leave me alone can i just
00:34:05.740
add something sorry sorry let me just make myself clear because this has been going on for a few
00:34:09.740
weeks and it's made it's made do you know it's not necessarily because i want to just prove that i'm
00:34:14.380
right i'm mr wrong like i said i don't think i am mr right in anything here um i'm just feeling i'm
00:34:20.140
i'm thinking about other people other muslims other people that were thinking to convert to
00:34:24.780
islam and they see the negative responses and the negative comments underneath every single video
00:34:31.500
every single tiktok video the negative sisters that wear hijab that do negative videos on brothers
00:34:37.500
the negative videos of brothers that got beers down to their chest and do these toxic little but we
00:34:42.940
have to think as well about the people that felt offended i'm sorry it's the continuous negative
00:34:48.140
things so let me finish my side and anyone can say what they want after this this is the people
00:34:52.220
that i'm trying to give a bit more okay i didn't want to even come today it's only because of those
00:34:56.460
people that i know that might be a bit confused or they might be sincere they want to understand
00:35:00.300
what did brother shaquille romero actually mean by this why did he come on the podcast i'm now making
00:35:04.540
it clear for the sincere individuals out there so anyway that's why i didn't say anything also
00:35:09.020
the fact i was sitting next to mahdi is not a problem i'm a grown man before i'm a muslim i'm a
00:35:15.020
grown man or it's hand in hand i'm a grown muslim man if i want to come on this podcast right now
00:35:20.140
and dance like a clown i don't need the whole muslim communities approve approve um what's the
00:35:25.740
word i don't approve all to say yes brother yes you can do it i'm a grown man if i want to dance i
00:35:31.340
dance if i want to sit on a podcast silent i can stay silent same way if the sisters want to stay
00:35:35.740
silent they can stay silent so you have to confront the consequences no no there's no and have some
00:35:40.620
accountability no no problem and this is what i'm dealing with now please please i'm dealing with
00:35:45.340
it right now if you just wait you will hear me clear clear everything up because as i'm clearing
00:35:49.660
it up you're still saying can you clear it up let me clear it up if mahdi or like same way or if you
00:35:56.060
look in um piers morgan when piers morgan invites people into his podcast he invites murderers um
00:36:05.020
he invites uh there's certain things i don't want to say yeah i know pedophiles we can go on we can go on
00:36:09.660
yeah we can go does not mean that he agrees with the ideology ideologies or the mentality that the
00:36:15.260
person is who he's sitting next to oprah winfrey oprah winfrey invites again the same types of nasty
00:36:21.580
people in society doesn't mean that oprah winfrey agrees with them clearly but within our community
00:36:26.780
people nitpick yeah but you've got to absolutely make it clear okay the sister i believe a mirror
00:36:31.420
because i didn't want to watch the video back because it was just like how could people not see what
00:36:35.660
i meant it's like you know when you're trying to find a fault in someone you will convince yourself
00:36:39.500
there's a fault in someone so i believe sorry to keep pointing i believe the sister when mirror
00:36:44.140
said she turned around to me and she goes so she killed would you do the dishes my words were so
00:36:48.460
clear i said of course yeah no problem but they don't want to do that bro but they wanted me and
00:36:54.220
other people maybe people in the panel as well wanted me to go yada yada yada yada yada yada and
00:36:58.380
keep on talking about my the passion how much passion i have about doing dishes bro no you don't
00:37:02.620
i don't right i don't have zero passion so then when the mic was passed me by yourself and said
00:37:07.900
to me so she kill it doesn't mean i wouldn't but i don't love it like if i need to help my wife i
00:37:12.300
would but the issue is there was clips going around this what is bro clips clips bro if you watch the
00:37:16.540
full podcast i'm so sorry even though mahdi was here yeah not everything he said was totally wrong
00:37:21.420
there was a lot of wrong he said but there was you didn't watch the full look look watch the full
00:37:25.260
podcast what what the brother mahdi said yeah and again listen i don't agree with the i don't
00:37:31.260
agree with mahdi he's a muslim brother so he's still my brother in islam i don't agree with other
00:37:35.340
people maybe on this platform today you're still my sisters you're still my brothers i still love
00:37:39.260
you for the sake of allah maybe some of you said some really little spiteful sarcastic comments on
00:37:43.900
social media which i saw and just wipe them off cool you're still my brother and my sister i love
00:37:48.460
you for the sake of allah what i just don't like it's just that it's not even about what i don't
00:37:53.260
like it's just right or wrong anyway as i was saying the brother mahdi people were like oh
00:37:56.860
yeah but he was laughing i'm again i'm a grown man if i want he said some funny things there were
00:38:01.500
sisters that were on the panel but sometimes they take seriously some people say you're not
00:38:04.780
serious you can't be serious bro i can you remember after i said to him i know what you're doing you're
00:38:08.060
just utilizing this the same way andrew tape did to make to make a conspiracy like do you think that's
00:38:13.500
what i was so surprised at is that there's grown adults that have gone over the age of puberty
00:38:20.380
that i was watching mahdi and was getting really triggered by what he was saying to me maybe i'm
00:38:25.180
just good at reading the room to me i was looking at this guy like you're just a marketing genius
00:38:29.500
yeah you're triggering people like this but all just all the small-minded insecure muslims that
00:38:35.260
can't think further than their face like we must protest against this guy what a horrible thing he
00:38:40.060
come on man look past the guy i can clearly see he's smart and he's utilizing people's vulnerable
00:38:46.300
small-minded um weaknesses against them and straight away everyone got triggered look at this
00:38:51.420
look at this guy look at everyone sitting next to him and you know what happened it's not even
00:38:54.540
embarrassing for him it's embarrassing about it's embarrassing for all of the muslims that got
00:38:58.700
triggered so quickly and so easily look how vulnerable and how quickly you can get triggered
00:39:02.940
can we talk about the one that agree with him now i don't think i don't need the biggest concern of the
00:39:09.020
for me the biggest concern of the podcast like the brother and he said he's allowed to invite
00:39:13.100
whoever he wants but i will interject that when you bring someone like that that is
00:39:18.140
doing a marketing propaganda he's coming for his own truth he's not coming to discuss i might learn
00:39:24.700
from you i might learn something from you my brothers even if i disagree on some things i will agree
00:39:29.660
with you on certain things and i will bring the respect but there is no man there is no grown man
00:39:35.580
with a right mindset that follows quran and sunnah is where everyone else keeps on pretending
00:39:39.740
that they follow okay that can look at brother methi in their right mindset and say yes absolutely
00:39:45.980
right yes follow him and agree with him i do not want to know where the salt is okay then then these
00:39:51.260
brothers if there are brothers out there if there are brothers like that then brothers wake up don't
00:39:55.660
be so silly so you have to interject with him you have to challenge him no no but that was not as a
00:40:01.820
muslim as a human being if you watch the full podcast this one i'm seeing no i'm sorry i came today
00:40:05.980
no no no i'm going to go to brother but i want to say something you guys look let me tell you
00:40:10.700
something majority of people did not watch the podcast he come to me and saw that little snippet
00:40:14.700
why did you make the snippet like that as well who done where's the end where's the end
00:40:18.060
me me me i don't know did you edit it i did edit it brother hold me why did you edit it like that
00:40:23.820
you know why you know why he's gonna take that part by the way he's gonna do that
00:40:27.980
i was just like no way you've done it like that
00:40:30.380
like i was agreeing with everyone exactly and brother ali you have to take some responsibility
00:40:34.700
on that and you know like i'm your sister who tell you when you're wrong i disagree on certain
00:40:40.380
part that you do you use the snippet and he's not fair he's not representative and he does trigger
00:40:46.140
you're doing the same thing that he did but can i just say something why do we care so much about
00:40:51.340
people's emotions and their feelings why are you not adult enough to control your own self and if you
00:40:57.180
don't like the way someone is saying something you go go get the help that you need it's not my
00:41:01.980
job to sit there and think okay x y and z might be triggered if he wants to come on a podcast and
00:41:06.620
talk you know all whatever he's saying for views that's up to him if you you know we're adult enough
00:41:11.980
to kind of are you talking about can i can i can i just because that's different okay guys guys guys
00:41:17.740
one second one second guys once you're talking over each other by the way you have a bit of buzzer you
00:41:20.860
can press it yeah one and a half minute i forgot to introduce yeah yeah can i just say something
00:41:25.740
can i just say please don't stitch me up on the on the clip can you just do anyone but me okay so
00:41:31.500
just one disclaimer yeah like uh why do you aki to me it was very simple you had certain objectives
00:41:35.580
number one was i wanted i was double-minded about inviting matty i spoke to some brothers i spoke to
00:41:39.900
myself he said bro it's gonna be really controversial i said bro look you know i don't agree with you
00:41:43.660
you know i've done videos refuting you you said it with your own mouth i but the videos are clear
00:41:47.900
you get what i'm trying to say so i said i want to understand you better because are you as
00:41:52.460
well your wife your wife birth upstairs and you're downstairs are you really that evil bro i don't
00:41:56.940
think so i said sit down so he came now when i do those clips bro i what i do is bro i put i put the
00:42:02.540
bits in so people can watch the whole thing which people don't maybe that's my fault but in the podcast
00:42:06.780
bro just two things mentioned number one he came and said oh you know if i'm doing this and then about
00:42:11.660
this woman who was plotting against her husband for 10 years and she saved up i said bro where's the
00:42:15.500
effectiveness from the sharia number one number two when he talked about his wife i said bro you're
00:42:19.420
sinful you're telling me a full context now but on your instagram post you were saying oh but she's
00:42:24.700
giving birth upstairs uh all the best babes and i said it doesn't trigger no no but sister one second
00:42:29.820
he came and he even said i heard matty say which i couldn't believe that he would do the dishes
00:42:35.340
matty said on this show that he would do the dishes i was shocked i said bro are you okay all of us
00:42:39.420
agreed to do bro did you watch that bit no i didn't in all honesty i didn't see that either
00:42:44.780
so i came in a little bit yes so what i'm saying is this year this is the problem you know what
00:42:48.700
happens they watch the first 10 minutes yeah that's not my problem let me tell you something
00:42:52.620
matty said i couldn't believe i said bro is this a new matty i said so you don't mind doing the dishes
00:42:56.060
because yeah bro if she's working and i'm working can i just say something maybe about the brother
00:43:00.140
shakir because i watched the whole thing if i can just finish this point please brother
00:43:03.420
then i'm gonna go to and then she loves to speak the the the the point is this yes that's true a lot
00:43:07.260
people say that actually but i have to i'm not just the host yeah because if there's there's
00:43:10.300
speculations yeah i have to clear those because the process the prophet peace be upon him was
00:43:14.380
walking with his wife and some sahabas saw him and he had to go to them and say this is my wife by
00:43:18.460
the way yeah he said oh mystery of allah of course but he said shaitan runs through the vein of adam
00:43:21.900
so it is the duty upon the one who's been misunderstood i have to clarify myself yeah just like shakir did
00:43:26.060
yeah it's from the sunnah so the point is this just to finish is that when i was doing this stuff he
00:43:30.940
came bro he admitted that he would help his wife man the red people say number two number two number
00:43:36.380
two when it came to him not helping his wife giving birth alone he gave full context the midwife came
00:43:42.140
my daughter was there and i said bro you're sinful for that so watch the full podcast do you know what
00:43:47.500
sorry sorry do you know what i have to say yeah and as a man we need to own up to our mistakes yeah
00:43:54.380
we we made a number of mistakes number one um now we didn't say any mistakes verbally but i think just
00:44:00.540
for the sake of some of our sisters that are not as like just because we're good at reading the room and
00:44:05.900
we couldn't take him seriously we should we don't know what we should have done we should have
00:44:11.660
maybe opposed his points more clear now seeing that but no no no no listen no no no it's not
00:44:20.140
it's not that bad no no no because i never knew people don't know you're tired i never i never would
00:44:25.180
i would never assume so small i would never i never thought muslims would think so small-mindedly i
00:44:30.300
never thought they would be so vulnerable and gullible to believe in him but now i've seen okay
00:44:35.100
well people were can can see what uh that it looked like we was agreeing with him and we had we had to
00:44:42.220
basically protest against him yeah yeah and then and then that was the last thing there were some
00:44:47.180
things he was even now let's say let's say i don't know let's bring someone like andrew tape who i
00:44:52.220
disagree i agree with some of the things he says and agree with a lot of i disagree with a lot of the
00:44:55.820
things he says he says some things that i disagree with completely yeah excuse me but it's funny and
00:45:01.500
i will laugh but it doesn't mean but my mistake was laughing sometimes thank you because it looks
00:45:06.700
like i was agreeing with him but as muslims as muslims can thank you it's the rules don't forget what you
00:45:17.900
said yeah sorry it's the rules yeah uh one and a half minute by the way just disclaimer i'm counting her
00:45:22.620
down not because i want to stop her because she has a right to speak one and a half minutes for
00:45:25.660
the feminine sisters yeah because they were accusing me of stopping the mirror why was
00:45:28.620
you counting down we're trying to stop her anyway sister uh ira you have one and a half minutes
00:45:32.540
go okay so first of all i want to own up because you mentioned it was quite a few people and i was
00:45:37.340
one of them one of them one of them we had a little thing on tiktok where i questioned you
00:45:42.460
oh so it was you i thought it was a troll account that was me that was i thought it was a troll
00:45:45.660
account okay let's listen if you had gone into the page you would have known i'm so disappointed in
00:45:49.740
you sister okay one minute go ahead i have my reasons so first of all it's not so much that
00:45:55.020
you weren't disagreeing with him it was more the fact that there are men out there and i know i hear
00:46:00.700
you you're i hear you loud and clear when you say that for someone who follows the sun and the quran
00:46:05.500
that they obviously shouldn't really believe in what he said fair enough however how many men how
00:46:11.260
many real men actually follow the sun and the quran it's right as i know the only sun that men follow
00:46:15.820
is when it comes to multiple wives the other thing is that people like mahdi have given men who think
00:46:22.700
like him power they've given him they've given them a voice and whether they are abusive men or whether
00:46:28.860
they are disrespectful or whatever form of shape he may be now they're going to go and be like yeah
00:46:32.620
well see look i'm not the only one who thinks like that yeah and that that was my issue right there
00:46:37.340
because it's like you may i i could tell why he was doing i was sitting right opposite him but that's not
00:46:42.860
the point the point is that there are men who are so sick in the head young they will and they're
00:46:48.380
young they're not they're immature and they are looking for excuse to justify the silliness 25
00:46:53.340
seconds exactly and and for you like i respect you as you said you will die for your brothers and
00:46:58.140
sisters but then for you to laugh with him and just to not to say actually hold on laughing at him
00:47:03.660
even yeah but how am i supposed to know okay i can't read your mind okay and secondly it's like
00:47:09.500
you're sitting right next to him and you know both of you i don't feel like anyone truly stood up for
00:47:14.220
the sisters yeah but you didn't stand up for the sisters no no but i did try and you said to me
00:47:19.260
on on tiktok to go back right so it was you i never knew it was you was it was it was it was it
00:47:23.500
but then you did exactly what he did because then you told me to go and do the dishes in the end did you do
00:47:27.660
them i didn't know i didn't know it was you it's like a troll account guys guys guys that's why
00:47:35.020
you should have just dm me like adults instead of writing something you made a comment on exactly
00:47:39.340
nothing to do with you sister and so then i just went in guys we've all agreed we've made mistakes
00:47:44.700
you ask oh i put my hands up yeah i should have been a bit more firm i'll be honest like you
00:47:48.380
shouldn't have invite him no no sorry he's a lying person he's using your podcast no no no no let me
00:47:56.300
listen from that point you're allowed to invite anyone you want even if they completely
00:48:01.020
opposite your views my issue here we are talking about a manipulative you know that the way he
00:48:08.460
he's a lying manipulative person he's a danger to the umai he's a danger to the youth
00:48:16.940
if we didn't have a person like menti Mehdi here would we know people like that exist
00:48:22.060
it's like a learning thing for us you know what i mean
00:48:24.540
their brother shaquille didn't know that what kind of person he was i was like that first when
00:48:28.060
i saw him on social media i was the one of the first person recorded his life and i was thinking
00:48:32.620
what's his brother going through like he must be having a like a life crisis or something like
00:48:36.780
that how can you talk about single mothers like this and that i was the first one who pulled him up
00:48:41.100
i was the first one who had a live with him but that guy is he's all about putting people out
00:48:45.980
there and he does have followers we have to put him down he's a cancer to the umai no he's a danger
00:48:51.020
he does he does have followers because the followers yeah he does have followers the
00:48:55.820
followers start attacking me i didn't care because the thing is what he's doing he's doing wrong he's
00:49:01.020
he's advising the youngsters in the wrong way when the people are not married the youngsters they're
00:49:06.540
thinking about this guy i want to be like this guy i want to treat my wife as a slave and all this
00:49:10.700
that this is wrong this is wrong all about the manhood and the masculinity okay stand up for
00:49:17.660
your sister okay all right listen listen why are we russian listen listen we're not russian we're not
00:49:22.380
russian things are calm it's no one's russian i feel like russian no no no we can carry on from
00:49:26.940
a viewer's point of view i'm gonna come to michael let's relax one second one second number one look
00:49:30.940
yeah um there was a sister who's done a video calling uh me a misogynist yeah okay um i've done more
00:49:36.700
for uh female muslim woman well i'm not saying this for arrogance just because she pointed out
00:49:40.140
yeah i've done more than you can ever do in your life can we not give certain people platforms that
00:49:45.260
they want bro exactly but let's not even talk about the point the point i'm just trying to make is the
00:49:48.300
following okay um is that i like i said before i've challenged him before hijab is done spoken to
00:49:54.620
him before i've done videos look that's done and dusted anyone that's got a mind will understand that
00:49:59.100
i've learned my mistakes in the context where i think i should have been a bit more firm but because he's
00:50:03.740
my guest i don't want to be rude to him i'll be honest with you but again as well brothers that
00:50:08.300
were able to have the knowledge and the ability to destroy every single thing you were saying
00:50:14.140
that's your responsibility brother you're the host sister so what he brought there was we
00:50:18.060
we challenged him but you need to tell me what did he bring from the sharia there were certain
00:50:21.500
points he made which were valid no no no no you can't say nothing we have to be just are you
00:50:25.180
telling me everything matthi said was uh no i'm so sorry i am not interested in what he has to
00:50:30.620
say no no no bring people that's gonna i'm i'm interested your intention what is your intention
00:50:35.100
with this show so i'm interested in what he has to say and when he said something about the protein
00:50:39.340
wife he got refuted and anything else i was saying i was saying okay there's nothing there's nothing
00:50:43.500
in the sharia sisters sister so what do you mean like for example i'm saying did they say anything
00:50:48.780
against the sharia that we was like oh yeah that's yeah beat your wife up you go yes smash it in the
00:50:54.300
head i don't understand what did what did he say in that context by the way by the way i'm gonna give it to you
00:50:59.980
by the way i need to have everyone pray to us i'm going to pray us let the show continue you guys
00:51:03.820
continue the the discussion please i'll be back in uh five minutes because i need to pray yeah
00:51:08.300
i give him a leadership yeah i'm on leadership okay i'll sit in there
00:51:17.660
don't fall off the chair okay please please assist him okay what i want to say is i've seen uh
00:51:23.900
brother ali dawa himself first of all when mahdi come out he was uh done a video on him
00:51:29.580
muhammad hijab um put him in his place so the thing is i personally think when he come on this
00:51:35.500
podcast i thought he might be a changed person but with people like that sometimes they don't change
00:51:39.580
but you know we can pray for him but that's what i do feel like sisters out there will be really
00:51:45.260
upset because i didn't watch the full podcast but it did sound awful the bits that i did here i
00:51:50.620
didn't want to listen to anymore it sounded like they were all in agreeance and i feel like sisters
00:51:54.780
will just feel like they want whoever's on the show to show a real equal thing and understanding
00:52:01.260
100 honestly yeah i was at home i i will lie here i'm not here to get clout or to get like a social
00:52:07.740
media following i don't care yeah especially in muslim tiktok i can't stand it yeah because i feel
00:52:12.140
it's really toxic okay yeah so i didn't leave this place here thinking oh yeah this video is going to go
00:52:17.980
viral i'm going to get i just left like normal i didn't think it was going to go so bad about
00:52:23.260
five six days after i saw a clip of the podcast i said oh my god this looks mad yeah this looks like
00:52:29.820
all of us i don't even know the other brother's name brother if you're watching now the bull brother
00:52:34.140
yeah yeah he was like yeah this is man haha i was just like that's it really but you know what that
00:52:39.420
even really riled me up no of course it would listen not even because it was two other wasn't it
00:52:44.060
yeah listen just as almost just that forget the sisters that was sitting there i felt really bad
00:52:48.860
were you there i felt really it wasn't like that she was there yeah i didn't even know what to say
00:52:53.500
and the fact that nobody else was no no no it was it looked 10 times no it looked 10 times more
00:52:58.940
that clip made it 10 times more worse but i can understand why my sisters were talking back
00:53:03.580
don't invite him on here because that just created a massive negative i don't mind people
00:53:10.220
thinking differently as long as he's truthful he has some composure he has respect and he's
00:53:16.140
he's not coming here and doing his propaganda at the same time i think my question is is why do
00:53:20.140
people get so triggered why do you value him so much what is it no no you don't understand
00:53:24.140
the thing is i didn't come i was invited to come and comfort him and i refuse because i'm not
00:53:28.940
interested i don't have that time it's very very sorry to interrupt you it's very very important to
00:53:33.740
invite people that you disagree with as brother said as brother said but she totally agrees with
00:53:38.700
that as brother said it's you learn from your mistakes you can't if you don't listen to anyone
00:53:45.100
that disagrees with you i think the things that he says is completely outlandish um i was with my
00:53:51.340
missus we were watching the video together as we you know we watched brother ali's podcast and i
00:53:56.300
was watching it and i like i was laughing at him you know as brother said we're laughing at him
00:54:00.700
we we're not taking anything he says seriously because the things he is he's a marketing genius
00:54:04.460
it's true 100 we know you are bro and we're still talking about him now at the same at the same at
00:54:11.580
the same time at the same time the people watching now the people watching now can also learn from us
00:54:16.540
as well we disagree with him you can see you're all very very respectful sisters we're respectful
00:54:21.500
they know okay these lot know what they're talking about he he's just saying things to get clout but
00:54:26.220
bottom line i'm really glad that brother here got to clear his because that that hopefully
00:54:31.580
hopefully ali won't cut this all out your part he's gonna edit a certain way where i was where
00:54:36.620
i was talking passionately earlier and say aggressive yeah aggressive revert brother
00:54:40.460
screaming that system especially when he's holding you especially when i would like to go back to the
00:54:46.540
beginning um just of the just of the question i've we've you know we've gone yeah i want to talk
00:54:51.180
about that as well one one thing i would like to say um i'm not as i don't know i'm not as old as
00:54:56.540
you guys i'm 22 so i'm very rude of you to say that's very rude yeah what i would like what i would like
00:55:13.340
to say is um i think we're all in agreement that men if we do come home and our wife is is having
00:55:19.820
trouble and she asked me she asked me michael can you you know can you please help me i'm not gonna
00:55:24.620
turn around and go no that's your job i'll always turn around and as a matter of fact i'm the person
00:55:30.220
to go do you know what honey don't worry about it i'll i'll do the rest of it and i'll finish it
00:55:35.180
because that's that's my mindset i'm a working man i'll come home and i'll say don't worry you go
00:55:39.580
to bed i've got this the kids i'll do it don't worry that's my personality one thing i will say though
00:55:44.940
this is i think a lot of modern day women in my opinion especially western women with the women
00:55:50.300
here white women my people they they don't understand the value of being in the kitchen
00:55:55.740
i know that sounds it's very i know it's a very harsh as a white woman i actually agree with that
00:56:00.380
i think it's very it's a very what did he say i missed i'm so sorry it's modern women in today's
00:56:05.740
society they don't understand the value of being in the kitchen and i know that's a very it's a very
00:56:10.700
it's a big it's a big statement let me register that image that if the modern women do not value
00:56:16.060
being in the kitchen don't understand the value of being in the kitchen because they belong there
00:56:21.020
i'm joking i'm joking i would like to say what i would i've been waiting to say this i've been
00:56:26.300
waiting to say this for a very i've been waiting to say this the whole podcast okay let's just listen
00:56:29.180
to the brother okay the western world it's a very it's a very valuable place to be because as a
00:56:34.780
working man you come home you come home to a dinner you come home to things already done for you we
00:56:39.500
look at you and we think wow we we value you we value you so great much more than the woman we
00:56:47.340
come home we don't want to argue with you one because i've been around masculine energy all day
00:56:52.700
i don't want to come home and i'm arguing with you and you're irritating me now i don't even want to
00:56:56.860
talk to you you're irritating me now furthermore that that's my that's my point what i do want to
00:57:04.460
say what i do want to say sorry brother sorry what i do want to say shout out to my nan because i live
00:57:08.860
with my nan she she she is she's she's very the older generation um housewife i come home
00:57:19.820
traditional housewife i come home and everything's done for me i grew up my nan she brought me in
00:57:26.540
age of five she does everything for me i come home hard work whether it's brit whether it's carpentry
00:57:33.100
out in out in the field whatever it is doesn't matter i come home everything's done for me and
00:57:37.900
i think i'll go up to bed or i have dinner and i'm my clothes ironed my my washing's all done and i
00:57:43.340
think to myself wow if i can get a woman like that i have a missus thank god i have a missus and she
00:57:48.940
understands the value she's recently became muslim as well this is great and she watches the podcast
00:57:54.620
with me you're a great influence as well sometimes but sometimes i make a lot of mistakes okay i'll
00:57:59.260
get refuted hamdulillah though sister soul mashallah brothers uh they're doing a good job hamdulillah
00:58:03.660
but yeah i'll do it for the sake of allah yeah yeah may allah bless you otherwise you think it's one
00:58:07.180
of those if it wasn't for that i would not bring you and i know you want the best it's one of those
00:58:11.340
it's one of those things where i will go to bed and i will think to myself what an amazing woman
00:58:15.660
what a beautiful woman she's you know you better invite you better invite us to
00:58:19.580
it's pardon wolima invite us like a wedding kind of thing oh of course come on of course
00:58:26.300
yeah we want to learn the cooking with your nan i think i i think it's i think it's very important
00:58:31.580
to teach because because i asked my nan how do you know what what did what did they teach you in
00:58:36.220
school the women back then were taught how to cook they were taught how to iron clothes they were
00:58:40.460
taught all the important things of running the household take it easy take it easy they're not
00:58:46.060
they're not they're not they're not taught they're not taught the important things now
00:58:50.700
neither men or women they don't have we're not given we're not given roles we're just we're just
00:58:55.580
we're just right into the world and told you like deal with it and then they're forced an ipad or a
00:59:01.420
phone in their face and young kids are being brought up with the red pill and the complete opposite so
00:59:05.900
now you've got two extreme sides action reaction and there's none you can meet in the middle i remember i
00:59:11.660
remember i remember a year ago maybe a year and a half andrew tate started blowing up i was a bit
00:59:16.460
younger i must have been like 20 i was agreeing with everything he was saying everything he was
00:59:19.660
saying and then he started to go on to the women yeah and he started talking about the women and
00:59:23.500
started talking about how women should do this women should do that did you do that and it's the it's
00:59:28.060
an extreme it's an extreme point of view and it's and it's that's the red pill that that people that
00:59:34.780
us brothers talk about and think i'm not gonna lie it's polluting the mind you need you know that's why i
00:59:39.660
listen to them to my other muslim brothers back home bro i i i done a video when he then people
00:59:45.580
were on me like because i called him a no value man when he was not a muslim when he's not muslim
00:59:49.260
when he accepted something i took the video down yeah okay you and this is what i see bro while
00:59:52.860
like and i see a lot from the system i'm so sorry forgive me with the sisters while you would there's
00:59:57.420
so much stuff like if you know me you know that sister was calling me like a misogynist yeah i said
01:00:01.020
if you knew anything about me like well and i don't do it because i don't need nothing from you
01:00:04.380
allah is my witness well i don't need nothing from you i do it because genuinely wrong when it comes to
01:00:08.860
hijab bro i was one of the first youtubers who spoke about a man's hijab a man's modesty yeah so
01:00:13.580
the thing is i'm balanced i never take one side or the other but the moment i say something about
01:00:17.500
sisters all hell breaks loose bro it's as if they're saying you cannot say nothing to us and
01:00:21.420
let me tell you i will say it but that is the mentality that they have you can't say anything
01:00:26.140
there's no accountability yes zero thank you all whatsoever they hate the word accountability
01:00:30.860
sisters not all not all we've got honorable sisters it's particularly in the modern world thank
01:00:35.500
you sister go on brother takbir sorry for that statement we had to look guys
01:00:39.900
oh yo yo yo let me just finish up no no no i'm coming to you relax do you know what it is i was
01:00:44.380
watching some of the comments you know one of the comments was a lot and he doesn't stop talking
01:00:47.980
yeah i know i know let's talk let's talk and the sister come and said it's like he took so
01:00:52.140
right yeah yeah yeah yeah people listen to me on 0.75 speed okay you got uh you should be a guest
01:00:58.860
honestly you know what bro listen listen listen i'm not a host yeah okay i did this for a reason
01:01:02.860
because i want to say some stuff as well but i talk a lot i'm so sorry forgive me forgive me
01:01:05.740
no no okay it's good okay we're gonna talk in 10 minutes we're gonna 10 minutes you can't win you
01:01:09.180
talk too much i don't talk enough right i got in trouble for that oh anyway today's taking a
01:01:14.380
river and she's like doing the opposite oh but but but do you know what what do you know what frustrates
01:01:19.660
me you know no no do you know what this is me being uh like trying to be in a just way without
01:01:24.940
really acting how i'd want to act i want to shout scream and swear and belittle certain people that done
01:01:29.260
certain things online i'm very articulate when it comes to trying to cast somebody or put someone
01:01:33.020
in their place trust me most of the men this is me trying to discipline myself and it's i don't
01:01:37.420
mean this and again in a negative way it's like sometimes you've got to prove to someone i can be
01:01:41.340
a monster if you want to go there but this is a restrained monster just trying to be nice and
01:01:46.060
polite about it yeah i'm not killer but don't push me but don't okay don't do that
01:01:51.900
why do you have to go too no but honestly on a on a decent and a bit more of like a um
01:01:57.100
a rule thing when when a sister said um oh when people got annoyed because when you asked me the
01:02:02.780
question oh why am i not speaking i said it's not a topic i don't see me being passionate about this
01:02:08.620
is when it went wrong the reason no no no i never went wrong no you didn't but this is when
01:02:13.340
what went wrong was people's misunderstanding of me i and i understand sometimes i feel like i am
01:02:19.180
easily misunderstood maybe because of my demeanor my mannerism maybe because of my physical appearance
01:02:23.260
i don't know but i am really easily misunderstood what i what i meant was it wasn't like it's not an
01:02:29.820
issue i don't see myself dealing with of course she's going to do my dishes this is exactly what i
01:02:33.740
understood when i watched no yeah that's crazy and then i'm happy wallahi i'm so happy to hear you
01:02:37.900
i'm so happy to hear it honestly no problem just for the record this sounds really cringe but
01:02:47.420
realistically i'm like to people that i love ali even i'm a teddy bear i'm so soft so when i was
01:02:53.660
seeing the brother like before methi you're still my brother by the way and i still love you for the
01:02:57.820
sake of love i'm not gonna listen i don't pick sides i'm not like i'm with this group of brothers
01:03:02.220
and this because i want to get bro i am my own individual man so i still like you bro you're
01:03:07.260
still my brother but i just don't like a lot of the things that you said and i know what you're
01:03:11.260
doing you say that you're not doing it it is a marketing thing do you bro whatever cool but my
01:03:15.820
point was when i said it doesn't see me and a thing being passionate about the reason why is because
01:03:20.540
i'm thinking in my head i'm not passionate about this you know why i don't see myself with inshallah
01:03:25.820
my future feminine nice respectful woman of the future that i marry i go months you know get me
01:03:32.860
in her family months meeting who she is and how she is as a person i don't see the day we get married
01:03:38.140
i sit down and i'm squabbling over right you're gonna do this and i'm gonna do this you know the
01:03:43.100
issues that i want babe where we going for the honeymoon yeah other things as well come on
01:03:49.340
babe why did you not wear that dress that why are you not ready at 7 pm i booked the restaurant
01:03:53.500
why are you not ready why are you not wearing the new shoes that i bought you what about
01:03:57.180
cooking babe what about the earrings how did you lose the earrings she's not cooking i can ask
01:04:01.180
if she's cooked for you or not i'm gonna have my maid inshallah yeah the one no not my wife are you
01:04:05.580
gonna marry the maid as well let me be careful i'm joking no but on a serious level these are the
01:04:11.100
issues quote-unquote i see myself happening babe i spent so much on that earring how comes that
01:04:15.820
earrings missing how did you lose these are the issues not you know why have you not done the dishes
01:04:19.980
all right i'm gonna do the dishes and you're gonna do this or i'm gonna go and work and you're gonna
01:04:24.540
hoover up the house this is embarrassing the other thing as well lastly i just want to finish up this
01:04:28.540
last point as well because you raised something very important by the way um many years ago i've done a
01:04:33.180
lot of youth work i love working with young men specifically young men yeah why i saw a quote one
01:04:38.860
time and it was like the person that you are now or who you're trying to be is the person you wished you
01:04:43.500
had when you was younger and i was thinking i've always wanted like an older guy to perhaps give me some
01:04:47.740
advice so to the younger guys that do get inspired by certain people that maybe are a bit red pill or
01:04:53.020
they say some really strange quotes understand this and take anyone can take it however they want
01:04:59.260
most men that act in an extreme way have since deep rooted insecurities i don't want to because a lot
01:05:07.820
of people are muslim i don't want to be disrespectful okay but i mean it honestly as i'm and i don't
01:05:13.420
it to seem like i'm boasting let me try and think about my words here i've never come across excuse
01:05:18.700
me a secure man who gets female attention who gets
01:05:27.420
who gets money who gets the things that are maybe make you a high value man start speaking down on a
01:05:33.260
woman like she's a piece of something on the floor there is no secure man that does this who fears
01:05:38.540
allah and who fears allah and has taqwa most of the time it's a man that has been either neglected
01:05:43.900
throughout his whole life from women he has mommy issues okay a lot of us can have it it's nothing
01:05:48.380
to be embarrassed about we just need to fix them it is um it's it's out of revenge a lot of us men
01:05:53.100
have money issues yeah bro you dropped some deep bars okay thank you and lastly i'm just yeah so my
01:05:57.180
point is just to the young men out there just because someone might sound art i'm not as articulate as
01:06:01.420
some of these red pill guys but just because someone might sound so passionate and articulate and they they
01:06:06.220
make you feel like a woman should be treated a certain way bro it's not right it just sounds
01:06:11.500
good and it just sounds appealing a man should be a just man and the other thing last this is my
01:06:17.100
last point bro i promise you've been saying that better times no i promise it's a taste of your
01:06:20.940
own medicine right all right it's painful it's painful right the last thing don't make me forget
01:06:26.620
my point it was such a good point oh man go ahead i'll forget remember it what did i say what was my last
01:06:34.780
point um about men who are traumatized when when i'm hearing this stuff right when i'm hearing i'm
01:06:41.660
getting really comfortable now yeah all right this is how i would have been in the first place
01:06:48.540
that's what we wanted to be on the last episode yeah but i got scared i got scared right a bit more
01:06:56.540
i this whole war that we're seeing between man against woman muslim man against muslim woman
01:07:04.540
it's embarrassing it's really embarrassing guys we have family like mine that are not muslim yet yeah
01:07:10.620
that are looking at us and it's just like right how is this even a topic that's what i meant like i
01:07:14.860
don't see myself discussing it come on this and the other thing is i don't see myself not being a man
01:07:20.620
like you know my wife's at home and i've come home all day and even if i am tired i don't see nothing
01:07:26.860
embarrassing about me picking up some dishes and washing it if any if a woman feels like it's a bit
01:07:31.420
of a feminine trait or people say are you moving like a simp bro if i had a camera filming me doing
01:07:37.340
it i definitely don't look like a simp washing the house washing the dishes or hoofing i feel like i
01:07:42.860
look like a real masculine man doing that around my house maybe you might get you might get a second
01:07:47.260
wife again it's just insecure people that say these things like do you know what i mean bro it's
01:07:50.940
just insecure okay it is let me tell you something i'm done yeah i don't know can we can we wrap up
01:07:54.860
please yeah we're gonna no don't go anywhere don't go anywhere sister so uh and sisters please let's
01:07:59.340
just wrap so the topic was at hand please yeah uh should men cook or clean uh so please just let's
01:08:04.060
wrap up from sister so and this way inshallah i just want to thank the brother alhamdulillah for
01:08:07.340
making it clear and may allah bless you inshallah and make your faith easy and strong inshallah i mean
01:08:12.940
um mel i reward you so uh one of the things i want to say just like the brother say like i am
01:08:18.060
tired of what really shocked me with the podcast wasn't what you said it was what the brother said
01:08:23.180
sorry it was the comments and how people were praising the brother was like people those people
01:08:27.820
are muslims they follow quran and sunnah i was very shocked but what i want to say there is nothing
01:08:33.180
like just the brother shaquille said there is nothing stronger than a man we all talk about providing
01:08:39.260
caring protecting you are providing help for her when you are there supporting her this is
01:08:44.540
as well being a man it's not your duty your first duty is to provide and be out there inshallah
01:08:51.740
building the empire for your family and that's our duty to support you in your mission inshallah
01:08:57.420
but we're helping each other if i can help you with your work i help you with your work if you can
01:09:01.820
help me with mine i will we help each other inshallah we're a team inshallah
01:09:06.380
um i've i've mentioned it previously but i feel like a man should cook and clean and help his wife
01:09:15.580
if she needs it but she he shouldn't have to but it is up to that specific husband and wife
01:09:22.140
everybody's different you know what works for you and what doesn't um i am really pleased that this
01:09:27.260
whole conversation happened today because as a revert myself i have a lot of non-muslim family and friends
01:09:34.300
and i feel like watching this podcast they will take away so much more and such a good outlook
01:09:41.500
on islam um than what they would on the last one forgive me for saying um but i'm constantly
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conscious of that so i'm i'm really pleased that everything's just been aired here may Allah bless
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you and your husband for coming it's a pleasure they're going to be on a few other episodes here guys
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um so just very quickly i wanted to clear something up when i reposted this on my tiktok i had so many
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brothers saying yeah well you know in the quran it says that a woman is to be obedient to her husband
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which is correct but at the same time it's like no one's talking about obedience here he a lot of a
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lot of men said well you know if i tell her she needs to go and cook and clean and she should she's
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going to clean the point here isn't about being obedient it's more like are you also willing to be
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obedient because if she needs your help and she's asked you for your help and you then said no because
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you've done a 40-hour shift you have to answer to Allah tomorrow and it's like out of mercy love
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and compassion that you have for her are you not going to help her and i think a lot of brothers
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also brought the sunnah that look if our prophet muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam did it out of
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his own goodness therefore made it a sunnah then you know again it's not obligatory but my question
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to those brothers is if our prophet muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam did not do it does that mean
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that you're also not going to do it now and to the sisters who have an issue with being obedient
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you know who a lot a lot of them said yeah well it's not obligatory upon us to cook and clean
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again if you don't cook and clean and he doesn't cook and clean then why are you getting married
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don't get married as simple as that and i think a lot of people who are looking to get married you
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need to have a serious conversation like you're sitting on the table you need to ask her are you okay
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with cooking and cleaning and vice versa she needs to ask him too are you okay with helping me
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because exactly you can't just go into a lifelong commitment not knowing that you're you know if
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you're not living on the same page i know sister aria but i right yeah but the thing is yeah it
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comes back to our discussion yeah the fact that i have to be look i have to be real yeah may
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allah bless you you didn't press it by the way but none of me i don't need to press i'm the jet
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now i'm joking uh no i don't i don't have the happiness you're happy and me i'm just a little
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that talks a lot the the point is here look i understand but the discussion here is why is there
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even a discussion of the man helping in the house in two ways number one it's a given
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duh hello which you said another show yeah which you it's i'm not stupid we're not dumb to go to
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our wives and be like yeah i provide and protect pick it up you know how childish how insecure you
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have to be no no no i'm not saying you're saying that what i'm saying is why is there a discussion
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do you ever see out does do you ever see us men no no no yeah do you ever see men come in and say
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when is the look let me imagine me starting a discussion of your brothers we're all married
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arguing to take here when's the last time our wives helped out with our work let's start a
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petition we're going to call ourselves the blue pill guys and we're going to start a petition and
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say why are our wives not helping us anymore you'll be like well hold on a second bruv sisters will
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go ballistic you know what they'll say we're at the home we're cooking this yeah okay carry on
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carry on okay we're trying to make a point here we do not ever complain about it why are we
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still glad why is this discussion because it's a feminist that's creeping into us and i'm not
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saying you sister i'm talking generally it's creeped in where it's like yeah but why didn't
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why is this a discussion i have my mercy when i come home and i see my wife struggling i'm a human
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being will say i will you know ali that one will do the hoovering how about you record me do the
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hoovering i don't feel insecure but it's as if our sisters are sticking it on us of no but her
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husband does that when's the last time you it's not just sisters that's the problem it's the red pill
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red pill yes i've mentioned that i've mentioned that sister we're the first people that refuted
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the red pill wow and the reason why discussions are happening is because of how how far away people
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are from their deens like they only want to pick and choose what they want to follow and not actually
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follow the way it is written and that's the problem if you follow the deen to to the t nobody would be
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having this problem wouldn't need feminism influence exactly and you know what shakir mentioned
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please forgive me because no one's talking about what you mentioned about insecure wallahi i believe
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men and women who have been traumatized by a abnormal partner are so scarred that they think
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every woman is like that yeah that they have to have stipulations in place of if i'm providing and
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by the way i'm not talking about anybody but if the shoe fits it's there yeah the point is and then
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these men think like or this woman think i have to do this this and this otherwise they're not going
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to listen to me you know what that shows you marry the wrong person that ruined and destroyed you
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and you are left with those no healing like sister soul talks about all the time healing and
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accountability because you haven't recovered you are now on fight or flight mode where you're like
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no if she needs me to do that i'm going to tell her to do that and it turns into a sisters as well
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need to take accountability they need to take care of their husbands and they need to develop
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those skills and be proud of it and inshallah good women will build good men
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exactly exactly there's nothing wrong with a housewife there's nothing wrong with a housewife
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may allah bless every single housewife yeah sister swat and the sisters
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the beard gives it away with these muscles trust me i'm the sister not you
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yeah i think the ladies have kind of covered they've thrown you off now haven't they they have
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so just like cooking and cleaning so just like a little nasia maybe to those who are newly married
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etc like what you would tell them if there's a young sister watching this yeah i would say do
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whatever is whatever works for you and your family and do it based on the quran and sunnah do not
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listen to feminists and when i say feminists it's even something as small as the music you listen to
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the tv shows you watch because they're steeped in feminism you know a lot of the tv shows portray the
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man as weak and the woman as the strong you know i'm i get the last say so type of mentality
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peppa pig yeah um you've got the beyoncees of the world who talk about all the single ladies i'm an
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independent woman but then fights by her man when he cheats on her so they don't show that type of
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you know it's not in the media as much but the independent single woman mindset is and you might not
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be aware of it either exactly you're not aware of it you're for you you're just you're liking the song
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you like the beat you're you know whatever but subliminal exactly and a lot of these things we
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don't really see it until it it starts to affect us so i would say you know just be very conscious
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of everything whatever we listen to music is haram for a reason it's haram for a reason because a lot
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of these cardi b's of the world and all of these girls that we watch and listen to and we look up to
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they have an agenda to break us as women yeah so that our men can't tell us what to do because
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they're trying to you know oppress us and that's not the truth and we are self-destroying ourselves
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we have spoken often about the femininity masculinity everyone's talking about toxic masculinity and no
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one talks about the toxic masculinity in women where is no one talks about the toxic masculinity that we
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women are developing this is toxic because we are supposed to be rooting in our femininity yeah and
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like the brother was saying we they are really we really have to resist and fight off the red
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the feminism and go back to the deans of can i can i ask any of the sisters on the panel here sorry ali
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why do you think so many men are toxic we need to finish we need to wrap up bro we need to wrap up
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sister swad and that should be our next topic yeah i've got some good topics this is a good question
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so again like i said just you know don't listen to all of these things you know no feminism no go
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back to and like speak to your parents your grandparents they've got the traditional mindset
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still they haven't been rooted in this bs that we're listening to that's right there in our hands
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so take advice from them if you have to but the two of you should know start you know if you have to
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sit down with a pen and paper and say this you know because some people are very visual
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if they want to do that let them do that but it is between you and your husband and do whatever
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works for both of you and don't worry about anyone else but the idea would last add the one thing
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no no i'm sorry sister elderly people like the nun like we need better role model people that have
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20 30 years of marriages we only see young people speaking about marriage bring the real people the
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one that i have i have 11 years they've been married 30 years marriages people with wisdom people
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i just want to say to the brothers um there's loads of brothers out there talking about high value
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man so what they do if they earn money and stuff and then they think they're high value man for me
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this is my personal advice a high value man is a person who looks after his family his kids okay
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the thing is his wife and his children 100 if they're happy he's got peace at home that's a
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high value man a person who's got loads of businesses nice cars they can be going away just
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like that okay another thing i want to say to the brothers and sisters watch your circle who you sit
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down with you talk with because there's loads of sisters out there they sit with sisters they talk
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to them and they misguide them and same with brothers watch your circle you know who you sit down
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with you have good people around you alhamdulillah everything will be all right and home is peace
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okay if you go home you got peace and that's it that's what you need for me personally if i got
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peace at home i don't care nothing about anything you know i mean i come home i got peace i got my
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kids there i got my wife there that's it and that's my happiest place to be
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may Allah bless you guys it was an amazing amazing podcast especially from the last one
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brothers and sisters hope you guys benefit that at home inshallah and may Allah bless our
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honorable sisters who have come here contributed and our honorable brothers till next time from
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