Ali Dawah - May 24, 2026


WHO WERE THE 2 TERR0RISTS？ - DAWAH BROS PODCAST

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Ali Dawah
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SubhanAllah Clayne Lee Collar Flecton Crusader Abdullah Amin Tommy Robinson Caleb Liam Van Gess Caitlin Clark Caleb Limverges Robert Spencer Anders Breivik Charlie Kirk Ustad Adnan Subhanallah Attacker Mansour Qiyamah Abbas Jabs
KHAMZAT LOST F!GHT BUT WON STRICKLAND HEART GODLOGICS WIFE RAGING AFTER KORA WHIPS HER BACK SIDE

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15 minutes

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2,631

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85

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1

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23

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23

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In this episode of the Diocese of San Diego podcast, we talk about the San Diego shooting and how copycat attacks are on the rise in the Muslim community, and how we need to stop them. We also talk about how we can stop copycat killers, and what we can do about it.

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00:00:00.000 100%. These people are the lowest scum of the earth. 1.00
00:00:04.920 These people are so hateful, it's unbelievable. 1.00
00:00:08.520 They will justify any crime against Muslims. 0.97
00:00:12.180 So that's an image of the victims, unfortunately.
00:00:14.800 These are the freedoms.
00:00:15.360 The security guard is Amin, Abdullah, and the brother is 51 years old.
00:00:19.160 And then you have a 78-year-old, brother Mansour, and a brother, Nadir, who is also 57.
00:00:25.940 Abdullah.
00:00:30.000 just imagine the people back in the day when they would have to travel certain distances for months 1.00
00:00:35.700 or even years what is one thing that they would carry with them the quran why because they did 1.00
00:00:41.640 not have it on their mobile devices or their gadgets brothers and sisters imagine you have 0.81
00:00:46.200 a app the qurani app which not only shows you how much rewards you get but reminds you to read the
00:00:52.660 quran gives you reminders download the qurani app now and let it testify for you on your
00:00:57.580 Qiyamah, that you read it wherever you was.
00:01:06.540 As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh brothers and sisters and dear friends, welcome
00:01:10.060 to another episode of the Diabloz podcast. I'm here with two amazing, well three amazing guests
00:01:13.820 and we've got our co-host Dawood, mashaAllah, the powerhouse when it comes to knowledge and
00:01:18.460 alhamdulillah amongst our guests there. We're going to be doing the topic today about the
00:01:22.460 San Diego shooting. Yes. Three innocent people who lost their life, brother Amin who fired back and
00:01:26.940 and save the lives of hundreds of innocent children there. 0.98
00:01:29.660 Their aim was to go in there and massacre these kids.
00:01:32.500 But before we delve into and go to our guests, 0.76
00:01:34.640 Ustad Adnan and Abbas,
00:01:36.840 let's dissect these individuals, their manifesto,
00:01:39.500 just to give an idea.
00:01:40.880 And then we're going to go straight to our guests, inshallah,
00:01:43.020 to delve into what is the root cause of this
00:01:45.440 and how we can combat this and solutions, inshallah.
00:01:47.660 So Dawood, who are these individuals?
00:01:49.360 Because the first thing that I saw was the picture
00:01:51.240 and he had, his name is what?
00:01:54.320 So yeah, so we had two perpetrators.
00:01:56.940 by the name of kane lee clark um he was um so are they female or male i'm so sorry i i don't know
00:02:02.700 okay so they are both males from what we know okay um there are um there's speculation and
00:02:08.620 there's also propaganda being paddled online right now that uh kane lee clark possibly was
00:02:13.820 transgender okay very similar to the charlie kirk shootings that was ideas or um the leftist
00:02:19.900 leftist yeah and this is again politically driven and then we had uh the other perpetrator
00:02:25.900 by the name of Caleb Liam Van Gess, who was the other one.
00:02:29.740 He was the one who basically murdered both of them. 0.57
00:02:32.460 Subhanallah. 0.91
00:02:32.940 Yeah, he's the one who murdered both of them.
00:02:35.980 In himself, yeah. 0.80
00:02:36.860 So Clayne Lee Collar is a self-described Christian eco-fascist.
00:02:43.580 So there's plenty of, you know, digital footprint of him.
00:02:50.860 Is this him?
00:02:51.420 Yeah, that's him.
00:02:51.900 So this is the one who goes with the name of?
00:02:53.500 Of Cain Lee Collar.
00:02:54.460 Flecton Crusader.
00:02:55.500 Flecton Crusader, yeah.
00:02:57.500 That was his TikTok account
00:02:59.820 and he has left a lot of digital footprint.
00:03:03.180 That's him there, yeah.
00:03:04.040 That's him there, yeah.
00:03:04.620 Yeah, he is the one who gets shot by Caleb.
00:03:07.600 Yeah.
00:03:08.100 So, and then Caleb Limverges,
00:03:09.960 he actually was been speaking to the police department
00:03:14.380 last year in 2025
00:03:15.600 because one of the people who knew him
00:03:17.600 alerted the officials of his extremist talking points
00:03:23.060 that he had.
00:03:23.500 and the, what's it called, mass casualty attacks
00:03:28.300 that he was talking about to other people.
00:03:29.600 So he was warned.
00:03:30.560 They were warned.
00:03:31.200 He was already on the register
00:03:32.840 and people had him on the report card.
00:03:36.120 So he was not like unknown to the local police.
00:03:40.920 And Ken Lee Clark, of course,
00:03:43.320 also was spreading a lot of like,
00:03:46.080 you know, dangerous ideas online.
00:03:48.760 And what we are facing right now
00:03:50.680 is that we are looking at people
00:03:52.500 who um are copycat um copycatting um attacks that has happened before in the western world
00:04:00.580 and um in fact one of the manifesto the manifesto they released um and we're going to go into not
00:04:06.660 all of it but we're going to go on through all the points of the manifesto yeah just yeah yeah
00:04:10.900 so the manifesto was actually and we were just speaking of the crusades the title of the
00:04:16.020 manifesto was the new crusade sons of tarrant that was the title of the manifesto so tarrant
00:04:24.020 they're here referring to the christ church um attacker uh terrorist yeah and they're basically
00:04:31.220 saying they're the sons of him wow you know um a reference to brenton tarrant uh and who killed
00:04:39.300 51 people and injured 89 more in attacks on the mosque in islamic center christ church in new
00:04:45.060 zealand in 2019 uh terence rampage has inspired numerous of copycats and there is this big image
00:04:51.300 that we have of all the guys who have been inspired by andrews brevik and and and tarrant um so when
00:04:57.940 we look at the manifesto which has been released by the anti-defamation league um was this a um
00:05:05.300 you know anti you know racist uh organization they because you can't find the manifesto online
00:05:12.420 anymore has been taken down because of fear of you know copycats reading it but there are
00:05:17.220 extracts of it and if you look hard and you will find it unfortunately um but they've
00:05:22.340 breaking it down into like five spots uh five main areas that these guys discuss and i will
00:05:28.260 try to quote some of the stuff they say as well some yeah we'll go to our guests and
00:05:31.620 know that yeah so sure so like uh first one is white supremacy and the idea of accelerationism
00:05:38.020 which is the idea that we have to collapse society in order to rebuild it.
00:05:44.080 So collapse society means collapse of governments,
00:05:47.040 collapse of National Guard, and collapse of just overall executive.
00:05:51.800 Reconstruct and reconstruct.
00:05:53.000 So we have to destroy it.
00:05:55.420 It has to be destroyed.
00:05:57.340 And he says, the 18-year-old shooter calls himself an accelerationist,
00:06:02.520 and in writing he says,
00:06:03.660 i believe that accelerating towards the destruction of our current political system
00:06:08.780 and towards an all-out race war for the purpose of societal collapse is the only real way forward
00:06:17.260 yeah uh so that was uh calip who said it um the other guy lee he says uh chris um
00:06:26.140 eco um so he calls himself a christian eco-fascist
00:06:30.940 claims that the only solution to the current state of our world is to accelerate towards the
00:06:35.580 complete utter collapse of society so this is a tenant of it and then they say the second one
00:06:41.260 which is so ironic is anti-semitism okay they had deep hatred for race and for for for semites and
00:06:47.900 for jews oh yeah so yeah both shooters expressed virulent anti-semitic views in their manifesto
00:06:54.780 making clear that they believe jews have an overwhelming power in u.s politics and that 0.89
00:07:00.700 consequently only violence can solve their perceived problems you know so this is crazy so he says
00:07:07.580 the universal enemy you know and this is calip saying this claims that all society and global
00:07:13.340 problems can be traced back to group the juice you know so the third point they make in their
00:07:20.380 manifesto is about islamophobia you know uh so they believe uh of the great replacement theory
00:07:26.860 they believed in the great replacement theory and this is something that someone like tommy
00:07:30.940 robinson would openly openly say on his march that yes they were um that white people or europeans
00:07:38.220 are being replaced this is a tagline that people have seen and we can see now that it's causing
00:07:42.300 loads of problems um they call muslims invaders and um they were referring to tarrant again the
00:07:49.660 Christchurch, what's it called? Attacker or terrorist. And so Caleb says, they hate the 0.99
00:07:57.580 religion of Islam itself. They hate the religion of Islam itself. And he also claims that the 0.88
00:08:02.220 religion is in every way incompatible and hostile to the Western countries, morals and values.
00:08:09.420 And this is literally something that Charlie Kirk said. He said...
00:08:14.140 It's not compatible. And I agree with him. It's not compatible in the sense where
00:08:19.260 your morals are absolutely abhorrent. Islamic morals, we've seen it with the crusaders. I agree 1.00
00:08:27.500 with that statement, but not in that way. So they're definitely right. We don't go kill innocent 0.97
00:08:30.700 people, men and children, genocide. That doesn't happen. Just another line before we go to our
00:08:34.460 guest question. Well, there's two more things, three more things we really have to discuss
00:08:39.900 quickly. I'll be very quick. Okay. The next one is anti-black racism. I don't know if you can see
00:08:46.540 there's a pattern here and we will discuss this in another video there's a pattern here
00:08:50.620 we have to really discuss so anti-black racism they believe that um even if they were to get 0.99
00:08:55.580 rid of the muslims and the jews the root of all problems is black people because they have a low 0.99
00:09:00.540 iq and they are literally dragging the rest of humanity down with the low iq um so um here he 1.00
00:09:09.580 says he attacks black culture and claiming that the n-word coaches extremely infectious and 1.00
00:09:14.620 destructive and of course oh the irony yeah i'm gonna go to a school and kill my daughter's 1.00
00:09:19.740 little children yeah and i'm gonna kill myself what's a high iq operation exactly yes another 1.00
00:09:24.540 point in reference is insult him and hatred of women this is where the red pill comes in yeah 0.96
00:09:32.140 so they had extreme hatred for the woman uh and the way they talk about women and they also talk
00:09:36.940 about frustration so the claim of romantic sexual frustrations that they never had the ability to be
00:09:44.620 with women and they quote someone at saint eliot he is a famous uh murderer who was killed um people
00:09:53.260 in a school because i think they were bullied yeah he was bullied saint eliot is this one guy
00:09:57.500 these two as well probably yes yes yes yes because he was um okay cool and then anti-lgbt sentiments
00:10:03.420 as well so for those people who are saying they were trans they're here clearly saying that the
00:10:07.180 hate trends anything to do with that and then at least uh not but least um is the muscular
00:10:13.100 ecosystem so they were promoting the idea that uh white people are being mass murdered therefore 0.95
00:10:19.660 they must make everything sure to kill anything that contributes to it wow that was vital 0.55
00:10:25.340 information and you saw those pictures there guys we're going to go to our amazing guests
00:10:30.620 and dissect this what is the cause of this evil now we're going to be dissecting this
00:10:35.260 inshallah brothers and going into the shooters who are the shooters so that was going to do some
00:10:39.100 research investigation i don't know if you've guys seen the video footage okay what i'm gonna
00:10:43.340 do is inshallah i'm going to open up for you guys just to watch it because it is um them trying to
00:10:49.020 go to this is the footage let me just show you guys uh let's just quickly go to that video inshallah
00:10:54.700 what you just saw is very critical because they're coming in to massacre the kids yes the security
00:10:59.340 guard sees and says active shooter lock the doors yes he fires back as far as i know that's why if
00:11:04.620 you see they went past it why they're shooting back outside right they missed the security guard
00:11:08.140 So shots being fired
00:11:09.300 So they're like okay
00:11:09.920 There's a fight back
00:11:11.500 Which causes them to retreat
00:11:14.040 And they leave and go 0.99
00:11:14.960 SubhanAllah 0.90
00:11:15.460 The question here is this
00:11:17.600 We've seen
00:11:18.560 And if we open the picture
00:11:19.900 Of many of those
00:11:21.020 They shot the security guard
00:11:22.020 He died
00:11:22.520 Yes
00:11:23.000 And the two other victims
00:11:25.160 Where were they shot?
00:11:26.440 I have no idea
00:11:27.580 Where they were shot
00:11:28.640 Because it's very interesting
00:11:29.500 Because they come in
00:11:30.100 And then they go out
00:11:30.780 I don't know if it was on the way
00:11:32.060 Someone 1.00
00:11:32.400 But it's in the mosque compound
00:11:33.580 Is it?
00:11:34.280 Yes
00:11:34.720 These are free Muslims 1.00
00:11:36.460 Who've passed away 1.00
00:11:37.100 SubhanAllah
00:11:37.580 But this is something that
00:11:39.520 We have an image of that
00:11:40.600 Can you show them image 1.00
00:11:41.720 Jabs 0.89
00:11:42.480 Of the victims
00:11:43.900 Of the victims
00:11:44.560 Can you show the image
00:11:45.420 Has it been called
00:11:46.700 A terrorist attack so far
00:11:48.100 No it's called
00:11:48.720 There's an active shooter
00:11:50.280 They don't label them terrorists
00:11:51.520 And they claim
00:11:52.200 It must most likely be a hate crime 0.56
00:11:53.800 Then you've got people like Luma
00:11:56.020 Literally
00:11:57.940 Can you imagine a shooting
00:11:58.920 Happens in a Jewish synagogue
00:12:01.000 And then I come out and go 0.91
00:12:02.720 You know just the way
00:12:03.680 This was a radical Jewish synagogue
00:12:05.540 By the way
00:12:06.040 What are you trying to say
00:12:07.220 Are you justifying it?
00:12:08.180 Of course she's justifying it.
00:12:09.020 100%. 1.00
00:12:09.780 These people are the lowest scum of the earth. 1.00
00:12:14.100 These people are so hateful. 1.00
00:12:16.060 It's unbelievable. 1.00
00:12:17.640 They will justify any crime against Muslims.
00:12:21.540 We the Muslims, we have a very consistent standard.
00:12:25.020 We absolutely, absolutely under no circumstances
00:12:28.440 allow anyone to justify killings of innocent people
00:12:34.240 anywhere in the world.
00:12:35.140 okay this is our consistent standard throughout history we cannot possibly justify killing of
00:12:43.460 innocent people or even even accept it yeah we condemn it 100 we absolutely regardless of 0.86
00:12:49.100 regardless of who the innocent people are yeah doesn't matter like what happens to jewish 0.83
00:12:53.200 people christians it doesn't matter yeah i mean we absolutely condemn it 100 unconditionally 0.90
00:12:59.180 unashamedly okay we condemn it because we are proud of islam our faith teaches us to protect 0.98
00:13:05.960 all innocent people on the planet okay the quran actually has a very powerful verse to fight for
00:13:12.140 the innocent to protect the innocent those who are being oppressed okay so how can anyone become
00:13:19.380 a killer of the innocent okay so this is the islamically we are very consistent but these
00:13:25.200 people who hate muslims so much that they will justify or even cheer for some of these crimes
00:13:32.240 so there's an image of the the victims unfortunately these are the freesians the security guard is i
00:13:36.540 mean yeah abdullah and the brother is 51 years old yeah and then you have a 78 year old brother
00:13:41.720 mansoor and a brother nadir who is also 57 subhanallah this is very disturbing the fact that
00:13:53.100 the media is still not calling it a terrorist attack is very disturbing i'm not shocked i'm
00:13:59.260 not surprised yeah the amount of islamophobia on western media in the mouths of western politicians
00:14:05.320 we see okay i'm not surprised yeah because the whole system now it seems is against muslims yeah
00:14:10.460 okay especially in particular muslims living in the west okay there is open season it seems yeah
00:14:17.440 Okay, I mean, look, we recently had this march in London.
00:14:21.900 It was an anti-Muslim march.
00:14:24.680 It was effectively, more than anything, it was an anti-Muslim march.
00:14:28.920 And when kids or youngsters or gullible, impressionable children or youngsters 0.98
00:14:34.980 end up committing atrocities like this, they are terrorists. 0.98
00:14:38.600 They are criminals, no doubt.
00:14:39.880 But who makes them those criminals is the question.
00:14:42.180 What drives them?
00:14:43.180 What motivates them?
00:14:43.920 So Angus Breivik is him after his actions, he said he was in manifesto inspired by Tommy Robinson
00:14:49.920 and there's the others, Robert Spencer, the rest.
00:14:53.420 He had a ripple effect and we know he was inspired by the Crusaders, which we discussed on a different episode.
00:14:58.920 It's going back to that SubhanAllah, which you can see these individuals and then the Christchurch attack that happened.
00:15:04.920 And these individuals, these kids who carried this attack, they would call it, what was the name of their self?
00:15:13.920 Thank you.