Ali Dawah - May 24, 2026


WHO WERE THE 2 TERR0RISTS? - DAWAH BROS PODCAST


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00:00:00.000 100%. These people are the lowest scum of the earth. 1.00
00:00:04.920 These people are so hateful, it's unbelievable. 1.00
00:00:08.520 They will justify any crime against Muslims. 0.97
00:00:12.180 So that's an image of the victims, unfortunately.
00:00:14.800 These are the freedoms.
00:00:15.360 The security guard is Amin, Abdullah, and the brother is 51 years old.
00:00:19.160 And then you have a 78-year-old, brother Mansour, and a brother, Nadir, who is also 57.
00:00:25.940 Abdullah.
00:00:30.000 just imagine the people back in the day when they would have to travel certain distances for months 1.00
00:00:35.700 or even years what is one thing that they would carry with them the quran why because they did 1.00
00:00:41.640 not have it on their mobile devices or their gadgets brothers and sisters imagine you have 0.81
00:00:46.200 a app the qurani app which not only shows you how much rewards you get but reminds you to read the
00:00:52.660 quran gives you reminders download the qurani app now and let it testify for you on your
00:00:57.580 Qiyamah, that you read it wherever you was.
00:01:06.540 As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh brothers and sisters and dear friends, welcome
00:01:10.060 to another episode of the Diabloz podcast. I'm here with two amazing, well three amazing guests
00:01:13.820 and we've got our co-host Dawood, mashaAllah, the powerhouse when it comes to knowledge and
00:01:18.460 alhamdulillah amongst our guests there. We're going to be doing the topic today about the
00:01:22.460 San Diego shooting. Yes. Three innocent people who lost their life, brother Amin who fired back and
00:01:26.940 and save the lives of hundreds of innocent children there. 0.98
00:01:29.660 Their aim was to go in there and massacre these kids.
00:01:32.500 But before we delve into and go to our guests, 0.76
00:01:34.640 Ustad Adnan and Abbas,
00:01:36.840 let's dissect these individuals, their manifesto,
00:01:39.500 just to give an idea.
00:01:40.880 And then we're going to go straight to our guests, inshallah,
00:01:43.020 to delve into what is the root cause of this
00:01:45.440 and how we can combat this and solutions, inshallah.
00:01:47.660 So Dawood, who are these individuals?
00:01:49.360 Because the first thing that I saw was the picture
00:01:51.240 and he had, his name is what?
00:01:54.320 So yeah, so we had two perpetrators.
00:01:56.940 by the name of kane lee clark um he was um so are they female or male i'm so sorry i i don't know
00:02:02.700 okay so they are both males from what we know okay um there are um there's speculation and
00:02:08.620 there's also propaganda being paddled online right now that uh kane lee clark possibly was
00:02:13.820 transgender okay very similar to the charlie kirk shootings that was ideas or um the leftist
00:02:19.900 leftist yeah and this is again politically driven and then we had uh the other perpetrator
00:02:25.900 by the name of Caleb Liam Van Gess, who was the other one.
00:02:29.740 He was the one who basically murdered both of them. 0.57
00:02:32.460 Subhanallah. 0.91
00:02:32.940 Yeah, he's the one who murdered both of them.
00:02:35.980 In himself, yeah. 0.80
00:02:36.860 So Clayne Lee Collar is a self-described Christian eco-fascist.
00:02:43.580 So there's plenty of, you know, digital footprint of him.
00:02:50.860 Is this him?
00:02:51.420 Yeah, that's him.
00:02:51.900 So this is the one who goes with the name of?
00:02:53.500 Of Cain Lee Collar.
00:02:54.460 Flecton Crusader.
00:02:55.500 Flecton Crusader, yeah.
00:02:57.500 That was his TikTok account
00:02:59.820 and he has left a lot of digital footprint.
00:03:03.180 That's him there, yeah.
00:03:04.040 That's him there, yeah.
00:03:04.620 Yeah, he is the one who gets shot by Caleb.
00:03:07.600 Yeah.
00:03:08.100 So, and then Caleb Limverges,
00:03:09.960 he actually was been speaking to the police department
00:03:14.380 last year in 2025
00:03:15.600 because one of the people who knew him
00:03:17.600 alerted the officials of his extremist talking points
00:03:23.060 that he had.
00:03:23.500 and the, what's it called, mass casualty attacks
00:03:28.300 that he was talking about to other people.
00:03:29.600 So he was warned.
00:03:30.560 They were warned.
00:03:31.200 He was already on the register
00:03:32.840 and people had him on the report card.
00:03:36.120 So he was not like unknown to the local police.
00:03:40.920 And Ken Lee Clark, of course,
00:03:43.320 also was spreading a lot of like,
00:03:46.080 you know, dangerous ideas online.
00:03:48.760 And what we are facing right now
00:03:50.680 is that we are looking at people
00:03:52.500 who um are copycat um copycatting um attacks that has happened before in the western world
00:04:00.580 and um in fact one of the manifesto the manifesto they released um and we're going to go into not
00:04:06.660 all of it but we're going to go on through all the points of the manifesto yeah just yeah yeah
00:04:10.900 so the manifesto was actually and we were just speaking of the crusades the title of the
00:04:16.020 manifesto was the new crusade sons of tarrant that was the title of the manifesto so tarrant
00:04:24.020 they're here referring to the christ church um attacker uh terrorist yeah and they're basically
00:04:31.220 saying they're the sons of him wow you know um a reference to brenton tarrant uh and who killed
00:04:39.300 51 people and injured 89 more in attacks on the mosque in islamic center christ church in new
00:04:45.060 zealand in 2019 uh terence rampage has inspired numerous of copycats and there is this big image
00:04:51.300 that we have of all the guys who have been inspired by andrews brevik and and and tarrant um so when
00:04:57.940 we look at the manifesto which has been released by the anti-defamation league um was this a um
00:05:05.300 you know anti you know racist uh organization they because you can't find the manifesto online
00:05:12.420 anymore has been taken down because of fear of you know copycats reading it but there are
00:05:17.220 extracts of it and if you look hard and you will find it unfortunately um but they've
00:05:22.340 breaking it down into like five spots uh five main areas that these guys discuss and i will
00:05:28.260 try to quote some of the stuff they say as well some yeah we'll go to our guests and
00:05:31.620 know that yeah so sure so like uh first one is white supremacy and the idea of accelerationism
00:05:38.020 which is the idea that we have to collapse society in order to rebuild it.
00:05:44.080 So collapse society means collapse of governments,
00:05:47.040 collapse of National Guard, and collapse of just overall executive.
00:05:51.800 Reconstruct and reconstruct.
00:05:53.000 So we have to destroy it.
00:05:55.420 It has to be destroyed.
00:05:57.340 And he says, the 18-year-old shooter calls himself an accelerationist,
00:06:02.520 and in writing he says,
00:06:03.660 i believe that accelerating towards the destruction of our current political system
00:06:08.780 and towards an all-out race war for the purpose of societal collapse is the only real way forward
00:06:17.260 yeah uh so that was uh calip who said it um the other guy lee he says uh chris um
00:06:26.140 eco um so he calls himself a christian eco-fascist
00:06:30.940 claims that the only solution to the current state of our world is to accelerate towards the
00:06:35.580 complete utter collapse of society so this is a tenant of it and then they say the second one
00:06:41.260 which is so ironic is anti-semitism okay they had deep hatred for race and for for for semites and
00:06:47.900 for jews oh yeah so yeah both shooters expressed virulent anti-semitic views in their manifesto
00:06:54.780 making clear that they believe jews have an overwhelming power in u.s politics and that 0.89
00:07:00.700 consequently only violence can solve their perceived problems you know so this is crazy so he says
00:07:07.580 the universal enemy you know and this is calip saying this claims that all society and global
00:07:13.340 problems can be traced back to group the juice you know so the third point they make in their
00:07:20.380 manifesto is about islamophobia you know uh so they believe uh of the great replacement theory
00:07:26.860 they believed in the great replacement theory and this is something that someone like tommy
00:07:30.940 robinson would openly openly say on his march that yes they were um that white people or europeans
00:07:38.220 are being replaced this is a tagline that people have seen and we can see now that it's causing
00:07:42.300 loads of problems um they call muslims invaders and um they were referring to tarrant again the
00:07:49.660 Christchurch, what's it called? Attacker or terrorist. And so Caleb says, they hate the 0.99
00:07:57.580 religion of Islam itself. They hate the religion of Islam itself. And he also claims that the 0.88
00:08:02.220 religion is in every way incompatible and hostile to the Western countries, morals and values.
00:08:09.420 And this is literally something that Charlie Kirk said. He said...
00:08:14.140 It's not compatible. And I agree with him. It's not compatible in the sense where
00:08:19.260 your morals are absolutely abhorrent. Islamic morals, we've seen it with the crusaders. I agree 1.00
00:08:27.500 with that statement, but not in that way. So they're definitely right. We don't go kill innocent 0.97
00:08:30.700 people, men and children, genocide. That doesn't happen. Just another line before we go to our
00:08:34.460 guest question. Well, there's two more things, three more things we really have to discuss
00:08:39.900 quickly. I'll be very quick. Okay. The next one is anti-black racism. I don't know if you can see
00:08:46.540 there's a pattern here and we will discuss this in another video there's a pattern here
00:08:50.620 we have to really discuss so anti-black racism they believe that um even if they were to get 0.99
00:08:55.580 rid of the muslims and the jews the root of all problems is black people because they have a low 0.99
00:09:00.540 iq and they are literally dragging the rest of humanity down with the low iq um so um here he 1.00
00:09:09.580 says he attacks black culture and claiming that the n-word coaches extremely infectious and 1.00
00:09:14.620 destructive and of course oh the irony yeah i'm gonna go to a school and kill my daughter's 1.00
00:09:19.740 little children yeah and i'm gonna kill myself what's a high iq operation exactly yes another 1.00
00:09:24.540 point in reference is insult him and hatred of women this is where the red pill comes in yeah 0.96
00:09:32.140 so they had extreme hatred for the woman uh and the way they talk about women and they also talk
00:09:36.940 about frustration so the claim of romantic sexual frustrations that they never had the ability to be
00:09:44.620 with women and they quote someone at saint eliot he is a famous uh murderer who was killed um people
00:09:53.260 in a school because i think they were bullied yeah he was bullied saint eliot is this one guy
00:09:57.500 these two as well probably yes yes yes yes because he was um okay cool and then anti-lgbt sentiments
00:10:03.420 as well so for those people who are saying they were trans they're here clearly saying that the
00:10:07.180 hate trends anything to do with that and then at least uh not but least um is the muscular
00:10:13.100 ecosystem so they were promoting the idea that uh white people are being mass murdered therefore 0.95
00:10:19.660 they must make everything sure to kill anything that contributes to it wow that was vital 0.55
00:10:25.340 information and you saw those pictures there guys we're going to go to our amazing guests
00:10:30.620 and dissect this what is the cause of this evil now we're going to be dissecting this
00:10:35.260 inshallah brothers and going into the shooters who are the shooters so that was going to do some
00:10:39.100 research investigation i don't know if you've guys seen the video footage okay what i'm gonna
00:10:43.340 do is inshallah i'm going to open up for you guys just to watch it because it is um them trying to
00:10:49.020 go to this is the footage let me just show you guys uh let's just quickly go to that video inshallah
00:10:54.700 what you just saw is very critical because they're coming in to massacre the kids yes the security
00:10:59.340 guard sees and says active shooter lock the doors yes he fires back as far as i know that's why if
00:11:04.620 you see they went past it why they're shooting back outside right they missed the security guard
00:11:08.140 So shots being fired
00:11:09.300 So they're like okay
00:11:09.920 There's a fight back
00:11:11.500 Which causes them to retreat
00:11:14.040 And they leave and go 0.99
00:11:14.960 SubhanAllah 0.90
00:11:15.460 The question here is this
00:11:17.600 We've seen
00:11:18.560 And if we open the picture
00:11:19.900 Of many of those
00:11:21.020 They shot the security guard
00:11:22.020 He died
00:11:22.520 Yes
00:11:23.000 And the two other victims
00:11:25.160 Where were they shot?
00:11:26.440 I have no idea
00:11:27.580 Where they were shot
00:11:28.640 Because it's very interesting
00:11:29.500 Because they come in
00:11:30.100 And then they go out
00:11:30.780 I don't know if it was on the way
00:11:32.060 Someone 1.00
00:11:32.400 But it's in the mosque compound
00:11:33.580 Is it?
00:11:34.280 Yes
00:11:34.720 These are free Muslims 1.00
00:11:36.460 Who've passed away 1.00
00:11:37.100 SubhanAllah
00:11:37.580 But this is something that
00:11:39.520 We have an image of that
00:11:40.600 Can you show them image 1.00
00:11:41.720 Jabs 0.89
00:11:42.480 Of the victims
00:11:43.900 Of the victims
00:11:44.560 Can you show the image
00:11:45.420 Has it been called
00:11:46.700 A terrorist attack so far
00:11:48.100 No it's called
00:11:48.720 There's an active shooter
00:11:50.280 They don't label them terrorists
00:11:51.520 And they claim
00:11:52.200 It must most likely be a hate crime 0.56
00:11:53.800 Then you've got people like Luma
00:11:56.020 Literally
00:11:57.940 Can you imagine a shooting
00:11:58.920 Happens in a Jewish synagogue
00:12:01.000 And then I come out and go 0.91
00:12:02.720 You know just the way
00:12:03.680 This was a radical Jewish synagogue
00:12:05.540 By the way
00:12:06.040 What are you trying to say
00:12:07.220 Are you justifying it?
00:12:08.180 Of course she's justifying it.
00:12:09.020 100%. 1.00
00:12:09.780 These people are the lowest scum of the earth. 1.00
00:12:14.100 These people are so hateful. 1.00
00:12:16.060 It's unbelievable. 1.00
00:12:17.640 They will justify any crime against Muslims.
00:12:21.540 We the Muslims, we have a very consistent standard.
00:12:25.020 We absolutely, absolutely under no circumstances
00:12:28.440 allow anyone to justify killings of innocent people
00:12:34.240 anywhere in the world.
00:12:35.140 okay this is our consistent standard throughout history we cannot possibly justify killing of
00:12:43.460 innocent people or even even accept it yeah we condemn it 100 we absolutely regardless of 0.86
00:12:49.100 regardless of who the innocent people are yeah doesn't matter like what happens to jewish 0.83
00:12:53.200 people christians it doesn't matter yeah i mean we absolutely condemn it 100 unconditionally 0.90
00:12:59.180 unashamedly okay we condemn it because we are proud of islam our faith teaches us to protect 0.98
00:13:05.960 all innocent people on the planet okay the quran actually has a very powerful verse to fight for
00:13:12.140 the innocent to protect the innocent those who are being oppressed okay so how can anyone become
00:13:19.380 a killer of the innocent okay so this is the islamically we are very consistent but these
00:13:25.200 people who hate muslims so much that they will justify or even cheer for some of these crimes
00:13:32.240 so there's an image of the the victims unfortunately these are the freesians the security guard is i
00:13:36.540 mean yeah abdullah and the brother is 51 years old yeah and then you have a 78 year old brother
00:13:41.720 mansoor and a brother nadir who is also 57 subhanallah this is very disturbing the fact that
00:13:53.100 the media is still not calling it a terrorist attack is very disturbing i'm not shocked i'm
00:13:59.260 not surprised yeah the amount of islamophobia on western media in the mouths of western politicians
00:14:05.320 we see okay i'm not surprised yeah because the whole system now it seems is against muslims yeah
00:14:10.460 okay especially in particular muslims living in the west okay there is open season it seems yeah
00:14:17.440 Okay, I mean, look, we recently had this march in London.
00:14:21.900 It was an anti-Muslim march.
00:14:24.680 It was effectively, more than anything, it was an anti-Muslim march.
00:14:28.920 And when kids or youngsters or gullible, impressionable children or youngsters 0.98
00:14:34.980 end up committing atrocities like this, they are terrorists. 0.98
00:14:38.600 They are criminals, no doubt.
00:14:39.880 But who makes them those criminals is the question.
00:14:42.180 What drives them?
00:14:43.180 What motivates them?
00:14:43.920 So Angus Breivik is him after his actions, he said he was in manifesto inspired by Tommy Robinson
00:14:49.920 and there's the others, Robert Spencer, the rest.
00:14:53.420 He had a ripple effect and we know he was inspired by the Crusaders, which we discussed on a different episode.
00:14:58.920 It's going back to that SubhanAllah, which you can see these individuals and then the Christchurch attack that happened.
00:15:04.920 And these individuals, these kids who carried this attack, they would call it, what was the name of their self?
00:15:13.920 Thank you.