Ali Dawah - April 15, 2023


WHY MEN GET SECRET SECOND WIVES - EP 8 || BITTER TRUTH SHOW


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 15 minutes

Words per Minute

202.80672

Word Count

15,362

Sentence Count

28

Misogynist Sentences

133

Hate Speech Sentences

362


Summary

Is it okay for a Muslim man to have a second or third wife or even a fourth wife? Is it okay to keep it a secret from his family unit? Is it OK to keep a secret between a Muslim woman and her husband?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 If they put me, hijab, brother Sertaj, Dawood on lie detector test
00:00:03.580 And they said the following questions
00:00:05.040 Do you love your wife? Yes, pass
00:00:07.800 Would you die for her? Yes, pass
00:00:09.920 If your wife was okay, would you get a second wife? Yes, pass
00:00:13.520 There is not a conflict between a man loving his wife
00:00:17.200 And a man wanting to be polygamous
00:00:20.080 I agree
00:00:20.600 I get the polygamous part
00:00:22.420 I get the whole wanting to have more intimacy with more than one woman
00:00:26.580 But if you can ask the question more accurately
00:00:30.100 That take on another wife
00:00:32.100 And all the responsibilities that come with another wife
00:00:34.860 How many men will agree to that?
00:00:36.860 For example, if one says
00:00:38.040 I sense that you've got a second wife
00:00:39.980 Can he say, no I don't?
00:00:42.320 Yes he can, you can see that
00:00:43.240 I possibly believe this is
00:00:45.500 If we sit down and we talk about it
00:00:47.720 And I take my selfish knees out of it
00:00:50.180 I.e. me wanting him all to myself
00:00:52.900 I need to understand them
00:00:54.160 So I need to sit down
00:00:55.240 And I need to really think about
00:00:56.720 How this is going to affect him
00:00:58.660 It could lead him into doing dinner
00:01:01.100 Because my wife was
00:01:02.180 She always gave me the
00:01:03.680 Sort of the feeling
00:01:05.560 That I could be open with her
00:01:07.300 I told her
00:01:08.880 At one point
00:01:10.000 That
00:01:10.260 Look babe
00:01:11.480 That's the sister
00:01:12.760 Is that you, yeah?
00:01:14.580 I'm possibly
00:01:15.020 If we're talking about secret second wife
00:01:18.120 If my husband has gone behind my back
00:01:21.260 That to me is cheating
00:01:23.200 Even if it is Islamically correct
00:01:25.900 Feminist sisters who love their sisters
00:01:27.620 Who will die for their sisters
00:01:28.760 Who will take a bullet for their sisters
00:01:30.100 But will not share their husbands for their sisters
00:01:31.740 So the point is this
00:01:33.200 You know, let me be real, yeah?
00:01:34.240 If you love your
00:01:34.860 If you've got a good husband
00:01:35.740 By the way
00:01:36.200 I'm not talking about these guys
00:01:37.160 Who don't pray
00:01:37.600 Jahil
00:01:38.040 Clowns, yeah?
00:01:38.980 Who don't pray
00:01:39.500 Who oppress their wives
00:01:40.400 A good man who practices
00:01:41.680 Who fears Allah
00:01:42.380 Who's good to his wife
00:01:43.140 Takes care of his wife
00:01:44.020 He comes and he says
00:01:45.260 I want a second wife
00:01:46.300 All hell breaks loose
00:01:47.980 And then we blame this man
00:01:49.180 Yeah, but why are you keeping it secret?
00:01:51.140 What else should he do?
00:01:51.740 This is a test to see how
00:01:53.080 Allah is testing her
00:01:54.200 To see how she responds
00:01:55.160 If she decides to do the opposite
00:01:57.420 Which is, you know
00:01:58.940 Throw the divorce card
00:02:00.900 Or throw this card
00:02:01.880 Then ultimately
00:02:02.940 She is falling into the act of disobedience
00:02:04.820 Thank you
00:02:05.280 Thank you
00:02:05.860 Which I'm now expecting
00:02:07.340 As a Muslim man to follow
00:02:08.240 It's not the religion of Al-Islam
00:02:09.860 It's the religion of women's feelings
00:02:11.700 I'm not going to follow that religion
00:02:13.040 With respect to you
00:02:14.220 I'm not going to do
00:02:15.280 Prestoration to the
00:02:16.640 Collective hormonal
00:02:17.880 And emotional status
00:02:19.120 Of men or women
00:02:19.840 Or children
00:02:20.220 Or anybody else
00:02:20.840 You're saying if he's man enough
00:02:22.040 If your husband came to you man enough
00:02:23.520 And said to you
00:02:24.060 He wants a second wife
00:02:24.860 At least then it's not secret
00:02:26.200 I knew about it
00:02:26.940 One sec, one sec, one sec
00:02:27.840 You know about it
00:02:28.640 Are you going to
00:02:29.420 What are you going to do?
00:02:29.920 Are you going to say to me
00:02:30.420 Yeah, you can?
00:02:31.120 Thank you
00:02:31.400 Your face is
00:02:31.820 No
00:02:31.980 If he knows that she would
00:02:34.440 Withhold the kids from him
00:02:35.480 Use the state
00:02:36.140 Then do it without her knowledge
00:02:37.400 But I believe that's a form of abuse
00:02:38.980 You said bro
00:02:39.620 And I'll call them cowards
00:02:40.820 Who would rather make their wife happy
00:02:43.020 At the displeasure of Allah
00:02:44.580 Yeah
00:02:45.180 A coward
00:02:45.900 The biggest coward ever
00:02:47.000 That would go and commit zina
00:02:48.560 Adultery
00:02:49.580 At the cost of my wife
00:02:51.100 You are the biggest simp ever
00:02:52.640 With a capital S
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00:03:20.720 Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
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00:03:23.600 And dear friends
00:03:24.140 Hope you guys are well inshallah
00:03:25.000 Before I start
00:03:25.600 I want to praise Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
00:03:26.680 The most merciful
00:03:27.200 The most just
00:03:27.780 I'll praise His glory
00:03:28.500 And gratitude
00:03:28.860 Belong to Him
00:03:29.440 So just quick
00:03:31.220 Bitter buzzers
00:03:32.360 If you oppose anyone
00:03:33.540 Just press it
00:03:34.180 You have one and a half minute
00:03:35.040 Let's try obviously
00:03:37.360 Not to backbite
00:03:38.240 Or sadaqa jari
00:03:39.040 I know we're not going to
00:03:39.840 But just a disclaimer
00:03:40.840 And that
00:03:42.660 Our honourable sisters
00:03:43.420 Our honourable brothers
00:03:44.140 Are here
00:03:44.420 To discuss something pertaining
00:03:46.140 For the sake of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
00:03:47.360 Because we know
00:03:48.440 There's an attack on the family unit
00:03:49.680 Left right centre
00:03:50.460 And inshallah
00:03:51.500 Our aim with that show
00:03:52.400 Is to counter that
00:03:54.060 Inshallah
00:03:54.440 To preserve marriages
00:03:55.520 Let's get straight into it
00:03:56.680 The topic is
00:03:57.360 Secret second wives
00:03:59.160 And yes
00:04:01.280 The first topic is
00:04:02.240 Is it okay
00:04:03.060 So we're going to do
00:04:04.240 Is two segments
00:04:04.840 The first one is going to be
00:04:05.900 That
00:04:06.500 Is it okay for a man
00:04:08.180 To be in a secret
00:04:09.460 Second marriage
00:04:12.020 Or third or fourth marriage
00:04:12.860 For that
00:04:13.140 Let's start with you Hijab
00:04:14.200 Inshallah
00:04:14.580 So let me just summarise
00:04:16.420 The points
00:04:16.820 I think
00:04:17.780 When we say
00:04:18.220 Is it okay
00:04:18.640 Now for Muslim people
00:04:19.800 At least
00:04:20.120 This will become
00:04:20.580 A fiqhi discussion
00:04:21.400 This becomes
00:04:22.320 A jurisprudential discussion
00:04:23.420 Islamic law discussion
00:04:24.600 So with fiqh
00:04:26.060 There's two
00:04:26.540 There's two components
00:04:27.580 There's the abstract
00:04:28.920 And there's the application
00:04:30.240 Okay
00:04:30.960 The abstract
00:04:31.820 You can refer to as fiqh
00:04:32.820 Or the rulings
00:04:33.360 Or the
00:04:34.360 Asl al-hukm
00:04:35.180 They would call it
00:04:35.840 And then you have
00:04:36.500 Tanzeel al-hukm
00:04:37.240 Which is the application
00:04:37.940 Right
00:04:38.340 So
00:04:39.060 To give you an example
00:04:40.460 Marriage itself
00:04:41.140 Can take different rulings
00:04:42.060 Sugar
00:04:43.280 Can take different rulings
00:04:44.580 Like if someone's got diabetes
00:04:45.540 And they take sugar
00:04:46.680 That can be haram for them
00:04:47.680 You see
00:04:48.340 If someone is morbidly obese
00:04:50.300 And they eat food
00:04:50.980 That can be haram for them
00:04:51.960 Because it's harmful
00:04:52.800 So even food
00:04:54.160 Can take different rulings
00:04:55.340 Even though a piece of chicken
00:04:56.560 For example
00:04:57.120 Or a cube of sugar
00:04:58.540 In itself is not haram
00:04:59.760 But it can be haram
00:05:01.140 In certain situations
00:05:01.960 Yeah
00:05:03.000 And so there's lots of things like that
00:05:04.380 In general
00:05:05.060 When we talk about this issue here
00:05:06.760 To get straight into it
00:05:08.340 When we talk about
00:05:09.420 Secret second wives
00:05:10.180 There's no such thing
00:05:10.900 As secret second wives
00:05:12.080 In Islam
00:05:12.720 Because
00:05:13.600 There's no secrets
00:05:15.160 In nikah
00:05:16.000 You need to have
00:05:17.020 At least two witnesses
00:05:17.840 Okay
00:05:18.680 According to the majority
00:05:20.000 Of scholars
00:05:20.460 The Malikiya
00:05:21.700 They say you don't even
00:05:22.620 Need to have witnesses
00:05:23.460 They say it's mustahab
00:05:24.800 It's not wajib
00:05:25.420 For the most part
00:05:26.000 That's the school of thought
00:05:27.120 But they use the hadith
00:05:28.820 I'lan al-nikah
00:05:29.620 Or you have to
00:05:30.660 I'lan of the nikah
00:05:31.940 You have to
00:05:32.760 You know
00:05:33.480 Popularize it to the people
00:05:35.200 However
00:05:36.100 Having said that
00:05:36.740 It is very possible
00:05:37.500 For somebody to get
00:05:38.320 Married without telling
00:05:39.420 Their first wife
00:05:40.040 In Islam
00:05:40.440 As an abstract hokam
00:05:41.780 Why?
00:05:42.780 Because that is
00:05:43.300 There's no prerequisite
00:05:44.900 There's no conditioning
00:05:45.780 Ishtirat
00:05:46.620 There's no conditioning
00:05:47.420 According to any of the madahid
00:05:49.220 In fact
00:05:49.660 That a man needs to tell
00:05:51.180 His first wife
00:05:52.280 Or give permission
00:05:53.940 From her
00:05:54.660 Or anything like that
00:05:55.240 Yeah
00:05:55.420 In order for him to get a second
00:05:57.020 Practically though
00:05:58.560 The issue is
00:05:59.160 If he does it
00:06:00.640 Then he must
00:06:01.240 Now
00:06:01.660 And you think about it
00:06:02.940 If it's going to be
00:06:03.660 Completely equal
00:06:04.780 Polygamy
00:06:05.640 Which is the
00:06:06.460 Hustle of the situation
00:06:07.480 Then he's going to be
00:06:09.480 Having to at least
00:06:10.220 Divide the knights
00:06:10.920 Equally
00:06:11.320 Because in polygamy
00:06:11.940 You don't have to
00:06:13.200 Divide the
00:06:13.820 Bays equally
00:06:14.460 You divide the knights
00:06:15.460 Equally
00:06:16.420 And the knights
00:06:17.380 Have a very specific
00:06:18.160 Definition from
00:06:19.020 You know
00:06:19.300 Certain times
00:06:20.660 Now what I'm saying
00:06:22.560 Is now
00:06:23.020 The second wife
00:06:23.840 For this to actually
00:06:24.540 Be feasible
00:06:25.080 Where the first wife
00:06:25.780 Doesn't know
00:06:26.280 The second wife
00:06:27.880 Must do misyar
00:06:28.600 Really
00:06:28.920 For the most part
00:06:30.060 Misyar is
00:06:30.660 A kind of marriage
00:06:32.260 Where it's
00:06:32.840 A tanazul
00:06:33.480 An ba'd al huqouq
00:06:34.460 That she is
00:06:35.880 Voluntarily
00:06:36.660 Letting go
00:06:38.160 Of some of her rights
00:06:39.320 Forgoing her rights
00:06:40.820 And so
00:06:42.100 If she does that
00:06:43.360 And for example
00:06:43.840 She says to the man
00:06:44.640 Come to me
00:06:45.500 On such and such a day
00:06:46.460 On such and such a night
00:06:47.820 Or such and such a place
00:06:48.800 This is legitimate in Islam
00:06:50.060 In fact it has an asl in Islam
00:06:51.540 The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
00:06:52.900 Sauda ibn Tizam'a
00:06:53.680 Did this with him
00:06:54.280 She let go of her knights
00:06:55.660 For Aisha radiallahu anha
00:06:56.780 So it's not
00:06:57.360 Haram
00:06:58.660 In fact
00:06:59.040 You know
00:06:59.520 It's something the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
00:07:00.580 Did himself
00:07:01.160 So the question now is
00:07:03.080 Okay you've got other issues
00:07:04.100 Like inheritance
00:07:04.900 Because
00:07:05.960 The inheritance changes
00:07:07.540 You do have to actually
00:07:08.720 Change your inheritance
00:07:09.540 It's interesting
00:07:10.480 Because Ibn Jalzi
00:07:11.060 Mentioned this in one of his
00:07:12.080 Books
00:07:12.800 But I'll mention this afterwards
00:07:13.900 Of the secret second wife
00:07:15.420 And by the way
00:07:15.860 Scholars of the past
00:07:16.560 Did this
00:07:17.020 They married a woman
00:07:18.240 Without the first wife's knowledge
00:07:19.160 Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani
00:07:20.040 Married a
00:07:20.440 The big scholar
00:07:21.780 He married a woman
00:07:23.260 Her name was Unsi
00:07:24.040 Her first wife is called Unsi
00:07:25.660 She was a scholar in her own right
00:07:26.740 Hadith scholar
00:07:27.480 And even some western academics
00:07:30.380 Have written papers
00:07:31.680 Yusuf Rapopo
00:07:32.720 Wrote a paper about
00:07:34.240 The fact that he married
00:07:36.300 A second wife
00:07:37.280 Without
00:07:37.720 The first wife knowing
00:07:38.800 And he was asking the question
00:07:39.960 Why did he feel the need to do that
00:07:41.720 He was a very
00:07:42.200 If you want to put it in
00:07:43.040 Modern day terms
00:07:44.000 High value man
00:07:45.000 Very rich
00:07:45.920 He was the biggest scholar
00:07:47.140 Of Islam at that time
00:07:47.980 But he didn't tell
00:07:48.660 His first wife
00:07:49.360 In fact there's even
00:07:50.660 Ali radiallahu anhu
00:07:52.320 Ali radiallahu anhu
00:07:53.420 Didn't get married
00:07:54.240 To a second woman
00:07:55.160 But he
00:07:55.680 There's a hadith of Buraida
00:07:56.840 Buraida
00:07:58.180 There's a hadith
00:07:59.180 Where it says
00:07:59.540 That he went into
00:08:00.760 A particular
00:08:01.840 War
00:08:04.440 Or battle
00:08:05.480 Yeah
00:08:05.900 And he took
00:08:06.980 A prisoner of war
00:08:07.920 And he took
00:08:09.500 A prisoner of war
00:08:10.240 Who's very beautiful
00:08:10.980 Buraida wanted her as well
00:08:12.100 Okay
00:08:13.220 And then he says
00:08:13.780 Literally says
00:08:14.820 It's called the khums
00:08:16.620 So in the war booty
00:08:18.220 One fifth goes to
00:08:19.320 Like let's say
00:08:20.460 The state
00:08:21.480 And then the
00:08:23.200 Ahl al-bayt
00:08:24.000 Take one fifth of that
00:08:25.140 So because Ali
00:08:26.220 Is from Ahl al-bayt
00:08:26.860 He put her
00:08:27.680 Buraida
00:08:28.580 The jaria
00:08:29.700 In the fifth that he wanted
00:08:31.420 So Buraida was very angry
00:08:33.340 Because he wanted to be with that umu
00:08:34.460 Anyway
00:08:35.780 The point is
00:08:36.260 Is that
00:08:36.560 Buraida went to the Prophet
00:08:37.360 And the Prophet
00:08:38.840 He said
00:08:39.720 He endorsed
00:08:41.720 What Ali did
00:08:42.360 The point is
00:08:43.860 Fatima could never have known
00:08:45.140 That he did that
00:08:45.760 Because it was far away
00:08:47.960 From Fatima
00:08:48.800 Yeah
00:08:49.260 It was
00:08:50.120 It was not in Medina
00:08:51.460 They were not in Medina
00:08:52.300 So you've got two things
00:08:53.480 The Prophet
00:08:53.800 Endorsed it
00:08:55.160 Obviously it could be argued
00:08:56.400 That she wasn't a wife
00:08:57.280 Nevertheless
00:08:57.940 It's still
00:08:59.500 A polygamous
00:09:00.140 Sexual relationship
00:09:00.980 And it was clear
00:09:01.520 That he'd done
00:09:01.920 A sexual relationship
00:09:02.980 With her
00:09:03.300 Because the whole discussion
00:09:04.040 About him doing
00:09:05.080 Janaba and ghusl
00:09:06.240 And all these kinds of things
00:09:07.060 Moreover
00:09:07.700 Even the Prophet
00:09:08.380 Muhammad
00:09:08.600 Sallallahu himself
00:09:09.240 I mean there's a verse
00:09:10.600 In the Quran
00:09:10.960 If no one thought
00:09:14.380 About this verse
00:09:14.960 When the Prophet
00:09:16.180 He kept a secret
00:09:18.020 From some of his wives
00:09:19.060 Some scholars
00:09:20.540 I'm not going to go
00:09:21.260 Into detail
00:09:21.640 But some scholars
00:09:22.240 Actually connect this
00:09:22.920 With an incident
00:09:23.460 With Maria the Cop
00:09:25.140 And so on
00:09:25.780 I'm not going to go
00:09:27.780 Into detail
00:09:28.100 But the idea
00:09:28.940 Of actually
00:09:29.520 Not telling your husband
00:09:31.420 Or your wife
00:09:32.040 To be fair
00:09:32.480 Because the Hadith
00:09:33.180 In Muslim
00:09:34.040 That lying is not allowed
00:09:37.220 Except for three things
00:09:38.040 One of them is
00:09:39.660 That when a man
00:09:42.820 Speaks to his wife
00:09:43.660 And in Sahih Muslim
00:09:44.780 It says
00:09:45.020 And when a wife
00:09:45.480 Speaks to her
00:09:46.040 Husband
00:09:46.760 The white lies
00:09:48.520 It doesn't have to be white
00:09:49.760 It can be a black lie
00:09:50.720 Sorry to say
00:09:51.480 This idea of white lies
00:09:53.940 It's a modern day
00:09:55.220 Thing that people say
00:09:56.060 In the classical works
00:09:57.480 There's no differentiation
00:09:59.840 There here
00:10:00.540 In the Qutub
00:10:01.420 Like for example
00:10:02.220 That's not how
00:10:02.660 People understood
00:10:03.000 It can be
00:10:03.420 You can lie
00:10:04.020 To your spouse
00:10:05.060 In this situation
00:10:06.320 The issue of this
00:10:07.240 Is that
00:10:07.580 So can they lie
00:10:09.140 In the context
00:10:09.720 Of for example
00:10:10.280 If one says
00:10:11.020 I sense that
00:10:12.180 You've got a second wife
00:10:12.980 Can he say
00:10:13.880 No I don't
00:10:15.260 Yes you can
00:10:15.680 You can say that
00:10:16.240 You can say that
00:10:16.840 I personally believe
00:10:18.160 This is
00:10:18.560 The Hadith
00:10:19.420 On the Massah
00:10:19.820 The Prophet said
00:10:22.960 You can do it
00:10:24.180 I believe
00:10:25.160 It's possible
00:10:25.940 Now
00:10:26.200 Having said this
00:10:27.220 All
00:10:27.460 I said
00:10:28.780 This is the
00:10:29.080 Abstract ruling
00:10:29.740 Yes
00:10:30.140 But in implementation
00:10:32.140 Okay
00:10:33.080 Now do
00:10:34.240 Because
00:10:34.800 Like I said
00:10:35.560 The Hakum
00:10:36.000 Can take different
00:10:36.660 Rulings
00:10:37.120 Based on a
00:10:38.480 Personal
00:10:38.680 If someone does
00:10:39.580 This
00:10:39.900 And they get
00:10:40.860 Caught
00:10:41.200 For example
00:10:41.900 Or
00:10:42.900 Something happens
00:10:43.920 Or
00:10:44.960 She just asks him
00:10:47.860 Where were you
00:10:48.240 Last night
00:10:48.740 Yeah but even that
00:10:50.380 He can lie
00:10:50.800 So you are
00:10:52.440 Allowed to lie
00:10:53.100 Anything related
00:10:53.920 To the relationship
00:10:54.700 I believe
00:10:55.740 It's not anything
00:10:56.820 Because there are
00:10:57.400 Some things
00:10:57.720 You can never
00:10:58.060 Lie about
00:10:58.340 In Islam
00:10:58.640 Yeah
00:10:59.200 For example
00:11:00.020 You can never
00:11:00.420 Lie about
00:11:00.680 The religion
00:11:01.000 Of Islam
00:11:01.360 You can never
00:11:02.620 Lie about
00:11:03.100 Something which
00:11:03.580 Relates to
00:11:03.900 The rights
00:11:04.280 Of the person
00:11:04.740 You can never
00:11:05.780 Lie about
00:11:06.140 Something that
00:11:06.460 Relates to
00:11:06.780 Vested interests
00:11:07.840 Like the children
00:11:08.340 For example
00:11:08.840 There's things
00:11:09.960 You can never
00:11:10.340 Lie about
00:11:10.720 But I believe
00:11:12.340 Yes you can
00:11:12.920 Are you saying
00:11:14.200 In the context
00:11:14.680 Of for example
00:11:15.220 It's going to
00:11:16.260 Ruin the family
00:11:17.340 Unit
00:11:17.660 So he's lying
00:11:18.180 To protect his family
00:11:18.920 Look
00:11:20.040 I'm saying to you
00:11:20.720 I don't recommend this
00:11:21.600 But we started off
00:11:23.620 By saying
00:11:24.040 That there's two things
00:11:25.000 There's one aspect
00:11:25.780 Which is jurisprudential
00:11:26.640 And another aspect
00:11:28.000 Which is
00:11:28.560 Application
00:11:29.440 Jurisprudential
00:11:30.440 The man can do it
00:11:31.160 It's up to the man
00:11:31.960 No woman can take
00:11:33.340 That right amount
00:11:33.880 Away from the man
00:11:34.800 It's impossible
00:11:35.480 So let's say
00:11:36.120 It's not that it's right
00:11:36.760 Yeah
00:11:36.920 So that Islamically
00:11:37.920 Any of us
00:11:39.540 Can get a secret
00:11:40.700 Second wife
00:11:41.220 Absolutely
00:11:41.540 Or any man
00:11:42.040 For that
00:11:42.240 Not secret
00:11:42.680 We can get
00:11:43.360 Islamically
00:11:44.400 There is no problem
00:11:45.700 In a man
00:11:46.520 Getting married
00:11:47.120 To another woman
00:11:47.840 In Misyar
00:11:48.360 Without the first wife's knowledge
00:11:49.900 However
00:11:50.560 The question is
00:11:51.320 And there's no
00:11:52.440 There's no khilaf in this
00:11:53.300 There's no
00:11:54.360 Actually
00:11:54.720 I've not seen
00:11:55.480 One solitary
00:11:56.820 Difference of opinion
00:11:57.580 In any
00:11:58.800 Of the 14 generations
00:12:00.980 That's not there
00:12:02.340 Which is
00:12:03.040 Any scholar saying
00:12:03.940 That no
00:12:04.240 A woman needs to know
00:12:05.000 She needs to tell her
00:12:05.940 It doesn't exist
00:12:06.940 Yeah that's it
00:12:07.440 Having said that
00:12:08.860 Do I recommend it
00:12:10.300 No I don't recommend it
00:12:11.240 In general
00:12:11.480 No we'll come to it
00:12:12.200 We'll come
00:12:12.420 Hold you
00:12:12.680 Why do I recommend it
00:12:14.320 Okay guys
00:12:15.560 After this show
00:12:17.100 If you see any of us
00:12:18.220 Dead
00:12:18.520 Please come to our janazah
00:12:19.480 Please make du'a for us
00:12:21.240 And Sadaqajari
00:12:21.920 Sorry perhaps one more thing
00:12:23.060 Yes please
00:12:23.420 We're talking about
00:12:24.240 The religion of Islam
00:12:25.000 Like you know
00:12:26.120 Allah says
00:12:26.540 I'm not here to
00:12:28.880 Would you respect
00:12:29.760 I don't prostrate myself
00:12:31.120 To the emotions of
00:12:32.200 Women or men
00:12:33.220 Or anyone else
00:12:33.760 I'm speaking about
00:12:34.900 The religion
00:12:35.260 This is a ruling
00:12:35.880 We cannot distort
00:12:37.780 The rulings
00:12:38.260 There's an ayah in the Quran
00:12:39.100 Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
00:12:39.760 Says to the Prophet
00:12:40.260 That you know
00:12:41.600 Are you going to
00:12:42.500 Make something
00:12:43.320 Which is haram for you
00:12:44.280 Halal for you
00:12:45.080 Haram
00:12:45.580 Because of the fear
00:12:46.260 Of your wives
00:12:46.700 That's a very deep statement
00:12:47.920 That could be
00:12:48.660 To make your wives
00:12:50.280 Pleased with you
00:12:51.000 Exactly
00:12:51.380 Yeah so I believe
00:12:52.440 Brothers should fear Allah
00:12:53.320 More than their wives
00:12:54.060 But having said that
00:12:55.320 You guys heard it
00:12:56.040 I mean please tell me
00:12:57.580 I don't think
00:12:58.360 Let me just
00:12:58.660 I think there's
00:12:59.180 Bil-Ijma
00:12:59.620 Meaning there's consensus
00:13:00.860 That none of you guys
00:13:02.500 Are okay with your
00:13:03.180 Husbands getting a second wife
00:13:04.900 Can I just quickly
00:13:05.420 Just get that out of the way
00:13:06.120 Sister Suad
00:13:06.760 Absolutely not
00:13:08.700 You're not okay with it
00:13:09.500 Yeah
00:13:09.620 Sister
00:13:10.440 It's a no from me
00:13:11.840 And if you have anything to say
00:13:13.420 Say it now
00:13:14.080 Sister Amira
00:13:16.940 Yeah no
00:13:18.240 No
00:13:18.500 Sister Tara
00:13:19.460 I won't be happy with it
00:13:20.800 Okay she won't be happy with it
00:13:21.600 Okay now listen
00:13:22.420 I like that response
00:13:23.340 Now listen
00:13:23.700 Yeah Amir Ab listen
00:13:24.420 Now listen to us brothers
00:13:25.480 Okay starting from Dawood
00:13:26.680 Would you say you are
00:13:28.020 Polygamist by nature
00:13:28.860 Hey we had this conversation before
00:13:31.060 Can we have you on the mic please
00:13:32.020 I disagree with you
00:13:33.260 No no no
00:13:33.820 I'm just asking a simple question
00:13:34.500 Let's not go into the nitty gritty
00:13:35.300 All I'm saying is
00:13:35.980 I'm not going to say
00:13:37.140 I'm polygamist by nature
00:13:38.300 I'll say that
00:13:39.100 Bro bro bro
00:13:39.800 Let me answer the question again
00:13:41.120 Yeah
00:13:41.320 If your wife
00:13:42.980 Was totally okay with it
00:13:45.560 Yeah
00:13:45.800 Zero problems
00:13:47.500 You come back home
00:13:48.820 And she's cooking a meal bruv
00:13:50.180 You just got married
00:13:50.740 Yeah
00:13:51.120 Would you get a second wife
00:13:52.260 Yeah
00:13:52.500 Okay
00:13:52.980 No we're going to miss the brother
00:13:54.840 Because we don't want to
00:13:55.380 Look okay
00:13:58.000 We're just saying this
00:13:59.580 Within our nature
00:14:00.320 Just be careful Saj
00:14:01.700 Be careful
00:14:02.200 Just joke to Saj
00:14:02.620 Yeah
00:14:02.880 If you die we loved you
00:14:04.940 Yeah
00:14:05.160 For the cause yeah
00:14:06.180 Okay brothers
00:14:07.060 Okay
00:14:07.520 What I'm just saying is that
00:14:08.720 As a man
00:14:09.380 Would you not say you are
00:14:10.220 Polygamist by nature
00:14:10.940 It doesn't mean you have to
00:14:11.720 Act up on it
00:14:12.320 But would you not say that
00:14:14.300 Every man is polygamist
00:14:16.040 By nature
00:14:16.880 That if their wives
00:14:17.960 Were totally okay with it
00:14:19.100 No consequences
00:14:20.160 That they would do it
00:14:21.760 I don't think I would
00:14:23.700 Aww
00:14:24.500 No no no no
00:14:25.980 No no
00:14:26.560 One second one second
00:14:27.360 One second one second
00:14:27.980 One second one second
00:14:28.040 Because the thing is
00:14:29.260 I work on the doors
00:14:31.280 Guys one second
00:14:32.700 Well the thing is
00:14:33.120 I work on the doors
00:14:34.200 Because there's conflict of interest
00:14:35.220 Yeah yeah
00:14:35.740 I work on the doors
00:14:36.760 I work on the doors
00:14:38.120 Okay
00:14:38.740 The thing is
00:14:39.340 I work on the doors
00:14:40.160 Because there's so many women
00:14:40.980 Out there
00:14:41.420 But the thing is
00:14:42.140 It doesn't do nothing for me
00:14:43.400 No no we know that
00:14:44.220 Look I have no doubt about that
00:14:45.440 What I'm saying is the following
00:14:46.240 Aki yeah
00:14:46.640 The reason I'm saying this
00:14:49.180 Yeah and we need to be
00:14:49.900 Brutally honest yeah
00:14:50.880 The reason I'm saying this
00:14:51.760 You know why
00:14:52.140 Because sisters are under
00:14:53.640 The impression
00:14:54.140 That there is a man out there
00:14:56.000 That is
00:14:57.340 Not polygamous
00:14:58.420 I believe
00:14:59.260 But that's true
00:15:00.100 That can be true
00:15:01.000 Anyone that thinks
00:15:02.180 That is delusional
00:15:02.960 No it is true
00:15:03.880 Not every man
00:15:05.260 Is a polygamous
00:15:05.960 One second one second
00:15:07.500 Look let me tell you something
00:15:08.280 If they brought a lie detector test
00:15:09.800 Right now this second
00:15:11.180 No no no one second
00:15:12.200 You know why
00:15:12.760 No no no no
00:15:14.240 Listen listen listen
00:15:17.520 If they put me
00:15:18.500 Hijab
00:15:18.980 Brother Siltage
00:15:19.600 The word on lie detector test
00:15:21.020 And they said the following questions
00:15:22.500 Do you love your wife
00:15:23.940 Yes
00:15:24.600 Pass
00:15:25.260 Would you die for her
00:15:26.440 Yes
00:15:26.840 Pass
00:15:27.380 If your wife was okay
00:15:28.900 Would you get a second wife
00:15:29.660 Yes pass
00:15:30.980 There is not
00:15:32.620 A conflict between
00:15:34.000 A man loving his wife
00:15:35.660 And a man
00:15:37.160 Wanting to be polygamous
00:15:38.540 I agree
00:15:39.080 And this is very important
00:15:40.340 If we're going to
00:15:41.120 And I'm not saying
00:15:41.680 I hear you out here
00:15:42.840 But what I'm saying is
00:15:44.120 Listen listen
00:15:47.100 Let's pass you
00:15:47.720 Okay
00:15:48.000 Let's pass you
00:15:48.820 Because we're here to
00:15:49.480 Make my soul
00:15:50.260 What are you trying to say
00:15:51.300 That every man
00:15:52.160 Would want to
00:15:53.780 Yes
00:15:54.260 Men are polygamous by nature
00:15:56.020 Women are jealous by nature
00:15:57.380 I believe
00:15:57.920 Men are polygamous by nature
00:15:59.640 Thank you
00:16:00.000 They are
00:16:00.680 They are how we've are
00:16:01.780 Guys
00:16:02.420 Guys
00:16:02.920 Guys
00:16:03.300 Guys
00:16:03.920 Guys
00:16:04.160 We can hear you
00:16:04.700 Please
00:16:04.960 Please
00:16:05.380 Forgive me
00:16:06.000 Because it's coming
00:16:06.800 At the back of the mic
00:16:07.420 Please forgive me
00:16:07.920 I'm going to stop the issue
00:16:09.180 I haven't
00:16:09.500 This is
00:16:09.920 The reason why I started the show
00:16:11.580 And I called it
00:16:12.000 Bitter Truth for a reason
00:16:12.820 Is because
00:16:13.440 At the end
00:16:13.680 Look my wife is here
00:16:14.460 She's a co-producer
00:16:15.180 Okay
00:16:15.440 If I went to my wife
00:16:16.700 And said
00:16:16.960 If I got married again
00:16:17.620 She would say
00:16:18.200 Of my dick body
00:16:18.860 I don't want it
00:16:19.680 I understand that
00:16:20.920 And any woman that says
00:16:21.880 She's not
00:16:22.580 She's okay with it
00:16:23.560 I'll say
00:16:24.020 I'm so sorry
00:16:24.420 You're not
00:16:24.680 Because the best of the women
00:16:25.860 Who are believers
00:16:26.400 Smashed plates
00:16:27.600 Literally smashed plates
00:16:28.920 Yeah
00:16:29.100 Now the point is the following though
00:16:30.840 The reason you're saying that sister
00:16:32.740 Is why
00:16:33.420 Because
00:16:33.800 We as men
00:16:34.920 We are
00:16:35.580 And the studies that show this
00:16:37.120 We are created in a way
00:16:39.700 Of procreating
00:16:40.680 For example
00:16:41.320 If for example
00:16:42.960 There was four men left on earth
00:16:44.420 Yeah
00:16:44.580 And that was it
00:16:46.020 Yeah
00:16:46.180 They can start a new generation
00:16:48.020 Those four men
00:16:49.080 They can
00:16:49.440 Forgive me
00:16:50.000 Just for educational purposes
00:16:50.820 Yeah
00:16:50.960 They can impregnate
00:16:51.960 Thousands of women
00:16:52.820 That's within our nature
00:16:54.520 But if a woman
00:16:55.780 There was four women left on this planet
00:16:57.080 Yeah
00:16:57.740 They're finished
00:16:58.860 Because you're given birth
00:16:59.960 Nine months
00:17:00.460 You're out the game
00:17:01.240 So the point I'm saying
00:17:02.280 When it comes to
00:17:02.980 The evolution
00:17:03.940 And a few other factors
00:17:06.120 The point I'm trying to say
00:17:07.280 Is the following
00:17:07.680 Like you know
00:17:08.920 When it comes to survival
00:17:10.040 You have to procreate
00:17:11.400 Yeah
00:17:11.560 Every man is polygamous by nature
00:17:14.620 In the context where
00:17:15.460 Because you guys are monogamous by nature
00:17:18.200 Meaning
00:17:18.520 You are
00:17:19.080 You just want your husband
00:17:20.420 And you're happy with your husband
00:17:21.260 We are not created like that
00:17:22.840 And anyone that says
00:17:24.280 They are
00:17:24.880 Vice versa
00:17:26.280 And this is the reason
00:17:27.400 Why we started the show
00:17:28.140 Get to know us better
00:17:29.380 Understand us men
00:17:30.560 This is in our blood
00:17:31.780 Okay
00:17:32.080 Now
00:17:32.740 Coming back to you
00:17:34.300 You can just say it
00:17:35.860 Just say it
00:17:36.380 I know what you mean
00:17:38.260 No what I mean is
00:17:39.080 That in our nature
00:17:39.860 This doesn't mean
00:17:40.400 It is in our nature
00:17:41.280 Yeah
00:17:41.520 Ali can you reframe the question
00:17:43.600 Okay I'm so sorry
00:17:44.520 So can you
00:17:45.060 One second guys
00:17:46.660 One second
00:17:46.980 Guys from there
00:17:47.840 Please
00:17:48.140 You let my wife know
00:17:49.380 And then for me
00:17:49.920 And then I'll come to you guys
00:17:50.600 Can you reframe the question
00:17:52.340 To the brothers
00:17:53.260 And say
00:17:53.780 That if your wife agreed
00:17:55.880 And she's happy
00:17:56.800 Would you like to
00:17:58.940 Look I get the polygamous part
00:18:00.440 I get the whole
00:18:01.320 Wanting to have more
00:18:03.080 Intimacy with more than one woman
00:18:04.600 Yeah
00:18:04.880 But if you can ask the question
00:18:06.400 More accurately
00:18:08.120 That take on another wife
00:18:10.120 And all the responsibilities
00:18:11.300 That come with another wife
00:18:12.880 Good
00:18:13.160 How many men
00:18:14.060 Will agree to that
00:18:14.940 Good you know what
00:18:15.700 And that's
00:18:16.100 I'll tell you with my husband
00:18:18.060 He's made it very clear
00:18:19.100 In that
00:18:19.640 Yeah
00:18:19.900 That you know
00:18:20.900 The headache and the stress
00:18:22.280 Not that I give him
00:18:23.080 Headache and stress
00:18:23.880 But just he's so content
00:18:25.380 In our relationship
00:18:26.260 Okay
00:18:26.740 He wouldn't see himself
00:18:28.260 You know
00:18:28.920 Engaged in another
00:18:29.980 That because
00:18:30.480 Okay okay
00:18:31.080 Let me put this here
00:18:32.360 This is the reason
00:18:32.960 Why the topic is
00:18:33.560 Secret second wives
00:18:34.280 Is the question
00:18:35.080 That needs to be asked
00:18:35.620 Is that
00:18:36.160 Why are men
00:18:37.660 Even
00:18:38.260 Choosing
00:18:39.560 To make it secret
00:18:40.880 And the whole reason
00:18:42.320 Is because
00:18:43.320 If your husband
00:18:44.760 Is to come to you
00:18:45.480 And say
00:18:45.940 Hmm
00:18:46.960 I want to get married again
00:18:48.440 And I want to do it properly
00:18:49.800 Yeah
00:18:50.060 Now I say to the sisters
00:18:51.340 If you don't want your husband
00:18:52.980 To get a second wife
00:18:53.880 You
00:18:54.600 Tell him
00:18:55.720 That if he's going to get
00:18:56.720 A second wife
00:18:57.300 He has to do it properly
00:18:58.280 Meaning
00:18:58.700 Which is why
00:18:59.480 And let me tell you something
00:19:00.020 If you don't want your husband
00:19:00.780 To get a second wife
00:19:01.400 Implement this
00:19:01.980 Yeah
00:19:02.140 You tell him
00:19:03.180 You're going to marry her
00:19:03.860 You're going to do
00:19:04.460 A wulima for her
00:19:05.000 You're going to get her mahar
00:19:05.800 You're going to get
00:19:06.480 All of this stuff
00:19:06.980 You know what he'll say
00:19:07.460 He'll say
00:19:07.700 Bro that's long
00:19:08.520 Absolutely
00:19:09.120 But if there are men
00:19:10.700 Out there who can do that
00:19:11.760 The question I want to ask
00:19:12.900 You guys is
00:19:13.360 What is the right way
00:19:15.020 So men don't go
00:19:16.080 Behind their wives back
00:19:16.960 Why are they keeping it secret
00:19:17.940 Because they are scared
00:19:19.020 Of the consequences
00:19:19.820 Not seeing their kids
00:19:20.880 Being kicked out
00:19:21.880 Being black
00:19:22.400 These are major sins by the way
00:19:23.400 Not showing your kids
00:19:24.300 I know brothers
00:19:25.060 Who have been divorced
00:19:25.800 And not seeing their kids
00:19:26.880 Because they wanted to get
00:19:27.800 Second wife
00:19:28.340 This is dhulm
00:19:29.720 On the day of judgment
00:19:30.420 Are you mad
00:19:30.920 Something he did halal
00:19:32.220 Understand
00:19:32.680 It's emotional
00:19:33.220 You're upset
00:19:33.780 You are stopping him
00:19:35.140 From seeing his kids
00:19:35.880 You are now going to the law
00:19:37.200 Bro we had brothers here
00:19:38.220 We had fathers here
00:19:38.960 Accused of paedophilia
00:19:40.820 With their kids
00:19:41.500 Because of a bitter wife
00:19:43.160 I'm asking a simple question
00:19:44.360 I think that's
00:19:44.940 Bill Ijma here
00:19:45.540 You guys would never want it
00:19:46.780 We would definitely
00:19:48.080 But there are ways
00:19:50.220 That women
00:19:50.960 Can implement
00:19:52.020 Where a husband
00:19:53.740 Cannot
00:19:54.620 Marry a second wife
00:19:55.980 If he agrees
00:19:57.060 And signs
00:19:57.820 On the day of the nikah
00:19:59.500 He cannot
00:20:00.500 He cannot then
00:20:01.800 Go and get a secret wife
00:20:03.160 That's the hanbali madhab
00:20:03.800 But if somebody doesn't believe
00:20:04.660 That it's battered
00:20:05.200 He doesn't even acknowledge
00:20:06.200 And also
00:20:07.500 Yes yes yes
00:20:08.980 I'm going to give it to you
00:20:10.060 But after him
00:20:11.520 I want to ask you guys a question
00:20:12.500 Please can you tell us
00:20:13.460 The correct way
00:20:14.300 Of going about it
00:20:15.060 So it's not secret
00:20:15.840 But this is
00:20:17.020 What she said
00:20:17.520 There's truth in what she said
00:20:18.840 It's actually mentioned
00:20:24.340 In all the books
00:20:24.940 Of the Hanbal
00:20:25.800 Ibn Khudamah mentions that
00:20:28.060 What do you call it
00:20:29.060 Amr Dawi mentions that
00:20:29.940 Al-Hajjawi mentions it
00:20:30.640 Even Zal-Mustaqma
00:20:31.360 Amr Musa Al-Hajjawi mentions it
00:20:33.540 So many people mention it
00:20:34.420 Bahuti
00:20:34.840 So this is
00:20:36.500 What you're saying
00:20:37.260 Is legitimate
00:20:37.860 In fact
00:20:38.580 If someone puts in the contract
00:20:40.820 Maybe I should
00:20:41.580 Give in all
00:20:42.200 No you should
00:20:42.760 Give the tips
00:20:43.340 No no no
00:20:43.800 Even if she gives the brothers
00:20:45.780 It's a bitter truth
00:20:47.760 We're giving
00:20:48.180 We're giving all the
00:20:49.560 Funny enough
00:20:51.300 Funny enough
00:20:52.520 I'm Hanbali myself
00:20:53.300 I'm Maliki
00:20:55.680 But all the other
00:20:57.840 Madhaib actually
00:20:58.460 Don't agree with this
00:20:59.220 And the reason why
00:21:00.220 Is they bring it
00:21:00.740 There's a hadith
00:21:01.280 That says
00:21:02.560 That any condition
00:21:06.200 That is not
00:21:06.860 In the book of Allah
00:21:08.520 Then it's nullified
00:21:09.520 So they say
00:21:10.660 That this is a
00:21:11.500 Incorrect
00:21:12.060 So the Hanafis
00:21:12.600 Don't accept this
00:21:13.100 And Shafah
00:21:13.420 Don't accept this
00:21:14.020 And the Maliki
00:21:14.420 Don't accept this
00:21:15.060 So if the woman
00:21:15.900 Is Hanbali
00:21:16.500 For example
00:21:17.080 She puts this agreement
00:21:18.220 And he's not this thing
00:21:19.580 No but
00:21:21.720 He's not this thing
00:21:22.540 He doesn't
00:21:22.860 It's all about
00:21:23.300 What he believes in
00:21:23.900 If he doesn't believe in it
00:21:24.660 It might not be
00:21:25.680 Voracious
00:21:26.620 However
00:21:26.960 I would put to this
00:21:28.020 I would add to it
00:21:28.740 The Prophet
00:21:29.420 Did say
00:21:30.080 Muslims are upon
00:21:32.500 Their condition
00:21:33.040 Which is
00:21:34.040 All you who believe
00:21:37.300 Fulfill the contract
00:21:39.320 So if a man
00:21:40.940 Does sign something
00:21:41.560 Like that
00:21:41.980 I would personally
00:21:43.240 Believe it's an
00:21:43.720 Obligation for him
00:21:44.460 To honour that
00:21:46.300 Having said that
00:21:47.960 Once again
00:21:48.940 It goes back to
00:21:49.400 Him that he's
00:21:49.780 Following
00:21:49.980 So if he's not
00:21:50.880 Following that
00:21:51.300 Particular school of thought
00:21:52.240 If he is
00:21:53.780 If he isn't
00:21:54.280 That's something else
00:21:54.980 So that's just
00:21:56.080 I think that's a good point
00:21:57.300 Before we slide away
00:21:59.140 Because I feel like
00:21:59.900 The first question
00:22:01.200 That was asked
00:22:01.920 About
00:22:02.420 Is secret
00:22:04.780 Is it okay
00:22:05.900 To have a secret
00:22:06.520 I would love
00:22:07.460 To go back there
00:22:08.220 I mean
00:22:09.120 I think
00:22:09.500 I haven't
00:22:11.260 Personally looked into it
00:22:12.340 So I'll take your word
00:22:13.460 So I don't know
00:22:14.360 That might be
00:22:14.860 A different opinion
00:22:15.520 I don't know
00:22:16.060 I take what
00:22:17.260 Hijab said
00:22:17.900 About like
00:22:19.180 That it's
00:22:19.880 Like agreed upon
00:22:20.900 That you
00:22:21.400 You shouldn't
00:22:22.280 That it's okay
00:22:23.060 To do a secret
00:22:23.720 But I would love
00:22:24.780 To speak about
00:22:25.680 The implications
00:22:26.460 That it has a bit more
00:22:28.040 Because it's
00:22:28.840 Something I feel like
00:22:30.400 That we didn't
00:22:32.500 Really discuss
00:22:33.060 Because
00:22:33.420 Because the implication
00:22:35.280 Here is
00:22:35.840 That
00:22:36.540 The secret
00:22:38.000 Like okay
00:22:38.940 Obviously nothing
00:22:40.020 Is really secret
00:22:40.980 Again you can't
00:22:42.020 Have a secret wife
00:22:42.700 Per se
00:22:43.140 Because
00:22:43.560 Yeah it's
00:22:45.300 Marriage
00:22:46.500 In Islam
00:22:47.380 The way
00:22:47.880 It's constructed
00:22:49.600 Yeah but let's
00:22:50.320 Not sugar coat it
00:22:51.440 It's a secret
00:22:52.300 From the first wife
00:22:53.580 I'm gonna
00:22:54.280 Do you know what I mean
00:22:54.900 I'm gonna get that
00:22:55.640 I'm gonna get that
00:22:56.240 Yeah but this is
00:22:56.900 The whole thing
00:22:57.480 May I finish
00:22:58.200 May I finish
00:22:58.620 Because
00:22:59.020 You can use a buzzer
00:22:59.980 It's a secret
00:23:00.680 From the first wife
00:23:01.560 Yeah but
00:23:01.880 I'm trying to take it
00:23:03.140 Elsewhere
00:23:03.440 I'm trying to go deep
00:23:04.360 I wanna go deep
00:23:04.980 I wanna go deep
00:23:05.580 So what I'm trying to say
00:23:06.620 Is that
00:23:07.180 Islam
00:23:09.020 In the way that Islam
00:23:09.900 Has constructed marriage
00:23:11.460 Is marriage is
00:23:12.140 Like a communal thing
00:23:13.240 So
00:23:13.580 There's always
00:23:14.400 Other people involved
00:23:15.400 But
00:23:16.500 It will be a secret
00:23:18.040 To the
00:23:18.900 Person that
00:23:19.780 Matters the most
00:23:20.740 Which is the wife
00:23:21.480 Right
00:23:22.180 And I don't think that
00:23:23.900 That causes
00:23:25.540 Cohesion
00:23:26.480 In the long term
00:23:28.060 In a society
00:23:29.220 Imagine
00:23:29.620 If we were to live
00:23:30.740 In a society
00:23:31.260 Where there's a
00:23:31.760 Considerable amount
00:23:32.440 Of men
00:23:33.160 Who do this
00:23:34.320 And there's so many
00:23:35.760 Implications that
00:23:36.700 Come out of it
00:23:37.360 The children out of
00:23:38.440 Those marriages
00:23:39.040 Do they know
00:23:40.320 That they're siblings
00:23:41.100 Thank you
00:23:41.940 I'm so glad
00:23:43.020 You've mentioned
00:23:43.500 Children
00:23:44.020 Yes true
00:23:45.980 But why
00:23:46.480 Is the man
00:23:47.000 Keeping a secret
00:23:47.560 I'm just gonna finish
00:23:48.500 I'm just gonna finish
00:23:49.620 Why is the man
00:23:50.820 Keeping a secret
00:23:51.460 And I'm gonna get there
00:23:52.880 And I'm with you
00:23:53.720 On that one
00:23:54.180 I'm just saying that
00:23:55.440 For those brothers
00:23:57.000 Who do these things
00:23:58.120 You just always
00:23:58.940 You must understand
00:23:59.840 That
00:24:00.120 The pain
00:24:01.480 And
00:24:01.940 The misery
00:24:03.560 That could be
00:24:04.700 A byproduct
00:24:05.260 Of this thing
00:24:06.040 Is
00:24:06.840 Tremendous
00:24:07.680 And therefore
00:24:09.240 I wouldn't
00:24:10.280 Like I said
00:24:10.760 There's a very important point
00:24:13.360 You mentioned the kids
00:24:14.140 That's an important point
00:24:15.300 Inheritance is another
00:24:15.960 Important point
00:24:16.440 These are two things
00:24:17.100 You can't really
00:24:17.460 Because actually
00:24:18.300 The messiah thing
00:24:19.160 You cannot actually
00:24:19.820 Tenezzle
00:24:20.240 On inheritance
00:24:21.800 It's not
00:24:23.180 You cannot forego
00:24:24.740 That right
00:24:25.120 As a woman
00:24:26.160 Yes
00:24:27.060 You know you're allowed
00:24:28.100 To forego rights
00:24:28.740 You're not allowed
00:24:29.100 To forego your inheritance
00:24:30.020 So it poses an issue here
00:24:32.180 So the guy has to
00:24:33.480 Kind of put her
00:24:33.960 On inheritance
00:24:34.420 Or whatever
00:24:34.800 That's one issue
00:24:35.420 The other issue is
00:24:36.660 Like we said
00:24:37.460 The children
00:24:37.900 If there's children
00:24:39.080 From both wives
00:24:39.880 And they're in the same proximity
00:24:41.140 And there is some level
00:24:42.340 Of possibility
00:24:43.240 That they could
00:24:43.800 Co-mingle
00:24:45.240 Then that could be
00:24:46.440 Completely haram
00:24:47.240 For them
00:24:47.560 For that to happen
00:24:48.280 Because now
00:24:48.780 The implication
00:24:49.520 Is incest
00:24:50.420 And all that kind of stuff
00:24:50.960 Exactly
00:24:51.260 So this is
00:24:52.180 This is one thing
00:24:52.900 But having said this
00:24:54.540 You know
00:24:55.180 And I agree with what he said
00:24:56.500 This is
00:24:56.880 What we're talking about
00:24:57.660 Is an exceptional circumstance
00:24:58.820 That Sharia doesn't want this
00:24:59.860 It's clear that
00:25:01.100 The Sharia wants
00:25:01.920 People to know about marriages
00:25:03.460 It's clear that Sharia wants
00:25:04.920 There to be
00:25:05.500 A transparency in the equation
00:25:07.020 That everyone is given
00:25:08.080 It's clear that
00:25:08.920 The Sharia doesn't want this
00:25:10.140 It's clear that
00:25:11.280 These are the exceptional circumstances
00:25:13.000 So we shouldn't make it
00:25:13.740 The default
00:25:14.840 Having said that
00:25:16.780 Why?
00:25:17.040 We're living in an age now
00:25:18.340 Where frankly
00:25:20.300 The woman has the state backing
00:25:22.800 Like for instance
00:25:24.580 If a woman
00:25:25.060 If the woman goes
00:25:26.180 And says
00:25:26.720 That a man has raped me
00:25:28.480 Or that he has
00:25:29.400 Molested the child
00:25:30.720 Or that he's been domestic
00:25:31.880 He can
00:25:32.600 There's a chance
00:25:33.360 That he can never see
00:25:34.380 The children again
00:25:35.260 Like for example
00:25:36.560 The .gov website
00:25:37.820 I was reading recently
00:25:39.020 Just now
00:25:39.480 Like two days ago
00:25:40.640 They're now expanding
00:25:43.360 The definition of abuse
00:25:44.980 They said abuse
00:25:46.200 I can send this to you
00:25:47.060 Abuse includes
00:25:48.280 In controlling behaviour
00:25:51.240 Now controlling behaviour
00:25:52.860 What does that
00:25:53.700 It's so vague
00:25:54.460 That it actually slides into
00:25:56.400 Some of the traditionalist discourse
00:25:57.600 If you think about it
00:25:58.660 Controlling behaviour
00:25:59.860 It's said in the .gov website
00:26:01.740 That it is on par
00:26:03.060 With physical violence
00:26:04.080 And if a man does it
00:26:05.040 He can be on the sexual register
00:26:07.700 Sorry
00:26:08.220 I was on a documentary
00:26:09.740 For the BBC
00:26:10.560 And it's called
00:26:11.920 Is this coercive control
00:26:13.480 And when we speak
00:26:16.200 Of coercive control
00:26:17.260 The reason why
00:26:18.220 It can be equated
00:26:19.660 To physical violence
00:26:20.880 Is because of
00:26:22.540 The amount of damage
00:26:24.440 That can happen
00:26:25.980 Coercive control
00:26:27.100 Although it doesn't seem
00:26:29.000 Like dangerous
00:26:30.660 I know what you're saying
00:26:32.040 Of course
00:26:32.500 Amira
00:26:33.360 From what I wrote
00:26:35.080 From the document
00:26:35.600 It used two keywords
00:26:36.740 In self
00:26:38.120 Like it was self-contained
00:26:40.320 Two different sentences
00:26:41.520 Coercion was one word
00:26:42.940 And control was another word
00:26:44.860 What you're doing now
00:26:45.820 Is using both words
00:26:46.440 No but they are one thing
00:26:47.720 So coercive control
00:26:49.120 Is one
00:26:49.940 It is one
00:26:50.900 It is one
00:26:51.720 Crime
00:26:52.320 No no
00:26:52.740 The reason
00:26:53.200 They're not the same
00:26:54.080 Because in the dictionary
00:26:54.800 You'll see coercion means
00:26:55.820 To force someone to do something
00:26:56.840 Control is not necessarily
00:26:58.420 It can have a wider meaning
00:26:59.600 Right
00:27:00.040 So what I'm saying is
00:27:01.100 Controlling behaviour
00:27:02.320 You can say my mum
00:27:03.020 Had controlling behaviour of me
00:27:04.140 She was controlling
00:27:04.760 You cannot say that she had
00:27:06.380 Coercive behaviour
00:27:07.100 That means that
00:27:07.660 She forced you to do something
00:27:08.680 What I'm saying is that
00:27:10.020 We're not talking about
00:27:10.640 Forcing someone to do something
00:27:11.660 Like putting them in a house
00:27:13.440 And locking them
00:27:13.920 We are talking about
00:27:14.820 A situation
00:27:15.820 Where someone is telling
00:27:17.380 Someone else what to do
00:27:18.220 Which you can see
00:27:19.760 That leads into
00:27:20.620 Ta'a and obedience
00:27:21.600 And that kind of thing
00:27:22.240 Which that could be seen
00:27:23.220 As controlling
00:27:23.680 So what I'm saying is that
00:27:24.760 Consider the things
00:27:26.720 At the man's disposal
00:27:27.520 As a Muslim man
00:27:28.560 He's got ta'a
00:27:29.640 Okay
00:27:30.380 Ta'a means obedience
00:27:32.340 These are the things
00:27:33.780 That a man has
00:27:34.220 He's got talaq
00:27:35.300 Or she can do fash
00:27:36.260 Or he can do it quicker
00:27:37.520 Even she can do fash
00:27:39.460 Right
00:27:39.720 And then he's got
00:27:40.860 The financial thing
00:27:42.180 Where he can reduce
00:27:43.120 According to all the mudahe
00:27:44.060 I'm not sure all of them
00:27:46.380 Definitely the hamd
00:27:46.920 He can
00:27:48.300 If she's being bad
00:27:49.300 She can take money
00:27:50.080 Away from her
00:27:50.540 I'm not sure if you know this
00:27:52.420 If she's nasty
00:27:53.320 Now if you do one and two
00:27:55.340 This can be seen
00:27:56.720 In this country
00:27:57.360 As abuse
00:27:59.320 So if she has evidence of that
00:28:01.820 And she's got the stake backing
00:28:03.300 If he tries to impose
00:28:05.120 His masculinity
00:28:05.840 Or his Islamic
00:28:06.840 You know
00:28:08.040 Abilities on her
00:28:08.840 Then she can respond
00:28:09.960 In a malicious manner
00:28:11.160 Which is why I would say
00:28:12.240 That if a woman
00:28:12.800 Shows her claws in that way
00:28:14.020 Where now he's doing
00:28:15.660 What he's allowed to do
00:28:16.840 In Islam
00:28:17.180 And she's now giving him
00:28:18.420 Blackmailing
00:28:18.960 Threatening
00:28:19.320 And stuff like that
00:28:20.020 In a situation like this
00:28:21.080 I would actually recommend
00:28:22.120 For certain men
00:28:23.300 Where he feels like
00:28:24.580 If she knew
00:28:26.320 She blackmails him
00:28:27.380 If you get divorced to me
00:28:28.480 Another man will raise
00:28:29.760 Your children
00:28:30.160 Or let's say
00:28:31.040 Let me just say
00:28:31.480 For example
00:28:32.400 If you get divorced
00:28:33.880 If this happens
00:28:35.820 You'll never see
00:28:36.260 Your children again
00:28:36.880 The moment you see
00:28:38.340 A woman speaking like that
00:28:39.360 This is an option
00:28:40.640 Of secret, second
00:28:41.480 Whatever you want to call it
00:28:42.220 I think it becomes
00:28:43.040 A very religious option
00:28:44.220 And are men to blame
00:28:46.420 To go down that route
00:28:47.920 When they have wives
00:28:49.340 Who are going to
00:28:50.260 Make their life hell
00:28:51.080 So just to get back
00:28:53.360 To that point
00:28:54.000 I think
00:28:54.600 It's fine
00:28:56.060 But there's a term
00:28:59.260 In Islam
00:28:59.860 Taqabbeh
00:29:00.740 Where somebody
00:29:02.840 Is now abusing
00:29:04.200 That
00:29:04.980 And it says
00:29:06.380 I'm sure there's a hadith
00:29:07.640 It says
00:29:08.460 Where you shouldn't
00:29:09.820 Do that to your wife
00:29:11.340 For a prolonged time
00:29:13.200 And if somebody
00:29:14.240 Taqabbeh
00:29:15.260 So insulting
00:29:17.400 Or taking away
00:29:19.180 Their rights
00:29:20.020 And things like that
00:29:20.660 If somebody is abusing that
00:29:22.240 Then okay
00:29:22.980 That's one case
00:29:24.080 But of course
00:29:25.240 There are women
00:29:26.020 Out here
00:29:26.660 Who do abuse
00:29:28.100 The state backing
00:29:30.360 In regards to the children
00:29:32.440 Which I'm completely
00:29:33.500 In disagreeance with
00:29:35.100 Okay we know
00:29:35.660 But it's
00:29:35.940 Okay
00:29:36.340 So back to the
00:29:37.240 Secret, second wives
00:29:38.100 So back to the
00:29:38.360 Secret, second wives
00:29:39.940 Before you continue
00:29:42.560 I don't think
00:29:44.000 What you said
00:29:44.580 Is correct
00:29:45.400 About the taqabbah
00:29:46.960 Yani
00:29:48.320 La taqabbah al wajj
00:29:49.780 Is what you're talking about
00:29:50.680 There's only one hadith
00:29:51.580 La taqabbah al wajj
00:29:52.640 Don't hit the face
00:29:53.380 But there's
00:29:54.320 Which means
00:29:55.080 Taqabbah means
00:29:56.840 Actually
00:29:57.740 Qabiha means ugly
00:29:58.700 Qabiha means ugly thing
00:30:00.800 So taqabih means
00:30:03.000 To make something ugly
00:30:04.800 The only hadith
00:30:06.100 But there is a different meaning
00:30:07.300 For it
00:30:07.760 No, no
00:30:08.060 Taqabih
00:30:08.980 Qabiha means ugly thing
00:30:10.580 Okay
00:30:11.060 Tahseen means beautiful thing
00:30:13.200 Alright
00:30:13.840 So tahseen is beautiful
00:30:15.560 Taqabih
00:30:16.040 So taqabbah
00:30:17.220 La taqabbah al wajj
00:30:18.240 The Prophet
00:30:18.760 As-Salaam said that
00:30:19.360 Which means
00:30:19.760 Don't hit
00:30:20.460 Don't humiliate the face
00:30:22.140 You know
00:30:23.620 There's a hadith on that
00:30:24.920 But
00:30:25.080 So just
00:30:25.880 We need to be clear
00:30:26.680 Okay
00:30:26.940 Can we come back
00:30:28.040 To the topic at hand
00:30:28.740 Okay sorry
00:30:29.280 Can I make the point
00:30:30.280 So for me
00:30:31.340 I agree
00:30:32.020 Why are men going down that route
00:30:32.980 Of hiding it from their wives
00:30:35.180 Because we don't want this to be secret
00:30:36.500 I'll be honest with you
00:30:36.980 No man
00:30:37.500 Wants to keep it secret
00:30:38.520 No man wants to go do anything
00:30:39.620 Behind his wife's back
00:30:40.500 So the point is this
00:30:42.180 If we are created in this manner
00:30:43.400 You guys are created
00:30:44.340 With certain hormones
00:30:45.080 Yes
00:30:45.540 For example
00:30:46.220 Because we're learning here
00:30:47.200 Yes
00:30:47.600 You have your period
00:30:48.100 You have your menopause
00:30:48.980 You become pregnant
00:30:50.900 Etc
00:30:51.200 There are so many factors
00:30:52.440 Men don't blame women
00:30:53.940 And say
00:30:54.200 Oh you know
00:30:54.620 Why are you on your period
00:30:55.140 Why are you on menopause for
00:30:56.600 Yeah
00:30:56.960 And when it comes to intimacy
00:30:58.600 A lot of men actually feel deprived
00:30:59.940 They're partners
00:31:01.140 Just they're not as bothered
00:31:02.300 And the thing is here
00:31:03.400 That now we as men
00:31:04.420 Are men are blamed
00:31:05.580 No no
00:31:06.140 We as men are blamed
00:31:07.100 For a hormone
00:31:07.800 That we are created
00:31:08.520 We accept your hormone
00:31:09.360 You own that hormone
00:31:10.240 No problem
00:31:10.740 No intimacy for a week
00:31:12.300 No problem
00:31:13.020 Menopause
00:31:13.580 Pregnancy
00:31:14.320 It's all good
00:31:14.980 When a man has these hormones
00:31:16.620 Number one
00:31:17.180 You are not allowed to have it
00:31:18.400 Number two
00:31:19.380 If you were to go to act upon it
00:31:20.960 I'm going to make your life hell
00:31:22.180 So I'm asking a simple question
00:31:23.400 What does a man should do
00:31:25.420 Tell me
00:31:25.700 Men want to know
00:31:26.780 The correct way
00:31:27.920 Of going about this
00:31:29.120 Without making it secret
00:31:29.980 Second wife
00:31:30.380 Because to me
00:31:31.060 From my point of view
00:31:31.840 It seems like
00:31:32.480 None of the men
00:31:33.320 Want to make it secret
00:31:34.760 But the pressure
00:31:36.020 Outside pressures
00:31:37.000 From our wives
00:31:38.020 And God knows
00:31:38.840 What other elements
00:31:39.820 Is causing men
00:31:41.080 To be like
00:31:41.780 You know what
00:31:42.060 I have to go the secret way
00:31:42.880 For me
00:31:43.760 I agree
00:31:44.800 Polygamy is permissible
00:31:47.080 A man doesn't need to
00:31:49.140 You know
00:31:49.680 I can't go away from
00:31:51.060 Al-Islam
00:31:51.960 He doesn't need to tell me
00:31:54.180 Okay
00:31:54.620 But
00:31:55.320 Aside from Al-Islam
00:31:58.220 I think
00:31:59.600 My integrity
00:32:01.260 My dignity
00:32:03.300 My
00:32:04.640 You know
00:32:05.920 Who I am as a person
00:32:07.400 I would think
00:32:09.020 It's so disrespectful
00:32:10.580 For my husband
00:32:12.260 To go
00:32:13.380 And marry somebody else
00:32:15.140 Secretly
00:32:16.180 Without
00:32:16.680 Giving me
00:32:17.820 The knowledge
00:32:18.540 What about openly?
00:32:19.700 No okay wait
00:32:20.440 Can he come openly?
00:32:21.380 Before openly
00:32:22.720 If he
00:32:23.880 If we're talking about
00:32:25.100 Secret second wife
00:32:26.720 If my husband
00:32:27.920 Has gone
00:32:28.640 Behind my back
00:32:29.840 That to me
00:32:31.040 Is cheating
00:32:31.800 Even if it is
00:32:33.160 Islamically correct
00:32:34.560 However
00:32:35.220 Wait hold on
00:32:36.580 If he
00:32:37.960 Was to come to me
00:32:39.420 Prior
00:32:40.160 To
00:32:41.140 You know
00:32:42.060 Prior to
00:32:42.900 Him doing this
00:32:44.160 And having that
00:32:45.200 Conversation with me
00:32:46.260 Which
00:32:46.540 We've already
00:32:47.300 Openly discussed this
00:32:48.620 I want a second wife
00:32:50.800 Genuinely
00:32:51.480 What would you do?
00:32:52.000 We would have a conversation
00:32:53.060 I'm not
00:32:53.640 Sorry
00:32:54.160 I'm not
00:32:55.380 Somebody who's
00:32:56.420 Not understanding
00:32:57.520 However
00:32:58.380 At least
00:32:59.400 He gave me
00:33:00.220 An option
00:33:01.040 First
00:33:02.160 And he's given me
00:33:03.240 A right in a way
00:33:04.380 So I can make
00:33:05.940 An informed decision
00:33:06.960 For myself
00:33:07.840 I understand
00:33:08.160 Let's go back to
00:33:09.100 What you said before
00:33:09.760 Aside Islam
00:33:10.700 Dignity
00:33:11.120 Respect
00:33:11.440 Aside Islam
00:33:14.120 You don't have
00:33:15.080 Any of those things
00:33:15.600 Anyway
00:33:15.860 Dignity or respect
00:33:16.760 I know
00:33:17.180 I agree
00:33:17.620 So
00:33:17.780 This idea of
00:33:19.980 Aside Islam
00:33:20.580 We're Muslims
00:33:21.120 There is no
00:33:21.800 Aside Islam
00:33:22.240 In this discussion
00:33:22.840 If I was speaking
00:33:23.440 To an atheist
00:33:23.920 As I do
00:33:24.420 We can bring in
00:33:25.300 Liberalism and feminism
00:33:26.040 But I'm speaking
00:33:26.480 To a Muslim
00:33:26.900 So there is no
00:33:27.960 Aside Islam here
00:33:28.780 That's the first thing
00:33:29.720 Okay but you said
00:33:30.520 Lying is not okay
00:33:32.020 But is okay
00:33:33.340 For husband to lie
00:33:34.860 If he's lying
00:33:36.100 To me every night
00:33:36.940 We'll let you speak
00:33:38.020 Sorry
00:33:38.300 We'll let you speak
00:33:39.320 So let me just
00:33:39.820 Come back to the second point
00:33:40.860 You mentioned
00:33:41.120 You said it's cheating
00:33:41.800 You said it's cheating
00:33:43.560 Cheating is a word
00:33:45.100 It's a construct
00:33:45.700 In the English language
00:33:46.520 Which means infidelity
00:33:47.600 Usually for the most part
00:33:48.640 Right
00:33:48.840 Infidelity
00:33:49.840 For us
00:33:51.140 It means someone
00:33:51.840 Has done something
00:33:53.140 Which is one of the
00:33:54.620 Kaba'ir min adhroob
00:33:56.360 Major sins
00:33:57.060 Major sins of Islam
00:33:58.020 We cannot equate something
00:33:59.920 Which is mubash
00:34:00.700 Which is that
00:34:01.900 Sharia has not even
00:34:03.080 Put a sin on it
00:34:04.120 With something
00:34:05.160 Which is kabira min adhroob
00:34:06.520 Which means now
00:34:07.700 You're going back to
00:34:08.400 The true religion
00:34:09.520 Which I'm now expected
00:34:11.220 As a Muslim man to follow
00:34:12.100 It's not the religion of
00:34:13.140 Al-Islam
00:34:13.720 It's the religion of
00:34:14.700 Women's feelings
00:34:15.560 I'm not going to follow that religion
00:34:16.900 With respect to you
00:34:18.100 I'm not going to do
00:34:19.140 Prestoration to the
00:34:20.500 Collective hormonal
00:34:21.740 And emotional status
00:34:23.000 Of men or women
00:34:23.720 Or children
00:34:24.080 Or anybody else
00:34:24.720 I'm not going to do this
00:34:25.680 So I'm saying now
00:34:26.680 We go back to the book
00:34:27.480 And the sunnah
00:34:28.080 The question is
00:34:29.820 What exactly are we objecting to
00:34:32.720 I'm saying that
00:34:33.660 At the end of the day
00:34:34.300 Everyone here has agreed
00:34:35.440 That this is not
00:34:37.220 What Sharia wants
00:34:38.180 It's not the best case scenario
00:34:39.920 It's not the default situation
00:34:41.440 In fact
00:34:42.960 What Ali said at the end
00:34:44.220 There was a very good point
00:34:45.040 Because let's say for example
00:34:46.240 A woman withholds from the man
00:34:47.560 Section
00:34:48.400 In Islam
00:34:49.620 This is a kabira min al-kabar
00:34:50.720 It's one of the major sins of Islam
00:34:52.740 One of the heavy sins
00:34:54.520 La'na is put on it
00:34:55.580 It's not like
00:34:56.300 The angels
00:34:57.080 The angels
00:34:58.480 If the woman withholds from the man
00:35:00.240 That the angels will continue cursing
00:35:02.120 Until he works out
00:35:03.180 Now
00:35:03.900 If a woman is doing this to a man
00:35:06.200 Wallahi uqsun billah
00:35:08.040 And you know
00:35:08.660 This is my advice
00:35:09.600 This is controversial
00:35:11.080 My advice to the brother
00:35:12.440 Is to get married again
00:35:13.960 Now I'm saying that
00:35:15.260 He can either do it secretly
00:35:16.360 Without her knowledge
00:35:17.240 Or not secretly
00:35:18.440 If he knows that
00:35:19.480 She would withhold the kids from him
00:35:20.760 Use the state
00:35:21.420 Then do it without her knowledge
00:35:22.660 But I believe that's a form of abuse
00:35:24.280 When a woman
00:35:24.900 Is withholding
00:35:26.100 Just because she wants to withhold
00:35:27.440 I just want to say something
00:35:28.580 Sister
00:35:29.140 I've come across so many women
00:35:31.200 That you know
00:35:32.400 Because we're from in Pakistan
00:35:34.620 The men come in here
00:35:36.320 Because when they get married over there
00:35:38.380 They bring the men here
00:35:39.660 And they abuse him
00:35:40.800 They abuse him bad
00:35:42.200 You know what I mean
00:35:42.960 They don't let him
00:35:43.640 To do anything
00:35:44.380 They work
00:35:44.820 They take the money off them
00:35:45.940 You know
00:35:46.460 They give him nothing
00:35:47.220 You know what I mean
00:35:47.820 So the thing is
00:35:48.740 What they do
00:35:49.240 They have a secret marriage
00:35:50.600 But the way their women look at it
00:35:52.980 They're rather the man
00:35:54.420 She
00:35:54.820 Thank you
00:35:55.480 Than to get married
00:35:57.420 You know what I mean
00:35:58.000 So the thing is
00:35:58.920 They say
00:35:59.780 Commit zina
00:36:01.000 But be with your wife
00:36:02.080 You know what I mean
00:36:02.680 And this is the time we live in
00:36:04.260 You know what I mean
00:36:04.800 I agree some women
00:36:05.780 Have that mentality
00:36:06.900 No no no some women
00:36:07.620 Sister
00:36:08.100 I believe some women
00:36:09.240 Have that mentality
00:36:09.960 But
00:36:10.500 Can we go to Sister Suad
00:36:11.600 For a second
00:36:12.020 The solution is
00:36:13.240 Men need to stop being cowards
00:36:14.880 And speak to the wife
00:36:16.460 First
00:36:16.760 And tell them
00:36:17.460 One second
00:36:18.180 One second
00:36:18.400 One second
00:36:18.640 Sister Suad
00:36:19.200 I disagree with that
00:36:20.820 Before we go to Sister Suad
00:36:22.560 If your husband came to Sister Amira
00:36:24.420 May Allah bless you and your husband
00:36:25.520 And preserve your marriage
00:36:26.380 And protect you guys
00:36:28.600 You're saying if he's man enough
00:36:30.200 If your husband came to you man enough
00:36:31.680 And said to you
00:36:32.220 He wants a second wife
00:36:33.020 At least then it's not secret
00:36:34.360 I knew about it
00:36:34.960 One second
00:36:35.080 One second
00:36:35.960 It's again a bit selfish
00:36:38.660 Because you're like
00:36:39.080 I just want to know about it
00:36:40.040 Okay you know about it
00:36:40.840 What are you going to do
00:36:42.080 Are you going to say to me
00:36:42.620 Yeah you can
00:36:42.920 Thank you
00:36:43.600 We will talk about it
00:36:47.060 I think that's what we need to do
00:36:49.660 Like when you're a married couple
00:36:52.000 Every problem you have
00:36:53.720 You discuss it
00:36:55.440 So this is again
00:36:56.220 For us as women
00:36:57.060 It's a problem
00:36:57.840 And for him it's a problem
00:36:59.160 So if we sit down
00:37:00.500 And we talk about it
00:37:01.600 And I take my selfish knees out of it
00:37:04.060 I.e. me wanting him all to myself
00:37:06.780 I need to understand
00:37:07.740 That there's more
00:37:09.040 That's how Allah has made them
00:37:10.700 And Allah has opened up
00:37:11.860 Up to four wives for them
00:37:13.440 So I need to sit down
00:37:14.520 And I need to really think about
00:37:16.000 How this is going to affect him
00:37:17.940 It could lead him into doing zinna
00:37:20.400 It could lead him to do haram stuff
00:37:21.920 And I really need to understand
00:37:23.580 Do I want that for my husband
00:37:25.440 Again we need to be in a relationship
00:37:28.700 Where we're both empathetic towards each other
00:37:30.880 If we expect our husbands to understand
00:37:33.220 Oh I'm really moody because I'm on my
00:37:35.400 Oh you know I'm pregnant so I'm feeling
00:37:38.040 So if we want them to understand us
00:37:40.500 Why is it us as women
00:37:42.220 Can't return the favour and understand them
00:37:44.560 Thank you
00:37:45.280 And we're going to go to Sister Soul
00:37:46.720 She wants to ask a question
00:37:47.820 Can we get the cameras to Sister Soul inshallah
00:37:49.520 May Allah bless Sister Soul
00:37:51.640 She's one of the sisters
00:37:52.680 Who have an amazing contribution to our podcast
00:37:54.540 I disagree with some stuff she says
00:37:56.540 But I still invite her to the show
00:37:57.680 Can I do something to say
00:37:59.080 Yes it's a song
00:38:00.280 One of the things that no one is mentioning
00:38:04.120 Is the fact that alhamdulillah
00:38:05.560 We've made the point that
00:38:06.720 When obviously husbands are being denied this hack
00:38:10.480 And women are starting to threaten with the kids
00:38:12.960 And that
00:38:13.440 And they are very maybe in a situation
00:38:16.660 We get that shara'an
00:38:18.700 Like the brother Mohammed says
00:38:19.960 It's allowed
00:38:21.600 But no one is talking about
00:38:22.840 The fact that brothers are using
00:38:24.740 To treat wives
00:38:26.320 And abusing those situations
00:38:27.640 Because sometimes they are cowards
00:38:29.520 Sometimes they don't want the trouble
00:38:31.080 They don't want the wife to annoy them
00:38:32.940 Rather than going
00:38:33.900 Convincing them
00:38:34.940 Being the man
00:38:35.940 Making sure they are the right protector
00:38:37.820 Provider
00:38:38.520 Showing the wife
00:38:39.560 They are able to take care of two families
00:38:41.800 They would rather
00:38:43.220 Let's just be honest
00:38:44.280 Pay no rent
00:38:45.660 And grab a second wife
00:38:46.940 Good good
00:38:48.720 Okay good good
00:38:49.500 I'm going to come to it
00:38:50.680 One second
00:38:50.880 I'm going to come to it
00:38:51.640 I'm going to come to it
00:38:52.460 Just a quick thing yeah
00:38:53.420 But I'm going to
00:38:54.600 You know who I'm going to blame
00:38:55.680 In this very instance
00:38:56.440 I'm going to blame the sisters
00:38:57.520 Because
00:38:58.180 I'm so sorry
00:38:59.360 Not everybody yeah
00:39:00.220 That
00:39:00.840 There was a statement that was made
00:39:02.300 I saw on Instagram
00:39:02.820 It said when a woman is divorced
00:39:04.640 She's not divorced
00:39:05.860 She's divorced by her husband
00:39:07.160 Not divorced by the ummah
00:39:08.620 And when I said the sister was like
00:39:09.840 Yeah so true
00:39:11.180 And I was like
00:39:12.060 Yeah sister
00:39:12.820 You know you
00:39:13.300 Would you share your husband
00:39:14.080 Oh what happened
00:39:15.220 Your face
00:39:15.560 You start crying
00:39:16.160 What happened she's not divorced by the ummah
00:39:17.580 Are you not a part of the ummah
00:39:18.580 So the question is this
00:39:19.900 Sisters are self-sabotaging
00:39:21.300 The other sisters
00:39:21.900 Feminist sisters
00:39:23.000 Who love their sisters
00:39:23.820 Who will die for their sisters
00:39:24.960 Who take a bullet for their sisters
00:39:26.300 But will not share their husbands
00:39:27.360 For their sisters
00:39:27.940 So the point is this
00:39:29.400 You know let me be real yeah
00:39:30.280 If you love your
00:39:31.080 If you've got a good husband
00:39:31.940 By the way
00:39:32.420 I'm not talking about these guys
00:39:33.380 Who don't pray
00:39:33.800 Jahil clowns yeah
00:39:35.040 Who don't pray
00:39:35.720 Who oppress their wives
00:39:36.600 A good man who practices
00:39:37.880 Who fears Allah
00:39:38.580 Who's good to his wife
00:39:39.340 Takes care of his wife
00:39:40.220 He comes and he says
00:39:41.460 I want a second wife
00:39:42.500 All hell breaks loose
00:39:44.180 And then we blame this man
00:39:45.420 Yeah but why are you keeping it secret
00:39:46.920 What else should he do
00:39:48.000 Dawood
00:39:48.600 Can I make a point
00:39:49.480 Sorry just on that
00:39:50.580 Before I lose it
00:39:51.880 So
00:39:52.800 As Muslim men
00:39:54.740 We understand
00:39:56.220 The khayrah
00:39:57.260 That the woman has
00:39:58.300 Yeah
00:39:58.680 We know that the best of us
00:40:00.560 Women
00:40:01.000 Broke plates
00:40:02.520 Like you mentioned
00:40:03.640 Ali
00:40:04.060 These were a few hadiths
00:40:04.840 So
00:40:04.980 Yeah a few hadiths
00:40:06.480 But we understand that
00:40:08.040 It wasn't a constant thing
00:40:09.820 No but we
00:40:10.460 We understand that
00:40:11.660 This was
00:40:12.100 This is a painful thing
00:40:13.560 And men
00:40:14.440 You guys understand it more
00:40:15.980 That it may hurt the wife
00:40:17.960 Okay
00:40:18.620 So
00:40:19.440 You know that
00:40:20.500 The reaction is always
00:40:21.700 Going to be tough
00:40:22.600 So this is why we say
00:40:24.860 It's cowardice
00:40:26.380 And cowardly
00:40:28.260 When a man
00:40:29.160 Sorry to cut your name
00:40:30.120 Why do we need to bring names into it
00:40:31.700 Why do we have to call it cowardly
00:40:32.120 Because it is
00:40:33.060 It's cowardly
00:40:34.240 When a man
00:40:34.960 Doesn't go to his wife
00:40:36.900 To tell her
00:40:37.540 Because he's afraid
00:40:38.660 Of that reaction
00:40:39.940 She's just afraid
00:40:41.600 Of the reaction
00:40:44.200 He's just afraid of the reaction
00:40:44.500 Allah is telling us
00:41:01.080 What the Prophet S.A.W. did
00:41:01.920 Yeah
00:41:02.220 The Prophet S.A.W.
00:41:05.600 This is in the Quran
00:41:06.320 You're reading it
00:41:06.860 You're going to read it in Ramadan
00:41:07.480 He hid
00:41:09.220 He done sir
00:41:10.200 Which means
00:41:11.000 He hid information
00:41:12.240 From part of his wives
00:41:13.720 And told other parts of his wives
00:41:14.960 Now
00:41:15.720 He told even
00:41:16.660 He went to those wives
00:41:17.560 That he hid the information
00:41:19.040 He said
00:41:19.280 Do not tell these other wives
00:41:20.680 Do you see what's happening here
00:41:22.360 Now
00:41:23.140 Let me make it even more controversial
00:41:24.680 Some
00:41:25.900 Yeah
00:41:26.200 Some people in tafsir
00:41:27.580 Yeah
00:41:28.440 There's two
00:41:29.020 Riwayas
00:41:29.760 What is this talking about
00:41:31.160 You might know
00:41:32.140 The honey story
00:41:32.960 Yeah
00:41:33.180 The honey story
00:41:34.100 When Aisha
00:41:34.620 Radhaan
00:41:35.020 Hafsa
00:41:35.440 They conspired
00:41:36.860 This is the most famous opinion
00:41:38.460 Opinion of Ibn Kathir
00:41:39.680 But there's another opinion
00:41:41.120 Which is that actually
00:41:41.980 The Prophet S.A.W. took
00:41:42.980 Maria al-Qibdiyya
00:41:43.840 He took her to the bed of Hafsa
00:41:45.720 And he had intercourse with her
00:41:47.780 On her night
00:41:48.800 In her house
00:41:50.020 And then this is what
00:41:51.860 The Prophet S.A.W. told her
00:41:52.800 Don't tell the other ones
00:41:54.620 I can understand the logic
00:41:58.420 Is the Prophet S.A.W. a coward
00:42:00.540 No
00:42:01.060 If the Prophet S.A.W. is a coward
00:42:03.040 It's not a coward
00:42:03.860 In that case
00:42:05.960 We're saying that
00:42:06.740 To hide information
00:42:08.520 From some of the wives
00:42:09.560 Is not cowards
00:42:10.940 If you accuse this
00:42:12.640 If you want to use this word
00:42:14.220 Cowardice
00:42:14.700 To describe
00:42:15.400 Hiding information
00:42:16.620 From some of the wives
00:42:17.480 Then you'll be implicating
00:42:18.640 The Prophet S.A.W. number one
00:42:19.520 No
00:42:19.880 Number two
00:42:21.660 Let me just finish
00:42:22.420 I'm not saying you're
00:42:23.380 I'm just saying
00:42:24.820 This is the implication
00:42:25.920 I say that this is the bait
00:42:27.820 That a stupid man will take
00:42:29.660 When
00:42:31.160 For example
00:42:32.280 His wife is already
00:42:34.220 Threatening him
00:42:34.860 Blackmailing him
00:42:35.900 And doing this kind of thing
00:42:36.600 He knows
00:42:37.480 That the state
00:42:38.700 Has got her backing
00:42:40.100 In those situations
00:42:41.520 Where you can see her claws
00:42:42.580 And her malice
00:42:43.140 For her to call you a coward
00:42:44.740 And stuff like that
00:42:45.360 I would say to the brothers
00:42:46.440 That want to do
00:42:47.460 Polygamy
00:42:48.160 And not let the first wife
00:42:49.260 Do never fall for that bait
00:42:50.540 Ever
00:42:50.800 So in fact
00:42:52.560 There is a hikmah
00:42:54.620 There is a hikmah
00:42:55.900 In not telling your spouse
00:42:57.000 Something sometimes
00:42:57.740 I understand that
00:42:58.840 I understand the logic
00:43:00.200 Because I'm a logical thinker
00:43:01.540 Having said that
00:43:02.100 I'm not saying that
00:43:02.680 This is the rule
00:43:03.260 I'm still telling you
00:43:04.760 That this is the exception
00:43:05.460 But it's the exception
00:43:06.840 For whom
00:43:07.320 Because we're living in an age
00:43:09.320 Where there is a
00:43:10.400 Pandemic now
00:43:11.380 Of women using
00:43:12.480 Their children
00:43:13.380 Weaponising them
00:43:14.240 Against their husbands
00:43:15.340 Saying you can never
00:43:16.240 See your children again
00:43:17.080 You will never be able
00:43:17.900 To see them again
00:43:18.400 And it happens
00:43:19.000 We've seen them
00:43:19.920 Some of them commit suicide
00:43:21.040 Some of them
00:43:21.740 We had them on the show
00:43:22.360 One was about to cry
00:43:23.420 So many of them
00:43:25.120 It's becoming too much
00:43:26.000 So I'm saying that
00:43:27.040 Instead of doing
00:43:27.820 Domestic violence
00:43:28.700 Instead of doing things
00:43:29.880 Which will get you
00:43:30.640 A record in this country
00:43:32.260 Ruining your life
00:43:33.320 Do this
00:43:34.180 This for me
00:43:35.260 I believe that
00:43:35.800 This is a better option
00:43:36.820 Yeah
00:43:37.500 Than going into
00:43:38.600 All these things
00:43:39.180 Which the woman
00:43:39.700 Is going to put you
00:43:40.140 In the prison
00:43:40.520 Because she has so much
00:43:42.020 That particular woman
00:43:44.340 Which in my opinion
00:43:45.340 Is the minority of women
00:43:46.260 Majority of Muslim
00:43:47.240 Thank you
00:43:47.860 Thank you
00:43:48.580 I believe it's
00:43:49.480 Minority of women
00:43:50.080 If it's 5% of them
00:43:51.500 Or 10
00:43:51.820 I don't know how many of them
00:43:52.600 But they're willing
00:43:53.580 To go down
00:43:54.120 There is a minority of women
00:43:55.000 Minority of minority of women
00:43:56.080 But for those women
00:43:57.460 This should apply
00:43:58.340 Or at least it's an option
00:43:59.500 For the man
00:43:59.900 I disagree
00:44:00.700 I wouldn't say
00:44:01.580 It's majority of women
00:44:02.460 I wouldn't say
00:44:02.800 It's minority of women
00:44:03.520 It's just a thing of
00:44:04.880 The moment you come to your wife
00:44:06.200 And say I want a second wife
00:44:07.160 Then you will realise
00:44:08.060 If that minority
00:44:09.320 Is a majority
00:44:09.880 Yeah
00:44:11.520 I'm going to go to
00:44:12.240 Sister Suad
00:44:12.760 Just a few disclaimers here
00:44:14.340 When we're talking about
00:44:15.680 This topic
00:44:16.040 Some people come and say to me
00:44:16.820 Bruv why are you so obsessed
00:44:17.720 People come to me and go
00:44:18.500 Bruv Ali
00:44:18.780 Why are you so obsessed
00:44:19.260 With this polygamy thing
00:44:19.960 Yeah
00:44:20.120 Okay
00:44:20.540 Even my wife says
00:44:21.220 Why are you so obsessed with it
00:44:22.180 Yeah
00:44:22.300 The reason I say is
00:44:23.840 Wallahi billahi
00:44:24.980 Wattillahi
00:44:25.380 Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
00:44:26.060 Is my witness
00:44:26.460 Yeah
00:44:26.640 Okay
00:44:26.960 The reason I say is bro
00:44:28.600 I hear stories
00:44:29.800 This is breaking the family unit
00:44:31.600 There are men
00:44:32.420 Like you said bro
00:44:33.200 And I'll call them cowards
00:44:34.420 Who would rather make their wife happy
00:44:36.600 At the displeasure of Allah
00:44:38.160 Yeah
00:44:38.760 A coward
00:44:39.480 The biggest coward ever
00:44:40.580 That would go and commit zina
00:44:42.140 Adultery
00:44:43.140 At the cost of my wife
00:44:44.700 You are the biggest simp ever
00:44:46.220 With a capital S
00:44:47.100 Yeah
00:44:47.660 Especially if you have the option
00:44:49.260 To marry
00:44:49.880 Exactly
00:44:50.500 And the thing is
00:44:51.220 You fear your wife so much
00:44:52.420 So the reason I'm talking about this
00:44:53.780 Is because I see family units
00:44:55.300 Breaking down
00:44:56.380 Wallahi billahi wattillahi
00:44:58.540 This is the reason why
00:44:59.700 I'm doing this show
00:45:00.440 Yeah
00:45:00.620 Yes as a man
00:45:01.320 You might be like
00:45:01.780 Yeah because you're a man
00:45:02.680 You want
00:45:02.940 Wallahi
00:45:03.580 The reason I do is
00:45:04.680 Because I see the breakdown
00:45:05.700 Of the family unit
00:45:06.760 And why
00:45:07.500 Because men
00:45:08.060 Like our dear sister said
00:45:09.060 Your wife
00:45:09.520 May Allah bless her
00:45:10.180 Why would
00:45:11.160 Would a man really want that
00:45:12.740 You need to understand our sister
00:45:14.620 If we understand each other better
00:45:16.540 Our biology
00:45:17.180 The way we think
00:45:18.000 Psychology
00:45:18.560 Marriages will improve
00:45:20.220 Sister Swad
00:45:21.320 And just following off
00:45:22.460 What you said
00:45:23.120 I think that's the very
00:45:24.300 A good point that you just made
00:45:26.240 Us understanding each other's
00:45:27.540 Biology
00:45:28.060 And when
00:45:30.020 So you know
00:45:30.740 You were saying about
00:45:31.640 He's a coward
00:45:32.840 For coming at you
00:45:35.220 And saying that he wants
00:45:35.880 A second wife
00:45:36.440 I don't know
00:45:36.960 I said he's a coward
00:45:38.540 If he doesn't come to me
00:45:40.780 As a wife
00:45:42.440 I think that is very cowardly
00:45:43.800 But this is the thing
00:45:44.460 This is the logical thinking
00:45:46.160 In a man's head
00:45:48.420 He's weighing up
00:45:49.620 The pros and cons
00:45:50.700 He knows you as his wife
00:45:52.200 He knows how you are going to react to that
00:45:54.880 Based on other conversations you had
00:45:57.020 So I don't think it's cowardice for him
00:45:59.620 To say
00:46:00.080 Actually it's not worth me
00:46:01.840 Having this headache
00:46:02.720 It's not worth me
00:46:03.700 Blowing up my family
00:46:04.820 And for men
00:46:05.800 It's a lot worse
00:46:06.900 You know
00:46:07.180 If you guys were to get divorced
00:46:08.820 And you know
00:46:09.280 I'm not saying it for you
00:46:10.280 But if a man or woman
00:46:12.760 Were to get divorced
00:46:14.320 It's more
00:46:15.620 The man that has to
00:46:17.420 That the courts come heavily down on
00:46:21.020 50%
00:46:22.080 But isn't it more of a task
00:46:24.500 To be lying to your wife
00:46:26.620 Who you're with
00:46:27.380 One second
00:46:27.720 One second
00:46:28.200 One second
00:46:29.600 Sister Swaz
00:46:30.180 But why is he doing it
00:46:31.200 One second
00:46:31.700 Sister Swaz
00:46:32.300 Still got
00:46:32.760 She's got 30 seconds
00:46:33.560 And the reason why he's doing it
00:46:35.580 Is because he doesn't feel confident
00:46:37.220 In us as women
00:46:39.000 To be able to have a
00:46:40.240 Logical conversation
00:46:41.580 We're very emotional
00:46:42.600 So instantly
00:46:43.540 We hear second wife
00:46:44.540 And me included
00:46:45.560 Our jealousy goes straight through the roof
00:46:47.460 We don't want to hear anything else
00:46:49.140 You've got to say
00:46:49.840 Whereas he's sitting there
00:46:51.300 With a logical mind
00:46:52.300 So then you've got two
00:46:53.300 Illogical minds if you like
00:46:55.100 Because I'm emotional
00:46:55.980 And he's just like
00:46:56.640 Look
00:46:56.860 It's from A to B
00:46:58.640 And I'm going
00:46:59.480 You know
00:46:59.800 Well what about C, D, E
00:47:00.900 And you know
00:47:01.280 Going round the circles
00:47:02.300 And that's where the problem comes
00:47:04.040 So he's thinking
00:47:04.680 Rather than dealing with this headache
00:47:06.640 Let me just go do what I want to do
00:47:08.460 And that's where we have to take
00:47:09.760 Accountability
00:47:10.380 As women
00:47:11.640 Like we have to be accountable
00:47:13.460 For our husbands
00:47:14.840 Having to lie to us
00:47:16.440 Because we can't have that
00:47:17.820 Logical conversation
00:47:18.980 With them
00:47:19.200 So it should be a case by case
00:47:21.020 But also as a mother
00:47:22.300 Like I feel like
00:47:23.860 Yes your husband has his
00:47:26.540 His needs
00:47:27.300 And his wants
00:47:27.840 And his desires
00:47:28.480 And you might not be fulfilling that
00:47:30.100 But I would expect my husband
00:47:31.740 To put my children
00:47:32.840 Before all of that
00:47:35.480 Personally
00:47:36.300 But sister
00:47:36.940 But my dear sister
00:47:39.040 One second
00:47:39.380 Okay we're going to go to
00:47:40.040 But my dear sister
00:47:40.820 What you said
00:47:41.180 May Allah bless you
00:47:41.740 Preserve you
00:47:42.220 Thanks for coming
00:47:43.860 But look at what
00:47:45.060 Imagine
00:47:45.620 Imagine a man
00:47:46.960 Imagine your husband
00:47:47.700 Coming and saying
00:47:48.320 That you have a hormonal need
00:47:50.280 Whatever it may be
00:47:50.980 And he's like
00:47:52.140 You need to put me
00:47:53.440 The kids above
00:47:54.380 And you're like
00:47:54.860 I can't help it
00:47:56.620 And you're like
00:47:57.180 No but if you have
00:47:57.940 So what I'm saying
00:47:58.640 Is just so you can understand
00:47:59.580 Is better my dear sister
00:48:00.760 Is that
00:48:01.500 If he said that
00:48:02.780 Wallahi
00:48:03.300 The feminist would be
00:48:04.040 In his house
00:48:04.480 With stones
00:48:04.900 Rocking
00:48:05.260 Yeah
00:48:06.520 So the thing is
00:48:07.520 I understand where you're
00:48:08.260 Coming from
00:48:08.660 100%
00:48:09.280 I hear you out
00:48:10.100 But
00:48:10.820 We are created in a way
00:48:12.520 Where we are being
00:48:13.520 Attacked with something
00:48:14.360 That is in our body
00:48:15.320 That we cannot help
00:48:16.560 But
00:48:17.740 Okay we're going to go to Ta'ud
00:48:19.680 Then sister Ira
00:48:20.320 Wants to ask a question
00:48:20.980 There
00:48:21.440 No no
00:48:21.980 She pressed the buzzer
00:48:22.880 She pressed the buzzer
00:48:23.680 Sister Tahira
00:48:24.880 You've got one and a half minutes gone
00:48:27.720 I think
00:48:28.280 Definitely as women
00:48:29.840 Muslim women
00:48:30.500 In living in the west
00:48:32.120 We need to
00:48:33.140 Take that
00:48:34.660 Ownership on
00:48:35.660 Like
00:48:36.140 Sister
00:48:36.980 At the end said
00:48:37.740 That if your husband
00:48:38.980 Is worried to speak to you
00:48:40.520 Then
00:48:41.100 You know
00:48:41.720 Over this matter
00:48:42.460 Then number one
00:48:43.320 There's
00:48:43.560 You know
00:48:43.940 Something quite deep
00:48:44.760 Between your relationship
00:48:46.060 Where if something
00:48:47.320 Deeply disturbs you
00:48:48.540 As a spouse
00:48:49.180 You should be able to seek
00:48:50.300 Counsel in your husband
00:48:51.440 And vice versa
00:48:52.200 Now if you've overreacted
00:48:54.600 In other things
00:48:55.560 You know
00:48:56.320 It could be something
00:48:57.060 He's
00:48:57.840 I don't know
00:48:58.460 His eyes
00:48:59.060 Gazed away
00:48:59.960 You know
00:49:00.380 Momentarily
00:49:00.960 And you picked that up
00:49:01.880 And you threw a big
00:49:02.640 You know
00:49:03.260 A fuss about it
00:49:04.120 There's no way
00:49:05.080 He's going to feel
00:49:05.640 Comfortable enough
00:49:06.340 To come and speak to you
00:49:07.300 About that
00:49:07.580 So I definitely think
00:49:08.540 As women
00:49:08.920 We need to take that
00:49:09.820 Responsibility on
00:49:11.140 That if our husband
00:49:12.180 They're not
00:49:13.120 They don't feel comfortable
00:49:13.840 Enough to talk to us
00:49:14.780 Then it's something
00:49:15.620 About our approach
00:49:16.740 And how
00:49:17.240 We've handled
00:49:18.400 You know
00:49:19.600 Situations
00:49:20.700 Or scenarios
00:49:21.840 Around that case
00:49:22.760 I think another thing
00:49:24.220 Really really important
00:49:25.300 Is if a sister
00:49:27.100 My advice would be
00:49:27.940 To all sisters
00:49:28.440 That if you find yourself
00:49:29.360 In a position
00:49:29.900 Where your husband
00:49:31.260 Has expressed
00:49:31.980 30 seconds
00:49:32.560 That he
00:49:33.200 He wants to get married again
00:49:34.700 And you know
00:49:35.920 Not necessarily
00:49:36.600 Seeking your permission
00:49:37.700 But more of an
00:49:38.760 Informed
00:49:40.200 You know
00:49:40.680 Informing you
00:49:41.480 That it's something
00:49:42.740 You have to
00:49:43.720 You know
00:49:45.100 Reflect on yourself
00:49:46.220 And prepare yourself
00:49:47.320 Exactly
00:49:47.620 And reflect on yourself
00:49:49.100 All these years
00:49:50.420 I have enjoyed
00:49:51.400 A blessed marriage
00:49:52.220 And that
00:49:52.640 You know
00:49:53.300 I'm one to one
00:49:53.980 With my husband
00:49:54.620 But now my reality
00:49:55.600 Is going to be different
00:49:56.280 I'm going to be tested
00:49:57.020 On my emotions
00:49:58.280 On my jealousy
00:49:59.120 On my connections
00:50:00.460 With Allah
00:50:01.000 On how I react
00:50:01.940 To scenarios
00:50:02.600 So it's a personal journey
00:50:04.240 That the woman
00:50:04.800 Needs to consciously
00:50:05.760 Embark in
00:50:06.540 And feel like
00:50:07.520 This is a test
00:50:08.380 To see how
00:50:08.940 Allah is testing her
00:50:10.040 To see how she responds
00:50:11.000 If she decides
00:50:12.520 To do the opposite
00:50:13.280 Which is
00:50:13.840 You know
00:50:14.800 Throw the divorce card
00:50:16.740 Or throw this card
00:50:17.720 Then ultimately
00:50:18.800 She's falling into
00:50:19.780 The act of disobedience
00:50:20.680 Thank you
00:50:21.120 But look how productive
00:50:22.840 It is
00:50:23.060 We're trying to understand
00:50:23.680 Each other
00:50:23.940 We're trying to learn
00:50:24.440 No one's blaming
00:50:24.960 No one else
00:50:25.400 We're just trying to
00:50:26.040 Understand each other
00:50:26.600 Better
00:50:26.800 So
00:50:27.480 As hearing
00:50:29.800 The sisters
00:50:30.580 What they said
00:50:31.140 Right now
00:50:31.640 It's quite a contrast
00:50:32.920 Because at the beginning
00:50:33.700 They were like
00:50:34.100 Over my dad buddy
00:50:34.960 So
00:50:35.360 I still stand
00:50:37.560 I'm just saying
00:50:39.680 I feel like I'm the only one
00:50:41.340 I feel like I'm less
00:50:42.520 The only one
00:50:43.340 Who's like
00:50:43.800 Do not even think about it
00:50:45.520 I'm just saying
00:50:46.160 In response
00:50:46.600 That's what the person said
00:50:47.320 I'd rather love
00:50:48.220 I'd rather love
00:50:49.240 My first
00:50:50.240 Yeah
00:50:50.600 Oh
00:50:51.680 Look
00:50:52.040 It's like the sense
00:50:53.280 Of what I'm about to say
00:50:54.120 The sense of what I'm about to say
00:50:55.760 So in response
00:50:56.700 Because there was a lot of like
00:50:57.820 A very long monologue
00:50:59.080 That was given here
00:50:59.840 And I'm sure the husbands
00:51:00.700 Are watching this
00:51:01.380 So
00:51:02.100 In a way
00:51:03.220 You're giving ammunition
00:51:04.000 To your husbands
00:51:04.740 Because they're hearing you out
00:51:06.000 But
00:51:06.180 But what I'm trying to say
00:51:07.640 I totally agree
00:51:08.520 With what the sisters are saying
00:51:09.300 By the way
00:51:09.720 So like
00:51:11.500 There's an attempt right now
00:51:12.960 Sort of like
00:51:13.820 There's this guy called
00:51:15.040 Destin
00:51:15.420 That's this guy
00:51:16.660 YouTuber
00:51:17.280 And
00:51:18.220 He's known to be
00:51:19.740 Like a debater
00:51:20.420 Whatever
00:51:20.740 And like
00:51:21.860 There is like
00:51:22.780 An attempt right now
00:51:23.860 Like in the western world
00:51:24.960 To like normalize
00:51:26.060 Open relationships
00:51:27.360 Where like
00:51:29.040 So
00:51:29.740 For those who don't know
00:51:30.840 What that is
00:51:31.240 It's like
00:51:31.780 Where
00:51:32.220 Female
00:51:33.100 And the husband
00:51:34.140 Both are
00:51:35.640 In agreement
00:51:37.360 To
00:51:37.880 Have
00:51:38.780 Sexual
00:51:39.280 Relationships
00:51:40.060 Outside
00:51:41.020 Their marriages
00:51:42.540 So there's an attempt
00:51:43.640 To normalize this
00:51:44.520 And you see that
00:51:45.360 A lot of like
00:51:45.880 Even the non-Muslims
00:51:46.780 Are like
00:51:47.120 Not down with that
00:51:48.240 What I'm trying to say
00:51:49.700 Is that
00:51:50.040 I think
00:51:50.540 If you look at places
00:51:51.800 Like Yemen
00:51:52.300 I saw this video
00:51:53.100 It's funny
00:51:53.560 There's this guy
00:51:54.220 He's on a compound
00:51:55.040 And there's this white guy
00:51:56.400 Next to him
00:51:56.940 And he goes like
00:51:57.500 How many wives do you have?
00:51:58.680 And he goes like
00:51:59.100 I don't know
00:51:59.740 He had
00:52:00.220 Loose of women
00:52:00.880 There is an opinion
00:52:06.260 That says you can have
00:52:06.980 Nine wives
00:52:07.580 And this is the opinion
00:52:08.540 Of Ibn Hazm
00:52:09.240 Yeah let's go
00:52:09.980 Let's go to it
00:52:10.880 After
00:52:11.100 In response
00:52:14.140 Very strong opinion
00:52:15.140 Honestly
00:52:15.800 I'm not saying
00:52:16.900 It's the right one
00:52:17.380 I believe in four
00:52:18.160 But he says
00:52:19.100 Methna
00:52:19.380 I believe in four as well
00:52:20.500 Because he said
00:52:21.100 Methna two
00:52:21.760 Add three
00:52:22.440 Add four
00:52:23.040 And also
00:52:24.720 He's nine
00:52:25.220 And then if you add
00:52:25.980 If you add
00:52:26.880 The fact that
00:52:27.400 The prophet has had
00:52:28.780 Nine at the same time
00:52:29.520 Yeah
00:52:29.740 Exactly
00:52:30.700 And we're just
00:52:31.400 To touch upon
00:52:31.980 We're just going to say something
00:52:33.160 And by the way
00:52:33.760 Isn't it interesting
00:52:35.100 The ayah in the Quran
00:52:35.960 Starts with
00:52:36.680 Marrying twos
00:52:37.880 Threes and fours
00:52:39.240 And the scholars say
00:52:40.260 That the fact that
00:52:41.080 Allah started with two
00:52:41.860 Not one
00:52:42.280 Because it says
00:52:42.780 Marrying twos
00:52:43.340 Threes and fours
00:52:44.120 If you can't be
00:52:45.220 Just marry one
00:52:45.900 Meaning
00:52:46.180 The default position
00:52:47.200 Is every man
00:52:47.720 Should have two wives
00:52:48.420 And when he's like
00:52:49.200 Nah this is too much for me
00:52:50.380 Then have another wife
00:52:51.180 But one wife
00:52:51.820 Yeah
00:52:52.500 So the guy responds
00:52:53.780 And laughs at him
00:52:54.600 He's like
00:52:55.000 How many wives do you have?
00:52:55.880 He goes like
00:52:56.140 I have one
00:52:56.600 And he starts laughing
00:52:57.580 Please come to my janitor
00:52:58.480 Guys
00:52:58.760 He's on a compound
00:52:59.680 And his wives
00:53:00.340 Are all seeing this
00:53:01.140 So what I'm trying to say
00:53:02.220 Is I think it's a cultural thing
00:53:04.020 Because and I said this
00:53:05.140 Before last time
00:53:05.980 In the African American community
00:53:07.880 Amongst the Muslims
00:53:08.860 It seems to be
00:53:10.400 That polygyny
00:53:11.620 Is more accepted
00:53:12.680 And this is something
00:53:13.800 They discuss
00:53:14.420 And this is something
00:53:15.040 It's a reality
00:53:15.820 Because of the
00:53:17.340 The equation
00:53:19.440 In terms of
00:53:20.080 The amount of men
00:53:21.180 Being in prison
00:53:22.000 And the amount of men
00:53:22.780 The ratio between men
00:53:24.160 The amount of men
00:53:24.640 Who are homosexuals
00:53:25.660 Also
00:53:26.000 In Atlanta
00:53:26.720 And places like that
00:53:27.540 So the females
00:53:28.280 Over there
00:53:28.880 Are
00:53:29.260 Accustomed more
00:53:31.840 To reality
00:53:33.040 And therefore
00:53:33.980 They are more
00:53:34.740 Happy to share husbands
00:53:36.200 And I think
00:53:37.520 So it's not
00:53:38.500 Necessary to do
00:53:39.460 With
00:53:39.660 You know
00:53:40.100 We like to say a lot
00:53:41.080 The nature of the female
00:53:42.240 The nature
00:53:42.620 Like human can adapt
00:53:44.240 You know
00:53:44.500 Like we can adapt
00:53:45.840 There are always
00:53:46.540 Going to be certain things
00:53:47.400 About us
00:53:48.260 That are hardwired
00:53:50.040 You're right
00:53:50.620 But like
00:53:51.200 We can adapt
00:53:52.120 Like we can
00:53:52.920 Have a society
00:53:54.200 What this is
00:53:55.300 We're saying
00:53:55.660 Husbands and wives
00:53:57.120 Can have conversations
00:53:58.100 About this
00:53:58.680 Myself and my wife
00:54:00.240 We had these discussions
00:54:01.500 Before
00:54:02.000 And you know what
00:54:03.240 Because my wife
00:54:04.040 She always gave me
00:54:05.380 The
00:54:05.700 Sort of the feeling
00:54:07.580 That I could be
00:54:08.600 Open with her
00:54:09.320 I told her
00:54:10.880 At one point
00:54:12.000 That
00:54:12.240 Look babe
00:54:13.500 There's the sister
00:54:14.720 Is that you yeah
00:54:16.460 I'm possibly
00:54:17.040 Dawood
00:54:17.820 Dawood
00:54:18.240 May Allah bless you
00:54:20.260 Oh Karen
00:54:20.780 Sorry
00:54:21.600 I was like
00:54:22.520 There's possibly
00:54:23.040 A sister
00:54:23.200 That was going to
00:54:23.760 Call me off the show
00:54:24.300 Bro can you
00:54:25.300 Can you blur my face please
00:54:26.340 There's possibly
00:54:28.120 A sister
00:54:28.600 This is early on
00:54:29.960 I did certain things wrong
00:54:32.240 Yeah
00:54:32.420 Granted
00:54:33.100 Sorry babes
00:54:33.900 But
00:54:34.440 I did tell her
00:54:36.240 I did tell her
00:54:37.760 Right
00:54:38.080 May Allah bless you bro
00:54:39.520 It's an honourable man
00:54:40.220 Who's done in an honourable way
00:54:41.120 Come on
00:54:41.560 The only reason
00:54:42.380 Why I told her
00:54:43.180 Was because
00:54:43.720 She gave me the feeling
00:54:45.200 That I could talk to her
00:54:46.360 About it
00:54:46.820 Do you know what I mean
00:54:47.660 But then
00:54:48.440 But yeah
00:54:49.340 Okay
00:54:50.280 Because of you Ali
00:54:51.580 Sorry Ali
00:54:52.800 Because of you
00:54:53.520 Sister Ira
00:54:53.980 I actually had this conversation
00:54:55.840 With my husband
00:54:56.040 Okay good good
00:54:56.660 Check this out
00:54:57.100 Check this out
00:54:57.600 Check this out
00:54:58.320 So sister Amira
00:54:59.240 Had this conversation
00:54:59.960 With her husband
00:55:00.500 Because of me
00:55:01.600 How did it go
00:55:02.140 So
00:55:02.720 Can we zoom in please
00:55:04.000 To the sister
00:55:04.300 I'm a very open person
00:55:05.920 Yeah
00:55:06.280 And for me
00:55:07.960 My integrity matters the most
00:55:10.020 Because at the end of the day
00:55:11.580 If we based our relationship
00:55:13.300 On trust and honesty
00:55:14.560 And just
00:55:15.620 You know
00:55:16.560 Like we're friends
00:55:17.580 You know
00:55:17.940 We're friends before
00:55:18.780 We're husband and wife
00:55:20.460 I would feel so hurt
00:55:22.680 If my husband
00:55:23.660 Couldn't talk to me
00:55:24.800 And go
00:55:25.900 And marry
00:55:26.640 Somebody else
00:55:27.480 Behind my back
00:55:28.200 And then
00:55:28.860 Now it's leaking
00:55:30.000 Into lying to me
00:55:31.200 On a day to day basis
00:55:32.620 Going to meet
00:55:33.820 Some next chick
00:55:34.620 I don't even know
00:55:35.460 Did he
00:55:36.340 Did he
00:55:36.920 Did she test
00:55:38.020 Because let's
00:55:39.180 Let's face it
00:55:40.020 A lot of men
00:55:41.140 Marry women
00:55:41.800 Without even getting
00:55:42.700 Certain tests
00:55:43.640 True true true
00:55:44.160 And then if he brings me
00:55:45.480 Some disease back
00:55:46.540 True
00:55:46.860 Then it will be
00:55:47.940 His janazah for real
00:55:49.440 Literally
00:55:50.200 And we'll do
00:55:50.860 The janazah over him
00:55:51.640 So what did you
00:55:52.600 Okay
00:55:52.960 Sister Amira
00:55:53.760 May Allah bless you
00:55:54.440 And by the way
00:55:54.860 Sister Amira
00:55:55.380 Just because there's
00:55:56.720 Some jahid people
00:55:57.980 She's not wearing
00:55:59.040 A hijab properly
00:55:59.700 She actually doesn't
00:56:01.080 Wear hijab
00:56:01.580 And she's trying to
00:56:02.500 So for those
00:56:03.500 People
00:56:04.240 Some jahids
00:56:05.160 Yeah she's actually
00:56:06.120 She comes to the show
00:56:06.740 And wears it
00:56:07.120 And so does
00:56:07.820 Our dear
00:56:08.340 I actually wear it now
00:56:10.020 Exactly
00:56:10.600 May Allah bless you
00:56:11.360 Inshallah
00:56:11.600 I preserve you
00:56:12.160 So the thing is
00:56:13.980 For those people
00:56:14.800 Who are toxic
00:56:15.420 And talking about
00:56:16.520 This nonsense
00:56:16.980 Just to give a disclaimer
00:56:18.260 Please control your tongues
00:56:19.540 So anyways
00:56:20.680 You had a discussion
00:56:21.360 With your husband
00:56:22.100 Yes
00:56:22.520 I want to know
00:56:23.220 What did he say
00:56:23.940 Well we
00:56:25.280 I literally had
00:56:26.500 An open discussion
00:56:28.100 And maybe
00:56:28.820 You know
00:56:30.000 He'll come on one day
00:56:31.080 We definitely
00:56:31.520 So I need to meet him
00:56:32.240 And I just said
00:56:34.880 You know
00:56:35.220 Would you want to get
00:56:36.980 A second wife
00:56:37.960 Like
00:56:38.380 And for him
00:56:39.880 He said no
00:56:40.580 He said no
00:56:41.200 Please bring him here
00:56:41.800 He said no
00:56:42.680 Please I beg you
00:56:43.560 Bring him here
00:56:44.140 He said no
00:56:45.200 Bring him here
00:56:45.700 But you have to
00:56:46.280 Bear in mind
00:56:47.140 I am five wives
00:56:48.800 In one human being
00:56:49.980 Sorry sister
00:56:50.900 You know
00:56:51.360 I'm even nine wives
00:56:52.920 At this point
00:56:53.640 Sister
00:56:54.020 You know what
00:56:55.280 I want you to do
00:56:55.700 I want you to bring
00:56:56.320 Your husband here
00:56:56.940 He literally will not
00:56:58.620 Let anybody say no
00:56:59.760 Sister
00:57:00.240 I'm telling you
00:57:01.000 Bring your husband here
00:57:01.920 I'm telling you
00:57:02.960 Give me three and a half minutes
00:57:04.100 But I ended up
00:57:05.740 Coming
00:57:06.240 I ended up saying to him
00:57:08.020 Like look
00:57:08.600 If you did ever
00:57:10.380 Change your mind
00:57:11.300 And for whatever reason
00:57:12.980 His mind has already decided
00:57:13.920 He's just saying that to you
00:57:14.340 For whatever reason
00:57:15.040 You wanted to actually
00:57:16.140 Get married again
00:57:17.220 Yeah
00:57:17.560 Have that discussion
00:57:18.860 With me openly
00:57:19.900 Because
00:57:20.500 Although it might hurt me
00:57:22.960 Although it might be
00:57:23.940 Something
00:57:24.340 That
00:57:25.260 I'm not in favour of
00:57:27.120 Yeah
00:57:27.300 I would see why
00:57:29.300 I would understand
00:57:30.080 And obviously go back
00:57:31.160 To the deen
00:57:31.760 And understand that
00:57:33.260 Sister
00:57:33.580 May Allah bless you
00:57:34.580 We're going to go sister
00:57:34.960 At one time
00:57:35.280 I'm going to come
00:57:35.620 May Allah bless you
00:57:36.480 And by the way guys
00:57:37.140 Jokes aside yeah
00:57:37.840 This is a serious matter yeah
00:57:39.200 The prophet peace be upon him
00:57:40.060 Said that a man
00:57:41.100 Who has two wives
00:57:42.360 And he favours one over the other
00:57:43.640 Will come on the day of judgement
00:57:44.620 Leaning his body
00:57:45.560 Will be leaning on one side
00:57:46.760 We joke around here
00:57:47.920 This and there
00:57:48.320 But it's not a joking matter
00:57:49.280 It's a serious matter
00:57:50.020 It involves another woman
00:57:51.000 It involves her emotions
00:57:52.160 There's so many factors
00:57:53.560 I'm not here to say pro or against
00:57:55.020 All I want to do in this show
00:57:56.600 Is so we understand
00:57:57.960 Just understand us
00:57:58.920 Wallahi just understand us
00:58:00.240 The way we understand you
00:58:01.120 That's all we're saying
00:58:01.780 I'm not saying to anybody
00:58:02.580 Go and get married again
00:58:03.760 Etc
00:58:04.080 Because there's consequences
00:58:05.600 Like you said
00:58:06.040 Even hijab
00:58:06.480 He said he doesn't recommend it
00:58:07.780 Because it can be detrimental
00:58:09.160 No man
00:58:10.320 Who does this
00:58:10.960 By the way to the sisters
00:58:11.820 Wakes up and says
00:58:12.960 I'm going to ruin my wife's
00:58:14.340 Life right now
00:58:15.280 And make her suffer
00:58:16.440 No man does that
00:58:17.460 Wallahi believe us
00:58:18.380 We are created in a way
00:58:19.860 Where sometimes
00:58:20.960 It can be peak
00:58:22.000 And it should be done
00:58:22.720 In the correct way
00:58:23.500 That's why Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
00:58:24.680 Sent these protocols in place
00:58:26.880 Because men like to do it
00:58:28.380 In a way without responsibilities
00:58:29.720 Let me get what I want
00:58:30.920 No no no no no
00:58:32.060 Brother
00:58:32.740 That's why I tell the sisters
00:58:33.800 If he's going to do it
00:58:34.540 You tell him
00:58:34.960 You marry that woman
00:58:35.960 You give her maher
00:58:36.940 You do all of that stuff
00:58:38.700 You know what he's going to say
00:58:39.380 No I ain't got time for that
00:58:40.600 Let's go to Sister Aira
00:58:41.540 And then we're going to come to
00:58:42.660 The brothers
00:58:43.240 And we're going to wrap up
00:58:44.200 We need to wrap up
00:58:44.820 Sister Aira
00:58:45.400 One second sister
00:58:48.820 One second sister
00:58:49.380 Yep
00:58:50.860 Maybe she doesn't want to do it
00:58:52.060 No she does
00:58:52.540 She's on the show
00:58:53.020 Yeah yeah yeah
00:58:53.640 I know by any way
00:58:54.760 I'm supposed to make three
00:58:55.760 Brothers
00:58:57.620 But there's someone who's in this
00:59:03.080 Yes
00:59:06.180 Outward
00:59:07.560 I wouldn't mind
00:59:08.900 Because
00:59:09.260 Like where is
00:59:13.860 All of a sudden
00:59:14.480 Like how is
00:59:16.920 He extends from
00:59:17.340 Disappointment
00:59:17.920 Because of
00:59:19.540 Adjustments
00:59:21.180 Especially from
00:59:22.900 The women's side
00:59:23.860 Why can he not
00:59:25.700 Yes
00:59:27.500 He has crunched his desire
00:59:28.780 I can hear what I want to say
00:59:30.800 When
00:59:31.300 Men
00:59:32.460 Wipe in space
00:59:33.240 And we want love
00:59:34.440 Now that
00:59:35.260 Now that
00:59:36.660 That love
00:59:37.420 Is going to be
00:59:38.300 Split
00:59:38.640 50-50
00:59:39.340 Let's just say
00:59:40.020 There's two wives
00:59:40.700 In this scenario
00:59:41.300 Right
00:59:41.660 He's out here
00:59:42.940 Investing
00:59:43.520 100% of herself
00:59:44.620 Mentally
00:59:45.420 Emotionally
00:59:46.180 Physically
00:59:46.760 But that's not
00:59:48.220 The children
00:59:48.660 The whole
00:59:49.200 Future
00:59:50.700 But he's only getting
00:59:51.940 50%
00:59:52.500 You know
00:59:53.820 Because he's only
00:59:54.720 Going to be spending
00:59:55.220 Half the time with her
00:59:56.380 Whether that is physically
00:59:57.780 Or whether that is emotionally
00:59:59.120 Quality
00:59:59.440 Promising
00:59:59.880 Not just that
01:00:01.060 But if a woman is acting out
01:00:02.800 Then
01:00:03.500 Then acting more psychotic
01:00:05.980 Now why
01:00:06.940 But
01:00:07.800 Something to say
01:00:09.300 Like
01:00:09.720 How men can't
01:00:11.300 Overwatch
01:00:11.860 Who has a past
01:00:14.500 Because
01:00:14.960 You know
01:00:15.400 It's not the same thing
01:00:17.460 It's not the same thing
01:00:17.960 I accept it
01:00:18.140 The woman's got a past
01:00:19.120 It's been out
01:00:19.620 From both of them
01:00:20.280 Much like that
01:00:21.760 I would imagine a woman
01:00:23.100 Would you find it
01:00:23.740 Very difficult
01:00:24.280 To expect
01:00:25.100 That her man
01:00:26.240 Will now have this woman
01:00:27.400 And it's not
01:00:28.040 Just
01:00:28.340 Something that happened
01:00:29.700 In the past
01:00:30.240 But rather
01:00:30.780 But sister
01:00:31.520 It's not
01:00:31.940 It's not about us though
01:00:33.360 It's
01:00:33.720 I'm so sorry
01:00:35.720 I'm so sorry
01:00:36.960 Wait wait
01:00:46.980 Let me
01:00:47.560 It is almost like that
01:00:48.920 Okay go on
01:00:49.660 So yes you're right
01:00:51.600 It's not about us
01:00:52.520 But it is
01:00:53.820 To some degree
01:00:54.480 It is about me
01:00:55.440 It's not 100% about me
01:00:57.200 I am just as much
01:00:58.560 In the relationship
01:00:59.260 As he is
01:01:00.140 He can't take me
01:01:01.160 Out of the equation
01:01:01.920 Not can you take out
01:01:02.580 My emotions
01:01:03.260 My well being
01:01:04.420 And the children's well being
01:01:05.620 Because if I'm not okay
01:01:06.680 In my mind
01:01:07.360 But that's on you
01:01:10.580 To work on
01:01:11.420 As a woman
01:01:12.080 You need to be able
01:01:13.380 To manage your own emotions
01:01:14.880 And that's what I was saying
01:01:16.760 Earlier on
01:01:17.220 When I said
01:01:17.580 Try and
01:01:18.080 No that's what I was saying
01:01:19.240 Earlier on
01:01:19.480 When I said
01:01:19.860 We need to try
01:01:20.700 And understand men better
01:01:21.660 They understand us very well
01:01:23.700 They know when
01:01:24.380 We're not feeling great
01:01:25.700 When there's certain things
01:01:26.560 Going on
01:01:26.960 But when they're coming to us
01:01:28.440 With an issue
01:01:29.480 That is very very sensitive
01:01:31.100 Rather than saying
01:01:31.840 Okay
01:01:32.180 Let me sit down
01:01:33.700 And see how
01:01:34.600 I can help
01:01:35.520 My husband
01:01:36.440 How I can
01:01:37.620 It is
01:01:38.460 This is how
01:01:39.440 Allah has met
01:01:40.200 No but
01:01:40.780 Let me finish
01:01:42.960 Let me finish
01:01:44.000 Let me finish
01:01:44.560 Let me finish
01:01:45.080 Hang on
01:01:46.200 Let me finish
01:01:46.580 It's a banish desire
01:01:48.120 Hang on
01:01:49.020 It's a banish desire
01:01:49.940 One second
01:01:50.380 One second
01:01:51.360 Let me land
01:01:51.720 Let me land
01:01:52.260 Let me land
01:01:52.280 Let me land
01:01:53.120 Hang on
01:01:54.120 So this is about
01:01:56.020 Us trying to help
01:01:58.080 Them with their
01:01:58.800 This is something
01:01:59.340 That Allah has
01:02:00.020 Ingrained into them
01:02:01.320 It's
01:02:01.520 They can't help it
01:02:03.120 It's like being born
01:02:03.920 With one hand
01:02:04.620 They can't help it
01:02:05.820 Exactly
01:02:07.140 So then we need
01:02:08.380 To work together
01:02:09.440 Look I'm not
01:02:10.700 I'm the same
01:02:11.540 I'm going to say to you
01:02:12.380 I would not want my husband
01:02:13.600 To have a
01:02:14.120 Second wife
01:02:15.460 Okay good
01:02:16.140 So you're causing
01:02:18.400 Oppression
01:02:19.080 No no no
01:02:20.440 One second
01:02:21.020 No but that's not
01:02:22.380 Oppression
01:02:22.460 No guys guys
01:02:23.140 This is something
01:02:24.440 That Allah has made
01:02:25.520 In them
01:02:26.000 Why do we not
01:02:26.560 Understand that
01:02:27.060 Guys hello
01:02:27.520 Sorry
01:02:27.940 Please
01:02:28.600 Guys guys
01:02:30.700 One second please
01:02:31.420 One second
01:02:31.860 There's a few things
01:02:32.440 That was touched upon
01:02:33.240 I want to come to
01:02:33.820 We're going to
01:02:34.480 We're going to wrap up
01:02:34.980 Inshallah
01:02:35.320 Okay
01:02:35.620 Yes
01:02:36.900 So what I'm saying
01:02:37.680 Is in a nutshell
01:02:38.220 Is that the man
01:02:39.420 Feels less loved
01:02:40.180 When the woman
01:02:40.820 Spends more time
01:02:41.600 With his kids
01:02:42.360 He's given 50%
01:02:43.100 Of the love
01:02:43.860 And there's
01:02:44.260 This is that show
01:02:45.080 That men feel
01:02:45.840 Deprived yeah
01:02:46.460 Now when it comes
01:02:47.300 To desire
01:02:47.900 What you're doing
01:02:49.000 Is you're equating
01:02:49.620 Desire
01:02:50.540 With you're saying
01:02:51.360 Mine is marriage
01:02:52.160 But yours is just desire
01:02:53.060 It's like me
01:02:54.200 Belittling
01:02:54.700 What you're going through
01:02:55.660 What if I came and said
01:02:56.420 For example
01:02:56.920 That you're going
01:02:58.340 Through menopause
01:02:58.940 And your period
01:03:00.180 And when you're pregnant
01:03:01.380 As well
01:03:01.740 When the woman is pregnant
01:03:02.440 Sorry
01:03:03.420 We've been learning here
01:03:05.060 It's hard to have intimacy
01:03:06.460 Okay
01:03:07.060 So can the man
01:03:07.980 Come and say
01:03:08.300 Hold on a second
01:03:08.760 I am being deprived
01:03:09.920 And there are studies
01:03:10.540 That show
01:03:10.960 A man's sexual drive
01:03:12.920 There is no comparison
01:03:14.940 So this is the reason
01:03:16.220 Why we say
01:03:16.840 Biologically
01:03:17.920 When I had that discussion
01:03:18.700 With that toxic feminist
01:03:19.700 Girl
01:03:20.020 Yeah
01:03:20.780 You guys are vulnerable
01:03:22.500 In an altercation
01:03:23.560 When it comes to a man
01:03:24.980 You are biologically weaker
01:03:26.240 That is your most vulnerable
01:03:27.800 State you're in
01:03:28.660 You require a man
01:03:30.020 To be there
01:03:30.560 To protect you
01:03:31.400 A man's most vulnerable
01:03:32.900 State is when it comes
01:03:33.940 To intimacy
01:03:34.540 And when a man
01:03:35.600 Is deprived of that
01:03:36.480 You are also saying
01:03:37.360 On top of that
01:03:38.620 You are not allowed
01:03:39.520 To get married again
01:03:40.160 You have to shut up
01:03:41.320 And go through
01:03:42.640 Whatever I'm going through
01:03:43.440 And put up with it
01:03:44.160 So it's unfair
01:03:45.380 Just on the points
01:03:47.040 You said you wanted
01:03:47.580 Guidance and clarification
01:03:49.060 But it did seem
01:03:51.160 A bit like a polemic
01:03:52.020 But I would say
01:03:52.700 That the first
01:03:53.240 And second points
01:03:54.040 That you made anyway
01:03:55.180 Had assumptions of it
01:03:56.880 Of a liberal
01:03:57.420 And feministic kind
01:03:58.540 Undoubtedly
01:03:59.420 The first one was
01:04:00.860 You were talking about
01:04:02.320 Well these are the desires
01:04:03.880 Of men
01:04:04.340 And these are the desires
01:04:05.240 Of women
01:04:05.520 Who says that we are
01:04:06.920 Living our lives
01:04:07.580 On the hedonistic principle
01:04:08.540 Who says that we are
01:04:09.620 Living our lives
01:04:10.220 That the pain
01:04:10.780 And pleasure threshold
01:04:11.980 Is what we
01:04:12.520 We base morality on
01:04:14.220 This is not what we
01:04:15.200 Despite the fact
01:04:17.040 That sometimes
01:04:18.420 We can feel bad
01:04:19.180 About something
01:04:19.660 That could be good for you
01:04:20.500 The Quran says that
01:04:21.080 Very clearly
01:04:21.480 I mean we don't believe
01:04:23.220 That just because
01:04:23.780 Something can feel bad
01:04:24.720 To an individual
01:04:25.360 Man, woman or child
01:04:26.640 That that thing
01:04:27.080 Becomes bad itself
01:04:27.980 So this idea
01:04:29.340 Remember
01:04:29.840 Islam has a
01:04:30.860 Communitarian ethic
01:04:31.680 At the end of the day
01:04:32.740 It's not about
01:04:33.620 What's good for
01:04:34.180 The individual actors
01:04:35.160 It's about what's good
01:04:36.100 For the collective
01:04:36.820 Number one
01:04:37.820 Number two is
01:04:39.000 Not just that
01:04:39.760 It's about what's good
01:04:40.620 That Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
01:04:41.900 Wants us to worship in
01:04:42.940 For example
01:04:43.620 Military warfare
01:04:44.560 That military warfare
01:04:48.900 Has been prescribed
01:04:49.560 Upon you
01:04:49.980 And it's something
01:04:50.460 Disliked by you
01:04:52.040 You can hate something
01:04:55.900 And it's good for you
01:04:56.600 And you can love something
01:04:57.580 It's bad for you
01:04:58.300 So the first
01:04:59.080 The premise of the first question
01:05:00.340 Is completely falsified
01:05:02.040 In fact
01:05:02.440 It's almost as if
01:05:03.780 I'm speaking to
01:05:04.420 With respect
01:05:05.500 And not Muslim
01:05:06.160 It doesn't matter
01:05:06.540 Because I'll say to them
01:05:07.620 If I was speaking to them
01:05:08.320 Not Muslim
01:05:08.640 It doesn't matter
01:05:08.960 How do you prove
01:05:09.940 Your premise
01:05:10.400 That in fact
01:05:11.220 The egoistic
01:05:11.980 Individualistic
01:05:12.840 Liberal
01:05:13.620 Hedonistic principle
01:05:14.680 That you have
01:05:15.260 Is actually a true one
01:05:16.420 In the first place
01:05:16.940 To base morality
01:05:17.460 That's the first thing
01:05:18.400 The second thing
01:05:18.860 Is when you said that
01:05:19.580 Well she's putting in
01:05:20.680 This much in the relationship
01:05:21.660 And he's putting in this much
01:05:22.920 You've assumed equality
01:05:24.520 You've assumed equality
01:05:24.540 It's undoubtedly
01:05:25.440 You've assumed equality
01:05:26.340 And once again
01:05:27.440 That's feminism
01:05:27.980 Second wave feminism
01:05:28.840 You've imported that
01:05:30.300 Into the religious discourse
01:05:31.340 And then challenged us with it
01:05:33.360 Remember we're not
01:05:34.320 We don't agree with feminism
01:05:35.820 I don't believe that
01:05:36.980 Equality of value
01:05:38.380 Equals identicality of roles
01:05:40.220 I believe that there's
01:05:41.100 Equality of value
01:05:42.240 Between men and women
01:05:43.520 But that the roles are different
01:05:44.840 So even if
01:05:46.400 The man puts in
01:05:47.640 10%, 5%, 1%
01:05:49.580 Into a relationship
01:05:50.340 And she puts in 100%
01:05:52.000 That wouldn't indicate to me
01:05:53.740 There's injustice going on
01:05:54.720 Disparity or inequity
01:05:56.200 So for me
01:05:57.080 This is not the way
01:05:58.460 That the situation
01:05:59.200 Is being dealt with
01:06:00.080 So all of
01:06:01.020 In short therefore
01:06:02.160 I would say that
01:06:02.840 All of your questions
01:06:04.080 Seem to have an import
01:06:06.180 Of a post-enlightenment
01:06:07.480 Liberal
01:06:08.220 Colonial
01:06:09.220 White mankind
01:06:09.920 Which we don't need to have
01:06:11.700 When we're having these discussions
01:06:13.000 Between Muslims
01:06:13.760 In fact
01:06:14.540 You can see
01:06:16.460 The discussion so far
01:06:17.980 Has been from
01:06:18.480 At least a big section
01:06:20.080 Of today's
01:06:20.660 Has been Quran and Sunnah
01:06:22.100 Where we talk about
01:06:23.040 Quran, Sunnah, scholars
01:06:24.400 Quran, Sunnah
01:06:25.320 You're talking to me about
01:06:26.100 50% this
01:06:27.260 100% this
01:06:28.060 Feelings this
01:06:28.820 We're not following
01:06:29.840 The religion of feelings
01:06:30.700 As I said before
01:06:31.260 I'm not going to prostrate
01:06:32.160 Or bow down to anyone's feelings here
01:06:33.520 So in sum therefore
01:06:35.840 I think if we want to
01:06:37.160 Challenge a position
01:06:38.420 As Muslim people
01:06:39.380 We need to challenge
01:06:40.540 The Muslim people
01:06:41.740 With Islam
01:06:42.740 Not with something
01:06:44.060 Imported from outside
01:06:45.180 Or presuppositions
01:06:46.460 Which have a
01:06:47.160 Different kind of
01:06:48.500 Backdrop
01:06:49.200 So that's what I'll say to you
01:06:51.080 It's very important
01:06:51.540 That we get that right
01:06:52.140 May Allah bless you
01:06:52.740 Hijab
01:06:53.060 And also just to bear in mind
01:06:54.260 We're not saying that
01:06:55.280 And we're going to come to
01:06:56.100 Sister Ira
01:06:56.380 Because I think she did
01:06:56.900 Two more points
01:06:57.400 She's going to make it
01:06:57.880 We're going to probably
01:06:58.400 Wrap up with what she says
01:06:59.200 But just to touch up
01:07:00.680 On the thing
01:07:01.440 We're just trying to say
01:07:02.240 We're not saying that
01:07:03.520 We don't care about
01:07:04.280 Your emotions etc
01:07:05.180 We're just saying that
01:07:06.320 The Quran and Sunnah
01:07:07.060 Comes first
01:07:07.800 And also for example
01:07:09.260 Sister Ira also
01:07:10.340 Just to touch up on there
01:07:11.140 Is that if you think about it
01:07:12.460 As men
01:07:12.860 When a thief breaks the house
01:07:14.880 We have to go down
01:07:16.320 And we might not return back
01:07:17.440 When a war happens
01:07:18.420 Like it's happened in Ukraine
01:07:19.260 These trans women
01:07:20.740 Are told shut up
01:07:21.460 You're a man now
01:07:22.060 Come and join the war
01:07:23.040 Yeah
01:07:23.460 So when it comes to that
01:07:25.660 Can you imagine
01:07:26.160 We have to go
01:07:26.880 And I might be coming home
01:07:27.820 Just imagine as a man
01:07:28.840 The gheera that we have
01:07:30.060 For our wives
01:07:30.500 Imagine you're going to war
01:07:32.020 And you know
01:07:33.380 You might get
01:07:34.360 Well killed
01:07:35.580 You're not coming back
01:07:36.840 Your wife is getting married
01:07:38.240 To another man
01:07:39.020 Yeah
01:07:39.760 We don't come and say
01:07:40.840 Well hold on a second bruv
01:07:41.740 Why don't you go to war
01:07:42.640 I'll cook biryani
01:07:43.300 All day every day bruv
01:07:44.140 Curry
01:07:44.960 All the curries
01:07:45.780 I'll make delicious dishes yeah
01:07:46.800 You go to what
01:07:47.860 And I'll cook
01:07:48.300 No what would my wife say
01:07:49.800 You are the man
01:07:50.960 Ya Allah
01:07:51.720 You have to go
01:07:52.360 We as men don't
01:07:53.560 This is the point
01:07:54.540 We as men don't complain
01:07:55.800 We are ready to put
01:07:56.980 A neck on the line
01:07:57.660 For our family
01:07:58.260 Our deen
01:07:58.740 And go
01:07:59.600 And we don't talk about
01:08:00.760 Emotions and go
01:08:01.280 Well hold on a second
01:08:01.820 If I die
01:08:02.300 Someone's going to marry you
01:08:03.140 You're going to be
01:08:03.700 With someone else
01:08:04.280 But why is it that
01:08:05.580 When as men
01:08:06.360 We talk about our concerns
01:08:07.960 And what we go through
01:08:09.420 And our hormones
01:08:10.160 We are
01:08:10.820 Sean be quiet
01:08:11.700 And you're hurting me
01:08:12.780 But vice versa
01:08:14.120 It's not the same
01:08:15.540 Can I just say
01:08:16.220 Sorry
01:08:16.380 This is a western
01:08:17.940 Point of view
01:08:19.140 Because
01:08:19.520 Sorry
01:08:20.020 Like
01:08:21.140 In terms of polygamy
01:08:22.880 It is a western point of view
01:08:24.820 In Africa
01:08:25.540 Senegal
01:08:26.820 Ivory Coast
01:08:28.320 Nigeria
01:08:28.880 This is more normalised
01:08:30.380 So us
01:08:30.980 From a western gaze
01:08:32.900 It is more of a
01:08:34.340 Oh you know
01:08:35.100 Because we have been brought up
01:08:36.440 In a monogamous
01:08:38.060 Type of mindset
01:08:39.160 Romeo and Juliet
01:08:40.220 However
01:08:41.160 Most scholars
01:08:42.340 Do not recommend
01:08:43.820 Romeo and Juliet
01:08:44.500 And Stacey
01:08:44.780 For men
01:08:45.960 To have secret wives
01:08:48.300 Most scholars
01:08:49.380 Do say
01:08:50.140 Just tell the wife
01:08:51.600 Or make it known
01:08:52.700 Because of XYZ
01:08:54.660 That's all I want to say
01:08:55.740 You said you didn't finish your point
01:08:57.600 I don't want to cut you off
01:08:58.280 Context
01:08:58.700 Last point
01:09:01.140 So we're wrapping up
01:09:01.720 Wow wow wow
01:09:05.340 I knew there was a
01:09:07.580 I knew there was a plot twist
01:09:08.560 About jihad right
01:09:09.680 Yes yes
01:09:10.480 Should be refuted
01:09:12.060 When we go home
01:09:12.740 What do you have to say about that
01:09:14.900 Say that again
01:09:15.740 No say it again
01:09:17.220 Say it again
01:09:17.640 Just text me
01:09:18.580 Come back to me man
01:09:19.580 Women do jihad
01:09:20.640 Every time they give birth
01:09:21.840 Women do jihad
01:09:23.020 Every time they wear hijab
01:09:24.400 In the western world
01:09:25.440 It's jihad everyday
01:09:26.700 Right
01:09:27.300 For women
01:09:27.900 Hijabi women
01:09:29.780 This is a
01:09:30.100 This is a
01:09:31.160 Refutation to my wife
01:09:32.300 Can we get the cameras crossed please
01:09:33.660 And also she said that
01:09:35.340 You should go to fast
01:09:36.240 I'll be fasting with my new wife
01:09:38.780 Okay
01:09:41.800 Now okay look guys
01:09:42.820 Joss aside
01:09:43.580 Can we go back to the topic
01:09:44.940 Yes yes
01:09:45.800 Practicality
01:09:46.600 How does he work secret twice
01:09:48.260 Sorry
01:09:49.500 How are you a provider
01:09:50.740 How are you a carer
01:09:52.020 How are you fed
01:09:53.020 How are you a high value man
01:09:55.620 If you are lying
01:09:57.100 Hiding
01:09:57.800 And asking the second one
01:09:59.240 How can you accept
01:10:00.060 Okay
01:10:00.500 I just want to know the fact
01:10:02.020 Okay okay good
01:10:02.580 I think we discussed on that
01:10:03.580 No woman
01:10:04.240 Even if she accepts
01:10:05.560 And I can tell you
01:10:06.720 Because I know people
01:10:07.820 That have said that
01:10:08.720 Because they put themselves
01:10:10.220 Already in a really bad situation
01:10:12.220 In a fitness situation
01:10:13.500 Okay
01:10:14.080 Then get the camera on her
01:10:15.340 How does he work
01:10:16.480 Because
01:10:17.100 Because you know
01:10:18.100 In the beginning
01:10:18.660 Very often
01:10:19.360 Obviously they are in love
01:10:20.740 Maybe they have
01:10:21.380 Like feelings for the person
01:10:22.900 Yeah
01:10:23.280 Very often
01:10:23.800 They have put themselves
01:10:24.720 In a situation
01:10:25.860 That now makes the marriage
01:10:27.620 An obligation
01:10:28.420 Okay
01:10:29.460 Yes
01:10:30.220 Second
01:10:30.760 La ilahe
01:10:31.520 Sister
01:10:32.020 Have mercy on us
01:10:32.840 Please
01:10:33.040 Every woman
01:10:34.340 Is going to say
01:10:34.960 You know what
01:10:35.820 I take only one day a week
01:10:37.020 It's fine
01:10:37.480 As long as I have you
01:10:38.240 In my life
01:10:38.880 But it will never last
01:10:41.120 And we all know that
01:10:42.160 Because every woman
01:10:43.380 Will want to have
01:10:44.680 What the other one has
01:10:45.680 Okay
01:10:46.240 Okay
01:10:46.900 Okay
01:10:47.320 That's a while
01:10:47.900 No that's
01:10:48.340 That's fine
01:10:49.280 There is
01:10:50.300 We need to wrap up guys
01:10:51.160 And not only that
01:10:52.800 Not only that
01:10:53.160 We talked about this
01:10:53.840 In the other episode
01:10:54.420 Of polygamy
01:10:54.900 We discussed this
01:10:55.860 So today's topic
01:10:56.380 Is more about
01:10:56.780 Secret second wife
01:10:57.400 Polygamy
01:10:58.040 We discussed this
01:10:59.000 It's going to come out
01:10:59.560 Yes yes
01:11:02.180 Maybe we can have
01:11:03.000 Another discussion
01:11:03.640 On its own
01:11:04.140 Because it's a broad topic
01:11:04.820 And talking about
01:11:05.360 How we're standing up
01:11:06.000 I'm talking about
01:11:06.940 The practicality
01:11:07.740 I understand
01:11:09.940 What I'm saying is
01:11:10.920 Time is running out
01:11:14.060 Sister
01:11:14.340 Time is running out
01:11:15.160 Look we're nearly
01:11:16.080 Two hours
01:11:16.580 I know sister
01:11:17.960 But time is running out
01:11:18.680 Part two
01:11:19.780 To be continued
01:11:20.340 In a nutshell
01:11:21.540 Yes of course
01:11:22.880 Of course
01:11:23.540 Everyone is in a form
01:11:24.520 Of jihad
01:11:25.220 In the context of
01:11:26.100 You know
01:11:26.580 Like you said
01:11:26.940 A woman who's given birth
01:11:28.260 Yes
01:11:28.520 But what I'm trying to say
01:11:30.000 Is this year
01:11:30.500 Is that
01:11:31.160 In the context
01:11:32.080 What we're trying to say
01:11:32.720 Is that
01:11:33.000 A man
01:11:33.600 Who is
01:11:34.380 Look at it
01:11:34.820 Look
01:11:34.960 When your husband
01:11:36.260 Gets another wife
01:11:37.000 You're not dying
01:11:38.480 Like you're not going to die
01:11:39.420 You're not going to physically die
01:11:40.600 Number one
01:11:41.440 Number two
01:11:42.100 He's coming back home to you
01:11:43.060 Number two
01:11:43.580 He provides for you
01:11:44.220 He protects
01:11:44.620 The same man
01:11:45.180 He's coming back to you
01:11:45.940 When I go to war
01:11:47.040 And I die
01:11:47.640 I'm not coming back
01:11:48.660 I'm not coming back
01:11:50.940 So one second
01:11:51.640 One second
01:11:52.520 I'm not coming back
01:11:53.960 You're coming
01:11:54.440 You're coming back
01:11:55.300 I'm coming back home to you
01:11:56.320 But
01:11:56.820 When you're sharing me
01:11:58.280 It's another woman
01:11:59.460 But in the context
01:12:00.780 When I'm going to war
01:12:01.600 I ain't coming back
01:12:02.300 But I'm gone
01:12:02.760 You know what
01:12:03.300 That's why
01:12:03.980 I believe Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
01:12:05.700 Told us men about
01:12:06.940 Hur al-Ain by the way
01:12:07.980 If you guys know Hur al-Ain
01:12:08.820 That we're going to have in Jannah
01:12:09.940 InshaAllah
01:12:11.220 Yeah
01:12:13.100 So the Hur al-Ain
01:12:17.420 We're going to have
01:12:17.840 You know why
01:12:18.340 Because if you think about it
01:12:19.460 Guys
01:12:19.600 One second
01:12:20.080 We're finished there
01:12:20.940 Guys
01:12:21.680 Why
01:12:22.580 Guys
01:12:23.520 Why has Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
01:12:25.600 Told us men
01:12:26.520 About Hur al-Ain
01:12:27.540 And they are described
01:12:28.280 In a very very specific manner
01:12:30.280 Why
01:12:31.100 Because Allah created us
01:12:32.780 He knows our weaknesses
01:12:33.860 He knows what we want
01:12:34.700 We're a simple people
01:12:35.720 Why is it Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
01:12:37.140 Hasn't gone into details
01:12:37.920 What women are going to get
01:12:38.780 You know why
01:12:39.340 Because if Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
01:12:40.280 Said you're going to get
01:12:40.800 One palace and one bag
01:12:41.740 He will say
01:12:42.260 Oh but I want 10 palaces
01:12:43.100 So Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
01:12:44.280 Doesn't go into details
01:12:45.160 But when it comes to the man bro
01:12:46.400 Very simple
01:12:47.020 Hur al-Ain
01:12:47.460 Thank you all day
01:12:48.800 Every day brother
01:12:49.380 And that's why
01:12:50.380 You can wait until
01:12:51.100 That's why
01:12:51.460 That's what
01:12:51.860 Ali Ali Ali Ali
01:12:53.100 I just wanted to say
01:12:53.900 I wanted to say yeah
01:12:54.820 I think this is the problem
01:12:56.140 Can I just finish point
01:12:56.720 The way we discuss this thing
01:12:57.920 So what I'm saying is this
01:12:58.900 That's why
01:12:59.760 The incentive for a man
01:13:01.340 Who's going to war
01:13:02.120 Knowing he's going to die
01:13:03.020 And not come back to his wife
01:13:04.020 He has the incentive of
01:13:05.320 Hur al-Ain
01:13:06.220 Alhamdulillah
01:13:07.320 All day every day
01:13:08.040 Dawud with you
01:13:08.720 Yeah yeah yeah
01:13:09.460 Just a disclaimer
01:13:11.820 Very quickly a disclaimer
01:13:12.940 I agree with what
01:13:14.500 Hijab was saying
01:13:15.240 From an ideological point of view
01:13:16.980 I also agree with
01:13:19.220 What you were saying
01:13:19.820 About the intention behind it
01:13:21.140 But I feel like
01:13:21.640 This is the problem
01:13:22.400 The way we discuss this
01:13:23.720 Topic in the first place
01:13:25.400 To me as an outsider
01:13:27.000 Just listening to both sides
01:13:28.160 It seems a bit like
01:13:29.320 Tit for tat
01:13:30.160 Oh
01:13:30.440 And
01:13:31.660 No let's just understand each other
01:13:33.560 No no it's tit for tat
01:13:34.440 But it's not understanding
01:13:35.680 Because understanding
01:13:36.560 You know what
01:13:37.100 The sister
01:13:38.180 What the sister said
01:13:39.000 The way I would have responded
01:13:40.480 I would have said
01:13:41.040 Look sister
01:13:41.500 First of all
01:13:42.240 You said
01:13:43.500 It's about desire
01:13:44.800 Right
01:13:45.820 No no
01:13:46.500 She said it's about desire
01:13:47.460 Yeah yeah
01:13:47.620 She said
01:13:47.940 Yeah
01:13:48.220 And so what
01:13:49.560 Exactly
01:13:50.800 So what
01:13:51.440 It is about desire
01:13:52.500 Exactly
01:13:52.800 I'll be honest
01:13:53.360 Yes
01:13:53.620 If a man
01:13:54.420 Thank you Dawud
01:13:54.920 Thank you bro
01:13:55.520 If a man
01:13:56.180 If a man
01:13:56.200 If a man
01:13:58.000 Has desire
01:13:59.440 To fulfill that
01:14:00.960 And he wants to
01:14:02.720 Multiply in the land
01:14:04.120 Yeah
01:14:04.900 And he wants to
01:14:05.780 Build families
01:14:06.840 Because
01:14:07.200 We are Muslims
01:14:09.120 The moment the man
01:14:10.540 Gets married again
01:14:11.580 What he does is
01:14:12.820 He
01:14:13.020 Generates
01:14:15.160 He needs to generate
01:14:16.180 Extra energy
01:14:17.140 To fulfill
01:14:18.820 To be a father twice
01:14:20.220 To be a husband twice
01:14:21.360 To be a provider twice
01:14:22.600 So it's not that
01:14:24.380 The desire is
01:14:25.280 Something dirty
01:14:27.080 It's that
01:14:27.580 We're curtailing
01:14:28.760 Desire
01:14:29.600 In a way
01:14:30.960 That is pleasing to Allah
01:14:32.400 Thank you
01:14:32.780 May Allah bless you inshallah
01:14:33.660 Guys we need to wrap up
01:14:34.420 If you want part 2
01:14:35.040 Comment in the section below
01:14:35.900 Inshallah
01:14:36.240 May Allah bless our
01:14:37.220 Honourable sisters here
01:14:38.040 Our Honourable sisters there
01:14:39.140 Our Honourable brothers
01:14:39.880 All the way there
01:14:40.560 For having a part in this
01:14:42.440 Inshallah
01:14:42.760 And may Allah bless you guys
01:14:43.980 Till next time
01:14:44.440 If you want part 2
01:14:45.100 No problem
01:14:45.740 Comment in the section below
01:14:46.720 Till next time
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01:14:48.160 Assalamualaikum
01:14:49.060 Wa Rahmatullahi
01:14:49.800 Wa Barakatuh
01:14:50.440 The Prophet
01:14:51.360 Sallallahu al-Sallam said
01:14:52.380 Whoever builds a masjid
01:14:53.960 For the sake of Allah
01:14:54.700 Allah will build for him
01:14:57.240 A similar house
01:14:58.380 In Jannah
01:14:59.060 On that day
01:15:00.220 Where Allah
01:15:00.660 Tells us
01:15:01.840 That our books
01:15:02.580 Will be given
01:15:03.060 And every little
01:15:04.660 Atom weight
01:15:05.400 Of good deed
01:15:05.860 You've done
01:15:06.240 Will be there
01:15:07.100 And imagine
01:15:08.020 You see a mountain
01:15:09.080 And you're like
01:15:09.920 What a lucky person
01:15:10.940 Which righteous person
01:15:12.480 And Allah says
01:15:13.820 This is for you
01:15:14.580 For me?
01:15:15.600 Yes
01:15:15.980 What did I do?
01:15:17.680 You allow people to pray
01:15:19.120 You built a masjid
01:15:20.160 I never had the money
01:15:20.980 To build a masjid
01:15:21.560 Oh Allah
01:15:21.880 You helped
01:15:23.220 You gave towards it
01:15:24.440 And Allah gives you the reward
01:15:25.580 Of as if you've built it
01:15:26.920 Donate now guys
01:15:28.240 And do not delay
01:15:29.000 And share the video
01:15:30.200 For extra rewards
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01:15:34.860 Or as if you just Face
01:15:35.640 It's like
01:15:36.980 And have someone
01:15:37.600 And have some
01:15:38.260 Like some
01:15:38.880 what can
01:15:39.380 touch and
01:15:40.600 And have you
01:15:42.040 Can
01:15:42.400 It's
01:15:42.780 Like some
01:15:44.440 Of as if you're