Ali Dawah - February 20, 2024
WHY WOMAN CHEAT IN MARRIAGES? - EP 23 || BITTER TRUTH SHOW
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 13 minutes
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212.28384
Summary
In this episode, we discuss the topic of why men and women become disloyal. Why women cheat and why men cheat? What is the root cause of disloyalty in a relationship? Why does a woman cheat and what is the reason why a man cheats?
Transcript
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neglecting your wife if you neglect your wife and you give her not a lot of attention and the way
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she beautifies herself for you the way she cooks for you the way she respects you then she's going
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to go elsewhere yeah i've noticed that anytime a woman is caught it's your fault it's because of
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you rather than confiding in you as a husband she confines in her male colleague and says look i'm
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going through this i'm going through that and then he says oh it's okay i'm gonna be here for you
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that that is specifically that the the cheating process starts when she disconnects herself from
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her husband so there has to be an element of disconnect first it's not all the time this
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problem that other man is not uh taking all the boxes now sometimes he does take all the boxes but
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they still will find the problem to kind of do certain things to make excuses for the actions
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i called my wife up i said sir listen i've just finished with work i may or may not be taking
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you out but get your stuff ready anyway i had it even decided that's so inconsistent
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they need to know exactly i feel like i feel like they usually will seek out a man who is
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very kind and gentle and considerate and over like giving with no boundaries insecure man
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insecure man so they would seek that intentionally yes yes let me tell you why there's been a
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fundamental neglect of their feminine needs point but that is not an excuse to as a female to go out
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and treat your husband in such a way if you come from the pakistani background they don't really talk
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about anything like that what happens at home or if they'll get any problems why are you talking if
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they go to their family don't talk about your husband like that you know i mean to raise a
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concern in that area of the marriage would automatically make you feel as a man emasculated
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and therefore there's a fear to address it if you are asking me these questions if you are unsatisfied
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that must mean you've had prior experience wow and that was her first marriage so closing remarks
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assalamualaikum warahmatullahi barakatuh brothers and sisters and dear friends welcome to another episode
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of the bitter trip show inshallah hope you guys are well um i think it's been one year since we
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started the bitter trip show i think it was in december uh but brothers and sisters inshallah
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hope you hope this the show has benefited you guys uh we're trying to understand each other better
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uh of course we have evidence from the quran and sunnah sometimes we give our opinions as well there
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is nothing wrong with giving our opinions as long as it's permissible it's halal um which is important
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as well if you would like to be a panelist you can apply at the bitter truth show at gmail.com
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and we film usually once a month uh so if you want to apply you can um and before i start i want to
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praise allah subhanahu wa ta'ala the most most of the most just or praise his glory and gratitude
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should belong to him um and we're going to get straight into it today's topic is a little bit
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controversial but again this is very important for us to understand dynamics the inner works the
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hard wiring of both men and women when it comes to these matters uh only then i think these things
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will improve us because i think the biggest thing that we lack is men don't understand women and
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women don't understand men if we understand each other better we can get along uh inshallah in a much
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peaceful way so today's topic is quite controversial but it is the topic of why men and women become
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disloyal yeah so we want to know what causes a woman to go down the route of disloyalty what causes a man
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to go down the route of disloyalty and then again we need to define from a man's perspective what is
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disloyalty because in islam obviously a man is allowed to marry more than one wife so some may deem
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that to be disloyalty but in the in the sight of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala that man on the yama
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has nothing on him except if he has oppressed one wife over the other which one of the hadith of
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the prophet muhammad peace be upon him he said that man will come on their judgment reclining on
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one side because he favored one over the other it is a serious topic it's an important topic so yes
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let's start off with um why women because men it seems like men can be culprits in that sense where
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you know and we know from the hadith that the biggest fitna for a man or that hit bani israel was
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woman um and we know like you know um many instances in the quran and the sunnah that you
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know it is our biggest weakness we'll come into we'll come to that in a minute but let's start off
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with um should we start with the brothers why men are why women are disloyal or should we go to the
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sisters maybe from their perspective or let's go to the sisters okay so sisters so what leads a woman
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so in a nutshell obviously we as men we know ourselves we can talk about what leads a man but what would
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you say is the causes that leads and by the way just a quick disclaimer um this obviously is
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something that is haram it is something that is a major sin um in that sense where there's a capital
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punishment and we know what the capital punishment is i don't need to go into detail um and also um
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just something to touch upon there was a woman at the time of the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
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who came to the prophet muhammad peace be upon him and said that i committed this act and the
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prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam refused to accept it from her and just you know just ignored
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ignored until she was like look i've done this and then she said okay he said you are pregnant
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once you give birth come back so the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was trying to tell
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her look just repent in a nutshell you don't have to go through this she gave birth and she still
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came and she was she of the capital punishment applied to her which was stoning and she um once
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this happened some of the blood blood actually spluttered on one of the companion's feet and he
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kind of looked at in a despised way and the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said the repentance
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that she did now is sufficient enough for i think he said the whole of medina so we might look at
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that person and despise them and no in the sight of allah what she did was so it like something that
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to be praiseworthy that she went down that to be cleansed in this life that the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
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said her the repentance will be enough for medina yeah so these people people can fall into this we
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don't look down upon them we ask allah subhanahu alayhi wa sallam to rectify their faith but to know
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it's also a major major sin inshallah um so let's start off with let's start with sit the dopamine
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this is dopamine um what causes a woman to go down the route of thinking about disloyalty and also
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from a woman's perspective does disloyalty come just by argument say committing zina or is disloyalty
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for a woman starts emotionally i would say emotionally first um but in my personal opinion
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it's two reasons um one being neglect if you've got a loving caring wife and she's not a jinabel
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okay so the other ones she's just a shaytana she wants to do haram she's not in love with you
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but the first one is neglecting your wife if you neglect your wife and you give her not a lot of
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attention and you don't pay attention to her the way she beautifies herself for you the way she cooks
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for you the way she respects you then she's going to go elsewhere she's going to try to seek that from
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some other guy or some other outlet um and then the second one is she's just a jinabel and someone
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who's seeking to do she's a toxic female jinabel she wants to go and have illicit illegal relationships
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with other men and she doesn't love you because for a woman to do that in my opinion again if a woman
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cheats on a man like in a you know has intimate relationships with another man she doesn't love
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the man she's done it too sorry so the first puzzle of the day alhamdulillah i congratulate you
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may allah bless you inshallah so you have one and a half minutes i'm going to time you now nobody can
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interrupt him your time starts now okay um bismillah alhamdulillah salatu wassalam ala rasulillah
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it shouldn't take that long um before we begin um i think it's very i want to understand how you're
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defining the word uh dis disloyal what is emotional cheating and otherwise because um to be honest i
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i don't understand what you're talking about so okay okay what do you define as disloyal can you
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give us some demonstrate like what do you uh disloyal an emotional perspective can you what what is
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yeah tell us what's emotional disloyalty like tell us the stages a woman will take it can happen in
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different stages like for instance let's just take a woman who goes to work and her husband's like i
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said there's two reasons why a woman may step out of her marriage emotionally or physically and the
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first said if you neglect her rights okay which is giving her attention taking you know care of how
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you speak to her and how she looks when she beautifies herself you're not you're neglecting
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your wife so she'll then start to probably meet or speak to other guys she'll find an outlet
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she'll find an outlet i don't know what way but she'll probably start talking to another person
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through texting at work how does island college is there a specific protocol should i say they take
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like for example it starts with for example wanting attention from a co-worker and then from the
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is there a specific process woman take because for men i we can talk about that but what is it like
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it starts from emotional i wouldn't personally know because i've never cheated on someone yeah but
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but but let me just say if i was to be a in a situation like that remember what i said we're
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looking for the man to pay us attention if it's not paying us attention we can go to any outlet and try
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to seek that attention whether it's going online posting pictures going and and doing just like crazy
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stuff just to seek attention from another male because it's not happening at home so if the
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woman's at work like i said she could be getting attention from male um colleagues if she's in
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college a teacher a tutor whatever it may be but i don't know how it may start off but that's what
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i'm saying the outlets are there and if she's not getting their attention at home she's going to go
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and seek it elsewhere so okay so i hope that made sense um i i understand what you're saying um
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so when you say emotional cheating um i'm not i still don't know what that means per se but what
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you're saying is the act of cheating i didn't say emotional cheating by the way i don't i don't know
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where that came from in the sense bro for example like argument's sake she can be going and putting
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stuff on instagram yeah and you with attention to get attention from not even that like emotional
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just one one for example a guy just caught sorry baby let me just let me just say okay i think i
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know what you mean about emotional cheating like it's not physical right but if a woman is interacting
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with a man and i thought about this today someone's liking someone's pictures right is that class
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the cheating as well because you're actually looking at the person you're lusting over them
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i don't know but emotionally a woman is everything's emotional and mental for us anyway
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okay so if a guy acts as our accesses our mental and he starts texting or talking to you that would
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be for me classed as emotional cheating that's fine in that sense maybe move the discussion on a bit so
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are you saying from the way you kind of presented it it's kind of like uh the man's uh prerogative for
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why this happened absolutely to what extent does the woman take responsibility for that cheating
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for the crime that she's committed yeah one thing that i noticed that i don't know like
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just to kind of general by the way we're talking about let's talk about third person woman men
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yeah i've noticed that anytime a woman is caught it's your fault like you should be i don't know
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if this is i've seen this a lot like you watch this on instagram videos etc where she would be like
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it's because of you like what you said now which um there is a whole like phenomenon about women
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don't like taking accountability but basically in a nutshell emotional cheating is bro the emotional
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things that she wants from you the attention you do not give it she replaces it with someone
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else so she cheating is not in the physical sense it's in the emotional sense she expects that from
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you you do not give it to her she will find it somewhere else can't she do that anyway without
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giving it she receives it from her husband she can but she's saying here that for example it's
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sufficient from the husband if the husband doesn't give it she would go and seek it elsewhere so the
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cheating is not necessarily committing zina which cheating in islamist zina is penetration happening
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we're not talking about that we're talking about for example emotional neglect she's like i will go and
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fulfill that via my friends zoned individuals or other people my tutor whoever's for that matter
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who's telling me nice things things that i crave i get it from that person basically basically
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obviously as a provider as a provider you provide not just find the financial needs or whatever you
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you also provide the emotional need that's a basic necessity especially for a woman but if she's not
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getting that home it's a it's a natural it's a natural need it's a basic need it's a human need
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for her so she will naturally without obviously like intentionally wanting to she will seek it out
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let's say let's say let's say she's working and it's a male colleague rather than confiding in you
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as a husband she confines in her male colleague confides in her male colleague and says look i'm
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going through this i'm going through that and then he says oh it's okay i'm i'm gonna be here for you
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that that specifically that that and then so then eventually they build a connection because she's now
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now she's got her outlet because her husband's neglected her for a while and that outlet is her colleague
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a scenario per se um and she goes to him on a regular basis it's not cheating the first time
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but then now she's going to him on a regular basis i'm going i'm going through this and i'm going to
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i feel like this and this is what's happened in my life um and and i need you i need you and that's
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when it becomes emotional cheating she's cheating so when she starts to depend on another man
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another man for her emotional needs yeah does that make sense so not physical there could be a man
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who's physically yeah but emotionally the guy is not that he's absent yeah but this can lead to the
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physical cheating as well yeah yeah because they build that connection with each other yes do we so
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do you sisters agree with that yeah but just to go back again you ask the question all right so i deal
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with the question yes you ask me what why a woman would cheat and it's because you neglect her emotional
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needs you neglecting her in that way so when you said oh is it the brother's fault yeah and the brother
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will be called to account if his wife actually does go out and cheat on him because you shouldn't be
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neglecting her in that way and she's going to go and seek it somewhere else she she would obviously
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obviously we're talking in general terms as well but general terms she um uh i don't think it gives
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her reason to do that for example she can say you know what this man man is not emotionally
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satisfying me and i would like a divorce because i fear that i will go and do something haram
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so i don't think because woman tends to run away from accountability but in this instance i don't
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think she can run away from this in the sense where if that is the case yes you can talk this man is
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not giving i've communicated to him i've talked to him i need this i'm trying to vent out you're not
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going to be there for me then instead of going to the direction because allah says in the quran
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don't even come near to it coming near to is having co-friends etc male friends in that for the get-go
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anyways so i would say we can't read accountability and blame the man she has responsibility you don't
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like it divorce him go get married to someone but there is there is okay i get what you're saying
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i 100 get what you're saying um at the end of the day doesn't matter what what how much he neglects
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her the fact that she committed the act herself the responsibility does come down to her we're not
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saying that she's not responsible she is responsible but then the man also reason but
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the man also he also plays a level of responsibility in that they're both they both the reason why she
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went and emotionally cheated which eventually let's say led to physical cheating was the fact that she
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was being her emotions were being like neglected in the first the source the source was was the fact that
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her emotional needs weren't being met on on that basis though um it's important to point out that
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it's a man's validation because everything you guys mentioned um she could get it from a female
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right so also there must be it's not the same she can't she can't if she can't again my experience
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is limited in this sense but if a woman can get emotional support from a woman um but she's trying
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to get it from a man what's the difference between the emotional support a man provides compared to a
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woman it's a different which we're going to find out now two women can't be in a relationship
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another thing before we come to the brothers is also uh sister ghazane and inshallah
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this is the perfect um a fahana sister fahana sorry i'll get the system mixed up uh mixed up so
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um also would you say that the lack of masculinity in a man does it also lead a woman to be disloyal
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oh yeah a lack of masculinity it's very important can we have you two touch upon it please inshallah
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so a lack of masculinity does this lead to a man because by your nature you want a man that's a
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leader a provider someone masculine when that lacks does that play a role in pushing or like you know
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despise that man like um i would say personally it's not the reason i feel a woman would kind of
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move away from that relationship because of a lack of masculinity there is a level of patience and
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support that we try to go through to before that becomes the be all and end all but i don't
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actually think that um i think first and foremost it's really important to clarify for me like i feel
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that um men cheating and women cheating starts off very differently and the motives start off very
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differently for example um i would say that females the the cheating process starts when she
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disconnects herself from her husband so there has to be an element of disconnect first before she
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then has the idea of seeking the validation or the emotions from someone else whereas i feel with
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males the cheating starts it's not they don't need to disconnect from the existing wife to then
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form another connection whereas females do and so it is quite a long process it's not just something
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that happens on a whim um you know it's it's actually you know females fight i don't have
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experience by the way just a disclaimer but i'm just getting into to our psych um you know why that
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could happen is that it is a long process of disconnecting and it's got to be a succession of
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disappointments that the the husband has demonstrated towards her before she gets to the point of seeking
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um compassion or attention or love or validation from someone else so i feel like it's a more of a
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serious journey for when females end up in that um compromised situation than when it does for males and
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this is why i also feel that um women generally are more forgiving of males um cheating than women
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because we understand inherently that a woman's actually gone through a whole long process of
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disconnect before that if that if it ends up into a physical act that before she even got to that
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position i also believe that for the most part if it does get to the physical um aspect for a woman
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that she's had to battle a lot or is actually feeling stuck actually in that relationship that
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didn't allow her to just leave the marriage to then you know proceed with another relationship
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because in my mind if you were if i was ever going to feel that way that's the process i would take i
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wouldn't resort to that it would just be end the relationship you know marry someone else that's it
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but for for that to happen something fundamentally must be wrong in her life opportunities in the
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existing marriage for for that to kind of coincide with the marriage that acts to um overlap with
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having a husband and having um i don't know what to call him a lover side side person yeah it's not
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even a side thing it's totally different yes it's not because you guys are monogamous by nature
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you know sis i i get you know what you just you've explained that so beautifully that there is a
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mental process that goes behind it but i was just gonna i wanted to touch upon what buddha ali dhawa
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said about the lack of respect there are some women out there who have like a certain type of
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personality specifically narcissistic personality types they usually will seek out a man who is very
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kind and gentle and considerate and over like giving with no boundaries um and he doesn't he kind of
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lacks a backbone in um standing up for himself and women insecure man insecure man you say they would
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seek that intentionally yes yes let me tell you why let me tell you that guy would never be the main
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guy they narcissistic women specifically will seek out these type of women because that man will
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provide he will provide and he will bend over backwards for her he's giving her basic necessities
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that she needs so she doesn't have to work she doesn't need to do all those things um and he's very
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overgiving while she goes and does her thing there's there are women out there who will take advantage of
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men who sorry you describe as insecure but like yeah in a to a to a to a certain extent they are insecure
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are you saying they would seek to marry these men yes there there are women there are women who will
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seek to marry these type of men because of the advantages that comes with it but then also the fact that
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they can do what they want to do yes so we're gonna we're gonna go to brother sataj and brother
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as well we need to really understand this dynamics we need to listen to our sisters very carefully
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because this is the dynamics of of a woman they're hypergamous by nature and if there's certain
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things that they can't they can't find in that perfect man they would it's it's it's like they
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would have it's like something um you it's it's temporary until you find the one you know it's it's
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most times but sartaj and then brother mahti so i i have a lot of experience with seeing women
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cheating on their partners because the places are working and i kind of see like married women or women in
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relationships they come out uh they got husbands at home and they come out and maybe go with someone
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else or don't do things and that but the main thing comes from this is is the situation starts at home
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if the man is not like doing this part at home or listening to them or doing certain things but a lot
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of women would pick on these little things to make excuses for themselves okay so things we have to
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understand that it's not all the time this problem that are the man is not uh ticking all the boxes
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now sometimes he does tick all the boxes but they still will find the problem to kind of do certain
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things to make excuses for the actions okay but the thing is the main thing is in islamic in in our
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muslim community if it happens is she's not she's not getting what she wants at home and when she goes
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outside gets her from someone else and it's hard for women to do that but but then but then starts
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from a conversation someone showing that interest in her or being there for her and she when she goes
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home the husband is too busy he might not even know it he's doing this and the thing is a lot of time
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women need to talk to their husband to say look um i need to talk to you you need to listen to me you
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know i've got this problem but sometimes they won't have that communication then she'll go off
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start talking to someone starts your conversation then slowly slowly lead to zana and this is how it
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starts off so i think that's okay you've got one and a half minutes starting now i feel like women
00:23:28.760
are very vocal and i don't feel that any woman just cheats willy-nilly you know it's not just something
00:23:34.460
you do on the side like i feel maybe the male biology can much naturally easily um do um also
00:23:43.060
you also have to question whether the man sold her a lie and maybe that's why she's become unhappy
00:23:50.140
what have you sold her the marriage to be maybe at the beginning you know it was all lovely and you
00:23:55.660
know you had promises and dreams and etc maybe life has come in the way and you've both slowed down you
00:24:01.280
know in in achieving those objectives or those things that you had passion for but someone along the
00:24:07.460
way has um been neglected we go back to that word but it it's not a very easy process to just
00:24:15.080
go to work get a bit of attention from males i mean we've all been to work you know for many years
00:24:22.520
and of course females get attention and in in between we've been married you know we've had
00:24:28.780
children and 40 seconds it doesn't mean that because someone else has given me attention that
00:24:34.140
i'm going to latch on to that just very easily like something fundamental has to have broken down
00:24:39.860
in the relationship can i can i go to math before can i just land this please i think i don't please
00:24:47.160
don't get me wrong i have to mention this because if people don't talk about it incompetency in the
00:24:52.920
bedroom excuse me everyone i'm sure we're all adults in here but that could also be another deciding
00:24:57.600
factor a lot of people don't talk about it there's men that have issues do you know i mean there's
00:25:03.060
things going on and i'm just i have to mention it for the viewers because people may be suffering
00:25:08.200
with this at home this is actually this is a big problem that we shy away from that we need to talk
00:25:12.500
about yeah and i just feel like it's worth mentioning that there is incompetency and women
00:25:17.480
sometimes they don't know how to articulate that yes and they may actually feel like okay i can't
00:25:22.700
articulate it it's just i'm not saying it will and i'm not just yeah and i'm not justifying
00:25:27.440
cheating for a woman but if she goes and cheats after that but i'm just have to mention it that
00:25:32.940
that could potentially be over a period of time if you're not communicating as a man and you're not
00:25:37.960
working together to fix that problem yeah she could eventually feel like you know it's not opening up
00:25:42.020
it's not letting me know what's going on and then some other guy comes along it is it is it is her
00:25:45.640
rights and islamic need like the reason i started this show is we need to be open about this stuff
00:25:49.160
we want solutions yeah i i had a forgive me i had an ad it's called um forgive me it's it's
00:25:55.320
yeah it's called x iagra or something like that yeah and people are you a tower guy how could you
00:26:00.320
i'm like i'm just thinking are you on this planet earth it is halal by the way i've spoken to a lot
00:26:08.660
of my sheikh yeah there are brothers who are watching pornography yeah and they have erectile
00:26:13.100
erectile dysfunction bro they can't please their wives this is a real issue this is a real issue
00:26:18.900
yeah and it needs to be discussed about and people are like you're a tower guy wait you know
00:26:22.720
what are you talking about it's a real problem and it's the woman's haq this is this not in that
00:26:26.520
it is the woman's haq she has every right to ask for divorce if she is not sexually pleased
00:26:33.020
this is islam you got a problem brother go follow what you want we follow islam it is a woman's
00:26:37.720
haq to say i am not happy and actually this happened this happened at the time of the prophet
00:26:41.020
if i'm not mistaken a woman came and said i am not sexually satisfied it's her haq what are you
00:26:46.020
going to say oh it's aib it's rude she came to the messenger of allah the prophet sallam and
00:26:50.600
ashland and her they praised the ansari woman for being so transparent with these matters
00:26:55.000
i want to say the thing is one thing about especially it comes from the culture side that
00:27:01.980
people don't communicate a lot so if they have a problem at home and sister when i said about the
00:27:06.600
cheating thing i was talking it from the westernness side western views and that because i work on the
00:27:11.720
doors i see certain things that a lot of people don't see so the thing is what i'm saying is that
00:27:16.960
people don't communicate because what kind of backgrounds like if you come from the pakistani
00:27:20.920
background they don't really talk about anything like that what happens at home or if they'll get
00:27:25.740
any problems why are you talking if they go to their family don't talk about your husband like that
00:27:29.920
you know i mean and they're really locked in so what they do they're one trying to find escape yeah
00:27:35.180
and and then they come to a stage that they can't talk to anyone and they're trying to find escape and
00:27:39.400
that's when all of this happens yeah i wanted to i wanted to i wanted to i wanted to add to what
00:27:45.720
you were saying the there's also like a element of shame so for example let's say a woman is not
00:27:51.880
satisfied in the bedroom uh and let's say they come from like a maybe a strict cultural background
00:27:57.920
and the husband the wife does address it to the husband that he will shame her he'll be oh it's your
00:28:03.880
fault like you can't be satisfied like but but you're the man you're not i'm not trying to be
00:28:09.520
like crude or anything but you're the one who's performing and you're the one who's performing
00:28:14.120
you're the one who's providing uh and if she's telling you hey look i'm not satisfied can we try
00:28:19.800
something different can we do something different but then you turn around and say um like how dare you
00:28:25.000
have these needs and um and then shame her for having these basic human needs for her to just
00:28:31.140
be satisfied if you're shaming her then then you're just closing up that topic of conversation and then
00:28:36.560
she automatically now doesn't want to even talk to you about it can i just add can i just ask a question
00:28:40.920
i'll pass it over to mahdi um i understand a lot of what you guys have said and obviously um it's your
00:28:45.520
opinion is how you feel it's valid um and a lot of it from my perspective is you know a woman's been
00:28:50.460
driven to that point which perhaps is the case so from a female perspective obviously as men will
00:28:55.260
take accountability to kind of prevent that inshallah from happening but so from a female
00:29:00.560
perspective what could she have done to prevent that this engagement from happening from the husband
00:29:06.160
and kind of mitigate um her the fact that she's not being satisfied in the building what could she do
00:29:12.280
to kind of support her husband in these matters it depends though because it just all depends on the
00:29:18.100
scenario right i just feel like it all depends what could she do to prevent it depends why there's
00:29:23.780
incompetence in the bedroom is it a medical issue is it something you can work on is it something you
00:29:28.900
need to get viagraful is it something you need to see a doctor is it is it porn what is the issue so
00:29:34.340
again it's all about communication if you're not communicating that's why i said if there is
00:29:38.560
incompetent issues in the bedroom then the man and the woman are not communicating they don't want to
00:29:42.540
work towards like healing and fixing the issue then unfortunately you have cases where people are
00:29:49.000
cheating you know can i just add just out of curiosity or i mean there's an element that informs my
00:29:54.840
question here um from a sister that i've known um to have had a similar experience um the assumption
00:30:03.000
is i think for maybe a lot of female minds is that to raise a concern in that area of the marriage
00:30:10.160
would automatically make you feel as a man emasculated and therefore there's a fear to
00:30:16.280
address it so perhaps this is the barrier that's preventing that communication and then to if you're
00:30:23.600
saying that no it doesn't emasculate for some reason we have that idea maybe there was a scenario
00:30:30.800
of a sister that addressed it with her husband at the time they were having issues and he questioned
00:30:36.720
why she had how she knew she had a problem with that side of things and he questioned her integrity
00:30:45.860
and her whole um you know what happened before they got married so and he completely flipped it and said
00:30:54.220
that if you are asking me these questions if you are unsatisfied that must mean you've had prior
00:30:59.980
experience wow and that was her first marriage you know so clearly he's suggesting something yeah so
00:31:06.700
i think maybe there's a fear of from the female side there's a fear of these kinds of reactions um
00:31:13.280
i think that's a very good point there has to be there has to be a thin line because the biggest
00:31:17.080
emasculation for a man should be that your wife goes and be sleeps with another man so for that matter
00:31:23.740
i think men should be grown-ups and be like i'd rather be emasculated by my wife communicating to me
00:31:28.960
what i'm not doing rather than me pushing it to a level where i'm emasculated by knowing that she was
00:31:33.420
another man so men should mature up another issue that you said in this matter we'll go to mahdi as
00:31:37.840
well is uh you're right brothers are very sensitive when it comes to the past of their wives we've
00:31:41.760
discussed this why does virginity matter for a man for man watch that episode inshallah we talk in
00:31:45.620
detail to understand our psychology where we come from those things do trigger men in the sense of
00:31:50.320
oh you want me to do that but oh is it because he so it's a very fine balance but let's get back
00:31:55.140
to topic inshallah which is uh matthew you've been quite quiet i think you've been assessing maybe the
00:31:58.660
whole room and the situation at hand um some excellent points have been raised so we can
00:32:04.700
categorize now the two types of cheating that the sisters have raised as the emotional soul or the
00:32:10.380
physical soul or maybe even both is going on okay a sister could be emotionally satisfied
00:32:16.440
or not intimately satisfied and she can potentially cheat okay vice versa as well she could be physically
00:32:23.840
satisfied but not emotionally satisfied and she although sex is very much like a glue and if she's
00:32:29.720
intimately satisfied she's less likely to step out on you than if she is emotionally satisfied
00:32:35.480
and that's why i would say like your duty as a man just to quote actually i'm stealing this quote
00:32:39.980
from abu american shout out to him your duty as a man is to alpha widow your woman within the first
00:32:44.460
two three months meaning she is the best intimate experience either she's ever had if she was married
00:32:50.300
before or she's completely satisfied with you if she has not been married before now the sisters also
00:32:54.660
raised another excellent point which is that a brother or a man it's not even a muslim thing
00:33:00.120
will absolutely feel emasculated if his woman said to him uh uh you know i'm not intimately satisfied
00:33:07.060
and navigating that minefield pro that's a mad one how do i tell my husband i'm not intimately satisfied
00:33:14.820
without him doing a uno reverse card on me and putting it back on me and saying uh you know maybe
00:33:20.020
you've got prior experience and whatnot and as much as i agree with you ahali when you say
00:33:24.160
he needs the emasculation of her stepping out is worse than the emasculation of her saying that
00:33:29.360
yeah but that's the hard one to hear your wife tell you it is it is like you just you feel like a zero
00:33:34.440
do you understand but but rather than like focusing on the fact that oh um i feel emasculated in this
00:33:41.840
moment because my wife just told me i'm not she's not i'm not signing her it's rather than it focusing on
00:33:46.640
now why don't you focus on the fact that okay my wife's just come with the fact that
00:33:50.480
she has a need and the need is that she needs to be satisfied you need to have compassion
00:33:55.600
yes exactly compassion and the ones that you guys actually failed miserably to put in
00:34:03.520
to answer your question it depends it maybe he can do better maybe he can't let me just be perfectly
00:34:08.460
frank here okay if she's been married before i understand but i'm just being frank here yeah this
00:34:13.340
is why men have such an aversion to women who do have prior sexual experience whether it's in halal
00:34:19.040
or not honestly it's not relevant majority of men have an aversion to women who have prior because he
00:34:24.000
knows that she's going to be comparing i did a polygyny q a live on my wife's channel the other day
00:34:28.960
the one most common question i got from the sisters was will he compare me with the new wife and i said
00:34:34.920
sisters you know why you're asking that question because that's how you that's how you think
00:34:38.980
exactly because that's how you assess so you can understand the aversion that men have now i'm not
00:34:44.000
saying it's right or wrong or whatever i'm just stating it as it is yeah now with regards to what
00:34:48.620
the sister dopamine said with regards to he's going to be accountable if she does step out i will reject
00:34:52.940
that and i'll explain explain to you why akha ali mentioned the ayah at the beginning of the podcast
00:34:56.820
very poignantly which is where allah says and don't go anywhere near zina no i'm not zina i'm coming
00:35:03.000
i'm coming i'm coming i'll let you land your bow 77 so if yeah let me land the plane so so if she
00:35:11.040
is feeling this way and she has attempted to communicate it to him and she you know she's
00:35:15.700
exhausted all avenues and for whatever it's not happening just as akha ali pointed out is that it
00:35:21.180
is a legitimate reason for a divorce if you've exhausted all other avenues first but for her to
00:35:28.300
not do that and instead go down the haram that's 100 on her even if he's not even if he's not
00:35:35.280
he's not saying you are yeah i'm not saying you are i'm just saying even if he's in error even if
00:35:39.540
he's denying oh what's wrong with you even if he's like trying to do a una reverse on you
00:35:43.500
doesn't matter that sin is still on you that's in that sin is still on the sister because okay he made
00:35:51.020
his from a from a from a sin perspective yeah he messed up fine but you must take that full
00:35:56.360
account so i'd say there's solutions we want solutions right if a sister finds herself in
00:36:00.780
that situation she needs to find a way men are dumb for the most part when it comes to
00:36:05.040
picking up on your covert communication strategies exactly they don't get it they don't understand
00:36:09.340
they don't get it now you're caught between the two dilemmas the dilemma of covert communication
00:36:14.880
and the dilemma of if i'm direct he's going to feel emasculated which one do i choose this is
00:36:20.240
where hikmah comes in i don't know maybe you speak with his father and he's somebody of authority
00:36:25.460
who can speak to him in a particular manner there has to be some hikmah here you see
00:36:29.700
in the delivery of the message but is that more emasculating if the wife goes to somebody else
00:36:36.100
i didn't say do that i said i was just giving an example off the cuff of potential ways you could
00:36:42.140
approach this discussion just as when uh the old man was making wudu and uh what are the grandsons of
00:36:48.980
hassan and hussein and they to show him how to do wudu properly but they didn't tell him they said
00:36:55.940
they taught each other look this is how you do wudu and the old man picked up on it absolutely i
00:36:59.980
agree with everything you said but doesn't it sorry sorry ali it doesn't it depend on how how you
00:37:05.060
approach doesn't it depend on what type of cheating we're talking about because we've we've we've clearly
00:37:08.800
seen that there's two types of cheating women do right emotional cheating which i feel like most
00:37:13.700
women most likely are going to do that cheating to get physical yeah it's yeah it's very it's very
00:37:19.960
very very not likely yeah you mentioned in the western society that's most likely going to happen
00:37:24.940
but as muslims if we want to talk about emotional cheating i think it's best to stick to that i think
00:37:30.160
that's fine to communicate to your husband if you feel like he's emotionally absent i feel like that's
00:37:35.260
easy i feel like a man should be able to communicate with his wife and she should be able to communicate
00:37:39.240
with him if he's on emotionally unavailable i think i think i would just that wouldn't demasculate
00:37:44.980
a man yeah i think i think i think i think if a wife would you agree other than mahti if it does
00:37:48.120
then you he's got a lot of incompetency in the bedroom now that's yeah let's talk about serious
00:37:53.280
so for example mahti would you agree that for example let's say for example the woman says
00:37:56.500
i haven't tried this like like can like the impression even if she has a past it's very important
00:38:02.680
wording is very important yeah just be like you know what i've never tried this like can we do it
00:38:06.720
for the first time i think these wording like for example because going to someone else talking
00:38:12.300
directly is a problem indirectly can be a problem maybe just saying you know what for example can
00:38:17.080
we try this today yeah i've never experienced this like can we do this today or let's try that or
00:38:22.580
are we talking about physical stuff yes it's intimacy outright intimacy but like for example i wouldn't
00:38:26.280
even say it i'd tell her just do it don't tell him she's asking the issue is this yeah if do what
00:38:31.320
she's asking you she's asking she she wants something yeah she's asking and saying can we
00:38:37.000
try this so this comes down to hikmah now yeah i said you gotta be so careful when approaching this
00:38:41.280
with most men specifically because it's gonna be all like oh that's like i think it will break
00:38:45.900
command yeah but but there are ways to do it you can still get what you want you just have to be
00:38:49.640
smart about it so instead of outright telling it that's a secret ladies only learn i feel right
00:38:54.060
right and that's why you guys are better at the art of covert communication than we are in the first
00:38:59.820
instance okay there's a way to there's a way of approaching approach things as a as a woman when
00:39:06.700
you're in a relationship with a man and it's it's like a secret gem that comes after a while i feel
00:39:13.040
like it doesn't come naturally i don't think it comes naturally i feel like over the time after
00:39:17.200
experience being married for so long you you realize how to deal with the man and how to get things from
00:39:22.140
can i throw a spanner into the works i want to throw a spanner into the works yeah i personally
00:39:27.040
believe okay and again this is from my experience from the men that i know if there is an emotional
00:39:32.820
need or a sexual need if you express that to your partner if he's a male it doesn't demasculate the
00:39:39.560
man i personally feel that way really yeah i really do i don't think it's a problem it depends on what
00:39:45.300
kind of man it depends on yeah yeah yeah let's talk about majority not exceptions to the rule there's
00:39:50.140
exceptions to the rule most men bro they would feel insecure in many ways but how do you ascertain
00:39:53.980
that i feel like it's the exceptions that are causing the issue because what we want to do is
00:39:56.700
there's exceptions to the rule yeah so there's there's a general uh like 99 of men 99 of women
00:40:02.420
and then there are those one percent exceptions for example yeah so what i'm saying in that nutshell is
00:40:06.240
that let's let's let's talk about the general because there are exceptions there might be a man who
00:40:09.840
says you know i have no problem if my wife comes and speaks about uh her past and well good for you
00:40:15.600
yeah so um yeah i would say let's talk for solutions in that you know what it is is do you
00:40:20.740
know why a man would have a problem with it it feels like a direct criticism to his performance it
00:40:25.900
depends so say for example if if for example the man has a need to be the leader and i feel as though
00:40:32.160
if in that relationship he knows that if this criticism is thrown at him it doesn't take away
00:40:37.920
from his manhood it won't necessarily be a problem but that's a man who's secure with himself
00:40:41.460
what i say is depend how you approach it so if your woman goes to you you don't perform properly
00:40:46.020
that's going to demasculate you but if she goes to you that let's try something different or you can
00:40:51.880
do this in this way let's try something let's do this or my friend's done this let me and you try it
00:40:57.780
out so the thing is you approach it in a way that you don't this uh well like you know you don't attack
00:41:03.980
the man you don't attack the man but you kind of approach it in a different way but if you go
00:41:07.520
straight at him of course he's gonna fall the topic has gone to the topic of intimacy this topic
00:41:12.820
of why women are destroyed by the way i'm going to make the whole episode on this because we need
00:41:16.940
a whole episode for the men which we'll do next time can i ask a question because we've got we've
00:41:21.680
got 30 minutes so let's stick to the topic of i want to genuinely ask about the emotional what can
00:41:28.040
men do um that will prevent women from being um why are men somewhat emotionally unavailable one
00:41:35.000
and what can men do to stop women from actually going out and cheating on them emotionally good
00:41:40.840
good what can we do to i'll go first yeah um i'll reject that thing you said men are uh generally
00:41:46.880
that's not true some men perhaps what can they do i think it depends on the relationships i don't
00:41:52.280
think sorry i i didn't understand that because i said what can men do and we are talking about men
00:41:57.340
and women right yeah but um did you want me to put muslim men no no you said uh why are men
00:42:02.240
emotionally unavailable yeah they are tend to be emotionally unavailable i think she's saying
00:42:06.240
in the terms of saying some men no no we're talking about cheating right yeah so we've we've
00:42:11.240
we've talked about cheating yeah we're talking about cheating so why we already acknowledge so
00:42:16.120
we're talking about the men that are cheating yeah okay those specific men neglecting a woman
00:42:23.260
emotionally okay that answer um i think depends on the relationship and i don't know the thing is
00:42:30.920
like if you know your wife you'll pick up on the body language yes how she acts how she is but if
00:42:37.740
you don't know your wife then it's going to be a big problem because with men we can't read women
00:42:43.260
that's why they need to study the mental strife but this is what i mean that you have to sometimes
00:42:47.080
we be like so busy in this world thinking about how to repay the rent or how to do this how to do
00:42:52.840
that i'm thinking about other things and yeah it doesn't come to our head you know you know you
00:42:56.420
know one one thing like that tell me if i'm right or wrong here yeah um the reason why sister uh
00:43:01.240
ghislaine talked about being um first you have to detach from him this is because you women are
00:43:06.560
monogamous by nature you are happy with one man but he has to be a man once you're happy with that
00:43:11.920
man you will not look anywhere else i believe this hundred percent if that man is the man you will
00:43:16.240
never ever even think about it that's the reason why when we talk about polygamy you guys bug out
00:43:19.820
because you're like this is how i see him but he doesn't see me the same because we don't think like you
00:43:24.320
for us men even if we had the most drop dead gorgeous woman on this planet earth we can tend
00:43:30.300
to want other women do you get what i'm trying to say so in that aspect answering the question
00:43:33.880
coming back to this before brothers and sisters go oh here we go ali again with this polygamy
00:43:36.420
going back to this issue is this if a man is there for his wife protect providing that's the basic
00:43:43.120
dean on dean by the way praying etc but you have to be expressive i genuinely say this you have to be
00:43:48.740
expressive with your wife even if it's lying brother it's white as the process is allowed yeah
00:43:53.200
touching look hearing look let her hear and let her feel your love it's very important to even if
00:44:00.280
like i said before waking up in the morning etc like like and again i'm a nobody i'm not trying
00:44:05.740
to boast like i'm someone but i try to be expressive with my wife she's a co-producer of this she's here
00:44:10.580
and i'm not saying it because anything that i say in the back of it if i'm not doing it she'd be like
00:44:13.640
so this guy's lying she knows i'm trying to i try to be expressive and even in the morning where the
00:44:18.320
sisters might feel like you know they look they don't look their part just say oh my gosh man look at this
00:44:21.920
yeah it's it's it's very important expressive touching for example um intimately or not it's
00:44:28.640
very important because i believe as men that we have a big responsibility yeah and some brother i
00:44:34.180
know a brother who was his wife cheated on him and i asked him a simple question i said bro just
00:44:38.320
want to understand a few dynamics of your marriage can you tell me a little bit about it he's like bro
00:44:42.440
i work 60 hours a week i gave her whatever she wanted i said stop i said rewind please he said i gave
00:44:49.380
her whatever she wanted i said brother for me is anytime for example sometimes if you take all the
00:44:54.960
boxes you'd untick all them the problem is this when you give a woman everything but there's no you're
00:45:00.140
not at home yeah you give her whatever she wants i blame men we as men are the leaders and providers
00:45:06.320
for a reason allah's put on put us over them for a reason and if you do not do your bit we're not
00:45:11.960
saying justifying the cheating of of the woman but the point is this you do play a role in the sense
00:45:17.560
of what are you sinful i don't know if you're sinful she's sinful if she does that but as a man you
00:45:21.620
have to do your bit emotionally you have to be there for yes physically in the bedroom etc you have
00:45:27.020
to and i promise you bro if you do that i genuinely believe in a woman would never ever ever think of
00:45:33.360
another man maybe you guys elaborate on that solutions wise she wanted to say something yeah
00:45:37.700
um i wanted to say um obviously to avoid the cheating you could uh go on dates every week
00:45:47.540
like every like every week is like perfect or yeah every week's perfect yeah so every week when
00:45:54.860
you do that you're bonding emotionally you're getting to know each other you're talking you're
00:45:59.300
getting to know each other's quality time your time like you time yeah quality time brilliant yeah
00:46:05.200
yeah when you do that your bond will grow stronger and then you'll get to know your wife even more
00:46:10.320
what she wants and she she know what you want i would like to probe sister dopamine if that's okay
00:46:16.040
i noticed that this discussion of emotional uh unavailability it brought out a visceral
00:46:21.620
visceral reaction inside you so maybe if you could contextualize what you're explaining with a
00:46:27.480
specific story or maybe someone that you know i didn't really get emotionally unavailable yeah
00:46:32.740
emotional unavailable so when a man is emotionally unavailable what specific instance could you share
00:46:38.700
with us because then we could give you a more specialized answer men men in general they get women so
00:46:43.040
confused and i just recently put out a video about our menstrual cycle and sorry to be a bit tmi
00:46:47.260
but we are an emotional being do you understand so if you not normal but if you if you look into
00:46:54.040
our hormones and how we are just unbalanced all the time up and down up and down if you study this
00:46:59.880
then you've essentially understood women do you understand if you understand that then you're you're
00:47:04.620
so yeah i mean like you would never be you'll never be emotional unavailable what you just said
00:47:10.720
there is important because their hormones are up and down that's what i like no no no you said to
00:47:15.120
me so this is this is you'll never catch it that's how we are you can't change that but i'll give you
00:47:21.300
i'll give you the panacea you can't change it so if you can't change something what do you do you
00:47:25.920
understand you try to understand it don't try to bend the woman because she's gonna break yeah she will
00:47:29.800
break correct no but i'm just saying a man does need to invest emotionally in his woman yeah he
00:47:34.840
doesn't what he does need to invest emotionally but attention is one of those commodities that you
00:47:40.680
need to treat with caution because if you give too much of it i agree she will the the value of it
00:47:47.800
begins to diminish i agree and the fit now because again there's loads of young guys watching this and
00:47:52.580
i'm more speaking to them when i'm speaking to you guys and the filter generally is conduct your daily
00:47:58.300
affairs fear allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to the best of your ability i'm talking to the men now yeah
00:48:01.760
and then work work hard work very hard and then after all of that i don't even believe scheduled
00:48:08.100
dates by the way i don't believe none of that nonsense i feel like that's preference wise
00:48:12.060
i literally i called my on thursday night i called my wife up i said so listen i've just finished with
00:48:16.480
work i may or may not be taking you out but get your stuff ready anyway i had it even decided
00:48:21.340
that's so inconsistent exactly i feel like i feel like honestly i hear what you're saying i'm gonna
00:48:29.340
let you finish landing you're still hovering over to go down oh did you press it it was me oh you
00:48:36.500
pressed it for her okay you got one and a half minutes starting now i hear what you're saying
00:48:39.200
but that's your marriage and that's what works for you and your wife no no it's not my marriage
00:48:43.600
i'm so sorry yeah yeah one and a half minute and then you just to be just you've got one and a
00:48:48.980
half minute one and a half minute sister go um that's what works for you do you get it that's
00:48:53.480
what works for you so you want to speak to your wife like that and deal with her like that that's
00:48:56.860
absolutely fine you're compatible for each other but in general i don't that that differs
00:49:02.160
do you understand that differs it doesn't mean that because you think that's hard that that every
00:49:07.080
guy should be treating their wives like that because everyone's different one minute you got one
00:49:10.000
are you finished are you finished you got one minute have you finished i'm just trying to be
00:49:14.800
just here have you got one minute i can add that can i add to you no no no it's your time have you
00:49:18.700
got you got one minute do you want to carry on um i'll pass the baton yeah i'll pass the baton
00:49:23.400
this reaction is good because again i'm speaking to the there is an inverse relationship between what
00:49:31.080
makes a woman happy and what makes her desire you okay i have a few wives alhamdulillah not just one
00:49:36.380
and i can tell you from my experience dealing with women that there are some common traits and
00:49:40.920
themes that you'll see in all of them there is an inverse relationship between her happiness and her
00:49:46.080
desire for you the happier you make her the less she desires you if there's a slight few things that
00:49:51.520
are annoying just as you just said that's annoying that would annoy me yeah that's that element of
00:49:55.760
unpredictability can be annoying but it keeps her attention because she just doesn't know what's
00:50:00.560
coming next and that is the spontaneity that you guys speak of so often i want my husband to be
00:50:05.900
spontaneous i agree with you i agree with you how about instead of saying oh i'll phone your wife
00:50:13.120
and say oh get we may or may not be going out tonight but get ready anyway i feel like that's a
00:50:18.000
little bit of a joke yeah you're gonna you're sitting here on disappointment i would do you really
00:50:21.940
do that one second let me have a brother one second is it is it like that or is it because you
00:50:26.740
remember last time there was some stuff he was like he actually wasn't like that yeah yeah no no
00:50:30.700
look look i don't know okay is it directly like that or is it yeah so my normal bar it depends on
00:50:37.900
which wife i'm going to go out with but my normal bar is i'm going to be with you in half an hour get
00:50:41.140
ready we're going that's my normal okay good spontaneous okay so it's not it's listen you
00:50:44.560
don't understand it's not five minutes exactly exactly so it's basically half an hour for example
00:50:49.700
he just finished work he will tell his wife maybe the wife is oh i wish you gave me some more time but
00:50:53.300
you know deep down she likes to you know what oh my gosh like you know in 30 minutes
00:50:56.440
let me just get ready we're not going out i'm sorry no no no i'll repeat again he said what he
00:51:02.820
meant was this like he finished work and he would say listen get ready in 30 minutes we're going out
00:51:06.500
he wouldn't say we're going out or not maybe he did say that then i told him i didn't say no he did
00:51:12.960
say that then i said to him clarify and then he said at least one thing i will i've noticed is that
00:51:19.380
they're getting attention from you so they're getting attention from you of course exactly
00:51:23.660
do you understand that's a bit of a joke though isn't it like
00:51:26.920
we clarified look at the bigger picture look at the bigger picture that's what i'm saying
00:51:31.500
he's making time i'll let it go but you're making but he's making time for his wives which is the
00:51:37.340
most important thing so they're not likely to go and cheat on him i'm just doing succeed on what
00:51:40.040
you might get my time yeah because then imagine you don't turn up and then you're setting her up
00:51:45.880
do you guys like spontaneity i think you over complicate as men like you don't even need to go out
00:51:52.620
for me if you turn up at home yeah you've had a long day and you know you don't really want to go
00:51:58.800
out but you want to do something with your wife i would say invest in a white um cloth for a table
00:52:03.700
and buy a candle set it up switch the lights still spontaneous let's look spontaneous yeah
00:52:08.660
that's what we're talking about he's saying don't be predictable and that's very important like
00:52:13.200
sisters like drama they like watching drama yeah yes yes yes let's be real here do you know do you
00:52:19.100
know why i'm saying stuff like this because i genuinely believe like i'm kind of look i'm kind
00:52:23.220
of on the manhaj of mahdi on this sense why because i don't agree with everything he says and he knows
00:52:28.860
that yeah people have a go at me why do you invite him i don't care about people's opinions okay
00:52:32.440
there are certain things i believe he says there are certain things i've called him up on there's
00:52:35.880
certain things he disagrees with me but the point of the show is to come and talk to people i disagree
00:52:39.880
and agree with but there are certain truths which he says which is important to understand the inner
00:52:44.360
dynamics and the hardwiring of women is for our brothers not for you guys it's for the men to
00:52:48.460
understand being unpredictable women like it not to the level where i'm coming in 30 minutes we might
00:52:54.780
go i know i know which i didn't mean it's that in 30 minutes be ready we're going out it's random
00:52:59.280
spontaneous but i'll provide the rest of the okay go on thank you that's what i'm talking about
00:53:03.160
if we don't go out we're going to do something at home anyway that was the good thank you but that
00:53:08.160
was only that was only because there were some other things gone irrespective but when i i don't
00:53:11.780
actually ask my women what they want to do i just tell them babe this is what we're doing get your
00:53:16.340
stuff and the view absolutely yeah they love it and and the beautiful thing about this behavior
00:53:21.500
is that i take all decision making away from them yes and that's good okay but that's good
00:53:27.860
that's that's good what about the house like what about the house like she has things in the
00:53:33.380
house so if she says you know what look i want this furniture i want this to be like this like are
00:53:35.880
you i don't care about the house okay so it's house is a kingdom okay sorry can i just say um i
00:53:40.560
think it's getting a bit detailed now so you're talking about your women because you know your
00:53:45.640
women you've studied them and you understand your did you want to say something on the topic before
00:53:49.720
she switched up the gears switched gears was there something you wanted to say but let's
00:53:55.520
let's stick to the top we've got 15 we've got 15 minutes i was going into uh love language and
00:54:00.080
understanding your spouse it goes both ways so if i know my man i know that's what he'd like and
00:54:04.760
you know your women and you know what they like yeah so as far as no i don't care i don't care i
00:54:08.480
don't care i don't care i don't care what women like i care what they respond to your type of
00:54:13.340
women did you hit did you catch that ball i don't care what women want that's i care what they
00:54:17.960
respond to absolutely fine and i agree with you there's a common that's your wife's no no no there's a
00:54:22.900
common theme whoever matters you has to respond to you like that correct i have a question but
00:54:27.400
wife she wants but let's say you hear her up and you say this is what we're doing get ready and
00:54:32.300
hang on a minute but i want to do something different like how do you respond to that they
00:54:36.340
never do but why do you know how they never do listen no because there's two brothers sitting next
00:54:41.440
to you i don't know if you're married yeah you want to deal with your wife the same way he does
00:54:45.640
this is this is it the thing is this is what i want everyone uh are different with their wife
00:54:50.700
that's mahdi's way my thing is this how do you know all women want that yeah because your experience
00:54:56.500
especially when you've got multiple let me finish let me finish because your experience is limited to
00:55:00.840
the women that you've been for have been with and they're from a certain background okay if you've
00:55:05.580
been with a woman from every single country married to all of them four at a time all the trauma
00:55:09.660
and then you can make a generalized comment like that that's a really good question yeah and it
00:55:14.220
requires a response so outside of obviously my own anecdotal experience which doesn't stretch very
00:55:18.660
far okay if you want to talk about the hundreds of clients that i have consulted myself because
00:55:23.340
that's what i do at my private time they pay me a thousand pound an hour for that if you want to
00:55:26.680
talk about a thousand pound an hour and it's going to go up because the cost of time is you know you
00:55:32.800
understand how to calculate uh yeah and there are common there are common as well behavioral traits that
00:55:41.180
women can't help but gravitate towards when you display them despite it annoying them and and and my
00:55:50.300
clients that i've consulted okay and you are you will find that there is an inverse relationship
00:55:55.460
you can only press it once as you can see between what makes her happy and what keeps her engaged and
00:56:03.080
i'm less interested in what makes her happy and more interested in what keeps her engaged yeah because
00:56:10.100
keeping her engaged does both keeping her happy just might keep her happy yes you said that keeping
00:56:17.000
her um engaged does both but then you said keeping her keeping her engaged will definitely keep her
00:56:23.820
happy but what type of engagement are you talking about she might be annoyed so that's not true but
00:56:27.200
keeping her happy exclusively no no than happy like you've just chasing her happiness exclusively
00:56:33.880
he's a winder what's the fastest what's the fastest way to make a woman we're not talking about
00:56:37.620
exclusivity of the two we're not saying that they're mutually exclusive i said why can you not
00:56:42.240
do both i've got i've got something by doing this if you focus on what keeps her engaged she might
00:56:49.100
dislike elements of it but ultimately she'll love you respect you and her overall happiness will be
00:56:54.520
greater if you chase her happiness exclusively no no i'm not saying they're mutually exclusive can i just go
00:57:00.240
back you just differentiated between engagement and happiness and then when i asked you about it
00:57:05.860
you said that engagement um ticks the box of happiness but then you differentiated happiness
00:57:10.740
so they're not the same thing but you didn't hear me no i heard you okay no no you've not heard me
00:57:15.820
because i'm asking you that you've you've differentiated between happiness and engagement
00:57:19.880
so just because a woman is happy yeah doesn't mean that she is engaged i have to keep this pg
00:57:26.140
just because she's happy with you doesn't mean she's engaged fine fine okay okay but when she
00:57:31.220
is engaged she might be annoyed with you but her overall happiness with you and satisfaction will
00:57:36.560
be greater i don't agree the fastest way to make a woman miserable guess what give her everything she
00:57:42.280
wants ali just pointed it out just now that's the fastest way to make her miserable it's true
00:57:46.220
now so no just just look we're gonna do this amongst brothers yeah okay yeah yeah now what i can say to you
00:57:51.520
before look i agree with a lot of stuff mahti says there's a lot of stuff i disagree with which i've been
00:57:55.040
vocal about him in the previous shows as well what mahti does is which i believe there's a lot of
00:57:58.980
things that he puts which i believe he has experience yeah um but what you do is sometimes
00:58:03.920
mahti is you take it step it up a notch that step a notch works i think with your wives so when you
00:58:08.240
say generally there's a lot of stuff foundation i agree with bang bang bang i'm like good good good
00:58:11.420
the stuff that you say where you're like like i decide everything i'm like okay that maybe works with
00:58:16.040
your wife like for example me and like my wife for example when i'm like okay uh for example there
00:58:20.900
were a couple of instances in our house where i ordered specific things um usually it's to
00:58:24.980
house it's her kingdom but sometimes she'd be like no no no give me a chance i will refund it i
00:58:29.060
promise you let's buy it and she knows she's here maybe four or five instances where i've bought it
00:58:33.740
she's like actually that was a good idea that was like that was actually a good idea so sometimes yes
00:58:38.160
you're right but in certain instances do i speak to my wife like am i just a ruler over her of course
00:58:44.300
not there's sometimes where she would say an idea where i'm like actually that's interesting so
00:58:49.060
it's important sometimes what you're saying works with your wives and there's nothing wrong nobody
00:58:53.960
can have a go at any equality or something that marriage dynamics it's catered for them as long
00:58:58.920
as it's halal nobody can say it's wrong brilliantly works so yeah just to clarify what methi said for
00:59:06.260
example look i again i'm not saying this to like it's nothing to be praised with something to be ashamed
00:59:09.940
of but i come from a jahili 10 years of jahili 10 years of islam um so in a nutshell there's certain
00:59:14.520
things he says it's true i'm so sorry i don't care if anybody hates it if he didn't speak in
00:59:19.300
certain aspects what i'm saying but when it comes to like being spontaneous etc being a leader
00:59:24.020
most of the times directing and leading i'm so sorry it works and even sisters will testify to that
00:59:29.280
however i believe sometimes methi steps up a notch which i believe it works with his household dynamics
00:59:34.460
which as long as it's halal it is permissible in that instance and we know from the sunnah sunnah
00:59:39.640
that most of the times it's the woman that have to please the husband but what do i mean by that
00:59:45.220
you never see vice versa in the quran or the sunnah this doesn't mean we neglect and we don't what
00:59:51.020
we're seeing is a man has responsibilities which he does he needs to be protecting providing when it
00:59:55.480
comes to her deen emotion taking care of etc but if if i'm telling this outright if a man was to chase
01:00:01.480
in the sense where his objective was how can i make my wife happy i'm so sorry you will never make
01:00:06.240
her happy i'm so sorry the dynamics are this is the dynamics this doesn't mean you don't want to
01:00:11.540
make her happy it's if you try to make her in totality if you said to her what would make you
01:00:15.440
happy and i'll give one evidence in the sense which is what why does allah subhanahu wa ta'ala not
01:00:19.960
mention the quran what you guys are going to get in jannah there's general specific things rivers of
01:00:24.280
honey rivers of water why doesn't allah go into specifics because every single woman is different
01:00:28.640
thank you very much not only that and every woman in our hard wiring is also the same we as men we are
01:00:33.580
told very clearly hur alayn yes look hur alayn and um a few other things in the quran it directly
01:00:39.820
tells us what we want and we all get gassed and happy about it but if allah said to you guys you're
01:00:44.280
going to get a palace with five bedrooms you're going to be thinking and if allah said it's going
01:00:47.900
to be pink color yeah you're going to be thinking but i want a blue color and i want seven bedrooms
01:00:51.720
it's allah has left that to your imagination because your imagination which is unique to you guys it's
01:00:56.680
nothing it's not blameworthy it's unique you your imagination is wild and you want this and that
01:01:01.620
that's fine but we're seeing if we go to the pursuit of what does my wife want to make her happy we are
01:01:06.940
doomed and finished but that's why i say do you understand that that's that's the thing i wanted
01:01:11.200
to add on perhaps maybe there's also the perspective that perhaps allah hasn't actually told uh us as
01:01:16.960
women what are we going to get because it's better than what you're going to get so you might feel
01:01:22.920
okay like in you know it's not good enough i've got i've got something really i feel like it's
01:01:27.280
really important to say one thing i want to touch up one thing i want to touch up on is this though
01:01:30.820
the moment i mentioned that why did it come across as something you want is inferior what you want is
01:01:35.760
more with us it's very simple i can go to the markets fly around in jannah a bit come back to my
01:01:41.960
okay so the thing is with you guys with sisters no no i'm saying the fact that allah is left and you
01:01:46.880
can say i want this and i want that i'm i'm not seeing it in an inferior context i'm seeing we are
01:01:50.880
look would you agree we are men we are direct and sisters are indirect yeah okay would you agree
01:01:56.060
that you guys have hormones that make instability sometimes yeah sometimes all the time that's why
01:02:00.580
i was going to add to what i appreciate you allah bless you timing thank you so sister what we're
01:02:04.520
saying is this because of those factors of hardwiring from your side and our side we're seeing this
01:02:09.400
works that's why i i agree with what he said we deal with what works yeah so i just want to make that
01:02:14.840
disclaimer with mahdi and his wives that works for them happy for them and may allah bless and
01:02:18.660
preserve them nobody to say nothing as long as it's halal but my dynamics with my wife would be
01:02:23.780
totally different but 80 85 of the things that i say it's i would say this it's my opponent meant
01:02:30.160
that they should implement that i agree with you by the way i don't disagree with you okay with regards
01:02:36.280
to what you were saying about your the way you deal with your wives okay i don't i don't disagree
01:02:40.460
but there's a key thing that you didn't mention which i feel like i want to highlight is it's the
01:02:45.520
timing okay you're not like that all the time with your wives you're not speaking to them like that in
01:02:50.420
that manner all the time and for women it's the timing and this is why i say if you understand us
01:02:54.640
then you understand okay sometimes the day she's not in the mood sometimes the day she's in the mood
01:02:58.440
we're very up and down you know like we don't want attention all the time it does it irritates us
01:03:03.460
it drives us mad it's annoying actually let me let me just say let me um just say something about
01:03:09.820
like with uh brother mahadi i've known him for time i love him as a muslim brother i do love him
01:03:15.120
as a muslim brother but i don't agree with some of the things and and the thing is what i say whatever
01:03:19.960
it is his home situation that's his home situation wherever he does it in his house that's his own
01:03:25.700
house and that's how he runs his house and he's happy his wives are happy he's happy but with my
01:03:30.720
thing is if you keep your wife happy and show the love she will never ever cheat on you she'll never
01:03:38.640
ever cheat on you but every keep them happy yeah that's what i mean you said you keep them engaged
01:03:44.020
you said that happiness doesn't matter why does no no they're engaged in happiness they are engaged
01:03:52.100
and that keeps them happy but chasing her happiness it's like me sitting here ladies what would make
01:03:57.720
you happy i couldn't care less i what i care is what keeps them engaged because long term that is
01:04:03.900
what's going to keep her happy what do you mean if i chase her happiness exclusively okay like a tick
01:04:11.940
list okay so she said this that's clear this is a road to destruction no i didn't know no no it's true
01:04:19.880
so he cares about his wife's happiness if women it's true if we if the guy comes to us and he's
01:04:25.260
like he's totally tailored and he's perfect to our emotion at that moment this is why i said it
01:04:29.620
comes back to timing with us women okay good sometimes but the time has changed the time has
01:04:34.160
changed this is why i said you gotta study your wife did you not say okay arguments your husband
01:04:37.480
comes to you and says what would you like will make you happy you would say i want your attention
01:04:42.000
but you remember just before that you said but not all the time yeah do you see why we say we
01:04:47.540
cannot with the reason why is because the moment i give you attention i'll be like wrong timing
01:04:50.880
do you see what we mean that is where we are coming from but but every relationship we need to
01:04:55.720
wrap up we need to understand that's what i'm saying like your wife like even when the time of the
01:05:01.880
month comes and that and your wife is totally different and you pick up on that yeah and the
01:05:06.740
thing is you deal with it in a different way you take more because the way she is yeah so all of
01:05:11.040
these things that you have to understand your wife and if you don't understand that then exactly
01:05:15.960
like when they're about to come on their menstrual cycle this is very important some women suffer
01:05:20.140
from pms okay sorry what's that uh uh yeah pre-menstrual stress and yeah they get depressed
01:05:27.300
they get anxious depressed after the period no before so you'll find that the woman's very agitated
01:05:32.420
she doesn't want you know we're near her sex drive goes down she's like just get out my face
01:05:36.700
why are you in the house go away she's crying for no reason she's sitting in the corner crying we
01:05:41.240
don't know why we're crying seriously that's the reason why which i agree with methi though he's
01:05:47.740
saying if we were still pursue that look before menstrual cycle you got about seven days before
01:05:52.180
that let's add three days three days after it you're looking at 13 days that's needed half a month no
01:05:55.960
but don't you get it you get it sister the time is what you need exactly good it's the timing good yes
01:06:01.180
you the way however you pattern up the situation with your woman it's absolutely fine but you need to
01:06:05.840
know that your woman and what type of woman you're dealing with the same for us women we need to know
01:06:09.600
the type of man we're dealing with yes approach him if we do have issues and we want to approach
01:06:13.340
him if you've got an aggressive man who's a bit arrogant is we have a knock then you don't just
01:06:17.760
tell him something in his face like that he's probably going to lash out so there's a like you
01:06:21.800
said there's a hikmah to do it okay then methi then you we're going to wrap up we've got five
01:06:25.940
minutes let's just quickly wrap up in show um hopefully this episode was a good episode and
01:06:31.480
helps everyone stop doing haram or stop them cheating or you know i mean so hope we all help
01:06:39.740
hussain made an important distinction just now which he asked me so you said so you do want
01:06:46.560
your wives to be happy then and the answer to that is of course i want my wife to live in like some
01:06:50.660
miserable life of depression no ultimately of course i want them to be happy i'm just saying
01:06:56.860
the route to their happiness is not what they tell us it is that's it yeah sorry can i just
01:07:05.100
get you oh sorry sorry i didn't see you though um so closing remarks why women cheat
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um i don't know it depends on the i've heard quite a lot of things to be honest um i didn't
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understand quite a few of the definitions but what i will say this as a man that's married
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i'll take the responsibility i'll take responsibility i'll say just be nice to your wife be kind to her
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respect her provided what she needs and just see how it goes and if it doesn't work out you know
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my opinion would be understand her understanding is key because when you understand her her needs
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then overall you'll be able to just like allow her to be herself she'll be authentic you know
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and so yeah you could just do your thing as a man as a husband thank you sister let's start from
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sister lucky dopamine last statement just in a nutshell advice to men who are watching this when we
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discuss the topic right um um ultimately also obviously this topic of conversation is about why
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women cheat we've already discussed why women cheat but at the end of the day regardless of what
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situation you're in whether they whether you're being emotionally neglected or not this is directed
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to the women you are responsible in the eyes of allah you're going to be held accountable
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regardless of what situation you were put in whether you were emotionally neglected or your physical
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needs weren't met met you are responsible for the act of cheating and that's it you are responsible
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and you need to bear that in mind that one day you're going to stand before allah and you're going
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to have to explain to allah why you decided to cheat on your husband even even though you had other
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outlets like divorce him communicate with him um get other people involved whatever the outlet is
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do not disobey allah that's it do not disobey allah don't go against allah it's very very fundamental
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so this is very key and may allah bless you because it shows accountability because a lot
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of sisters they hate it they blame yeah accountability exactly so may allah bless you
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yeah i just want to go more into the quran and advise people to read the quran because a lot of
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people we're not reading it and yeah honestly if you read the quran there's so much gems in there
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and it's very simple and i feel like allah is very very clear in the statements when it concerns
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men and women how we should treat each other so yeah i just want to say that just read the quran and
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understand what allah's asking of you and how to treat your spouse and inshallah you you will find
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person who's compatible for you and yeah you got your little thing going on inshallah so to kind of
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conclude on the question why women cheat women cheat because um there's been a fundamental there's been
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a fundamental neglect of their feminine needs point but that is not an excuse to as a female to go out
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and treat your husband in such a way if you feel that you have come to that point where thoughts are
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crossing your mind where there's interaction that's you know started where you've disconnected actually
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because that's the starting point that's where it goes downhill but you've disconnected from your
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husband then you need to take responsibility to action the solution whether that is you seeking
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support of external parties to help you navigate and return to the marriage in the way that you
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hoped it would be at the beginning or you make a decision to um seek whatever you define as your
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happiness if you're not finding it in that marriage and um deal with the marriage in an
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integrous way whether you decide to stay in it or leave it you need to maintain your integrity
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integrity and that comes down to your akhlaq and the deen um and don't compromise that um at the
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end of the at the end of the day alhamdulillah islam has given us solutions it's given us the right to
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talaq for reasons such as in lack of intimacy you know which actually other religions don't provide
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um judaism you're not allowed to get divorced yeah catholicism until very you know in some countries
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that's the reason henry henry the eight was killing his wives because he couldn't divorce them he was
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like let me get rid of them yeah you know um we're in a country and in countries where we we have those
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options especially so you know you have rights and what all i'm gonna conclude with is don't disrespect
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someone else at the cost of your happiness it should just be seeking out your happiness
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and being respectful yes brothers and sisters may allah bless our honorable guests and no she
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no she we started with her first yeah we started with you first didn't we finish yeah we did her
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first and then you yeah she was first you guys were second third fourth yeah yeah so um inshallah
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brothers sisters so guys in a nutshell i believe this wholeheartedly alhamdulillah and you don't need
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to pay a thousand pounds uh i'm joking so in a nutshell guys if you are the man you are fearing
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allah god conscious high value man to us is not what the red pill says you're a god conscious man who
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fears allah who who cares about the akhirah of yourself and your partner um you are a good man
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a a man who is vocal emotionally in different ways your wife hears uh the love and feels the love
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inshallah i believe brothers and sisters your wife would never ever in there the way they are created
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they are monogamous by nature they would never ever look at another man so be the best version you can
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be in the sight of allah and make sure allah subhanahu wa ta'ala comes first and when you become that
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man alhamdulillah don't worry about this and if it happens that's between her and the lord and she'll be
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accounted for that and the next episode which we'll do inshallah maybe next month is why men are
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disloyal which will be a whole topic in itself because this required a whole topic in itself
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till next time brothers and sisters from bitty truth may allah bless our honorable sisters and
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our honorable brothers for coming here and uh their take inshallah if you want to apply on the panel
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