Ali Dawah - January 21, 2024
WIFE VS MOTHER IN-LAW - PICK A SIDE! - EP 21 || BITTER TRUTH SHOW
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about how to deal with your mother-in-law and how to keep them in check, especially when they are the one who gave birth to you and the other one is the one that has given birth to your children. How do you deal with this dynamic?
Transcript
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It's actually, it's the fear of, they think that when wife comes to the house, they will take the son away.
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You don't need to go talking to your mother about every little issue you've got with your wife.
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Because no matter what, that mother is going to hate your wife then.
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She's going to think, oh, she's manipulating my son and vice versa.
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However, I need to understand that my husband needs time with his mum.
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There's cases where women go into the household as a wife and they have already had this mindset
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It's a red flag to see that you're going to take your mother's side when your wife clearly on the right side of the deen.
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I don't think there's anything the son can do about it.
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If it's a mummy's boy, I genuinely believe that that is because of the mother.
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If your mum comes and tells you or oppresses your wife, you respect your mum.
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But you respect, you say, mum, no, because Allah tells us in the Quran, speak the truth, even if it's against yourself or kin.
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It's your responsibility as a man to keep the woman folk, be it your mum, in check in a respectful way, both of them.
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So as a kid, I'm sure most Bengalis were, I was beat all the time for no reason.
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Because that stays with you to an extent when you start resenting your parents for it.
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When you commit sins outside my brother or my sister, you will see it in your children, you will see it in your car.
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I'm telling you, bro, you will see the consequences of your sin, ripple effects everywhere.
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I find it difficult to wrap my head around why you would be jealous of your son having a wife.
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As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh, brothers and sisters and dear friends.
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Welcome to another episode of The Bitter Truth Show.
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We've got five sisters, alhamdulillah, and we've got three brothers here.
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And I think a lot of people from my circle, etc., when it comes to dealing with the mother-in-law.
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So a lot of brothers get stuck, they're like, listen, you know, and we know the mother-in-law and the daughter-in-law, there's disputes, etc.
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Because one is the one who gave birth to you, the other one is the one that's given birth to your children.
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So it's a very hard dynamic, and a lot of people want, like, you know, how can we go about this?
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So in a nutshell, I don't know if you guys have any experience.
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Like, I don't know if you guys have been married or not, for that matter.
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But, yes, how do you guys, for example, have you ever experienced mother-in-laws being high expectations of, like, you know, like, you're a slave, like, she owns you.
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Like, you're, like, servitude, like, you're her slave.
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Have you ever witnessed this in families or et cetera?
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And it's kind of mean to do that to a person that's an outsider.
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And they don't, they don't, on top of that, like, they don't want to have that conversation as well.
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All right, sisters, any, like, have you guys come across this, like...
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I think seeing a lot of friends that have been married and stuff, the things that they, from what they told me,
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it actually, the whole talk of, you know, going into another family, being with your mother-in-law,
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it derives from the fact that sometimes the mother-in-law is actually, it's the fear of,
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they think that when their wife comes in, when wife comes to the house, they will take the son away.
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And when they say that, what they mean is it's no longer the mother-in-law giving, you know,
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And now it's, like, another person is in the household and she is his priority as well.
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So I think you've got the derives from the thought, again, of the fact that it's just pure fear that the son is going to be taken away.
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It's because she's built her entire world around her son.
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And so, like, the idea of another woman, like, taking her son away, it's like an abandonment issue kind of thing as well.
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So I've seen that, like, a lot in, like, the South Asian community.
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And it doesn't have to purely mean that, you know, the mother-in-law is evil.
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There's cases where women go into the household as a wife and they have already have this mindset that,
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Like, you know, she's going to do this to me, she's going to do this to me.
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But if you go with the mindset and you don't even know how the woman is, how she is,
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or how she might be the complete opposite of what the mindset you have,
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and you're going into that marriage thinking, she's going to treat me like this,
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but it's going to affect how you function within that marriage and you go into that household because of your mindset.
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So my question to you then would be, how do you deal with a mother-in-law like that?
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I personally wouldn't know, but I do feel like you have to, a man has to have that balance.
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It's like, you know, they say you should never scold, you should never shout at your wife in front of your mother
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and you should never shout at your mother in front of your wife.
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So that's like, you know, when you find something wrong, say your wife has done something wrong,
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if you say it, you know, to her, if you say it to her in front of your mother-in-law,
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she, this is, again, this is scenarios that we've heard.
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Like, I don't know if you've seen, but on Twitter, there are crazy, like, you know,
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stuff that people write and all these situations.
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And it's like, you just have to kind of like find the balance between how to handle your mom and how to handle your wife.
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Would you move in with your, like, and live with your mother?
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Like, after, like, after you, you and your husband are new, you're basically, you and your husband are newly married.
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Number one, the first dynamic is the mother-in-law and the daughter-in-law cannot maybe get on, for that matter.
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And to me, that's, like, how the dynamics work because, bro, that is crazy, bro.
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It's the man's responsibility at the end of the day to make sure, like, the mother-in-law and the wife have got a good relationship.
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One thing I'll advise is if you have any disputes with your wife or your mother or anything like that, never combine the two.
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You don't need to go talking to your mother about every little issue you've got with your wife.
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Because no matter what, that mother is going to hate your wife then.
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She's going to think, oh, she's manipulating my son.
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I've seen the daughter, sorry, the wife, hating the mother-in-law because of what the husband's told her.
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This is a basic principle that I mentioned in other episodes as well, yeah.
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I have a very strict, me personally, I strictly, strictly never, ever tell my mom the disputes that I have with my wife.
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My mom will come and say to me, what kind of a son are you?
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And I'm like, mom, this is between me and my wife.
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Hey, if I tell you she did A, you're going to remember, she's treating my son like this.
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And it can be something that you're making up in your head.
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I never, ever tell my mom till this day, bro, ever.
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I'm like, I just, like, I don't argue with my wife.
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And then my mom's, I'm like, oh, allow me, man.
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And to me, it's like, that principle is very important because some marriage counselors say
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that the biggest reason why divorces happen is because you get involved.
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And so I'm in principle, sisters, again, you guys are emotional.
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You get your, like, family members involved immediately.
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The topic at hand is not getting in-laws involved, but the mother-in-law.
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And to now live with them, Aki, how could you, how could you live out of a fight and
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I'll give you a bit of information of, like, why South Asians believe in, but, like, their
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Our conclusion, like, was that they're not obliged to.
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But a lot of people do it because they're such a tight-knit community anyway.
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Like, when I grew up, I lived with about three different families.
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So they've taken that, they've taken that mentality and either ran with it and I was passed
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How many Asian boys do you know that are saying, oh, you need to live with my family, my parents
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Even if they can afford to live out, they want their mother to be close to one that
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You know, your wife, she says she wants something, but then your mother-in-law, like, she disputes
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So, Islamically, I think, actually, I did a bit of research on this.
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So, once you get married, your wife should be the bigger priority than your mother.
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So, for me, if I got married, right, I wouldn't mind if my wife lived with my parents, because
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I know my parents are going to treat her right.
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I know what kind of people they're like, but I know some of the Bengali parents, they just
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don't, I know they won't be able to treat their, like, daughter-in-law well.
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Because they've got, like, a superior mindset, someone coming.
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I would say the foundation and the base should be respect.
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So, as a wife, to understand your husband's mother's position.
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However, Islamically, she has no rights over you.
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So, just to be able to understand that, you know what, this is my mother-in-law, spend,
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even if, for example, I'm going to speak more about the fact that they don't get on.
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Even if I wasn't to get on with my mother-in-law, I respect and love her.
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However, I need to understand that my husband lost time with his mom.
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So, even if me and my mother-in-law weren't to get on, and alhamdulillah, me and my mother-in-law are fine.
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But if we weren't to be getting along, I would still respect her for that.
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And I would, because at the end of the day, I can only be in control of my actions and how I act.
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So, you have to understand that everyone is an individual.
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But 100%, the responsibility lies on the husband to create a strong boundary that your mom is not to speak to your wife crazy.
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She's not supposed, I don't really agree with living with your parents-in-law in the first place.
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But she's not supposed to get involved into your relationship.
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It's your relationship, it's your marriage, your contract between you, her and Allah.
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I find the whole, like, jealousy thing, like, the jealousy among, like, mothers and sons a bit weird, personally.
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But when it comes to, like, evil mother-in-laws and mommies boys, when it comes to mommies boys, it's never the son's fault.
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It's always the mothers who entice their sons to make certain decisions.
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But I've always found that it is the mother's fault when it comes down to men.
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It's just because, like, the mum's always in his business asking him what's going on.
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I just, I find it difficult to wrap my head around why you would be jealous of your son having a wife.
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It's a deep-rooted psychological thing where the husband was not as great of a husband to her.
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So she, I guess, yeah, she found that in her son.
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And that's why she gets that deep connection with her son.
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So anything that comes, it threatens her relationship because, you know, her husband wasn't a great, you know, a great husband.
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Didn't give her the emotional support or whatever it is that she needed.
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So that's why she's making that up with her son.
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But they don't realise they're doing that, though.
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I think it's like when girls have daddy issues because they crave that.
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And the thing is, I think, so I was going to touch upon this.
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I think that's where it stems from, is that the husband is not in their life and maybe they've divorced.
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And there's a fear as well at the end of the day because a little woman comes to this realisation,
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which those who initiate divorce, because you need to understand your kids are going to get married.
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That's when you're going to realise you're with your cat or your dog.
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So the thing is here is that this is when the realisation hits a little woman.
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Because whatever for a reason, I'm seeing there might be valid reasons,
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but then what happens is when the father's at the picture and they're lonely now,
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and now the son getting married is terrifying to them.
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And especially, imagine, just imagine for yourself as you'll put yourself in their shoes as well, yeah?
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Because one day you guys are going to do it, yeah?
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Whenever I talk about these issues, like Winnebys feminism or this kind of stuff,
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The moment when these sisters come and talk about,
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Their whole demeanor is like, oh yeah, I'm going to have a son one day.
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I'm like, yeah, imagine, would you want the wife to do that?
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You guys are going to be mothering laws one day, yeah?
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Imagine being at home alone and your son is getting married, yeah?
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That's why I see some of the sisters are smirking, yeah?
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It's because now it's like, oh my gosh, actually, that's going to be me one day.
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So, imagine it's frightening, but at the same time, there should be boundaries.
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Basically, I don't know if you guys know, but the problem to the Ummah,
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So, you have Gen X, the Millennials, and then Gen Z.
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When the Gen X, they don't solve their problems, it's going to cater,
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it's going to go to move on to the worlds of the Millennials.
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And when they don't solve their problems, so now you have two problems,
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For example, just because, yes, within the frame of respect,
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But just to say, because no matter where the toxicity is coming from,
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from a cultural standpoint or just from a purely attachment side,
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it doesn't mean she has a right to just walk over all over the sun.
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Everyone has a fear, because it's Allah-legislated,
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not man-legislated laws that we've been prescribed upon.
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Every human, every position, no matter father, mother, nephew, niece,
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you have your own position, you only say to a certain extent.
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And the way you say it and the way you go about and do it is very different.
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coming to the Sun-in-Law is that he needs to know what he should and should not do.
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And to be honest, I'm not going to say he's not ready for marriage.
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It's a red flag to see that you're going to take your mother's side
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when your wife is clearly on the right side of the deed.
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Because Kalimut al-Uliya, Allah's plan is higher for us in every avenue of life.
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There's no go away about doing it this way or that way.
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It's interesting you mentioned whether the father or the husband would be absent or not.
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I think that actually makes it easier for the man to become the man of the house,
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Me, personally, as everyone knows, I live with my grandma.
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Well, yeah, because I live with my grandma, I won't move out.
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The older she gets, the more she's going to have to be looked after.
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So I'm going to stay at mine, and then it will be mine after.
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But the only reason I'm able to do that is because my grandfather is dead.
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The lack of fathers, you'd think, I guess it's either or.
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Like, my family's never been like that, but I know other families.
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But it's difficult to have an opinion on it because it's quite a taboo thing to have.
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Because you know they're not thinking about their sons in strange ways like that.
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It's just you've got something, yeah, as you said, there's something not quite right there.
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But I don't think, I don't think there's anything the son can do about it.
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If you're, if you, if it's a mummy's boy, I genuinely believe that that is because of the mother.
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You know, he, at the end of the day, he's still an individual.
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You are, you are still, you are, if you get married, you have to fulfill the rights of your wife.
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Okay, let me just change, all right, cool, that's true.
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So he needs to, like, somehow, put a backbone and stand up for himself.
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If you're married and your mother, your mother's deciding how your marriage works, where she lives, that's, that's ridiculous.
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You should discover Islam, research it, find out why am I like this?
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I need to change it because I'm never going to have a successful relationship if my mother dictates everything.
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And another thing as well, I want to say, for devil's advocate, I don't believe in this, but like, I think sons sort of value their mother so much because of the hadith.
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Why is it that heaven lays at your mother's feet?
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But a lot of boys will use, they'll use that as an excuse, not an excuse, they'll say, you know, this is why we value our mother so much.
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And sometimes I value the mother more than the wife because they think we're going to go like, you know, we treat my mother right.
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So your mother is a gate to Jenna, how you treat her.
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But then there's, there's a thin line between, I get what you're saying, but I do feel like some of these men, and I have examples of this.
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Because they really are mummies, boys, like, oh, I'm going to go to my mum.
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Or, you know, they start bringing examples of their mum.
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And then on top of that, you, you are now like, just my mum, my mum, comparing me to your mum.
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Sure, but also, I have an example of this girl that I know.
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Her mother-in-law would call her and be like, you need to put makeup on.
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Oh, you know, you've not really done your hair.
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You're not really, you know, you have to do this.
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Just overstepping boundaries and just being all up in my business when you really don't have business up in my business.
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I know like a lot of relatives, at least five or six, have gone through divorces because of the mother-in-law.
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And let me say one thing, let me say one thing.
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By the way, they don't because of the mother-in-law.
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It's the husband's duty to communicate with the daughter what's expected and what she expects.
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So I had this, I'm not going to say who it was, but I had like a, let's say, family friend.
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She doesn't wear the hijab or anything like that.
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But her mother-in-law, like, demanded, you have to wear the hijab.
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And then she asked her husband, like, we never agreed this.
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Like, you never said I was supposed to be a servant for essentially your mother.
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She only needs to care about her own family, not extended family.
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If it's not, Islamically, she has a right to ask for her own place.
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If she sees that the mother's alone, it's her choice that she has mercy, you know.
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If she said, it should be clear and say, look, I have a mom.
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We'll try our best at the dynamics where, you know, you're not in each other's face that much, etc.
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It is hard, but you know, it's, you know what it's like.
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There's an ayah in the Quran which is very interesting.
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Allah says in the Quran, the good deed and the evil deed does not be equal.
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And then it says, Allah orders the faithful believers to be patient at the time of anger and excuse those who treat them badly.
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It says, then verily, he between whom you and there is animosity, enmity, as you will become good friends.
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So this village, Allah is saying, good and evil is not the same.
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Repel evil with which that is good, that you might have animosity, for example, between the mother-in-law and the daughter-in-law, that you might dislike each other.
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So me, from my personal experience, when it comes to this stuff, I realize boundaries are very important.
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My mom, for example, it's a little bit personal, but I'm comfortable mentioning it.
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So genuinely, I don't want people, these things break their marriages.
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That to me, for example, I can remember once my wife, I think she made rogues.
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And it took her a whole day that he was like, and she wanted to do it, yeah?
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And actually, to be honest, even if she didn't want to do it, if I ask her, she should probably do it, yeah?
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So the point is this, because some people are like, yeah, I have to ask, yeah?
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But the point is this, and red pill is nonsense also.
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So what happened is, she was really, because she's doing so.
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So what I said to her, I said, I'll do the dishes.
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I wanted to, because I used to work in a Bengali restaurant, and I used to watch the dishes, yeah?
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So I don't really mind, I like cleaning cars and stuff like that, it's just probably of mine.
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Anyways, so I said, I'm going to do the dishes.
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Now, my mum was like, get out of the kitchen, yeah?
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She was like, get out of the kitchen, because my mum was very, like, we've been growing up like that, do you get it?
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My mum, she could, she would spoon feed me to this table.
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But I had to communicate to her, and I said, mum, listen, I want to do the dishes.
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What you're doing now, because the thing is, like, if my wife understood, because she's speaking to me in the language,
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but she might feel a bit hurtful, like, you know, what's wrong if he's healthy, did you get it?
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No, it's because to her tradition, she's seen that, like that.
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So now, I had to, I was in a real-life situation, I was like, oh my gosh, I need to, the balance, do this, you get what I'm trying to say?
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So I spoke in my language, and I said, mum, we'll talk about it later, yeah?
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I said, let me just finish, we'll talk about it later, yeah?
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So I'd done the dishes, I helped her with the dishes, et cetera, because she was telling me, like, my mum was saying, go, I'll do it.
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So she wasn't saying, let your wife do it, she's saying, I'll do it.
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So I spoke to Alaya, and I said, mum, you need to understand, I have a dynamic with my wife.
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Your dynamic may have been different, my dynamic is totally different.
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If you get involved, all it's going to do is going to, and I'm happy where I am, don't get involved, yeah?
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And with all due respect, I had to, like, break it down, because mum, I don't want to hurt her feelings, you get it?
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So I was in a real-life situation where I had to break that down, and even if my wife kind of sensed it,
00:24:39.200
I was like, no, I know, she was just asking me about, you know, I just had to make up something like, yeah, in Turkey, you know, something about something else, yeah?
00:24:46.340
So I had to mention it, and that's when I realised the dynamics that I need to work with.
00:24:50.640
And that worked with me, and my mum, sometimes I have those tendencies again, where I'm doing something, where I'm helping my wife,
00:24:56.260
she just doesn't want me to be, like, in the kitchen.
00:24:58.540
It's not that she's saying, let your wife do it, she's like, I'll do it, you go sit down.
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And I'm like, mum, no, you relax, you've come to our house.
00:25:04.820
That's because of how she was brought up, so you can't even blame your mum to an extent.
00:25:09.320
Exactly, communication is a must, and sometimes, like, for example, I see in families, I speak to brothers as well, they're like, how do I deal with this?
00:25:16.340
And I'm like, one brother said to me that, it's not that the mother-in-law was transgressing,
00:25:21.380
but there were certain things that she was doing that was a little bit hurtful to the wife, but the wife was patient.
00:25:26.780
I'm so sorry to cut you, but there's an example of some mothers-in-law really cause fit now.
00:25:39.700
It's feeling weird, and other sisters, cousins, and other family members are feeling some type of way,
00:25:45.200
because, you know, the mother has said, oh, she's dirty, or she doesn't do this, and, oh, you know,
00:25:51.940
I saw my son cleaning the dishes, and he was doing this, and she doesn't even do this, you know,
00:25:58.740
and then the family are now looking at the wife sideways, and she can't now build a relationship with other family members.
00:26:13.860
One thing that I learned from the experience as well with the brothers as well is that very suddenly...
00:26:19.980
So one thing that me personally, Aki, is when I spoke to my wife, I mean, my mum,
00:26:23.600
and I told her, I said, mum, please, I'm just asking, with this stuff, please don't, please don't, yeah?
00:26:34.320
And I realised my mum was like, okay, I'll just leave you and your wife, you guys.
00:26:39.160
So I realised my mum, now my mum understood as a son, I put a little boundary in place in the best possible way,
00:26:47.460
Now my mum, like, not that my mum, I don't want to get into details with my mum and my wife's relation,
00:26:56.320
My mum would be less, she wouldn't come, even if she sees it, she doesn't say nothing.
00:26:59.900
So as a man, you have to, it's your responsibility.
00:27:04.320
As a man, to keep the woman folk, be it your mum, in check in a respectful way.
00:27:13.480
If you don't do that, there has to be accountability.
00:27:24.800
If I let my mum, I swear to God, I would have been a mummy's boy today if I let my mum do...
00:27:45.460
I just asked her, what would you do if me and my missus had like a dispute of some sort?
00:27:50.540
She's like, no, that's only for you two to discuss.
00:27:54.680
Apart from that, she's not going to get involved.
00:28:00.220
But touching on the point of what the sister said with toxic, like gossiping and stuff like that.
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It's so prominent in our culture, South Asian culture.
00:28:14.220
Like little gossips that half times, they're not even true.
00:28:16.900
The Bengali sisters can probably like say the same thing.
00:28:20.560
Most times like the wife will come and tell the husband like, look, your mom's like, she's playing games.
00:28:29.200
And the guy will be like, dare you speak about my mom like that?
00:28:36.580
Like they really hold their mom to a really high standard in a very weird way.
00:28:44.100
And then if you, there's also the, if you're a mummy's boy, it comes in, it comes hand in hand with like these guys expecting their wife to be exactly like their mom.
00:28:55.380
Because you're thinking, why do you want to get married too?
00:28:56.880
Because if you're a mummy's boy, you've most likely been babied and like you've been, you've just like, you know, sat in your room while your mom cleaned your clothes and took after you, after you.
00:29:06.020
And then they expect their wives to do the same thing.
00:29:08.880
And when the wife doesn't do this, when she doesn't do the same thing, they're like, my mom doesn't do this.
00:29:15.040
So let me ask you guys, let me ask you guys a question.
00:29:20.180
So let's say you found someone, yeah, you're getting married to him.
00:29:29.500
Would you be okay with them moving in with you or?
00:29:38.100
I will come personally to look after your parents every single day.
00:29:46.660
I will look after them, help them, clean their feet, whatever the hell you want me to do.
00:29:59.880
60 years of life, 70 years of life, and now they want it in full.
00:30:05.500
In Islam, we are not supposed to burden one another.
00:30:11.000
I'm not saying I wouldn't look after them, of course.
00:30:16.660
We can live closely enough, and I'll go and look after them.
00:30:20.320
I'm not inclined to live in the household with them and become the slave, essentially.
00:30:40.940
A lot of women will want their own privacy to walk around without a hijab on, for example.
00:30:44.520
When their father-in-law is there or brothers of the father-in-law is fine.
00:30:47.460
I know, but for example, I've got a little brother, right?
00:30:50.020
So if my wife moved in with me, she'd have to wear the attire, wouldn't she?
00:30:56.760
It's true, but you know which comes to our point, which is interesting, is that, okay,
00:31:10.100
Because we're talking about the mother-in-law, but you guys are going to be mothers as well
00:31:16.520
Because this is an issue that you guys are going to face.
00:31:18.720
You know, it's going to be you one day with your daughter-in-law.
00:31:21.100
So in that aspect, dynamics are going to change.
00:31:23.180
You're going to be like, oh my gosh, I was talking about myself all that time.
00:31:26.440
So what would you guys say about your, imagine if you had sons, how would you nurture them
00:31:31.480
and teach them the dynamic to understand when that time comes?
00:31:37.060
What I would first and foremost say is, for children, they're creatures of imitation.
00:31:45.260
So they don't actually think for themselves until a certain age.
00:31:49.900
So for me personally, the best way to teach them to really truth be a strong man is through
00:31:59.740
You need to first find it in a man and the man's, the man can model that aspect of it
00:32:07.220
and you as a woman can give like that emotional support, teach them empathy, teach them, you
00:32:12.740
know, the emotion, the things that we, that is important.
00:32:16.340
The life skills like cooking and cleaning and doing the laundry.
00:32:24.960
Or you can, you can say words, but they don't really mean much other than showing it.
00:32:32.700
I think I would teach my son to, you know, he needs to have a say in certain things.
00:32:41.880
A lot of parents I see that, you know, we're talking about mommy's voice, right?
00:32:45.480
One of the reasons why they can't stand up for themselves in front of their mothers is
00:32:55.500
If you teach your child, your son from, you know, when, from the age where he's, he can,
00:33:00.760
he has the ability to understand that he now has a say in the decisions that he makes and
00:33:07.420
When he grows up, he will have those boundaries.
00:33:10.580
He will be able to stand up to his mother and say that, you know, mom, this is how I want
00:33:16.920
But if he's not taught from a young age, from when he has the ability that he can have a
00:33:22.880
say, he can have an opinion and he can have a mindset.
00:33:28.100
You as a mother need to make him feel comfortable enough for him to come and say that to you from
00:33:34.260
If that doesn't happen and it just continuously goes on for when he becomes an adult, that's
00:33:40.380
So if you have the son and like, how would you train him?
00:33:47.600
Cause at the end of the day, you know, you, you know, if you treat him in a way where you
00:33:51.860
do everything for him, you just end up being that mom's boy that you want to get.
00:33:54.780
You know, I would give my, uh, my son responsibilities from the get go, um, financial responsibilities
00:34:01.360
in, in the sense that I would give him pocket money to go, uh, like, let's say we go like
00:34:06.340
food shopping together, you like, and I'll give him the money, uh, you pay for it.
00:34:10.780
It'll give him like a sense of responsibility, um, uh, doing things around the house.
00:34:16.580
Um, let's say if he has younger siblings, you know, uh, making sure they're okay, giving
00:34:21.260
him a sense of responsibility, which is going to make him feel like a man from the get go.
00:34:25.720
Because I feel like, um, for a man, what makes, uh, what makes a man, uh, a man is, um, having
00:34:33.400
that responsibility and eventually you start to form your own opinion, your own identity.
00:34:40.620
That's interesting because you see what you're doing here.
00:34:46.380
Studies show that a, you know, a single father, uh, does a better job raising, uh, than a single
00:34:53.340
mother, because you need to understand, there's some studies that show this, yeah.
00:34:56.440
Reason being is, for example, when a woman gets divorced, she needs to adapt or take on masculine
00:35:03.620
But you think about it, the opposite doesn't really happen.
00:35:05.220
You don't see a man who's a single father becoming feminine.
00:35:07.500
So it shows that we need masculinity to survive.
00:35:19.140
Uh, but trying your best not to, because the detriments, the after effects are quite drastic
00:35:23.740
It's important as a, because what that means is, again, as a mother, you need to take on these
00:35:31.440
Now, there's going to be a certain point, because I see a lot of people where the son's
00:35:37.980
I'm going to, he's grown, he's bigger than his mom.
00:35:44.820
You know, actually, I'll tell you something very interesting, yeah.
00:35:48.860
So, my wife, and I'm giving this from personal experience, because, by Allah, the only reason
00:35:53.140
I'm doing this, because I see for myself, it works.
00:35:57.200
Is that, my wife would call my little daughter, like, change the nappy, yeah.
00:36:02.960
Bro, the moment I walk in the room, and I just say, ladies and gentlemen, like, lay down,
00:36:09.400
She, my wife, last week, she looked, she was upset.
00:36:12.260
She was like, because she was like, she had a mouth drop.
00:36:19.880
Bro, all I did was look after her and said, listen, up, lay down, yeah.
00:36:23.920
Bro, she was putting her legs in the nappy, bro.
00:36:29.340
And I just said, you need to understand the dynamics is the rahma, but also with me,
00:36:44.180
Because we have so much burden on our shoulders.
00:36:49.460
If I don't show him the hardship now, he's going, this world is going to destroy.
00:36:54.580
So that's the reason why one of the things we need to teach our sons,
00:37:04.420
And if your mom comes and tells you or oppresses your wife,
00:37:07.400
you respect your mom, but you respect your mom.
00:37:10.040
No, because Allah tells us in the Quran, speak the truth,
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Meaning to us, haqq is more beloved than my mom, my dad, I don't care.
00:37:20.080
In a gentle way, you say, mom, I'm so sorry, you're here,
00:37:24.040
You're oppressing my wife, and this is not fair.
00:37:28.060
I'm telling you, once, twice, third time, your mom's going to say,
00:37:36.780
I've gone through this time and time again at home,
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But the way I'll bring up my son will be quite harsh.
00:37:48.560
Trust me, I don't think you're going to like it.
00:37:52.760
If I had a son, I'd be boxing and I'd stop punching his ribs slowly.
00:38:01.480
I think teaching your son to be mentally tough...
00:38:27.560
Yeah, no, I think the father figure is so important, you know.
00:38:31.120
Yeah, because the father is the one that enforces the discipline, 100%.
00:38:43.540
But my nan will try and tell them what to do, and it just doesn't work.
00:38:48.980
She treats them like an actual human being, and it's too nice.
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I only have to say things once, just one time, and they do as they're told.
00:38:57.920
For me, bringing up my son, it will be completely offensive.
00:39:10.660
I'll be harsh on both my children, because the world is a very difficult place, a harsh
00:39:14.560
and horrible place, and that's the reality of it.
00:39:17.440
So, I'm not really going to get into how I'm disciplined, because God knows I'm disciplined.
00:39:25.340
So, I don't want to give, say, the wrong things to people listening and say, yeah, that's
00:39:30.800
a good idea, when in reality, I'll be doing it.
00:39:35.860
One of the things, one of the punishments here, if you do anything wrong, if you swear,
00:39:39.060
if you cuss, if you don't eat your dinner, I will make you sit against the wall, and
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you will kneel against the wall for a full minute.
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And you will do that every single time you swear, and you will not swear ever again by
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the time you're, like, by the time you're a teenager, and you will learn this.
00:39:55.100
My kids, you know you're going to watch this, maybe in, like, 10 years, yeah?
00:39:59.860
And just remember, all them times you spent against the wall, yeah?
00:40:03.280
You could have prevented, because you didn't have to swear.
00:40:11.460
My question would be, where did they learn to swear in the first place?
00:40:19.880
I was, I was thinking about electrocuting there.
00:40:31.980
I think, that's what everyone was talking about, maybe the symptoms, but the root is that
00:40:39.820
When you have this, like, um, toxic type of attachment to your kinfolk or your children
00:40:46.340
or anybody, it's going to ruin you if it's to the extent, I know it's triggering for
00:40:51.460
the, for females who are thinking of becoming mothers because it's heart corroding.
00:41:01.520
Because look, sometimes I believe that we don't fear the day of judgment as we're supposed
00:41:10.600
How, how you, however you see some danger in front of you or maybe a stabbing, it's the
00:41:16.600
Your mother is not going to be, it's not going to have a lawyer.
00:41:20.240
Uh, uh, your, your mom's not going to act as your lawyer.
00:41:26.680
So you having these boundaries, which are understandable, meaning that a mother is supposed to,
00:41:31.500
you know, nurture her child for generations to come.
00:41:34.660
Meaning, if this, if the first son messes up and to, to be honest, in terms of punishment,
00:41:40.520
I know punishments can be, look, sometimes I got licks.
00:41:48.360
Anything that used to be in my mom's hand, she could throw at me.
00:41:57.560
My mother is adab, his akhlaat, where he carries himself.
00:42:04.480
Just because, no, just, no, that's what I'm saying.
00:42:06.560
Hitting doesn't always mean it's going to work.
00:42:09.380
What I mean by this, if you think that you're going to hit your children and they're going to fear Allah because of that,
00:42:15.220
There's been plenty of people who got licks more than me.
00:42:18.160
I know people, I've, to the extent, I never got bruises.
00:42:21.160
But it was that people got bruises more than me.
00:42:24.140
They do anything and everything in the world that comes to them.
00:42:26.340
So, you giving your son or daughter licks or stuff like that, it's not going to cut it.
00:42:31.680
You need to see, you need to analyze how your child actually ticks.
00:42:35.260
Meaning that not every child is going to tick the same way.
00:42:38.080
Even within your household, well, his mother's the same.
00:42:43.580
Even in the same house, every child has his own personality.
00:42:47.080
Allah has created that person with his own risk.
00:42:53.460
It means your parents, how they treat you as well.
00:42:55.160
So, combating that thing of, you know, just because that's my son or that's my whatever,
00:43:01.320
it does not mean you have every legitimate way of saying, this is what you can say and this is what you can't say.
00:43:06.820
No, as a son, you're supposed to analyze that, you know, I'm getting older now.
00:43:12.180
Parents, alhamdulillah, have good health and, you know, they will die just maybe naturally.
00:43:16.980
May Allah bless you and give you a good ending.
00:43:19.800
And there's a reality where the current situation where a lot, a lot of people, where they're young, millennial,
00:43:27.980
And one of the, you know, to contextualize, but I don't think we can contextualize enough,
00:43:31.780
is that the issues is that we don't, so in terms of the late 90s, there was the epidemic of AIDS and stuff like that.
00:43:39.180
And the ummah had to deal with, you know, stuff like that.
00:43:42.340
But now, I believe in 2030, I think half of the population will be suffering from depression.
00:43:47.640
That's a factor that has to be catered to, meaning that a lot of people who are young,
00:43:53.560
can they sustain that long period of time in terms of, you know, being that support for their parents?
00:43:59.740
If you can do it from a place where, you know, I'll dedicate this time, I'll dedicate this time,
00:44:05.100
then that's perfect because every avenue of your life has a haqq and you need to fulfill that to your end.
00:44:12.620
For me personally, if I had a son, that's not my business.
00:44:22.240
And my business is to teach him, to push him to be mentally tough, to have discipline,
00:44:30.200
to do his bed in the morning, to fast when he gets to a good age.
00:44:35.540
To nurture him, but also to know that I'm his mum, I'm not his girlfriend, I'm not his, I'm not dating him.
00:44:46.940
I have two daughters, I want them to see me like I'm their friend.
00:44:50.100
And so anything they can tell me, you know, I want to be that confidant for my children.
00:44:57.620
So if he was to get married or, and I think it's actually different because I'm going to be a mother-in-law to men, you know?
00:45:05.960
So it's like, I don't know how that dynamic is going to be when my daughter brings a man home to me.
00:45:13.820
Am I going to treat him like my son or, you know, like it's a different,
00:45:18.320
because we always think of mother-in-laws with a daughter or a woman,
00:45:23.180
but we don't really think of it from the other perspective as well.
00:45:27.780
So am I going to be extra grilling to the men that come?
00:45:36.120
But I know for a fact that if my daughters were to bring me a man, I would be really looking out for the man's discipline.
00:45:48.760
I would want that in place before any man just takes my daughter just like that, you know?
00:45:54.740
But yeah, for my son, it would be a very tough time at home.
00:46:06.600
But I would want him to be strong mentally, to prepare.
00:46:09.600
Because the Chinese at the moment, they're not just sitting there just doing la-di-da fairy tales.
00:46:15.420
And the Russians as well, they are teaching their sons to be men.
00:46:19.940
They're also going through the biggest genocide known to mankind, the Chinese and Russia.
00:46:26.320
I think they're too strict and they're not strict enough.
00:46:33.080
But just in regards to the difference between China and the UK, we're basically fairies compared to them.
00:46:42.640
Kids are coming out as non-binary at the age of like two, three, this and that.
00:46:47.780
But there is something called too much discipline.
00:46:51.560
So as a kid, I'm sure most Bengalis were, I was beat all the time for no reason.
00:46:58.900
And I think there comes to a point where it's like, Alhamdulillah, I don't like that anymore.
00:47:02.960
But that stays with you to an extent when you start resenting your parents for it.
00:47:06.920
So there needs to be some sort of balance of discipline.
00:47:09.100
To be honest, I don't think I'd ever physically hit my child.
00:47:13.060
I think you can hit him on the back or something like that, right?
00:47:23.580
You know, like hitting and slapping your child and belting your child.
00:47:28.560
But in school, in school, in school, it's like, yeah, I'll get mad.
00:47:35.620
It was like a coping mechanism to laugh about it.
00:47:38.000
Like, not only laugh about it, but like kind of gloat.
00:47:44.840
But white people are rarely beaten by their parents.
00:48:00.380
My dad has given me slaps just to make it a brother cry.
00:48:08.300
And that's because I wouldn't stop moving in the shell.
00:49:25.240
That boy's going to go up to fear their parents.
00:49:28.900
That he's going to listen to everything they say growing up.
00:49:35.780
Because someone's going to get beat up so many times.
00:49:39.260
Until, you know, they come to a breaking point.
00:49:50.420
If you think about it, it's violating the child.
00:50:06.080
And as a mum now, I'm telling you now, when you become a parent, my, I, please, I really,
00:50:20.620
However, there's been times where I've had to give her a little spank because she was about
00:50:25.580
to cross, run into the road, even though we've spoken about it.
00:50:29.380
So sometimes you have to feel it as well as understanding it because, you know, there's
00:50:34.340
a dangerous situation here and the child is not listening.
00:50:44.480
But regardless, let's see what Islam says about this.
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Ali, what does Islam say about hitting your child?
00:51:08.380
I think even like, there has to be, like, even though Allah says in the Quran when it
00:51:12.420
comes to, like, dealing with your wife, which is a third thing when it comes to, like,
00:51:20.200
Some say it's like a miswaq when you're disciplining your wife.
00:51:25.400
It can be, for example, if she's becoming violent, etc., that I can restrain her.
00:51:29.260
Because then it's that you cannot cause bruise, pain, leave a mark, hit the face.
00:51:36.760
So are we saying that categorically you cannot touch anybody?
00:51:47.760
And the thing is, how many of us have been through hard tests, what Allah's tested us with?
00:51:56.240
So therefore, does that make us a better people?
00:52:01.880
When we do that, it's not that we dislike our child or we hate them.
00:52:05.360
And we're not talking about beating, by the way.
00:52:07.580
I'm not talking about in our bloody boxing match.
00:52:16.240
I think that is absolutely necessary sometimes, especially with some children.
00:52:31.280
She would find, like, every weapon that she could find to, like...
00:52:35.000
I got, like, scissors thrown at me for no reason.
00:52:42.860
Can I just say, as a parent, you need to always exhibit control.
00:52:48.580
And even if that means, like, when disciplining your child, when speaking with your child,
00:52:53.960
communicating your child, you always need to have control.
00:52:56.700
The Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam said, in anger, sit down.
00:53:00.480
As a parent, if you feel like you're so angry in that moment, go to another room, sit down for a few seconds.
00:53:16.860
For me, the way I see things, the boys today, in this generation, I've spoken about it previously.
00:53:23.920
The reason why a lot of them are running wild in the streets is because they've got a lack of discipline.
00:53:34.080
Because some of them are stabbing women, children, they have no boundaries.
00:53:38.540
And they are literally, have no morals or respect.
00:53:45.780
So, I do think, yeah, lack of father figure and a good slap.
00:53:50.500
What's interesting, though, you see all those road men, most of them actually have gone through physical abuse.
00:53:56.640
Some of them have gone through sexual abuse, but this is not in today's generation.
00:54:05.200
And this is the reason why, because divorce has a massive impact.
00:54:08.300
For example, in single mother households, and I'm not blaming the single mothers, but it shows that they are more likely to end up in prison, more likely to get sexually abused, more likely to fall out in school, etc.
00:54:19.680
So, the thing is, this is so detrimental, and this is why it shows that masculinity, a fatherly figure, is so vital.
00:54:26.620
That's why we talk about the breakdown of the family unit.
00:54:28.900
But just the ending on this note, inshaAllah, is also one thing that we never talk about is that your relationship with Allah, anytime you see a dispute, because these things affect the man as well.
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Also look at yourself and what sins you're committing, because the Salaf used to say that we would not commit a sin, except that we would see it in our riding beast or beast ball in our wife.
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Like Allah says in the Quran in Surah Yusuf, the wrong reason we're not successful.
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My dear brother and sister, you're watching this at home.
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The Salaf would say, they would come home, and they see their wife.
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They'll be like, I committed a specific sin here, and it is coming out right in front of me.
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The riding beast is not listening to them, yeah?
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Do you see how they connected their sins to the consequences they're going through?
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So sometimes you need to look and say, what sin did I commit?
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And wallahi, if you have obedience to Allah, I promise you, Allah will make sure you have obedience in your wife, or vice versa, in your husband, in your mother-in-law.
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You don't do that, and you're like, oh, my mother and my wife are not getting on, or this, that.
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Have you said, oh, Allah, forgive me for my sins?
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That every time I go out the house, I check out girls, and I'm talking to girls behind my wife's back, yeah?
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And then you want obedience in your wife, you will see it.
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When you commit sins outside my brother, or my sister, you will see it in your children, you will see it in your car.
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But I'm telling you, bro, you will see the consequences of your sin, ripple effects everywhere.
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The moment you put Allah first, and the moment you start working on yourself, even the little sins, you're like, I don't want to wrong myself, yeah?
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You can listen to me and say, okay, brother Ali, whatever, Quran and Sunnah, here we go again.
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I dare you to try and write down the sins that you commit, and ask Allah for repentance.
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I know a brother, he says to me, bro, I swear to God, my marriage would have broken down a long time ago from external factors.
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Wallahi, there's divine, there's something in my marriage keeping us together.
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And you will look, and it's this brother's actions.
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Bro, you can get as many shayati, and you can get the evilest mother in law.
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And if you show disobedience to Him, you will see it everywhere.
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The closer you get to Allah, I'm telling you, nobody does this.
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The problem is, what does Allah say in the Quran?
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Do you think your life is going to be like that?
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You don't give the basic rights of Allah and you're coming here complaining.
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And look how it bothers you when you tell her don't wear lipstick.
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I feel like telling her, you get lost, Wallahi.
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But, again, it goes back to brothers and sisters.
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Wallahi, your success is in the Quran and the Sunnah.
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May Allah bless our only sisters and our brothers, inshallah.
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As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
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Allah will build for him a similar house in Jannah.
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On that day where Allah, sallallahu alaykum, tells us
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and every little atom weight of good deed you've done
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I never had the money to build a masjid, oh Allah.
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And Allah gives you the reward of as if you've built it.