WILL LUCY'S FEARS STOP HER EMBRACING ISLAM？
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In this episode, we talk about the difference between the creation of the world and creation of Islam and Christianity. We also talk about what it means to be a Christian and a Hindu and why God created them the way he did.
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There might be a stupid question. No question is stupid sister. Every question is valid.
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This is something all Muslims like to talk about. I want to talk about Jinn.
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Yeah. I want to ask so what Shaitan? Yeah. Is he Jinn? He's from the Jinn kind. So we have
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different three types of creation. Us human beings we are which are created of clay or earth.
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Second creation is the angels which are created of light. And you need to take a shahada sister.
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What's her name? Lucy. Lucy is taking a shahada. She knows more about Islam than I do.
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The Jinn are created from smokeless fire. She already knows. I'm just reading her lips.
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And she knows that smokeless fire. What's stopping you sister Lucy from accepting Islam?
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Just imagine the people back in the day when they would have to travel
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certain distances for months or even years. What is one thing that they would carry with them?
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The Qur'an. Why? Because they did not have it on their mobile devices or their gadgets.
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Brothers and sisters, imagine you have an app, the Qur'ani app, which not only shows you how much
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rewards you get, but reminds you to read the Qur'an, gives you reminders. Download the Qur'ani app now and
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let it testify for you on your Muqiyama that you read it wherever you was.
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You're a Muslim. Okay. And Lucy is a... You was a... I was a Protestant priest, but not like practicing.
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Not practicing. Just on the fence. On the fence. Now you're a... Do you still believe in God or...
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I do believe in God. Good. So you're a priest? Yeah.
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Okay, good. So you was like me. I was where you was about 14 years ago. So I always believed in God,
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but I didn't have any religion. But I came to a point in my life where I was like,
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it doesn't make sense for me to believe in a higher power that's purposeless.
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Yeah. Because what's my purpose? You know, my glasses, your shades have a purpose, your shades have a purpose,
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your dress, your clothes, your socks, this watch, this microphone, the camera, everything has a purpose.
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And I thought to myself, what's my purpose, you know? So that's when I started my journey.
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I spent about three years when I had that realization, looking at different religions.
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I started reading the Bible, Qur'an, Hinduism, Sikhism. And I came to the conclusion that Islam is the truth.
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So yeah, to us, we as Muslims, just to touch upon that, we don't believe that God wants us to be perfect.
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There's no concept that you have to be because of Christianity. I'm sure you were a Christian before.
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You said that, for example, they have this, the wages of sin is death.
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So it's very like, you're not perfect and you cannot stand in the presence of God.
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And that's the concept that never, because having an all-loving heart agree,
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something with sin, you are not worthy of worshipping him if you are a sinner.
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And it's actually very interesting because what they do is, they obviously say that God commanded Adam,
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this is a biblical perspective, not as Muslims, that told him not to eat from the tree.
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So, he was, he was, his wife Eve was, they kind of blamed her to tricking Adam.
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Because the reason being is because that's one thing.
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Another thing is because we believe that God is the most just.
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How can we injust, that's injustice in the sense where, because, yeah, no more please guys,
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yeah, because it looks like I've gone to war and I'm winning medals.
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And these are all the medals I've won in war, yeah.
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And so, this concept also that in Christianity, that when a woman is giving birth and she,
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the pain she gets is because of her causing Adam to eat from the tree.
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So, we say this is nonsense because what's a woman, forget any woman,
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all of these billions of children of women that lived after Eve, what's their fault?
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We don't believe that it was both of them that fell into sin.
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And Allah in the Quran actually directly questions Adam.
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The main thing that we have is that we should have repentance.
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That's why if you look at Christianity and many other religions, they have this,
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these semi-gods, always there's this person in the middle that you have to go through to God.
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So, my point is, I never felt comfortable calling Jesus the Son of God or Jesus being God as part of the Trinity.
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If God is a omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent being, then why?
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Surely the fact that he has a son and we pray through him, it makes him not God by the definition of God.
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I mean, it's like I'm hearing a Muslim preaching here.
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The fitrah means the innate disposition that he was born with.
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Because you know when you have a phone and you change all the settings?
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And sometimes you're like, you know what, erase it and go back to the factory settings.
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What you said that is a factory setting is basically going back to your original
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That I don't need to come and tell you, can God have a son or is God a man?
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You're like, that does not make sense because of who God is.
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That's why we believe every person is born a Muslim.
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That's why we as Muslims say every person is born a Muslim.
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Because the thing is, you already have that internally.
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You had to be taught that God has a son and God is Jesus.
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But nobody has to tell you because there was a study done in Oxford University by Justin Barrett.
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They looked like kids and left them like, without any outside influence of religion,
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they all were brought up believing in a higher power.
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None of them came and said, oh, the son of God, none of that.
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So this is what we're talking about, which is the fitrah that you have.
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So in Islam, we say that we don't have this thing of, oh, I'm dirty.
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When you speak to the Christians, they're like, no, no.
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You said, no, I believe God doesn't have a son.
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And I don't know if you like in the 112 chapter of the Quran, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says,
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He does not beget nor is he begotten and there is nothing like him.
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They will say, oh, that's God's, you know, daughters.
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They would ascribe sons to themselves and they would ascribe daughters to God.
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Not that there's anything wrong with, but they despised females.
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And we say God doesn't have a daughter or a son.
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So to us, we say that all of us can stand in the presence of God.
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I don't say, oh, I need to go for Prophet Muhammad
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They, Mary, for example, is, they don't say she's God.
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So the thing is, when you go to certain Catholic churches,
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So the point is that you are indirectly associating partners.
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Because if you are seeing that she has an attribute, argument's sake,
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Should I put it on my watch or what should I do?
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Is that we say that anyone can stand in the presence of God.
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And we have evidence from the Prophet Muhammad.
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Bring forth another nation that sins but repents.
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God is telling us, I don't want you to be sinless.
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I just want you to turn back to me in repentance.
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If you've repented and said God I've changed my ways.
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God Almighty says all of those sins that you've done arguments.
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Somebody was robbing people for God how many years.
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Obviously there's another principle that needs to apply.
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Which is to give the rights of the people that you stole from.
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Islam is very careful to how you deal with other people.
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But there's a heavy emphasis on human beings rights.
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But if I go to him and tell him that I stole from him.
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Do it in a way where it's like you know what bro.
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You don't go to them and say oh you know I spoke ill of you.
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I mean if that person is ready to accept and say he's forgiven.
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You know my wife always says you're a grudge holder.
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I've got sisters already in Muslim Alhamdulillah.
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This is something all Muslims I think talk about.
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Us human beings we are which are created of clay or earth.
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Second creation is the angels which are created of light.
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So those are the three types of creation that we know.
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So how did like what happened to the shaitan that he became?
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And then Adam happened and then he wouldn't bow down.
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But it's actually jealousy is not the cause of it.
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So we don't believe that there is difference of opinion on this part.
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We don't believe that Satan fell into disbelief just by not bowing.
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So he was the one when Allah tells in the Quran that he told the angels to bow down.
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Because the angels kind of do as they are told.
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Even though we believe angels have some sort of a free will.
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They can ask questions like they did in the Quran when they asked Allah.
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And so when Adam was created, Iblis was obviously curious.
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Because before the soul was breathed into Adam, Iblis was observing him.
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Like because Allah, we believe Allah created Adam with his own hands.
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Now in hands, we say the way of his majesty, not like this.
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So we say God Almighty created with his own hands.
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So Adam, obviously Iblis was at the ranks of the angels.
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Now, if you have genuinely reached that rank for the services of God, you will not have a problem if your boss or whoever decides otherwise.
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So when Adam was then breathed his soul into him.
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When he sneezed, he said, Alhamdulillah, all praise belong to God.
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And then when Adam, when all the angels, including Iblis, was told to bow down to how magnificent God Almighty has created Adam, he refused.
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So the first statement is, number one, the fact that you're rejecting a commandment from God is serious in itself.
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Now, the second category is him saying, I am better than him.
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Now, it's very interesting because the moment he said that, he proved what?
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Because if he was better than, he would have, exactly, if he would have obeyed what God said, if you are better than him or equal, God said it, I'll do it.
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The fact that you didn't, you just proved that you are not better than him by saying you are better than him.
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He's basically saying to God Almighty, he's saying to Allah that you, because you misguided me, he's basically saying, no, it's your fault.
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That's what he's saying in the Quran. In the Quran, he's saying, and because you misguided me, watch what I'm going to do with them.
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I'm going to, I'm going to misguide, I'm going to do this and that.
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When you come and negate an attribute of God Almighty, or, or claim, or claim, uh, is it for them?
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She's already got one. She's equipped, brother.
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Alhamdulillah, may Allah bless you for your faith.
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So, yeah. So the thing is this, is that when you ascribe a mistake to God Almighty, this is a sin.
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If I come and say, oh, um, God, um, should have not created me like this.
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What were you trying to, what were you trying to say?
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Now, what's interesting is how comes Adam fell into the same, well, not same sin.
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Is that one, when he committed the sin, Adam, he said, it's my fault, I repent.
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One commits a sin against God and says, it's my fault.
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He says, no, you misguided me and watch what I'm going to do.
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I want to go back to, so a lot of, because you said if someone says, God created me wrong,
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People with low self-esteem and depression and mental illnesses seem to have this thing
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where they think God hates them, or God not loved them, or God created them wrong.
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How can I talk to people about that and tell them that God loves everyone, God not made
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How can I give them that belief, or that mindset?
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Yeah, I think the statement that I made about somebody questioning God, or like not being...
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Look, somebody might not be happy with the way their hair looks, or their nose, or whatever
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it is for that matter, these are things that we're human beings, and these are all influenced
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These are the things that make women feel more ugly, and you need to look at this, and
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do Botox, and get this done, and get that done.
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Otherwise, we as human beings, if we didn't have these pressures, everyone would be happy
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But there's standards that have been set, that's not even real, it's actually rigged.
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If you look at these models who are on these magazines, they don't even look the way they
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are in real life, because it's all photoshopped.
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She can come and say, you know, can you make my stomach look this, and make my this look
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So the thing is that stands, so what we say is, we're talking about people who's genuinely
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ascribing a mistake in the sense where like, Allah is wrong, or this, that.
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If it's coming from a place of, you know, upset, we all say things that we don't mean.
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So I'm talking about someone who's outright arrogant, like Iblis.
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And again, it goes back to them knowing who Allah is.
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You know, if they know who Allah is, and again, connecting themselves to the Quran, Islam,
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Once they fully immerse themselves in Islam, it will get rid of all of this stuff.
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That's what it did to me when I came to Islam 11 years ago.
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I went from society to chains I was enslaved in, and I had multiple masters, not literal,
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you know, like, you know, trying to please the opposite gender, trying to live a certain
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lifestyle, working overtime, having money, all these were my slaves.
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Have you seen the one who has, I think there's three masters, compared to the one who has one master.
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When you have one master, which is Allah, God Almighty, when he tells you how, what to wear,
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Now imagine if there's three masters you guys have, and I say to you, I want you to jump.
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That's why Allah gives a parable, and that's how it was with me when I was living as a non-Muslim,
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I realized it doesn't bring me happiness because I'm living for others.
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Me going, like doing, getting a university degree, so my family can be happy.
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Going and doing this, working overtime, money, this, that way, so I can go.
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It was, I was just in this perpetual cycle of unhappiness.
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That's why I had to wake up and say to myself, there has to be a greater purpose, you know?
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And I always say, when I enslaved myself to Allah, is when I became free.
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Because I only care about what Allah thinks of me.
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Before I would be like, oh no, I need to look this way and that way.
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When I die, you're not even going to come to my grave.
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Why should I waste the majority of my life being upset?
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Because when I go to my friends and say, oh, you know, oh, I don't know.
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I don't know what girls say, but you know, oh, your makeup looks like this.
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Or you go to your friends and oh, you know, you look, I don't care, man.
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When you have that, then you realize what freedom is about.
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Because you free yourself from the shackle of societal pressures.
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And that's why I recommend a book called Beauty Sick.
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If you guys buy it, it's from a normal samoa, very good.
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Especially for females because I believe the biggest pandemic we have is this whole,
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you know, makeup industry, the beauty sickness, because the standards are given.
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I mean, there was a study done that when the COVID happened,
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there was so many more women that were carrying on wearing the masks.
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And they asked them why they said, well, you know what?
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I don't have to do makeup in the morning and I don't need to be judged by it.
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They were like, you know, I'm afraid of being judged.
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You know, you have women who are being specific dress sense,
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wearing five inch heels to work and their ankles are bleeding.
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I mean, you go clubbing and it's like minus, it's like three degrees.
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The point is not a woman in this country can dress up how she likes.
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The point is, if you go to these girls and tell them,
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do you choose to wake up and take two hours to do makeup?
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And then do you choose to wear a skirt that's going to, it's freezing outside.
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And then you're wearing heels that make your feet bleed,
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that you take them off and walk in bloody pavement.
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If you ask them, they would think, you know, actually, I don't choose to do this.
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And I believe once you accept Islam, you find your true freedom.
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What's what's stopping you, Sister Lucy, from accepting Islam?
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Would you mean like family members or friends or?
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They don't know, they, it would be, everyone else can look but not my daughter.
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Because my dad, like my dad is, my dad is heavily, like, it's not just a,
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I know with English people, they're a bit more, if it makes you happy.
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They have this principle, it's like, if it makes you happy.
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With my dad, I don't care if it makes you happy.
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So with my dad, my dad was very like, my dad said,
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the thing that I hate the most has been born into my family.
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And also he's had some bad experience with Muslims back in our country.
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Look, at the end of the day, I understand your family members can, you know, be upset.
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And I think, I think you're more lucky than me.
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You know, I'm sure your family would be a thing.
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But again, I'm just trying to understand, is there any questions that are stopping you?
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Do you believe that the Quran is from God Almighty?
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Do you believe the Prophet Muhammad is the final messenger?
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Mine is chicken and black bean sauce, halal from Heron Tours.
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Now the Shahada is obviously far more greater than this, but internally, you already know you love
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That's why we say the one who utters, he says, I'm a Muslim on his tongue, but doesn't believe
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It's somebody who has hypocrisy, somebody who believes it in his heart, but doesn't utter
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And that's, I'm talking about those who know deep down, you're not those type.
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You are the one that you believe in your heart and you want to utter, but obviously there's
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things where you're a little bit concerned about, which is family, et cetera.
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Um, again, look, there is a support network that we do have.
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I can't look in the Quran, in the Surah Baqarah, verse two, five, six, it says there's no compulsion
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From what I have observed, you seem like a genuine person.
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So I would say, sister, look, it's totally up to you, but take your Shahada.
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We can go, like, even if I say to you, go on your way back, on your way here, I'll
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But I would personally say to you, take a Shahada.
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I came to Islam 11 years ago and I had to come to that realization.
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Am I going to follow my forefathers knowing that they're in the wrong?
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Are you going to follow your fathers knowing that they were in falsehood?
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I couldn't live with myself knowing that because my family members hate
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Islam, they're hostile towards Islam, that just so they're going to be upset.
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Allah sometimes chooses people like you and me to be ambassadors to Islam.
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Because I know many people who come to Islam, they come from hostile backgrounds.
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Okay, so he's been a Muslim for about 30 plus years.
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And then his father on his deathbed accepted Islam.
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The hadith said that on the day of judgment, a person will come in front of God Almighty.
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They will come to God Almighty and God Almighty will present all of the sins they've done.
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God Almighty will bring a statement and place it that will unbalance everything.
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That Shahada, so, and that applies to a person because when he died,
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The only thing he has on the day of judgment is what?
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La ilaha illallah is the only thing he has before he died.
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Inshallah, what we'll do is there's a sister there I want to connect you to.
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But Inshallah, guys, make du'a for sister Lucy.
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My dear brothers and sisters, if you're watching this, make du'a for our sister Lucy.