Ali Dawah - January 08, 2019


WILL YOU MARRY A CHILD?? BRILLIANT REPLY - SPEAKERS CORNER


Episode Stats

Length

15 minutes

Words per Minute

223.81105

Word Count

3,506

Sentence Count

432

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

When is a woman or child old enough to have sex? Is it too young or too old to get married? When is a girl old enough for a relationship? Is she mentally, sexually and physically ready to get into a relationship at 16 years old? In this episode, we discuss the age at which a woman can have sex with her first boyfriend.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Excuse me, why me? Why not? Is it because he's not a Muslim? Is this why you're giving it to me?
00:00:09.860 It's what it is.
00:00:10.240 Can I put it on you?
00:00:12.760 In a fight.
00:00:13.360 Can I put it on you?
00:00:14.160 Which one? Outside the mosque?
00:00:15.560 Look how kind of.
00:00:17.160 It was Birmingham or it was a group of people, Muslims, who were fighting.
00:00:20.920 Do you know something? Do you know something? I don't invite Muslims. I fight extremists.
00:00:27.040 The question I wanted to ask you, right? I've had a few fights over the years. Not with Ali, obviously. Or not with Mr Hijab.
00:00:41.280 We don't want to fight him.
00:00:43.040 Well, I haven't got me gum shield.
00:00:45.040 If someone's a wrong one, then they're wrong. It doesn't really come into religion.
00:00:53.520 And the point, you've said a few things in the past, and I'm going to bring it up.
00:00:57.760 Sure, sure.
00:00:58.760 What you've said is that you believe a child, what I would class as a child, would be...
00:01:07.760 If they decide that they're mature enough to have sex, then that's a decision that they should make.
00:01:15.520 Now, my argument is to that, Ali, is you have.
00:01:19.760 When is a woman or a child ready for a sexual relationship? When?
00:01:34.760 Okay, so for example, if we go to Google and we ask...
00:01:37.520 Don't ask Google or Alexa, I'm asking you, Ali.
00:01:40.480 Okay, but I don't... I'm not a dictionary. I'm going with the actual definition.
00:01:45.280 From Islam, what does it say?
00:01:46.720 No, from Islamically, a woman who reaches the age of puberty, if she is mentally, sexually and physically ready, if there is no harm factor...
00:01:57.520 And this is why I find that what's great about Islam and the Sharia law, not the one that you think of, they're really getting chopped up, yeah?
00:02:04.640 Nothing like that, yeah?
00:02:05.760 So the reason why is because...
00:02:07.100 Bit deflection now.
00:02:08.140 The Western... No, no, it's actually on topic, yeah?
00:02:10.100 It's like it's a camera.
00:02:11.640 Our law says one shoe fits all.
00:02:14.980 Islam says no.
00:02:16.080 Because a female who's 16 years old, they're not all the same, yeah?
00:02:21.460 So she may not be... She might be reaching the age of puberty at 16, mentally, sexually, physically ready.
00:02:26.360 But Islam says if she... If there's a harm factor...
00:02:28.920 So when is a girl physically ready?
00:02:31.520 Himya, Himya, Himya, Himya, yeah?
00:02:32.740 So Islam doesn't say one shoe fits all.
00:02:35.060 Islam says each individual girl has her rights, yeah?
00:02:39.120 Her physical rights, yeah?
00:02:40.260 That's one thing the Sharia came to protect, yeah?
00:02:43.380 Okay.
00:02:43.840 So the thing is that in this country, it says you're 16?
00:02:47.580 Okay, you can have sex now.
00:02:48.360 Even though we know teenage girls having sex in the bushes and getting pregnant is an epidemic.
00:02:54.660 Am I lying?
00:02:56.260 Go and check it out, yeah?
00:02:57.220 So what I'm trying to say is this, Islamically, we don't say to our daughters,
00:03:01.020 Oh, look, darling, how old are you now?
00:03:03.100 You've reached the age of puberty.
00:03:03.980 All right, time to get married.
00:03:04.960 It doesn't work out.
00:03:05.580 It's the same with you.
00:03:06.460 If you have a daughter...
00:03:07.220 No, no, don't put them in the same bracket as...
00:03:08.780 No, no, no.
00:03:09.100 Okay, no, no.
00:03:09.580 You can't do that, Ellie.
00:03:10.960 One second.
00:03:11.340 If you have a daughter...
00:03:12.180 Yeah.
00:03:12.640 ...and your daughter has reached the age of puberty...
00:03:15.300 Yeah.
00:03:15.640 ...at 16, yeah?
00:03:16.900 Are you going to force her to go and get a boyfriend?
00:03:18.360 Yeah.
00:03:19.820 The question that I want to ask you, see, we know what Ellie does here.
00:03:22.640 No, no, but I'm asking the question.
00:03:23.560 No, no, you see...
00:03:24.180 You want me to answer how you want me to answer?
00:03:25.180 No, no, no, I'm asking you a question.
00:03:27.260 I'm asking you.
00:03:27.920 Well, you're not...
00:03:28.740 Well, I've got your...
00:03:30.720 Maybe you're not happy to answer.
00:03:32.000 Well, maybe in your mind.
00:03:35.700 If...
00:03:36.220 If a girl...
00:03:37.980 Yeah.
00:03:38.800 Okay, is between the ages of nine...
00:03:41.920 Yes.
00:03:42.640 Okay, and 16...
00:03:44.060 Yes.
00:03:44.240 Okay, anywhere within that age bracket,
00:03:48.680 Okay, they could be mature enough in your view?
00:03:51.600 No, no, no, not in our view.
00:03:52.660 Not in our view.
00:03:53.380 Right.
00:03:53.760 In...
00:03:54.400 I don't know.
00:03:55.000 Whose view then?
00:03:55.680 No, no, no.
00:03:57.000 Generally, for example, if you go to a doctor...
00:03:59.280 Yeah.
00:03:59.380 Let's say if you go to a doctor, yeah?
00:04:00.580 The legal age in this country is 16.
00:04:02.340 Yeah.
00:04:02.500 In the United Arab Emirates, it's 18.
00:04:06.020 In America, in some parts of America, it's over.
00:04:07.700 It's 40.
00:04:08.120 Yeah.
00:04:08.340 It's 40 compared to a concept.
00:04:09.500 Yeah.
00:04:09.660 It's 30, yeah?
00:04:10.740 In France, now I think they've dropped it to 50.
00:04:13.180 Yeah.
00:04:13.580 So now, according to our country, France is condoning pedophilia.
00:04:17.560 Mm-hmm.
00:04:18.040 According to United Arab Emirates, we as a UK are a pedophilia country.
00:04:21.960 Mm-hmm.
00:04:22.480 If you go to some other countries, it's 19.
00:04:24.340 In Turkey, it's 18.
00:04:25.760 Yeah.
00:04:25.920 So, do you see the problem with giving it a number?
00:04:28.680 Not over here, I don't know.
00:04:31.000 Okay, okay.
00:04:31.360 But do you see, if that's not the case, that means France is condoning pedophilia.
00:04:33.640 Do you have a problem with a country giving it an age limit legally?
00:04:41.020 Okay, this is the problem.
00:04:41.780 Islamically, what we see is the welfare of the child is vital.
00:04:45.660 Yeah.
00:04:46.020 So what that means is we can't come and generalise and say, okay, everybody, 14.
00:04:50.500 Because there might be a girl that's 14, or 15, or 16, that is not ready, but legally,
00:04:55.380 a man might come and say, okay, let's go out, and we're going to have intimacy, but maybe
00:04:59.320 she's not sexually ready.
00:05:00.960 Would you, would you, would you...
00:05:02.700 So, so...
00:05:03.260 In the Quran, does it say that about that, about the well-being of the child?
00:05:05.900 About the what?
00:05:06.460 In the Quran, does it say that about the well-being of the child and the woman?
00:05:09.600 There is, there is some verses in Surah Nisa, I can find it for you, but...
00:05:12.400 Here we go.
00:05:13.160 It's going to Google it.
00:05:13.860 So, for example, the Prophet Muhammad teased me upon him when he married Aisha, and this
00:05:17.820 is one of the arguments that a lot of people bring.
00:05:19.180 Did you pull your iPad?
00:05:20.160 Yeah, of course, I need it for reference.
00:05:21.500 I wish I had a good memory.
00:05:23.520 Yeah.
00:05:23.660 So, the issue is, look, the Prophet teased me upon him, he married, he married, he
00:05:28.800 married Aisha at 6...
00:05:30.420 Is your password 666?
00:05:32.020 Is that what you put in?
00:05:33.660 I swear, honestly, Alan.
00:05:35.160 Just so, just so, just so you don't have a doubt, I think I'm some kind of a...
00:05:39.580 Devil.
00:05:40.180 Devil.
00:05:41.000 I'm going to show you my password, you know, when I ask you...
00:05:42.460 What did you call him?
00:05:43.680 What's your, what's your name?
00:05:44.380 I didn't even ask you.
00:05:44.780 Show it, show it, I didn't, I didn't ask you anything.
00:05:46.160 I thought you called him.
00:05:46.780 Rob.
00:05:47.200 Rob.
00:05:47.560 Rob.
00:05:47.940 I'm giving you my password, nobody else.
00:05:49.460 All right.
00:05:50.560 The bank, the bank details will be better.
00:05:52.440 What's the bank account number?
00:05:53.200 Look, look.
00:05:54.200 All right.
00:05:56.320 All right.
00:05:56.740 All right.
00:05:57.040 So, he was at 666.
00:05:58.640 You see how I'm treating Robby, yeah?
00:05:59.960 All right.
00:06:00.380 Okay.
00:06:01.000 Now, the Prophet, peace be upon him, is our role model, yeah?
00:06:03.540 Okay.
00:06:04.040 He married Aisha at 6, consummated at 9.
00:06:07.840 Now, today's society that we live in, it sounds troubling and disturbing.
00:06:12.560 I'm not going to come and say, oh, that sounds great to the ear.
00:06:15.060 Yeah.
00:06:15.160 But, what do you think it's okay to marry someone between the ages of 9 and 16?
00:06:20.580 Okay.
00:06:20.700 That's a good question.
00:06:21.100 Or 15.
00:06:21.700 That's what I'm trying to answer.
00:06:22.560 That's what I'm trying to answer, yeah?
00:06:23.420 I just want to know if you think that.
00:06:24.780 Okay.
00:06:24.960 Let me answer for you, yeah?
00:06:25.820 Okay.
00:06:26.400 Firstly, we obey the law of the land.
00:06:28.100 We came here.
00:06:28.720 The password that I have said, I have to.
00:06:29.940 I'm asking what you believe, Ali.
00:06:31.500 Give me up.
00:06:32.420 I'm telling you what I believe.
00:06:33.680 You're going round the houses.
00:06:34.780 No, I'm not.
00:06:35.340 I'm not even started.
00:06:36.240 You're going round Brick Lane, mate.
00:06:37.420 I'm not.
00:06:37.480 I'm trying to go in through the front door, but you're not opening it.
00:06:39.400 Oh, you're not.
00:06:40.100 Okay.
00:06:40.740 So, I'm saying to you this, yeah?
00:06:42.000 Okay.
00:06:43.160 The Prophet, peace be upon him, marry her at 6 and waiting 3 years shows us, indicates
00:06:48.100 something to us, yeah?
00:06:49.240 That the Prophet, peace be upon him.
00:06:50.880 Really?
00:06:51.420 Yes, it does.
00:06:52.280 Because if this argument of him being a paedophile, yeah?
00:06:55.500 If this was an argument, the question that needs to be asked is, why would a paedophile say,
00:06:59.220 I have the power?
00:07:00.160 No, I'm asking what you believe, Ali.
00:07:02.240 Hear me now, Rob, Rob.
00:07:03.080 You need to give me a chance.
00:07:03.820 I need to explain it.
00:07:04.380 I know.
00:07:05.000 Because you're asking the question.
00:07:05.640 I've got a free air drive.
00:07:06.960 It's loaded.
00:07:07.680 Where are you going?
00:07:08.460 I've got a nice one, Ali.
00:07:11.200 I tried.
00:07:11.740 Aye?
00:07:12.980 Scotland Yard.
00:07:14.100 Scotland Yard.
00:07:14.680 You might be coming with me.
00:07:15.820 Yeah.
00:07:17.820 So, what I'm trying to say to you is, the fact that the Prophet, peace be upon him, waited
00:07:20.500 3 years, shows that, for us, that she wasn't ready to consummate the marriage, yeah?
00:07:25.820 How old was she?
00:07:26.520 She was 9.
00:07:27.600 No, he was in his 50s.
00:07:29.300 54.
00:07:29.660 64.
00:07:29.900 64.
00:07:30.540 Yeah.
00:07:30.860 So, hear me out, yeah?
00:07:32.220 Are you telling me that, for example, in history, there is many examples?
00:07:36.500 No, I'm asking what you believe, Ali.
00:07:39.020 What you believe today.
00:07:40.060 What I believe is Islam, and I'm telling you about Islam.
00:07:41.420 I believe Islam and what Islam legislates.
00:07:43.200 Yeah, but I need you to clarify.
00:07:45.460 I know.
00:07:45.740 Do you believe it's okay to have a relationship?
00:07:49.900 I know what you're saying, but hear me.
00:07:50.560 Yeah, but that's what I'm asking.
00:07:51.640 No, but hear me.
00:07:51.860 That's what you're asking, but I don't need to answer, yeah?
00:07:54.300 Okay?
00:07:55.620 Yes.
00:07:55.860 No, no, I'm asking what Ali believes now.
00:07:57.880 One second, brothers, please, yeah?
00:07:58.940 No, I'm not asking history.
00:08:00.240 I'm asking what Ali believes now.
00:08:01.420 Hear me out, hear me out, yeah?
00:08:02.280 What I believe now, and only what I would believe is this.
00:08:04.240 Yeah.
00:08:04.520 Okay?
00:08:04.680 The welfare of the girl and the boy.
00:08:07.700 I'm not asking you about the welfare.
00:08:09.180 I'm asking if you think it's okay to have sexual relations with a girl between the ages
00:08:14.480 of nine and fifteen.
00:08:17.160 No, you can't.
00:08:17.940 Firstly, number one, because of the law that we live in.
00:08:21.020 Number two, Islamically, because she is not mentally, sexually, physically, really,
00:08:25.180 and there's a harm factor, because Allah says this in the Quran, do not harm yourself
00:08:29.200 or other people.
00:08:30.540 So, if I'm not allowed to harm myself and harm other people, how am I going to be with
00:08:35.200 a girl who is...
00:08:35.740 So, categorically, you do not agree with someone having a sexual relationship...
00:08:42.400 Look, look, Rob, Ali is a noble.
00:08:43.960 Ali follows Islam.
00:08:45.340 Is he saying Islam?
00:08:46.460 Islam does not.
00:08:48.080 I'm asking what your view is.
00:08:49.260 I'm not interested in religion.
00:08:50.420 You get my view.
00:08:50.800 I'm asking your view.
00:08:52.100 My view, I can change tomorrow.
00:08:53.220 I can join the far right tomorrow.
00:08:55.040 I can turn around and be...
00:08:56.140 I don't think you could, Ali.
00:08:57.080 Let's be honest.
00:08:57.880 You never know.
00:08:58.380 Jimmy Robinson might accept Islam.
00:08:59.800 You might accept Islam.
00:09:00.520 My sister might accept Islam.
00:09:01.460 How do you know?
00:09:02.460 Don't be silly.
00:09:03.340 Honestly, you're such a joker.
00:09:04.760 How do you know?
00:09:05.180 You're such a joker.
00:09:06.380 You should be on stage.
00:09:07.300 Is it your daughter?
00:09:08.220 Is it my daughter?
00:09:09.380 Thank you.
00:09:09.840 That's a compliment.
00:09:10.540 No.
00:09:11.480 But how do you define the age of consent?
00:09:13.580 Because, you know...
00:09:13.920 Watch out.
00:09:14.400 It's time to gloom you now.
00:09:16.280 If you go to Italy, the age of consent is 11.
00:09:18.200 No, bro, bro.
00:09:18.840 The age of consent is 11.
00:09:20.200 I don't...
00:09:20.440 It's all Italian.
00:09:21.100 I told you.
00:09:22.040 What?
00:09:22.580 Sorry?
00:09:23.220 What I'm saying?
00:09:23.980 In different countries, it varies.
00:09:26.180 Right?
00:09:26.320 No, no.
00:09:26.560 I told him that.
00:09:26.920 I told him that.
00:09:27.300 I said, to Saudi Arabia of Iran,
00:09:28.500 what are you talking about?
00:09:29.060 Are you talking about the United Arab Emirates?
00:09:31.100 Yes.
00:09:31.560 Are you talking about the United Arab Emirates?
00:09:32.740 I'm going to have to get going.
00:09:34.040 Oh, let me finish the conversation quickly
00:09:35.760 and then I'll do it.
00:09:36.360 We're just going to finish.
00:09:37.180 Yeah, yeah, I will.
00:09:38.160 I will.
00:09:38.420 I will.
00:09:39.000 OK.
00:09:39.360 So, therefore, what we say is that
00:09:41.840 if she's got...
00:09:42.780 If I know she's going to be harmed...
00:09:44.460 Yeah.
00:09:44.700 Yeah?
00:09:45.060 OK?
00:09:45.480 I'm not going to carry out an act
00:09:47.820 that is going to be harm to her.
00:09:49.360 Yeah.
00:09:49.440 This is what Islam teaches us, yeah?
00:09:50.960 Yeah.
00:09:51.100 So, the Prophet, peace be upon him,
00:09:52.420 waiting three years
00:09:53.220 because if Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him,
00:09:55.260 was the only man in history
00:09:57.000 that did this, I'll see to you guys, you guys...
00:09:58.860 Yeah, but I'm not talking about the Prophet.
00:10:00.220 There is no him here.
00:10:01.180 There is many people,
00:10:02.100 many kings have married when they were...
00:10:03.860 I just want to know if you...
00:10:05.500 Rob, you're not going to be found to cut me.
00:10:07.280 I just want to know...
00:10:08.320 Look, it's a similar question.
00:10:09.160 No, no, no, no.
00:10:09.820 Look, look, look.
00:10:10.880 No, I don't...
00:10:11.440 Your personal opinion is that
00:10:14.020 you don't agree, you can't.
00:10:15.620 You can't.
00:10:16.060 Right.
00:10:16.600 So, you don't agree with, like,
00:10:18.040 you know, the Quran.
00:10:19.140 Even if I said this,
00:10:20.140 the Sharia comes and starts...
00:10:20.920 Because, like,
00:10:22.000 if the Quran says that
00:10:22.900 and you disagree with that,
00:10:24.180 which you said you do,
00:10:25.400 you don't agree with the Quran.
00:10:26.980 The Quran doesn't.
00:10:28.120 Show me that the Quran
00:10:28.860 disagrees with that.
00:10:29.660 It doesn't, yeah?
00:10:30.400 Well, you're following the Prophet.
00:10:32.040 Also, let me tell you something.
00:10:32.860 Yeah, but you're following the Prophet.
00:10:34.020 Yes, but the Prophet,
00:10:34.820 peace be upon him,
00:10:35.480 he married Aisha at Sid.
00:10:37.080 Yeah, but you don't believe that.
00:10:39.500 You don't...
00:10:40.160 Today, you don't believe that.
00:10:41.300 I'm going to carry two minutes
00:10:41.860 without interrupting me
00:10:42.760 and you're going to say,
00:10:43.480 OK, Ali, I understand you now.
00:10:44.760 Two minutes.
00:10:45.240 No, it's a conversation.
00:10:46.460 Two minutes.
00:10:47.180 OK, I want to hear the two minutes.
00:10:48.500 OK, go on then.
00:10:49.640 I'll give you two minutes, Ali.
00:10:50.940 The Prophet,
00:10:51.340 peace be upon him,
00:10:51.880 marrying...
00:10:52.800 Robert, Robert, please be so sorry.
00:10:54.280 The Prophet marrying Aisha at six
00:10:55.760 and consummating at nine
00:10:57.200 shows us something, yeah?
00:10:58.920 Three years he waited.
00:11:00.100 What for?
00:11:00.480 Why did the Prophet wait three years?
00:11:01.720 For what?
00:11:02.100 Was he having a cup of tea?
00:11:03.000 What?
00:11:03.480 It shows us that she wasn't ready
00:11:05.180 to consummate the marriage.
00:11:06.580 What that teaches is the following.
00:11:08.040 Even at nine.
00:11:08.660 It comes to answer.
00:11:08.920 No, no, no.
00:11:11.660 Adults then,
00:11:12.500 and today are two different times, yeah?
00:11:15.140 So, you still interrupted me, yeah?
00:11:16.600 Oh, sorry, go on, Ali.
00:11:17.580 So what that teaches me is this, yeah?
00:11:19.240 That if a girl isn't ready to get married,
00:11:21.900 then I can't marry her
00:11:23.640 because the Prophet waited three years.
00:11:25.400 Now, his three years,
00:11:26.400 the six-year-old,
00:11:27.400 1,400 years ago,
00:11:28.660 might be a girl that's 14 today.
00:11:30.700 And I have to wait till she's 16.
00:11:32.780 Does that answer your question?
00:11:36.920 What did you say?
00:11:38.400 I tuned out.
00:11:39.960 Ali, Ali, I tuned out.
00:11:42.000 I got zoned out.
00:11:42.880 I'm sorry.
00:11:43.580 Okay, okay.
00:11:43.980 I zoned out.
00:11:45.320 The Prophet, please be upon him,
00:11:46.500 Mary and Asha at six
00:11:47.540 and consummating at nine,
00:11:49.100 the three-year wait that he did
00:11:50.640 shows us that he knew
00:11:53.040 that she wasn't ready to consummate,
00:11:54.560 so he waited for her to be ready.
00:11:56.280 That is the same as me.
00:11:57.560 At nine.
00:11:58.080 Yes, an adult.
00:11:58.980 An adult.
00:11:59.380 He's saying the nine to 14 years now.
00:12:00.900 That is like today,
00:12:02.140 a 14-year-old girl
00:12:03.160 or a 16-year-old girl today.
00:12:04.340 How do you know that?
00:12:05.140 Hear me out, hear me out, hear me out.
00:12:05.860 Because let me tell you why.
00:12:06.520 Because the fact that the Prophet waited
00:12:08.020 for her to be ready to consummate.
00:12:10.560 How are you ready to consummate?
00:12:11.460 You become an adult.
00:12:13.020 A nine-year-old.
00:12:13.740 You become sexually mentally...
00:12:14.600 A nine-year-old?
00:12:16.360 Do you know...
00:12:16.640 But it could be different than...
00:12:17.480 1400 years ago,
00:12:18.460 a nine-year-old is not a nine-year-old today,
00:12:20.560 but, Rob, come on.
00:12:21.340 Time has changed.
00:12:22.140 Today...
00:12:22.460 Oh!
00:12:23.800 Today, Rob, Rob, Rob.
00:12:24.700 You don't get a life expectancy.
00:12:25.060 Rob, Rob, Rob.
00:12:25.880 Today, a woman in a bikini.
00:12:27.540 Yeah.
00:12:27.780 She can go on some bave.
00:12:28.740 No problem.
00:12:29.340 No.
00:12:29.520 If she went a thousand years ago...
00:12:31.860 We're not in front of you,
00:12:32.680 if you can't,
00:12:33.040 because we know what you'd do.
00:12:33.920 Yeah, I wouldn't look at her.
00:12:34.660 There you go.
00:12:35.480 If she was doing that
00:12:36.200 in front of the Crusaders,
00:12:37.120 what would happen to her?
00:12:37.920 What would happen to a woman
00:12:38.660 in a bikini at the time of...
00:12:40.560 But I'm not really interested in what...
00:12:41.860 She would get killed.
00:12:42.980 I'm not really interested in...
00:12:44.240 You're interested in what he thinks.
00:12:45.180 I just want to know what you think.
00:12:47.040 But he told you what you think.
00:12:48.000 Yeah.
00:12:48.200 But, Rob, what I'm saying is this...
00:12:49.120 And I think that's...
00:12:50.380 Rob, Rob, Rob.
00:12:51.160 A contradiction of what he actually does believe.
00:12:53.660 No, I don't.
00:12:54.500 But now you're telling me,
00:12:55.800 now that you know me...
00:12:56.580 That's the point I'm trying to make.
00:12:57.880 Rob, Rob.
00:12:58.080 Is it a contradiction?
00:13:03.540 Yeah.
00:13:04.020 With a severe passion.
00:13:05.480 Yeah.
00:13:05.860 Yeah?
00:13:06.380 Even though he's much better now, yeah?
00:13:08.040 Oh, he's much better.
00:13:08.760 He's much better now, yeah?
00:13:09.500 After five, six years.
00:13:10.440 You know why?
00:13:11.160 Because the thing is, look,
00:13:12.160 we need to understand something, yeah?
00:13:13.300 Yeah.
00:13:13.480 People want us to hate each other.
00:13:14.820 I don't hate you, Rob.
00:13:15.780 I have no problem.
00:13:16.400 If I saw you walking down the road
00:13:17.460 and somebody came and touched you,
00:13:19.060 I'll be the first to run.
00:13:20.060 And I'm not saying this
00:13:20.820 to make you cry, yeah?
00:13:22.180 I'm just being honest with you, my friend.
00:13:23.640 I have nothing against you.
00:13:24.860 I have nothing against our sister.
00:13:26.180 If I saw any man touching her like this,
00:13:29.400 I swear upon God,
00:13:30.920 I would be there to defend her.
00:13:32.040 I would need to know,
00:13:33.460 open your heart.
00:13:34.340 I open my heart.
00:13:35.340 I learn, I study certain religions,
00:13:37.640 I look at certain things.
00:13:38.660 Why?
00:13:39.020 So I can get rid of my ignorance.
00:13:40.840 The highest form of ignorance...
00:13:41.620 Yeah, but how about the video you made
00:13:42.880 when you were talking about
00:13:44.220 the sister had the little thing on her neck?
00:13:47.140 Do you remember that video you made?
00:13:48.360 What neck?
00:13:49.120 Yeah, you know when you were talking about the sister?
00:13:50.780 Which one?
00:13:51.660 You watch my videos carefully, I like that.
00:13:52.980 I do watch your videos carefully, Ali.
00:13:54.540 You know what I mean?
00:13:54.880 I do.
00:13:55.820 You know.
00:13:56.940 Which video, which video?
00:13:57.680 Because I've done a video.
00:13:58.220 I don't know.
00:13:58.860 I'm being honest.
00:13:59.660 I've done videos advising our sister.
00:14:01.260 I mean, it was an older one.
00:14:02.480 Yeah.
00:14:02.820 I've done videos advising our sister.
00:14:04.080 Yeah, yeah.
00:14:04.540 But that's because we care about them.
00:14:05.920 Okay?
00:14:06.340 I don't go and say,
00:14:07.160 you killed them.
00:14:08.060 I don't say that.
00:14:08.600 I just advise.
00:14:09.140 Sorry to interrupt me.
00:14:10.040 I'm sorry, sister.
00:14:10.520 Yeah.
00:14:11.000 All right, Ali,
00:14:11.500 you want to take that off?
00:14:12.120 Rob, you need to come back.
00:14:13.700 I will do.
00:14:14.540 I've got to get home.
00:14:15.300 Ali.
00:14:15.680 Rockies have a special device.
00:14:16.700 We know where you go,
00:14:17.340 what you're doing now.
00:14:19.200 We know your real name.
00:14:20.160 Hi.
00:14:20.760 Hi.
00:14:21.060 Nice to meet you.
00:14:21.860 Thank you, sister.
00:14:22.360 He won't do it.
00:14:23.080 He won't do it.
00:14:23.980 Thank you very much.
00:14:24.700 All right, Ali.
00:14:25.960 See you later, buddy.
00:14:26.880 Thank you.
00:14:27.500 Bye-bye.
00:14:27.980 Just to sum up.
00:14:31.120 So, brothers and sisters,
00:14:32.000 yeah, we just had a really nice discussion with Rob.
00:14:33.800 And I don't know.
00:14:35.100 I thought it was his daughter.
00:14:36.460 I said, is this your daughter?
00:14:37.460 And he said, oh, you think I'm that old?
00:14:38.740 So, I don't know.
00:14:39.360 Maybe they're married.
00:14:39.940 I don't know.
00:14:40.300 I don't know, yeah?
00:14:41.060 So, it was a nice discussion.
00:14:42.980 And there's a lot of misconceptions that he has
00:14:44.820 because he came with,
00:14:46.980 I want to say an agenda,
00:14:48.760 but he's got a certain way of thinking.
00:14:50.640 So, to be honest,
00:14:51.280 one thing that I would like to advise myself
00:14:53.320 and others as well is
00:14:54.180 when we debate somebody.
00:14:56.200 So, for example,
00:14:56.680 sometimes we have a debate with an atheist, yeah?
00:14:58.700 And sometimes we have this perception in our head
00:15:01.240 that every atheist that we talk to,
00:15:03.160 so the atheist that I talked to last week
00:15:04.800 who was arrogant,
00:15:06.020 who wasn't listening,
00:15:07.000 I'm going to treat this new atheist
00:15:09.300 the same way as if,
00:15:10.020 no, this is wrong, yeah?
00:15:11.440 Rob is a gentleman.
00:15:12.700 He came.
00:15:13.120 He had some misconceptions.
00:15:14.320 He asked me some questions.
00:15:15.240 And I answered.
00:15:16.400 And I believe the best form of dawah
00:15:17.880 that we can give
00:15:18.700 is with good behavior.
00:15:20.480 And I hope Rob left with a calm heart
00:15:22.940 that he doesn't think that we're here
00:15:24.320 to take over Sharia law
00:15:26.000 and kill the pigs wherever we find them.
00:15:28.720 Yeah, it was a nice discussion.
00:15:29.840 I just hope
00:15:30.360 God guides him and myself, inshallah.
00:15:33.060 And that's about it.
00:15:33.680 And I hope you guys have benefited.
00:15:35.160 Subscribe to Sam's dawah, inshallah.
00:15:37.280 May Allah bless him for his work.
00:15:38.620 As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.