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00:05:10.000And people don't realize what they have.
00:05:15.000And then nowadays, I am so upset that the things we did and the things we fought for and the boys that died for it, it's all gone down the drain.
00:05:29.000Our country's gone to hell in a handbasket.
00:05:34.000We haven't got the country we had when I was raised.
00:07:13.000This country is being ripped apart and raped and looted.
00:07:18.000We're being slowly poisoned and, in some cases, quickly murdered and assassinated.
00:07:24.000And we're killing ourselves every day, inadvertently, with the kinds of things that we eat and breathe and drink and see.
00:07:32.000People have got to start to radically begin to obey their conscience and tell the truth and do the right thing.
00:07:39.000People have got to start to get courageous.
00:07:42.000And this is the time for everybody to turn and look to God and to pray and to ask for strength and to ask for wisdom to get through this time and to transform and sanctify this country.
00:07:57.000And the alternative is that there will be no country.
00:08:00.000Is it really only as big as low gas prices?
00:08:04.000Is it really only so big as bringing inflation and gas prices and the corporate tax rate back down?
00:08:11.000It's not about waiting for someone to come in and change the policy and make it better.
00:08:14.000It's a personal decision that we all have to make to become soldiers of Christ.
00:08:44.000My own narrative is not one of some sudden, looming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
00:08:49.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
00:09:04.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
00:09:13.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Greupel Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Schill Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty and of course defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First movement who through an increasing amount of activism are really going to ensure America
00:09:45.000is a nation of believers, dreamers and strivers that is being led by a group of censors, critics and cynics.
00:09:56.000These interests have rigged our political and economic system for their exclusive benefit.
00:10:17.000My soul and exclusive mission is to go to work for you.
00:10:24.000It's time to deliver a victory for the American people.
00:10:29.000We don't win anymore, but we are going to start winning again.
00:10:35.000So to every parent who dreams for their child, and every child who dreams for their future, I say these words to you tonight: I am with you, I will fight for you, and I will win for you.
00:10:55.000Saying to me is like, this is probably pretty cool for you.
00:13:32.000But I would call myself something like a Christian futurist instead, because Jesus Christ was our past before any of us were born or conceived.
00:13:42.000Jesus Christ is our present now, and Jesus Christ is our future after we die on Earth.
00:13:49.000We want this century to be the most Christian century in the history of planet Earth.
00:14:01.000We love everybody, and we want people that can burn really more than anybody.
00:14:08.000But this country can no longer be held hostage by a small minority that doesn't include a real country.
00:14:15.000The mission of our movement is to make this country a Christian country.
00:14:23.000The mission is to create a Christian future in our time.
00:14:27.000The only way we're going to do it is not by infiltrating, not by subverting, not by lying, which is what a lot of people do.
00:14:36.000The only way that we're going to make this happen is with the boldness of a real Christian.
00:14:51.000Because if there are thousands and millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians ready to meet their final destiny, then nothing can stop us.
00:17:13.000*music* *music* *music* *music* And I will not encourage my followers to turn out in November to vote for this or campaign for this.
00:17:33.000It is not an unreasonable demand to say that we will not vote for a candidate that promises to import more legal immigrants.
00:17:43.000And it is not unreasonable because for the first time in 20 years, it is the majority opinion that there are too many legal immigrants coming into the country.
00:20:21.000I should have supported Groy for War II. Some
00:26:19.000of them may look back and ask themselves whether they've made the right choice, whether they've made the most of the opportunities they've been given.
00:31:59.000Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people.
00:32:11.000The Washington establishment and the financial and media corporations that fund it exist for only one reason, to protect and enrich itself.
00:32:22.000The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election.
00:32:26.000For those who control the levers of power in Washington and for the global special interest, they partner with these people that don't have your good in mind.
00:32:36.000Our campaign represents a true existential threat like they haven't seen before.
00:32:44.000This is not simply another four-year election.
00:32:47.000This is a crossroads in the history of our civilization that will determine whether or not we, the people, reclaim control over our government.
00:33:00.000The political establishment that is trying to stop us is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration.
00:33:12.000And economic and foreign policies that have bled our country dry.
00:33:19.000The political establishment has brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs as they flee to Mexico, China, and other countries all around the world.
00:33:30.000It's a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth.
00:33:40.000And put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities.
00:33:47.000This is a struggle for the survival of our nation.
00:33:55.000This election will determine whether we're a free nation or whether we have only the illusion of democracy, but are in fact controlled by a small handful of global special interests rigging the system, and our system is rigged.
00:34:12.000You know it, they know it, I know it, and pretty much the whole world knows it.
00:34:18.000The thing that said take a look what happened These are people who work hard but no longer have a voice I am your voice
00:34:41.000Put on notice if you fuck around with us if you do something bad to us We are going to do things to you that have never been done before Don't sit yet.
00:35:59.000It was patriots like you that built this country.
00:36:04.000And it's patriots like you that are going to save our country.
00:36:08.000To all of those who think that they can coerce and subjugate the citizens of this land, hear these words from the people who are going to save our country.
00:36:18.000And it's patriots like you that are going to save our country.
00:36:22.000To all of those who think that they can coerce and subjugate the citizens of this land, hear these words from the people who are going to save our country.
00:36:29.000And they can coerce and subjugate the citizens of this land.
00:36:32.000Hear these words The people of America will not surrender our borders.
00:36:38.000We will not surrender our culture We will not surrender our faith We will not surrender our values We will not surrender our history We will not surrender our liberty And above all, we will not surrender our children We are done with their distorted visions for America It's time to start talking about greatness for our country again.
00:37:06.000We want our country to be great again.
00:37:29.000As long as we are led by politicians who will not put America first, then we can be assured that other nations will not treat America with respect, the respect that we deserve. the respect that we deserve.
00:43:23.000My own narrative is not one of some sudden, looming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
00:43:28.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
00:43:43.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
00:43:52.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Greupel Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Schill, Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty and, of course, defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First movement who...
00:44:15.000through an increasing amount of activism are really going to ensure the future and the success of that movement.
00:44:23.000Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Donald Trump were all cut from the same cloth and that cloth is very, very large.
00:52:15.000really see something that said take a look what happened we will make america proud again yes together we will make america great again
00:52:43.000why wouldn't you dedicate yourself to public service Because I think it's a very mean life.
00:52:52.000I would love and I would dedicate my life to this country, but I see it as being a mean life.
00:52:57.000And I also see it as somebody with strong views and somebody with the kind of views that are maybe a little bit unpopular, which may be right, but may be unpopular, wouldn't necessarily have a chance of getting elected against somebody with no great brain but a big smile.
00:53:12.000And that's a safe commentary for the political process.
00:53:16.000And if you have a minute, why don't we go?
00:54:39.000Donald Trump vowed that the United States would buy and, more importantly, hire American.
00:54:46.000But in June of 2024, during the All In podcast hosted by his donor, David Sachs, he committed that he would not only expand work visas, but he would staple green cards to them.
00:55:03.000And I will not encourage my followers to turn out in November to vote for this or campaign for this.
00:55:10.000It is not an unreasonable demand to say that we will not vote for a candidate that promises to import more legal immigrants.
00:55:21.000And it is not unreasonable because for the first time in 20 years, it is the majority opinion that there are too many legal immigrants coming into the country.
00:58:37.000Oh Oh Oh Oh How you gon' serve these bills, you gon' serve these lights?
00:58:52.000Yeah, turn about my show, actually just do it right Yeah, yeah, we go all night We gon' serve these things, gon' serve these things Gon' serve them all night We gon' serve my dream, they gon' serve my cup, we gon' serve me all right They actin' to feel even bigger, they're brought to the bank And they jumpin' to blast up and tweakin' We got the bills, if you put up outside of you, outta your mind, you crazy tweakin' Got to be out of my lane, bad in my mind, no really bad at my tweakin' Know that you lovin' these lights, you lovin' this world, we runnin' and beg every weekend I wanna be a dictator.
00:59:19.000And you know why I wanted to be a dictator?
01:07:10.000And then nowadays, I am so upset that the things we did and the things we fought for and the boys that died for it, it's all gone down the drain.
01:07:24.000Our country's gone to hell in a handbasket.
01:07:30.000We haven't got the country we had when I was raised.
01:09:08.000This country is being ripped apart and raped and looted.
01:09:13.000We're being slowly poisoned and, in some cases, quickly murdered and assassinated.
01:09:19.000And we're killing ourselves every day, inadvertently, with the kinds of things that we eat and breathe and drink and see.
01:09:27.000People have got to start to radically begin to obey their conscience and tell the truth and do the right thing.
01:09:35.000People have got to start to get courageous.
01:09:38.000And this is the time for everybody to turn and look to God and to pray and to ask for strength and to ask for wisdom to get through this time and to transform and sanctify this country.
01:09:52.000And the alternative is that there will be no country.
01:09:55.000Is it really only as big as low gas prices?
01:09:59.000Is it really only so big as bringing inflation and gas prices and the corporate tax rate back down?
01:10:06.000It's not about waiting for someone to come in and change the policy and make it better.
01:10:10.000It's a personal decision that we all have to make to become soldiers of Christ.
01:10:39.000My own narrative is not one of some sudden looming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
01:10:45.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
01:10:59.000And then finally, a point of no return.
01:11:09.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Groeper Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Schill, Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty and, of course, defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First movement who, through an increasing amount of activism, are really going to ensure...
01:11:39.000America is a nation of believers, dreamers, and strivers that is being led by a group of censors, critics, and cynics.
01:11:51.000These interests have rigged our political and economic system for their exclusive benefit.
01:15:27.000But I would call myself something like a Christian futurist instead, because Jesus Christ was our past before any of us were born or conceived.
01:15:37.000Jesus Christ is our present now and Jesus Christ is our future after we die on Earth.
01:15:44.000We want this century to be the most Christian century in the history of planet Earth.
01:16:46.000because if there are thousands and millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians ready to meet their final destiny, then nothing can stop us and nothing will.
01:18:49.000Lawrence, I found something really interesting.
01:18:51.000In 2016, Donald Trump vowed that the United States would buy, and more importantly, hire But in June of 2024, during the All In podcast hosted by his donor, David Sachs, he committed that he would not only expand work visas, but he would staple green cards to them.
01:19:21.000And I will not encourage my followers to turn out in November to vote for this or campaign for this.
01:19:29.000It is not an unreasonable demand to say that we will not vote for a candidate that promises to import more legal immigrants.
01:19:39.000And it is not unreasonable because for the first time in 20 years it is the majority opinion that there are too many legal immigrants coming into the country.
01:22:17.000I should have supported Groy for War II. Some
01:28:15.000of them may look back and ask themselves whether they've made the right choice, whether they've made the most of the opportunities they've been given.
01:33:55.000Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people.
01:34:06.000The Washington establishment and the financial and media corporations that fund it exist for only one reason to protect and enrich itself.
01:34:17.000The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election.
01:34:21.000For those who control the levers of power in Washington and for the global special interest, they partner with these people that don't have your good in mind.
01:34:31.000Our campaign represents a true existential threat.
01:34:40.000This is not simply another four-year election.
01:34:43.000This is a crossroads in the history of our civilization that will determine whether or not we, the people, reclaim control over our government.
01:34:55.000The political establishment that is trying to stop us is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration.
01:35:07.000And economic and foreign policies that have bled our country dry.
01:35:14.000The political establishment has brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs as they flee to Mexico, China, and other countries all around the world.
01:35:25.000It's a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities.
01:35:42.000This is a struggle for the survival of our nation.
01:35:47.000And this will be our last chance to save it.
01:35:51.000This election will determine whether we're a free nation or whether we have only the illusion of democracy, but are in fact controlled by a small handful of global special interests rigging the system, and our system is rigged.
01:37:24.000Socialists, globalists, Marxists, communists who are attacking our civilization have no idea of the sleeping giant they have awoken.
01:37:37.000They cannot even begin to imagine the brave and righteous spirit they've unleashed in men and women, but they're going to find out the hard way.
01:39:24.000As long as we are led by politicians who will not put America first, that we can be assured that other nations will not treat America with respect, the respect that we deserve. the respect that we deserve.
01:45:19.000is not one of some sudden... a booming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
01:45:23.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
01:45:38.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
01:45:47.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Griper Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Schill, Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty and,
01:46:03.000of course, defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First movement who, through an increasing amount of activism, are really going to ensure We're all cut from the same cloth, And that cloth is very, very large.
01:54:18.000Our featured story, we are going to be talking about news tonight.
01:54:22.000We're going to be getting into a couple of big stories.
01:54:25.000We'll be talking about the closure of the U.S. Agency for International Development.
01:54:32.000USAID, which has now gutted all of its personnel.
01:54:36.000They're going to be down from 15,000 personnel to just under 300. We're also going to talk tonight about new sanctions against the International Criminal Court through the Trump administration.
01:54:49.000We're going after them because they put out an arrest warrant for Bibi Netanyahu last year.
01:54:57.000And we're going to talk about all that, but the big...
01:55:01.000Development for tonight, the really big story, is that this is the eight-year anniversary of the show, February 6th, 2025. It has been eight years to the day since this show started back in 2017. Pretty big milestone, and I gotta tell you, all it does is make me feel old.
01:55:29.000That's a pretty big chunk of time, and really it just makes me feel like an old guy, because I started doing this when I was 18 in college.
01:55:40.000Now I'm hurtling towards 30. How did that happen?
01:55:45.000So we're going to talk a little bit about this show, our anniversary, our plans for the rest of the year, for the rest of my life.
01:55:56.000The America First interns put out a video today.
01:57:10.000And I think the only reason people see it as blackpilling is because People are ready to declare victory because Trump won an election, and I don't see it that way.
01:57:21.000I believe that we're still very much entrenched in the fight, and little has changed.
01:57:29.000Tactically, some things have gotten easier, but we're still entrenched in a slog with both parties, with Democrats and Republicans.
01:59:31.000People that watched the show in the beginning, we were feeling that optimism, that sense of total victory, smugness, gloating, the collapse of the left.
01:59:43.000We felt that same way when this show started the first time.
01:59:48.000And of course, so much has happened since then.
01:59:53.000It's sort of like a mirror going through the exact same thing.
01:59:59.000When I was a freshman in college at 18 years old, seeing Trump win the election in this upset, the inauguration, all those optimistic feelings, and then now, nearly a decade later, experiencing the exact same thing all over again as an adult, as a true, real 26-year-old adult, seeing the upset victory, Trump get elected.
02:00:29.000I'm back on Twitter, now known as X. I'm back on a normal streaming platform.
02:00:35.000Then I was on YouTube, now I'm on Rumble.
02:00:38.000And we'll talk specifically about the show in itself.
02:00:43.000But when Trump won the election in November, and during that transition period, I thought a lot about the different eras.
02:03:10.000We were all young and just having fun and making jokes on the internet with our friends.
02:03:16.000And then when Biden took power, we realized what we had actually done, what Trumpism represented.
02:03:23.000And on January 6th, the challenge and the threat that it posed to the system.
02:03:29.000It's one thing to attend a Trump rally and laugh and have a good time.
02:03:34.000It's another thing when the seat of the American government during the presidential transition Which is the core of the constitutional system or process, is under siege by Trump supporters.
02:03:47.000It was just a different level of seriousness.
02:03:50.000And then for four years it was subpoenas, no fly list, frozen money, FBI investigation, brutal censorship, debanking, things we didn't even think were possible or maybe that we thought were improbable.
02:04:12.000If the first four years were good and the second four years were bad, it would follow from that pattern that this four years are going to be great because Trump is in office again and he won and everything is supposed to be better.
02:04:25.000And I think that in some ways that's true.
02:04:28.000In some ways there is a profound sense of relief.
02:04:33.000And in some ways things have gotten materially easier and better for me.
02:04:38.000With Elon's acquisition of X, Rumble, which has been invented in the past few years, I should say, introduction of live streaming on Rumble, the rise of Bitcoin, maybe the prospect that debanking and other forms of censorship might be rolled back or relaxed.
02:04:57.000So things are certainly better, and yet things are stranger and more different.
02:05:03.000Trump is back in office, but it's not quite the same.
02:05:06.000We're all back on Twitter, but it's not really the same.
02:05:10.000It seems that our talking points are more popular than ever.
02:05:15.000Everybody's aware of them, and even normal people are talking about them, and yet something doesn't feel quite right.
02:05:21.000It almost feels like it's too good to be true.
02:05:25.000And that is the kind of confusion I think that the dissident right is feeling at the moment, at least I am, and I think the Groypers are.
02:05:35.000It's a timeline where Trump won, and yet it seems that the essence of his victory does not belong to, spiritually, the America First movement from 2016. It belongs to Elon Musk.
02:05:49.000It belongs to a new class of oligarchs who are really neoliberal.
02:05:55.000And the kind of conversations that we're having now are just completely different.
02:05:59.000In 2016, if you could put it succinctly, you could say that Trump represented nationalism and Hillary Clinton represented globalism.
02:06:10.000And put succinctly, briefly, that was the struggle.
02:06:15.000Americanism, nationalism, America first versus neoliberalism, globalism, globalization versus the billionaire elite oligarchs.
02:06:27.000Now, though, it seems like there's been some sort of synthesis.
02:06:31.000There's been a fusion of those things.
02:06:34.000Now we have billionaires in the Oval Office.
02:06:37.000For many years, the Trump supporters talked about transhumanism, Silicon Valley liberal billionaires.
02:06:45.000And now those people seem to be pulling the strings.
02:06:48.000They're in the State Department, the White House, all over the federal bureaucracy.
02:06:55.000And it seems like some of the good things are here, but also some of the bad things have been delivered as well.
02:07:01.000As we saw Tuesday, the Zionism has been turned up to 11. Immigration seems to be permissible now as long as it is legal and it will still be massive.
02:07:13.000And of course, I have my other criticisms too.
02:07:15.000But so this is the new chapter of America First.
02:07:19.000It's almost like the previous eight years were a distinct saga in themselves.
02:07:25.000And although each four years had this contrast and were bifurcated between sunny Trumpism and the dark winter of Biden, they did represent the same battle.
02:08:12.000During the Biden years, a lot of people who were with me stopped working with me because they said I had this negative attitude.
02:08:21.000They said I used to be so positive and cheerful and happy.
02:08:26.000And it's like, you know, you would probably have an attitude problem if you had half a million dollars taken from the feds.
02:08:33.000You would probably feel badly if you were banned from flying on an airplane, if you were banned from making money, if you thought you were going to get arrested any day by the FBI and thrown in jail.
02:08:45.000I remember people would say in 2021, man, you're just not nice anymore.
02:09:05.000But I wanted to talk about the show in general because I know a lot of people are new.
02:09:10.000A lot of people are just finding out about me either through Instagram Reels or they see me on X or find me on Rumble or they know me from some of the recent collaborations.
02:09:20.000It's sort of funny because I've been doing this for such a long time.
02:09:24.000And people still have different ideas about me or maybe no idea about me.
02:09:29.000And so I wanted to talk a little bit about the show and kind of what I'm feeling eight years in.
02:09:35.000And there's a point to all of this, I promise.
02:09:39.000It felt like for the past eight years, literally up until this very moment or maybe up until just the very recent past, it feels like...
02:09:49.000Everything that I was doing and everything that this show was, was in reaction to or part of a tit-for-tat against the system.
02:10:13.000I didn't come from any kind of political background, and that's unique.
02:10:17.000Because what I've learned over the course of doing this, and what maybe you people don't know, is that almost everybody in politics, influencers, political people, they all have some kind of pedigree.
02:10:32.000They all have some kind of academic pedigree or political pedigree.
02:10:36.000Their parents are professors at some research school.
02:10:40.000Their parents worked in the Bush administration or the Nixon administration or something.
02:10:45.000Almost everybody that you see in politics is not like you, not like me.
02:12:51.000And I became known as that MAGA guy in a very liberal city, very liberal campus.
02:12:57.000And they asked me, some group from the student newspaper asked me to participate in a video where they were interviewing students about who they would vote for.
02:13:08.000And I was the only Trump supporter they could find.
02:13:11.000So I've been on campus for one month and I get asked by the BU daily paper if I wanted to be a part of this piece.
02:13:19.000And I was interviewed with like seven Hillary Clinton supporters.
02:13:23.000And they put me on the front page with my MAGA hat.
02:13:26.000And I got a lot of attention on the campus.
02:13:28.000People were criticizing me, attacking me.
02:13:31.000And I was putting out a lot of basic stuff.
02:13:34.000Saying multiculturalism is cancer, feminism sucks, that kind of stuff.
02:13:40.000And eventually I started getting threats.
02:13:42.000People were threatening to come and beat me up, knock my MAGA hat off.
02:13:47.000People were saying they were going to kill me if they saw me on campus.
02:13:50.000Again, not so different than what's been happening lately around here.
02:13:55.000And so I pushed back, you know, I didn't back down.
02:14:00.000I didn't take down my Twitter account.
02:14:02.000And eventually, after about a week of social media controversy, I was approached by this guy from Young Americans for Liberty, which is a campus organization, and he asked me if I'd like to debate somebody that was attacking me, if I would like to debate one of my adversaries on Twitter.
02:14:25.000And I was looking to make a name for myself.
02:14:31.000And so this guy went around, he asked a lot of the people that were shitting on me on Twitter if they would face me in a debate, and nobody agreed to it.
02:14:40.000He came back to me and he said, yeah, sorry, no one's going to do it.
02:18:15.000And so this is how we get to know each other.
02:18:18.000At that time, Cassie Dillon, she was working for The Daily Wire as a writer, but she was also working for RSBN, Right Side Broadcasting Network.
02:18:30.000And at that time, RSBN was transitioning from covering the rallies during the election.
02:18:36.000After the election, they started to create original programming.
02:18:45.000They couldn't make money from streaming the rallies, so they started to bring on opinion hosts, commentary, and they were going to host all of these shows.
02:18:56.000And so they brought on Mike Cernovich, they brought on Bill Mitchell, Wayne Dupree, among others, to do a show.
02:19:05.000And Cassie Dillon was a good friend of Joe and Jacob Seals, who ran RSBN, and they gave her a show.
02:19:33.000And it was a little bit after that around Christmas time when she asked me if I would like my own show on RSBN. This was the beginning of America First.
02:21:48.000So understand, at this stage in the game, what I'm describing to you, everything up until that point, this is what happens to every young conservative on a campus.
02:22:00.000This is what happens to every prospective young conservative personality, influencer, Political person.
02:22:10.000If you are a young white man, for the most part, although there's some girls and there's some non-white men, but for the most part, if you are one of these young white teenagers, young white teenage guy who is pretty political or conservative in high school, go to campus, do one of these nicky-nack, you know, young conservative political commentary deals.
02:22:35.000You go to a campus and this is what it looks like.
02:22:40.000You try and get in touch with one of the campus orgs like a Turning Point, a YAL, a YAF, Young Americans for Liberty, Young Americans for Freedom group.
02:22:51.000You try to go to an event or host an event.
02:22:54.000You try to do something with a bigger influencer.
02:22:59.000And you hope that you're going to get noticed and recognized and amplified and maybe you just might land a contract or a guest appearance or show up on Fox News or something like that.
02:23:11.000You hope that you might get a mentor or some sort of benefactor.
02:23:48.000I started at this point in time, after Cassie Dillon asked me that question and based on some of what was happening on the internet at the time, To question the conservative orthodoxy, specifically surrounding Israel.
02:24:04.000And so I began to notice that Daily Wire, Prager University, Breitbart, they were all so pro-Israel.
02:24:55.000And so I started to question, why is it that this is part of the, why is this part of the assortment of talking points that we always get?
02:25:06.000Why is it seemingly all of these traditional conservative American talking points and ideas, and then this one, which is not, it's basic pattern recognition.
02:25:20.000Things that are like versus things that are not like.
02:26:14.000Trump transformed the GOP. He won the election.
02:26:17.000I said, should not everything be consistent and aligned with America first?
02:26:22.000Why is this not fitting these other patterns?
02:26:27.000And at first they were nice, but then they were not nice about it.
02:26:31.000At first they said, oh stop, oh my goodness.
02:26:36.000Well, the reason why is because, you know, they would try to argue it, but I was persistent.
02:26:41.000And eventually they said, you're being anti-Semitic.
02:26:45.000The way that you're asking this is anti-Semitic.
02:26:48.000They said, you know, this is a conversation we can have.
02:26:51.000They said, we're willing to have this conversation with you.
02:26:54.000They said, but it's the way that you're talking about it.
02:26:57.000It's anti-Semitic and it's going to a bad place and you need to stop.
02:27:02.000And if you know anything about how these people operate, this comes straight out of their playbook.
02:27:08.000If you know anything about the Hasbara handbook, They distribute literally a manual to pro-Israel college students, and what is in the manual, it specifically says to do this.
02:27:20.000In the manual, it says that a pro-Israel advocate has to distinguish between somebody who is a legitimate anti-Semite and someone who isn't.
02:27:29.000They said never debate with someone you perceive to be an anti-Semite.
02:27:35.000They said if someone isn't, well, then you can have a respectful conversation in private.
02:27:40.000And maybe you can make some concessions.
02:27:42.000Maybe you can admit you don't know things.
02:27:45.000They said, but you have to actually determine who you're dealing with and then determine how to handle it.
02:27:50.000And that's effectively what they told me.
02:27:53.000They said, we can have a private discussion in real life, one-on-one, and we can explain to you why we support Israel.
02:28:00.000But the way you're asking it is not acceptable.
02:28:09.000And eventually they all blocked me, refused to talk to me.
02:28:13.000Cassie Dillon sent me a long text and said, we are no longer in the same movement.
02:28:17.000You're going into the alt-right, and I can't support that, and I am done talking to you.
02:28:24.000About a week later, I got a call from Joe Seals, who was my boss at RSBN, and he said that Cassie Dillon has been calling me every night for the past week, telling me to fire you.
02:33:34.000Very quickly, I find out I'm the most conservative person there.
02:33:37.000We get called up into the main room, and they go around the room asking everybody why they're a conservative.
02:33:44.000And people raise their hand and say, well, I'm a conservative because, like, I like the Constitution and, like, individual rights and, like, you know, the usual stuff.
02:33:54.000And they get to me and I said, well, I'm a conservative because I think that our country is changing.
02:36:04.000I said, but I think it would be degenerate.
02:36:07.000She took that clip and she knew Cassie Dillon.
02:36:12.000She sent the clip to Cassie Dillon, who then sent it to a group called Reagan Battalion, which is run by a Hasidic Jew from Brooklyn named Benny Politzik.
02:37:38.000Nobody would touch me with a 10-foot pole at 19 years old because of a series of hit pieces, distortions, secret recordings, all out of this grudge from a Daily Wire Jewish convert.
02:37:55.000Because fundamentally, as someone who didn't even know the score, I was asking why America sends money to Israel.
02:38:20.000Now you can understand, my entire adult life, my entire adult life for eight years has been a battle like this.
02:38:31.000It has been a battle of speaking freely and being attacked for it, and then trying to overcome the attacks, being deplatformed, trying to replatform myself, being demonetized and trying to re-monetize myself.
02:38:47.000Being lied about and having to correct the lies.
02:38:50.000Being lied about and having to overcome this blackballing.
02:39:10.000For the past eight years, for my whole adult life, I feel like everything that I've done Has been a domino reaction to that first year that I did the show.
02:39:25.000Everything that I've done, everything that has happened to me has been a domino in a long line since that period where I have been somebody that has tried to put out my opinion and speak freely.
02:39:40.000Somebody that does it with humor, and it's a little bombastic, and I know it's not for everybody.
02:40:39.000I'll talk a little bit about Groyper War.
02:40:42.000So in 2019, I was banned from going to Charlie Kirk's Turning Point events.
02:40:48.000I tried to do a speaking gig at a Turning Point chapter at a campus, and the order came down from Turning Point that if they went through with the speaking event, their chapter would be disbanded.
02:40:58.000That was in June 2019. Later in the year, I attended an event with the Turning Point ambassador, Ashley St. Clair, who you may know now.
02:41:08.000At that time, she was a part of Turning Point's ambassador program.
02:41:12.000And we had feuded in the past, but I met her, I got to know her, we went to a party, and we decided that we didn't really hate each other.
02:41:21.000She respected me and I respected that she was a good sport about how we had feuded on Twitter.
02:42:28.000You had these young kids with MAGA hats, rosaries, crucifixes in line to ask Charlie Kirk, why are you not really a conservative?
02:42:36.000And it really harmed his reputation and the reputation of his organization.
02:42:40.000And that is when, about a month later, I was banned on YouTube.
02:42:44.000About four years ago, in February 2020, it was actually Valentine's Day.
02:42:50.000February 14th, 2020, shortly after that whole saga, I was banned from YouTube in retaliation for that, and my reputation was further destroyed.
02:43:00.000An entire list of smears was created by Benny Johnson, accusing me of being a Holocaust denier, an anti-Semite array, all these things to bury me because I led the opposition against Charlie Kirk and Don Jr. even at one event.
02:43:19.000And the Daily Wire speakers and Crowder and Dan Crenshaw and everybody else.
02:45:17.000Because even though I never trespassed, the FBI launched an investigation into me.
02:45:24.000It was because that photo went viral that the left looked into a large Bitcoin transaction that I received a month before, which had nothing to do with the Capitol.
02:46:18.000I said that now more than ever in the era of the Biden administration, we had to take a stand and show that there still was dissident politics, that we were still exercising our rights, that we were still...
02:46:36.000I said, so now more than ever we need an AFPAC. Now more than ever we need to stand up and show that we're undeterred and not defeated.
02:46:45.000And everybody that had been with me up until that point, all of my friends, all of the dissidents, all of the people from the Groyper War, they all told me they weren't going to go.
02:46:56.000And a few of them betrayed me publicly.
02:46:59.000They said, not only are we not going, but it is reckless, and it's reckless because he's a federal agent and all this kind of stuff.
02:47:08.000So we hosted AFPAC 2, and it was one thing after the other.
02:47:14.000Doing a show, getting smeared, trying to get a job, being secretly recorded.
02:47:21.000Going to Charlottesville, and people lie and act like I was wielding a tiki torch.
02:47:26.000Going and streaming and building a platform on YouTube, getting that viral moment and then getting banned and called the Holocaust denier in the Washington Post.
02:47:35.000Going and building a platform on DLive and then people say I'm in the Capitol when I wasn't and I get banned from everything.
02:47:43.000And it's been like this one thing after the other, year over year, unrelenting in every way, personally, professionally, since I started.
02:47:54.000Now, the reason I say all this is not to complain.
02:48:48.000Exceptional moments, a lot of highs, also a lot of lows, a lot of despair, a lot of misery, frustration.
02:48:54.000I'm not going to lie, it hasn't been easy.
02:48:57.000But I feel like, now here's the point, I said there was a point to all this, how we got here.
02:49:04.000It feels like now for the first time in a very long time, maybe the entire time, I have my head above water and I don't want to jinx it, you know, knock on wood, okay?
02:49:15.000But it feels like for the first time, we're in a position now where we can really create.
02:49:22.000For eight years, it has been putting out fires and running around trying to plug the leaks.
02:49:30.000Not to mix metaphors, but it has been the ceaseless state of panic and urgency and having money and not having money, having a platform, not having a platform.
02:49:41.000And now it feels like maybe for the first time.
02:49:44.000I have my head above water and I can finally renew the movement and we can begin to create and put out something that is a bit more positive.
02:49:53.000And by positive, I don't mean uplifting.
02:49:55.000I mean now we can start to build something as opposed to existing in opposition to the current thing.
02:50:03.000Because that is really the only way that I've been able to operate for all that time.
02:50:09.000And I would hope that now that there is some...
02:50:13.000Reprieve from the cancel culture and the censorship now that some of this is finally coming to light, now that people are learning about how they did this to Candace Owens and how they done this to other people, how they censored these issues.
02:50:28.000Now I'm hoping that maybe there's an opportunity for me to repair and rehabilitate myself a little bit now that people have started to see my side of the story.
02:50:41.000Eight years beating the drum about white identity, about the Jewish control of the country, about Christian nationalism, American nationalism.
02:50:52.000After beating that same drum with pretty remarkable consistency for almost 10 years and having really paid the price, having made the sacrifice to change the conversation, now that people are starting to finally see my side of the story,
02:51:09.000Maybe it's now time to get a little bit more serious and reinvent myself, or not reinvent, but renew myself, and maybe get a chance to rehabilitate, because it seems that in some ways, like I said, we have a lot of fighting to do.
02:51:23.000I think we're still in the battle, but in some ways it's changed.
02:51:29.000So that's kind of my recollection of the past eight years.
02:52:14.000If you are a young white man, even with all the potential in the world, even with all the ability and the inborn talent and the potential in the world, this is the price that they will impose on you.
02:52:27.000It will cost you everything to tell the truth.
02:52:33.000You know, it's a good thing that I'm a pretty antisocial person.
02:52:38.000It's a good thing that I'm a pretty headstrong individual.
02:52:41.000Because if you think you could do what I've done over the past eight years without it costing you, if you want to get married and have kids, your relationship prospects, if you like to go out and have a good time with your buddies, costing you your friendship circle.
02:53:33.000So you watch the show and you think it's a good bit of entertainment and maybe you learned something and maybe you like me and maybe you don't.
02:54:03.000You better not color outside the lines, because if you do, and if you're not willing to get back with the program, your life will look like mine.
02:54:28.000I was a 100-viewer streamer at 18, a complete amateur, streaming in a dorm room in front of a green screen, asking in a moderate way why our relationship with Israel is the way it is.
02:54:57.000People's reputations have been destroyed.
02:55:00.000People have been fundamentally changed by all of this.
02:55:04.000Just because they told one 18-year-old kid, you can't ask that question.
02:55:09.000They told one 18-year-old activist with a little bit of talent and potential.
02:55:15.000With a live stream, with a green screen and a hundred viewer live stream, you're not allowed to ask that question.
02:55:25.000And if you dedicate your whole life to it, and if you steal yourself, and if you give up everything, and if you sacrifice everything, you might just be a thorn in their side.
02:57:55.000And I think about what I've done and where I'm going.
02:58:00.000And, you know, it's easy when you're approaching 30 and when you're at this transitional stage, it's easy to have regrets and imagine what could have been, what a normal life might have looked like, what a happy life might have looked like if that was what I was pursuing.
02:58:19.000And certainly that's what people choose.
02:58:31.000But what is it all for if you can't tell the truth?
02:58:34.000What is it all for if that's the casualty?
02:58:38.000And that's why sometimes I get a little bit frustrated.
02:58:42.000That's why sometimes I get a little bit hot-headed and angry when people aren't doing their share, when people aren't giving their due, when people don't have any recognition about the struggle that I and others have gone through.
02:59:34.000And that's why we play the game for real.
02:59:37.000And like I said, that's why I'm a little bit excited and optimistic about what we can create, what we can now begin to produce, now that it seems that for maybe a moment I've escaped from that matrix.
03:01:39.000But there have been tons of people working behind the scenes, working alongside me from the very beginning that have always been trustworthy and loyal and have sacrificed a lot as well.
03:01:50.000And they've done it for the same reason.
03:01:52.000They've done it because it's the right thing to do, because what we're doing actually matters.
03:01:56.000And when I say the right thing to do, not helping me, not making me famous, but advancing the only movement that is telling the truth, this beaten and battered war machine.
03:02:12.000That has been on a quest to change this conversation from the start without taking any kind of foreign money or money from advertisers or benefactors or sponsors, but just independent, free, out of my mind, as a personal expression, as a personal statement, more than anything, for better or for worse.
03:02:31.000There have been people behind the scenes and alongside me, friends, interns, employees.
03:02:37.000And also people, you have to think about people like Michelle Malkin, people like Myron Gaines, people that really went out of their way to put me on the map that also paid a cost.
03:02:48.000Somebody like Myron Gaines, this is a guy who learned the truth and then went zero to 100 and cost himself probably millions of dollars to put me on and to tell the truth on his show.
03:02:59.000You think about people like that, people like Jake Shields that have opened doors, people like Zerka, Sneeko.
03:03:05.000Like I said, Michelle Malkin, who was there at the very beginning for the Groyper War.
03:03:15.000And that's, I think, at the end of the day what counts, is win, lose, or draw.
03:03:22.000We've made, I think, a lot of good friendships.
03:03:24.000And it's not to be corny, but we've made friendships, and it's a community of...
03:03:30.000It's a community of people of conscience and people of integrity.
03:03:34.000And we don't always agree and we bicker and, you know, there's times when there's petty drama, but at the end of the day, it's a community of people with conscience.
03:03:43.000And I guess if there's anything to learn from the show, it is this.
03:03:48.000It is that the only way to live is to live with conscience.
03:03:52.000And the only way that we're ever going to repair the country is with conscience.
03:03:59.000If there's anything you can learn from, you know, from me, my mistakes and my triumphs, it is that all you can ever do is the right thing or try to do what you believe is the right thing.
03:04:12.000And that means the truthful thing, the honest thing.
03:04:16.000All you can do is try your best to move and speak honestly and with conscience.
03:04:22.000And that is in diametric opposition to these other people that I don't get along with, who I have no respect for, who are cynical and try to move out of cleverness.
03:05:23.000Fulton Sheen said there's a hidden conceit there.
03:05:26.000There's not only the temptation of power, but there's also the conceit that the devil is telling the truth, that he can do that or he would do that.
03:05:34.000He said, is this the first time the devil has told the truth?
03:05:37.000And that's the conceit when people tell you or try to convince you of this ends justify the means.
03:05:44.000We can have the world if you just compromise yourself, if you just compromise your integrity or your conscience.
03:05:53.000And not only is the compromise selling your soul, not only is that in itself evil, but it's also a lie.
03:06:03.000And you see that with all of these other people, these people that are on the other side of what we've been doing.
03:06:09.000So at the end of the day, that is what makes this movement a special thing.
03:06:13.000We're not, you know, mortgaging off everything for the promise or the theoretical, you know, these benefactors and other people that have told us, if only we do this, then we can have, then you can have what you want.
03:06:58.000Sometimes I get a little bit, you know, whatever.
03:07:01.000Not an apology, but like, I know sometimes people don't love the way that I act, but at the center of it, and we must always strive to return to that center.
03:07:12.000That is the spirit of everything that we're doing.
03:11:41.000I really, I guess I am kind of the black guy.
03:11:44.000Because it's like, I go to this white people party with Arville and these other people, and they're all like, hey, Bob, hey, put her there.
03:11:53.000Oh, hey, Bob, we needed that rain, huh?
03:14:34.000It's not like Call of Duty where you're like, you know, getting spawn killed and like bitched out by someone that autistically read the patch notes and like knows the convoluted gun you're supposed to create or whatever, you know, drop shotting and gay shit like that.
03:14:52.000You know, it's a game where you study, bro.
03:14:57.000You individualize it to a single ghost.
03:16:48.000I just hate anybody that has like a clone look.
03:16:52.000And I think a lot of the South, there's like this super conformist culture.
03:16:59.000I feel like in the South, I don't know if it's a Protestant thing, if it's like an English thing, but they have like this tall poppy syndrome, I feel like, where you go to the South and if you're bombastic, if you're loud, if you're ambitious, if you're different, I feel like that's not acceptable there.
03:17:17.000I feel like down in the South, there's this...
03:17:21.000And everybody in the South has got to be, you know, chewing tobacco and driving a truck.
03:17:27.000And no self-respect to Southerner eats Insta grits.
03:23:23.000When people like BAP, when they post, like, the homoerotic stuff, you know, I don't approve of that, but it's like, okay, well, You kind of understand they're promoting vitality, they're promoting healthfulness and beauty.
03:23:44.000And again, it's a little out there, it's a little libertine for me, but you kind of get it.
03:23:49.000When you have these guys and they're like 40 years old, and it's like some short, chubby guy with tattoos, and this tall guy with like...
03:24:01.000And the hair doesn't even have volume.
03:24:03.000He's got this long hair with no volume, and he's got this muffin top, and he's pushing up against the wall.
03:24:09.000It's like, ain't nobody want to see this D-list, broke-back mountain shit.
03:24:15.000That's just completely indefensible, completely unjustifiable.
03:24:20.000Not to say I would justify the other stuff, but it's like, at least there's some attributes where you could say, well, on the Babs side, that's the least...
03:24:33.000A condemnable thing about what they do.
03:26:19.000Thank you very much. - Warpigs 413 cent $10.
03:26:22.000What is your honest opinion on those videos you see on X of a group of guys beating up and slapping grown men who try to meet underage kids online?
03:26:26.000I love watching pedos get their teeth kicked in.
03:26:58.000so it's just getting to the point where it's totally, I love seeing these people get their fucking teeth kicked in, it's gotten out of control.
03:27:34.000Happy eight year AF anniversary, Nick.
03:27:36.000Still remember back in April 2019 being sent a clip of you reacting to Lily Singh's geography class for racist people and watching America first ever since.
03:32:08.000If you weren't convinced after seeing Trump pulling out Netanyahu's chair, you can open X to see Scott Pressler pinned against the wall by his gay BF. Crazy.
03:37:36.000I discovered you in 2020 and was totally captivated.
03:37:38.000Almost no one had the balls to say the stuff you were saying back then, and certainly no one was doing it as charismatically or persuasively.
03:37:42.000This show has taken me from an extremely skeptical atheist to a devout Catholic and has been a fixture in my life for five years.
03:38:00.000Nick, your tangent last night about having a vague sense of innocent melancholy reminded me of something called the Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows.
03:38:05.000It mentioned something called Yu Yi, which sounds similar to what you were describing.
03:40:06.000It's sort of like anxiety in a state of innocence, if that makes sense.
03:40:14.000It's sort of like the earnest sense of missing out.
03:40:20.000It's like this earnest sense of anxiety.
03:40:25.000An earnest longing, like an unselfconscious feeling of longing is how I would – if I'm trying to place it, it would be something like that.
03:43:08.000Knowing what you know now about right wing subversion, do you still think it was an accident that Richard Spencer's eagle on camera after being plucked out of nowhere by MSM eggs to put a face to the dissident right wing and run a giant honeypot?
03:43:55.000And Spencer is really at odds with the white nationalists.
03:43:58.000Like, he never really fit in with them.
03:43:59.000He would go to all the H.L. Mencken and...
03:44:03.000V-Dare in American Renaissance, but I don't believe he ever fit in.
03:44:07.000Because he was always pushing something more progressive and something bigger and more totalizing than the sort of petty white nationalism.
03:44:23.000But I feel like there is sort of a mismatch there.
03:44:26.000It's sort of a round peg in a square hole.
03:44:29.000You know, because you got like Sam Dixon goes there and gives the same speech and, you know, they talk about race statistics and stuff like that.
03:44:39.000And I feel like people like me and Spencer always had a different kind of a mindset and definitely more prone to being divisive and provocative and trying to stir the pot, bringing attention into ourselves.
03:44:52.000So there's some similarities for sure.
03:44:57.000I think there's some stuff that he got to scrutinize, but I have to say, I feel like he's the only one that's thinking.
03:45:03.000He's the only one of these people from those days.
03:45:09.000Well, he's really the only one left from that original alt-right scene.
03:45:14.000And he's one of the people I still follow, and it's actually interesting what he says, and we actually agree on some things, disagree on a lot, but...
03:45:21.000I feel like there's still development there.
03:45:23.000I feel like a lot of the other stuff is just kind of the same stuff.
03:46:19.000Well, we're going to have to just put them in their place in the sense that we need Christians to run the country and we need America to take precedence over Israel and the Jewish community.
03:52:56.000So I was like a red-pilled, like, Natsock normie.
03:52:59.000I was like a normie that was just emerging.
03:53:03.000I was like a normie that was emerging into, like, realizing the Holocaust was fake, realizing Jews control the world, like, full-on race realism.
03:53:12.000And then one of them was really into, like, Jordan Peterson and Stefan Molyneux and, like, philosophy and Steve Pinker and the West.
03:53:20.000And one of them was – eventually got into like continental philosophy and really became anti-tech, like an anti-technology guy.
03:53:29.000And then – and the other guy was a hardcore Duganist, really into Alexander Dugan and Spencer, very Spencerian.
03:53:40.000And he hated populism, hated populism and hated like conservatard Americanism.
03:59:45.000How disappointed are you by whites in the RW movement when people like Michelle, Myron, and Ye are willing to stick their necks out for you?
04:00:53.000I'm not going to sit down and think about every single person, but they're pretty few and far between.
04:00:57.000How many people are really, you know, of course, our guys, people that are with me, people like Beardson and Wurzel and all the others in our scene, Tyler, et cetera, or the other one, you know what I mean?
04:01:10.000Et cetera isn't what you're supposed to use with people, but...
04:01:13.000But these other – but there's very few like white Catholic people that really are willing to do it for the right reasons and tell the full truth.
04:01:25.000And you see a lot of this kind of nonsense from some of our fellow travelers, especially lately.
04:01:39.000So unfortunately, it is like – Black people and some non-white people that have that gene that's just like, fuck it, you're not going to tell me what to do.
04:01:49.000And so many white people, it's just, I don't know what it is, if it's a disposition, if it's ingrained in them, but a lot of them just can't go there.
04:01:56.000I know that's like a stereotype, it's like a meme, but in some ways I feel like that's just true.
04:02:01.000I wish it wasn't like that, but, you know, and Joel Davis is pretty radical.
04:03:07.000It's just a different ballgame altogether.
04:03:09.000I mean, I talk to Dries a lot about this, and the shit they put him through is insane.
04:03:13.000Dries van Langenhoven from Belgium, the stuff they put him through, he gave a girl a can of pepper spray because I think she got attacked by migrants or something, and so she's traveling by herself.
04:03:25.000He gave her, I believe it was a can of pepper spray or some other...
04:03:39.000And you could hear there's a million stories just like that for the members of AFD. They overhear them singing a Nazi song in a dorm room or something and everybody gets arrested.
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04:04:59.000But at the same time, I feel like I have not done enough and feel immensely inspired to lock in and do more this year to live consciously and do my part in whatever way that is.
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04:20:52.000So, you know, when it comes to these empires, when it comes to some of these, like, more constructed identities, it becomes a little bit more complex than just saying, oh, well, if you're white, you're American.
04:21:04.000If you're not white, you're not American.
04:21:09.000Now, obviously, if you go to, like, Texas and you have all these Mexicans there, Well, I mean, these people are basically Mexicans that live in Texas.
04:21:19.000And if you go to Miami, these people are like Cubans that live in Miami.
04:21:25.000But black people that have been here for like 15 generations that were slaves in Virginia, they're not Nigerian in the same way.
04:21:35.000So, you know, it's like I said then, it's just about saying true things.
04:21:39.000When it comes to a difficult subject, you have to start by just saying true things.
04:21:43.000And then you start to bundle those things together into something coherent.
04:21:51.000And it's like I said, if we can say that we all would consider whites to be more American or like an Anglo to be more American and maybe Jews or Slavs to be less American, and yet they're both American.
04:22:05.000And if we could say that Africans in America are American but also distinct.
04:22:11.000From the experience that white people had, we could say all those things.
04:22:15.000Those are all true statements and say that, you know, when you say what is American is sort of difficult.
04:22:22.000It's more complex than to say, well, it's not racial or it's all racial.
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