America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - A Conservative Worker's Party feat. Yousef | America First Ep. 145

00:00:01.000 Good evening, everybody.

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00:00:04.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:00:05.000 We have a great show for you tonight and a very special guest who will be joining us shortly.

00:00:13.000 We will still be doing our call in show for all of our premium members who are asking me. 0.97

00:00:17.000 We'll be doing our guest, the very special Yusuf, who brought death and destruction to the autistic libertarians and the capitalist shills on Steven Crowder's Change My Mind special. 0.99

00:00:30.000 So he'll be joining us. 1.00

00:00:31.000 In a moment.

00:00:32.000 And then we'll be doing our usual call in show, our usual business.

00:00:36.000 I'll be in the Discord and I'll be posting the link for that once we begin with the call in show.

00:00:42.000 But we got to get right into it.

00:00:43.000 We got to get in because we got a packed show.

00:00:45.000 So let's bring him on the show right now.

00:00:47.000 I'm going to call him up on Skype right now and we'll pull him up here, the great Yusuf.

00:00:53.000 And let me give him a ring right now on the old Skype.

00:00:58.000 I know everybody's been waiting all week.

00:01:00.000 And there he is, the man himself, the man of the hour, Mr. Yusuf.

00:01:04.000 How are you doing?

00:01:07.000 Excellent.

00:01:08.000 Let me just pull you up on the screen here and we can get started.

00:01:11.000 Everybody's been dying to have you on the show because we all saw the eternal blowing out of Mr. Steven Crowder, and we appreciate your service to the Nazbol Nation. 0.97

00:01:25.000 So let me bring you up here. 0.79

00:01:27.000 There we go.

00:01:29.000 All right, let me just peep that on.

00:01:31.000 Okay, so we're looking good.

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00:01:33.000 So, Mr. Yusuf, for starters, let's just have a little introduction.

00:01:37.000 We talked a little bit before the show, but I wanted to save.

00:01:40.000 The conversation for now should be a little bit more organic.

00:01:44.000 So, just tell us who you are, what you're about, where you go to school, all of that good stuff.

00:01:48.000 Who is Yusuf?

00:01:50.000 So, I'm a computer science major at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign.

00:01:54.000 And I would say that my politics are probably conservative and progressive a little bit.

00:02:00.000 You know, I think that progressive politics is the right way forward for this country in terms of, you know, raising wages for the working class.

00:02:09.000 But that I think the Democrats have gone in the wrong direction with respect to encouraging mass immigration and especially illegal immigration.

00:02:15.000 I think that it's actually harming the working class.

00:02:17.000 And so we can, I know the conservatives, that's something the conservatives are concerned about.

00:02:21.000 So there can be some, I think there could be a coalition forming in that direction.

00:02:25.000 Absolutely.

00:02:26.000 And it's funny you say that because I didn't quite peg you as a progressive.

00:02:30.000 I know you said earlier you would describe yourself as a based progressive.

00:02:35.000 And I think that's, whoops, hang on.

00:02:37.000 All right, I just got an alert from Skype.

00:02:39.000 But I think it's a little bit interesting that you describe yourself as a progressive because this is something I think a lot of people on the right have been talking about for a long time since the Trump election.

00:02:49.000 Which is that overlap between the far right and people on the left who want to help out the working class, where those interests converge.

00:02:57.000 And the reason we're having you on, of course, is because you went toe to toe with Mr. Steven Crowder on the question of socialism.

00:03:04.000 And I think there are those critiques from both the left and the right of where capitalism falls short of both of our goals.

00:03:10.000 And so could you tell us a little bit about your encounter with Steven Crowder for people that maybe didn't see the whole thing?

00:03:17.000 Could you give us a little refresher on what exactly that was all about from your perspective?

00:03:21.000 Yeah, so Steven Crowder has a series called Change My Mind where he puts up a statement on a banner.

00:03:27.000 And so in that one, it was socialism is evil.

00:03:29.000 And the premise of that is that people are going to come from the audience that disagree with him and are going to argue with him to try to change his mind.

00:03:36.000 Now, what people were talking about in the debate was that he wasn't necessarily really open to having his mind changed.

00:03:43.000 And there were all sorts of debate tactics, like, you know, taking away the mic and, you know, and not allowing me to finish my points that seemed to indicate that it was not so much about changing his mind as about.

00:03:55.000 Demonstrating to his audience that his preconceived views are correct.

00:04:00.000 And so I think most people who watched the video were able to see that, that that was the case.

00:04:04.000 And it seemed like in the comment section, at least people were siding with me.

00:04:08.000 So I thought it went well.

00:04:09.000 Yo, yeah, absolutely.

00:04:11.000 I mean, because I watched it, you know, it was sent over to me by a friend, and I was like, okay, like, let's see what this is about.

00:04:11.000 I think so.

00:04:18.000 And before I even finished it, I watched it in the comments.

00:04:20.000 All the top comments were, you know, Steven Crowder, I'm a fan of yours.

00:04:24.000 Or Steven Crowder, I like you a lot.

00:04:26.000 But that first guy that you debated, it seems like you went away.

00:04:30.000 And I got to say, I have to hand it to you.

00:04:33.000 I have to hand you a little bit of respect because for me to watch you sit there and calm and respectfully rebut his points, despite, like you said, yanking the microphone away, and I could see several times getting in your personal space, getting right up in there, pandering to the crowd the whole time.

00:04:51.000 I mean, that was, aside from even the debate, the most striking thing to me was just how rude he was, right?

00:04:57.000 I mean, he kept saying to you, you know, this is a debate, it's one on one.

00:05:02.000 We're not playing to the audience.

00:05:03.000 And then, how many times did he turn to the audience after he made a joke?

00:05:07.000 So, I admire that you were able to contain yourself.

00:05:10.000 And so, what was the point that you were trying to make?

00:05:12.000 I know he accused you of speaking in paragraphs.

00:05:15.000 If you could summarize, what was your rebuttal to his argument that socialism was evil?

00:05:21.000 It was mostly a pragmatic argument.

00:05:23.000 And the point I was trying to make was that if you're a conservative and you're concerned about mass immigration and particularly illegal immigration, it's impossible to miss the fact that the dynamics that are driving this illegal immigration to the United States.

00:05:36.000 Is a desire by certain employers to get lower wages, lower wage workers than the kind of workers they have here.

00:05:42.000 You know, I like to say that illegal immigration is sort of the counterpart of outsourcing.

00:05:46.000 You know, companies that want to get cheaper labor, they can either outsource their factories or they can bring cheaper third world workers into the United States.

00:05:53.000 But it's fundamentally the same dynamic. 0.87

00:05:56.000 And the people that are the big losers at the end of the day, economically speaking, are the working class. 0.88

00:06:01.000 So if you're a conservative and you're opposed to this sort of mass immigration, illegal immigration trend, You should be siding with the working class and adopting more pro working class politics. 0.98

00:06:10.000 Exactly, yeah, and I think that's fair.

00:06:12.000 And I know a lot of people, a lot of my viewers lean very heavily conservative.

00:06:17.000 It's kind of a split.

00:06:18.000 Some people are, I think, of very similar mind to you in that they're not ideologically conservative.

00:06:23.000 And then I think the other half would be your more traditional Reagan type conservative.

00:06:27.000 And a lot of people said, you know, this guy's a socialist.

00:06:30.000 What's going on, Nick?

00:06:31.000 Are you a socialist?

00:06:32.000 And I would say I think that's a valid critique.

00:06:35.000 Whatever your thoughts are about the broader system, I think what you present to that conversation of this normy idea of capitalism is everything, the capitalism of the free market, that's the hill to die on.

00:06:48.000 I think, regardless of the broader ideology, you present an extremely valid critique of capitalism in the 21st century, which is that from both sides, we want to see the working class do well.

00:06:59.000 We want the people of the country to do well. 0.58

00:07:01.000 And either from a demographic or a cultural angle or just plain economic, immigration really does harm that.

00:07:07.000 And so you came there, you really challenged him.

00:07:09.000 It was great to see him kind of backpedaling.

00:07:12.000 And it was clear that he didn't want to change his mind, which is unfortunate.

00:07:15.000 And so you say you're a progressive.

00:07:17.000 Does that mean that you are, would you call yourself mostly a left wing person, or is it just on that economic issue?

00:07:25.000 I think that we can distinguish between two aspects of the right.

00:07:29.000 Just like, or sorry, on the left, just like the right is really a coalition in the sense that you have neocons, you have Christian conservatives, you've got capitalists who don't necessarily have to agree on all the issues, but simply come together out of political convenience.

00:07:43.000 On the left, we have this coalition between your corporate Democrats like Hillary Clinton, SJWs, as they are referred to on the internet, and the old working class of the Democratic Party.

00:07:53.000 And these are not necessarily the same thing.

00:07:55.000 So, I think when people use the term progressive, they sort of lump all these groups in the same label.

00:08:00.000 But in fact, when you look at some of the old progressive activists or working class activists of the past, people like Cesar Chavez, who was an organizer of farm workers in California and other states, and he was saying, look, illegal immigration is harming farm workers in this country. 0.78

00:08:16.000 They're like scabs crossing the picket line at a union strike, they're lowering wages.

00:08:20.000 As recently as 2016, Bernie Sanders, in an interview with Ezra Klein, said that Ezra Klein was proposing open borders, so he's more of the corporate Democrat type. 0.57

00:08:28.000 And Bernie's like, well, wait a minute, that's a Koch brothers policy.

00:08:31.000 You would completely destroy the working class if you just allowed a billion immigrants to come in and had completely open borders. 0.88

00:08:37.000 It would be terrible. 0.95

00:08:39.000 So I do think there is a core of the progressive movement, the working class Democrats, that could be peeled away from the left if conservatives were speaking to them in a way that was more to their liking.

00:08:52.000 But to do that, I think they would have to drop this emphasis on 100% capitalism.

00:08:56.000 And my point is conservatives should drop capitalism because.

00:08:59.000 You know, everywhere we see now, conservatives aren't really benefiting from the domination of big business.

00:09:04.000 I mean, just look at the controversy over social media and censorship and that sort of thing.

00:09:08.000 You know, it really doesn't work for conservatives now to take the 100% capitalist position.

00:09:12.000 Yeah, no, 100%.

00:09:14.000 And that's something we've been talking about on the show for a long time, which is that if conservatives dropped that GDP worship, dropped the free market capitalism, that ideological worship of that, and they appealed to working class Democrats, White working class Democrats, or even any, I think, working class Democrats.

00:09:33.000 I think that's one of the ways that you could salvage a state like Texas electorally, is with an economic nationalist message.

00:09:39.000 I think Hispanics, blacks, I think a lot of people would be on board with that because, like you said, capitalism doesn't benefit, or at least the free trade, international finance kind of capitalism we've had for 25 years just simply doesn't benefit the vast majority of the electorate.

00:09:55.000 And I think that's something that Trump did very successfully.

00:09:59.000 You know, I think many conservatives, Reagan worshipers, and even some Bernie people, Said that this is one of the things that Trump did well.

00:10:07.000 You know, the way that he appealed to the working class by going after free trade, going after NAFTA, the TPP, talking about health care, for example, where Rand Paul, I think in the second or first presidential debate, said, Oh, you're for socialized health care.

00:10:19.000 You said you'd take care of everybody, which is not typical Republican orthodoxy.

00:10:23.000 And I wanted to get your thoughts on Trump because I think Trump represents kind of this proto workers' party for the Republican Party.

00:10:31.000 He's not all the way there, but I think he kind of introduced the idea.

00:10:35.000 Can I ask if, did you vote for Trump?

00:10:36.000 What were your thoughts on him in the election?

00:10:39.000 I definitely supported Trump.

00:10:40.000 I would say that I think that he fell short of a number of his promises.

00:10:45.000 You did mention that he was talking about giving health care to everybody, and that's true.

00:10:49.000 But unfortunately, he spent the first half of his first term completely going along with the Paul Ryan agenda.

00:10:56.000 I mean, he gave a big tax cut to the billionaire class, so people like George Soros got a big tax cut.

00:11:02.000 The average Trump voter probably does not get a very large tax cut, and those tax cuts obviously will expire, not for the upper class, but for the middle class.

00:11:09.000 And yeah, and also he pushed that healthcare bill.

00:11:12.000 But what he didn't do was push aggressively on immigration.

00:11:15.000 I mean, there were various bills that were being introduced, like the RAISE Act, which was talking about reducing legal immigration by about 50% and changing the focus of legal immigration from unskilled workers to skilled workers.

00:11:29.000 That's something that would have benefited the working class, but he didn't spend nearly as much energy and attention and time pushing that as he did some of the more capitalistic priorities of people like Paul Ryan.

00:11:40.000 So I think the Trump Maybe got duped or fooled by his party into thinking that if he gave them their priorities, they would give him his priorities, and they obviously haven't.

00:11:50.000 Right, yeah, no, and that's a fair critique.

00:11:52.000 And I think a lot of people on this show, a lot of people have said that.

00:11:56.000 The fact that we used, and I don't know if you're aware of this, but there is a very specific rule in the Senate, the Budget Reconciliation Act, where the rule is one bill per year, you can pass it with a simple majority in the Senate as opposed to a two thirds majority.

00:12:09.000 And we spent that one time that we had, our one off rule on that, to get tax cuts instead of the wall, instead of immigration.

00:12:17.000 And just give me one sec.

00:12:19.000 I'm hearing from my producer that we have a little bit of an echo, so let me take care of that real quick.

00:12:25.000 Okay, I think that solves it for now.

00:12:27.000 So the echo went away.

00:12:29.000 But yeah, back to the point.

00:12:31.000 I think that's been the battle between what we call the white pillars and the black pillars on Trump, is people who say, and I think it's always a fair critique that we did go too hard on the capitalistic type stuff, maybe in a bid to get Koch Brother money, Sheldon Adelson money for the midterms, but that it has been seen as a failure or maybe a betrayal of those more promising things that he was talking about during the election.

00:12:55.000 So now tell me.

00:12:56.000 So we've covered, I think, this idea of the left and right alliance because it is coming along as a progressive.

00:13:02.000 You know, do you have left wing friends?

00:13:04.000 Do you have left wing family?

00:13:05.000 What do you think is like the viability for that coalition?

00:13:08.000 Because we hear stories about individuals like yourself who obviously have read about this kind of thing, who think a lot about politics.

00:13:16.000 But I think people are not really seeing it materialize in big numbers of left wing people coming over.

00:13:23.000 Is it not visible?

00:13:24.000 Is it there?

00:13:25.000 I mean, to what extent do you see this happening in the country?

00:13:28.000 Well, I would say that.

00:13:30.000 When you look at typical Bernie voters, and especially people that are very entrenched in that movement, there is an enormous frustration with the state of the Democratic Party.

00:13:38.000 I mean, the Democrat, if people think the Republican Party is corrupt, the Democratic Party is beyond corrupt.

00:13:43.000 You know, they have the super delegates, so they literally give, you know, insiders more votes than ordinary people.

00:13:50.000 And there is a clear attempt by the DNC to undermine the viability of basically the election campaign of Bernie Sanders.

00:13:58.000 So I do think there is a very substantial element.

00:14:01.000 Of Bernie voters that could be persuaded to vote for Trump.

00:14:05.000 But the key thing to understand is that I think that they are more into the economic message than the identity politics.

00:14:12.000 Hillary Clinton was the big promoter of identity politics.

00:14:15.000 She was the one talking about racial justice and that sort of thing.

00:14:19.000 And Bernie was taking a much more economic approach.

00:14:22.000 So I think that when you look at this phenomenon of former Obama voters that vote twice for Obama going to Trump, the economic message really does influence a lot of people.

00:14:33.000 And if you can also hit those points about anti war and anti the big banks, for example, and giving people access to affordable health care, I think a lot of people would be persuadable.

00:14:44.000 But in order to do that, there would have to be a fundamental shift within the Republican Party away from this constant appeasement of corporate and capitalistic interests.

00:14:53.000 Yeah, no, exactly.

00:14:54.000 I think that's a fair point because you look at the Democrats, even in some of these primaries leading up to 2018, and there is a lot, a lot of dissatisfaction among progressives in the party.

00:15:05.000 And that's something I think.

00:15:07.000 Republicans may not be so cognizant of.

00:15:09.000 I mean, we hear about blue wave, we hear about Democratic solidarity, and really, for example, in the Texas primary, you saw in some of those races between the Democrats themselves, there's just an outright civil war between the far left people who are there on the issues and the corporate Democratic Party.

00:15:26.000 And I look at the state of the Republican Party today, and I look at who they appeal to in their platform, in their optics, in their messaging, and they're appealing to the white, Christian, conservative, in some degree Southern, like evangelical voters.

00:15:41.000 And you look at the numbers of people in the country, and that core just is not enough to keep the Republican Party viable in national elections anymore.

00:15:49.000 You know, you think about 2020 or 2024, if somebody like Trump isn't running, if it was Ted Cruz, you're not going to be able to compete in the Midwest.

00:15:56.000 You're not going to be able to compete in the Rust Belt.

00:15:59.000 Sooner or later, you're not going to be able to compete in the Southwest or in the Southeast.

00:16:03.000 And so I think that's really the only way that we can compete with the Democrats in the short term, even the long term, is to peel away those progressives.

00:16:12.000 And then I would ask, I guess, the secondary question, because I'm a very strong Christian, we're very strong cultural conservatives on the show.

00:16:20.000 What do you think is.

00:16:22.000 Is maybe the viability of a party that is culturally conservative?

00:16:25.000 Do you think that, you know, maybe we bring in affordable health care, we bring in anti war, we bring in maybe the more progressive economics?

00:16:34.000 Do you think that would be enough?

00:16:35.000 Or do you think that the cultural conservatism would hurt our chances with the Democrats?

00:16:40.000 Is that to what extent does that affect the viability of bringing them over in your mind?

00:16:46.000 I do think there is a divide on cultural issues, and that's not something that's going to go away in one election cycle.

00:16:52.000 In my personal opinion, I think that emphasizing the economic message would be the best way to go forward.

00:16:58.000 And not just an economic message, but what I hear on shows like this is this constant critique of the war in Syria and the sort of pro Israel foreign policy.

00:17:07.000 It's like, yeah, I think there are a lot of left wing voters that see things exactly the same way.

00:17:12.000 They might not identify the exact cause.

00:17:14.000 They might say, oh, it's because of oil, it's because of the military industrial complex.

00:17:17.000 But regardless, there is that sort of consensus of like, this is bad.

00:17:21.000 And so I do think that there are certain kinds of messages.

00:17:24.000 That can unite these different coalitions.

00:17:26.000 I don't think that cultural conservatism is necessarily one of those messages, but like all political coalitions, the different factions in a party are not going to agree on everything.

00:17:37.000 And so it's more about finding those issues that people can agree on enough to overlook the disagreements.

00:17:44.000 Yeah, that's a great point about coalitions because I think too often you get people who have one view of the world and they think that we've just got to get that group of people to be the biggest as opposed to.

00:17:56.000 Working with people that are parallel, that are alongside, that agree on certain issues.

00:18:01.000 And that's, I think, the best way to do it is to set priorities, is to say, you know, look, Democrats or look, progressives or Green Party people.

00:18:09.000 And this is something even Richard Spencer talks about.

00:18:11.000 You know, when I was, I saw him at CPAC and we talked about this as well, who many people consider him extreme far right.

00:18:19.000 I wouldn't say he's classically more conservative than many people in this country, but he himself said, I think we're seeing a lot of people come around on the left as well, you know, in a weird kind of.

00:18:30.000 Inversion of horseshoe theory.

00:18:31.000 You know, we hate horseshoe theory, but it kind of does work in this case where we are seeing these two parts come together.

00:18:37.000 And I think that's where the future is in the country, where we will trace the new fault line is not between, you know, the old school boomer conservatives and boomer lefties, but between the corporate coastal elites and the more populist, grassroots, working class type people.

00:18:56.000 And I think you're right on the money about that.

00:18:59.000 So, So there's that.

00:19:01.000 And then I wanted to ask you, because we've covered the base on the left, but I got to ask you a more personal question.

00:19:06.000 You're a computer science major.

00:19:10.000 Is politics like a hobby for you?

00:19:11.000 Are you heavily invested?

00:19:12.000 Or did you confront Steven Crowder just as a concerned citizen?

00:19:16.000 Explain why you're into politics.

00:19:19.000 Yeah, it's mostly just a hobby for me.

00:19:20.000 It's not something that I do regularly or for a living or anything like that.

00:19:24.000 I don't have a YouTube channel.

00:19:26.000 But yeah, I mean, I decided to confront Crowder because.

00:19:31.000 I just felt that his version of conservatism was, frankly, not good for the country and not even good for most conservatives.

00:19:37.000 So I want to get back to a point you made earlier.

00:19:39.000 You were talking about the cultural conservative issue.

00:19:42.000 And, you know, it just, I just realized, you know, in the 1950s, for example, which most cultural conservatives will point to as being this golden age of conservative values, you know, people forget like the top marginal tax rate on incomes was over 90%.

00:19:55.000 You know, this phenomenon of like you have one man taking care of the entire family and having a wife that stays at home and lots of kids, that's very financially expensive.

00:20:03.000 And, you know, we're seeing statistics now with like millennials are buying homes at a later time and, you know, are having fewer kids and all these sort of cultural trends that are being driven, at least in part, by, The growing inequality between the working class and the upper class.

00:20:18.000 So, I wouldn't even think that conservatism is necessarily a liability.

00:20:22.000 It could even be a justification for a lot of these more progressive policies of giving workers a greater ability to live that traditional lifestyle.

00:20:30.000 Yeah, well, and that's certainly where I came from on criticizing the free market system.

00:20:35.000 People always tell me when I posit a more distributist lens on economics or something that is more geared towards the social good as opposed to an economic good.

00:20:45.000 People will always tell me, well, you just haven't read enough Milton Friedman.

00:20:50.000 You just haven't read enough Thomas Sowell.

00:20:52.000 And it's like been there, done that.

00:20:54.000 I was the biggest free market shill that you had ever met when I was in high school.

00:20:58.000 And then I came around to understanding, well, my values really are the public good.

00:21:03.000 And you said in that debate, you said you defined evil as bad for society.

00:21:07.000 And I think I came around, as opposed to that individualist lens, to a conception of the society as we need to support families, we need to support people.

00:21:17.000 And Maybe that comes at the cost of economic efficiency.

00:21:20.000 And I don't know if I necessarily call myself a socialist.

00:21:23.000 I don't think, you know, people might call you a socialist, but they think Soviet Union, they think Venezuela, like you said in the debate.

00:21:29.000 But maybe we're just looking at something that's like a social democracy.

00:21:33.000 Maybe you have a market economy, but you have certain government or public programs that are there or some kind of a public consciousness in government that you want to support this kind of a society.

00:21:44.000 And maybe it has to come at the cost of economic efficiency.

00:21:48.000 Is that a fair thing to say?

00:21:50.000 Yeah, I use the term socialism just because on the right it's become a catch all for any kind of program that benefits the social good.

00:21:57.000 So obviously I'm not defending Soviet style central economic planning, but I use the term socialism partly to trigger Crowder and his fans and partly to emphasize that yes, there is a role for government in promoting the social good.

00:22:10.000 And if you think that promoting social good is this great evil thing and we're going to call it socialism is terrible, then I'm going to use the word socialism and say that I'm for it and argue why we should support it.

00:22:19.000 So it's not so much the word and The words and the semantics that really matter to me.

00:22:23.000 It's about the ideas at the end of the day.

00:22:25.000 I like that.

00:22:26.000 I like that a lot because that's actually a really great answer.

00:22:30.000 Because I think a lot of people would say, and a lot of people have said, you know, that that's probably not the best way to go about it because socialism is a dirty word.

00:22:37.000 And you know how much money is poured in by these major corporations into Turning Point USA, into Young Americans for Liberty to make socialism the catch all, like you said, for centralized government planning, you know.

00:22:51.000 You're for, and I've even heard this when I went to CPAC.

00:22:54.000 I've heard this from a Cato Institute scholar who said, and he told, this is not even a joke.

00:22:59.000 He said that if we wanted to institute immigration quotas or limitations on immigration, he said that was a Soviet style restriction.

00:23:08.000 I mean, can you believe this?

00:23:10.000 Any kind, any way that we could impede the flow of capital into the coffers of Wall Street, it's all socialism.

00:23:16.000 So I actually admire that's a good point.

00:23:18.000 There is an effectiveness in that, that you call it socialism and.

00:23:22.000 It does get a reaction.

00:23:23.000 It does, you know, as you say, it triggers them, and then you get to introduce that nuance.

00:23:28.000 So, that's really, I think, a great point.

00:23:30.000 That's something I think that is counterintuitive.

00:23:32.000 And would you describe yourself as Nasbol?

00:23:35.000 Have you ever heard of Nasbol?

00:23:38.000 I've heard of that, yes.

00:23:39.000 Yeah, okay.

00:23:40.000 I would not align myself with that movement.

00:23:42.000 I believe it's a Russian political party.

00:23:44.000 Right, right.

00:23:45.000 Yeah, but it's also kind of just this meme that we have online, you know, just to trigger the Charlie Kirks, the diaper wearing people of the world.

00:23:53.000 And then I would ask, I guess, the final frontier here, which I'm sure people are dying to wonder maybe you're more, you lean this way in economics and you say that if you want to support conservative ends, culturally and otherwise, you would support these progressive economic measures.

00:24:09.000 What is your take on social issues?

00:24:11.000 Not any particular one, but are you left wing across the board or is it just, Economics?

00:24:16.000 Like, what would you say about society or, you know, just in general?

00:24:22.000 I'm definitely more on the socially conservative side of issues.

00:24:25.000 Culturally speaking, I think that the decline of religion and religious values and that sort of thing have been a negative to society.

00:24:32.000 So I'm not a classic leftist in that sense.

00:24:35.000 I am conservative and I believe in some form of economic socialism.

00:24:39.000 Wow.

00:24:39.000 Well, there you have it.

00:24:40.000 I think that's the position for the future.

00:24:42.000 You know, and it's funny because we've seen the rise of this meme.

00:24:47.000 Which is, I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

00:24:51.000 You know, you hear this all the time.

00:24:52.000 This is the consensus basically among young people, young hedonists, who it's like they want to smoke pot and have sex and they also don't want to pay taxes and they don't want the corporations to do their thinking for them in economics.

00:25:04.000 And I think the answer to that in many ways could be described as socially conservative, fiscally liberal, which people think is counterintuitive.

00:25:12.000 But even you reference the 1950s where they had a high marginal tax rate and they had conservative family values.

00:25:18.000 I think back in the day, that was the case for the Democrats.

00:25:21.000 That was the case for the left. 0.84

00:25:22.000 You know, they weren't outside of the Frankfurt School and the commies.

00:25:26.000 The left was generally saying, you know, we don't want to rip apart the family and, you know, have Miley Cyrus smoking pot on MTV.

00:25:33.000 We just want to have a fair distribution of wealth, you know, like Huey Long or Franklin Roosevelt.

00:25:37.000 So I think that's a really great point.

00:25:39.000 And do you have time for questions?

00:25:40.000 Do you have a little bit of time to take questions from the audience?

00:25:44.000 Sure.

00:25:44.000 All right.

00:25:45.000 Well, let me peep on over into our super chat and we'll see if we got any questions.

00:25:50.000 Looks like no questions on the.

00:25:52.000 So, I'll have to jump into the live chat and we'll see what people are saying.

00:25:57.000 Maybe we'll get some super chats as we're looking in the live chat.

00:26:00.000 Because I know the last time I had JF on and people were asking questions after he had left, I was like, I can't ask him the questions because he went away.

00:26:09.000 So, let's see what people are asking about.

00:26:12.000 So, people are, I think, very supportive of this.

00:26:17.000 They're saying, yes, this is the future.

00:26:19.000 People are saying it's national socialism.

00:26:22.000 Would you respond to that, though?

00:26:23.000 Would you?

00:26:24.000 Call yourself a national socialist, or are you?

00:26:26.000 I know that's kind of a loaded phrase, but I would say that that particular movement is a historical movement in a particular country in a particular time.

00:26:35.000 And so I would say that the views that I'm representing are, in a sense, a form of right wing socialism, which has a long history, actually.

00:26:43.000 Otto von Bismarck could be characterized as a right wing socialist.

00:26:47.000 I know some Tories back in the 19th century had some more, like One Nation Conservatism, for example, was a right wing socialist movement.

00:26:55.000 There are plenty of examples of this.

00:26:56.000 It's not restricted to Germany.

00:26:59.000 That's a great answer.

00:27:00.000 Who is this guy?

00:27:01.000 Who is this guy?

00:27:02.000 Is Yusuf your real name?

00:27:03.000 Are you a Fed? 0.92

00:27:04.000 Because that is the perfect answer for that kind of a question. 0.98

00:27:09.000 Because I get asked that all the time, and that's usually the response to the LARPers. 0.54

00:27:14.000 Even maybe reading certain publications where they say that, which is right. 0.80

00:27:19.000 I mean, that's right on the money.

00:27:20.000 So that's a great answer.

00:27:21.000 But let's jump back in and find some more questions for you.

00:27:24.000 We'll see what people are saying.

00:27:26.000 People are talking about Evola.

00:27:28.000 People are talking about Tories.

00:27:30.000 Somebody asked, What do you think about the Second Amendment?

00:27:34.000 I think it's essential.

00:27:35.000 You know, I think that the Second Amendment, or at least the push to take it away, is really a power move by the government to disarm and disempower citizens.

00:27:45.000 And it's really not going to help because we see what's happening in London right now.

00:27:48.000 I believe the crime rate with knives is higher than the violence in New York City.

00:27:54.000 So it's really not helping.

00:27:56.000 Wow.

00:27:57.000 Well, there you have it.

00:27:58.000 So you're good on guns, you're good on economics, you're good on cults.

00:28:01.000 So we're just, you're checking all the boxes here.

00:28:04.000 My audience is going to love you.

00:28:06.000 We're fitting right in here on the America First show.

00:28:09.000 Somebody says, What's your opinion on JFK?

00:28:11.000 What do you think about Jack Kennedy?

00:28:14.000 I don't have too much of an opinion on him.

00:28:16.000 I think he was overall a good president.

00:28:18.000 I certainly like the Apollo project that he started.

00:28:21.000 There was a time when we did all these heroic things.

00:28:24.000 We built the Hoover Dam, we did the Manhattan Project, we did the Apollo Project.

00:28:28.000 We don't really do things like that anymore as a country.

00:28:31.000 We've sort of sunk into this civilizational malaise.

00:28:34.000 I'd like to see another JFK type of figure sending us to Mars.

00:28:38.000 Let's cure cancer, let's do some amazing things.

00:28:40.000 We can be great again.

00:28:42.000 Wow, this is this guy's this guy.

00:28:44.000 We need where was this guy when I had America First Media?

00:28:47.000 We were looking for talent, right?

00:28:49.000 This is great.

00:28:50.000 So I because I happen to agree, I happen to have like the same view on that.

00:28:55.000 You're right, and that is that does strike, I think, a very nationalist tone, right?

00:28:59.000 I mean, this idea of doing these great projects and not necessarily for those ends in themselves, but about pointing the country in a direction towards a goal, rallying behind something, whatever it is, science.

00:29:13.000 Disease, war, you know what, or not war, but, you know, something great.

00:29:16.000 So I hear you.

00:29:17.000 Jack Kennedy, you know, I like him for the same reason.

00:29:19.000 People are asking, what's your ethnic background?

00:29:22.000 Do you mind answering that?

00:29:23.000 Is that intrusive?

00:29:25.000 That's all right.

00:29:26.000 I'm Algerian.

00:29:27.000 Okay.

00:29:27.000 Algerian.

00:29:28.000 So you're from Carthage.

00:29:30.000 You're Carthaginian, right?

00:29:32.000 Are you Muslim or are you.

00:29:35.000 I'm secular.

00:29:36.000 Okay.

00:29:36.000 Secular.

00:29:37.000 Okay.

00:29:37.000 Interesting.

00:29:37.000 Because I know in North Africa, it's a little bit different.

00:29:40.000 It's a little bit, you know.

00:29:43.000 Somebody says, Do you believe in the basic universal income?

00:29:46.000 So, a universal basic income.

00:29:50.000 I think we have to be careful with that because it could very well turn into a subsidy for corporations.

00:29:55.000 So, if you have a universal basic income and everybody's getting some amount of money, there's a danger that that would be used to, for example, lower the minimum wage to zero, for example.

00:30:04.000 People say, well, why do we need a minimum wage now if we have basic income?

00:30:07.000 But what that would enable is for wages to fall essentially to zero.

00:30:11.000 Like you could pay someone, you know, one cents an hour, let's say, and because they're getting their basic income, you know, it's not going to matter to them.

00:30:18.000 So, it could turn into a backhanded subsidy for big corporations.

00:30:21.000 In the same way that people complain about Walmart workers today getting food stamps and getting all these benefits, and so Walmart can get away with paying them very low wages, I would be in favor of a program, say, to give people that are unemployed some form of assistance, and I don't have a problem with that.

00:30:38.000 So, it's just about making sure that it's not subsidizing the big corporations.

00:30:43.000 Yeah, no, that's a good point.

00:30:44.000 That's a good point because I think a lot of people think about it, and specifically conservatives think about the UBI on the labor side of it.

00:30:51.000 They think, well, People are going to get lazy.

00:30:53.000 People are going to leech off the system, and there would be no incentive to work.

00:30:57.000 But I think very few people think about it in terms of on the corporate side of things that you're right.

00:31:01.000 And the way that Walmart functions, its business model is basically subsidized by the federal government because they can pay these outrageously low wages, have these low prices, because the government will be there to provide food stamps and all the rest.

00:31:14.000 So another great point.

00:31:17.000 I can't.

00:31:17.000 Is there one issue, do you think, where you would clash with the nationalist right, or are you basically.

00:31:23.000 Because you're hitting all the right notes here.

00:31:25.000 I'm trying to.

00:31:26.000 Is there one thing that you're a little off on there?

00:31:29.000 Well, I would like to bring up an issue with Trump's deportation policy, if you'd be okay with that.

00:31:35.000 Let's do it.

00:31:36.000 Yeah, sure.

00:31:37.000 Sure.

00:31:37.000 So I think a lot of people, probably in your side of the political aisle, would be very happy with that.

00:31:43.000 But there are some statistics that I think people might not be aware of.

00:31:46.000 So the total deportations, at least last year, for undocumented immigrants were about 0.74% of the population in this country.

00:31:55.000 So it's really nothing, really.

00:31:57.000 And it's actually down from an all time high of about 2.2%.

00:32:00.000 1% of the undocumented population annually getting deported. 0.94

00:32:04.000 So I do think that these deportations are, you know, if not counterproductive, at least not effective at all in terms of solving the actual problem, which is the fact that we have so many people in this country. 0.99

00:32:15.000 I would be much more interested in seeing the US government really going after the employers of these illegal immigrants because ultimately that's why people come here in the first place. 0.99

00:32:24.000 It's because they expect a job. 1.00

00:32:26.000 And in fact, a while ago, Trump did commute the sentence of an individual by the name of Shalom.

00:32:32.000 Rubashkin.

00:32:33.000 Yes.

00:32:33.000 We talked about it on this show.

00:32:34.000 Yeah.

00:32:35.000 Yeah.

00:32:35.000 I mean, he was one of the biggest hires of illegal immigrants.

00:32:38.000 And, you know, it just seems to me that, you know, Trump and the Republican Party in general has not taken the right approach to dealing with this problem. 0.51

00:32:46.000 They should go after the corporations, they should go after big business.

00:32:49.000 I think the focus on deportation might actually be very misplaced.

00:32:53.000 That's actually funny because, you know, you scour to find something that we might find an issue with, but that's something that actually me and when I was in business, it was.

00:33:03.000 When I was in business with James Alsop, that's actually something we fought about a lot on our podcast, Nationalist Review, because I think a lot of people on the far right, their mind is at the place of physical removal.

00:33:14.000 And it's very one track, it's very simple.

00:33:17.000 You have people, we have to take them and move them out.

00:33:20.000 And I always used to say on this show, as a counter to that, in the same way that you did, go after the welfare, go after the jobs, eliminate the incentive for them to come and stay here, and that'll take care of a big part of the problem.

00:33:32.000 So I think actually, I think we're on the same page on that one as well.

00:33:35.000 It's something that's not talked about enough because you're right.

00:33:38.000 The idea of deporting 13 million people is an enormous logistical and fiscal task.

00:33:44.000 I mean, that's pretty enormous.

00:33:45.000 And we're not doing very well with the few people that we are deporting.

00:33:48.000 They come back.

00:33:49.000 I mean, we don't even have a secure border, so it makes very little sense.

00:33:52.000 But to get rid of those big swaths of people, it's probably more effective to attack the incentive.

00:33:57.000 And we'll see if we have a couple more.

00:34:01.000 And I think we'll call it at 7 40.

00:34:03.000 Is that all right with you?

00:34:04.000 Because we've got to get on to our calls.

00:34:06.000 So we'll.

00:34:06.000 Okay.

00:34:07.000 Cool.

00:34:07.000 We'll do, but I'd love to stay in touch.

00:34:10.000 We could have you on frequently because I think you're, if you'd be fine with that, we'll talk after the show.

00:34:14.000 But because you're a solid fellow.

00:34:17.000 And we got John Jay who says, How can we fight the left's monopoly on big tech?

00:34:22.000 That's a great question.

00:34:26.000 You know, I think that the right approach is through government regulation.

00:34:30.000 You know, unfortunately, there are these companies and they are established.

00:34:33.000 And, you know, because of network effects, there's probably not going to be another competitor to Facebook or YouTube or, you know, Google.

00:34:39.000 That's going to come and disrupt that market.

00:34:41.000 So, really, the only way to do that is through government regulation and actually to appropriate progressive arguments against monopolies, antitrust law, that sort of thing.

00:34:51.000 And I think the right way forward would be to treat these tech companies as public utilities.

00:34:55.000 You can't turn off someone's water because they have a bad political opinion, let's say.

00:35:00.000 And it should be the same thing with access to the internet, access to social media, that sort of thing.

00:35:04.000 So, I would take it in a more progressive direction, start using government regulation.

00:35:08.000 Yeah, makes sense to me.

00:35:09.000 I see it in the same way.

00:35:11.000 It's the public square.

00:35:13.000 And that's another area, too.

00:35:15.000 Like you were saying earlier, I think you brought this up even earlier in the argument against conservatives' embrace of capitalism, where you see people like Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder, they will defend censorship on Twitter and Facebook effectively by saying, well, we're against it, but our hands are tied.

00:35:33.000 It's the free market.

00:35:34.000 First Amendment doesn't apply.

00:35:35.000 And there's an area where it fails society.

00:35:38.000 So, highly consistent, too.

00:35:41.000 And we'll take one more, and then we'll call it a night.

00:35:44.000 Oh, people are.

00:35:47.000 And of course, we are getting spammed.

00:35:49.000 People asking about the JQ.

00:35:54.000 Do you know the JQ?

00:35:56.000 I don't know if I want to ask you that because I don't want to send you to Twitter jail or school jail.

00:36:02.000 Don't want you to get expelled.

00:36:04.000 I think I'll pass on that.

00:36:05.000 Yeah, fair enough.

00:36:06.000 Fair enough.

00:36:07.000 I think that's another wise answer.

00:36:10.000 And so I'll go back into my super chats and we'll see.

00:36:13.000 Yeah, people are saying he's a college kid.

00:36:14.000 Let's not ruin his life.

00:36:15.000 Exactly.

00:36:17.000 Simon Skolas says, Do you think Bernie would have won against Trump?

00:36:20.000 That's a pretty good question.

00:36:23.000 I think it's possible that Trump would have had to go more populist if Bernie was in the race, but it's hard to say.

00:36:28.000 I think with Trump's existing platform, it would have been hard, but maybe with Bernie in the race, we would have actually gotten universal health care and that sort of thing from Trump.

00:36:35.000 Who knows?

00:36:36.000 Yeah.

00:36:37.000 I think you're right.

00:36:38.000 That's a tough one to forecast because who could say whether Bernie Sanders would be viable?

00:36:45.000 I think that would be the biggest question can this quacky socialist type guy.

00:36:50.000 Who purports to be something so different from the usual.

00:36:53.000 But then again, Trump won.

00:36:54.000 So I think it's a toss up.

00:36:56.000 But anyway, it's been great having you on.

00:36:58.000 Thanks so much for taking the time, answering the questions, and really great to have you.

00:37:03.000 I mean, you're a smart guy. 0.99

00:37:04.000 Usually, people who are interested in politics like this and have these ideas, they're the autists, you know, and they come on and it's a little bit difficult. 0.73

00:37:14.000 But you're articulate. 1.00

00:37:15.000 You got the right answers.

00:37:16.000 You're courageous for standing toe to toe to Crowder.

00:37:16.000 You're smart.

00:37:19.000 So we thank you for your service.

00:37:21.000 You're a real trooper.

00:37:23.000 Thanks for that.

00:37:24.000 Take it easy, big guy.

00:37:24.000 All right.

00:37:25.000 Thanks for having, or thanks for coming on.

00:37:27.000 See ya.

00:37:28.000 All right.

00:37:28.000 Bye bye.

00:37:29.000 Great.

00:37:30.000 Well, what an excellent, what an excellent interview.

00:37:33.000 Wow.

00:37:34.000 I am highly satisfied with that.

00:37:38.000 Incredible, right?

00:37:39.000 I mean, is that just me?

00:37:40.000 And I don't mean to blow smoke.

00:37:41.000 I don't mean to be over the top.

00:37:43.000 I don't like when people are over the top, generally speaking.

00:37:46.000 But we find this person on Steven Crowder, and he, you know, comes out of nowhere.

00:37:51.000 He just wanders out of the dark in Urbana Champagne to completely.

00:37:56.000 Blow out the capitalist shills for the whole world to see.

00:37:59.000 And that's all it takes.

00:38:00.000 And we get him on.

00:38:01.000 It turns out he's so really great stuff.

00:38:04.000 I'm going to have some competition.

00:38:06.000 I shouldn't have even brought him on the show.

00:38:08.000 Now I'm going to go out of business, right?

00:38:09.000 But no, that was really special and great to have him on.

00:38:13.000 But we'll start taking your calls now.

00:38:15.000 I know it's a call in show every other week.

00:38:17.000 So we'll start bringing people on.

00:38:19.000 We'll see what people have to say and we'll get some questions for the Nickler.

00:38:25.000 Excuse me.

00:38:26.000 Let's see.

00:38:27.000 So I'm going to post in the.

00:38:30.000 Excuse me.

00:38:31.000 I will post in the live chat, the call in, or rather the Discord link, and people can filter in.

00:38:39.000 And you can call into the show and ask some questions.

00:38:42.000 Should be a fun time.

00:38:43.000 So let me post it up in there.

00:38:49.000 And let's get our lobby filled up with callers.

00:38:52.000 People are asking about the original Crowder video.

00:38:56.000 Actually, while we're waiting for people to filter in, because there's a delay, I will.

00:39:01.000 It's a shame, like the first part of it, I had a really bad echo, but that's all right.

00:39:06.000 I clicked the wrong.

00:39:08.000 I meant to unmute my audio for the Skype call, and I accidentally unmuted the audio coming through this microphone.

00:39:15.000 So I had two microphones on.

00:39:17.000 That's for people that were really interested in the technical area.

00:39:20.000 But let's, I will link you the original video here.

00:39:23.000 I think it was like Steven Crowder, Socialism is Evil.

00:39:27.000 And I'll plug up the link.

00:39:29.000 Yep, there it is.

00:39:32.000 Okay.

00:39:33.000 So I'll plug up the link if you want it.

00:39:35.000 I'll put it right in the description.

00:39:38.000 So let's do a link to Crowder video.

00:39:47.000 Okay.

00:39:47.000 Bam.

00:39:48.000 Hopefully that doesn't save for every other video.

00:39:50.000 I'll have to go.

00:39:51.000 It might be on the Monday show.

00:39:52.000 And I'll also put it in live chat for you folks as well.

00:39:52.000 Who knows?

00:39:58.000 So let's do that.

00:39:59.000 And while we are waiting for our lobby to fill up, I'll also take your super chats and Streamlabs just to get that out of the way.

00:40:06.000 Thomas Howard says Nick, a debate performance doesn't equal theoretical proof.

00:40:10.000 Gibbs don't promote the social good.

00:40:12.000 Socialism destroys families by default.

00:40:14.000 Well, I think that question was basically covered.

00:40:17.000 Jason Porteous, my Nick, as a Catholic, do you think the sin of envy is always bad?

00:40:22.000 Can benign envy be helpful and advantageous?

00:40:24.000 Why is there a rise in Schadenfreude?

00:40:27.000 I don't think it's always bad.

00:40:28.000 I think, you know, as usual with sins, these are all things that are kind of difficult to prevent in ourselves.

00:40:35.000 You know, it's hard not to see things that other people have and say, you know, I wish I would have that.

00:40:40.000 I think it's when it becomes problematic.

00:40:42.000 And again, I'm not an expert on the theology.

00:40:45.000 I'm not an expert on where they differentiate what constitutes envy versus, I think, just the natural state of things.

00:40:51.000 But I think, as usual with sin, it's just a matter of excess, right?

00:40:57.000 I mean, to an extent, everyone has a certain amount of pride.

00:41:00.000 Everyone has, to some degree, we lust, we have envy.

00:41:04.000 But I think it's excess, right?

00:41:06.000 It's when that becomes defining. 0.96

00:41:08.000 Dante Allegieri, who asked the question about ethnicity, Mimir's head says right wing socialism is the future. 0.96

00:41:15.000 I don't know if we'd call it socialism. 0.96

00:41:17.000 That's.

00:41:18.000 I wouldn't describe myself as a socialist, but I definitely don't think it's international capitalism.

00:41:25.000 Alvaro Quintana says any economic system needs a homogeneous population.

00:41:29.000 True.

00:41:31.000 Berger fan says, how do we persuade the modern leftist and the libertarian?

00:41:34.000 What are the most important conversations to have? 0.76

00:41:36.000 Mass immigration hurting the working class? 1.00

00:41:38.000 I think that'd probably be it, right? 1.00

00:41:41.000 Many of us want something like a modern Apollo program.

00:41:44.000 How about a race to fusion?

00:41:46.000 What's fusion?

00:41:46.000 What do you think?

00:41:48.000 Like nuclear fusion?

00:41:49.000 I don't know, not really visual like Apollo.

00:41:53.000 Nick, send this kid a complimentary knife.

00:41:55.000 That might be in the cards.

00:41:55.000 He earned it.

00:41:56.000 Who knows?

00:41:58.000 And Eric says, finally, you acknowledge Horseshoe Theory in some way.

00:42:01.000 Very good.

00:42:02.000 And now we'll move into our call in show.

00:42:02.000 All right.

00:42:05.000 Let's just start dragging people in.

00:42:07.000 Let's start with who is this?

00:42:09.000 Clarice? 0.87

00:42:10.000 Let's drag this person in. 0.99

00:42:11.000 I hope their microphone is working.

00:42:14.000 Clarice, you're on the show, and your microphone is muted.

00:42:19.000 So you're going to have to.

00:42:22.000 And I'm not hearing you.

00:42:23.000 Let me actually go into my Discord and make sure my settings are all right here.

00:42:28.000 Ah, yes.

00:42:29.000 Well, give me one second.

00:42:29.000 All right.

00:42:35.000 Okay, can you say something now?

00:42:36.000 All right, I'm not hearing.

00:42:39.000 I'm not hearing you, big guy.

00:42:41.000 I don't know if that's my end or your end.

00:42:43.000 I'm going to have to get Joe in here just so we make sure.

00:42:46.000 Oh, here we go.

00:42:47.000 Actually, let's do this.

00:42:49.000 Bing, bing, bong.

00:42:51.000 Bam.

00:42:54.000 And, all right, yeah, I'll have to get somebody else in because, for whatever reason, it's not coming through.

00:43:02.000 Let's get in Joe because we know his stuff works.

00:43:08.000 Joe, you there?

00:43:10.000 I don't know.

00:43:10.000 I can't hear you.

00:43:12.000 It's got to be me then, folks.

00:43:14.000 I'm sorry.

00:43:15.000 Let me change it up a little bit.

00:43:17.000 Let me change it a couple more.

00:43:19.000 There he is.

00:43:20.000 Gotcha.

00:43:23.000 Hello, Joe.

00:43:23.000 How's it going?

00:43:25.000 How's it going?

00:43:26.000 It's going well.

00:43:27.000 How's it going with you?

00:43:29.000 It's going pretty good.

00:43:30.000 That Yusuf interview was pretty good, man.

00:43:32.000 Thank you, my man.

00:43:33.000 Wasn't he something?

00:43:33.000 Appreciate it.

00:43:35.000 Yeah, he's something else, man.

00:43:36.000 We got to make him like a bi monthly guest or something.

00:43:39.000 We got to clone him.

00:43:40.000 We need more of him.

00:43:41.000 Well, why aren't they all like him? 0.66

00:43:44.000 More Yusuf, less David Hoggs, right? 1.00

00:43:46.000 Yes, yes, more Carthaginians. 0.99

00:43:49.000 That's right.

00:43:49.000 Based Carthaginian, yeah.

00:43:51.000 Jeez, Louise, that was pretty good, man.

00:43:53.000 That was a lot of people.

00:43:55.000 He's got a lot of new fans.

00:43:57.000 I hope he's watching this or gets this, but he's got a lot of new fans.

00:44:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:02.000 He's got to be careful, though.

00:44:03.000 I don't know if he's. 1.00

00:44:04.000 Yeah, because I've already exited Zog, you know, so I.

00:44:09.000 It's fine if I get blacklisted, but anyway.

00:44:12.000 What's on your mind tonight, Joe?

00:44:13.000 What do you think?

00:44:14.000 All right, Nikki, people say I'm too nice to you. 0.98

00:44:17.000 They say I suck up too much, so I'm here to lock horns with you. 0.98

00:44:20.000 All right, let's do it. 0.99

00:44:21.000 All right, all right.

00:44:23.000 I don't think you go far enough on the Second Amendment.

00:44:25.000 During the Second Amendment debate, when you were confronted about grenades, hand grenades, and rocket launchers, you kind of backed down and said you don't think we should be allowed to own them.

00:44:35.000 I disagree.

00:44:36.000 I think we should absolutely be allowed to own them.

00:44:38.000 You think we should be allowed to own a bazooka, an RPG?

00:44:42.000 Absolutely.

00:44:43.000 And hand grenades.

00:44:44.000 Our forefathers were allowed to own privately owned artillery pieces, hand grenades, warships with dozens of pieces of heavy artillery.

00:44:54.000 It was a very common thing.

00:44:56.000 You know, I got to be honest.

00:44:58.000 I'll have to say, and I will concede, and I'm really surprised actually that you had a call about the Second Amendment.

00:45:05.000 I was like, Joe, in the Second Amendment, it was a question about that?

00:45:08.000 No, I'm kidding.

00:45:11.000 But so I have to admit, I haven't put a lot of thought into that.

00:45:15.000 I just think.

00:45:16.000 You know, in that regard, I start to understand the left wing point of view in the sense that do we really trust people to have an RPG and handle that responsibly?

00:45:27.000 I mean, enlighten me.

00:45:29.000 What's the argument in favor of that besides that the founders have them?

00:45:32.000 Is there data on this?

00:45:33.000 I mean, what's the argument?

00:45:35.000 If you could make the argument, what would it be?

00:45:39.000 All right.

00:45:40.000 Well, first, I'll say that destructive devices, as they're classified under the ATF, some people are actually allowed to own those with the proper licensing.

00:45:49.000 It's just like.

00:45:50.000 It's just like fully automatic machine guns.

00:45:52.000 There are what you call dealer samples.

00:45:55.000 Firearms manufacturers and dealers are allowed to keep them so that they can display them to law enforcement agencies, military groups, things like that.

00:46:06.000 That's about it.

00:46:06.000 I mean, it's incredibly difficult, though, and very prohibitively expensive.

00:46:11.000 I mean, we're also allowed to own 10.

00:46:14.000 I'm seeing some Bolton posting in the Discord.

00:46:17.000 It's very funny.

00:46:19.000 No, we're actually allowed to own 10.

00:46:22.000 Tanks, armored vehicles, things like that.

00:46:24.000 There are people who own this, but it is prohibitively expensive.

00:46:28.000 My argument would be that we're already allowed to own a lot of these weapons of war, as people like to call them.

00:46:35.000 Yeah.

00:46:36.000 I just think that at some point you have to draw the line.

00:46:39.000 I just think at some point you have to make a decision in the interest of the public good that, you know, if you are able, even if it's expensive, even if it's difficult to acquire, I mean, with that kind of weaponry, you really could have like a serious.

00:46:56.000 Threat to the government?

00:46:58.000 Yeah, I mean, a threat to the government, but is that always a good thing?

00:47:01.000 You know, on the one hand, I think a semi automatic rifle makes it so that you could be a threat to the government if the government alienated enough people.

00:47:10.000 But if you had like five people with RPGs, like they can secede from the country, they could establish their own, you know, I mean, so they could do their own thing.

00:47:21.000 Like a real catboy compound up in the world, huh?

00:47:24.000 Hey, maybe there it is then. 0.92

00:47:25.000 Maybe that's why we need to advance it so that when the catboy compound is established, we can defend ourselves. 0.93

00:47:31.000 Who knows? 0.97

00:47:31.000 Oh, I will have to agree to disagree on it. 0.97

00:47:34.000 I can't come around on that.

00:47:36.000 Well, I'll say I'll be happy with the semi automatic rifles and the armored tanks and vehicles for now.

00:47:42.000 That's why I haven't been visiting many post offices lately.

00:47:44.000 But if they start taking the semi automatics, we're going to have some problems. 0.88

00:47:48.000 Then we're going to have to go kill those or we're going to have to go full uncivilized. 0.89

00:47:48.000 Oh, yeah. 0.89

00:47:53.000 I agree.

00:47:54.000 But a great question.

00:47:55.000 Good catching up with you, big guy.

00:47:57.000 Had to lock horns with you, Nick.

00:48:00.000 Can you maybe consider taking Bob, Punish Bob, as the next call in?

00:48:04.000 He's been.

00:48:06.000 He's been nagging a lot.

00:48:09.000 Sure, he's been nagging me a lot.

00:48:10.000 He says I take up too much time.

00:48:12.000 Sure, we could get Bob on.

00:48:14.000 All right.

00:48:15.000 Thanks, Nick.

00:48:15.000 All right.

00:48:16.000 Thanks for calling in, big guy.

00:48:18.000 Great talking, bro.

00:48:18.000 Take it easy.

00:48:19.000 You too.

00:48:20.000 See you around.

00:48:22.000 All right.

00:48:22.000 And always a pleasure.

00:48:23.000 We love Joe.

00:48:24.000 Friendly guy.

00:48:25.000 He's always in a good mood.

00:48:27.000 You need people like that on your side.

00:48:29.000 I take it, it's great to me that we have people like Joe as opposed to some of the people that congregate a little bit on this side, right?

00:48:39.000 But let's see.

00:48:41.000 On his wishes, we'll take Mr. Punished Bob and let me drag him in here. 0.59

00:48:46.000 Hello, Mr. Bob.

00:48:48.000 Hey, how's it going, buddy?

00:48:50.000 You know that old boofer?

00:48:52.000 That old boofer?

00:48:53.000 That old boomer?

00:48:54.000 Oh, yeah.

00:48:55.000 I need to counter signal him sometimes, but he's an old softy.

00:48:58.000 You gotta love him.

00:48:59.000 We do.

00:49:00.000 You gotta love old Joe.

00:49:01.000 You gotta love him. 0.99

00:49:03.000 He says that you say to him that he's too nice to me, that he sucks up. 0.98

00:49:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:49:11.000 You know, I said about five minutes ago. 1.00

00:49:13.000 How $100 she was going to get in and take up half the show. 1.00

00:49:17.000 First part came true. 0.54

00:49:19.000 That's good.

00:49:20.000 No, we like Joe.

00:49:21.000 Joe, I will say, you know, some people take up parts of the show and it's like, Jesus, like, can you just cut it off now?

00:49:28.000 But at least when Joe takes a little bit of time, it's informative.

00:49:32.000 You know, people say he's very good on the Second Amendment.

00:49:34.000 So we like him for that.

00:49:36.000 But what's on your mind tonight, Bob?

00:49:37.000 What are you thinking?

00:49:39.000 You know what?

00:49:41.000 I don't know why Joe called me in here.

00:49:43.000 I was just chatting with some guys in the lobby.

00:49:45.000 If you want to call someone else in and have an actual question, I'd be down for that.

00:49:49.000 All right.

00:49:49.000 Sounds good.

00:49:51.000 But it was good to hear from you, Bob.

00:49:53.000 Yeah.

00:49:53.000 Good to see you, too, pal.

00:49:55.000 All right.

00:49:55.000 Well, I'll grab somebody else.

00:49:56.000 Let's see.

00:49:58.000 Let me drag in my friend, Mr. Ozymandias.

00:50:01.000 I see him a lot on Twitter, but I think this is the first time calling in.

00:50:06.000 Hello, Mr. Ozymandias.

00:50:08.000 Hello, hello.

00:50:09.000 And it looks like he's muted.

00:50:13.000 Oh, hello.

00:50:14.000 I'm muted.

00:50:14.000 There he is.

00:50:15.000 Hello, mister.

00:50:16.000 What's going on, big guy?

00:50:18.000 Oh, yeah, I'm okay, man.

00:50:20.000 I've been watching the show for a really long time.

00:50:22.000 I remember when you were on RSBN.

00:50:25.000 Yeah, no, I remember you.

00:50:27.000 I remember you from back in the day.

00:50:29.000 We were Twitter mutuals for a while.

00:50:31.000 Yeah, no, longtime fan.

00:50:33.000 I've been definitely just watching it, and I'm very pro Nick on the Nicker team.

00:50:39.000 My man, it's what we like to hear.

00:50:43.000 I just had a question.

00:50:45.000 It's like a Senate Joint Resolution 54.

00:50:48.000 Hmm.

00:50:51.000 I was just curious why the GOP doesn't support it because I know it was promoted.

00:50:56.000 It's like by Mike Lee.

00:50:58.000 What is the Senate Resolution 54?

00:51:00.000 I haven't heard.

00:51:01.000 What's the substance of it?

00:51:04.000 It's to stop, like literally us, because in violation of the War Powers Act.

00:51:08.000 It's actually written by Bernie.

00:51:11.000 Oh, that's right.

00:51:12.000 I actually, we talked a little bit about that on World Report last week.

00:51:16.000 That was Lee Sanders and I think Rand Paul, right?

00:51:20.000 Or Ted Cruz.

00:51:21.000 One of them.

00:51:23.000 I don't remember.

00:51:23.000 I literally think there's only one Republican on it last time I checked.

00:51:26.000 Maybe I'm thinking of the other thing.

00:51:28.000 But was this to rein in what was going on in Yemen?

00:51:31.000 Or is this a different one?

00:51:32.000 Yeah, it's so because it's implying that us fueling the Saudi jets and the Yemen airspace is like an act of war.

00:51:43.000 I think that's what the main premise is.

00:51:46.000 It's over.

00:51:46.000 Right.

00:51:48.000 Anyway, I've followed it for a while, but it just seems like they keep tabling it and stuff.

00:51:52.000 It's kind of useless.

00:51:54.000 Well, yeah, yeah.

00:51:55.000 They were actually reporting about this a lot on antiwar.com and how there was a big push in the Senate basically to rein in because right now there's, I think there are in Yemen and we are refueling.

00:52:10.000 We're working in concert with the United Arab Emirates in Yemen right now to take out Al Qaeda in the south of Yemen.

00:52:18.000 And the War Powers Resolution would say that would force the Pentagon essentially to.

00:52:24.000 To send all the troops that were not fighting Al Qaeda in Yemen back home.

00:52:29.000 Essentially, if they were fighting or helping the Saudi effort in the Yemeni civil war, that would be outside of the bounds of the authorization of force for the war on terror.

00:52:39.000 Because, you know, they basically said you can have guys fighting the terrorists in Yemen, you can't have them helping fight the civil war with the Saudis.

00:52:46.000 And they said refueling the planes was helping the Saudis.

00:52:49.000 And actually, the Pentagon forced all of them to back down on that resolution.

00:52:54.000 They forced it so that it's not going to come to a vote, it's basically been dropped.

00:52:58.000 Yeah, I think even Mattis wrote a letter or something to address them.

00:53:04.000 Yeah, something like, hey, you fellas better not do that.

00:53:08.000 Yeah, right.

00:53:08.000 Basically.

00:53:10.000 Yeah, well, I mean, you know why that is.

00:53:11.000 It's because, you know, as much as we'd like to think that Republicans are ideologically consistent on these kinds of things, at the end of the day, the war concerns Saudi Arabia's national security interests.

00:53:25.000 Saudi Arabia is heavily invested in our politics and our government.

00:53:30.000 And so, on the one hand, you can understand a national security and a strategic interest.

00:53:34.000 But on the other hand, you just follow the money.

00:53:36.000 And that's a big explanation.

00:53:37.000 It's the same reason why senators approved the $3.8 billion a year to Israel by a vote, I think it was 99 to one every time it happened.

00:53:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:53:47.000 Every time.

00:53:47.000 Yeah.

00:53:48.000 It's a shame.

00:53:50.000 It's got to change, you know?

00:53:52.000 I just wish the party that I mainly align myself with actually matched my views.

00:53:52.000 I agree.

00:53:59.000 It's not getting any of that.

00:54:00.000 And I especially see it when.

00:54:02.000 I guess it's the youthful presence that's going on right now.

00:54:06.000 And it's a different idea, like, especially having Yusuf on earlier, like, it helped me really think about, like, where do I stand on these positions?

00:54:15.000 And it's just really changing my politics because, I mean, I'm not just a bloodthirsty neocot anymore.

00:54:22.000 No, it's true.

00:54:22.000 I mean, I think a lot of people are realigning because these two parties no longer reflect where I think the two opinions are in America in the sense that the parties are supposed to communicate.

00:54:35.000 The most important fault lines in the country.

00:54:37.000 And now both of them are corporate and they're the same.

00:54:41.000 And on all the important issues, they have the same approach on immigration, on foreign policy, on trade.

00:54:45.000 It's all the same.

00:54:46.000 So I hear you, man.

00:54:48.000 I hear you.

00:54:50.000 All right, yeah, I'll let somebody else get in, man.

00:54:52.000 All right, well, take it easy.

00:54:53.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:54:54.000 Yeah, you too.

00:54:55.000 It was nice talking to you.

00:54:56.000 All right, take it easy, big guy.

00:54:57.000 See ya.

00:54:58.000 Bye.

00:54:59.000 All right, and a great call from Ozzy Mondias.

00:55:03.000 I've seen him forever.

00:55:03.000 He says he's been around.

00:55:05.000 He's been on Twitter.

00:55:08.000 He always DMs me, you up at 2 a.m., 3 a.m.

00:55:12.000 He's always DMing me that.

00:55:14.000 And it looks like somebody's telling me that it looks like there's going to be bombing in Syria.

00:55:20.000 So let me take a look.

00:55:21.000 Why don't we briefly check out the news here?

00:55:23.000 So maybe we could.

00:55:24.000 Yeah, here we go.

00:55:27.000 The Associated Press reports Trump to speak Friday night amid anticipation of retaliatory strike for the Syrian chemical attack.

00:55:37.000 And Spectator says the United States has taken the decision to bomb Syria.

00:55:41.000 So we'll keep an eye on this intermittently while we're taking calls.

00:55:45.000 Yep, they say that President Trump has authorized military strikes on the Syrian regime.

00:55:52.000 We'll see what the statement is.

00:55:53.000 I got to be honest, though, I'm not actually against strikes in Syria. 0.93

00:55:58.000 What I'm against is war.

00:55:59.000 You know, before people say Nick was wrong, Nick blown out, Nick is a neocon, I never said I was against strikes.

00:56:07.000 I was for the strike even last year, and you could go back and watch the show.

00:56:11.000 What I'm against is war.

00:56:12.000 I'm against a war to change the regime in Syria, I'm against a war against Assad, I'm against any kind of major intervention that would escalate into war with Russia.

00:56:23.000 But so long as it's a limited one off strike, it doesn't escalate, it doesn't turn into a war against Assad or larger involvement against Assad, I don't think anybody should have too much of a problem unless you're like a moralist in terms of your foreign policy that people dying is the end of the world.

00:56:42.000 But we'll take some other calls.

00:56:43.000 Hopefully, we'll get some people in here.

00:56:45.000 That actually might be a good angle. 0.95

00:56:46.000 We could get people in here to try and break my balls about it, but we'll see. 0.99

00:56:51.000 Let's grab Mr. Gen Z UK. 0.95

00:56:57.000 Hello, Mr. Generation Z.

00:57:01.000 Oh, hi, I got on.

00:57:02.000 Yes, yes.

00:57:04.000 Oi, mate.

00:57:05.000 What's on your mind tonight, big guy?

00:57:08.000 Well, originally I only had one question, but since the Ruskies are saying that we faked this gas attack now, I guess I'll ask what your hot take is on that.

00:57:20.000 But first, I just wanted to know as a Brit, if I was to ever be so lucky to move to the States.

00:57:29.000 Where would you recommend moving?

00:57:30.000 Where's still wholesome?

00:57:32.000 Where's still.

00:57:35.000 Yeah, I would say as a Briton moving over to the USA, I would say, you know, it depends on what you want.

00:57:45.000 I love where I live because it's my home, and I love my home.

00:57:49.000 I love where I live, but I would say it depends.

00:57:51.000 There are many different characteristics for all the different places.

00:57:54.000 I mean, pretty much if you're interested in urban, it doesn't really matter where you go in the sense that I think really the only difference is maybe the size of the city.

00:58:03.000 The weather, but for the most part, the cities are generally the same.

00:58:07.000 And demographically, there are a little bit, there's some unique ones like Miami, it's basically like Puerto Rico.

00:58:12.000 New York City depends on the neighborhood.

00:58:15.000 Boston, smaller.

00:58:16.000 But if you're a city person, I would recommend maybe something in the south, maybe something smaller.

00:58:22.000 LA, I'm not wild about except for the weather.

00:58:24.000 Suburbs are a great place.

00:58:26.000 I think the suburbs are always a winner, no matter where you go.

00:58:29.000 For the most part, I think the suburbs are great.

00:58:31.000 If you're looking at it for fiscal reasons, cost of living is very cheap, very low taxes in the south.

00:58:38.000 Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, Alabama. 0.91

00:58:40.000 Very cheap down there, very Christian, very wholesome, not very urban, which depending on what you're after, that could be good or bad. 0.97

00:58:48.000 The cities tend to be more expensive. 0.98

00:58:50.000 The blue states are expensive.

00:58:51.000 You can't own guns.

00:58:53.000 But that said, there's a lot more to do.

00:58:55.000 There's a lot more to eat.

00:58:56.000 A lot of different kinds of food and activities.

00:59:00.000 So it really depends on what you're after.

00:59:03.000 Depends on your preference.

00:59:04.000 I couldn't really tell you one place because it's dependent highly on what your priorities are.

00:59:09.000 Me, I'm increasingly wanting to move to California or rather move to California or Florida because I just can't take the winter anymore.

00:59:17.000 Can't take the cold anymore.

00:59:18.000 I just really can't do it.

00:59:20.000 It's too cold.

00:59:21.000 It's April. 0.80

00:59:22.000 And it's still 40 degrees, and I want to blow my brains out.

00:59:26.000 I want to, you know, become an hero, basically.

00:59:29.000 And, but by the same token, I want to have a gun, so it's going to be tough. 0.67

00:59:32.000 But on the other question about Britain being accused by Russia of having orchestrated the chemical attack in Syria, I definitely wouldn't put it past them.

00:59:43.000 It's just difficult to say, only because you have to wonder what is the British military involvement in Syria.

00:59:49.000 They don't, as far as the public is concerned, they don't.

00:59:53.000 Do not have a presence on the ground in Syria.

00:59:56.000 They don't have troops there.

00:59:58.000 I don't believe they've been doing major airstrikes where they say the chemical attack occurred.

01:00:03.000 ISIS is not near Douma for the most part.

01:00:05.000 They're in the east of the country.

01:00:07.000 So I don't know.

01:00:09.000 We would have to see what Putin's evidence is that Britain orchestrated it.

01:00:13.000 That said, I think somebody orchestrated it. 0.94

01:00:16.000 I would just maybe point the finger at Israel. 0.96

01:00:17.000 I think Israel would be more likely or our own government in the United States. 0.77

01:00:21.000 But who really knows?

01:00:23.000 Everybody's lying at this point.

01:00:25.000 Is Russia telling the truth?

01:00:26.000 Maybe, but I'd have to see evidence, right? 0.86

01:00:30.000 Well, yeah, that's a good point. 1.00

01:00:34.000 Well, sorry, I'm a bit hazed.

01:00:37.000 It's very late here, but thanks for talking to me, Nick.

01:00:40.000 Yeah, man.

01:00:41.000 Thanks for calling in.

01:00:42.000 Good talking to you.

01:00:44.000 Big fun.

01:00:45.000 Have a good night.

01:00:47.000 Sounds good, man.

01:00:47.000 All right.

01:00:48.000 Take it easy.

01:00:50.000 All right.

01:00:51.000 So that was, we got a little bit tired towards the end of that one, but that was okay.

01:00:51.000 Bye-bye.

01:00:56.000 Great questions.

01:00:58.000 And let me bring in, let's bring in my man, Brosif.

01:01:04.000 Hello, Mr. Brosif.

01:01:05.000 How's it going, big guy?

01:01:10.000 You there?

01:01:11.000 Or looks like we are.

01:01:14.000 We got to turn on the microphone over on the other end.

01:01:18.000 So let me drag in somebody else then.

01:01:21.000 Let's get in Chad Hunk.

01:01:23.000 That sounds like a winner.

01:01:24.000 Mr. Chad Hunk, you are on the air.

01:01:28.000 Hey, how's it going, Nick?

01:01:29.000 How's it going with you?

01:01:29.000 Good.

01:01:31.000 Pretty good, pretty good.

01:01:33.000 Yeah, that Yusuf dude was amazing.

01:01:35.000 It was a good chat.

01:01:36.000 Very solid guy.

01:01:37.000 Yeah, I'm a big fan of his now.

01:01:41.000 So I had a question on surviving the Black Pillars.

01:01:46.000 I feel like the serious situation, I feel like former Trump supporters are blackpilling, you know, like they're shilling, like they're paid to do it.

01:01:57.000 Yeah.

01:01:58.000 Well, you know, I would be the expert in surviving Black Pillars because I'm the number one target besides Trump of the Black Pillars. 0.77

01:02:05.000 And I think time is our best weapon against the black pillars in the sense that what happens is Trump says something they don't like, and within three days, it's completely proven wrong. 0.75

01:02:19.000 Within a week to two weeks, it's a joke that anybody even panicked in the first place. 0.97

01:02:24.000 And this is true with every incident, and every time it appears very hard.

01:02:31.000 Every time Trump says something we don't like and the black pill is out in full force, it's a very difficult time.

01:02:37.000 In September, When we heard that Trump was going to give up DACA in exchange for no wall funding, he was just going to give it away for free.

01:02:45.000 It was a really bad week to be a Trump supporter.

01:02:47.000 Or rather, it was a bad evening.

01:02:49.000 And then the next day, that turned out to be total fiction.

01:02:52.000 In January, when we heard about DACA, it was a horrible week to be a Trump supporter.

01:02:56.000 And then within the week, we heard it was nonsense.

01:02:59.000 Within a month, it was completely gone.

01:03:01.000 You know, after Trump said himself, it was all a gambit to get the Democrats to admit they didn't want DACA.

01:03:07.000 And on Syria, I think this too will pass. 0.51

01:03:09.000 I think it always does. 0.80

01:03:11.000 And, you know, we will join.

01:03:13.000 Unfortunately, we'll have to join the Black Pillars if it does escalate.

01:03:17.000 I always hold out, you know, for the sake of.

01:03:20.000 Of demonstrating that I'm not ideologically compromised, I always say if it ends up as bad as Black Pillars say, I will be criticizing Trump just as strongly, but we have to wait and see.

01:03:32.000 So people get very panicked.

01:03:34.000 If you're online, it's very easy for that to accelerate and compound and to get more and more panicked, but just wait and see what happens.

01:03:41.000 We have no control ultimately over our foreign policy.

01:03:46.000 A phone call only does so much.

01:03:47.000 I don't think it's going to dictate the course of action in the Middle East.

01:03:50.000 So if you can't do anything about it, wait, see what happens. 0.57

01:03:53.000 If it's really bad, Then you can black pill.

01:03:56.000 You can always criticize, but only until you see what happens can you say, okay, Trump has sold this out, Trump has shielded.

01:04:03.000 Criticize, pressure all you want, but wait until something happens to make a judgment.

01:04:07.000 And I think we'll do that in this case as well.

01:04:09.000 So is that a good answer?

01:04:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:13.000 I think I'm on the same page with you there.

01:04:15.000 One more question.

01:04:17.000 For a guy like me who wants a more traditional family, what age is it too old to live with your producers?

01:04:26.000 Oof.

01:04:27.000 You know, I will clarify: producers are not the parents.

01:04:30.000 I have hundreds of producers, and none of them are my parents.

01:04:34.000 They're just all over.

01:04:35.000 I'm in a studio in Vindication City.

01:04:37.000 I moved out a long time ago, and so this is actually all my own.

01:04:41.000 I have all kinds of Jewish producers who make sure that I'm saying the right things. 0.97

01:04:46.000 No, but on a serious note, I think in this day and age, people are stupid not to stay with their parents for a little bit longer after high school, only because. 0.99

01:04:57.000 You look at the cost of real estate these days, and the idea that, and also you look at wages, you look at jobs, and the idea that anybody should be moving out before they're able to start putting down money on a house is ridiculous. 0.96

01:05:12.000 Like, you know, you see people my age where if they're not my age and they're having the racist show in the basement, which I say that in a joking way, but they're in college.

01:05:23.000 And if they're in college, they're paying what, 50 grand for tuition, 30, 40, 50 grand for tuition?

01:05:29.000 They're paying rent.

01:05:30.000 And that money's just being thrown in the garbage.

01:05:32.000 They're not even building equity with that.

01:05:34.000 They're paying exorbitant amounts of money for food or booze or drugs or whatever.

01:05:38.000 And so the standard procedure is four years, you are just spending all kinds of money.

01:05:43.000 You come out of school, tons of money in debt.

01:05:46.000 Some people don't pay it off for 20, 25 years.

01:05:49.000 And a lot of times you look at college graduates, they're working in food service, they're working in retail, they're not working in these high paying professional jobs that they were led to believe that they would be.

01:06:00.000 I think I could move out.

01:06:02.000 You know, it's not like if this is a question about me or for anyone else, but I think while people could move out maybe at 19 or 20 or 21, I think it's always better to save your money so that you can buy something and then build equity.

01:06:15.000 I think that's a much smarter thing to do financially than to go to school, be throwing your money in the garbage, setting it on fire in the hopes that maybe you pay it off, maybe you get a high paying job.

01:06:26.000 And for a lot of people, even going to like a trade school is good.

01:06:29.000 But even in that case, save your money, stay at home, save your money.

01:06:33.000 Don't spend it on frivolous things.

01:06:34.000 Don't spend it on clothes and video games and booze or rent.

01:06:38.000 Save your money.

01:06:39.000 Spend time with your parents.

01:06:40.000 This is the traditional thing to do.

01:06:42.000 You should be out of the house by like 22, 23, 24.

01:06:46.000 You should be out of the house.

01:06:48.000 But it's different for everybody.

01:06:50.000 So I would just say, just look at the financial situation.

01:06:55.000 All right.

01:06:55.000 Well, thanks for taking my call.

01:06:56.000 Yeah.

01:06:57.000 And thanks for calling in.

01:06:58.000 Good to hear from you.

01:07:00.000 Have a good night.

01:07:01.000 Take it easy, big guy.

01:07:01.000 You too.

01:07:01.000 All right.

01:07:03.000 And let's see.

01:07:04.000 We'll get in.

01:07:05.000 Oh, it looks like Brosif got auto muted.

01:07:09.000 So that's why he was having trouble.

01:07:12.000 But let me see.

01:07:13.000 Let me drag in somebody else.

01:07:16.000 And it looks like strikes are underway, so we might have to stop and do a little breaking news.

01:07:21.000 Let's see.

01:07:21.000 This is from Columbia Bugle.

01:07:23.000 It says President Trump announces that a joint military operation with the UK and France is underway in Syria in response to the chemical attacks last week.

01:07:32.000 Let's see, actually, because I'm so good at technology, let's see if we could get the statement and watch it live on the air.

01:07:40.000 Trump, what would I even type into the YouTube search bar?

01:07:45.000 Trump, Syria.

01:07:47.000 And let's pull it up.

01:07:48.000 So it looks like it's live right now.

01:07:54.000 All right, so let's watch the live statement and then we could do a little live react, okay?

01:07:59.000 So let me go in here.

01:08:00.000 Let me just make sure all my tabs are okay.

01:08:03.000 Don't have any Kurt Eichenwald type stuff up here.

01:08:06.000 And I'll put it up on the screen here.

01:08:08.000 We'll do a display capture.

01:08:10.000 Bam.

01:08:12.000 Whoops.

01:08:13.000 And let's all watch and react together, shall we?

01:08:18.000 So let's bring it up.

01:08:19.000 I'll make sure the audio is working.

01:08:34.000 We're having a little trouble loading here.

01:08:35.000 I don't know what's the issue.

01:08:39.000 Maybe if I reload the page.

01:08:43.000 Epic advertisement.

01:08:45.000 I don't know why we're.

01:08:46.000 Maybe we're not going to do the.

01:08:50.000 Epic.

01:08:51.000 We can't do the technology.

01:08:52.000 We got the show running live the whole time in the background, but all of a sudden we want to put it live on the air, and suddenly we have a problem with the plugin.

01:09:02.000 That's all right.

01:09:02.000 It's okay.

01:09:04.000 Is there a reason we're not able to do this?

01:09:08.000 Usually it should do a pop up and say, you know, is there a reason you're experiencing interruptions right now?

01:09:16.000 Let's take a look.

01:09:19.000 This is Washington Post.

01:09:20.000 Have they just been goofing it up this whole time?

01:09:23.000 All right.

01:09:24.000 You know what?

01:09:24.000 Forget it.

01:09:25.000 Forget it.

01:09:26.000 We tried.

01:09:27.000 Doesn't look like it's going to work. 0.83

01:09:28.000 But anywho, I guess we have a strike in Syria.

01:09:31.000 We'll probably be reacting to that on the show tomorrow.

01:09:36.000 Or if I do a Fortnite stream, we could react to it tomorrow as well.

01:09:39.000 But let's get some more calls in there then.

01:09:41.000 And we'll see what people are saying.

01:09:43.000 Let's drag in an old favorite, Mr. Punished Saxon. 0.52

01:09:47.000 And I'm going to have to. 0.96

01:09:48.000 We've got a lot of people in here.

01:09:50.000 It's going to be tough to drag this guy in just because of how this works.

01:09:56.000 Okay, really?

01:10:04.000 Wow, I really, I just love technology.

01:10:07.000 Okay, there we go.

01:10:08.000 Finally got him on. 0.93

01:10:10.000 The Punished Saxon is with us.

01:10:14.000 How are you doing, big guy?

01:10:17.000 Hey, what's up, bud?

01:10:19.000 I'm driving right now, so excuse me, I might crash, kill myself, but it's all worth it to talk to my favorite live show host, Nicholas Quintes.

01:10:29.000 My man, my man, where are you driving to?

01:10:33.000 I'm leaving work.

01:10:35.000 I watch your show every day at work. 0.97

01:10:37.000 I'm going to get fired for being racist. 0.76

01:10:39.000 It's going to be great. 0.93

01:10:41.000 Yeah, that is great.

01:10:42.000 Hey, you got to do what you got to do, right?

01:10:45.000 This is your best show yet today.

01:10:46.000 I loved it.

01:10:48.000 Actually, never mind.

01:10:49.000 I'm actually kind of upset at you.

01:10:50.000 Because last time I called in, you said to me, you disavowed Nazbol gang. 0.88

01:10:55.000 And then today you bring in based Yusuf, Yusuf Stalin, the king of Nazbol. 0.89

01:11:00.000 And it sounds like you're converted to Nazbol gang. 0.89

01:11:05.000 I don't know if I'd call myself Nazbol, but I definitely am on board with the meme. 0.99

01:11:11.000 100%. 0.99

01:11:12.000 You're going to build a gulag in your backyard.

01:11:14.000 I can already see it now. 0.85

01:11:16.000 When we build the America First compound, once I start my breeding cult in the Western United States, I think we will have, I'll incorporate all kinds of elements.

01:11:26.000 We'll have Joe's bazookas. 0.88

01:11:27.000 We will have the Catboys. 1.00

01:11:29.000 We will have Nasbul gulags and things like that. 1.00

01:11:33.000 We'll have made bottle caps for currency. 0.96

01:11:35.000 That's right.

01:11:35.000 Bottle caps and laser pistols.

01:11:38.000 And it should be a good time.

01:11:41.000 Buy up a trailer park. 0.78

01:11:42.000 The traditionalist workers' party we're doing. 0.99

01:11:44.000 It'll be great.

01:11:45.000 Yeah, box.

01:11:46.000 We'll get plenty of boxes.

01:11:49.000 Yeah, it's good.

01:11:50.000 Cut boxes.

01:11:51.000 But so what's on your mind tonight, Mr. Saxon?

01:11:53.000 What's on your mind?

01:11:54.000 You can't stop thinking about Yusuf.

01:11:56.000 He's like a god amongst men.

01:11:57.000 He is the Julius Caesar of our time. 0.52

01:12:01.000 He's Hannibal.

01:12:02.000 He's Hannibal because he's from Carthage.

01:12:04.000 So he wouldn't be Hannibal.

01:12:07.000 Is that part of the Roman Empire or was it?

01:12:10.000 Well, Hannibal was leading, I believe he was leading Carthage.

01:12:14.000 But eventually, Northern Africa came under the dominion of Rome. 0.90

01:12:19.000 I wonder if Yusuf is like Rome Bowl. 0.98

01:12:21.000 He's part of the Rome Bowl.

01:12:23.000 Yeah, it could be.

01:12:25.000 Northern Africa, until it got overtaken by Saracens, it was once a thriving Western civilization.

01:12:31.000 I mean, Augustine came out of Northern Africa back in the day.

01:12:37.000 Now we get some real quality people.

01:12:41.000 But yeah, you're right.

01:12:42.000 He's something.

01:12:42.000 He's a.

01:12:45.000 He's a real talent.

01:12:46.000 We're going to have to bring him back on the show sometime.

01:12:49.000 He should become like a regular feature.

01:12:51.000 Like every Thursday could be a feast.

01:12:55.000 Yeah, that's good.

01:12:58.000 Or maybe he could start his own show that airs at the same time as yours and cuck you on views.

01:13:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:04.000 He'll pull a Baked Alaska and do that.

01:13:06.000 He'll pull an Andy Orr's.

01:13:07.000 Dude, you see Baked Alaska's tummy?

01:13:09.000 He's looking good. 0.56

01:13:11.000 He's got the Lucas physique.

01:13:12.000 He does.

01:13:13.000 Yeah, he's gone full Lucas Bowl.

01:13:15.000 He's taking the Lucas pill on physique.

01:13:20.000 And he was smoking weed in that stream, too.

01:13:22.000 It's not a good one.

01:13:23.000 I didn't see that.

01:13:24.000 Yeah, and he had a popular live streamer, Ice Poseidon, come to his house.

01:13:29.000 He promised him that there was going to be girls at his house, and Ice Poseidon got there, and then after 30 minutes left because there was one girl there and like five or six dudes.

01:13:40.000 That's funny.

01:13:41.000 Poor old Tim.

01:13:42.000 We liked him, though.

01:13:44.000 Tim's a friend of the show, but yeah, it's the smoking pot.

01:13:47.000 It's the LA mindset.

01:13:49.000 Yeah, he should have stayed in Alaska a little bit longer to get away from that LA crowd.

01:13:56.000 They're not a good influence on him.

01:13:58.000 Bad influence.

01:14:02.000 Can you just imagine that guy in the Alaskan wind, winter, swimming in an icy pool?

01:14:08.000 That'd be hot.

01:14:10.000 You need that physique up in Alaska.

01:14:12.000 Yeah, you need it to survive, to fight off whatever it is the Russians, the Meese, the Bears.

01:14:20.000 But anyway, did you have a question, or are you just here to goof off and be.

01:14:25.000 I have to make this show good because all the call in people are really boring.

01:14:31.000 So, I'm like, I'm basically the best part of your Friday.

01:14:34.000 Oh, yeah, you're really the high energy one here.

01:14:37.000 No, but, well, but do you have, or are you just.

01:14:41.000 I'll leave.

01:14:43.000 No question.

01:14:44.000 That's all right.

01:14:45.000 Let me think of a question.

01:14:48.000 What's your thoughts on Assad's beautiful blue eyes? 0.98

01:14:53.000 I like Assad, and it's unfortunate that things are the way that they are, but I think that if he was brown, the lids would be like against the war, but since he's like a pure Aryan, they're. 0.98

01:15:05.000 With killing him, could be to be honest. 0.99

01:15:08.000 That's the thing, he's literally descendant from Mark Antony and Cleopatra. 0.95

01:15:13.000 His name means the lion, he's the lion of Damascus.

01:15:18.000 Wow, he's a great man.

01:15:20.000 I am unironically pro Assad, but also, I love our country more. 0.80

01:15:27.000 So, but okay, bye. 0.55

01:15:31.000 All right, buddy.

01:15:32.000 Yeah, thanks.

01:15:32.000 Love you too.

01:15:33.000 Bye bye.

01:15:34.000 Great.

01:15:35.000 A high energy call from Mr. Saxon.

01:15:38.000 Definitely some good stuff.

01:15:40.000 We'll get, I think, a few more, and then we'll call it night.

01:15:43.000 We'll probably call it at 7, or rather 8 25, because we want to get into coverage of this strike.

01:15:50.000 Let's see if there's, because I'm so interested in what's going on in Syria.

01:15:55.000 And let's see.

01:15:57.000 Spectator Index says massive blasts heard in Damascus.

01:16:02.000 President Trump says strikes are a direct result of Russia's failure to keep Syria's Assad from using chemical weapons.

01:16:10.000 And let's see what else.

01:16:12.000 Mike Cernovich says, Cheers to World War III.

01:16:15.000 He's not looking so hot lately.

01:16:16.000 I don't know what's going on with him.

01:16:19.000 Breaking 911, Trump says, U.S. allies prepared for a sustained response until the Syrian government stops the use of chemical weapons.

01:16:27.000 Okay, see that I'm against.

01:16:29.000 That I'm big against.

01:16:31.000 But we'll see how this plays out.

01:16:32.000 This is not looking good, folks.

01:16:34.000 This is not.

01:16:36.000 But again, we'll see what happens.

01:16:37.000 I'm not really thrilled about what's been said so far about a sustained attack.

01:16:42.000 That's the one thing.

01:16:44.000 That we didn't want.

01:16:45.000 We wanted limited one off.

01:16:47.000 If it becomes long term, no good.

01:16:50.000 No good.

01:16:51.000 He's out.

01:16:53.000 Spectator Index says smoke rising from the eastern part of Damascus, which would be, I believe, the pro government side.

01:17:00.000 And let's see what else we have heard.

01:17:04.000 Military sites in the east of Damascus appear to have been targeted by US led military attacks.

01:17:09.000 So there you go.

01:17:11.000 Yeah, it's unfortunate.

01:17:12.000 It's unfortunate.

01:17:13.000 I'm not even going to hide my dismay here.

01:17:16.000 No wall, no immigration stuff, but it looks like possibly a war in Syria.

01:17:22.000 But not against Trump just yet.

01:17:25.000 We got to wait until the smoke clears before we make a final judgment.

01:17:30.000 But I will say I am not too pleased.

01:17:35.000 War engagement is happening in north and south of Damascus.

01:17:39.000 No reports of what's been hit, but many missiles were downed.

01:17:42.000 So it looks like early reports are suggesting that it could be possible that Russia has intercepted cruise missiles from the United States.

01:17:51.000 WikiLeaks says US, UK, France claim that have launched a combined military attack against Syria.

01:17:58.000 All three countries recently visited by Saudi Arabia Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

01:18:04.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:18:05.000 There's your answer.

01:18:08.000 And the Pentagon will brief reporters at 10 p.m. Eastern Standard.

01:18:12.000 So we probably won't get too many answers until 9 o'clock my time.

01:18:16.000 And we'll see.

01:18:17.000 But folks, going on the record as saying I still trust Trump doesn't look good right now.

01:18:23.000 Does not look good.

01:18:25.000 And I will wait until we see the results to make a final judgment.

01:18:32.000 British MP says there is no alternative to military action in Syria.

01:18:36.000 I think there is an alternative, but we'll see what happens.

01:18:40.000 And President Trump from a statement tonight this is the last statement I'll read before I take calls.

01:18:45.000 Tonight I ask all Americans to say a prayer for our noble warriors and our allies as they carry out their missions.

01:18:51.000 We pray that God will bring comfort to those suffering in Syria.

01:18:54.000 It's kind of hard to do that when we're directly contributing to it.

01:18:58.000 A little bit of a hypocritical thing to say there, but nevertheless, pray for the troops.

01:19:03.000 Forget about whether it's good or bad in Syria when we talk about the troops because they are there sacrificing no matter what.

01:19:12.000 We'll take one more call, one or two more calls, and then we'll call it.

01:19:16.000 It's a disappointing evening, I must say.

01:19:18.000 We had Mr. Youssef, and that was a big white pill. 1.00

01:19:21.000 Syria is looking to be a black pill, but again, I will refrain from making a final judgment until we see the results. 0.80

01:19:27.000 If the result is escalation with Russia, sustained war in Syria.

01:19:33.000 Then that's not going to be good.

01:19:35.000 I will be against that, and I'll be against Trump for doing that.

01:19:39.000 But we'll take in Mr. Brosif, and that'll be one of our final callers here.

01:19:44.000 And I'll unmute him here.

01:19:45.000 Nick, can you hear me?

01:19:46.000 I can hear you, Mr. Brosif.

01:19:47.000 What's going on?

01:19:48.000 Yes.

01:19:49.000 Nick, how are you doing, man?

01:19:50.000 Doing well.

01:19:51.000 How are you doing?

01:19:53.000 I'm good.

01:19:54.000 Well, this all Syria news is very interesting stuff.

01:19:57.000 I'm sure you want to talk about that.

01:19:58.000 But I have a slightly unrelated question.

01:19:59.000 Is that all right?

01:20:00.000 Yeah, sure.

01:20:02.000 So, my question is a general question about young men in the movement.

01:20:07.000 As the kind of a gateway to put it, the movement.

01:20:10.000 But, you know, people who are nationalist right, what can young men who are opposed to hedonistic actions do to have fun?

01:20:17.000 Like, you can't go out drinking.

01:20:18.000 You can't really stay inside playing video games all day.

01:20:21.000 What are our options?

01:20:22.000 You can go out drinking.

01:20:24.000 I've never been against drinking.

01:20:25.000 I personally don't drink.

01:20:26.000 But I really think that people can have fun without excess.

01:20:32.000 My problem is excess, you know.

01:20:34.000 People can go out, have a good time.

01:20:36.000 And I don't want to be like the fun police, like, you can do this, you can't do that.

01:20:39.000 I'm the arbiter of what is traditional.

01:20:40.000 But I think.

01:20:41.000 To speak for traditionalism, I would say that it's perfectly all right to be with women and to drink and all that. 0.58

01:20:49.000 The problem is when that's every night, that's every day, or when it's on the weekends, you get blackout drunk and it's sex, you know, multiple times a week or with loose women.

01:20:58.000 I mean, that's when it becomes a problem.

01:21:00.000 I don't think anybody has a problem with you having a drink with friends, you go to a party, you have a beer or two.

01:21:05.000 But the problem is when you see in this country where people go off to these frat parties and they come out in a stretcher or they come out in a body bag, you know, that's.

01:21:14.000 Where it becomes an issue.

01:21:15.000 Or you see with many college kids where they're drinking on a weeknight, they're drinking on a Tuesday, a Wednesday, a Thursday, they're smoking pot when they should be studying or doing something like that.

01:21:24.000 I mean, that's, I think, where you have to draw the line.

01:21:26.000 I don't think anybody would say, some people would say, you shouldn't drink, you shouldn't do any of that.

01:21:32.000 And I certainly would be one of those people where, for me, I've personally made that decision, but I don't think there is anything that is totally wrong with having fun.

01:21:42.000 It's just you gotta have it in moderation.

01:21:45.000 It can't become the focus.

01:21:46.000 It can't be consuming, you know?

01:21:48.000 So I think that would be.

01:21:49.000 Is that a good answer?

01:21:52.000 Yeah, I mean, I pretty much completely agree.

01:21:54.000 I'm much more opposed to the degeneracy.

01:21:56.000 I don't partake in it at all.

01:21:57.000 I think that young men should be getting involved in their church, Knights of the Columbus, things like that.

01:22:02.000 But great answer.

01:22:04.000 So thank you for that.

01:22:05.000 Sure, sure.

01:22:06.000 And thanks for calling in, big guy.

01:22:07.000 Take it easy.

01:22:08.000 And if you're taking one more call, I think Dirt Kevin has a question for you.

01:22:12.000 Great.

01:22:13.000 I'll take Mr. Kevin.

01:22:15.000 Have a good show.

01:22:15.000 All right.

01:22:16.000 All right.

01:22:16.000 You too.

01:22:17.000 Well, you have a good evening.

01:22:19.000 Yeah.

01:22:19.000 Bye bye.

01:22:19.000 Thanks.

01:22:21.000 Let's see.

01:22:22.000 So Dragon Dirt Kevin, he'll be our last guy on this solemn night as we reflect and observe on what's happening abroad.

01:22:30.000 Mr. Kevin.

01:22:32.000 Hey, how's it going?

01:22:34.000 Going, it's going all right.

01:22:36.000 Going just all right.

01:22:37.000 How's it going with you?

01:22:39.000 Good, you know, got the auto clicker out and trying to get in the show.

01:22:42.000 You know, how's it going?

01:22:46.000 Still going all right, my man.

01:22:48.000 What's on your mind tonight? 1.00

01:22:50.000 Yeah, so I sort of had a question about all these Mexicans and such coming to the country. 1.00

01:22:59.000 You know, why can't we just like catch bait them? 1.00

01:23:04.000 Yeah, here we go.

01:23:05.000 Yeah.

01:23:07.000 We've heard this joke before, Mr. Kevin.

01:23:09.000 I'm just kidding, mate.

01:23:11.000 Do you have a real question? 0.99

01:23:14.000 Damn, I should have thought of a real question. 0.99

01:23:17.000 I thought I had a real question. 0.99

01:23:19.000 You're on thin ice in the surfer, Dirt Kevin.

01:23:21.000 I'm sorry.

01:23:23.000 I did want to come on and break bread after the last time.

01:23:26.000 I think things got a bit unpleasant, and I didn't intend for that.

01:23:32.000 Actually, I sort of did want to talk about the counter signaling thing.

01:23:37.000 You know, yes, yes, yes, right.

01:23:40.000 Yeah, basically, I've thought about that.

01:23:43.000 I think you know, you had some good points, and I still sort of you know hold that position.

01:23:48.000 But basically, what I think I was thinking was that you were, I had a problem with counter signaling, but what my actual problem was with was with you were counter signaling people who I liked, basically.

01:24:05.000 And you know, I don't have a problem with counter signaling people.

01:24:10.000 That was what I thought I had a problem with.

01:24:11.000 So I've sort of changed my stance on that.

01:24:15.000 There you go.

01:24:16.000 You see, Nick is mostly right.

01:24:18.000 And it's a matter of time for people to come around.

01:24:21.000 I'm not against, you know, counter.

01:24:23.000 I'm for disagreements.

01:24:25.000 I'm for fights.

01:24:26.000 I'm for arguments.

01:24:27.000 But the thing is, for the most part, I don't attack people unless they attack me.

01:24:31.000 People say I have this problem of burning bridges.

01:24:34.000 I'm an island, all this kind of thing.

01:24:36.000 If people attack me, I attack them.

01:24:38.000 If they don't attack me, for the most part, I don't attack them.

01:24:40.000 And in every instance, That's the case.

01:24:42.000 And it's funny because people say, you burn bridges with everyone.

01:24:45.000 And I'll say, well, but you look in every case and they start the drama.

01:24:50.000 They attack me.

01:24:51.000 They do something.

01:24:52.000 They instigate it.

01:24:53.000 And then the response is, well, it doesn't matter who started it.

01:24:55.000 Okay, well, then which is it then?

01:24:57.000 Is it I start all the fights or I end all the fights?

01:24:59.000 You know?

01:25:00.000 No, yeah.

01:25:00.000 So.

01:25:01.000 Well, I mean, there is.

01:25:03.000 I think Mike Enoch raised this point when you and him debated the optics question, which is like whether you should have those conversations in private or in public.

01:25:13.000 And I think that's, you know, maybe I think a little bit more in private, but I get it if they're counter signaling you.

01:25:21.000 I get it for like James or for Paul Nathan.

01:25:24.000 I certainly get counter signaling those two.

01:25:27.000 What was your contention with Richard Spencer originally?

01:25:32.000 Well, I believe it was, if we could go back.

01:25:35.000 I mean, that's really a complicated one because that one goes way back and there are lots of episodes.

01:25:41.000 You know, I tried to mostly.

01:25:44.000 Take it easy on him, except for the fact that you'll recall I got a pretty unpleasant phone call from him one evening where he had some choice things to say.

01:25:54.000 And that was basically it.

01:25:58.000 Because we had obvious disagreements about ideology, about strategy, about goals.

01:26:03.000 I mean, we really were.

01:26:05.000 And he himself conceded for people that say, no, you didn't.

01:26:08.000 You're basically the same.

01:26:09.000 He himself conceded that these were very different elements of the dissident right coalition.

01:26:15.000 I mean, we came at it from very different perspectives.

01:26:17.000 And he himself said it was productive that there was conversation between the two.

01:26:21.000 And I agreed.

01:26:22.000 But then obviously there was that clip that came out where he was basically framed as being in favor of child porn or something to that effect.

01:26:31.000 And I said, you know, look, and there wasn't so much accusing him of being in favor of that, but I said that you would talk about this so flippantly that you would characterize pedophilia as a character flaw.

01:26:43.000 And this is what I said in the tweet.

01:26:45.000 I said, that's.

01:26:46.000 Reflective of what it is to be secular.

01:26:49.000 And he took that as me accusing him, and that turned into a whole big thing.

01:26:53.000 But it's all resolved now.

01:26:54.000 It's all good.

01:26:55.000 Most of the bridges, most of the relationships have been patched up. 0.98

01:26:58.000 People have realized they've been silly.

01:27:00.000 You know, for the most part, I'm on good terms with just about everybody, with few exceptions that I've fought with in the past.

01:27:06.000 And the people I have fought with in the past, it's not because I haven't been unwilling to forgive and forget, it's because they haven't.

01:27:13.000 You know, I've had people, red elephants, Enoch, Spencer, all of them, who.

01:27:19.000 Back on good terms, back on, I think, a reasonable place. 0.98

01:27:24.000 But people like James Alsup still busting my balls.

01:27:27.000 You know, I still own 33% of the company, and he's still essentially, and this is, I'm not using this in totally strict language, but he has effectively stolen the company and the money. 0.95

01:27:40.000 I'm using that very loosely.

01:27:42.000 I don't mean that in the strict sense of the word, and I have to say that because of legal reasons, but there's a real issue there, and I would be willing to resolve it.

01:27:51.000 He's hiding behind lawyers about it, and if that's the way it's going to be, then obviously it makes it tougher to reconcile.

01:27:57.000 Tara McCarthy has me blocked on Twitter. 1.00

01:27:59.000 Millennial Woes is a fag. 1.00

01:28:00.000 I would never want to even reunite with him, anyways. 1.00

01:28:03.000 But yeah, that's the counter signal question.

01:28:06.000 Yesterday, actually, I was permanently banned from James Alsop's server, funny enough.

01:28:11.000 Really?

01:28:11.000 Yeah, they're really going down the hill.

01:28:14.000 I have been pretty amicable towards both sides this whole split.

01:28:19.000 I was still in both servers, but Meme Brulee, he gave me the kick yesterday.

01:28:23.000 Hmm.

01:28:24.000 For no reason.

01:28:25.000 Well, you know, mean brûlé.

01:28:27.000 Do you really want to be in a server with that guy? 1.00

01:28:29.000 It was almost unbearable being in the same server as that faggot. 1.00

01:28:29.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

01:28:34.000 Excuse me, okay.

01:28:34.000 Yeah.

01:28:35.000 No, he's a fatty and he's a goofball. 0.97

01:28:38.000 You know, it's always funny these people act so tough and then you see what they look like and it's like, yeah, okay, that makes sense. 0.96

01:28:44.000 But it looks like we're going to call it a night here on 8 30.

01:28:46.000 So you get the distinction being the final caller.

01:28:50.000 I'm glad I could make up with you and sort of clear things up about the optics thing.

01:28:54.000 It was good.

01:28:54.000 Definitely.

01:28:55.000 Definitely.

01:28:55.000 I agree.

01:28:56.000 But thanks for calling in.

01:28:57.000 Thanks for coming on.

01:28:59.000 Yeah, you too.

01:29:00.000 Or not for calling in.

01:29:01.000 See you.

01:29:02.000 See you.

01:29:03.000 Take it easy.

01:29:04.000 Well, there you have it.

01:29:04.000 All right.

01:29:06.000 Another fun call in show.

01:29:07.000 A great guest.

01:29:08.000 An exciting show.

01:29:10.000 Tragic things are happening in the world.

01:29:11.000 It's tough.

01:29:12.000 We'll see what happens, folks.

01:29:14.000 We'll see what happens.

01:29:15.000 You can't make a judgment until it concludes.

01:29:17.000 And we made the same mistake.

01:29:19.000 Somebody's joined in.

01:29:21.000 Get out of there.

01:29:22.000 I'm going to hang up on this call so people can't.

01:29:25.000 Join in there.

01:29:27.000 But as I was saying, we made the same rush to judgment on Sunday. 1.00

01:29:31.000 We found out it was the Israelis. 0.96

01:29:33.000 This time we know it's us, but we have to see what the scope of the attack is, the duration, and then a judgment will be made. 0.99

01:29:39.000 I have to say, I'm not pleased with it.

01:29:42.000 The rhetoric that we're hearing about a sustained attack, no good.

01:29:47.000 No good.

01:29:47.000 I am not on board with that.

01:29:49.000 If that's the Trump position, I am not on board with that.

01:29:52.000 But like I said, we'll see.

01:29:54.000 I still trust Trump, and I think in the end, we'll have to judge what happens once the bombing and all the rest concludes, once we see a resolution to this.

01:30:04.000 But that's going to do it for us here on the show tonight.

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - April 13, 2018

A Conservative Worker's Party feat. Yousef | America First Ep. 145

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