America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - A Pro-Natal Gameplan for America | America First Ep. 8

00:00:01.000 Good evening, everybody.

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00:00:04.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes, and we have a very good episode for you tonight.

00:00:08.000 We are back for our second week.

00:00:11.000 It's our sixth episode, and so it's going to be high energy, high energy episode, high energy week planned for us this week.

00:00:19.000 We've been talking to several guests.

00:00:21.000 We're going to try and get Faith Goldie on the program either this week or next week.

00:00:26.000 We have someone to come on and talk about Richard Wagner either this week or next week, and many other good guests lined up.

00:00:32.000 It's going to be A very exciting couple of weeks here on America First.

00:00:36.000 So, thank you everybody for joining us this week again.

00:00:41.000 Now, before I get started, I want to say quickly a brief shout out, a brief thank you to everybody that's donated to me.

00:00:47.000 I didn't think anybody would be donating, but all kinds of people have been donating to my PayPal on my website, to my Patreon that you can find on my Twitter, by the way.

00:00:57.000 And really, it's just been very encouraging to see because, you know, I don't do this for money, obviously.

00:01:02.000 There's not a lot of ad revenue in doing a show that gets about 1,000 views per episode, there's not a lot of money in. 0.96

00:01:08.000 Bancing women, conservathots on Twitter all day. 0.99

00:01:13.000 You know, so I'm not in it for the money. 1.00

00:01:14.000 I do it because I care, because, you know, we have to fix this country.

00:01:19.000 And if people aren't out there doing it, it's not going to get done, obviously.

00:01:22.000 But any little bit helps.

00:01:24.000 So I really appreciate it.

00:01:25.000 Really a huge thank you.

00:01:27.000 God bless you to everybody that did.

00:01:29.000 I really, from the bottom of my heart, I appreciate it.

00:01:31.000 So thank you to those folks.

00:01:33.000 And then another real quick thing before we get into the news of the day and some of the things I've been saying on Twitter and Things that are going on with Gab and with DACA and North Korea.

00:01:44.000 I mean, it's been a busy weekend.

00:01:46.000 But before we jump into the news, the current events, I saw something today on Twitter which was very disturbing, to say the least.

00:01:54.000 I saw, and this was supported by, I think the Associated Press was the source for this, but somebody tweeted that high schoolers today, high schoolers in 2017, are more anxious than insane asylum patients from the 1950s.

00:02:10.000 I saw this on my Twitter timeline.

00:02:12.000 It was kind of a bummer.

00:02:14.000 You know, because it was a pretty nice day out.

00:02:16.000 I'm sitting out on the deck, you know, the dog's running around and he's chasing the rabbit, and it's a nice day.

00:02:22.000 And then you go on Twitter and you, I think it really hits you that this is a very anxious time.

00:02:28.000 This is a very dark time.

00:02:30.000 When we see a number like that, when you really put, I think, a face to it, you put a number to it, and you really get a quantitative grasp of this condition that I think we all understand, that I think we all have felt for a very long time, this anxiety of our time.

00:02:48.000 And I think you can see this really in all aspects where we are longing for the past.

00:02:53.000 And me and James Alsup covered this a little bit on Nationalist Review over the weekend.

00:02:58.000 We do a podcast and we were talking about this over the weekend how we watch our old television shows.

00:03:03.000 We watch Leave It to Beaver, The Wonder Years, Andy Griffith's show.

00:03:09.000 And we look at the 1950s or the 60s or the 70s, even the 80s, and we say that America made a lot more sense back then.

00:03:17.000 America was a lot nicer back then.

00:03:19.000 There was something about those times which.

00:03:22.000 Although there were other things going on, which were, of course, unsavory and blot on our history things, it was a time that made sense.

00:03:29.000 It was a time that, you know, you knew your direction in life.

00:03:33.000 You knew your place in the country, in the society.

00:03:37.000 And I think you could see this all over the place where a lot of young people and adolescent people are looking to old movies, old music, old things, and even Donald Trump's slogan when he ran for president, make America great again.

00:03:51.000 I think what was implicit in that, I think what was really.

00:03:55.000 Underlying that slogan and its appeal was that we're all sort of in limbo right now.

00:04:00.000 We're in this age of anxiety where we don't know where we're going.

00:04:04.000 We don't know what we're doing anything for anymore.

00:04:07.000 You know, we won the Cold War.

00:04:09.000 We're in the Middle East still. 0.69

00:04:11.000 I mean, what is there to do?

00:04:12.000 We don't have a space program.

00:04:14.000 And we're in this limbo where nothing really means anything and everything's absurd.

00:04:19.000 And yet we toil endlessly day after day.

00:04:22.000 And every day on the news, something horrible is happening, whether it's a race riot or someone's getting killed.

00:04:27.000 And I don't know.

00:04:29.000 It just says something about the time.

00:04:30.000 But I guess that's a pretty grim opener.

00:04:34.000 But.

00:04:34.000 Just some opening thoughts.

00:04:35.000 I'm scrolling through the timeline and I say, you know, wow, there's something really broken about the status quo.

00:04:41.000 And I think what we can learn from that, I think what's constructive about talking about that and realizing that is then we can start to convince people and using those feelings, which are pretty universal, I think we could start to convince people that radical change is necessary.

00:04:57.000 Because if you go up to your regular person, if you're in like McDonald's or you're in Wendy's and people are enjoying whatever the hell they're eating, you know, the chili, I'm not going to pretend I don't enjoy it too, but people are sitting there and they're eating and they don't want to be bothered. 0.84

00:05:13.000 If you go up to somebody and say, hey, look, we need radical change in the country because homosexuals and there's absurdities and transvestites are roaming the streets, you come off as kind of a crazy person.

00:05:25.000 But I think if you carry out this message, which appeals to this disenfranchised, disillusioned population, which is to say, look, this isn't working for anybody. 0.91

00:05:36.000 There's this.

00:05:37.000 This feeling of dread, a visceral feeling of dread, which saturates everything these days.

00:05:44.000 I think that's the ticket.

00:05:45.000 And I think that's what's constructive about talking about it is to say, you know, to your average person, your average regular Joe who's not interested in metaphysics or politics or Evola or anything like that, to say, you know, look, don't you think something's wrong?

00:05:59.000 Don't you feel like 20 or 30 years ago, it was just better in an indescribable way?

00:06:06.000 I think that's the ticket.

00:06:07.000 But anyway, Anyway, onwards and upwards, on to the topics of the day.

00:06:12.000 I want to talk real quickly before we get into Gab.

00:06:15.000 I want to talk about Gab.

00:06:16.000 I want to talk about DACA.

00:06:18.000 And if there's time, we'll talk about North Korea.

00:06:21.000 But before we get into the current events, I have to get into some of my comments today or over the weekend on Twitter, where last night in particular, as many in the alt right know, Hunter Wallace was saying some pretty controversial stuff.

00:06:35.000 Hunter Wallace of the Occidental Observer.

00:06:39.000 Now, I don't think I've ever met Hunter Wallace personally.

00:06:42.000 I don't know him that well.

00:06:43.000 We've been following each other on Twitter for a while.

00:06:46.000 But he was saying basically that the American aesthetic, and this is an argument I think that's been going on in the alt right for some time.

00:06:53.000 Hunter Wallace said that the American aesthetic might be off putting to normies and people in the alt right.

00:07:00.000 Because he said, in his own words, that the American flag represents to many people in this movement a hostile regime.

00:07:07.000 The American flag represents a hostile regime.

00:07:10.000 That wants to get rid of our people and combat our interests and all of that. 1.00

00:07:14.000 And that's a fair point. 1.00

00:07:15.000 I understand.

00:07:16.000 I think we can all understand where that's motivated, where the motivation is there.

00:07:21.000 Because certainly people that look at the American government and who controls the American government and the American Congress and where two thirds of our congressmen go every year for a conference to hear from certain lobbyists from certain countries.

00:07:34.000 So we can understand where he's coming from that the U.S. government probably isn't a friend of ours.

00:07:39.000 I think it's a totally separate issue when you're talking about the flag, but you understand where he's coming from.

00:07:45.000 And I said yesterday, I believe, last night, that the alt-right is not going to be a mass political movement.

00:07:55.000 And a lot of people said I was punching right.

00:07:57.000 A lot of people said I was criticizing the alt right or I was hitting people that got me where I was.

00:08:02.000 And I want to clarify before we go further into the subject, I'm not punching the alt right.

00:08:07.000 I'm not punching right.

00:08:09.000 I'm not saying anything about their ideology.

00:08:11.000 I'm not saying anything about the people.

00:08:14.000 My criticism of the alt right is purely a tactical criticism.

00:08:18.000 It's a constructive criticism.

00:08:20.000 You know, if you have a kid and he's playing T-ball, And he's not swinging the bat correctly, you know, he's chopping at it or he's swinging five seconds too soon.

00:08:30.000 If you go up and you say, hey, buddy, you know, you really, you got to choke up and you got to make sure your knuckles align, nobody would say you're punching your kid.

00:08:37.000 Nobody would say, you hate your kid. 0.91

00:08:38.000 You're not, you're not, you're a traitor to your kid. 0.99

00:08:41.000 You have evil intentions with your child.

00:08:44.000 You're giving constructive criticism.

00:08:46.000 And my criticism last night is motivated by something which, again, I think a lot of people feel in the alt right as well.

00:08:52.000 A lot of people in the alt right feel this way about the flag, but I think.

00:08:56.000 Probably more people feel a certain way about the alt right that there isn't a direction.

00:09:01.000 There isn't a goal.

00:09:02.000 There isn't a plan.

00:09:04.000 And I think that's a problem.

00:09:05.000 And I'm not saying that that's because there's bad people in the alt right.

00:09:09.000 I'm not saying that's because the alt right hasn't been working hard because these people have made incredible sacrifices for what they believe in.

00:09:16.000 I mean, really, Richard Spencer is a very wealthy person.

00:09:19.000 And, you know, I think a lot of what he does is for his own publicity.

00:09:23.000 But the foot soldiers, the people that are on the ground organizing these things, Doing work behind the scenes.

00:09:29.000 I mean, these are people that are making really tremendous sacrifices.

00:09:32.000 Even if you don't agree with them, I mean, they're sacrificing friends, loved ones, employment opportunities, all kinds of social capital in America to do tireless, thankless work for what they think is right for the country.

00:09:46.000 So, you know, that's not a criticism of the people in the movement.

00:09:51.000 But it is to say that when you look at the alt right, when you look at Charlottesville, when you look at the sacrifices that are being made, it's hard for me to see after Charlottesville.

00:10:00.000 What is the game plan?

00:10:02.000 Where we're all basically on the same page as to what the problem is.

00:10:06.000 We're all basically on the same page in that we read the same books, we go on the same websites, we share the same memes, we share the same jokes.

00:10:13.000 It's basically the same network, same organizations.

00:10:16.000 But what's the plan?

00:10:17.000 What are people waking up and doing today or tomorrow to further the agenda?

00:10:22.000 With Republicans and Democrats, they have student organizations on campuses and they're growing rapidly and they're doing things.

00:10:28.000 And with political organizations, they're winning elections and they're fundraising and they're setting things up like that.

00:10:35.000 But with the alt right, you hear a lot of talk about ideas and philosophy, and that's necessary.

00:10:41.000 And the alt right is necessary for that.

00:10:45.000 But I think that if you want to get that off the ground, if you want to turn that into pragmatic outcomes, you have to create a parallel organization to fix these problems, to address these in a palatable way to a mass audience, for mass appeal.

00:11:00.000 And many people turn their noses up at that.

00:11:02.000 They say, we're appealing to normies, we're cucking.

00:11:04.000 I'm not saying that's what we do.

00:11:06.000 The alt right does what it does, but the alt right.

00:11:09.000 Is for thinking.

00:11:10.000 The alt right is for discussion.

00:11:12.000 The alt right is to raise awareness.

00:11:14.000 But beyond that raising awareness, there's not really a game plan for how we're going to shift the Silverton window, how we're going to do it besides the offensive means and the rallies.

00:11:25.000 And so that's why I propose that we take it in a new direction.

00:11:29.000 And this isn't anything new.

00:11:30.000 People have pointed this out.

00:11:31.000 But we take it in a new direction where it's focused on the implicit policies that would advance the explicit goals of the alt right.

00:11:40.000 And I will show you what I mean by this because many people are saying, Oh, so you mean the alt right?

00:11:45.000 Oh, so you mean the alt?

00:11:46.000 No, no, no.

00:11:47.000 Here's what I mean by this, okay?

00:11:49.000 And I made a handy dandy little table here.

00:11:52.000 I know that messes with the white balance. 0.92

00:11:54.000 I know I look a little darker because I show this. 0.54

00:11:57.000 Here, wait.

00:11:58.000 Yeah, see how that works?

00:11:59.000 But anyway, try not to get distracted by that.

00:12:02.000 So here's my chart, all right?

00:12:05.000 Here is the problem as it stands that we all agree on.

00:12:08.000 The problem is demographic replacement.

00:12:10.000 I believe that's why everyone was in Charlottesville.

00:12:13.000 We can argue about who's responsible for demographic replacement.

00:12:18.000 Who could that be that's at the top of all these organizations and media and government that's making this happen?

00:12:23.000 Those are the culprits.

00:12:24.000 But the problem is this.

00:12:26.000 The problem is very simply that you have two components. 1.00

00:12:30.000 You have a low native birth rate and a high foreign birth rate. 0.97

00:12:34.000 You have a native population that is below the replacement rate in terms of their fertility rate.

00:12:40.000 On average, you can look at the United States or any country in Europe, and the birth rate for natives is between 1.1 and 1.7.

00:12:49.000 The replacement rate is 2.1 children per family.

00:12:53.000 So all Western countries are below that number.

00:12:57.000 So that's one component. 0.94

00:12:59.000 That wouldn't be a problem if you didn't have the mass immigration, mass immigration of foreign born immigrants.

00:13:05.000 And the problem with this is that you bring over, and we know this, you bring over millions of people, and depending on what country they're from, they can have a birth rate that's 2.5 or 7 or 8, depending on the country.

00:13:18.000 And so naturally, this problem is one of two variables.

00:13:22.000 It's an equation, essentially.

00:13:24.000 The demographic problem is the demographic deficit that results when you have a low and shrinking population. 0.60

00:13:31.000 Native birth rate and a high and accelerating foreign birth rate, and then you have immigration on top of that.

00:13:37.000 Now, that is the problem.

00:13:39.000 There's much talk on the alt right about the ethnostate, about physical removal, and there's memes, and they are memes, they are fantasies.

00:13:47.000 Most of the talk about this issue from the alt right is a little bit too much for regular, normal people.

00:13:55.000 I think it's off putting.

00:13:56.000 And, you know, if you don't believe that, go on Reddit or go on Twitter and, and, Look at some of the alt light accounts, and these are people that may agree with the problem but don't agree with the rhetoric.

00:14:08.000 If you look at the solution to the problem, there are only two ways to combat this, which is the demographic deficit.

00:14:14.000 Solution number one is you can increase the native birth rate through these following means, or you can decrease the foreign birth rate or decrease the amount of foreign born immigrants through these following measures.

00:14:27.000 That's the only way that you're going to solve it is changing those variables, is either increasing this number or decreasing this number. 0.53

00:14:35.000 And it's as simple as that.

00:14:36.000 And my proposal for a parallel political movement or political organization or something that's more palatable is to focus on things that combat these problems, which, by the way, does not involve talk about the Holocaust or Israel or the JQ or race realism or bell curves or anything like that.

00:14:58.000 And I'm not saying that, I'm not saying those things pejoratively or as an epithet.

00:15:04.000 I'm not saying, I'm not making a judgment call on the content of those.

00:15:09.000 I'm not making a judgment call on the content that the alt-right talks about with those issues.

00:15:14.000 I think the alt-right will continue to talk about those issues, and there's a place for that.

00:15:18.000 But if we want to see pragmatic change, none of the policies that would combat this problem actually involve talk about any of that.

00:15:27.000 How do we increase the native birth rate?

00:15:30.000 It's actually extremely simple.

00:15:32.000 You look at the reason why native people are not having a lot of children, and you can boil it down. 0.97

00:15:39.000 In a lot of ways, to economics.

00:15:41.000 Certainly, there's a cultural component.

00:15:43.000 Certainly, there is a social component. 1.00

00:15:45.000 But a lot of it is the simple fact that Native people can't have children because it costs too much. 0.98

00:15:51.000 And you can look at the numbers. 0.55

00:15:52.000 The average cost of a child in the United States of America to have a child is a quarter of a million dollars.

00:15:59.000 The average cost of a home in the United States is a little bit less than $200,000.

00:16:05.000 Average student loan debt in the country is about $37,000.

00:16:09.000 So you add up all these numbers.

00:16:11.000 You add up all of the economic numbers combined with the tax burden, which could be anywhere between 20% and 40%.

00:16:17.000 And you're looking at a fiscal situation where.

00:16:20.000 Even if we had a culture conducive to having children.

00:16:22.000 And Lord knows, people in the alt right would love to have lots of children, myself included.

00:16:27.000 But it becomes very difficult when you don't have the financial means to do it.

00:16:33.000 One of the most simple ways that we could remedy this problem is through trade reform, through tax reform, through energy reform.

00:16:40.000 And probably the greatest thing, which I think is so understated in the alt right and this fringe right, is apolitical social movements.

00:16:49.000 That is the biggest thing that we can do right now.

00:16:52.000 To advance the cause.

00:16:53.000 You know, a lot of people love to show up to Berkeley in Spartan helmets and with weapons and guns and, you know, very LARPy, right?

00:17:03.000 People think, how can I save my people?

00:17:06.000 How can I save my country?

00:17:08.000 Oh, I know.

00:17:08.000 I'll get in a costume and I'll go to some city and I'll beat the hell out of a couple of teenagers in black clothes with the Antifa.

00:17:16.000 It's fun.

00:17:17.000 You know, I understand it.

00:17:18.000 I was in Charlottesville.

00:17:19.000 It's fun.

00:17:20.000 It's cool.

00:17:20.000 It's high energy.

00:17:22.000 It builds morale.

00:17:24.000 But if we want to build the groundwork for a lasting movement, this, this right here is the best thing that we can do.

00:17:31.000 Imagine, if you will, in the next 20 years, all of this political and social capital that the alt right had was dedicated to building an economy, building really a social form of capitalism where families could get started right out of college, get started in their early to mid 20s, having big families in homes with stable jobs, and they could afford all of their expenditures.

00:17:55.000 And in addition to that, you had all sorts of voluntary organizations and associations in the country that encouraged things like physical fitness, classical virtues, classical education, religion, community, some degree of racial consciousness or community consciousness, civic consciousness.

00:18:15.000 If you had these two components where you had really an enormous social movement, a voluntary social movement by the alt-right to get these kinds of ubermensch that we need to rebuild civilization.

00:18:28.000 And we talk all day long about World War II vets and World War I vets, how tough and strong and heroic they were.

00:18:35.000 Imagine if you had a social movement that was cultivating the character of those people and a political movement that was making it affordable for all of those people to be having big families.

00:18:45.000 White birth rate goes from 1.1 or 1.3 to 2 to 2.5.

00:18:51.000 That's not crazy.

00:18:52.000 That is not beyond the scope of what is achievable.

00:18:55.000 And they say that we've never made it back.

00:18:58.000 It's impossible to make it back from a less than 1.3 fertility rate.

00:19:02.000 We can do it.

00:19:04.000 For all these people that think that we can achieve these Herculean things and we can make leaps and bounds because of how great we are, that's the way to do it.

00:19:12.000 It's to do it through kinship.

00:19:14.000 You know, if you really believe in identity politics, there's your solution right there.

00:19:18.000 And then while we're doing that, that's how we combat the decreasing native birth rate problem. 0.78

00:19:24.000 How do we combat the foreign birth rate problem?

00:19:27.000 Well, it's exactly what Donald Trump is doing.

00:19:29.000 You do the RAISE Act, you cut legal immigration by 50% or more over the next 10 years.

00:19:36.000 If we get Pressure on the West Wing to do that, pressure on Congress to do that, you're halfway there.

00:19:42.000 You get him to deport illegal immigrants, DACA, all of that.

00:19:45.000 Beyond just the removal of people or stopping the addition of people, some of the simplest things that we can do is ending welfare, ending birthright citizenship. 0.98

00:19:55.000 People don't realize that a lot of the immigrants are coming here and staying here because they get welfare. 0.99

00:20:01.000 And I think people are starting to understand, if you're watching this, that it's a very simple problem to solve. 0.99

00:20:06.000 People dream up these grand designs of physical removal and all these other wacky things.

00:20:12.000 How to do it, the blueprint for how to do it is all right here.

00:20:15.000 It's all about incentives.

00:20:17.000 It's all about systems.

00:20:19.000 If we create a system that instead of incentivizing the increase of this and the decrease of this, but flip that and we got the inverse, the problem is solved.

00:20:29.000 You don't need to be waving certain banners.

00:20:31.000 You don't need people to be rethinking certain historical events.

00:20:35.000 It's a simple matter of what are you willing to do to get where you want to go?

00:20:41.000 Because if we achieve these very boring things, this is a boring agenda.

00:20:45.000 It's lame, it's hard.

00:20:46.000 It'll take a long time.

00:20:48.000 It'll take discipline.

00:20:49.000 It's not very self indulgent, admittedly.

00:20:51.000 You know, I would love to be having certain debates right now about certain things.

00:20:56.000 I'd be having the time of my life being as edgy and transgressive as I can be.

00:21:00.000 And I think people understand at a certain point that I'm not saying everything that I believe for certain reasons.

00:21:08.000 But if we build this infrastructure, if we build these social movements, if we build the economic system, if we make the necessary reforms, We pay attention to the boring stuff. 0.99

00:21:19.000 We're talking about ending welfare, ending all sorts of things that are propping up these communities, these different groups, the foreign born population. 0.99

00:21:27.000 If we do all of that, problem solved, problem is over. 0.99

00:21:31.000 And then all of the tertiary, ancillary stuff about historical events and everything else, that will all come later.

00:21:39.000 Once you cultivate and you make a civilization that is worthy of those conversations, that is worthy of those questions, Then and only then can we answer them.

00:21:50.000 Then and only then can we talk about them.

00:21:52.000 But that is just my modest proposal.

00:21:54.000 I am not trying to reinvent the wheel here.

00:21:57.000 I'm not, you know, people are saying I'm young and I'm arrogant and I think I know everything because I'm cocky and everything.

00:22:04.000 Believe me, that is not it at all.

00:22:07.000 But I've looked at these problems for a very long time.

00:22:09.000 I've looked at what has been done so far by this movement.

00:22:13.000 And without trying to step on anybody's toes and without trying to, Nullify the sacrifices or to minimize the sacrifices and achievements of this movement and the people in it so far.

00:22:25.000 I would just like to make that modest proposal that all of this is within our grasp and through very tenable, very tenable things that we can grasp today and tomorrow.

00:22:37.000 And that was my biggest problem, I think, with this movement I believed in all of these things, but at the same time, I said, you know, I don't really understand what the plan is.

00:22:46.000 I don't know how we're going to get there.

00:22:47.000 You see Richard Spencer on television and, you know, I disavow, he's admonished and all that.

00:22:52.000 But you see people in this movement and they go on television and they talk about these things, and it's great for raising awareness.

00:23:00.000 But I think beyond raising awareness, there's not a whole lot that's being done.

00:23:04.000 And we're being routed everywhere right now on the internet, on social media, in business.

00:23:09.000 I saw a guy in Minnesota who his bar is closing down because the local newspaper found out he donated like $100 to David Duke's Senate campaign, and everyone in his bar quit.

00:23:22.000 And I don't see Just by this raising awareness in this little echo chamber.

00:23:27.000 And I think we get caught up in it because we're online and we only interact with people that agree with us, that we think this is a major movement that's about to overthrow the country.

00:23:38.000 Unless you're planning on overthrowing the government in the next 10 to 15 years, we have to win elections.

00:23:43.000 It just, it has to happen.

00:23:45.000 We have to win elections.

00:23:46.000 We have to get policy passed.

00:23:48.000 And, you know, unless you're talking about overthrowing the government or secession or anything like that, which are incredibly outlandish.

00:23:56.000 And if, you know, you have an idea for how we're going to do that, I'd love to see it.

00:23:59.000 But unless you have an idea of how we're going to overthrow the federal government and secede, which I think is beyond the grasp of anybody in the country today, we have to win elections.

00:24:09.000 We have to pass policy.

00:24:11.000 We have to do.

00:24:12.000 The boring stuff, the heavy lifting, the infrastructure.

00:24:16.000 But so that's my proposal.

00:24:17.000 I just wanted to clear the air.

00:24:19.000 I know a lot of people were getting on my case saying I was, you know, trying to co op the movement or trying to slap my brand on it or recreate the alt light or, you know, nothing of the sort.

00:24:31.000 And I think people that have been paying attention to some of the winks and things and my show and what I say implicitly that I am only trying to help this movement get where it needs to go.

00:24:31.000 Nothing.

00:24:43.000 And to do that, I think we have to be a little bit.

00:24:48.000 I think we have to break some of the rules and piss some people off in our own movement because it's stagnated.

00:24:54.000 It's gotten to the point where we're not seeing a lot of movement anymore.

00:24:58.000 You know, we got Donald Trump, and then what?

00:24:59.000 You know, what tangible things have we achieved?

00:25:02.000 I haven't seen a whole lot.

00:25:03.000 So that's all.

00:25:05.000 But then the other, you know, so that's my modest proposal.

00:25:08.000 Let me know what you think in the comments, in the live chat.

00:25:12.000 If I'm being crazy, if I'm.

00:25:14.000 If I'm like, if this is a naked power grab or something like that, let me know.

00:25:19.000 Or if you think that's smart and we can do that, let me know.

00:25:23.000 I think that's something that if we really put our minds to it and we focused and we were disciplined, this problem is solved in 25, 50 years. 1.00

00:25:33.000 I mean, look at the baby boom. 1.00

00:25:35.000 Something like that is possible again, where we were on the brink of collapse with the Great Depression and a world war. 1.00

00:25:41.000 And in a matter of five or six years, we were back and bigger and stronger than ever before.

00:25:46.000 It's possible.

00:25:47.000 It's possible, so long as maybe we stop a few less podcasts about certain things and a few more community action, apolitical organizations, things like that.

00:25:59.000 I think that pragmatic end of it has to be achieved.

00:26:03.000 And so, what are people saying?

00:26:05.000 Nick is 100% right.

00:26:07.000 Sounds good.

00:26:09.000 What else?

00:26:10.000 What else do we have here?

00:26:14.000 We are gaining momentum.

00:26:15.000 I think that's true.

00:26:16.000 How do we initiate the stuff you mentioned?

00:26:19.000 Well, it's pretty easy.

00:26:20.000 I mean,.

00:26:21.000 You look at all of the movement that people have been able to achieve politically.

00:26:25.000 I think this is the big difference.

00:26:27.000 Everyone in the alt right wants to be Richard Spencer.

00:26:30.000 Everyone in the alt right wants to be Jared Taylor.

00:26:32.000 They all want to be red pilling people.

00:26:34.000 They all want to be making content.

00:26:35.000 They all want to be the next revolutionary.

00:26:39.000 And I understand the need for it because it's a political problem.

00:26:43.000 But I think, you know, just as with a war effort, not everyone is a soldier.

00:26:46.000 You need engineers, you need nurses, you need paramedics, you need.

00:26:51.000 You know, people that are coordinating logistical things.

00:26:54.000 I think just as in any good war effort, you have multiple components, same with the alt right.

00:26:59.000 So that starts with people, instead of directing their forces towards the political, going to the gym, getting physically fit, advancing the cause of classical education, doing what you can to form these sort of apolitical, voluntary organizations.

00:27:15.000 You know, obviously, I'm young.

00:27:17.000 I have no experience in creating organizations, but I made one.

00:27:20.000 I made Boston students for Trump.

00:27:22.000 I have no experience with like fraternal.

00:27:25.000 Organizations with adults, but I think that is the trajectory that we need to be on.

00:27:31.000 I think, you know, if we set that as the general blueprint, as the general path to how we're going to do it, I think people on the ground can figure out the rest.

00:27:40.000 You know, go to your church.

00:27:41.000 Go to your church and volunteer and get to know the people in your community.

00:27:45.000 And then, I don't know, maybe start a book club with the people in your community or, you know, start some physical fitness class for people in your community.

00:27:53.000 Hang up flyers in the local restaurant or in the local bulletin.

00:27:57.000 I mean, just simple things like that.

00:27:59.000 And it's funny because a lot of people in the alt right talk about this.

00:28:02.000 A lot of people that are paleoconservatives and whatever, they talk about this loss of community, and then they're incels or they're neats, you know, and they're at home and they're on the computer and whatever.

00:28:13.000 We sort of have to become what we are.

00:28:14.000 And I'm as guilty of it as anybody.

00:28:16.000 I mean, you know, I don't go to the gym.

00:28:18.000 I really should.

00:28:20.000 I'm still eating Taco Bell and Bona Beef and McDonald's and all of that.

00:28:25.000 And, you know, maybe I'll stop that once my metabolism slows down and I have to.

00:28:31.000 But.

00:28:32.000 I think we all are a little bit guilty of that, where we all have this vision and we all want to be the intellectuals, but nobody wants to be the soldiers.

00:28:39.000 We have to be soldiers in peacetime, I suppose that's a way to put it.

00:28:44.000 But that's my modest proposal.

00:28:47.000 I think that is what the movement should look like in two or three years, maybe one year if we could really do it.

00:28:55.000 But that's the ticket.

00:28:56.000 And that's something that they can't stop.

00:28:59.000 That is something that the globalist cannot stop people just talking to each other.

00:29:04.000 They can take you offline.

00:29:07.000 They can take away your reach on Twitter or Facebook or YouTube, but they can't stop you from going to church and saying, Hey, Bob, how are your kids?

00:29:16.000 How's your wife?

00:29:17.000 How are your parents?

00:29:18.000 Do you want to come over for dinner later?

00:29:20.000 Do you need help with anything?

00:29:22.000 They cannot stop that.

00:29:25.000 They cannot stop you from going to church and worshiping.

00:29:28.000 They cannot stop you from going to your library and reading books.

00:29:32.000 They can't stop you from homeschooling your kids.

00:29:35.000 They can't stop you from.

00:29:37.000 Volunteering for a political organization or volunteering to run for public office to combat these things, to combat welfare and to combat measures that impoverish middle America and the middle class.

00:29:49.000 I mean, all of those things we can do if we have the will.

00:29:53.000 We complain about how white people are getting beat up and everything, and we complain about how they hate us and they think we're weak and they're turning us into soylent men.

00:30:02.000 We have to become what we are. 0.76

00:30:04.000 We have to stop all this victim stuff.

00:30:07.000 Take our destiny back, take control of our fate.

00:30:10.000 And it's something as simple as what I just said.

00:30:12.000 You don't have to go out tomorrow and throw down $20,000 and start a massive infrastructure.

00:30:18.000 It's something as simple as you go to Mass on Sunday.

00:30:20.000 You go to Mass on Sunday and you say, hey, to the guy sitting next to you or to the lady sitting next to you, and you start building a social infrastructure.

00:30:29.000 It's all in our grasp, it's all in our reach.

00:30:32.000 That's the white pill.

00:30:34.000 The black pill says, Donald Trump isn't solving immigration and nobody will solve immigration.

00:30:40.000 The white pill is saying it doesn't matter if Donald Trump serves one term or two terms or he gets impeached or anything else, because tomorrow I'm going to go to church and I'm going to rub shoulders and shake hands with all the people in my community, and we will refuse to let our country go to hell.

00:30:56.000 It's as simple as that.

00:30:58.000 And, you know, of course, there's complications with laws and regulations and restrictions and all of that.

00:31:04.000 I understand that, believe me.

00:31:05.000 But I think all of that becomes a lot more feasible.

00:31:08.000 It becomes a lot more clear what needs to be done once we have that community again.

00:31:16.000 And what are the folks saying?

00:31:18.000 You, let's see, talking to normies in public?

00:31:22.000 Yeah, believe it or not, got to do it.

00:31:25.000 Got to do it.

00:31:26.000 And what else?

00:31:29.000 Spencer bravely stood against riot cops in Charlottesville.

00:31:32.000 He earned my respect.

00:31:34.000 Again, you know, I just said, I just said, I respect the people in the alt right and their sacrifices and what they've done and everything else.

00:31:42.000 I respect it.

00:31:43.000 But I think we all have to understand that that has its function, and we need something whose function, which the sole function of it, is to build, is to build those institutions and that infrastructure.

00:31:55.000 The job of the alt right, as far as I'm concerned, is raising awareness, being a resource.

00:32:00.000 It's the answer.

00:32:02.000 We need a parallel organization that asks the question, that gets people to the point where they are strong and they have chiseled faces and they're not 500 pounds and they don't watch television.

00:32:13.000 And when we get people to a point where they are human beings again, the alt right will be there for them to say, this is what's going on.

00:32:21.000 But, of course, disavowed, admonished, and all of that.

00:32:26.000 I know that's optics cucking. 0.86

00:32:27.000 A lot of people call that optics cucking because if you want to create a viable political movement, you don't want to be affiliated with people that are blacklisted. 0.95

00:32:34.000 I know that's cucking. 0.98

00:32:36.000 But I think that's the way forward.

00:32:38.000 Enough of that.

00:32:39.000 We can cover more of that during the questions.

00:32:42.000 We can cover more of that during the questions.

00:32:44.000 Questions, comments, concerns, remember you can post them on Twitter using the hashtag AmericaFQ.

00:32:50.000 Hashtag AmericaFQ.

00:32:52.000 So look, if you think I'm wrong, if you have a substantive, if you have like a really cutting question where you're like, this Nick guy, he's full of it.

00:32:58.000 He's a shill.

00:32:59.000 He's a shill for Israel, you know, post it on Twitter. 0.99

00:33:03.000 I'd be glad to read it.

00:33:04.000 I am presenting this as humbly.

00:33:07.000 And modestly as possible, as somebody who looked at the issue, who looked at the problem in a very abstract, logical way.

00:33:14.000 I boiled it down to an equation with two variables, X and Y, native, foreign, birth rate.

00:33:20.000 And how are we going to fix those?

00:33:22.000 And none of those involve what's going on in the alt right.

00:33:25.000 Now, the alt right awakened me to the problem and all of that.

00:33:28.000 But if we're going to solve this logical problem, it's just about those variables and what we can do through systems and incentives to get those to increase and decrease, respectively.

00:33:42.000 And it's as simple as that.

00:33:43.000 But again, if you have that cutting criticism, if you think I'm walking around like I know all the answers, you know, it's not that.

00:33:49.000 But if you think it is, hashtag AmericaFQ.

00:33:52.000 We got folks, we got to talk about DACA.

00:33:54.000 We got to talk about DACA now.

00:33:57.000 You know, we could spend all day talking about tactics.

00:34:00.000 And Lord knows the people in the alt right love to talk, which I love that about them, that they'll talk like with a fixation and obsession and a focus on topics at length and in great detail.

00:34:12.000 It's really, you know, you don't see that with.

00:34:15.000 The alt light or with the establishment right, the GOPE.

00:34:18.000 You know, Cassie Dillon, her Twitter is, look at my dog, Game of Thrones.

00:34:22.000 I'm a ditzy girl and I'm watching Game of Thrones.

00:34:25.000 Oh my God, people are getting killed.

00:34:27.000 I'm a little girl.

00:34:28.000 You know, that's the GOPE. 1.00

00:34:30.000 It's just garbage. 1.00

00:34:31.000 It's just terrible content. 0.99

00:34:33.000 So I appreciate the pushback.

00:34:35.000 It shows me that people are thinking and, you know, we're breaking it down and that's what makes us stronger.

00:34:40.000 I think that sort of makes the case for what we're doing that we will come back stronger and bigger and better than all these others because we're embracing.

00:34:49.000 That creative destruction.

00:34:50.000 You don't have the Will Nardis and the Cassie Dillons and the Alex Sears who like to go on their podcasts with less than like 50 viewers, by the way, and say, and they just do a circle jerk basically of, yeah, the leftists are at it again. 0.98

00:35:06.000 Leftists are the real Nazis. 0.97

00:35:07.000 Oh, I know. 1.00

00:35:08.000 Leftists are crazy. 1.00

00:35:09.000 Leftists on college campuses. 1.00

00:35:11.000 I mean, it's like a broken record.

00:35:13.000 Anyway, DACA.

00:35:15.000 Got to talk DACA, folks.

00:35:17.000 No, no, I'm sorry.

00:35:18.000 Before we talk DACA, we talked about DACA on.

00:35:22.000 Nationalist Review, and we talked about it on Friday.

00:35:24.000 What we should be talking about is Gab.

00:35:26.000 We should be talking about Gab.

00:35:29.000 And I think a lot of people have seen this.

00:35:31.000 A lot of people are very up in arms about this, and rightly so.

00:35:34.000 This morning on Gab, Andrew Anglin, who is the head of Daily Stormer, he reposted a meme on Twitter on Gab.

00:35:43.000 And the meme was making fun of Heather Hare.

00:35:46.000 And for those of you guys that don't know, by the way, I think everybody does, but Gab is supposed to be like the free speech Twitter.

00:35:54.000 They formed out of Twitter.

00:35:55.000 They said, you know, Twitter censors people, they ban people.

00:35:59.000 We're going to make Twitter, but for free speech, and you can say anything you want.

00:36:02.000 So that's Gab. 0.94

00:36:04.000 So Andrew Englund, he reposts this meme from Twitter making fun of Heather Hare, which is the woman that, you know, died so tragically in Charlottesville, going to punch and kill Nazis.

00:36:13.000 You know, people pretend like that's not even a factor in it.

00:36:16.000 Like she came there to be a revolutionary.

00:36:19.000 She came there to kill political dissidents, basically, or stood in march with people that were there to do that.

00:36:25.000 And then there was violence, and everyone wants to pretend now that that was like a peaceful demonstration and they came there to fight racism.

00:36:32.000 People came there with.

00:36:33.000 With lead pipes to kill people, to kill political dissidents, and then one of theirs gets killed in what looks like somebody who hit the gas because he was being attacked by people with weapons, and then all of a sudden it's, do you condemn the death of Heather Hare?

00:36:49.000 Do you condemn? 0.71

00:36:49.000 Like, well, I mean, yeah, of course we condemn all tragedies, all deaths, but by the same token, I mean, if you're going to put yourself in that position where you're going to be so brave and stand against bigotry and racism and you're going to go and kill political dissidents, and then something happens, it's like, well, you know, tragic, but. 0.71

00:37:09.000 Is there a responsibility there?

00:37:10.000 I can't comment on that.

00:37:10.000 I don't know.

00:37:12.000 But so on Gab, Andrew Anglin posts this meme of Heather Hare, and Andrew Torba, who's the founder of Gab, and he's the, I guess, he's some kind of moderator there, he replies to that meme and says that unless Andrew Anglin takes it down in 24 hours, it's going to get deleted, and presumably Andrew Anglin gets kicked off of Gab.

00:37:35.000 And everybody was so pissed.

00:37:36.000 Everybody was up in arms.

00:37:38.000 They said, you know, Gab is the free speech platform, and now.

00:37:41.000 Seemingly, they're censoring Andrew England.

00:37:44.000 And everyone's tweeting the hashtag, get off Gab, Gab exit, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:48.000 And it turns out, and this is just the final piece of the puzzle, it turns out to everyone's surprise, which I think a lot of people weren't that surprised, but it turns out that the domain registrar, the people that, if you go on like gab.com, the people that register that domain, gab.com, as being owned by Andrew Torba, they sent a message to Gab and said, unless this post is taken down in 48 hours,

00:38:15.000 Your domain gets confiscated so that Gab gets destroyed and they have to move it to a completely other domain registrar.

00:38:22.000 And then they would have gotten destroyed there and it would have been cat and mouse until there's no more Gab.

00:38:27.000 And so now, normally, what happens with this company, the domain registrar, usually they give people a 15 day notice.

00:38:33.000 So usually they say, you have 15 days to get rid of bad content or else we're confiscating your domain.

00:38:39.000 With Gab, they gave them 48 hours.

00:38:41.000 So admittedly, it seems like they were under the gun.

00:38:43.000 It seems like Andrew Torba was under the gun, basically.

00:38:47.000 Because he had such a short window of time to get this post gone, or else Gab goes away.

00:38:53.000 People are debating about this.

00:38:55.000 Was that the right call?

00:38:56.000 Was it not?

00:38:57.000 I think, you know, he didn't make the perfect decision.

00:39:00.000 He was under a lot of stress.

00:39:01.000 He could have DM'd Andrew Anglin and said that.

00:39:04.000 He could have explained it to the community before he did it.

00:39:07.000 I mean, he could have handled it better, sure.

00:39:09.000 But I think we all understand the problem that this is just basically impossible to have a free speech platform or to have true free speech on the internet anymore.

00:39:19.000 It's just impossible.

00:39:20.000 And I think to a certain extent, while we can criticize Andrew Torba's handling of it, and certainly it's not great timing after he just got all kinds of money from all kinds of investors buying stock in Gab and they're throwing their money at Gab and Gab is expanding, you know, certainly it's a bad time for them all of a sudden to decide, actually, we censor people.

00:39:42.000 But I think we have to look at the root cause of the problem, which is you just cannot say certain things on the internet anymore.

00:39:48.000 It's tough to grapple with, it's infuriating.

00:39:52.000 It feels like we've been neutered, like we've been castrated, because there's nothing we can do about it right now.

00:39:57.000 But at the end of the day, that's the problem.

00:40:00.000 You know, you look at Daily Stormer, which got chased out of every domain, got chased off of the dark web or the deep web.

00:40:08.000 And now this problem with Gab, you saw last week with James Alsop on Liberty Conservative.

00:40:13.000 You just cannot say certain things on the Internet anymore.

00:40:16.000 And I don't think that's Andrew Torba's fault.

00:40:18.000 I don't think that is Gab's fault.

00:40:21.000 I think that's just the way it is.

00:40:23.000 Implement blockchain or Ethereum or anything like that.

00:40:28.000 And I think a lot of people are looking for a punching bag, but I would say that we should just think about this very carefully.

00:40:34.000 Before we go after Gab and we destroy it and we take a dump all over it, I think it's important that we say, and people are angry about it, but it's important to take a step back and say, who's on our team and who isn't?

00:40:48.000 Is Andrew Torba the guy to get upset at?

00:40:51.000 Is Andrew Torba our enemy?

00:40:53.000 Many people may say yes after what happened today because.

00:40:57.000 You know, it's the free speech platform.

00:40:58.000 Everybody joins.

00:40:59.000 They're throwing money at it.

00:41:00.000 And then this happens, and it was pretty poorly handled.

00:41:03.000 But if you look at it in the grand scheme of things, I think it would be a bit of a mistake to say we're going to throw away this whole platform where you can get away with so much more on Gab than you can on Twitter.

00:41:13.000 And, you know, it's just this one instance.

00:41:15.000 I think we have to look at it a little bit more strategically where we have to say, you know, Gab is there.

00:41:21.000 It's not perfect, but it cannot be perfect under the present conditions.

00:41:26.000 Another thing we have to focus on, you know, we talk about the demographic things, but another component is, If we can figure out a way to get blockchain going, to get this sort of Internet 3.0 going, I think that would change the whole game.

00:41:40.000 But until that point, it's really unreasonable, I think, to put all the sole oneness of this situation on the people at Gab or the people at Liberty Conservative and say you're cucking to corporate interests.

00:41:53.000 I mean, really, do you want the whole alt right to just be completely exterminated from the Internet?

00:41:59.000 I don't know if that's the best solution.

00:42:00.000 So.

00:42:02.000 It's just tough.

00:42:03.000 All I am suggesting is a little bit of trepidation before we make a huge judgment, make a condemnation of somebody who I think a lot of people think is doing a great service.

00:42:17.000 And Vox Day said the same thing.

00:42:19.000 He said it a little bit more forcefully against Andrew Englund.

00:42:22.000 But I think the point remains that Gab is doing something for us, and we have to recognize that it can't be perfect.

00:42:29.000 But that's Gab.

00:42:30.000 I think it's really unfortunate in this day and age that you just don't have free speech anymore.

00:42:35.000 Doesn't anyone find that?

00:42:36.000 Wrong.

00:42:38.000 We talk so much about that.

00:42:39.000 We talk about free speech.

00:42:41.000 We talk about the people who talk about free speech who are liars.

00:42:45.000 But really, when you sit down and think about it, that in my entire life, I was born in 1998.

00:42:51.000 And for my entire life, I have lived in a country where you don't have freedom of speech.

00:42:56.000 I have never known a country.

00:42:58.000 I have never lived in a country where you have freedom of speech, where you cannot say what's on your mind unless you face extremely Unreasonable consequences.

00:43:08.000 And they say all the time well, you're not protected from the consequences of your speech.

00:43:13.000 You're not protected from the consequences of hate speech.

00:43:16.000 Does anybody think it's a reasonable consequence that a guy in Minnesota loses his entire business, loses all of his employees, because a paper went and dug into his financials and published it for everyone to see that he made a small contribution to a political campaign that most people didn't even understand, don't even understand the guy?

00:43:35.000 I mean, does anybody think that's reasonable?

00:43:37.000 Does anybody think that's a culture of free speech?

00:43:40.000 I just, it really disturbs me that people can continue to make the case that free speech is just something.

00:43:47.000 That occurs in the absence of government censorship.

00:43:51.000 That's your quote.

00:43:51.000 Somebody quote that.

00:43:52.000 That was really good.

00:43:54.000 Free speech is not the absence of government censorship.

00:43:57.000 Somebody's got to quote that.

00:43:58.000 That's so good because it's so true, right?

00:44:01.000 All these people, the Ben Shapiro's of the world, they say unless the government is violating your First Amendment rights, it's free speech. 0.95

00:44:09.000 No, it's not, you dummy.

00:44:11.000 What the founders knew and what the founders wrote in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, what they wrote in the Declaration specifically was that we are endowed.

00:44:22.000 By our Creator with unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:44:27.000 And of course, all of those rights, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, are enshrined and protected and acknowledged by the Bill of Rights.

00:44:34.000 But if you break it down, if you break it down for what it really means, what it means is not that these rights come from government or these rights purely exist in the absence of government, but that they're given by God, that you have a God given right to free speech.

00:44:49.000 And, you know, people on the alt right are very cynical about the Constitution or of natural rights doctrine.

00:44:55.000 I get that, I understand that.

00:44:57.000 What it means is that it is right and it is just that we have free speech.

00:45:02.000 That God, whether or not we have a despotic God who's going to go down and change it on the ground, he gave us this right that it is just and it is ethical and moral that we have these freedoms and these liberties.

00:45:17.000 And so it is up to the people and to the government to create a society or a culture that's conducive to exercising those.

00:45:24.000 And there's a utilitarian justification.

00:45:27.000 There's That pretty ontological justification.

00:45:31.000 There's many justifications for it. 0.91

00:45:33.000 But to say that merely because government is not infringing on First Amendment rights, therefore you have free speech, it's ridiculous.

00:45:41.000 And like I said, my whole life I've lived in a country where you cannot say certain things. 0.96

00:45:46.000 For the first 10 years of my life, you couldn't call black people anything but African American, or else you were a racist.

00:45:54.000 And you would get in trouble in school for that.

00:45:56.000 And you would get in trouble in your job for that. 0.63

00:45:58.000 If you called, God forbid, you called anybody black.

00:46:00.000 Does anybody remember that?

00:46:02.000 Wasn't that weird?

00:46:03.000 You had to call everyone African American?

00:46:06.000 How bizarre, you know?

00:46:08.000 And then they tell us today, I've never been to Africa.

00:46:10.000 I don't have any association with Africa, yet we're calling them African Americans.

00:46:16.000 It's insanity. 1.00

00:46:18.000 And then even today, even today, you have these speech codes where you just cannot say certain things.

00:46:23.000 And we all know what the things are, right?

00:46:25.000 They say, you have free speech, you're expressing your speech right now.

00:46:28.000 Of course, they know we're not really saying what we actually mean, what we really believe.

00:46:34.000 Lord knows what would happen.

00:46:36.000 If people in the highest levels, and Lord knows what has happened when people at the highest levels say what they actually think or feel and the consequences that ensue.

00:46:46.000 And it's really just a troubling thing.

00:46:48.000 And I don't think that we are going to have a free society.

00:46:52.000 I think we are incapable of having the open society.

00:46:56.000 And that's what all the liberal philosophers talk about.

00:46:58.000 You know, you talk about classical liberals, all the liberal philosophers talk about the open society.

00:47:05.000 That is not possible in a heterogeneous society.

00:47:09.000 The two are mutually exclusive.

00:47:11.000 And I talked about this on Twitter, which is to say that if you are in a state of perpetual conflict, if you are in a state of perpetual civil war, essentially, of different factions and tribes vying for control of the country, you cannot have speech.

00:47:26.000 You only have rhetoric.

00:47:28.000 That's the problem.

00:47:29.000 You know, because if white people say certain things, if white people have a certain racial consciousness or a racial identity, this poses a latent threat.

00:47:40.000 Because if white people organize and they see themselves as a group, guess what?

00:47:45.000 That is the biggest, most powerful group in the country.

00:47:48.000 That is 67% of the population.

00:47:50.000 And, you know, when I say the most powerful group in the country, I don't mean really the most powerful group in the country, but I mean in terms of sheer size and numbers. 0.78

00:47:59.000 That if white people were allowed by the free speech codes to organize and say, we are all in this together, we are the white community, that would be the community to destroy all communities. 0.79

00:48:10.000 It would be huge. 0.89

00:48:12.000 It would.

00:48:13.000 It would be in a position to destroy every other community if it were inclined.

00:48:18.000 And that is why you don't have free speech. 0.87

00:48:21.000 Because if you were to say those things, if you were to say things to rally this community, to create this consciousness, it would create, in the eyes of certain minority groups, an unacceptable, latent threat to their existence. 0.79

00:48:36.000 You know, it's like if you're in a bus, okay, I'm coming up with all these great analogies on the fly. 0.62

00:48:43.000 If you're on a bus and you're a white guy, okay, and you're one white guy and everyone else on the bus is black, and maybe you're on a road trip for a really long time, you're on like a 30 hour road trip and you're one white guy and everyone else is like 100 black guys on the bus. 0.56

00:49:00.000 Now, would you prefer that they saw themselves as individuals where they could unite in different combinations with you, where you could team up with the strongest faction because it's based on ideology and things like this? 0.70

00:49:14.000 Or would you prefer that it's 99 against one?

00:49:17.000 And maybe they're nice to you, but maybe they're not.

00:49:20.000 If they see you as the enemy, if they see you as a problem or a parasite or evil, you're done.

00:49:25.000 There's no chance for you.

00:49:27.000 And that essentially is the problem of heterogeneity in the country. 0.74

00:49:32.000 Because if you have this group, the strongest group, having this racial consciousness, whether they're benevolent or they want to kill you, they could always kill you. 0.75

00:49:41.000 And it's a matter of their whim. 0.90

00:49:42.000 So it's about control, essentially.

00:49:44.000 It's about control of the situation.

00:49:46.000 That if people at the top, if the globalist, can say, no, no, no, no.

00:49:51.000 It's about ideology.

00:49:52.000 And white people can mix and match with different groups.

00:49:55.000 And whites can vie for the black vote, and they can vie for the LGBT vote, and they can vie for the Hispanic vote.

00:50:02.000 But they will have to, in their ideological camps, hook up and create posses with racial groups. 0.64

00:50:10.000 You have destroyed the threat of white America, the strength of white America, the sovereignty of white America. 0.55

00:50:17.000 And that's why you don't have free speech. 0.86

00:50:20.000 If you had a country that was homogeneous and you didn't have.

00:50:24.000 A tribal, ethnic, racial, religious faction vying for control of the country, you would have speech where people would be talking about ideas and how we could have this country do better because you're talking about individuals within one group.

00:50:38.000 But when you have multiple groups, the unit becomes groups instead of individuals.

00:50:42.000 And whether you like it or not, they're playing by group politics.

00:50:46.000 And that's why they're shutting you down.

00:50:48.000 That's why no other group can be accused of being racist.

00:50:53.000 And that's why they say that racism is institutional power.

00:50:57.000 Plus, discrimination and hate and everything else.

00:51:00.000 And what they're saying very explicitly is we cannot be racist because we are weak and we are small.

00:51:07.000 And in no way, shape, or form could we threaten you, but you could threaten us. 0.68

00:51:12.000 And that's why they have to, that's why white people have to shut up about it.

00:51:16.000 And so until that day, until that day where everybody's on the same page and you get rid of that group association, that group identification, you'll never have this ideological country, which we once were.

00:51:29.000 You won't have it.

00:51:30.000 You won't have a country that's determined by.

00:51:33.000 Monetary interests or fiscal interests, or different incentives and different interest groups that could propel the country forward based on policy and based on things instead of people, unless you have one group or you destroy group identification, which I think is impossible and undesirable.

00:51:55.000 And it's no coincidence that it's only our countries, right?

00:51:58.000 It's only these countries that are up for debate like this.

00:52:02.000 I don't think anyone in any country in the world.

00:52:05.000 Is accused of being a racist outside of this one, right?

00:52:08.000 The Chinese, there was like a full article I was reading on Twitter the other day in a Chinese paper saying how Jewish people control the United States of America. 0.95

00:52:18.000 Nobody said, look at how anti Semitic the Chinese are.

00:52:22.000 You know, I have, I know of several people that have gone to China who are very black, like very dark skinned black, and they get completely ostracized, not in a vindictive way, but.

00:52:35.000 When they're walking through the streets, everyone's looking at them, pointing at them, people take pictures with them.

00:52:40.000 Does anybody call that racist?

00:52:42.000 Are there a lot of black people in China?

00:52:44.000 I know there's a small contingent from Africa that's going there to study and everything, but is there a lot of black people in China?

00:52:50.000 Who's calling China racist?

00:52:51.000 Who's calling the Africans in South Africa or Zimbabwe racist?

00:52:55.000 Who's calling the Arabs racist or the South Americans racist?

00:52:59.000 Nobody.

00:53:00.000 It's only us.

00:53:02.000 And it has a lot more to do with.

00:53:05.000 Power and heterogeneity than it has to do with anything else.

00:53:08.000 I think it's all pretty much laid bare when you understand this, when you understand that mindset.

00:53:14.000 If you put yourself in the mindset of a minority person, a minority group, you are going to, without even consciously doing it, create a worldview and an ideology that serves your interests. 0.56

00:53:27.000 I mean, you can look at any group of people and they don't, the self hating mindset, to a certain extent, without heavy propaganda, which we see with white people, It's impossible, right?

00:53:41.000 Where people create a worldview that's based on their interests. 0.70

00:53:46.000 That's why most Hispanic conservatives are pro immigration.

00:53:50.000 That's why you'll find very few people that aren't ethnically white in the alt right.

00:53:56.000 Even though you're looking at bell curves, even though you're looking at statistics, you look at race realism, for example, even though these are statistics that are basically.

00:54:09.000 Not debatable that this is the data, this is what the data shows that this is this bell curve, this is that bell curve.

00:54:15.000 You ever notice that only people who are benefited by that believe in that?

00:54:20.000 And I'm not saying that that delegitimizes those studies, but it is to say that people construct their worldview based on their interest.

00:54:27.000 And when you look at these minority groups that want white people to not have racial consciousness, it's motivated by a group strategy, it's motivated by self interest, whether consciously or unconsciously. 0.51

00:54:39.000 And until, like I said, until you have a country that is homogeneous or identifies as homogeneous, you will never have free speech. 0.89

00:54:47.000 Mark my words, it won't happen.

00:54:50.000 And that's what's required for an open society, is that everybody's on the same page.

00:54:55.000 And that's why, when we go up against these basic conservatives who say, You've embraced identity politics, we embrace it reluctantly.

00:55:03.000 We would love it if our countries weren't being invaded.

00:55:06.000 We would love it if our countries weren't being controlled at the highest levels.

00:55:11.000 That would be great if we didn't have to play identity politics, if we could be left in peace and talk about economics and literature and things like that.

00:55:20.000 We would love that.

00:55:22.000 Excuse me.

00:55:24.000 But because we have people pouring in that hate us, that want to kill us, that want to change our country, we reluctantly have to play that game.

00:55:34.000 You know, it's like war.

00:55:36.000 You know, it's like, hey, France, you're taking up arms.

00:55:41.000 You're making a military economy, a wartime economy.

00:55:44.000 Why are you doing that?

00:55:45.000 Why are you embracing Germany's militarism, huh?

00:55:50.000 Well, you have to.

00:55:50.000 You're at war.

00:55:51.000 We would love it if Germany would not be at war.

00:55:54.000 And France would not be at war.

00:55:55.000 And then we could both focus on productive things.

00:55:58.000 But because you're being invaded, you don't have the luxury of saying, I'm not going to play your game.

00:56:04.000 Germany, I'm not going to play your militaristic game.

00:56:07.000 That's leftist.

00:56:08.000 We have to do it.

00:56:09.000 The same is true with identity politics.

00:56:11.000 It would be great if nobody was invading us, trying to destroy our culture and our heritage and our people.

00:56:19.000 And we could talk about tax policy.

00:56:22.000 But you have people that are coming here that see us as a group.

00:56:28.000 And they see themselves as a group, and their group wants to destroy our group.

00:56:32.000 Well, we can't just say, I don't believe you.

00:56:36.000 I don't believe that you think you're a group.

00:56:37.000 I don't believe that I'm a group.

00:56:39.000 Well, guess what?

00:56:39.000 I'm an individual.

00:56:40.000 All the individuals are getting their heads cut off tomorrow. 0.93

00:56:43.000 So, yeah, there was just a big announcement. 1.00

00:56:47.000 All the white people are getting their heads chopped off. 1.00

00:56:49.000 White, I'm an individual. 1.00

00:56:50.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter, though. 0.68

00:56:54.000 Anyway, and that's just it.

00:56:55.000 The individual is weak, the group is strong.

00:57:00.000 That's what it comes down to.

00:57:01.000 If they convince. 0.74

00:57:03.000 The white, if they convince white people that we are all individuals who don't have culture, who don't have roots, you know, you saw that video where the guy says, We're white, we don't have an effing culture. 0.98

00:57:14.000 If they convince us that we are these rootless, lame, boring people and our people are evil and, you know, it doesn't matter if you're German or Italian, you're effing white, you know, that's what they tell us. 0.99

00:57:29.000 Well, then you're weak compared to the black community or the Latino community. 0.99

00:57:33.000 They have La Raza. 0.91

00:57:35.000 They have the NAACP.

00:57:37.000 The Muslims have the Council on American Islamic Relations.

00:57:41.000 And we are individuals.

00:57:43.000 Well, guess what? 0.95

00:57:44.000 Any individual going up against a group 13% of the population with blacks.

00:57:51.000 Something like, I think, what is it, 20, 25% of the population with Hispanics?

00:57:56.000 I'm not sure.

00:57:57.000 Maybe it's like 18%.

00:57:59.000 I think it is closer to 18%.

00:58:00.000 18% with Hispanics versus an individual. 1.00

00:58:04.000 These small groups will win every time. 1.00

00:58:07.000 If 67% of the population sees themselves as little itty bitty guys.

00:58:12.000 And that's, I think, where the appeal of fascism comes from, because that's what the fascist is, right?

00:58:18.000 It's a bundle of sticks that are stronger together.

00:58:21.000 It means you can break one stick, you can't break them all together.

00:58:24.000 And, you know, that's a dog whistle.

00:58:27.000 But it's just very simple logic.

00:58:29.000 It's logical, it's true.

00:58:31.000 You know, if you don't believe in communities, disband all of your communities.

00:58:35.000 If we're all just Americans, if we're all just individuals, if you believe that, Then, why do you still have all these racial based organizations that are advocating for racial interests?

00:58:47.000 Anywho, that's free speech.

00:58:50.000 On a similar note, actually, hold up.

00:58:52.000 Wow, the whole hour just flew by.

00:58:54.000 I'm noticing it's 8 o'clock already.

00:58:56.000 So we'll do questions, okay?

00:58:58.000 We'll do questions.

00:58:59.000 I was going to get to Dhaka and North Korea.

00:59:02.000 I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow.

00:59:03.000 I didn't realize.

00:59:04.000 Time flies when you're having fun, I guess.

00:59:11.000 So let's see.

00:59:13.000 We're going to go to our questions now.

00:59:15.000 I always.

00:59:16.000 Turn and then I get a little bit quieter when I'm facing this way, so it's tough.

00:59:21.000 Let's see.

00:59:24.000 Diversity Advocate, will you have guests on your show?

00:59:27.000 I'd love to see a baked Alaska interview.

00:59:30.000 I'd love to get baked on.

00:59:31.000 Oh, wait, I think I answered that actually on the last one.

00:59:34.000 I did answer that on the last one.

00:59:35.000 Yeah, we'd love to have baked on the show, and we'll have guests, I think, either this week or next week. 0.99

00:59:41.000 Doc Build the Wall says, How do you respond to the immigrants take the jobs whites won't take, slash, the jobs? 1.00

00:59:49.000 Won't get done without them. 1.00

00:59:50.000 Comment.

00:59:51.000 Well, it's just not true.

00:59:52.000 It's just not true. 0.99

00:59:53.000 All the jobs that immigrants occupy presently could be filled by college students, kids in high school. 0.75

01:00:01.000 I mean, we look at youth unemployment and it's at record numbers.

01:00:05.000 We look at all the kids that are getting into college.

01:00:07.000 If our young people were making money, were making capital, getting work experience in low skilled work, if that was available to them, that would be a net boon again to the people in our country. 0.93

01:00:17.000 So, you know, they're doing the jobs whites won't do. 0.93

01:00:20.000 That's not true. 1.00

01:00:21.000 And illegals. 1.00

01:00:22.000 Do these jobs because they can evade regulations and taxes. 1.00

01:00:27.000 Let's not forget about that. 0.97

01:00:29.000 You know, they pretend like whites turn their noses up at those jobs.

01:00:33.000 No, those jobs just become uneconomical when you have Obamacare and Medicare and Social Security and minimum wage and how many different state and local taxes.

01:00:42.000 It just becomes, it's not economical to employ those kinds of people when you have to pay so much for the labor.

01:00:50.000 So there's that component.

01:00:52.000 There's also the component that.

01:00:54.000 They're taking those jobs that used to be occupied by high schoolers and people that graduated high school.

01:01:01.000 Now everyone wants to go to college to be a programmer or a sociologist or an engineer.

01:01:08.000 You know, not going to happen, folks.

01:01:09.000 We need people to be busboys and whatever else, and you can make a decent living.

01:01:14.000 And then you get a little bit of capital, and then, you know, you could work your way up.

01:01:19.000 You could get a nice union job, you could get a factory job. 0.58

01:01:22.000 Then there's the trade component, too, where if We weren't competing with Vietnamese slave labor or Indonesian slave labor with child sweatshops. 0.50

01:01:32.000 You could have a decent living, a decent blue collar living in manufacturing, building cars, or on a factory line. 0.60

01:01:41.000 But because, you know, again, we have this stupid trade program with the TPP and with NAFTA and some of these other free trade agreements, we have blue collar workers in Wisconsin who are supposed to be able to afford a house. 0.58

01:01:56.000 And kids and everything, and a car and transportation and fuel and energy and all of that. 0.94

01:02:02.000 He's going to have to pay for all of that to have the same job that some Vietnamese kid could be doing for pennies in the jungle. 0.94

01:02:10.000 And by the way, he could live off those pennies. 0.97

01:02:12.000 Can't do that in America.

01:02:14.000 And 15 more questions.

01:02:16.000 We might have to save some of these for tomorrow.

01:02:19.000 Pinochet, should young Catholic men join the Knights of Columbus?

01:02:23.000 Yes, start joining fraternal organizations.

01:02:26.000 And I don't mean frats. 0.97

01:02:28.000 I hate frats. 0.99

01:02:29.000 I hate Greek life. 0.99

01:02:31.000 Greek life is not that so.

01:02:36.000 I mean, what are the values, excuse me, what are the virtues they encourage in Greek life?

01:02:40.000 Is it anything Greek?

01:02:41.000 Well, maybe the drinking, but I mean, that's what you do in frat life it's sexual degeneracy, it's abusing drugs and alcohol. 0.62

01:02:41.000 I don't think so. 0.62

01:02:50.000 I mean, look at the women in sororities and what they wear and their behavior. 1.00

01:02:55.000 Is that what we want? 1.00

01:02:56.000 Join real fraternal organizations like the Knights of Columbus or other things.

01:02:56.000 No.

01:03:00.000 Start your own that are dignified, that are for men.

01:03:03.000 It used to be that way.

01:03:04.000 It isn't.

01:03:05.000 Maybe it was.

01:03:06.000 But it isn't anymore.

01:03:06.000 I don't know.

01:03:09.000 Hunter Ruzica, what do we do about MGTOW? 1.00

01:03:12.000 Start making better women. 0.99

01:03:14.000 You know, and all these women, especially conservathots, conservathots on notice, they have this penchant to talk about how they want men like they used to make them. 0.98

01:03:24.000 All the conservathots want big, beefy, strong men who can pick them up and they're physically fit and they have abs and they can provide for them and they open the door for them.

01:03:33.000 But at the same time, they want to work. 0.91

01:03:36.000 They want to have a job. 0.99

01:03:39.000 They want to chirp in your ear and talk and they want to be first and second wave feminism. 1.00

01:03:43.000 They want to get right up to the line of third wave feminism. 1.00

01:03:45.000 Before they get morbidly obese and have blue hair. 0.99

01:03:48.000 And it's like, you know what?

01:03:49.000 Wait a minute.

01:03:50.000 Hold up.

01:03:50.000 Time out.

01:03:52.000 You know, you want the men to fulfill our biological role.

01:03:55.000 We're supposed to fight the wars and open the doors and go to work and be strong and shove down our feelings and everything else.

01:04:02.000 But you, you get to also go to work and you get to be.

01:04:06.000 No, If we're going back to tradition, we're going back to tradition.

01:04:11.000 So I will say to all these conservathots, I had this one, there's this one Lebanese girl from Leadership Institute.

01:04:17.000 Her name was Ivy. 0.97

01:04:19.000 She thought she was really hot stuff. 1.00

01:04:20.000 Not so much. 0.93

01:04:21.000 But she's up there all day long for the whole job training, and she's saying, Men are total pansies. 0.99

01:04:28.000 Men are total weaklings. 0.99

01:04:29.000 And I'm thinking to myself, I'm back there thinking to myself, then what the hell are you doing up there? 1.00

01:04:35.000 If you want traditional gender roles, if you want men like they used to make them, hey, lady, I think I have a place for you. 0.89

01:04:42.000 I think I know, if you're looking for tradition, I think I know where you can find it. 0.90

01:04:48.000 So many complaints about the men.

01:04:49.000 Men got to do this.

01:04:50.000 Men got to do that.

01:04:51.000 Why are men so weak?

01:04:52.000 Why are men so soft?

01:04:54.000 Why aren't men more this?

01:04:55.000 And what about the women? 0.98

01:04:56.000 Where's the responsibility there, right? 1.00

01:04:58.000 They don't want to have kids.

01:05:01.000 They don't want to be chaste or chaste.

01:05:04.000 They don't want to wait until marriage.

01:05:06.000 It's all on us. 0.90

01:05:07.000 We just got to be Atlas holding up the world while all these conservathots are stamping on our heads with the high heels. 0.53

01:05:15.000 I don't think so.

01:05:17.000 Take off the high heels.

01:05:22.000 Start having kids.

01:05:23.000 Then we'll talk about abs. 0.88

01:05:25.000 Anyway, what do we do about MGTOW?

01:05:28.000 You know, I think men going their own way, men are not at fault there.

01:05:32.000 Certainly, you know, we need more strong men raising our boys. 0.65

01:05:35.000 We have all these cucks from the boomer and Generation X generations who are teaching our children to be weak. 0.85

01:05:43.000 And I think that's having an adverse effect on the men, but also it's the women, too. 0.84

01:05:47.000 I mean, men, you really have to.

01:05:50.000 You really have to get men charged up to have them turn away from women, right?

01:05:55.000 I mean, men are all over women so that they're going their own way.

01:05:58.000 It's like, gee, something's going on on the other side.

01:06:01.000 The other team's not really playing by the rules over there.

01:06:04.000 So I think if men go their own way and they become strong and they say this is not acceptable, I think the women will come around.

01:06:12.000 I don't know.

01:06:13.000 That's a guess.

01:06:13.000 I'm not really a sociology guy.

01:06:15.000 I'm not big on all that social stuff. 1.00

01:06:18.000 But, you know, I think that's a big part of it where you have these women who are modern women who are intolerable. 1.00

01:06:25.000 In many different aspects. 0.93

01:06:27.000 And until you get those right, I don't think the men will be there.

01:06:33.000 Meme Deluxe, love the show.

01:06:35.000 You should debate Sargon of Akkad.

01:06:37.000 I would debate Sargon of Akkad.

01:06:39.000 I think he's pretty cringe with all that keck stuff and the skeptic stuff.

01:06:44.000 I mean, give me a break.

01:06:45.000 I would like to debate Sargon.

01:06:47.000 Well, I mean, it's not even like a debate because I feel like in a debate, one person, both sides think they have all the answers.

01:06:54.000 I don't think I have all the answers.

01:06:55.000 I think I have the right premise.

01:06:57.000 I think I'm asking the right questions.

01:06:58.000 I'm concerned about the right things. 1.00

01:07:00.000 And, you know, if you get into a debate about Sargon of Akkad, I'm not going to say, like, I know God is real and you're an idiot because you don't. 0.99

01:07:08.000 I'm going to say, you know, haven't you thought about this? 1.00

01:07:10.000 Haven't you thought about that?

01:07:11.000 How can you explain this?

01:07:13.000 How can you be so certain that that is the right case if you can't explain X, Y, and Z?

01:07:17.000 You know, that's really what I try to do.

01:07:19.000 And even with Will Nardi, I would point these things out where he would say, I believe in individuals and I don't believe there's differences between groups.

01:07:27.000 And I would say, okay, but then how do you explain this?

01:07:30.000 How do you explain that?

01:07:31.000 And he wouldn't have an answer.

01:07:32.000 And I think that's how you do it.

01:07:34.000 There's sort of a Socratic element there. 0.98

01:07:38.000 Gen Z Fash. 1.00

01:07:40.000 You should read Rules for Radicals. 1.00

01:07:41.000 I've read it twice. 0.92

01:07:43.000 Thoughts on Identity Europa.

01:07:46.000 I think it's a good organization.

01:07:47.000 I think, you know, a lot of normies wouldn't really understand it, but then again, it's not for normies.

01:07:54.000 Identity Europa tries to build a high trust society, a high trust community.

01:08:00.000 So in that way, I like it.

01:08:04.000 Doggo Trump, the alt right is just part of a hydra.

01:08:08.000 Should propaganda to raise white birth rates be pushed more than ever?

01:08:12.000 Again, you know, the propaganda. 0.61

01:08:16.000 I don't know what that means.

01:08:17.000 People say propaganda to push white birth rates.

01:08:19.000 What does that mean?

01:08:20.000 You know, what are you going to do?

01:08:22.000 You're going to put up posters?

01:08:23.000 People are going to see a poster, and that's going to undo years of conditioning.

01:08:27.000 You're going to make a YouTube video or a podcast?

01:08:30.000 What we have to do is change the incentives.

01:08:32.000 Propaganda requires an enormous barrier or has an enormous barrier to entry.

01:08:38.000 For any significant propaganda effort, you need television, you need radio, you need movies, you need music, you need celebrities.

01:08:46.000 We don't have any of that.

01:08:48.000 But what we do have is a small group of people, actually a relatively large group of people, that are highly motivated to do what needs to be done.

01:08:56.000 And so what you need to do is change the incentives, change the systems.

01:09:00.000 But, you know, people talk about this propaganda, propaganda.

01:09:03.000 You know, what does that mean?

01:09:05.000 How do we get that done tomorrow?

01:09:06.000 Are we going to make an alt right television show?

01:09:08.000 We tried that.

01:09:09.000 It was called World Peace.

01:09:10.000 It had six episodes, and a million people watched it.

01:09:13.000 You know, so what's really going to happen?

01:09:16.000 I sympathize with that.

01:09:18.000 I wish.

01:09:18.000 That were the answer.

01:09:19.000 I would love to make more propaganda.

01:09:21.000 And certainly, you know, we're doing that on Twitter.

01:09:23.000 We do a pretty good job of that already on Twitter.

01:09:26.000 You know, we're doing that on social media.

01:09:28.000 But it's not so simple.

01:09:30.000 What you want to do, and I'm not saying this in a combative way, like particular to you, the person who's asking the question, but what people want to do, and it's very lazy and self indulgent, is they want to say, I'm just going to say everything I believe.

01:09:45.000 I'm going to tweet everything I believe.

01:09:46.000 I'm going to make videos about what I believe.

01:09:49.000 You have to think about strategy, you have to think about tactics.

01:09:54.000 It's the easiest thing in the world to tweet what you believe without strategy, without rhetoric, without doing it artfully.

01:10:02.000 It's the easiest thing in the world to say certain things on Twitter or to make certain propaganda videos about certain people.

01:10:09.000 The easiest thing in the world. 0.98

01:10:11.000 I'm going to make my video, put it on YouTube, and it's up to the white race to figure it out. 0.99

01:10:16.000 Oh, it costs a quarter of a million dollars to have a kid. 0.97

01:10:18.000 Oh, it costs 200 grand to have a house.

01:10:20.000 Oh, you're 37 grand in the hole for school.

01:10:23.000 Well, but look at my propaganda video.

01:10:24.000 Aren't you going to start?

01:10:25.000 Aren't you going to. 0.98

01:10:26.000 Lazy, self indulgent.

01:10:29.000 I think that's really the problem with the movement.

01:10:31.000 And a big part of that is because there's not organization, there's not structure.

01:10:35.000 That's one of the weaknesses.

01:10:37.000 There's not really people saying specifics, specifics.

01:10:40.000 How are we going to do it tomorrow?

01:10:41.000 How are we going to change the system if you just have people creating content?

01:10:46.000 It's good up until a point.

01:10:48.000 Creating awareness is good up until a point.

01:10:50.000 And then it's just sort of like, where do we go from there?

01:10:54.000 American nationalists, do you think our democracy is the best form of government?

01:10:59.000 No.

01:11:00.000 Or has America's decline shown it doesn't work, at least for big countries?

01:11:03.000 Well, the problem is the founder's vision of the country.

01:11:08.000 Doesn't exist anymore in any way, shape, or form.

01:11:11.000 Federalism is dead.

01:11:13.000 Separation of powers is dead.

01:11:15.000 The great compromise which formed our Congress, which was that you have a House for the states in the Senate and a House for the people in the House of Representatives, that's dead since the 17th Amendment.

01:11:29.000 You have an income tax.

01:11:30.000 That was never a part of it.

01:11:32.000 You have this enormous federal government and all sorts of federal departments.

01:11:36.000 That was never a part of it. 0.99

01:11:38.000 You know, democracy was never the goal, and democracy is dumb.

01:11:43.000 I mean, we've been over this on the show before that democracy means if 50% plus one of the population or its representatives endorse something, it's okay, and that's policy.

01:11:55.000 There's nothing inherently virtuous or right or utilitarian about that.

01:11:59.000 In fact, the bigger the country, the less utilitarian.

01:12:02.000 So I think we ought to move more towards an aristocratic, monarchical form of government.

01:12:07.000 We wouldn't call it that, but.

01:12:10.000 Something that is a lot more like the founders had in mind, which is a little bit more centralized, but then you also have the reintroduction of federalism.

01:12:17.000 You have some component of an aristocracy that cares about the interests of the country.

01:12:22.000 We just have to make sure that doesn't get infiltrated by internationalist cosmopolitans.

01:12:29.000 Bill Matzing, I'm glad you cleared up the implicit explicit issue tonight and in your nationalist review talk on nations' different traditions.

01:12:37.000 Yeah, my pleasure.

01:12:39.000 These are important clarifications that need to be made because I think a lot of people have misconceptions about.

01:12:44.000 These beliefs and the nuances of them.

01:12:47.000 The Forgotten Man, Nick, your thoughts on the intention of the LARPers?

01:12:51.000 It's hard to say what team they are on.

01:12:52.000 Well, exactly.

01:12:53.000 Exactly.

01:12:54.000 You know, these people who show up with the Nazi flags, what are you hoping to accomplish?

01:12:59.000 What are you hoping to accomplish?

01:13:00.000 I don't care.

01:13:01.000 I don't care what documentaries you can show me.

01:13:04.000 I don't care what figures you could show me.

01:13:06.000 I don't care, you know, what the evidence is if we're talking about pragmatism.

01:13:12.000 I care because I care about the truth.

01:13:15.000 But if you're trying to create a political movement, and that's what's necessary to win elections, to pass policy, to get results, attaching your movement to the most toxic, hated symbol in the country, and then trying to add that, reforming and revitalizing that image as a part of your goals, it just doesn't make any sense.

01:13:37.000 We're going to save our people and we're going to save our country.

01:13:42.000 And we also have to, before we do any of that, we have to give a facelift to the most hated symbol in the country.

01:13:49.000 It's just really counterproductive.

01:13:52.000 So, I don't know what the intentions are.

01:13:54.000 I don't know if they're malicious, but I don't think they're not doing it right.

01:13:59.000 And whether or not they have good intentions, it's going to harm us either way.

01:14:02.000 So, we have to be pretty serious about that.

01:14:05.000 Undercity Huckster, can you talk about Laura Loomer's new nose? 1.00

01:14:09.000 You haven't respected women yet today. 1.00

01:14:11.000 Yeah, Laura Loomer, I mean, give me a break with this woman. 1.00

01:14:14.000 She's raising money for the tire. 0.99

01:14:16.000 I mean, come on.

01:14:17.000 And then she goes, you know, that's the best part.

01:14:20.000 My tires are slashed, and like that, the GoFundMe page is up, right?

01:14:24.000 Like, of course, and she's begging for thousands of dollars.

01:14:27.000 It just, what are these people in it for?

01:14:30.000 What are these people in it for that your tires didn't get slashed?

01:14:35.000 We saw the pictures.

01:14:36.000 That's not what a slash looks like.

01:14:38.000 And then immediately you're begging for money.

01:14:40.000 And then if nobody donates and people make fun of it, then we're all villains.

01:14:45.000 Come on, Laura.

01:14:46.000 Come on, Laura Loomer and Ezra Levant.

01:14:49.000 Geez, with these people.

01:14:51.000 All about the money with these people.

01:14:54.000 We got six more.

01:14:55.000 We'll try and make it.

01:14:56.000 My battery's dying.

01:14:58.000 So at this point, it's about battery because I left my charger upstairs.

01:15:02.000 And who do we have? 0.72

01:15:04.000 Jacob, how do you expect to raise the white birth rate without opening up to socialism? 0.64

01:15:08.000 Screeching with socialism is not an argument. 0.67

01:15:12.000 I don't see why, you know, socialism is not necessary for that sort of thing.

01:15:17.000 It just isn't.

01:15:18.000 You're talking about incentives and systems.

01:15:20.000 There's many ways to skin a cat here, there's many ways to create the incentives and the systems to get this done.

01:15:26.000 Socialism doesn't do that.

01:15:28.000 Socialism in many countries doesn't do that.

01:15:31.000 You know, look at Venezuela.

01:15:32.000 Venezuela is a socialist country.

01:15:35.000 When you have people that are losing weight, Because there's not enough food on the shelves to feed them.

01:15:40.000 That is not something that is pronatal.

01:15:42.000 That is not pro growth.

01:15:44.000 Do we need to create a more social form of capitalism that is less focused on efficiency and more on quality of life?

01:15:52.000 Yes, of course.

01:15:54.000 It needs to be amended because it's not working.

01:15:56.000 But, you know, this socialist strain on the alt right I think is very counterproductive.

01:16:02.000 You have to read Rothbard, you have to read Mises, you have to read Hayek.

01:16:06.000 Strider.

01:16:08.000 Ever heard of the Order of Lepanto? 1.00

01:16:11.000 Small movement, Christian version of Eastern martial arts. 0.61

01:16:14.000 Good idea to preserve the culture. 0.97

01:16:17.000 Sounds vaguely familiar.

01:16:18.000 But again, any small organizations that you can form that encourage those virtues like discipline, character, integrity, courage, all of those things, responsibility, the answer would always be yes, in my opinion.

01:16:34.000 Alexios Urban, the biggest problem is people on our side not organizing in person.

01:16:39.000 How can we get people who get it?

01:16:41.000 To speak face to face.

01:16:42.000 We don't need that.

01:16:43.000 Why would you want more people who get it to speak face to face?

01:16:46.000 That's called a convention.

01:16:48.000 You know, does anything, does the movement grow by having a convention or does it just go faster and faster in a circle?

01:16:55.000 We don't need more people of like mind going to talk to each other.

01:16:58.000 We need our people to go out into the world and make more of us and get more people on the same page.

01:17:05.000 There's this thing in the alt right where we don't want to talk to anyone else.

01:17:08.000 We don't want to affiliate with anyone else.

01:17:10.000 We just want to go and, oh, it's our guys.

01:17:12.000 They're our guys now.

01:17:13.000 That's not how you grow a movement.

01:17:15.000 I mean, we need that to a certain extent because it builds morale, and, you know, there's that idea of camaraderie and support and all of that.

01:17:23.000 But if we're going to advance the cause, we've got plenty of morale building.

01:17:28.000 We've got plenty of chat rooms and forums and podcasts and conventions and rallies and things.

01:17:34.000 Now's the time to expand.

01:17:35.000 And so I would say that it's not a matter of organizing our guys in person wherever they are, few and far between, but creating more of them, getting them to advance our interests.

01:17:46.000 Strider, trains body and mind, what?

01:17:51.000 Train body and mind and tradition of Christian knighthood and chivalry ideas. 0.85

01:17:55.000 Yeah, that could be it. 0.90

01:17:57.000 Ethnic Americana, if we're unable to stop the demographic changes and we become a minority, what do we do then? 0.63

01:18:04.000 What's plan B? 0.99

01:18:05.000 Let's focus on plan A because it's 67%.

01:18:09.000 So, you know, it was 90%, what was that in 65?

01:18:13.000 So that's 52 years ago.

01:18:16.000 It went from 90 to 67 in 52 years.

01:18:18.000 We've got.

01:18:19.000 17% to go before we're less than 50%.

01:18:23.000 And even then, we're the largest group.

01:18:25.000 So, I would say that there's time.

01:18:27.000 Let's focus on plan A before we talk about plan B. Right now, and even then, there is potential for recovery.

01:18:35.000 And this is something, too, where if we bring in more people, this is sort of a gamble.

01:18:39.000 This would be my plan B if I were to have a plan B.

01:18:42.000 This would be a gamble.

01:18:43.000 You let people come in, you let the worst of the worst come in, basically, accelerationism.

01:18:48.000 You have, through experience, people understand this reality, and then there's a rebound, and then we're incentivized by that.

01:18:56.000 Because there's risk and there's a threat to repopulate and everything else.

01:19:01.000 But, I mean, that's a gamble.

01:19:02.000 Plan A is make the institutions now, make the systems now before it's existentially a threat.

01:19:09.000 And this is the last question.

01:19:11.000 Hey, Nick, have you read Don Quixote?

01:19:12.000 Yeah, we read an abridged version in high school.

01:19:17.000 Yeah, I make frequent mention to the quixotic dreams of the alt right and everyone else.

01:19:23.000 It's a good one.

01:19:25.000 I like it.

01:19:25.000 But so that's the show.

01:19:26.000 Those are all our questions.

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01:19:29.000 Get going because my battery's about to die and we've been doing overdrive for 20 minutes.

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - September 04, 2017

A Pro-Natal Gameplan for America | America First Ep. 8

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