America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - November 02, 2017


Alt Right in Review | America First Ep. 45


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00:00:02.000 Good evening, everybody.
00:00:03.000 You are watching America First.
00:00:04.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes, and we have a great show for you tonight.
00:00:09.000 It's been a busy week, a busy week for us here at America First Media.
00:00:14.000 Monday we had a regular show, but Tuesday we had our Halloween special.
00:00:18.000 Who could forget the pumpkin carving, the call ins, all that great fun that we had with you guys?
00:00:25.000 Yesterday we had a three hour marathon podcast with Richard B. Spencer.
00:00:32.000 And then, as we know, we had our talk with Mike Enoch in the evening last night.
00:00:36.000 So, finally got a good night's sleep for the first time last night, all week.
00:00:41.000 You know, it's been very busy.
00:00:42.000 Lots of content creation going on.
00:00:45.000 But we're back to our regular schedule tonight and tomorrow.
00:00:48.000 Just going to have a regular, chill episode.
00:00:51.000 High energy, but it's going to be a little bit more relaxed, not confrontational, not divisive, as people have been saying.
00:00:59.000 Some of the podcasts were.
00:01:00.000 I don't think so.
00:01:01.000 I thought yesterday.
00:01:03.000 The Richard Spencer podcast was very good.
00:01:05.000 And I thought our discussion with Enoch last night was very civil, very productive, ultimately.
00:01:10.000 So I have no problem with either of those.
00:01:13.000 I have to say, though, we didn't talk very much about Richard Spencer's appearance on Nationalist Review yesterday afternoon.
00:01:20.000 And if you didn't get a chance to hear that, I would recommend it.
00:01:23.000 It's a long episode, okay?
00:01:25.000 It's three hours.
00:01:26.000 I don't have the patience for one hour or two hours sometimes, let alone three.
00:01:30.000 That's a marathon session.
00:01:31.000 So if you haven't already listened to it, I would recommend listening to the last episode.
00:01:36.000 Hour about that's when all the critical optical questions started to come into play there.
00:01:43.000 And I didn't get a chance to talk on that, but I basically confirmed in talking with Richard Spencer my worst fear about the alt right.
00:01:52.000 And if you ask anybody in the movement, they would say that the alt right is Richard Spencer's definition because it was him, it was him and Paul Godfrey who coined the term.
00:02:00.000 He is the de facto leader of the alt right movement if it is a political organization, if it's a corporation.
00:02:07.000 And, you know, he runs altright.com.
00:02:09.000 He's seen as the de facto head of these political rallies and things.
00:02:13.000 And he confirmed yesterday my worst fear about it.
00:02:16.000 And I'm not trying to neg him in saying this, just trying to say that I'm concerned with the path people are taking who have come under his leadership, which is that he told me yesterday, and he told me in James, you can listen to it.
00:02:30.000 He said that he has no design for how we achieve reform in his image.
00:02:37.000 And he said that he wants this European consciousness, this white identity, and that's why he's pushing for this cultural awakening, this cultural force he wants to create that in the next generation, or maybe the generation after that, not in his lifetime, he said, those people will actualize the thoughts and this consciousness that he's talking about right now.
00:03:02.000 And I pointed out, and this is why I'm concerned about it, that in 150 years, We're going to be a minority in our own country, you know, and by a long shot.
00:03:11.000 We had Faith Goldie on the podcast on Saturday, and she said that in Canada, it would be 20% white in 100 years.
00:03:20.000 In America, I don't have any figures on what the population will look like in 100 years.
00:03:26.000 By 2065, we'll be about 40% of the population, white people.
00:03:32.000 So that's my concern, and I think that's where these two paths sort of diverge.
00:03:37.000 And people are saying maybe there's a middle ground.
00:03:39.000 I think it's certainly healthy to have a conversation.
00:03:41.000 I think it's healthy to have the dialectic going on, as Spencer himself said.
00:03:47.000 And I thought we had a very good conversation.
00:03:50.000 There was a disagreement, and it's kind of weird because so often when you have a disagreement these days, people project and they read into it bad blood or negativity or fighting or arguing.
00:04:03.000 I thought it was a debate.
00:04:04.000 It was a very civil disagreement that should be had, and it's okay to have disagreements.
00:04:10.000 So I was very happy with it yesterday, but I think it kind of laid out where those differences are.
00:04:14.000 Where my camp is focused on the short term, focused on politics, party politics in particular, winning elections.
00:04:23.000 Passing legislation.
00:04:24.000 Richard Spencer would scoff at that.
00:04:26.000 Richard Spencer's angle is having this racial consciousness, this awakening, and in the long term, then we retake our country like a phoenix rising out of the ashes.
00:04:38.000 He's already conceded that white culture, white consciousness, all of this is basically a given, that we're essentially already a minority in his eyes, given current trends and everything.
00:04:50.000 So that's that.
00:04:51.000 So that was our conversation.
00:04:52.000 Just want to give an overview, real briefly, for people that didn't hear.
00:04:55.000 Who didn't have the patience to stick out the whole three hours?
00:04:58.000 If you want to get the most out of it, just check out that last hour.
00:05:01.000 That's when all that stuff really happened.
00:05:03.000 But yeah, I mean, I know a lot of people have different feelings about those two people, Spencer and Enoch.
00:05:08.000 And certainly I have personal feelings about what they're doing.
00:05:13.000 But I think, regardless, it's important to sit down with them and talk and have a dialogue and have a conversation because, like it or not, you might think Spencer and Enoch, and I know some of my followers are not wild about them.
00:05:25.000 Many people think they're hucksters.
00:05:27.000 I don't think that.
00:05:28.000 But many people have this opinion.
00:05:30.000 Regardless of that, Spencer and Enoch have a big audience.
00:05:33.000 They have a lot of influence.
00:05:34.000 They are a part of the conversation, whether we like that or not.
00:05:38.000 So it's important to have them on and have that dialogue, have that exchange.
00:05:43.000 So that was good.
00:05:43.000 I think that's positive that we maintain those healthy relationships despite personal feelings, despite what people might think of them.
00:05:50.000 You know, in politics, if we are pushing the political agenda, if we are pushing the extremely pragmatic angle, then we should be friends with everybody.
00:05:59.000 We should be friends with everybody.
00:06:01.000 Who was willing to be cooperative.
00:06:02.000 And so I think that's why I'm happy to have friends on the alt right as well as on the alt light and many other places.
00:06:08.000 So that was that.
00:06:10.000 That was our talk with the alt right yesterday in the afternoon and then in the evening.
00:06:16.000 The comments section on the video last night on the Enoch show were brutal against me.
00:06:23.000 People telling me Mike Enoch's right, Nick, you're disrespectful, you're young, and all this other stuff.
00:06:31.000 And I just have to laugh because me and Mike are cool.
00:06:35.000 You know, I complimented him last night.
00:06:37.000 You know, we had this friendly conversation, and the followers of both fandoms are going to battle it out in the comment section with all this negativity.
00:06:46.000 And I'm thinking, you know, me and Mike are fine.
00:06:48.000 We are congenial.
00:06:49.000 We have this friendly political alliance there, and people in the comments are trying to ruin it.
00:06:56.000 So I just had to laugh at that.
00:06:58.000 But that was our day with the alt right.
00:07:00.000 There's a lot to talk about today.
00:07:02.000 Not a lot in the news per se, but a lot of things going on more broadly in the Country that we have to talk about, that we have to get to.
00:07:11.000 For starters, one of the biggest things I saw today was that Milo Yiannopoulos just got canned by Robert Mercer.
00:07:19.000 For those that have been following the Nick Fuentes Milo saga, or the Milo saga in general, Milo's been able to rise and ascend, or recede rather, to a huge position in the right wing media landscape with funding from the Mercer family, which is headed by Robert Mercer.
00:07:38.000 And the Mercers are this billionaire family.
00:07:40.000 I'm not sure.
00:07:41.000 What industry are they in?
00:07:41.000 I think they're in finance.
00:07:43.000 I could be wrong.
00:07:44.000 But they're these billionaires.
00:07:45.000 They bankroll Milo, they bankroll Breitbart.
00:07:49.000 And for people that have been watching this saga unfold over the past five months, it came out on BuzzFeed earlier, I think it was a couple of weeks ago, and it detailed this slow climb by Milo Yiannopoulos from relatively obscure provocateur, as he likes to call himself, to this massive social media power, this massive figure in the right wing.
00:08:12.000 And that was some kind of an email leak.
00:08:14.000 They leaked all these emails from Milo Yiannopoulos' aides and assistants and people in Breitbart.
00:08:20.000 And a lot of the seedy things that went on, or at least seedy for mainstream donors.
00:08:24.000 I understand that Robert Mercer, in his statement this morning, he talked about how he's this normie conservative, this small government, individualist type conservative.
00:08:34.000 But he said that he bankrolled Milo and Breitbart and Bannon anyway because they're fighting for smaller government.
00:08:40.000 Well, this BuzzFeed piece that came out a couple of weeks ago that detailed some of the emails, some of the relationships that were had with Milo and others in the fringe, more of a fringe right wing category like Spencer and others.
00:08:53.000 Mercer said he wanted nothing to do with that.
00:08:56.000 That's not okay.
00:08:57.000 Bigotry is bad, you know, all that stuff.
00:09:00.000 So disassociate himself completely.
00:09:03.000 And that's big news because I think very quickly we're moving towards a point where you're either with the establishment on all these things, you're either with the anti white establishment, you hate white people, you're a part of the racist crowd where you believe in racism and you talk about racism and you condemn racism.
00:09:24.000 And you support Israel and all that normie nonsense, and you're a Fox News Mercer type, or you're with us.
00:09:31.000 And I think more and more you're seeing that demarcation sharpened, that line sharpened and crystallized, that line in the sand.
00:09:39.000 When you see Milo, who's married to a black man, he's a homosexual, he's Jewish, he's married to a black man.
00:09:47.000 All he does is brag about having sex with black people, and that's not good enough.
00:09:53.000 Because he, in a karaoke bar six months ago, Does this funny song with Richard Spencer in the audience?
00:10:02.000 He's canned.
00:10:03.000 He's out.
00:10:04.000 It wasn't, you know, being a pedophile, being a literal pedophile, that was fine.
00:10:10.000 Still got Mercer money.
00:10:12.000 He still, actually, he got more money.
00:10:15.000 After he got fired from Breitbart, after he got his book deal revoked by Simon Schuster, after he got kicked out of CPAC, the Mercer family gave him an additional $15 million.
00:10:29.000 To start his tour, to get his book published, to get Milo Inc. off the ground.
00:10:34.000 That's his company.
00:10:36.000 After all the cocaine controversy, he had an intervention in Alaska because he was missing media appearances because he was partying too much.
00:10:48.000 He's in this mansion in Miami, partying, doing drugs, having these orgies.
00:10:55.000 And we forget that he got fired because he talked about adults having gay relationships with children.
00:11:01.000 He said that's okay.
00:11:03.000 That's why I got fired from all this stuff.
00:11:05.000 The Mercers give him an additional $15 million.
00:11:08.000 He goes on this insane tour with the drugs and the sex and the parties and the race mixing and the degeneracy, the debauchery.
00:11:16.000 He does this massive scam with Free Speech Week at Berkeley University where he just straight up lies to people.
00:11:24.000 He just straight up tells them Steve Bannon, Ann Coulter, Charles Murray are going to be there when he never contacted them.
00:11:32.000 All of that was fine.
00:11:34.000 All of that was okay.
00:11:36.000 The Mercers were willing to keep shelling out money for that to the tune of tens of millions of dollars and to associate with them and to have their name associated with this guy and to have their money invested in this guy after he wastes it, after he shows up at Infowars headquarters and he has to spend his own personal money because he blew through Mercer money on drugs.
00:11:58.000 That was all okay.
00:12:00.000 Oh, but you see, he went to a karaoke bar six months ago and Richard Spencer was there.
00:12:08.000 And Richard Spencer.
00:12:10.000 Doesn't hate white people, so we can have nothing to do.
00:12:16.000 That was the last straw.
00:12:17.000 You know, it was okay when he actively called for pedophilia and said that was okay.
00:12:22.000 That was fine.
00:12:23.000 It was fine when he was addicted to cocaine and having orgies at his mansion in Miami.
00:12:28.000 It was fine when he was blowing our money and throwing it in the garbage, missing media appearances.
00:12:33.000 It was fine when he was lying to his fans, having them spend hundreds of dollars to fly out to Berkeley for a rally that was never supposed to happen.
00:12:44.000 But Richard Spencer, pro white guy, I'm sorry, that's a bridge too far, I'm sorry.
00:12:50.000 Black boyfriend sucking black things, you know, that was okay.
00:12:56.000 But pro white, sorry, bye bye.
00:12:59.000 You talk about white people being okay, you talk about how America was a white country, bye bye, can't have it.
00:13:06.000 You had $15 million when you were just a pedophile, but when you became a pro white pedophile, I'm sorry, that's beyond the pale.
00:13:14.000 We're not giving any more money.
00:13:16.000 So it just goes to show that.
00:13:17.000 That is the new world order.
00:13:20.000 That's how it goes.
00:13:21.000 You want to know where the divide is?
00:13:22.000 You want to know what the real divide is in the country, the real establishment?
00:13:27.000 There it is right there.
00:13:28.000 It's white.
00:13:29.000 That's the issue.
00:13:30.000 People all the time, they tell me, the Cassie Dillons of the world, the mainstream conservatives and liberals even of the world, they say, you got to stop with the white stuff, Nick.
00:13:39.000 Nick, you got to stop with the pro white stuff.
00:13:41.000 This white obsession, this obsession with white people, talking about white people, it's got to stop.
00:13:46.000 Why can't you just talk about small government?
00:13:48.000 Why can't you just talk about the left?
00:13:51.000 It's because that's the establishment.
00:13:51.000 They say.
00:13:54.000 It's white hating.
00:13:55.000 I mean, that just shows you right there.
00:13:57.000 That is the plainest, clearest, most naked example of why we must necessarily fight to have it acceptable to advocate for white people.
00:14:09.000 Necessarily.
00:14:11.000 Because people and these people who have all the money, who control the establishment, they have two rules can't talk about white people, can't talk about how white people are being displaced.
00:14:23.000 Can't talk about how white people are the victims, can't talk about how white people are going away, and he can't talk about Israel.
00:14:31.000 And that's, of course, that's why we have to talk about those two things.
00:14:35.000 You know, this Robert Mercer wants to dump in $15 million for free speech, right?
00:14:40.000 That's why he's spending millions of dollars on the GOP.
00:14:45.000 It's because of free speech.
00:14:46.000 It's because they have a moral belief in freedom of speech, they have a moral belief in small government.
00:14:53.000 It's not because they want their taxes cut, right?
00:14:55.000 It's not because they want lower taxes for themselves.
00:14:58.000 It's because they want free speech.
00:14:58.000 No, no, no.
00:15:00.000 Well, where's the free speech for Richard Spencer?
00:15:02.000 Where's the free speech for me?
00:15:04.000 Huh?
00:15:05.000 I don't get free speech.
00:15:06.000 I talk about Israel.
00:15:07.000 I'm disinvited from every campus in the country.
00:15:10.000 I talk about white displacement.
00:15:11.000 I'm disinvited from every campus in the country.
00:15:14.000 Where's my free speech?
00:15:16.000 Obviously, they don't care about that free speech.
00:15:18.000 They care about free speech to talk about homosexuality.
00:15:21.000 They want free speech to talk about how feminism is fine, so long as it's not, like, retarded.
00:15:27.000 You know, so long as it's just women voting and in the workplace and.
00:15:31.000 Taking a dump on stay at home mothers, you know, that's fine.
00:15:36.000 So, and all the more reason why we have to be very serious and we have to grow up and focus on our optics because you know what?
00:15:46.000 The reason why it was unacceptable that he went with Richard Spencer is because Richard Spencer was throwing a Roman salute, because Richard Spencer was doing the Hail Hitler for people who don't know what a Roman salute is, because Richard Spencer at the NPI conference said, Hail Trump, Hail victory, and people.
00:16:02.000 People gave him the Roman salute.
00:16:04.000 That's why.
00:16:05.000 I'm sure if Richard Spencer was just a pro white guy, if he was just a pro white activist, I don't think it would have been a huge problem.
00:16:12.000 Maybe.
00:16:13.000 We can't really judge a hypothetical.
00:16:15.000 But it's because Richard Spencer, with his undercut, his fasci haircut, his European style of dress, his rhetoric, which makes a lot of references to Hitler, and the optics that surround him, he's made himself synonymous with white supremacy in the media.
00:16:31.000 Whether you agree with that characterization or not, I do not.
00:16:36.000 But that is what he's become synonymous with in the eyes of the mainstream media.
00:16:39.000 And that is poisoning the well.
00:16:42.000 That is poisoning the well of any kind of pro white activism, implicit or explicit, that could happen on the right wing.
00:16:51.000 And that's unfortunate.
00:16:52.000 And I think that's why it's so relevant.
00:16:55.000 People take issue with me all the time.
00:16:57.000 No, no, no, Nick, we can't talk about optics, all right?
00:17:00.000 Stop talking about optics.
00:17:01.000 They tell me not only are they mad at me for criticizing them, not only are they mad at me for criticizing people they like.
00:17:08.000 But they're mad at me for having a criticism at all.
00:17:11.000 No, no, no, no, Nick, you're wasting your breath.
00:17:13.000 You know, and Mike Enoch came on the show and he said that it's a waste of time to talk about optics.
00:17:17.000 It's a waste of time to counter signal people on the right.
00:17:21.000 And, you know, Mike was very congenial yesterday.
00:17:23.000 He was very friendly.
00:17:25.000 He sounded very friendly.
00:17:26.000 It was hard for me to be hard on him and grill him because he came off as so reasonable.
00:17:30.000 My mom, I'm talking to her upstairs after the show and she goes, Wow, he sounded so smart and reasonable.
00:17:36.000 I said, You think I.
00:17:38.000 I was too soft on him.
00:17:39.000 People said I was too soft on him.
00:17:40.000 She said, No, if you came after him anymore, you would have looked like a jerk because he was so likable.
00:17:46.000 But then I see on my timeline, I see a picture of Mike Enoch at the White Lives Matter rally where they have the National Socialist Movement and they have KKK members, and he's doing a Roman salute.
00:17:57.000 He's sitting there with the smug look on his face and he's doing the Hail Hitler.
00:18:03.000 And that's different.
00:18:04.000 That's different than being just pro white.
00:18:07.000 That's different than what he talked about last night.
00:18:09.000 What he talked about last night was making it okay to talk about white interests.
00:18:13.000 Agreed.
00:18:14.000 You know, if you watched last night, I said I agree with that.
00:18:16.000 What I don't agree with is confusing pro white with Hail Hitler.
00:18:21.000 That's a big difference.
00:18:22.000 That is a big difference.
00:18:24.000 And if you ask anybody, any normie, young or old, if they think whites are under attack in this country, they'll say yes.
00:18:32.000 They'll agree with you and they'll be mad about it and they'll want something to be done.
00:18:36.000 How many of those same people are a fan of Spencer, are a fan of Enoch?
00:18:40.000 And if you showed them a video, Of Spencer and Enoch are the ones you see in media would say they could get behind that.
00:18:46.000 And not only get behind that, but get behind that publicly.
00:18:49.000 Very few.
00:18:50.000 And I talk about it all the time.
00:18:52.000 The disparity between the 55% of white people who feel discriminated against in the country, that's NPR, 55% of white people in the country feel that white people are discriminated against, and the 9% of people that support the alt right.
00:19:07.000 That 45% difference is the failure of this movement.
00:19:11.000 That 45% difference is the abject.
00:19:14.000 Undeniable failure of this movement and its leadership.
00:19:18.000 You know, we talked about it yesterday.
00:19:20.000 We found some common ground.
00:19:21.000 We sharpen the disagreements, but that's what it is.
00:19:27.000 And I understand their message.
00:19:29.000 I mean, to a certain extent, they kept their message pure when they did the Hailgate at the NPI conference.
00:19:37.000 They kept people like Milo from co opting it.
00:19:39.000 But now it's time for a serious movement to give rise out of that, out of the old one, in between Breitbart and the alt right.
00:19:47.000 That is, has the optics of Breitbart, has the optics of draping yourself in the flag, the optics of Donald Trump hugging the flag.
00:19:55.000 Talking about our explorers, our entrepreneurs, and some of the rhetoric of the alt right, which is more explicit.
00:20:00.000 That's what has to happen.
00:20:02.000 And that's a perfect segue into what I intend to do about this.
00:20:07.000 People all week have been telling me, Nick, put up or shut up.
00:20:10.000 People are doing activism, and you're on your laptop.
00:20:13.000 You're doing your show.
00:20:14.000 You're only doing 10 hours of content a week.
00:20:17.000 You only dropped out of school to start a business with your own money, with your own finances, with your own name, with your own reputation on the line.
00:20:26.000 You only dropped out of school.
00:20:28.000 Get criticized by your own friends and family, get looked down on.
00:20:31.000 You only invested all your time and money into making 10 hours of content a week so you can get criticized.
00:20:37.000 You only did that.
00:20:38.000 Well, I said, okay, fair enough.
00:20:41.000 I'm only doing that and I'm not doing IRL activism that I criticize so much.
00:20:45.000 So I started and I looked into starting our own organization.
00:20:49.000 I looked into starting our own America First political activism organization.
00:20:54.000 I'm in touch with people already.
00:20:56.000 I don't want to talk about it too much because I don't want to give away the game plan.
00:21:00.000 But I'm in touch with people in DC to get this going, to get a framework for this, to get this started.
00:21:07.000 And I've already been tweeting about this.
00:21:08.000 If you want to get involved, if you want to get involved in activism, and I'm not talking like a weekly, people are telling me like, I can't spend three hours a day on this, Nick.
00:21:16.000 Should I even be emailing you?
00:21:18.000 I'm like, no, like, I'm not asking for three hours a day.
00:21:21.000 I'm not asking for like a daily commitment.
00:21:23.000 But if you're interested in some way, shape, or form in activism, it could be putting up a poster in your town, one poster in your school, on your bulletin board, or many.
00:21:33.000 If you're interested in volunteering for a campaign, if you're interested in volunteering to run for office, if you want to remain anonymous, that's okay too.
00:21:41.000 If you have special skills, we've had accountants email me, lawyers, graphics people, video people, music people, excuse me, all kinds of people.
00:21:50.000 If you have resources, you can email me at njfuentesblog at gmail.com.
00:21:57.000 That's njfuentesblog at gmail.com.
00:22:02.000 That's my blog email.
00:22:03.000 You know, once I get the organizational framework, I'll get like a company email, but that is the email to send your information to.
00:22:13.000 If you want to get involved, just send me an email, shoot me a brief email.
00:22:16.000 It doesn't have to be long, it doesn't have to be anything crazy, and just tell me like where you're from and I don't know what your interest is in your experience.
00:22:24.000 I know that sounds like people are like you're going to self dox to a Fed or something.
00:22:29.000 I don't know.
00:22:30.000 If you think like a 19 year old who's posting at 4 a.m. about Neon Genesis Evangelion is a Fed, you know, okay, fair enough.
00:22:39.000 Don't send it.
00:22:40.000 But if you're interested in being a part of the America First movement, which I think is rising in this country, which I think we can lead, just shoot me an email, njfuentesblogblog at gmail.com, and we'll get it started.
00:22:54.000 I've already gotten many, many people reach out to me.
00:22:56.000 We have people, I think the last time I checked, we have people in 30 states.
00:23:02.000 30 states.
00:23:03.000 We have activists in 30 states, and that was with two tweets.
00:23:07.000 We've got lawyers, accountants.
00:23:09.000 We have people, like I said, that do video, people that do audio, people with money, people with not so much money, people in high school, people in college, professionals, blue collar people, white collar people, all kinds of people.
00:23:21.000 And there's probably people in your city already.
00:23:23.000 27 states.
00:23:25.000 I think we're up to 60 different cities that I've gotten information from, that I've gotten people that are interested in joining the organization.
00:23:33.000 So we should have more information for you by the end of the year.
00:23:37.000 About what you can do.
00:23:39.000 We're looking into how we can set up student organizations on campuses.
00:23:43.000 We're looking into how you can get involved in your local GOP.
00:23:46.000 I've had people sending me information about what they've done to take over their local GOP.
00:23:51.000 But I think we can really bring together a tight knit organization that is America first and optics done the right way.
00:23:59.000 Okay, so that's my little pitch there.
00:24:01.000 I think that was a perfect segue.
00:24:02.000 We went from Spencer through to the Mercer through to the America first.
00:24:06.000 I think that's good.
00:24:07.000 It lays out pretty clearly what needs to be done.
00:24:10.000 That's that.
00:24:11.000 That's an item of business.
00:24:12.000 I probably should have talked about that in the beginning of the show when I get the most people.
00:24:16.000 But there it is.
00:24:17.000 That's America First.
00:24:18.000 The last thing, or the last couple of things I want to talk about before we get into your questions here, is I wanted to talk to you about the Hillary Clinton DNC episode, which I saw.
00:24:30.000 And this is another teachable moment here with the DNC.
00:24:35.000 If you saw today, it came out, and it was totally buried, of course, by the mainstream media.
00:24:41.000 Today, from Donna Brazil.
00:24:43.000 Donna Brazil was the interim head of the DNC, the Democrat National Committee.
00:24:49.000 And she came out in her book, which I think was released this week.
00:24:52.000 I don't know if it was released today, but somebody, it was newsworthy today that in her book, which is called Hacks, she wrote about how the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016 made a deal with the DNC where the Hillary Clinton basically took control of the DNC's money, their leadership, their organization in exchange for.
00:25:11.000 For the Hillary Clinton campaign funding the DNC.
00:25:14.000 And Donna Brazil alleges that the DNC was basically on life support until Hillary Clinton came along and said, We'll fund you if we can control the DNC.
00:25:25.000 And so she basically says that the Democrat primary in 2016 was rigged against Bernie Sanders.
00:25:30.000 And of course it would be.
00:25:31.000 If the DNC is bankrupt, except for Hillary Clinton funding it, of course they're going to be partial to Hillary Clinton.
00:25:37.000 How could they fund the 2016 election if they didn't have any money?
00:25:40.000 And their fundraising is horrible this year.
00:25:43.000 So it makes sense.
00:25:45.000 Elizabeth Warren also backed those claims.
00:25:48.000 And I think there's this civil war going on in the Democratic Party where you have this establishment that is dying, that was put really, I think, on the cross in 2016 when Hillary Clinton lost.
00:26:02.000 Because for the whole 2015 2016 election cycle, they said, shut up about Bernie Sanders.
00:26:09.000 They said, rally behind Hillary Clinton.
00:26:11.000 We don't want any infighting.
00:26:13.000 We don't want anybody bringing up Hillary Clinton's emails or we don't want anybody hitting Hillary Clinton really hard.
00:26:19.000 We're going to have a clean primary where Hillary Clinton's able to just dominate it.
00:26:23.000 And then when the primary ended, and it was very unfair, when it was rigged against Bernie Sanders, they said, shut up, stop talking about it.
00:26:30.000 It's time to rally behind your candidate because, like it or not, she's going to beat Donald Trump.
00:26:34.000 And then she lost.
00:26:37.000 Even though she had the endorsement of all the newspapers in the country, all the mainstream media outlets in the country, she had Facebook, Twitter, Google, she had all the late night hosts, she had television, she had Hollywood, she had celebrities.
00:26:50.000 You look at the DNC compared to the RNC.
00:26:53.000 The DNC had every major celebrity.
00:26:55.000 They had basketball players, singers, actors, and they spent, I think, twice as much as Trump over the course of the election.
00:27:03.000 So, they had every institutional advantage that they could possibly have going into it, and she still lost.
00:27:08.000 And right now, you have a crisis of confidence in the DNC where it's looking like they're about to nominate her again with the book tour, with all this.
00:27:17.000 You know, she's going around on this renewed campaign thing, and she selected Tom Perez to lead the DNC instead of Keith Ellison.
00:27:25.000 They went after Keith Ellison pretty brutally.
00:27:29.000 And now you're having this crisis of confidence in the DNC where you have people like Donna Brazil who were formerly in the establishment, people like Keith Ellison, people like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, who were willing last year to get behind the establishment and say, We don't like the system, but we like it better than the Republicans.
00:27:47.000 Now they're saying, If you can't beat the Republicans, you serve no purpose and you have to go.
00:27:52.000 And this teaches us a lesson.
00:27:53.000 Do you see the parallels?
00:27:55.000 Do you see the parallels here about counter signaling, about some of these questions?
00:28:00.000 It is so important to have those conversations, to have those criticisms be voiced in the fight.
00:28:07.000 It makes you stronger, not weaker.
00:28:10.000 And the Democrats have learned this.
00:28:11.000 They had to learn it the hard way.
00:28:13.000 Because if you saw during the 2016 election for the GOP, never in the history of politics did you have a more negative, a more personal primary than the Republicans had in 2016, where you had 17 candidates.
00:28:28.000 You had Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio spending millions, I think it was hundreds of millions of dollars on campaign ads against their own people.
00:28:37.000 You know, Donald Trump endured, I think, the worst.
00:28:40.000 Maybe it was RNC propaganda and the Trump tapes.
00:28:43.000 Maybe that was equal.
00:28:44.000 But some of the worst attacks he heard during the 2016 primary, even before the general election, from people like Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, John Kasich.
00:28:55.000 And the end result was we had the best primary challenger.
00:29:00.000 Nobody could have predicted that except for Ann Coulter.
00:29:03.000 Nobody in the Republican establishment, nobody in the Republican media could have predicted that Donald Trump would have been the only one who could have won.
00:29:11.000 I don't think Ted Cruz could have won.
00:29:12.000 I don't think Marco Rubio could have won.
00:29:15.000 Charles Krauthammer, Bill Crystal, Ted Cruz, what's his name?
00:29:21.000 The guy who used to run the party, Priebus.
00:29:23.000 None of them could have predicted that Donald Trump could have won, much less be the only person, the best person who could have won.
00:29:31.000 And that's why it was necessary that you had a primary.
00:29:34.000 Through those natural forces, through the natural, the cleansing fire of a fight, of a street fight, could we get the most qualified person?
00:29:43.000 It wasn't a top down decision.
00:29:45.000 And fortunately, nobody had to see that Donald Trump was it.
00:29:48.000 He just had to see it and he just had to win.
00:29:51.000 And he showed us.
00:29:53.000 If it was like the DNC, if it was like the alt right was being run right now, Donald Trump would be kicked out.
00:29:58.000 Donald Trump, you're an entryist.
00:30:01.000 Donald Trump, what did you do?
00:30:03.000 Mike Enoch and Spencer are doing rallies.
00:30:06.000 Donald Trump, what did you do?
00:30:08.000 Huh?
00:30:09.000 What did you do?
00:30:09.000 You just got here.
00:30:10.000 Sorry, but you just got here in the GOP.
00:30:13.000 You were a real estate developer for 50 years and you just got here.
00:30:16.000 So please.
00:30:17.000 Show some respect to the establishment.
00:30:19.000 Show some respect to Bill Crystal.
00:30:21.000 Show some respect to Charles Crodhammer and Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush.
00:30:25.000 It's Jeb Bush's turn.
00:30:26.000 Okay, Donald?
00:30:27.000 And you got to be respectful of that.
00:30:29.000 Okay?
00:30:30.000 Don't go after Jeb Bush for being connected to the Bush family like some people.
00:30:35.000 Don't go after Marco Rubio.
00:30:37.000 Don't go after some of these people.
00:30:40.000 That would look entryist.
00:30:41.000 You don't want to burn bridges, okay?
00:30:43.000 Those are people that are going to help us.
00:30:45.000 But he did it anyway.
00:30:46.000 It was a brutal, ugly fight.
00:30:48.000 He called Marco Rubio short.
00:30:50.000 He said he had a big penis.
00:30:52.000 He made fun of Jeb Bush.
00:30:53.000 He said George W. Bush was implicitly responsible for 9 11.
00:30:59.000 You know, things that any Republican advisor would quit over.
00:31:03.000 You know, if any establishment Republican advisor had heard that from Donald Trump, they would have walked off the job the next day after the South Carolina debate when Donald Trump said, 9 11, that's not keeping us safe.
00:31:16.000 You would have had everybody quit if that was a regular campaign.
00:31:20.000 So that just goes to show it is necessary to have infighting, it is necessary to have fighting, controversy.
00:31:27.000 You do not have to have a united front.
00:31:30.000 You have to have a united front if you're going to win an election.
00:31:32.000 But if you're trying to create like a consciousness, you know, no united front required.
00:31:37.000 You have to decide who is the front, you know, first.
00:31:39.000 So that's a good teachable moment.
00:31:42.000 And it's a perfect opportunity more than anything because this, you know, at the same time, while this is a teachable moment, it also goes to show it's the perfect opportunity for us to learn from the teachable moment.
00:31:55.000 Democrats are in shambles, they will not present a serious threat to the Republican Party, which you might not like it, but it is the right wing party compared to the left.
00:32:05.000 They will not present a threat to the Republican Party in five or ten years.
00:32:09.000 If they're lucky, that is the most generous, benevolent estimate of when they will be operable again, of when they will be a formidable opponent again.
00:32:20.000 Five to ten years.
00:32:22.000 Now is the time then to get our stuff together.
00:32:25.000 Now is the time to get everything in order and decide what kind of party we want to be after this transformative election.
00:32:32.000 You think we have it all buttoned up?
00:32:34.000 We have the most explosive election year?
00:32:37.000 Since the beginning of the country, maybe since the Civil War, we have the most explosive election, the most enormous political event that some people have said since 9 11, and we're supposed to have it buttoned up and be keeping everybody quiet after nine months.
00:32:52.000 Are you kidding me?
00:32:54.000 So there it is.
00:32:56.000 There it is.
00:32:57.000 There is the DNC.
00:32:59.000 It's good news.
00:33:00.000 It's good news for our guys that that party is in shambles and that they're keeping everybody on the tight lips.
00:33:10.000 It's really hurt them.
00:33:11.000 No, it's killing them.
00:33:12.000 It is absolutely killing them.
00:33:15.000 It can't work anymore like that, you know?
00:33:17.000 And, you know, here's the thing that policy worked when they had competent leadership.
00:33:24.000 That's, you know, we can learn a lot from the left in some of these examples.
00:33:28.000 And in 2004 and then in 2008, the tight lips thing worked because you had competent leadership, right?
00:33:36.000 You had really good people.
00:33:38.000 You had people like Hillary, well, you had Barack Obama, who won the election all.
00:33:41.000 And actually, that's kind of a bad example because Barack Obama was an insurgent.
00:33:45.000 Barack Obama was an upset.
00:33:47.000 So that's actually just another example of when contentious primaries help people.
00:33:52.000 So actually, scratch that.
00:33:54.000 Maybe the tight lips worked with Bill Clinton in 92, right?
00:33:59.000 It didn't work so much with John Kerry in 2004.
00:34:01.000 But in 2008, when you had this jungle primary with all this heated, like very harsh rhetoric between Clinton and Barack Obama, yet Barack Obama was willing to cut people, basically, who was willing.
00:34:13.000 To have that edge, who is willing to cut down somebody, you know, and you should have seen the ads that they ran against Hillary Clinton for them to win that primary and ultimately to win the election.
00:34:22.000 So we can learn a lot from the left.
00:34:25.000 The left is collapsing because of their refusal to acknowledge the failure of their leadership.
00:34:31.000 You know, look at Antifa.
00:34:34.000 You think Antifa is a good thing or a bad thing for the left?
00:34:37.000 You think that's a liability or an asset for the left that you have these jumokes, these clowns running around in the black?
00:34:43.000 My dad the other day goes to me, I want to go into the city and beat the shit out of some of these kids.
00:34:48.000 You know?
00:34:50.000 I want to go over there and, you know, because he goes, these guys are weak.
00:34:53.000 These guys are pathetic.
00:34:54.000 And that's a boomer who is a civic nationalist.
00:34:57.000 Not to counter signal dad, not to drag dad into this.
00:35:01.000 But my father's like a normie, conservative, like establishment kind of a guy.
00:35:06.000 I mean, he doesn't support the establishment, but he's not like in any capacity paleo conservative.
00:35:11.000 Like he's just your regular rake and conservative type of guy.
00:35:15.000 But he sees the left, he sees these black shirt Antifas, and he goes, I want to fight with the Kekistanis.
00:35:22.000 He didn't say Kekistanis by names.
00:35:24.000 He doesn't want to be affiliated with that goofiness.
00:35:26.000 But you know what I mean.
00:35:28.000 He wants to be on the ground beating the shit out of these people because.
00:35:31.000 They look terrible because the optics are bad.
00:35:34.000 Because any regular conservative can be transformed into a street warrior because of how bad the optics are on that side.
00:35:42.000 And Nancy Pelosi comes out and condemns them before Paul Ryan does.
00:35:46.000 You know, so they say, you can't criticize your radicals.
00:35:49.000 You can't counter signal your own people.
00:35:51.000 Look at the left.
00:35:52.000 Nancy Pelosi condemned Antifa in the strongest terms before Paul Ryan did.
00:35:58.000 So there it is.
00:36:00.000 There's your.
00:36:02.000 There's your day today.
00:36:03.000 Lots of things going on in the meta political world.
00:36:06.000 There's a lot to learn from Milo Yiannopoulos.
00:36:09.000 There's a lot to learn from Antifa, from Hillary Clinton, from all this stuff that's been going on.
00:36:15.000 We have to be internalizing these things.
00:36:17.000 We have to be internalizing them and practicing them.
00:36:21.000 And I don't see it.
00:36:23.000 And I get a lot of criticism for it.
00:36:24.000 I don't care.
00:36:25.000 You know, fine.
00:36:27.000 I got an email the other day from somebody who emailed me who wanted to get involved in America First activism, wanted to get involved with this movement.
00:36:34.000 And he said, I look at my two beautiful daughters, this good guy who's got kids, who's married and has kids, which is more than some of these people can say.
00:36:43.000 He goes, I look at my two beautiful daughters and I think what it's going to be like for them when they're a minority.
00:36:47.000 And then I see the National Socialist Movement and the KKK show up at White Lives Matter and people doing Roman salutes.
00:36:54.000 He said, and it makes my blood boil because this is serious and it's time for grownups, it's time for adults.
00:37:00.000 And ironically, you know, I'm 19, but he says, it's time for adults to take control of this movement and for it to mature a little bit.
00:37:07.000 And that's what we're doing it for.
00:37:09.000 That's why people can complain all you want.
00:37:12.000 Send me all the emails you want, bitch about it on the DMs, call me on the phone, complain about it.
00:37:18.000 You can have this little gossipy thing.
00:37:20.000 I'm getting all kinds of criticism.
00:37:22.000 At the end of the day, I'm doing it because I want to get married one day and I want to have kids and I don't want them to live in a non white country or a country where we don't have a white majority because it's not going to be good.
00:37:33.000 It's not going to be fun for anybody when you have this anti white establishment and an anti white demographic.
00:37:40.000 That's going to be very hard for them.
00:37:42.000 And so that's why I'm doing this.
00:37:43.000 So, all these people, all these anonymous accounts on Twitter that are calling me, you know, saying, I'm not a team player.
00:37:50.000 Nick, you're being unfair.
00:37:51.000 Nick, you should be voicing these in the DMs.
00:37:54.000 I don't care.
00:37:54.000 I'm not doing it for anonymous people who want to serve a movement and be a part of the movement for the sake of the movement.
00:38:00.000 I'm doing this because I want what's best for my kids.
00:38:03.000 And so that's why I could care less what the criticism is.
00:38:06.000 I could care less, you know, what kind of heat I get, what kind of people get mad at me, really.
00:38:11.000 So.
00:38:12.000 So that's where I'm at.
00:38:13.000 Hopefully that resolves it for this week.
00:38:15.000 I know it's been going on for a long time, but just to synthesize, if you will, just to synthesize some of these things, I think it's important to take a little bit from the Breitbart where it's been failing, take a little bit from Miley Yiannopoulos where it's an abject failure, take a little bit from the DNC where it's horrible, and say that there is a real opportunity here in 2018 and 2020 and beyond to win elections, to get these reforms necessary.
00:38:42.000 You know, I saw somebody tweeting the other day.
00:38:45.000 Somebody did a demographic calculator and they found looking at all kinds of numbers and crunching all kinds of data.
00:38:52.000 And I forget the name of the account.
00:38:53.000 They're going to write an article for us on our website.
00:38:57.000 But they basically determined that if we stopped all immigration, in 50 years, the demographics would stay the same, essentially.
00:39:06.000 You'd have 50% whites as opposed to 40% whites if immigration continued.
00:39:11.000 And he essentially said this is 100% preventable.
00:39:14.000 This is 100% in our control to freeze in its current position, which would buy us time, and then to fix if we had a pronatal policy.
00:39:24.000 That's all it takes.
00:39:25.000 That's all it takes.
00:39:26.000 How difficult is it to sell?
00:39:30.000 Maternity leave, to sell paid maternity leave to a GOP voter.
00:39:33.000 How difficult is it to sell the RAISE Act to centrists and GOP voters?
00:39:38.000 I'll tell you what, it's much easier than selling pan European Francis Yockey civilizational consciousness.
00:39:45.000 You know, if at the very least it buys us time, I want to do that.
00:39:49.000 We want to do that for us, the living now.
00:39:52.000 So that's the political movement.
00:39:55.000 That's the battle cry.
00:39:56.000 We'll see what happens, right?
00:40:00.000 We'll see what the masses say about that.
00:40:03.000 But those are our topics.
00:40:04.000 We're going to take our questions now.
00:40:06.000 So, if you've got any questions in the super chat, we'll see what you guys are saying.
00:40:11.000 And we'll take some questions here.
00:40:14.000 Let's see, because we've got about 20 minutes left.
00:40:16.000 So, we'll see.
00:40:18.000 There hasn't been so much news.
00:40:19.000 So, it's been good that we had all these conversations and things on an off week, basically.
00:40:25.000 So, we'll take some questions.
00:40:26.000 We'll see how people are reacting to this.
00:40:29.000 Simon Skola says, Here's some shekels.
00:40:32.000 And he gives me a couple of bucks.
00:40:34.000 Thank you.
00:40:35.000 Joseph Hoffner Spencer actively counter signals violent revolution, but his strategy implicitly requires it.
00:40:42.000 He kind of said that on the program yesterday.
00:40:44.000 I mean, he told me, and I didn't want to say it this way because I knew he would say I was straw manning him, and I don't know if this is or not, but he says in the next generation, because he wants us to wait 100 years for this consciousness to happen, he wants us to wait after our generation dies.
00:41:00.000 So that's in 100 years, the next generation.
00:41:03.000 So in 100 years, when we're like 40 or 30 percent of the population, I just don't understand how that's a position of strength, how we can project power when we're 30% of the population.
00:41:13.000 I just can't wrap my head around that.
00:41:15.000 People are saying you're immature and you don't get it.
00:41:18.000 No, I get it.
00:41:18.000 You need to change minds.
00:41:19.000 I get it.
00:41:20.000 You need a consciousness and all that.
00:41:21.000 I get that.
00:41:23.000 I get that you need a cultural awakening.
00:41:25.000 When you're 30% of the population, how are you going to save your country?
00:41:32.000 Unless you're, I mean, government is the only institution with a monopoly on force that could remove people.
00:41:39.000 People that could change immigration policy.
00:41:41.000 I mean, they're in control.
00:41:42.000 Whether you agree with that or not, that's how it is.
00:41:45.000 So you would either need like a paramilitary organization or you would need to subvert the government, in which case, I just don't see that level of organization.
00:41:54.000 I mean, people would see that coming.
00:41:55.000 If you have an anti white establishment, they're going to let white people subvert it.
00:42:00.000 I don't see that happening.
00:42:02.000 I just don't see how you project power.
00:42:03.000 And he says, oh, well, revolution is one way you could overturn it.
00:42:06.000 Sorry, I don't want my kids to fight a violent revolution that will get crushed.
00:42:10.000 By an advanced military and by 70% of the population.
00:42:15.000 So, yeah, I just can't wrap my head around how else it happened.
00:42:18.000 I just, when I say can't wrap my head around it, I cannot stress to you, I cannot square this circle in my head.
00:42:24.000 If I could, I would tell you.
00:42:26.000 If I could, I would make arguments for Richard Spencer just for the sake of argument.
00:42:34.000 But I cannot wrap my head around it.
00:42:36.000 He says, well, it's not my job to make a plan, it's my job to offer a vision and an ideal.
00:42:41.000 And I say, okay, But what's going to give legs to that?
00:42:44.000 How is that going to practically work itself out?
00:42:46.000 And he says, well, you know, that's really not important.
00:42:48.000 That's the short term winning elections.
00:42:50.000 That's really not important.
00:42:51.000 Okay, but in 100 years, when we're 30% of the population, just how do you take back your country?
00:42:57.000 You can't win an election.
00:42:59.000 You cannot win a national election.
00:43:00.000 It won't happen.
00:43:01.000 You cannot subvert.
00:43:02.000 They hate white people.
00:43:03.000 Assume that they're going to hate white people.
00:43:05.000 They're not going to let you hold cabinet positions.
00:43:08.000 You cannot fight the federal government.
00:43:10.000 I don't know if you've seen the technology they have, but you just can't do it.
00:43:14.000 What do you think Democrats are going to do when they win elections?
00:43:16.000 They're going to have gun control.
00:43:17.000 What do you think Democrats are going to do when they win elections?
00:43:19.000 They're going to bring in millions more people from the third world.
00:43:22.000 You're not going to have guns.
00:43:23.000 You're not going to have a demographic advantage.
00:43:25.000 You're not going to have institutions.
00:43:28.000 So, what's it going to be?
00:43:31.000 I don't understand.
00:43:32.000 I just do not understand.
00:43:33.000 And if somebody could please explain that to me, maybe that'll be the next conversation.
00:43:38.000 And I kept asking that on Nationalist Review, and James and Richard are scoffing at me.
00:43:42.000 They're like, he just doesn't get it.
00:43:45.000 Like, please explain to me.
00:43:48.000 If I'm like this low IQ, I just don't get it.
00:43:51.000 I just don't get this big brain nibbous stuff, I would just.
00:43:55.000 You know, and Spencer said he would make a video explaining this.
00:43:58.000 I wish he would explain.
00:44:00.000 All I'm asking for is like a framework.
00:44:02.000 It could be the most fantastical.
00:44:04.000 He could tell me that we're like, we're going to have a violent revolution.
00:44:08.000 We're going to do X, Y, and Z, and we're going to.
00:44:10.000 He could tell me his plan is the Turner Diaries.
00:44:13.000 And I would say at least we have a plan.
00:44:15.000 I would say that's insane and that's totally irrational, the Turner Diaries.
00:44:19.000 But I would say at least there's an idea for how this could happen.
00:44:22.000 At least there's a framework.
00:44:23.000 And then we can argue whose is the better framework.
00:44:26.000 But when you.
00:44:27.000 You can't even, like, it's like, oh, well, there's other ways of transforming government other than elections.
00:44:32.000 That doesn't, I'm sorry, I can't give my life to a movement like that.
00:44:35.000 I just can't.
00:44:36.000 And I know a lot of people also can't.
00:44:38.000 So I get that.
00:44:41.000 Simon Skola says, if you say the N word, I'll give you 10 shekels.
00:44:45.000 It's not worth it, creating that soundbite.
00:44:47.000 Because, you know, if I ever try to run an election, run in an election, or ever try to run a campaign organization, people say, here's Nick saying the N word.
00:44:56.000 And, you know, There's just a fine line between saying it in personal company and saying it online.
00:45:03.000 Because if you say it online, you said it in a recording.
00:45:06.000 And whether you agree with that taboo or not, if you try and come off as pro white but not racist, not racist as the media defines it, a clip of you saying the N word is not going to help you, not going to help your message.
00:45:21.000 So if you see me, if we're in a cafe or something, you know, whatever, we'll see what happens if you're not recording.
00:45:27.000 But I can't create that soundbite for you.
00:45:30.000 So sorry.
00:45:32.000 Howard Morton gives me the dollar.
00:45:34.000 Gary Oak gives me a dollar.
00:45:35.000 Thank you for the shekels.
00:45:37.000 Jumpin' Jack Flash says, Bad optics.
00:45:40.000 You guys literally discussed creating an African wildlife preserve with Africans as the animals on Nat Review, or Nat, that's the show, right?
00:45:48.000 Nationalist Review, yeah.
00:45:49.000 Yesterday.
00:45:50.000 Notice I did not like that.
00:45:53.000 I did not like that.
00:45:54.000 And that is why I did not really talk during that portion of it.
00:45:58.000 I disavow that.
00:45:59.000 I really do.
00:46:02.000 You know, somebody tweeted at me, Richard was flexing his intellectual muscles.
00:46:07.000 Nick was awfully quiet because he was overwhelmed.
00:46:10.000 No, I just know when to talk and when not to.
00:46:12.000 I know when you're saying something that you're going to regret later and when you're not.
00:46:17.000 So I was not thrilled about that part, but I knew that there was going to be a big fight in the second hour when we started to talk about optics.
00:46:25.000 So that's why I didn't want to, you know, start it off getting in people's business.
00:46:29.000 So yeah, that was no good.
00:46:31.000 That wasn't me.
00:46:32.000 If you're going to ridicule me for that bad optics, you talked about this.
00:46:35.000 I did not talk about that at all.
00:46:38.000 I actually reaffirmed Pat Buchanan, the paleoconservative vision of returning home.
00:46:44.000 I did not say that.
00:46:48.000 David Bowman, 113 Patriots, two Soy Cubes.
00:46:51.000 Click the like.
00:46:52.000 Click the like, Patriots.
00:46:54.000 Soy Cubes, BTFO, who are disliking.
00:46:57.000 And Simon Skola dropping the double shekel says, Vote for Shiva in mass.
00:47:02.000 He is a real Indian.
00:47:04.000 Vote for Shiva.
00:47:04.000 Yeah, there you go.
00:47:06.000 I volunteered to work for his campaign, but obviously I won't be returning, so I don't know if I'll be a big help there.
00:47:13.000 Alex says, The big tech crackdown on free speech was planned in advance.
00:47:18.000 To happen under Hillary, along with gun control, etc.
00:47:21.000 I believe Trump's election won't fully be appreciated for years.
00:47:25.000 No, you're right.
00:47:25.000 Just my hot take.
00:47:26.000 You're right.
00:47:27.000 And all these people who are saying elections don't matter, I cannot stress to you enough how much elections matter.
00:47:32.000 And I will tell you why, okay?
00:47:34.000 I will tell you why elections matter.
00:47:36.000 Let's say Donald Trump loses in 2020.
00:47:39.000 Okay?
00:47:39.000 For the sake of argument, let's say Donald Trump loses in 2020.
00:47:43.000 And by, if we're being generous, let's say 2032, demographic winter happens.
00:47:50.000 Texas goes blue.
00:47:51.000 Let's say 2032, and this is being generous, some projections show that Texas will turn Democratic by 2024.
00:47:58.000 But let's be optimistic.
00:47:59.000 Let's say it doesn't happen until 2032 that Texas turns blue.
00:48:03.000 And Georgia will turn blue, and Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Florida, they all turn blue forever because you have more Hispanics in those states.
00:48:11.000 Hispanics vote for big government.
00:48:12.000 Hispanics vote for Democrats seven to three.
00:48:15.000 Okay?
00:48:16.000 Here is what happens.
00:48:17.000 Here is what I know happens immediately following that happening.
00:48:21.000 At some point in the next 50 years, you have a complete.
00:48:24.000 Abolition of the Second Amendment.
00:48:26.000 Guns become illegal in the country.
00:48:29.000 There's gun confiscations.
00:48:30.000 If Democrats control the House and the Senate and the White House forever, it is inevitable that this will happen eventually.
00:48:36.000 And I'll tell you how I know this.
00:48:38.000 You're going to have more mass shootings, you're going to have more terrorist attacks.
00:48:42.000 If Democrats don't have to worry about the NRA, if Democrats don't have to worry about a Republican challenge in a safe red state like Texas, you're going to get gun control.
00:48:52.000 And that is a slippery slope to permanent gun control.
00:48:55.000 Government takes control of health care completely.
00:48:57.000 That doesn't sound scary for our national socialists in the audience, but when you're a political dissident and the government runs the health care system, that's going to be a problem for you.
00:49:06.000 You're going to have complete government control of currency and the finance sector.
00:49:10.000 Again, that's not a big problem for us right now.
00:49:13.000 But when you're a political dissident and the Democrats control the media and the government completely, not going to be so great when they control your currency and Bitcoin is regulated and you don't have assets that you can control.
00:49:26.000 Taxes will go up, costs will go up.
00:49:28.000 Everything will become more expensive.
00:49:30.000 It's very difficult for a white middle class person who doesn't have the luxury of going on welfare or getting affirmative action going into school to afford a family when they're in debt and they can't afford their expenses.
00:49:40.000 So, that white birth rate that is already so low, it will never recover if Democrats control all these institutions.
00:49:48.000 Immigration will not stop.
00:49:50.000 It will increase, actually.
00:49:51.000 It will increase or stay the same.
00:49:53.000 Demographic winter becomes inevitable.
00:49:56.000 It becomes to the point where it'll be as bad as Canada, where whites, you know, we.
00:50:01.000 We talked about this 40%, this plurality of whites.
00:50:05.000 You won't have a plurality.
00:50:06.000 You'll have a plurality of Hispanics and a minority, a real minority of whites.
00:50:11.000 Immigration will continue the way it is, or it will increase every year after Democrats control the House, Senate, and the White House.
00:50:18.000 You'll have refugees.
00:50:19.000 You'll have immigrants from Asia, from Africa, from the Middle East.
00:50:22.000 There will be more terrorism because they'll bring in refugees.
00:50:26.000 There'll be more Muslims in the country.
00:50:28.000 Necessarily, you'll have more terrorism.
00:50:30.000 You'll have more immigration.
00:50:32.000 You'll have more chain migration.
00:50:34.000 You'll have higher birth rates for these people.
00:50:38.000 That is an unrecoverable position.
00:50:42.000 Unrecoverable.
00:50:43.000 Tell me how we get our way out of that.
00:50:45.000 I know we can say, oh, you're thinking in terms of elections.
00:50:49.000 That's so not metapolitical.
00:50:53.000 Nick, that's not metapolitical.
00:50:56.000 You're still thinking of elections, Nick?
00:50:58.000 You're still thinking of elections, Nicholas?
00:51:01.000 I'm sorry.
00:51:04.000 That's not sophisticated.
00:51:06.000 No, no, no, no.
00:51:07.000 We're talking about raising the consciousness of the white race.
00:51:11.000 Nicholas, we're talking about creating a culture, a vision.
00:51:16.000 An ideal, the ethnostate.
00:51:19.000 We're creating a vision to raise from the ashes.
00:51:21.000 Like, okay, that's great.
00:51:24.000 Tell me how we recover.
00:51:26.000 No guns.
00:51:27.000 Government controls healthcare.
00:51:28.000 Government controls education.
00:51:30.000 Government controls media.
00:51:32.000 Government controls finance.
00:51:34.000 Immigration doesn't stop and increases.
00:51:37.000 How is that recovered?
00:51:39.000 I don't see it.
00:51:40.000 And that's why I take this approach.
00:51:41.000 It's deadly serious.
00:51:44.000 And people can, it's easy for people to throw off elections like they don't matter.
00:51:48.000 Like, if you have no intention of ever doing political work, which is not fun and not easy and it's not exciting and it's not sexy, you know, you go to a rally, you get to dress up, you get to yell, you get to be with people you like, and it's one day.
00:52:03.000 And that's fun.
00:52:05.000 It's really fun.
00:52:06.000 And you get to listen to your edgy podcasts while you're at work in your normie job and you're anonymous.
00:52:10.000 You get to listen to your edgy podcasts and go, yeah, yeah, we're sticking it to the man, we're saying the N word.
00:52:17.000 So, when you have no intention of knocking on doors every week, When you have no intention of running for office, putting something on the line and taking a risk and running for office, when you have no intention of moderating your message for a broader audience to get reforms that you want and to compromise, easy to say we want this cultural thing.
00:52:38.000 So that's where I come from.
00:52:39.000 That's why I'm so serious about it.
00:52:40.000 I just don't see how we recover from all those things that necessarily happen.
00:52:44.000 And everybody can laugh at me for that.
00:52:46.000 By all means, laugh it up, chuckle away.
00:52:49.000 But unless someone can explain to me why I should not be worried about that, Or it's offensive for me to worry about that, or it's counter signaling for me to worry about that.
00:52:59.000 And this is the dialectic that Spencer talked about.
00:53:03.000 He said himself on the program at the end, he said, if the conversation is your vision of pragmatism and my vision of the ethereal vision and cultural consciousness, he said, that's good.
00:53:14.000 I said, I agree.
00:53:15.000 Let that conversation take place and it'll happen, it'll be evolving, it'll be dynamic.
00:53:15.000 I agree.
00:53:20.000 I'm perfectly okay with that.
00:53:23.000 And we got five minutes here until James' show.
00:53:26.000 Dominic Liberatore, appreciate the risk and sacrifice you're taking.
00:53:30.000 Can confirm your Putting America First speech is the best NJF primer.
00:53:34.000 Boomer Dad now likes Nick.
00:53:37.000 Much appreciated.
00:53:37.000 Thank you.
00:53:38.000 Glad you appreciate it.
00:53:40.000 Respect my sacrifice, right?
00:53:41.000 No, but no, but thank you.
00:53:43.000 Thank you.
00:53:44.000 I do appreciate that.
00:53:45.000 And that speech that I put out, and you can go watch it, it's called Putting America First with Nicholas J. Fuentes.
00:53:51.000 That speech was my vision for what this rhetoric should look like.
00:53:54.000 I got an audience full of.
00:53:57.000 A diverse audience.
00:53:58.000 You had people in there that were Asian.
00:54:00.000 You had people in there that were black.
00:54:01.000 You had people in there that were, and they were all boomers, by the way.
00:54:04.000 They were all old.
00:54:04.000 And I don't say that to criticize them.
00:54:06.000 I mean, I talked to them.
00:54:06.000 They're good people.
00:54:07.000 I shook hands with them.
00:54:08.000 These are people that are allies and they're smart.
00:54:11.000 And they've been working in this field for years, doing the hard work for their kids and everything.
00:54:16.000 So I don't say that in a disrespectful way.
00:54:18.000 But I say it to underscore the fact that I came out with a very anti immigration, anti legal immigration, pro white homogeneity message.
00:54:28.000 And I had people in there that were cheering and applauding.
00:54:31.000 And these were people who you would expect to be, who we would disparage in meme circles as like a basic bitch, cuck servant, as there they were.
00:54:40.000 And they were cheering and they liked my message because I phrased it in a way that did the message justice.
00:54:46.000 You know, I could have gone up there and said, I don't believe in equality.
00:54:50.000 I don't believe in democracy.
00:54:51.000 I don't believe in equality.
00:54:52.000 How outrageous am I?
00:54:55.000 And I believe those things, by the way, you know, but nobody would have wanted to help me.
00:55:01.000 Nobody would have wanted to campaign.
00:55:04.000 Nobody would have wanted to get those policies through.
00:55:06.000 So there you go.
00:55:08.000 And dissident right dropping a shekel.
00:55:11.000 Jeff Sheldon, love the show.
00:55:12.000 Nick, keep up the good work.
00:55:14.000 Thank you, my friend.
00:55:15.000 Simon Skola, you deserve the shekels anyway.
00:55:18.000 Here you go, Goy.
00:55:18.000 Well, thank you, Simon.
00:55:20.000 Gary Baker, what do you think about pushing Jared Taylor's freedom of association versus Spencer's white ethnostate?
00:55:27.000 Yes, it is genius.
00:55:28.000 Jared Taylor's freedom of association is exactly what needs to happen because people will go to where their people are.
00:55:38.000 Simple as that.
00:55:39.000 The present order is artificial and unnatural and forced.
00:55:43.000 If we simply stopped that effort to transform certain communities, it would resolve itself.
00:55:49.000 So I agree with that.
00:55:50.000 I cannot tell you how much I agree with that.
00:55:53.000 I cannot tell you how strong that messaging is as compared to other messages.
00:55:59.000 Charles Elmsworth, Jared Taylor, has been wildly successful in converting people to the movement despite not naming a certain issue.
00:56:06.000 Does that prove your optics point?
00:56:08.000 Yes, 100%.
00:56:10.000 And I talk about that issue, but I talk about it in a smart way.
00:56:14.000 So there you go.
00:56:16.000 Mac.
00:56:17.000 Ka Alpha Ka says, You, Fuentes, have you thought about creating a pro Italian American group and an Irish American movement?
00:56:25.000 Then we can lose the false white supremacist label and be subversive whilst being pro white.
00:56:30.000 Not necessarily only because, like, you know, I'm Italian starting, or I have the last name Fuentes starting an Italian group.
00:56:38.000 It would get weird eyes.
00:56:39.000 And also, we got to get away from that emphasis on racial and ethnic.
00:56:43.000 To an extent, we have to preach something that is implicitly racial.
00:56:48.000 So to make it explicitly ethnic, I think is.
00:56:51.000 Counterproductive.
00:56:53.000 And sorry, I'm shooting through these quickly, but we only got two minutes before overdrive.
00:56:57.000 Finbar Manning Trump called for the death penalty for NYC terrorists.
00:57:01.000 Thoughts on the death penalty in general?
00:57:03.000 I'm against it, except for in cases of treason and, yeah, just treason, I think, and terrorism.
00:57:11.000 Only because at that point you become an enemy combatant and not a citizen.
00:57:15.000 I just am terrified of the idea that government gets the power to kill people.
00:57:19.000 You know, like, you think about it, what happens if you get falsely convicted?
00:57:23.000 I know people say, well, that's the price of justice.
00:57:26.000 Okay, well, what happens if it's you?
00:57:27.000 What happens if it's you who's put in a show trial for being a political dissident?
00:57:32.000 You get your head chopped off because you were found with child porn, right?
00:57:37.000 All these people that get framed, you get found with two gunshots to the head or whatever, like that one guy who was the father of a Las Vegas shooting witness, or that guy, that girl, Rose McDowell, who spoke out against Hollywood.
00:57:52.000 Now she's in jail suddenly.
00:57:54.000 Or who was the one that just got Stephen Paddock's brother, who just got thrown in jail for child porn, right?
00:58:00.000 I mean, when you think that some of those crimes could have the death penalty if you start going all out for the death penalty, it scares the hell out of you if you're an enemy of the state.
00:58:14.000 Cornelius Mick, open fly.
00:58:16.000 Nick, don't forget about the eventual passing of hate speech laws if the Dems.
00:58:20.000 Yes, and the crackdown on the Internet.
00:58:22.000 Think about it.
00:58:23.000 It's going to be illegal to be alt right in five years.
00:58:25.000 You won't be able to get on the Internet if you're alt right in one year.
00:58:29.000 What's the plan for that?
00:58:30.000 What's the contingency for that?
00:58:33.000 Exactly right.
00:58:33.000 Good point.
00:58:34.000 I didn't think of that.
00:58:35.000 And our last shekel here, Simon Skola, would you ever go to an AMREN conference?
00:58:40.000 I am going to the next AMREN conference to speak.
00:58:43.000 So I will be there.
00:58:45.000 But that's going to do it for us tonight.
00:58:46.000 We've got to rush our outro because All Slips Overdrive starts in a moment.
00:58:50.000 But that's our show.
00:58:51.000 That's going to do it for us tonight.
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00:59:19.000 Thank you guys, as always, so much for watching.
00:59:21.000 Overdrive begins now, I believe, unless James tweeted at me like last time that it wasn't.
00:59:28.000 So I think we have Overdrive in a moment.
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