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00:00:57.000It's not my fault, but I am apologizing to you because it's my show and we told you that, but it was supposed to be live.
00:01:05.000We were doing, you know, it was sort of a complicated ordeal because I was talking to somebody, my assistant was talking to somebody, that guy was talking to them, they were talking to different people, so it was this whole thing, this whole mess.
00:01:25.000And we believed it was live right up until a couple hours ago.
00:01:32.000As of today, as of a few hours ago, it was supposed to be live and then it just wasn't.
00:03:56.000I was sort of waiting for it to go away.
00:03:57.000I was waiting for it to, you know, because a few weeks ago I was petting the dog and I rubbed my eye and then my eye got all red and I canceled the show.
00:04:06.000And then my eye looked better after like 10 minutes.
00:06:23.000I said, but by the time I tell them it wasn't true on Monday, they'll have forgotten how mad they were.
00:06:29.000If I go live on Monday and say, yeah, my eye was red, they're not going to be mad anymore because it's going to be Monday and they're going to be watching a show.
00:06:41.000So I did kind of feel bad because I said, yeah, big medical emergency.
00:07:35.000But if I say I'm sick, then everyone, you know, people won't be mad anymore.
00:07:39.000And they'll instead appreciate that I exist.
00:07:43.000You know, instead, they'll just be appreciative of what they have.
00:07:47.000Rather than being upset at what they do not have, rather than being angry because I didn't get a show tonight, they'll, because I say I'm sick, they'll think about a life without me where there are no shows at all.
00:08:00.000And instead of being mad because I didn't go live one night, they're gonna be appreciative that I go live at all, that I even do a show, that I did a show all week.
00:10:21.000People just keep fucking with me, man.
00:10:23.000Well, not really, just on Saturday and today, I guess, but Thursday and Friday was my fault.
00:10:31.000All right, well, like I said, I didn't prepare a show because I was in this interview, but I guess I'll just talk about the interview.
00:10:41.000And you'll see it all tomorrow, so this is just a preview, but we talked about all the usual stuff.
00:10:46.000You know, I come on there and they're like, are you a white supremacist?
00:10:50.000You said that having sex with black people is the same as having sex with dogs, and you said... They brought up, when I talked about... This is kind of funny.
00:11:00.000On a recent show, I said that the Taliban should run the airlines and they should, like, cut people's hands off for fighting.
00:12:52.000He's going to make it sound better than his real views.
00:12:55.000In other words, if I don't go on there and scream the N-word, if I don't go on there and say, kill N-words and, you know, then they say I'm a liar, basically.
00:13:05.000They say if I don't go on there and fit
00:13:51.000Because I want to say these views you think I'm just gonna... Where am I putting them?
00:13:56.000If not on my show, I stream thousands of hours over years.
00:14:01.000If not on any of my streams, interview appearances, media appearances, in my blog, on my Twitter, on my... Where the fuck am I putting these views then?
00:14:10.000They're like, well he's just hiding his real ones.
00:14:13.000It's like, no, you just don't like the fact that I'm a good spokesperson.
00:14:16.000You just don't like the fact that I'm persu... That's literally it.
00:14:20.000Oh, he's cheating by being too persuasive.
00:14:37.000Like, Destiny and some of the other liberals, they say, oh, well, he's just gonna hide his real views and he's gonna put a sanitized version and trick everybody into liking him, and then he's gonna unload the dog shit.
00:14:50.000It's like, actually, you can tune into my show, you can read my Telegram posts any fucking day, and those are my views.
00:15:01.000And then people say, well, he uses humor
00:15:04.000He uses complex layers of irony to conceal his views.
00:15:09.000Now when I say that I think the Taliban should run the airlines and cut people's hands off at the TSA booth, is that really like super complex?
00:15:19.000Is that like really difficult to disentangle?
00:15:23.000When I go on a show, when I do an extended joke, and I say things are so crazy, I prefer Al Qaeda run the airlines.
00:15:31.000Is it really so difficult to disentangle my meaning that I'm saying that things are bad?
00:15:37.000And they're so bad, it's as if something ridiculous would be better.
00:15:42.000I mean, like... But that's the other thing.
00:15:45.000They go, well, he's just jo... he's... he's... There's so many layers of convoluted irony that unless you're really paying attention, you're not going to be able to parse it.
00:16:00.000No, I don't think one group is better than another group.
00:16:03.000And right out of the gate, they're like, well, this is what they said you would do, you're hiding your real views, and... Because I said I believe in race.
00:16:13.000They're like, you say you believe in race, but what you really mean is black people are dumber than white people.
00:16:56.000To say that black people have the drums, and certain things, and what it means to be black, and what it means to be white, and the legacy of the relations between blacks and whites, or their history, and their own.
00:17:37.000And now the question about IQ, that's one aspect of it, that IQ is a heritable trait, and so if groups wind up with different IQs, and races are real, you know, that's human biodiversity, that's diversity within the human species, genetic diversity within the human species, then you would say that
00:18:00.000That there are different IQs, just like there are different heights and widths and other characteristics that are heritable.
00:18:51.000It's at least 50%, but it could be as high as 100% or 90% heritability.
00:18:57.000That it's genetics that accounts for the disparity.
00:19:01.000And anyway, so... So they try to get... they open with this like, you're a... not... they didn't say you're a liar, but they open with, so you're a white supremacist, so you said this, so you're dog-whistling, so you're doing this, and it just never ceases to amaze me
00:19:18.000How people are just allergic to the truth.
00:19:22.000They construct all these walls because it's not like I'm not making good arguments.
00:19:28.000It's not like I'm not making logical, presentable, sensible arguments.
00:19:33.000They are just constructing these mental barriers that they don't want to hear them.
00:21:04.000You know and like so if you just take the claim and begin to interrogate it begin to ask questions we don't need to get into studies we don't need to get a technical literature I mean if you're if you're qualified to do that if if you uh can understand that then by all means obviously that'd be the logical step to take it eventually but point being you don't need to be an expert you don't need to be
00:22:16.000When we're having these debates about controversial subjects, people can never just take the argument and think for themselves, and take the argument and entertain it.
00:22:46.000The presumed implications of it, well, maybe the claim is true, but it could lead to bad things, like race realism.
00:22:54.000Well, maybe that's true, but why are you interested in this?
00:22:57.000Well, if everyone thought that's true, then doesn't that mean that whites are better than blacks, or something like this.
00:23:04.000Or, on some level, they'll just abandon it altogether and just not participate and say, well I'm not qualified to rebut any of that, but I'm sure there is a rebuttal, but I just don't have the level of expertise.
00:23:16.000It's like, don't say you don't have the level of expertise.
00:24:57.000And when black people say, white people run everything, you know, Ye himself will say, you know, we're still buying stuff from white people and from white businesses.
00:25:12.000So what's hateful about saying that, you know, Jews run the media?
00:25:16.000That it's a Jewish media and they blackball people and so on?
00:25:20.000Why is that different from saying that other groups run things like Russia hacked the election and ran the Trump White House or that China owns everything and China's spying?
00:28:41.000And yet, here they are in America, a Christian nation, running an industry, where all the talent is black.
00:28:50.000And so it's sort of peculiar in that sense.
00:28:53.000And also, if they're characteristically distinct from the majority of the country and the majority of the people that are the talent, the substance of the industry, then what are the implications of those differ- what are those differences?
00:29:05.000What are the implications of those differences?
00:29:38.000Because you have Jewish people that run banking, and they run finance, and they run the government, and they run Hollywood, and they run the media, and they run the music industry, and you're, what, we're not allowed to talk about that?
00:29:51.000You can't, you're not allowed to notice that.
00:29:53.000If you notice it, there's something wrong with you.
00:29:55.000If you notice it, people are like, well, why does it matter?
00:29:58.000If you start pointing out all the Jews everywhere, people go, whoa, what are you, Hitler?
00:31:48.000So if the Jews really are in power, it would make sense that they wouldn't want people talking about it because if people start to talk, and it goes for anybody, it goes for any power.
00:31:57.000Power is best exercised when it's amorphous and where it's not easy to hit a target, it's not easy to identify, it's not easy to be accountable and have baggage and take responsibility for things and so on.
00:32:26.000They're not white in the sense that they're not European.
00:32:28.000They identify as ethnically different.
00:32:33.000So not only for anybody would it be beneficial to not be identified as in power, but particularly for a distinct, different, and in many ways foreign minority.
00:33:20.000If you're 2% of the population and you celebrate Hanukkah and you go to Jewish school and you celebrate your Sabbath on the Saturday and you told these stories about how you were segregated and genocided and persecuted and expelled and so on,
00:33:40.000You're going to be very cognizant of that fact when you go to school and you're with different kinds of people and so on.
00:33:48.000In other words, Jews are thinking about how different they are from everybody else way more than everybody else is thinking about how different they are from a tiny minority that isn't even very visible.
00:33:57.000And Jews blend in, they look white and they have white sounding last names.
00:34:02.000So they're not even, even like with Asians, at least Asians look distinctive.
00:34:05.000Jews, they look a little bit distinctive, but unless you really are aware,
00:34:43.000If the elite is white, if it's Jewish, it doesn't matter.
00:34:47.000Interchangeable, if we have an elite that is all white Christians and an elite that's all Jews, if it were benign, it would mean that it would really make no difference or it would not be detrimental, it would not be negative.
00:35:00.000But if you've got this minority which is sort of concealing their power, that's a problem.
00:35:06.000If you've got a minority which is distinct and foreign and conscientious of that, again, that may begin to pose an issue where it's not interchangeable and maybe it's not benign.
00:35:19.000Doesn't mean it's necessarily the worst thing in the world yet.
00:35:22.000We haven't gotten into that yet, but at the minimum we could say that certainly it's not interchangeable to have a Jewish elite versus a non-Jewish elite.
00:35:31.000And we could also say that if they're conscientious of this difference, and this is part of a sort of coordinated strategy or at least a deliberate strategy, maybe it's less than benign.
00:36:07.000If anybody that identified who was in power to hold them accountable, if anybody that even just discussed the nature of the regime was punished by that regime?
00:36:15.000There was a sort of like, you know, these... what would you call them?
00:36:38.000Maybe you would say, no it is benign and no they just work their way up and they just the way they're behaving is sensible and this all just makes perfect sense.
00:36:50.000But this conversation is not allowed to happen.
00:36:54.000And let's have the conversation, let's entertain the claims, but instead people get these allergic reactions and they say, anybody who's talking about this is crazy.
00:38:21.000These are all questions I'm interested in.
00:38:23.000And when you begin to peel back the layers, unfortunately, you find this incontrovertible truth, which is that there's a significant Jewish element.
00:38:33.000And it's not to say that there aren't other aspects to it that like there's no such thing as liberalism or white liberals or foreign states like China or the Gulf States or Muslim Brotherhood for that matter, other things going on, but this is something that you're not allowed to talk about probably because it's true.
00:38:55.000They've got the authority to crush anybody that acknowledges their authority
00:39:18.000And a billionaire celebrity said the Jewish media, and that wasn't true, and they weren't influential, and they didn't run the media, then they would be powerless.
00:39:28.000They'd just be on the sidelines like, hey man, get him to stop.
00:39:31.000Instead, they're forcing the interview to get taken down, the interviewer forced to apologize, he gets banned on Instagram and Twitter.
00:39:39.000It's like, okay, so clearly they're powerful.
00:39:42.000And is that not why Ye and others are being slandered?
00:40:11.000So anyway, but I'm not really even talking so much about yay I'm just using him as an example of this like allergic reaction to and This is my whole career.
00:40:21.000You know, I've been doing this for six years the show Coming up on six years in February and I started out as a normal guy like a normal establishment conservative
00:41:11.000So the content I was watching was billionaire funded political stuff as a kid and I was beginning to get my education in politics by just reading the sources that I found and I found stuff that was already selected in a sense because it was available.
00:41:28.000The things that are available is a form of selection.
00:41:31.000What about the things that are unavailable?
00:41:32.000The things that fewer people have heard of, fewer people have spoken of, things that aren't on the market so to speak or in the timeline?
00:41:41.000And so I believed all the establishment things because the only media that was eminently available was the establishment media.
00:41:54.000Well, like with everybody, I read all that.
00:42:02.000And I arrived at the fringe not because I'm a contrarian or because I'm seeking out something weird.
00:42:09.000It's just because that's where the compelling arguments were.
00:42:13.000And I started making them and then I just, this is my experience over the past six years,
00:42:18.000Just getting relentlessly attacked, lied about, slandered, cancelled, deplatformed, censored for saying these things.
00:42:27.000And it's not like I'm hung up on one or another issue, it's just I've got a view of the world, I've got a totally alternative view of the world and history, which I believe is in line with the facts, that is
00:42:43.000Again, which contradicts everything that the establishment, everything that people who are paid to create a narrative about history in the world say, which is the status quo.
00:42:55.000I've been on this journey and I've seen other people find out the truth and other people get these consequences and so on and it makes me feel better because it's like, you know, sometimes, well, early on I used to question, am I right?
00:43:13.000Am I a crazy person that they say I am?
00:43:16.000Am I the conspiracy theorist and is there something wrong with me?
00:43:19.000You know, because I'm the only one that believes this and so few people believe this, but over time it's like the evidence is just unignorable.
00:43:29.000The evidence I've gotten from experience and the evidence I've gotten from reading, you know, of course we're right about this stuff and it's good to see other people are waking up to it.
00:43:38.000Like these things just don't make sense.
00:44:06.000But people just assume, and when they can't come up with an argument for why it's wrong, because they don't know, they say, well, there must be one.
00:44:55.000Even to entertain in their mind, without believing it, that maybe this is the truth.
00:45:02.000And try to create patterns and try to you know, try to steel man the argument You know and that's so that's always disappointing because you like to see that but it's just like well, oh well Well, I don't know.
00:45:16.000I mean, I'm sure there's an argument against I just don't know and it's like, okay So you're just you're just refusing to participate.
00:46:00.000and some people never go there they'll never go there because you know for whatever reason they've got their own prejudices they've got their own intractable position but slowly but surely people find this show and they're like yeah like that's it I don't need to watch Crowder I don't need to watch this stuff where they talk about Biden shits his pants or whatever because it's like this is a real deal
00:46:23.000Over here, you know, and here's the problem with these things You don't you don't want to believe them because they seem you know, because there is a social barrier It's not popular to believe these things.
00:47:41.000It can't be if you're an honest person you can say whatever you want about why you say what you say but you can't be an honest person and tell me that it's not true.
00:47:50.000And I've heard a lot of people say well it's not it's not intelligent to say it publicly or it's not intelligent to say it like that or that you know
00:48:01.000We can't talk about it in order to achieve a certain strategy but nobody will ever sit down and really engage with it honestly and come away and say there's no truth to it.
00:48:18.000Once you see it, once you become conscientious, it's just like, what am I going to pretend I don't see it now?
00:48:24.000Pretend like it's just about Republicans and Democrats and Pelosi and it's not about these Jews, 2,000 years together with these people?
00:48:34.000And you see it every day, and you see it all the time.
00:48:36.000It's like, it's like Daily Wire with Ben Shapiro.
00:48:38.000You know, Ben Shapiro is gonna build his whole career off of fighting victim mentality and this left-wing ideology about the oppressor and the oppressed, and then he's gonna go and talk about, that's anti-Semitic.
00:49:59.000But if you think you're better than everybody, and you're just filled with contempt, if you're contemptuous of other people, then you shamelessly spin lies.
00:51:38.000If the real win is to be really calculated and lie all the time and eat shit for your whole life until you get the shot at something that the Jews give you, then somebody else can do that.
00:51:53.000I'm gonna tell the truth and even if it's foolish, there's still a value in it.
00:51:59.000And that's really the problem, so... Somebody's gotta do it, because you know what?
00:52:04.000If there were no truth-tellers, nobody would know the truth.
00:52:07.000So yeah, the truth-teller's gonna get their head cut off, and I'm gonna get censored and everything, and... You know, nobody should have to do that.
00:53:07.000And yeah, the first few people that tell the truth are gonna get totally fucking killed.
00:53:12.000The first guy that stands up and says, I'll dissent, gets shot in the face.
00:53:18.000And then the next guy also gets shot in the face.
00:53:20.000And then the next guy also gets shot in the face.
00:53:24.000And it's not until you get into like 20 people before...
00:53:27.000You know, like, maybe a few people start getting up together, and then it's like, okay, well, we only shot two of them, and, you know, then maybe ten people should, and it's like, okay, well, we can't kill them anymore, now we gotta fight, you know, and eventually, the hope is that the very delicate edifice of lies begins to crumble, and it's like, it's like dominoes, it's like a cresting wave, there's a, there's a multiplying effect to it,
00:53:57.000But without the people that are willing to go out there and be the one guy saying it, the most unpopular, lied about, slandered, pay a price, you know, it's never going to get to that next level.
00:54:09.000And people look at the consequence and they say, well, we need to avoid that.
00:57:25.000There's a great article in UN's review about all of the high-profile journalists in the first half of the 20th century who were nationally recognized names, reputable, prolific, literally erased from the historical record because they were against war, they were against Israel, or whatever.
00:57:44.000And it's like, so this goes back a long, long time.
00:57:50.000Go back to Jesus, frankly, you know, Jesus was one guy who got crucified and then it was the disciples and then and on and on and on and on.
00:57:59.000But the idea that we're never going to pay a price for being righteous, it's going to have to happen.
00:58:05.000The pain mechanism is part of the deal.
00:59:01.000That we live among a nation of many different tribes which are biologically different and distinct.
00:59:09.000These are very disruptive ideas to how people look at the world, and they're disruptive to ideas that our society is based on, that political legitimacy is based on.
00:59:21.000Why do they not want people to challenge equality?
00:59:24.000Well, it's not just because they believe in equality, it's because the legitimacy of the government's authority rests on some level on that.
00:59:33.000If they get their authority from the electoral process, and the electoral process gets its legitimacy from popular sovereignty, and popular sovereignty gets its legitimacy from individualism and equality, it's like, well, then you probably don't want people challenging equality and individualism.
00:59:50.000Because you undermine that, you undermine the basis by which people in power have their power, and people in power like their power.
01:00:21.000We're talking about undermining the political legitimacy of the rulers when you begin to disagree with them on a fundamental level.
01:00:28.000That's why they tolerate some level of dissent, but not a lot.
01:00:32.000They'll tolerate these little like, well, we like free enterprise, we like unions, we're Republican, Republican sovereignty, we like Democrat, we like democracy.
01:00:41.000But no one can say, I'm a fucking communist.
01:00:44.000Nobody, no, not really, you can be communist, but nobody could say, I like
01:00:49.000Hitler, you know, I'm like, we have to have a Catholic theocracy, or we should have, you know, something totally different.
01:01:03.000And anyway, so I, like I said, I didn't really put a show together, but just giving you some thoughts on that interview.
01:01:09.000Like I said, it comes out tomorrow, so you can see all of that, and um... And it was good, you know, we got into a lot of it, and they were friendly enough, but it was just...
01:01:17.000You know, Adam was, I mean, he was nice to me, but he kept being like, well, I can't, I don't have an argument against that because I don't, you know, I'm not well-read enough to really rebut that.
01:01:29.000So, and it's like, dude, just like, think about it, man.
01:03:29.000It's gonna be really funny when you're in the intensive care unit, when you're in the trauma unit, and they're identifying from a fluid sample, they're like, hmm... When a geneticist is examining the DNA sample, they're gonna be like,
01:04:24.000And we're debating about the Buffalo shooting, and he's reading back to me all these quotes from like, he's like, well, what you said five years ago was this.
01:04:34.000And I'm like, yeah, well, I, you know, I don't know why that's relevant.
01:04:37.000This is what I, this was the context for that.
01:04:40.000And he's basically just calling me a liar.
01:04:48.000If you just want to read statements I've already said, and then when I provide commentary to that, you're just going to dismiss all of it and say I'm a liar, then really you don't need me there, right?
01:05:04.000I mean, if the debate is just you reading my stated position, and then when I add things to the conversation, you don't even enter that into the record, you dismiss that,
01:06:14.000right first they just don't hear it they don't want to hear it they hate you you're crazy then then they hear it and they're like well I don't know maybe there's something else going on so we're just at that process they're just in denial at this point but it was still a pretty good conversation so
01:06:32.000That's coming out tomorrow, and I think I'll do a more in-depth show about Yay tomorrow.
01:06:38.000Because like I said, I didn't put any notes together, but I'll react to the Yay thing tomorrow and go into more detail about that.
01:06:48.000Alright, well I'll read some superchats now.
01:06:50.000Let's see what you guys have to say about all this.
01:06:53.000Then I'll call it a night because it's late.
01:06:55.000Okay, so let me read these superchats.
01:10:01.000Because last I checked, I can't sexually abuse anybody, nor am I getting a percentage of anybody's income.
01:10:12.000So, sounds like a pretty parasitic, that sounds like a very one-way cult.
01:10:17.000You get charismatic leadership, you get this parasocial relationship, you get leadership, you get friendship, you get this organization, you get these great things.
01:17:40.000Do you think Hevola is truly necessary reading for the dissident right or is he just a meme author whose books people buy because hes based?
01:17:47.000Super chatted this Friday but you weren't here nibba.
01:19:50.000I hate to be the guy that's like you're just old You know, I don't mean to be that guy because I love and respect him.
01:19:55.000I really do and I look up to him but But yeah, I don't I don't get it because I don't find that argument compelling at all But he seems to So yeah, it's interesting
01:20:12.000Yeah, he doesn't buy into the race stuff very much or the Jewish thing, but that's okay.
01:21:03.000And I would say that's because they're an urban people.
01:21:06.000They've never had a... they are not peasants.
01:21:10.000You know for thousands of years there they've always lived in the towns even though They were I mean they always sort of mediated between the elites and the peasants in their host countries and even though they all weren't powerful they were all in the towns like they were craftsmen and Merchants and
01:21:34.000All kinds of different things, but they were there were never a peasant class.
01:21:37.000So I think that has a lot to do with it legalistic urbanized So, I think that has a lot to do with it But I'm not an expert on that subject but that's that's my view on it
01:26:55.000Dude, Baked Alaska, the catchphrases, it's getting a little bit too much even for me.
01:27:00.000I was watching the Baked Alaska stream and every other second he says, what do you mean?
01:27:09.000I'm like, all right, it's getting even too much for me.
01:27:12.000Because I used to get such a kick out of it on his old stream when he would say, yo, yoba, or let's go, you know, or whatever the adlibs were.
01:27:48.000I think it's funny, but it's like, could you do it like 10% less?
01:27:54.000I love that guy so much he's so funny but I'm watching it and and I'll have it out of the background it's just like every other sentence what do you mean what what do you mean I'm like what are we doing here man he got it from Ice Poseidon yeah I knew it I knew that I was asking to be really not polite
01:28:21.000That's just so funny though dude, he's such a character.
01:30:51.000But, that's my... But I'm a humble man.
01:30:54.000But I'm a humble man, and then I remember I chose this life.
01:30:59.000Then I remember I chose not to indulge, because I could have really... You know, if I really didn't want to live by God's law, I could really just be a total animal.
01:31:10.000You think I'm a menace when I'm playing by the rules?
01:31:14.000I'm playing with two hands tied behind my back.
01:32:09.000The autocracy was coming down either way, whether he abdicated or not.
01:32:12.000It's very difficult to say questions like that, you know.
01:32:40.000Because it's, the idea that the Tsardom was going to last, it wasn't going to last.
01:32:48.000It was undergoing, well not the same, but similar problems as all the other, all the other countries throughout the 19th century, which was this Republican-Democratic Revolution, inaugurated by the American and French Revolutions, you know in 18, what is it, 1848.
01:33:10.000And in the 1820s and 30s And and you had dysfunction in Russia For a long time under Alexander the second Alexander the third Nicholas the second it wasn't like You know There was this decision that was made to give the country over to communism and the question is what form that would take and it was pretty interesting that it wound up being the Bolsheviks, but
01:33:42.000Yeah, I think without a doubt it would have been better if there was never communism, 100%.
01:33:46.000The Soviet Union was not a net positive for anybody.
01:33:50.000For Russia or for the world, I think it was a net negative for sure.
01:33:55.000But it's difficult to say how things would have played out, how they'd be different.