On today's show, Alex and Nick discuss the latest in the ongoing FBI witch hunt against President Trump, and how the Deep State is trying to delegitimize his 2020 re-election campaign. They talk about the deep state's tactics and what we should be looking out for in order to prepare for a possible false flag attack, and why we should all be on high alert for what they are planning to do in the coming days and weeks. Also, the Deep state is not messing around, and they are looking for a scapegoat to bring down on to blame for whatever it is that s coming next. Stay tuned to the end of the show for a special bonus episode where we discuss the possibility of a Black Identity Crisis in the near future. Tweet Me! if you like the show, please consider becoming a Friend of the Hour supporter! Timestamps: 5:00 - What's the biggest takeaway from this episode? 6:30 - The deep state is out to get Trump 7:20 - What s the biggest threat to our democracy? 8:15 - Who are the real scapegoats? 9:00 11:00 | What are the biggest threats to our democratic system? 12:40 - How can we prepare for the next election? 13:30 | What is the best way to prepare? 14:40 | What s going to happen next? 15:30 16:15 | What's next for us? 17:20 | Are we going to win in 2020? 18:40 19:00 Is there a black swan event? 21:00 What are we can we be prepared for? 22:00 Are we prepared for the real threat? 25:00 How do we have a black identity crisis? 26:00 Do we know what we can do? 27:00 Can we be ready for the future? 29:00 Will we win? 30:00 Should we be worried about what s the best option? 32:00 We'll be prepared? 35:00 Who are we really have a chance to win the next presidential candidate? 31:00 Does it get better than this? 36:00 // 33:30 Are we ready for a Black identity crisis ? 37:30 Do we have any idea who we can win the election in 2020 38:30 Can we win it?
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00:00:00.000Yesterday, I think this is the culmination of 10 years of this.
00:00:03.000I think that's maybe the biggest takeaway for guys like yourself, Alex, and certainly for people like me.
00:00:09.000This is the culmination of a very long period of time and basically a systematic witch hunt against the president.
00:00:17.000Every manner, every way, shape, and form that they can come after him, they've done it now.
00:00:23.000And I believe it started with the FISA warrant, which was issued in June 2016, which allowed the Obama administration to spy on Trump Tower and to spy on the campaign.
00:00:32.000Why was Obama never prosecuted for that?
00:00:37.000There's no prosecution for Obama, there's no prosecution for Hillary Clinton and all the deleted emails, no prosecution for Hunter Biden and the laptop, and no prosecution for Joe Biden, who's connected to that.
00:00:49.000And that's really the thing is, and I talked to this, I talked to Mario about this in the space the other day.
00:00:56.000We have all these lawyers getting in on this, and they're talking about the tedium and minutiae about this particular case.
00:01:02.000I think a lot of that is a distraction.
00:01:04.000I think to get too into the weeds on these particular cases, it's almost like, what are we even really talking about?
00:01:10.000Yeah, we know it's all fake crap, so my question is, Nick, because you're a smart guy, I respect you, very articulate.
00:01:16.000I don't agree with everything, but I think I agree you're smart.
00:02:43.000Turned out to be some, I mean, this is just like one, there are dozens of examples like this of actual false flags that were followed through with, some that were aborted.
00:02:53.000Or they were botched and memory hold we never heard about them again.
00:02:57.000So I think people need to be on high alert and this is why it's important for your audience to know this and for people on spaces.
00:03:03.000Be extremely careful about what you do and say between now and the election because the feds are not messing around.
00:03:21.000All these people are talking, and I saw you said this today on Twitter, Alex, or rather on X. You said it's very important to direct all of our energy
00:03:30.000And to targeted, precise political action.
00:03:33.000Not violence, not illegal activities, but you want to do something, go out there and engage in politics in a legal, legitimate way.
00:03:41.000And it's like you said earlier, they are Hitler in the bunker thinking that they can win.
00:03:46.000It's hubris, it's arrogance, and the one thing that they can't tolerate
00:03:50.000Is the kind of thing that we've seen, which is somebody like Trump, methodically and with perseverance, engaging in the system, winning the hearts and minds, and working through the process.
00:03:59.000We're talking about how this is threatening the democracy, it's breaking the system, it's breaking trust in the system.
00:04:05.000But I want to get you to try to, we did it earlier and I'm not sure if you were listening, but try to put your optimistic hat on.
00:04:11.000You know, looking at it from pink colored glasses.
00:04:13.000Because we need that, they want us to be pure negative.
00:04:56.000All of these false narratives that we have been battered over the head with for the past four years, they're all being dispelled largely because of free speech, largely because a spotlight is being shown on all this.
00:05:06.000And I think so, the optimistic track is that things keep going in the direction that they have been actually for the past couple of years.
00:05:13.000We're in a better spot now than maybe we've ever have been.
00:05:16.000And I think that's largely due to, and I think you mentioned this earlier, it's people coming together in the global village, it's people coming together on the
00:05:26.000Social platforms and being able to talk about these things openly.
00:05:30.000Censorship peaked in 2021 and it has started to recede.
00:05:34.000That's something that we never thought was possible.
00:05:37.000I remember doing my show in 2019 and thinking they were eventually going to go for the ISPs and they were going to make it so we couldn't even have websites.
00:05:44.000You know, forget about a Twitter account.
00:05:46.000I was thinking we were going to not be able to have websites or email or anything like that.
00:05:50.000So things actually have been moving in a better direction.
00:05:54.000The important thing is that people stay engaged and they keep pushing.
00:05:57.000The worst thing, and Alex, you're so right about this, this is what they want.
00:06:08.000Because it's when people despair, that's when people give up.
00:06:12.000And when people take their foot off the gas, or when people start to consider extreme forms of action, or maybe illegitimate forms of action, those are the things that play into their hands.
00:06:24.000I'm going to read out one thing while you're speaking, just looking at the polls.
00:06:28.000Less than an hour ago, Axios put out the following.
00:06:30.000I'm going to read it out for you, Nick.
00:06:32.000Get your thoughts on it, and Alex, your thoughts on it as well.
00:06:34.000Trump's historic felony conviction makes half of Republicans even more likely to vote for him, according to a poll and the verdict's immediate aftermath.
00:06:43.000Look, my phone never blew up like it did yesterday, and my parents have a lot of liberal friends, so do I. They're like, we're done, we're going for Trump.
00:06:55.000Nick, sorry, go ahead and answer his question.
00:07:05.000You know, after Donald Trump left office, I think that, and you know, whatever you think about the 2020 election, I think it was stolen.
00:07:12.000He left office and I think there was a real crisis where a lot of people are questioning if there was a future for Trump because his first term had been so sabotaged.
00:07:20.000The way he went out was so ignominious and such a disaster and it was really a rigged election and stolen.
00:08:03.000I mean, Nick Fuentes or Nick Schwartzworth, I mean, literally, they're like, we're giving heavy weapons, we're going to start bombing Russian cities officially, and we take credit.
00:09:46.000We've got obviously the risks of AI, which no one's talking about now, which Alex, you're starting to talk more and more about, which I think you should.
00:09:53.000And we've got what's happening in Taiwan.
00:09:55.000And now we're going to add to it is that we've got the world's biggest democracy, the leaders of the democratic world,
00:10:04.000The system is breaking in front of our eyes.
00:10:06.000Whether you're on the left or on the right, it doesn't matter, even if you're voting for Biden.
00:10:12.000Like, the trust in mainstream media is dying, trust in the legal system is dying, and if this continues, it doesn't matter who is president in this year, in four years' time, in eight years' time, it's only gonna get worse and it's gonna hurt both sides of the aisle.
00:10:29.000I'll try not to use the word civil wars, but we're getting... It's now become... It's no longer fear-mongering to warn of a civil war if we continue going down this path.
00:16:46.000Well, with regard to this recent development with Russia, this is something that we've been heading towards for a long time.
00:16:52.000The latest development, of course, is that the European countries, and as you said earlier, this is something that they had actually already been doing privately, but has now become public, which is that they've authorized Ukraine to start launching missiles into Russia, using NATO Western weapons to bomb Russians in Russia, on Russian soil.
00:17:14.000The latest in the past couple days is that the Biden administration has authorized Ukraine to use American weapons against Russia, although Biden has said they're limiting that only to particular cities in Russia.
00:17:26.000It really is immaterial and doesn't matter.
00:17:28.000This is a full-fledged war with Russia.
00:17:31.000And as you said, it's been a gradual escalation over the past two years, started February 2022.
00:17:39.000Well, I mean, realistically, it's been going on since 2014.
00:17:43.000And we have been giving aid to Ukraine, the government in Kiev, in their war, the secession war against the Donbass throughout that entire time, that eight-year interregnum period.
00:17:54.000Trump escalated by providing lethal aid, redeploying medium-range ballistic missiles.
00:17:59.000And over the past two years, it has been a steady escalation and a march towards war.
00:18:03.000And the question is, at what point did the decision-makers in Washington, D.C.
00:18:11.000And specifically, the accession of Ukraine to NATO is not worth World War III.
00:18:17.000And maybe another related question is, what is a reasonable sphere of influence and a reasonable self-interest or foreign policy for the government in Moscow and in Beijing to exercise?
00:18:29.000Does Russia get to influence the affairs of Belarus and Ukraine?
00:18:34.000Or are we going to deploy NATO missiles right up
00:18:38.000100, 200 kilometers from their capital.
00:18:40.000And the same is true of China, are we?
00:18:41.000It's all insane provocation, and then they speak on average to an ignorant American population.
00:18:46.000I love Americans, but on average they're very ignorant about weapons geopolitics.
00:18:49.000I mean, again, what would we do if Russia, because it's not just one country, as you said it's a bunch, what if Russia stuck missiles in Canada and in Mexico and overthrew the governments that was running them?
00:19:08.000The Monroe Doctrine says that the United States controls everything on this half of the planet.
00:19:14.000So if you want to go into two continents, like South or North America, you got to deal with us.
00:19:19.000You got to go through the United States.
00:19:21.000We want to put missiles and military bases in Ukraine, which is historically part of Russia.
00:19:28.000And even if you acknowledge their sovereignty, which is really, you know, kind of a technicality as a result of how the Soviet Union divided up the economy... Yeah, Lenin gave it up for a thousand years it was Russia.
00:19:40.000Ukraine literally gave birth to Russia, so Russia's mama is Ukraine.
00:19:44.000This is like saying, is New York City part of America?
00:20:03.000We want to put missiles that are capable of striking Moscow inside Ukraine, on their border, in their historic territory, which is something that is totally unacceptable.
00:20:13.000Putin has said over and over it's unacceptable.
00:20:15.000Now, you don't say they're going to hit them with it.
00:20:17.000They're going to hit them with the missiles.
00:20:21.000And Zelensky, as recently as February 22, was saying that he was going to pursue a nuclear arsenal, which is tied up with the Budapest Memorial.
00:20:29.000You're hinting at the fact you're going to move nukes into Ukraine, not just hit it with conventional.
00:20:34.000Well, that's right, because Ukraine, of course, had the nuclear stockpile from the Soviet Union after 1991, and one of the conditions of Ukraine transferring the nukes to Russia was that the West would guarantee Ukraine safety.
00:20:46.000So, Zelensky said, hey, if the Donbass is breaking away, then I guess we get to have nukes, don't we?
00:20:52.000You can't play around with rhetoric like that.
00:20:55.000You can't play around with rhetoric, certainly not when Ukraine is seeking accession into NATO.
00:21:00.000You can't play around with having nukes in a country that's at war with Russia.
00:21:04.000You know, this is—point being, it's extremely reckless, as you said.
00:22:08.000You know me, I don't hate Israel, but I'm starting to hate their leaders bad because they're openly trying to get a giant Arab attack to play victim so they can nuke Iran.
00:23:24.000But that's precisely what they're doing, and all you got to do to see the evidence is look at a map.
00:23:29.000Look at a map and look at where the Israeli campaign has been pushing these people around, and you're displaying it right now.
00:23:34.000They got pushed from north to south, now from east to west.
00:23:38.000They're going to be herded up, they're going to be put on ships.
00:23:40.000These people blame the United States, and to some extent I think they are correct, because we're supplying the munitions and bombs to conduct the campaign.
00:23:49.000And they're going to come and be in your school system, in your neighborhood.
00:23:52.000They're going to be your place of business, in your city.
00:25:13.000Like, they welcomed Hitler as a savior because they didn't like the communists, and then they started killing the Russians for no reason, so the Russians went completely ape.
00:25:20.000The Russians are, like, pissed at Putin.
00:26:16.000And this is because Washington has been totally uncontested and unchallenged for 30 years.
00:26:21.000Ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, and even a little bit before that, there has been this idea that America is invincible.
00:26:28.000And this is a very dangerous idea because when you know that you can die and get hurt, you approach things cautiously.
00:26:35.000And you look at your challengers, you look at the competition, and you sort of estimate their willingness to fight and the level of threat that they pose in a reasonable way.
00:26:44.000When you believe that you're invincible and you believe that you can do anything, this is what gives rise to these kinds of awful decisions like, we're going to go into Iraq and turn it into a democracy, and we're going to go to Afghanistan and turn it into a democracy, and we're going to go into Ukraine and we're going to destroy Russia and do regime change in Russia, and then we're going to beat China for dessert.
00:29:05.000Well, and a lot of people made this joke.
00:29:07.000They said, now that we're at war with Ukraine, now that we're effectively at war with Iran, you start to see all these advertisements for the military, and now these advertisements actually have white guys.
00:29:17.000When we weren't at war, all the advertisements were like a black woman and a computer, because they weren't serious.
00:29:23.000Now that they need the recruitment, oh, now it's a Call of Duty Michael Bay advertisement for the military, because now we need the good old boys
00:29:30.000to jump back in the military and die for Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and Boeing and everything.
00:29:45.000You know, what cannot go on will not go on.
00:29:48.000I mean, you just do it's like a math problem.
00:29:51.000If Russia is outproducing artillery 3 to 1, if China is outproducing ships 10 to 1, if they're having kids and we're not, if their population is 10 times bigger, something has got to give.
00:30:04.000And that's before you get into, there's so many different numbers like the debt, you could get into the inflation, stagflation situation.
00:32:08.000And so the January 6th thing, and everything that happened since, including the censorship, including, you know, that dragnet everybody got caught up in, it was about disabling and paralyzing any kind of activism.
00:32:20.000And that is the thing that they don't want people to do.
00:32:23.000They want people to, you know, watch the show, buy the shirt, back to the regularly scheduled programming.
00:32:28.000They do not want people to get involved.
00:32:30.000That's why they called the school board parents.
00:32:33.000That's why they arrested the January Sixers.
00:32:36.000And fundamentally, that is why they're going after Trump.
00:32:39.000I mean, to kind of bring it back full circle into the conviction, their big punishment against Trump is also meant to chill the entire right wing.
00:32:49.000This is as clear of an example as they can give.
00:32:52.000It's just like with Jesus, in a sense.
00:32:54.000I know people don't love that comparison.
00:32:56.000It's not to say that Trump is Jesus or God.
00:33:03.000Well, we'll write it, and they hoist him up for everybody to see in this ignominious way to say, this is what happens when you mess with us.
00:33:12.000If you mess with us, we will nail you to the cross in a brutal and painful way.
00:33:17.000We will destroy your reputation, your business, your family will come after your friends, your fortune.
00:33:25.000And the intention, it is to disable Trump, but it is also to chill the entire right wing.
00:33:31.000Oh, it's totally, it's totally a message.
00:33:32.000And I think you, you and I, I don't have to say this because you're here with me, it's true.
00:33:37.000It goes, the most censored Trump, Nick Fuentes, Alex Jones, in no particular order, but Trump on a bigger scale, because they're so scared, because they can't control him.
00:33:45.000It doesn't mean he's perfect, or you're perfect, or I am.
00:33:48.000The fact is, these are men that they don't meet with, that they don't tell to do.
00:33:52.000Believe me, they've tried with me, I'm sure they have with you.
00:33:54.000The fact that we're our own people and make our own decisions.
00:33:56.000They're scared of that, and the more they persecute us, the more successful we get.
00:34:52.000I don't think we have a society that can even produce people on that level.
00:34:56.000And you always, I love that you always talk about this, the genius of the founding fathers that came from a societal milieu.
00:35:03.000You know, that was probably the greatest collection of political thinkers in thousands of years of world history, maybe not since ancient Greece.
00:36:00.000And so did they think that by banning us from Twitter that we were going to disappear from Earth?
00:36:06.000Like, if you block the Twitter account that you and I, and more importantly, the people that follow us, do millions of people just vaporize overnight?
00:36:16.000Or do they say, huh, okay, do they shrug their shoulders and say, oh, Alex Jones got banned.
00:36:21.000Yeah, they don't get taking us away from them makes our fans who are great people want us more.
00:36:57.000And they don't, on some level, really reckon with the threat that's posed by any of the situation, whether it be Russia, whether it be, I think, the strident anti-Israel sentiment right now, people like you and I, or people like Donald Trump.
00:39:01.000It's this weird, like, self-destructive impulse or something.
00:39:05.000And it's almost like they just don't know how to turn it off.
00:39:08.000They start to do these things, and, you know, they have these kinds of tactics in place, and I think they just don't even know how to act like normal politicians.
00:39:14.000Because doubling down works when people are asleep.
00:39:20.000Right, and when you have activated a resistance.
00:39:23.000They have a real resistance, I think, in the world against Israel, I think in the United States against this regime.
00:39:28.000And as I said, they have not reckoned with the severity of that threat to their rule, or I would even say the conditions that are now going on.
00:39:36.000All right, Nick, do five more minutes.
00:39:38.000We appreciate you, and we got Eddie Bravo coming up.
00:39:41.000But before we go to break, do five more minutes.
00:42:55.000The biggest takeaway from all of this, to me, maybe more than anything that we've talked about yet, I think everybody recognizes the severity of the situation we're in.
00:43:04.000People see it's a crisis domestically inside the United States.
00:43:07.000They see the crisis with inflation, with economic growth, with the debt.
00:43:14.000I mean, you don't need me to tell you.
00:43:15.000I think everybody recognizes the country is in a state of serious decline.
00:43:20.000I think people also recognize the peril abroad.
00:43:22.000As we talked about, you can take your pick at over a dozen flashpoints for conflict in the entire world.
00:43:29.000It's anybody's guess which one is going to blow up and initiate World War III, but everyone sees that we're heading in that direction.
00:43:36.000But I would draw everybody's attention to
00:43:39.000One particular thing, which I don't think I see a lot of people talking about, or at least they're not talking about enough,
00:43:45.000And that is the fact that when Joe Biden took power after January 6th in 2021, he wielded the power.
00:43:54.000Joe Biden illegitimately seized power with these fake mail-in ballots, and it didn't take him long to go to work.
00:44:00.000And the first thing he did, unlike a lot of the things that he promised to do, it had nothing to do with his ideology, it had nothing to do with liberalism or leftism.
00:44:08.000The first thing, I would say even before he took office, is that his Department of Justice started to round up
00:44:14.000Every single person that breached the Capitol on January 6th.
00:44:19.000They appointed a thousand judges, 10,000 FBI agents.
00:44:23.000And they went around, they went to the Bank of America Records, they went to social media platforms and subpoenaed direct messages, group chats, private messages, you name it.
00:44:34.000And they went and they started the largest investigation in the history of the Department of Justice to get as many of these people in jail as possible.
00:44:41.000To date, they've arrested and charged over 1,500 people.
00:44:46.000And then, not soon after, the Department of Justice and jurisdictions across the country
00:44:51.000And plaintiffs in civil suits began working on a number of cases, criminal cases, civil cases, against the former president.
00:45:01.000And, of course, the four major indictments are the ones in Fulton County and Manhattan, the two DOJ charges, which include January 6th in the classified documents.
00:45:10.000It's the civil rape case in New York and the related defamation case.
00:45:14.000In a word, Joe Biden used his power to punish his political enemies.
00:45:20.000The Democrats, the left, I mean, he's clearly not in power, but the regime, they forked over back the power and they began to use it to target their political opponents.
00:45:31.000To me, this is a striking contrast with Donald Trump, who took office in 2016 and infamously declined to prosecute Hillary Clinton.
00:45:40.000He said he would appoint a special counsel.
00:45:42.000He said he was going to look into Hillary Clinton and put her in jail.
00:45:49.000Dropped the case against Clinton, dropped the case against Obama, and he thought that he could go to work on taxes and just sort of ignore the political condition under which he was elected.
00:45:58.000And so I would say the main thing that Republicans need to rethink about their approach in 2024
00:46:21.000And the one thing that Trump can do, the one thing that will have, I think, an impact that will stretch far beyond his one or two terms in office is to fire as many federal employees as possible.
00:46:34.000And then, once empowered, patriots need to use that influence to fix the elections so that they are free and fair, and free people on social media so that we can ensure that we have a platform in the future to spread our message.
00:46:49.000I think that's the most impactful political thing that Trump can do.
00:46:52.000As far as I'm concerned, it's the only thing that matters.
00:46:55.000We see what happens when we don't take politics seriously.
00:46:58.000Trump went in, changed a lot of things.
00:47:01.000Joe Biden came back, changed him right back.
00:47:03.000The only thing that we can do is to disable the opposition.