America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Analyzing the Trump Conviction with Alex Jones

00:00:00.000 Yesterday, I think this is the culmination of 10 years of this.

00:00:03.000 I think that's maybe the biggest takeaway for guys like yourself, Alex, and certainly for people like me.

00:00:09.000 This is the culmination of a very long period of time and basically a systematic witch hunt against the president.

00:00:17.000 Every manner, every way, shape, and form that they can come after him, they've done it now.

00:00:23.000 And I believe it started with the FISA warrant, which was issued in June 2016, which allowed the Obama administration to spy on Trump Tower and to spy on the campaign.

00:00:32.000 Why was Obama never prosecuted for that?

00:00:36.000 Well, it's a great question.

00:00:37.000 There's no prosecution for Obama, there's no prosecution for Hillary Clinton and all the deleted emails, no prosecution for Hunter Biden and the laptop, and no prosecution for Joe Biden, who's connected to that.

00:00:49.000 And that's really the thing is, and I talked to this, I talked to Mario about this in the space the other day.

00:00:56.000 We have all these lawyers getting in on this, and they're talking about the tedium and minutiae about this particular case.

00:01:02.000 I think a lot of that is a distraction.

00:01:04.000 I think to get too into the weeds on these particular cases, it's almost like, what are we even really talking about?

00:01:10.000 Yeah, we know it's all fake crap, so my question is, Nick, because you're a smart guy, I respect you, very articulate.

00:01:16.000 I don't agree with everything, but I think I agree you're smart. 0.97

00:01:20.000 What is the deep state going to do? 0.98

00:01:21.000 Because they're programming white supremacists are going to kill everybody, imminent terror attacks. 0.99

00:01:25.000 That's not hard to go. 0.99

00:01:26.000 The signal is they're about to stage something or provocateur something.

00:01:29.000 That's all my red lights.

00:01:31.000 When I asked Mario that too and Nick, my red lights are like danger, Will Robinson.

00:01:35.000 I mean, that's all I'm thinking about.

00:01:38.000 You're absolutely right.

00:01:39.000 It's going to be false flag city, I think, for the rest of the year.

00:01:41.000 And we saw this in 2020.

00:01:43.000 In 2020, I think everybody knows Trump was sailing towards an easy reelection.

00:01:47.000 Economy was great.

00:01:48.000 Everything was going well.

00:01:49.000 There had been no new wars.

00:01:51.000 The border was being secured.

00:01:53.000 And then we got COVID.

00:01:54.000 We got the biggest pandemic ever, and the economic shutdown, and the BLM, and we got the election fraud. 0.67

00:02:01.000 And I think it's going to be repeated out in 2024.

00:02:03.000 I think you see a mass awakening.

00:02:06.000 Free speech is happening on Twitter and Rumble, and I think you're absolutely right.

00:02:10.000 This is the playbook every single time.

00:02:12.000 It's always some kind of black swan event.

00:02:15.000 It's gonna be crisis actors. 0.51

00:02:16.000 It's gonna be some kind of Patsy, a Christian nationalist, a white nationalist. 0.99

00:02:21.000 Oh no, they got a messed up schizophrenic ready to go gun down a bunch of blacks in a church right now. 0.99

00:02:26.000 The FBI's got him in a hotel room right now. 0.99

00:02:30.000 That's how it plays out every time.

00:02:31.000 And few people even remember, I mean, there's so many that have been memory hauled.

00:02:35.000 I mean, whatever happened to, do you remember, I believe it was the eve of a very important campaign.

00:02:39.000 There was some kind of RV that was detonated in Nashville.

00:02:43.000 Yeah.

00:02:43.000 Turned out to be some, I mean, this is just like one, there are dozens of examples like this of actual false flags that were followed through with, some that were aborted.

00:02:53.000 Or they were botched and memory hold we never heard about them again.

00:02:57.000 So I think people need to be on high alert and this is why it's important for your audience to know this and for people on spaces.

00:03:03.000 Be extremely careful about what you do and say between now and the election because the feds are not messing around.

00:03:10.000 Deep State is not messing around.

00:03:12.000 They take this stuff very seriously.

00:03:14.000 They are looking for a patsy to bring the whole Deep State down on to blame for, you know, whatever's coming next.

00:03:20.000 So, it's very important.

00:03:21.000 All these people are talking, and I saw you said this today on Twitter, Alex, or rather on X. You said it's very important to direct all of our energy

00:03:30.000 And to targeted, precise political action.

00:03:33.000 Not violence, not illegal activities, but you want to do something, go out there and engage in politics in a legal, legitimate way. 0.65

00:03:41.000 And it's like you said earlier, they are Hitler in the bunker thinking that they can win.

00:03:46.000 It's hubris, it's arrogance, and the one thing that they can't tolerate

00:03:50.000 Is the kind of thing that we've seen, which is somebody like Trump, methodically and with perseverance, engaging in the system, winning the hearts and minds, and working through the process.

00:03:59.000 We're talking about how this is threatening the democracy, it's breaking the system, it's breaking trust in the system.

00:04:05.000 But I want to get you to try to, we did it earlier and I'm not sure if you were listening, but try to put your optimistic hat on.

00:04:11.000 You know, looking at it from pink colored glasses.

00:04:13.000 Because we need that, they want us to be pure negative.

00:04:16.000 Exactly.

00:04:18.000 What path could we see over the next few months where things improve from this point onwards?

00:04:23.000 You don't have to agree with that view, but I want an optimistic view moving forward.

00:04:29.000 My optimistic view is that Donald Trump, just as he has in the past 24 hours, he raised $36 million.

00:04:35.000 I think there was one poll, which he talked about in the press conference this morning, that showed that he's up.

00:04:41.000 6% in the polls.

00:04:42.000 Huge.

00:04:43.000 After the conviction he's up 6%.

00:04:45.000 And so I think the optimistic track is that you start to see the country move past this Joe Biden, COVID, Ukraine stuff.

00:04:53.000 It seems that all of these

00:04:56.000 All of these false narratives that we have been battered over the head with for the past four years, they're all being dispelled largely because of free speech, largely because a spotlight is being shown on all this.

00:05:06.000 And I think so, the optimistic track is that things keep going in the direction that they have been actually for the past couple of years.

00:05:11.000 A lot of people don't realize this.

00:05:13.000 We're in a better spot now than maybe we've ever have been.

00:05:16.000 And I think that's largely due to, and I think you mentioned this earlier, it's people coming together in the global village, it's people coming together on the

00:05:26.000 Social platforms and being able to talk about these things openly.

00:05:30.000 Censorship peaked in 2021 and it has started to recede.

00:05:34.000 That's something that we never thought was possible.

00:05:37.000 I remember doing my show in 2019 and thinking they were eventually going to go for the ISPs and they were going to make it so we couldn't even have websites.

00:05:44.000 You know, forget about a Twitter account.

00:05:46.000 I was thinking we were going to not be able to have websites or email or anything like that.

00:05:50.000 So things actually have been moving in a better direction.

00:05:54.000 The important thing is that people stay engaged and they keep pushing.

00:05:57.000 The worst thing, and Alex, you're so right about this, this is what they want.

00:06:01.000 They want for us to despair.

00:06:03.000 They want for us to engage in, you know, what people call blackmailing.

00:06:06.000 They want us to be pessimistic.

00:06:08.000 Because it's when people despair, that's when people give up.

00:06:12.000 And when people take their foot off the gas, or when people start to consider extreme forms of action, or maybe illegitimate forms of action, those are the things that play into their hands.

00:06:23.000 So, to me,

00:06:24.000 I'm going to read out one thing while you're speaking, just looking at the polls.

00:06:28.000 Less than an hour ago, Axios put out the following.

00:06:30.000 I'm going to read it out for you, Nick.

00:06:32.000 Get your thoughts on it, and Alex, your thoughts on it as well.

00:06:34.000 Trump's historic felony conviction makes half of Republicans even more likely to vote for him, according to a poll and the verdict's immediate aftermath.

00:06:42.000 Yeah, and that's even their spin.

00:06:43.000 Look, my phone never blew up like it did yesterday, and my parents have a lot of liberal friends, so do I. They're like, we're done, we're going for Trump.

00:06:55.000 Nick, sorry, go ahead and answer his question.

00:06:58.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:06:59.000 You're absolutely right.

00:07:00.000 I mean, and this is the hubris of the regime.

00:07:03.000 They always overplay their hand.

00:07:05.000 You know, after Donald Trump left office, I think that, and you know, whatever you think about the 2020 election, I think it was stolen.

00:07:12.000 He left office and I think there was a real crisis where a lot of people are questioning if there was a future for Trump because his first term had been so sabotaged.

00:07:20.000 The way he went out was so ignominious and such a disaster and it was really a rigged election and stolen.

00:07:26.000 I think a lot of people question

00:07:28.000 Is it over?

00:07:29.000 Are we going to have to... Well, that's the thing.

00:07:31.000 They want the comeback.

00:07:32.000 They see it.

00:07:32.000 And look, here's the deal.

00:07:34.000 Real power is sitting back knowing human nature and wanting to help people and letting them make decisions and then guiding them.

00:07:40.000 The globalists are going against the stream at every level, and people now are figuring that out.

00:07:45.000 It's game over.

00:07:46.000 They can use their trillions of dollars to have a bunch of mercenaries, like you were saying, Nick.

00:07:51.000 But it doesn't work at the end of the day, because people, once they get that are being controlled, it's game over.

00:07:56.000 I mean, don't you think?

00:07:57.000 Talk about optimism. 0.97

00:07:58.000 I'm super optimistic, except they want World War III with Russia. 0.59

00:08:02.000 Nick, can you comment on that? 0.87

00:08:03.000 I mean, Nick Fuentes or Nick Schwartzworth, I mean, literally, they're like, we're giving heavy weapons, we're going to start bombing Russian cities officially, and we take credit. 0.99

00:08:11.000 They're like, yeah, Russia, bitch, let's go. 1.00

00:08:13.000 I mean, this is fucking crazy. 1.00

00:08:17.000 The whole situation's insane. 0.99

00:08:19.000 The situation domestically, the situation internationally.

00:08:23.000 And it's important to kind of keep an eye on the ball.

00:08:25.000 I know that you were talking about this earlier.

00:08:27.000 In some ways, this whole election thing and even this particular case, it does take our eyes away from

00:08:34.000 We're good to go.

00:08:58.000 You know, all eyes are now on Rafa and this recent massacre that was committed this past weekend.

00:09:03.000 So, you know, it is very important.

00:09:05.000 Yes, we have to be optimistic.

00:09:07.000 Yes, I think we shouldn't give in to despair.

00:09:09.000 But it also doesn't mean that we underestimate the severity of the crisis that we're in.

00:09:13.000 I agree.

00:09:14.000 Admitting the severity is what makes us rise in the challenge to stop it.

00:09:18.000 In closing, you guys got to go.

00:09:19.000 I wish you'd be here for 10 hours.

00:09:20.000 I'm doing a special show tomorrow, by the way, if you guys want to come back.

00:09:23.000 Eddie Bravo is coming up, too.

00:09:24.000 Stay there.

00:09:24.000 Nick Fuentes, you're going to have the floor when we come back.

00:09:26.000 I moved some guests.

00:09:27.000 You're here.

00:09:27.000 We appreciate it.

00:09:29.000 But Nick Sortor, Mario Nafal, closing comments, and I hope to have you back soon in the studio.

00:09:33.000 Yeah, look, my comments are very simple and very straight to the point.

00:09:37.000 I'm not sure what's going to happen next.

00:09:39.000 We do have a very serious risk of a world war between the West and Russia.

00:09:45.000 It's very serious.

00:09:46.000 We've got obviously the risks of AI, which no one's talking about now, which Alex, you're starting to talk more and more about, which I think you should.

00:09:53.000 And we've got what's happening in Taiwan.

00:09:55.000 And now we're going to add to it is that we've got the world's biggest democracy, the leaders of the democratic world,

00:10:04.000 The system is breaking in front of our eyes.

00:10:06.000 Whether you're on the left or on the right, it doesn't matter, even if you're voting for Biden.

00:10:10.000 You gotta agree it's breaking.

00:10:11.000 Exactly.

00:10:12.000 Like, the trust in mainstream media is dying, trust in the legal system is dying, and if this continues, it doesn't matter who is president in this year, in four years' time, in eight years' time, it's only gonna get worse and it's gonna hurt both sides of the aisle.

00:10:26.000 So this needs to stop. 0.95

00:10:27.000 It's sectarian war.

00:10:29.000 I'll try not to use the word civil wars, but we're getting... It's now become... It's no longer fear-mongering to warn of a civil war if we continue going down this path.

00:10:39.000 All right.

00:10:40.000 We only got 20 seconds left, Mario.

00:10:42.000 Mario's done.

00:10:43.000 Nick?

00:10:44.000 Yeah, I mean, clearly, I don't think we would be seeing this backfiring as bad as it is for the Democrats if we were back in 2020.

00:10:51.000 Nick Fuentes made a fantastic point on that.

00:10:54.000 The free dissemination of information now has really, genuinely changed the world.

00:10:59.000 I mean, because I got banned off of Facebook back in 2020.

00:11:02.000 No, it's Elon Musk.

00:11:05.000 People not giving Elon a love are... 1.00

00:11:08.000 Fuck them! 1.00

00:11:08.000 Elon Musk! 1.00

00:11:09.000 Elon Musk!

00:11:10.000 Elon Musk!

00:11:11.000 Alright, Nick Fuentes coming back.

00:11:12.000 You guys gotta go.

00:11:13.000 Incredible.

00:11:14.000 Stay with us, folks.

00:11:15.000 We'll be right back with Nick Fuentes.

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00:11:31.000 So here's where we talked about the last time that we were on the show together. 0.97

00:14:18.000 The boomer generation and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. 1.00

00:14:58.000 Not interested? 1.00

00:14:58.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:14:59.000 I'm sorry, Brittany and Betsy, but I just can't do it. 1.00

00:15:02.000 You're an e-girl, you know the rule. 1.00

00:15:04.000 No e-girls. 1.00

00:15:05.000 Who's got the clip? 1.00

00:15:07.000 No e-girls. 1.00

00:15:08.000 Never! 1.00

00:15:08.000 Hashtag never e-girls. 1.00

00:15:11.000 Not even once.

00:15:12.000 Guy, I've never heard of him.

00:15:34.000 From the front lines of the Information War, it's Alex Jones.

00:15:40.000 So, if people ask what my political alignment is, it's life. 0.56

00:15:44.000 Life for babies, life for adults, life for old people.

00:15:47.000 Not having World War III, having capitalism, having prosperity, having freedom. 0.57

00:15:50.000 I'm a big tit guy.

00:15:51.000 I love everybody.

00:15:52.000 I'm a big teddy bear.

00:15:54.000 Let's try to start World War III.

00:15:56.000 And I don't want to keep harping on this because I'm kind of a history buff on war, and I know the threat continuation ladder.

00:16:05.000 When you start publicly saying elbows Christmas, we've been firing at you. 0.80

00:16:11.000 Into Russia. 0.98

00:16:12.000 We did that and you bet we're doing it and we're about to do it 100 times worse. 1.00

00:16:17.000 That goes to World War three. 0.76

00:16:18.000 It's guaranteed.

00:16:19.000 It's not like, Oh, there's a chance this is the most psychotic craziness. 0.79

00:16:23.000 The average person is watching television and movies having no idea like Russia's a million miles away.

00:16:29.000 No folks, it's 8000 miles away from where I sit.

00:16:32.000 So Nick,

00:16:33.000 You've been speaking about this, talking about this, and it ties into Trump.

00:16:37.000 It ties into the fake conviction, where this is all going.

00:16:40.000 I'm just going to give you the floor here, because you're an interesting guy, to give us your view on everything.

00:16:45.000 Absolutely.

00:16:46.000 Well, with regard to this recent development with Russia, this is something that we've been heading towards for a long time.

00:16:52.000 The latest development, of course, is that the European countries, and as you said earlier, this is something that they had actually already been doing privately, but has now become public, which is that they've authorized Ukraine to start launching missiles into Russia, using NATO Western weapons to bomb Russians in Russia, on Russian soil.

00:17:12.000 And now,

00:17:14.000 The latest in the past couple days is that the Biden administration has authorized Ukraine to use American weapons against Russia, although Biden has said they're limiting that only to particular cities in Russia.

00:17:26.000 It really is immaterial and doesn't matter.

00:17:28.000 This is a full-fledged war with Russia. 0.50

00:17:31.000 And as you said, it's been a gradual escalation over the past two years, started February 2022. 0.63

00:17:38.000 We really entered the picture.

00:17:39.000 Well, I mean, realistically, it's been going on since 2014.

00:17:43.000 And we have been giving aid to Ukraine, the government in Kiev, in their war, the secession war against the Donbass throughout that entire time, that eight-year interregnum period.

00:17:54.000 Trump escalated by providing lethal aid, redeploying medium-range ballistic missiles.

00:17:59.000 And over the past two years, it has been a steady escalation and a march towards war.

00:18:03.000 And the question is, at what point did the decision-makers in Washington, D.C.

00:18:08.000 say that Ukraine is not worth

00:18:10.000 World War III.

00:18:11.000 And specifically, the accession of Ukraine to NATO is not worth World War III.

00:18:17.000 And maybe another related question is, what is a reasonable sphere of influence and a reasonable self-interest or foreign policy for the government in Moscow and in Beijing to exercise?

00:18:29.000 Does Russia get to influence the affairs of Belarus and Ukraine?

00:18:34.000 Or are we going to deploy NATO missiles right up

00:18:38.000 100, 200 kilometers from their capital.

00:18:40.000 And the same is true of China, are we? 0.98

00:18:41.000 It's all insane provocation, and then they speak on average to an ignorant American population. 0.99

00:18:46.000 I love Americans, but on average they're very ignorant about weapons geopolitics. 0.94

00:18:49.000 I mean, again, what would we do if Russia, because it's not just one country, as you said it's a bunch, what if Russia stuck missiles in Canada and in Mexico and overthrew the governments that was running them? 0.97

00:19:00.000 I mean, we would go completely ape! 0.94

00:19:03.000 That's precisely correct.

00:19:05.000 And, you know, we've had this for 200 years.

00:19:07.000 It's called the Monroe Doctrine.

00:19:08.000 The Monroe Doctrine says that the United States controls everything on this half of the planet. 0.72

00:19:14.000 So if you want to go into two continents, like South or North America, you got to deal with us. 0.87

00:19:19.000 You got to go through the United States. 0.74

00:19:21.000 We want to put missiles and military bases in Ukraine, which is historically part of Russia. 0.61

00:19:28.000 And even if you acknowledge their sovereignty, which is really, you know, kind of a technicality as a result of how the Soviet Union divided up the economy... Yeah, Lenin gave it up for a thousand years it was Russia. 0.86

00:19:40.000 Ukraine literally gave birth to Russia, so Russia's mama is Ukraine.

00:19:44.000 This is like saying, is New York City part of America? 0.65

00:19:47.000 That's only 250 years old.

00:19:48.000 This is, like you said, literally the motherland.

00:19:53.000 Exactly, and it's not like we're saying we want Ukraine to be a democracy.

00:19:58.000 It was.

00:19:58.000 It's not like we're saying we want Ukraine to have freedom.

00:20:01.000 It had a relative degree of freedom.

00:20:03.000 We want to put missiles that are capable of striking Moscow inside Ukraine, on their border, in their historic territory, which is something that is totally unacceptable.

00:20:13.000 Putin has said over and over it's unacceptable.

00:20:15.000 Now, you don't say they're going to hit them with it.

00:20:17.000 They're going to hit them with the missiles. 0.50

00:20:20.000 That's right.

00:20:21.000 And Zelensky, as recently as February 22, was saying that he was going to pursue a nuclear arsenal, which is tied up with the Budapest Memorial.

00:20:29.000 That's right.

00:20:29.000 You're hinting at the fact you're going to move nukes into Ukraine, not just hit it with conventional.

00:20:34.000 Well, that's right, because Ukraine, of course, had the nuclear stockpile from the Soviet Union after 1991, and one of the conditions of Ukraine transferring the nukes to Russia was that the West would guarantee Ukraine safety.

00:20:46.000 So, Zelensky said, hey, if the Donbass is breaking away, then I guess we get to have nukes, don't we?

00:20:52.000 You can't play around with rhetoric like that.

00:20:55.000 You can't play around with rhetoric, certainly not when Ukraine is seeking accession into NATO.

00:21:00.000 You can't play around with having nukes in a country that's at war with Russia.

00:21:04.000 You know, this is—point being, it's extremely reckless, as you said.

00:21:08.000 It's extremely provocative.

00:21:10.000 It's something that's totally outrageous, I think, to any reasonable or sensible person.

00:21:15.000 And I think the larger point is that this is not the only theater of conflict.

00:21:20.000 As you said earlier, because like, you know, like myself, you're into geopolitics.

00:21:24.000 You see the big picture.

00:21:26.000 You've got North Korea launching missiles at Japan.

00:21:29.000 You've got Chinese fighter jets in Taiwanese airspace.

00:21:32.000 You've got Venezuela threatening to take the Essequibo region from Guyana, where they recently discovered energy resources.

00:21:40.000 You've got basically a new Cold War in Latin America.

00:21:43.000 You've got a broader conflagration in the Middle East that involves no fewer than five or six countries.

00:21:49.000 And you have a civil war in West Africa between France and Russia.

00:21:54.000 And, you know, one other one, two others I'm not thinking of, you've got Kosovo and Serbia and Azerbaijan and Armenia. 0.76

00:22:00.000 And you've got Israel literally bombing refugee camps on purpose trying to make the Arab world attack them so they can be the victim. 0.67

00:22:07.000 I think that's clear. 0.80

00:22:08.000 You know me, I don't hate Israel, but I'm starting to hate their leaders bad because they're openly trying to get a giant Arab attack to play victim so they can nuke Iran. 0.89

00:22:16.000 This is biblical insanity. 0.89

00:22:20.000 Absolutely. 0.71

00:22:21.000 And we just saw that in Rafah the past week.

00:22:24.000 As you said, in West Rafah, they bombed the refugee camp.

00:22:27.000 They bombed these tents.

00:22:28.000 Absolutely abominable.

00:22:29.000 You don't do that by accident. 1.00

00:22:30.000 You bomb the main refugee camp. 1.00

00:22:32.000 You make a move eight times, and now they're all in a refugee camp. 1.00

00:22:34.000 Oh, we missed with our missiles. 1.00

00:22:36.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:22:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:22:38.000 I don't think anybody's buying this one anymore. 1.00

00:22:41.000 They've been doing that for all this time.

00:22:42.000 That's the final bombing to move them onto the ships.

00:22:46.000 It's like they just herd them towards the ship.

00:22:47.000 Bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom.

00:22:50.000 Well, yeah, it's not hard to see what they're doing at all. 0.91

00:22:53.000 I mean, they go in the north, push them south.

00:22:55.000 Then they move into the south, they push them west.

00:22:57.000 They push them towards where?

00:22:58.000 The Mediterranean Sea, where they got nowhere to go.

00:23:01.000 And that's exactly right. 0.99

00:23:02.000 Stage two is they're going to load them up onto ships, and they're going to be brought here to America.

00:23:06.000 There were two Israeli politicians for the Wall Street Journal. 1.00

00:23:09.000 They said, well, we don't want the Palestinians, but Americans should take them in. 1.00

00:23:13.000 Americans and Europeans better be taking the Palestinian refugees. 1.00

00:23:17.000 Well, if these people are such winners, you know, why don't you want them living next to your country? 1.00

00:23:22.000 They gotta come live over here?

00:23:24.000 But that's precisely what they're doing, and all you got to do to see the evidence is look at a map. 0.62

00:23:29.000 Look at a map and look at where the Israeli campaign has been pushing these people around, and you're displaying it right now. 0.69

00:23:34.000 They got pushed from north to south, now from east to west.

00:23:38.000 They're going to be herded up, they're going to be put on ships. 0.73

00:23:40.000 These people blame the United States, and to some extent I think they are correct, because we're supplying the munitions and bombs to conduct the campaign. 0.59

00:23:49.000 And they're going to come and be in your school system, in your neighborhood. 0.98

00:23:52.000 They're going to be your place of business, in your city.

00:23:54.000 We don't want these people.

00:23:55.000 We don't need these people. 1.00

00:23:57.000 Israel is literally shitting on us with this. 1.00

00:24:02.000 Quite literally dumping their problems, a steaming pile of their problems into our country. 1.00

00:24:09.000 And we're paying for it.

00:24:10.000 We're giving them the support to do it.

00:24:12.000 And as you said, you don't hate anybody.

00:24:15.000 I don't hate anybody.

00:24:16.000 We love everybody.

00:24:17.000 It is a big tent movement.

00:24:18.000 We want nationalism.

00:24:20.000 But this is an abuse.

00:24:21.000 This is an abuse of our country.

00:24:23.000 I don't think any reasonable person could say that this is in America's interest or America first. 0.97

00:24:28.000 It's totally contradictory and hypocritical.

00:24:31.000 But this is just one theater.

00:24:33.000 It's a very significant one, but one theater and now a global conflict.

00:24:37.000 And I think we talked about this last time.

00:24:39.000 This is setting the stage for the same kind of global intercontinental conflict.

00:24:44.000 That's where I was going next.

00:24:44.000 Let me interrupt for a minute because you're going there.

00:24:46.000 So let me go back to Russia for a minute.

00:24:48.000 Okay.

00:24:48.000 The Russians in World War II lost 26 million people.

00:24:51.000 The Germans lost 24 million.

00:24:53.000 95% of the war was between them.

00:24:55.000 My grandfathers were both in it. 0.73

00:24:56.000 I'm not saying America didn't lose 600,000.

00:24:58.000 The Brits and all that was terrible, but compared to it, it was like, it was a paper cut.

00:25:02.000 Looking at this, bombing Russians will not make them bow down and give up. 0.81

00:25:09.000 They will make them even more aggressive. 0.88

00:25:11.000 It's guaranteed. 0.89

00:25:13.000 Like, they welcomed Hitler as a savior because they didn't like the communists, and then they started killing the Russians for no reason, so the Russians went completely ape. 0.75

00:25:20.000 The Russians are, like, pissed at Putin. 0.64

00:25:22.000 He's not nuking right now. 0.96

00:25:24.000 So they're ready for full war and the West is going, let's bomb them. 0.56

00:25:28.000 That'll make them give up. 1.00

00:25:29.000 They know they're not stupid. 0.99

00:25:30.000 Stoltenberg's not dumb. 0.99

00:25:31.000 So why would they want a full nuclear war with Russia? 0.99

00:25:34.000 This is insane.

00:25:36.000 Well, that's that classic hubris.

00:25:38.000 The West.

00:25:40.000 They don't know how to do anything other than double down.

00:25:43.000 These leaders in Washington, whenever there's a problem, whenever anybody stands up to the West, it's always double down.

00:25:48.000 And they're a bunch of lawyers, not even military leaders now.

00:25:50.000 They're all sitting in rooms acting tough. 0.99

00:25:51.000 Well, let's just bomb the Russians. 1.00

00:25:53.000 Yeah, that'll show them. 0.99

00:25:54.000 Oh yeah, that'll really show the Russians, folks.

00:25:57.000 90% of the Brits were anti-war

00:26:00.000 It is.

00:26:00.000 It's that classic hubris.

00:26:16.000 And this is because Washington has been totally uncontested and unchallenged for 30 years.

00:26:21.000 Ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, and even a little bit before that, there has been this idea that America is invincible.

00:26:28.000 And this is a very dangerous idea because when you know that you can die and get hurt, you approach things cautiously.

00:26:35.000 And you look at your challengers, you look at the competition, and you sort of estimate their willingness to fight and the level of threat that they pose in a reasonable way.

00:26:44.000 When you believe that you're invincible and you believe that you can do anything, this is what gives rise to these kinds of awful decisions like, we're going to go into Iraq and turn it into a democracy, and we're going to go to Afghanistan and turn it into a democracy, and we're going to go into Ukraine and we're going to destroy Russia and do regime change in Russia, and then we're going to beat China for dessert.

00:27:04.000 It's like,

00:27:04.000 You know, it's not 1991 anymore.

00:27:07.000 China's back.

00:27:08.000 Russia's back.

00:27:09.000 It's a multipolar world. 0.98

00:27:10.000 And they've got giant armies and nuclear weapons and we'll go to war. 1.00

00:27:14.000 I mean, my God, Korea, the Chai Koms didn't have nukes then and they were kicking our ass. 1.00

00:27:20.000 I mean, we had to threaten to use nukes for them to back off. 1.00

00:27:23.000 This is crazy.

00:27:26.000 It's totally insane.

00:27:27.000 And they have industry.

00:27:28.000 They build things.

00:27:29.000 The Russian economy is going to grow 3% this year.

00:27:33.000 The economy of Germany is going to contract.

00:27:36.000 Germany is like one of the only countries in the West that makes things.

00:27:40.000 Their industry has been destroyed because the pipelines were taken down and they have no more cheap energy, no more cheap natural gas.

00:27:46.000 Russia makes things.

00:27:48.000 China makes things.

00:27:49.000 They make ships. 0.97

00:27:50.000 They make missiles.

00:27:51.000 They make a military.

00:27:53.000 The United States is still living in this World War II LARP.

00:27:56.000 Well, that's right. 0.57

00:27:57.000 Russia is outproducing all NATO countries 3 to 1 with artillery shells.

00:28:03.000 That shows it's a joke, really.

00:28:07.000 We're not making missiles.

00:28:08.000 We're not making ships.

00:28:09.000 We're not even making kids. 1.00

00:28:11.000 And the kids we are making are all gay. 0.99

00:28:13.000 I mean, not to be insulting. 0.99

00:28:15.000 No, it's true.

00:28:15.000 They just cut the submarine order in half.

00:28:18.000 China just tripled their submarine order. 0.96

00:28:22.000 Why would an empire weaken its own people when it wants to take on the Chaikoms and the Russians? 0.67

00:28:36.000 There is, like, right now, a big push against DEI.

00:28:39.000 I don't know if you've seen that lately.

00:28:40.000 I did, yeah.

00:28:41.000 A lot of the elites, they're coming out against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

00:28:44.000 I think it's because there is kind of this recognition, although it is begrudging and, I think, reluctant.

00:28:49.000 I think there is this recognition that DEI has gone so far, it's now actually impacting their ability to go to war with Russia.

00:28:56.000 Well, the Pentagon admits it. 0.95

00:28:57.000 They go, okay, white men, we said you were evil, gave you poison shots, you left. 1.00

00:29:01.000 For whatever reason, we need the white men to come back and kill the Russians. 1.00

00:29:05.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:29:05.000 Well, and a lot of people made this joke. 1.00

00:29:07.000 They said, now that we're at war with Ukraine, now that we're effectively at war with Iran, you start to see all these advertisements for the military, and now these advertisements actually have white guys.

00:29:17.000 When we weren't at war, all the advertisements were like a black woman and a computer, because they weren't serious. 0.76

00:29:23.000 Now that they need the recruitment, oh, now it's a Call of Duty Michael Bay advertisement for the military, because now we need the good old boys 0.53

00:29:30.000 to jump back in the military and die for Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and Boeing and everything.

00:29:36.000 So it's very typical.

00:29:37.000 It's very classic.

00:29:38.000 And it's like you said a moment ago, this is the system breaking up.

00:29:42.000 It is breaking up.

00:29:44.000 It is failing.

00:29:45.000 You know, what cannot go on will not go on.

00:29:48.000 I mean, you just do it's like a math problem.

00:29:51.000 If Russia is outproducing artillery 3 to 1, if China is outproducing ships 10 to 1, if they're having kids and we're not, if their population is 10 times bigger, something has got to give.

00:30:04.000 And that's before you get into, there's so many different numbers like the debt, you could get into the inflation, stagflation situation.

00:30:11.000 Eventually this thing will not go on.

00:30:13.000 And that is good news, but, and it's sort of like we talked about with Mario a moment ago, the threat is absolutely enormous.

00:30:21.000 It cannot be overstated, the peril that we're in.

00:30:24.000 At the same time, there is a huge opportunity for us to turn things around.

00:30:28.000 So Zimbardo asked you the question, exactly, so real optimism

00:30:33.000 Political correctness is dying.

00:30:34.000 People know they're in danger.

00:30:35.000 Women get they're in danger. 1.00

00:30:37.000 People have that danger gene. 0.97

00:30:39.000 They're like, whoa, okay, this is not good.

00:30:41.000 How do we get the establishment to stand down and realize they've lost?

00:30:45.000 They can still keep all their stolen money.

00:30:47.000 They can creep around.

00:30:48.000 I want to put them on an island like Napoleon.

00:30:50.000 How do we get them to realize they've already lost without blowing the planet up?

00:30:54.000 Because that's where they're going.

00:30:57.000 Well, I think we need to keep pushing through 2024.

00:31:00.000 And I think we need people really to get engaged in politics.

00:31:03.000 That is the number one thing that they fear.

00:31:05.000 They don't like when people talk.

00:31:08.000 They like it a lot less when people get organized.

00:31:11.000 I think that's a huge reason why they came after all the January Sixers.

00:31:14.000 Because, I mean, what was... It was a pure outlawing of conservative populist politics.

00:31:21.000 Exactly.

00:31:21.000 It was an attempt to intimidate everybody.

00:31:25.000 Well, because Stop the Steal and everything that was going on back then was grassroots organization.

00:31:31.000 And, you know, of course we disavow the law-breaking and violence and vandalism and things like that.

00:31:35.000 But that was 95% provocateur!

00:31:40.000 Precisely.

00:31:40.000 And that was a very, very tiny number of, it was half a million people that were there in Washington, D.C.

00:31:47.000 They were using that as a pretext, basically, to go after all conservative organizers and influencers, anybody that was pro-Trump.

00:31:55.000 Because it wasn't the GOP that was trying to prevent the steal.

00:31:58.000 The GOP wanted the steal to go on.

00:32:00.000 They effectively made a deal.

00:32:02.000 I mean, you know, not to get too into the weeds on that.

00:32:04.000 No, they did.

00:32:04.000 The Republican establishment stabbed Trump in the back.

00:32:07.000 A hundred percent.

00:32:08.000 And so the January 6th thing, and everything that happened since, including the censorship, including, you know, that dragnet everybody got caught up in, it was about disabling and paralyzing any kind of activism.

00:32:20.000 And that is the thing that they don't want people to do.

00:32:23.000 They want people to, you know, watch the show, buy the shirt, back to the regularly scheduled programming.

00:32:28.000 They do not want people to get involved.

00:32:30.000 That's why they called the school board parents.

00:32:32.000 Terrorists. 0.90

00:32:33.000 That's why they arrested the January Sixers.

00:32:36.000 And fundamentally, that is why they're going after Trump.

00:32:39.000 I mean, to kind of bring it back full circle into the conviction, their big punishment against Trump is also meant to chill the entire right wing.

00:32:49.000 This is as clear of an example as they can give.

00:32:52.000 It's just like with Jesus, in a sense.

00:32:54.000 I know people don't love that comparison.

00:32:56.000 It's not to say that Trump is Jesus or God.

00:32:58.000 But it is a comparison.

00:32:59.000 The persecution, people see it.

00:33:01.000 It's classic.

00:33:03.000 Well, we'll write it, and they hoist him up for everybody to see in this ignominious way to say, this is what happens when you mess with us.

00:33:12.000 If you mess with us, we will nail you to the cross in a brutal and painful way.

00:33:17.000 We will destroy your reputation, your business, your family will come after your friends, your fortune. 1.00

00:33:23.000 We will destroy you. 0.96

00:33:25.000 And the intention, it is to disable Trump, but it is also to chill the entire right wing. 0.98

00:33:31.000 Oh, it's totally, it's totally a message.

00:33:32.000 And I think you, you and I, I don't have to say this because you're here with me, it's true.

00:33:37.000 It goes, the most censored Trump, Nick Fuentes, Alex Jones, in no particular order, but Trump on a bigger scale, because they're so scared, because they can't control him.

00:33:45.000 It doesn't mean he's perfect, or you're perfect, or I am.

00:33:48.000 The fact is, these are men that they don't meet with, that they don't tell to do.

00:33:52.000 Believe me, they've tried with me, I'm sure they have with you.

00:33:54.000 The fact that we're our own people and make our own decisions.

00:33:56.000 They're scared of that, and the more they persecute us, the more successful we get.

00:34:01.000 You're an example.

00:34:02.000 I'm an example.

00:34:03.000 And now they want to shut down in fours the next month or two, and they think that is going to that.

00:34:07.000 I mean, I love the crew will be.

00:34:09.000 I got a new probably have to work under somebody else.

00:34:11.000 Try to bring him back.

00:34:12.000 It'll be.

00:34:13.000 It'll be a lot of extra work, but it only makes us bigger.

00:34:16.000 And I'm I can look at that and no.

00:34:19.000 That's how the world works, but they only think one-dimensional.

00:34:22.000 It's very bizarre.

00:34:23.000 This is not the elite that took over the world.

00:34:25.000 This is not the grandfathers and mothers of the current elite.

00:34:28.000 They've been handed things, and they're just going around smoking crack cocaine and stuff.

00:34:33.000 They have no idea that they're only making it stronger. 1.00

00:34:35.000 And I paradoxically look at it and I go, how are they so dumb? 0.98

00:34:40.000 Yeah, well, it's as you say, these are not excellent people, you know, and you're absolutely right. 0.98

00:34:45.000 A hundred years ago, the elites that built the modern world were geniuses.

00:34:49.000 They were extremely intelligent.

00:34:50.000 They came from a different society.

00:34:52.000 I don't think we have a society that can even produce people on that level.

00:34:56.000 And you always, I love that you always talk about this, the genius of the founding fathers that came from a societal milieu.

00:35:03.000 You know, that was probably the greatest collection of political thinkers in thousands of years of world history, maybe not since ancient Greece.

00:35:10.000 We're good to go.

00:35:28.000 Which is to say, in chess, you have to look at action and reaction.

00:35:33.000 You have to think about your move, but also the opponent's move, and then what you might do as a counter to that move, and so on.

00:35:40.000 And so, as you say, they can persecute Trump, but then Trump gets a move.

00:35:46.000 You know, Trump has a turn.

00:35:47.000 He gets a card that he gets to play.

00:35:49.000 And the same is true with you.

00:35:51.000 They censor you, they did this ridiculous lawsuit against you, but you get a hand to play too.

00:35:56.000 They cancelled me in a similar way.

00:35:58.000 I have a hand to play as well.

00:36:00.000 And so did they think that by banning us from Twitter that we were going to disappear from Earth?

00:36:06.000 Like, if you block the Twitter account that you and I, and more importantly, the people that follow us, do millions of people just vaporize overnight?

00:36:16.000 Or do they say, huh, okay, do they shrug their shoulders and say, oh, Alex Jones got banned.

00:36:21.000 Yeah, they don't get taking us away from them makes our fans who are great people want us more.

00:36:26.000 They're not playing chess.

00:36:31.000 They're not even playing checkers.

00:36:31.000 It just makes them angry.

00:36:33.000 Exactly.

00:36:34.000 It just makes you and I more determined.

00:36:37.000 It just makes our followers more angry.

00:36:39.000 And it's like with Trump.

00:36:40.000 He got all these charges.

00:36:41.000 What happens the next day?

00:36:42.000 Raises $36 million.

00:36:45.000 Action.

00:36:45.000 Reaction.

00:36:47.000 And the thing is, but that goes back to the hubris.

00:36:49.000 They really believe that they are God.

00:36:51.000 If you challenge them, then you will be smited.

00:36:54.000 You're banned from Twitter.

00:36:55.000 We will charge you.

00:36:57.000 And they don't, on some level, really reckon with the threat that's posed by any of the situation, whether it be Russia, whether it be, I think, the strident anti-Israel sentiment right now, people like you and I, or people like Donald Trump.

00:37:11.000 They just don't reckon with anything. 0.86

00:37:12.000 Well, let's talk about Israel because I do see Israel as another corrupt country, corrupt elite. 1.00

00:37:16.000 But they are particularly trying to get the Arabs to attack. 1.00

00:37:19.000 They're trying to goad people. 1.00

00:37:22.000 It's a big piece of this.

00:37:23.000 So what do you think is going on with Netanyahu?

00:37:26.000 Because I think he miscalculated. 0.72

00:37:28.000 I mean, he's... Israel has really screwed up. 1.00

00:37:33.000 I totally agree. 0.71

00:37:34.000 I think that Netanyahu probably had prior knowledge of the October 7th attack. 0.94

00:37:39.000 He let it happen. 0.62

00:37:40.000 And I think he let it happen so that he could, which was his dream, his ambition, annex Gaza.

00:37:46.000 And I think that that would keep him in power because he's facing a prosecution on popularity.

00:37:51.000 I'm sure he thought that taking Gaza would extend his rule, increase his popularity.

00:37:56.000 By the way, he said that.

00:37:57.000 He said, once the war is over, we'll go back to me.

00:38:00.000 But now he says the war never ends. 0.90

00:38:03.000 Exactly.

00:38:04.000 And then the war is going to go and expand to Lebanon, and it's supposed to expand to Iran, and it's Palpatine.

00:38:10.000 You know, this is Star Wars 3.

00:38:11.000 It's supposed to be this never-ending power grab.

00:38:14.000 But you're right.

00:38:14.000 I mean, it's not working.

00:38:15.000 The regime is destabilizing.

00:38:17.000 Israel, like him or not, they have ostracized themselves from the world.

00:38:21.000 They have become a pariah state under Netanyahu's leadership.

00:38:24.000 It's a crisis within the Jewish community.

00:38:26.000 I mean, even many of the Jewish leadership are saying this.

00:38:29.000 And now they're talking about holding snap elections.

00:38:32.000 Against Netanyahu to remove him from power.

00:38:34.000 So I think you're totally right.

00:38:36.000 The damage that this has done to Israel, it's incalculable. 0.80

00:38:39.000 And I think it'll take a generation to reverse. 0.97

00:38:41.000 I don't even know where they go from here.

00:38:42.000 And it's a mirror, though, of the other Western elite committing seppuku as well, suicide. 0.56

00:38:47.000 And they're all just, whatever the worst move is, they can, it's like a psychopath.

00:38:52.000 They kill people at first in criminology.

00:38:54.000 And as they don't get caught, they start sending letters to the police.

00:38:56.000 They start getting more reckless.

00:38:57.000 They want to be caught.

00:38:58.000 It's weird.

00:39:00.000 You're absolutely right.

00:39:01.000 It's this weird, like, self-destructive impulse or something.

00:39:05.000 And it's almost like they just don't know how to turn it off.

00:39:08.000 They start to do these things, and, you know, they have these kinds of tactics in place, and I think they just don't even know how to act like normal politicians.

00:39:14.000 Because doubling down works when people are asleep.

00:39:17.000 It doesn't work when they're awake.

00:39:20.000 Right, and when you have activated a resistance.

00:39:23.000 They have a real resistance, I think, in the world against Israel, I think in the United States against this regime.

00:39:28.000 And as I said, they have not reckoned with the severity of that threat to their rule, or I would even say the conditions that are now going on.

00:39:36.000 All right, Nick, do five more minutes.

00:39:38.000 We appreciate you, and we got Eddie Bravo coming up.

00:39:41.000 But before we go to break, do five more minutes.

00:39:42.000 How do people follow you?

00:39:44.000 Rumble.com slash Nick J. Fuentes, Monday through Friday.

00:39:48.000 And on X?

00:39:50.000 And yes, I'm on X at Nick J. Fuentes, recently unbanned.

00:39:53.000 All right, so we're going to come back.

00:39:55.000 I've got a few final questions, and then I'm going to hit some news, and then Eddie Bravo's coming in here.

00:40:00.000 Can't wait to talk to Eddie.

00:40:01.000 All right, we'll be right back.

00:40:02.000 Hour number four, straight ahead.

00:40:57.000 We're good.

00:41:52.000 Yeah.

00:42:26.000 All right.

00:42:27.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

00:42:27.000 It's great to be with you again here, and I guess I'll take it away here.

00:42:30.000 Obviously, it's been a historic 24 hours with Donald Trump receiving the conviction on 34 charges in Manhattan.

00:42:34.000 I guess I would say, in closing,

00:42:55.000 The biggest takeaway from all of this, to me, maybe more than anything that we've talked about yet, I think everybody recognizes the severity of the situation we're in.

00:43:04.000 People see it's a crisis domestically inside the United States.

00:43:07.000 They see the crisis with inflation, with economic growth, with the debt.

00:43:12.000 They see it with the border.

00:43:14.000 I mean, you don't need me to tell you.

00:43:15.000 I think everybody recognizes the country is in a state of serious decline.

00:43:20.000 I think people also recognize the peril abroad.

00:43:22.000 As we talked about, you can take your pick at over a dozen flashpoints for conflict in the entire world.

00:43:29.000 It's anybody's guess which one is going to blow up and initiate World War III, but everyone sees that we're heading in that direction.

00:43:36.000 But I would draw everybody's attention to

00:43:39.000 One particular thing, which I don't think I see a lot of people talking about, or at least they're not talking about enough,

00:43:45.000 And that is the fact that when Joe Biden took power after January 6th in 2021, he wielded the power.

00:43:54.000 Joe Biden illegitimately seized power with these fake mail-in ballots, and it didn't take him long to go to work.

00:44:00.000 And the first thing he did, unlike a lot of the things that he promised to do, it had nothing to do with his ideology, it had nothing to do with liberalism or leftism.

00:44:08.000 The first thing, I would say even before he took office, is that his Department of Justice started to round up

00:44:14.000 Every single person that breached the Capitol on January 6th.

00:44:19.000 They appointed a thousand judges, 10,000 FBI agents.

00:44:23.000 And they went around, they went to the Bank of America Records, they went to social media platforms and subpoenaed direct messages, group chats, private messages, you name it.

00:44:34.000 And they went and they started the largest investigation in the history of the Department of Justice to get as many of these people in jail as possible.

00:44:41.000 To date, they've arrested and charged over 1,500 people.

00:44:46.000 And then, not soon after, the Department of Justice and jurisdictions across the country

00:44:51.000 And plaintiffs in civil suits began working on a number of cases, criminal cases, civil cases, against the former president.

00:45:01.000 And, of course, the four major indictments are the ones in Fulton County and Manhattan, the two DOJ charges, which include January 6th in the classified documents.

00:45:10.000 It's the civil rape case in New York and the related defamation case.

00:45:14.000 In a word, Joe Biden used his power to punish his political enemies.

00:45:20.000 The Democrats, the left, I mean, he's clearly not in power, but the regime, they forked over back the power and they began to use it to target their political opponents.

00:45:31.000 To me, this is a striking contrast with Donald Trump, who took office in 2016 and infamously declined to prosecute Hillary Clinton.

00:45:40.000 He said he would appoint a special counsel.

00:45:42.000 He said he was going to look into Hillary Clinton and put her in jail.

00:45:46.000 He won the election and dropped it.

00:45:49.000 Dropped the case against Clinton, dropped the case against Obama, and he thought that he could go to work on taxes and just sort of ignore the political condition under which he was elected.

00:45:58.000 And so I would say the main thing that Republicans need to rethink about their approach in 2024

00:46:05.000 is we have to engage in politics.

00:46:08.000 It's not enough to lower the taxes.

00:46:10.000 It's not enough to pass, you know, whatever bill, repeal Obamacare, this and that.

00:46:15.000 Republicans have got to get serious about governing.

00:46:18.000 They need to learn about governing.

00:46:19.000 They need to learn about statecraft.

00:46:21.000 And the one thing that Trump can do, the one thing that will have, I think, an impact that will stretch far beyond his one or two terms in office is to fire as many federal employees as possible.

00:46:34.000 And then, once empowered, patriots need to use that influence to fix the elections so that they are free and fair, and free people on social media so that we can ensure that we have a platform in the future to spread our message.

00:46:49.000 I think that's the most impactful political thing that Trump can do.

00:46:52.000 As far as I'm concerned, it's the only thing that matters.

00:46:55.000 We see what happens when we don't take politics seriously.

00:46:58.000 Trump went in, changed a lot of things.

00:47:01.000 Joe Biden came back, changed him right back.

00:47:03.000 The only thing that we can do is to disable the opposition.

00:47:07.000 I agree.

00:47:08.000 Nick Fuentes, thank you so much.

00:47:10.000 Join us again soon.

00:47:11.000 Nick Fuentes, we'll talk to you soon.

00:47:12.000 Thank you.

00:47:13.000 All right, Eddie Bravo and crew straight ahead.

00:47:15.000 Stay with us.

00:47:19.000 Your cardiovascular system is under attack.

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - May 31, 2024

Analyzing the Trump Conviction with Alex Jones

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