00:00:12.000And we have tonight, I think, the final answer for true conservatives, for all the old conservatives, for all the Republicans, the true cons, as we call them, the civic nationalists.
00:00:25.000We have the answer on the show tonight.
00:02:16.000We're going to insert Kwanzaa in there.
00:02:18.000And there's this expectation every year that the White House does the Muslim holidays and we're going to do all their ridiculous holidays, their goofy foreign holidays, and our Christian American holidays.
00:03:20.000And every year we're supposed to tolerate their holidays and we're supposed to put on our calendar all these funky, exotic new holidays from all over the place.
00:03:28.000You know, you're a good person or you're a cool, hip person if you know all the third world holidays, the Indian color festival holiday, the Jewish whatever holiday, the Muslim fasting holiday, and our Christian holidays.
00:03:44.000It's more of the same, in other words.
00:05:46.000They're talking about President Trump and what he said about Roy Moore.
00:05:50.000They're talking about entitlement reform.
00:05:51.000Nobody's talking about this, and this is big.
00:05:54.000So, last week in Baltimore, Deputy Sean Souter was executed while investigating suspicious activity.
00:06:01.000So, he was doing a routine patrol at night.
00:06:05.000He went to investigate some suspicious activity, and somebody came up to him and shot him in the head point blank, executed him, execution style.
00:06:15.000And he gets carted off to the hospital and he dies there from his injuries.
00:06:19.000In response, the Baltimore Police Department they close off streets, they institute security checkpoints.
00:06:26.000People are not allowed into West Baltimore if they don't have a yellow slip of paper confirming their residency, confirming their identity.
00:06:34.000They have police officers in tactical gear going from home to home asking if people have any information about the murder of this police officer.
00:06:44.000Residents have described it as, quote, an open air prison.
00:06:52.000And I see a story like this, and it just goes to show so much of what's happening in the country.
00:06:58.000This is a perfect cross section of what is in store for us, what is in store for this country in the next 20 to 50 years.
00:07:07.000Because for a long time, for 16 or 20, I don't know, I'm 19 years old, so my frame of reference is not great.
00:07:14.000But for as long as I've been involved with the conservative right wing type machine, the media, the think tanks, the politics, the fear has been.
00:07:24.000Big government, you know, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, all the major ones, they talk about how we have to avert government tyranny.
00:07:31.000Of course, people like Ben Shapiro, they got their start going on Piers Morgan talking about how gun control is what Mao Zedong and Stalin and Hitler did, and that's a warning of tyranny.
00:07:42.000And that was the meme for the Tea Party.
00:07:44.000From about 2008 to 2014, that was the message the Gadsden flag, don't tread on me, the Tea Party stuff, we have to have a small government.
00:07:54.000Since Donald Trump, I think the concern has shifted a little bit more to cultural and demographic affairs in the sense that big government is part of the evolving character and composition of the country.
00:08:07.000That as there are more third world people who come from countries with big governments, as there are more uneducated people, as there are, and this can be disputed, more low IQ people in the country will be more susceptible to big government and other things, such as crime, rape, drug abuse, among these other concerns.
00:08:26.000And for a long time, I think people on the left and the moderates and even just regular right wing people, they talk about this stuff or they hear this stuff and it's not really serious for them.
00:08:36.000You know, you listen to talk radio and they talk about big government and raising your taxes, Stalin and Hitler, my horseshoe theory.
00:08:47.000And I think people kind of treat it like it's this outside thing, right?
00:08:54.000Because it's so far in advance, it's so alien, it's so.
00:08:58.000Not in our experience, that I don't think anybody really took it seriously.
00:09:02.000I don't think people do take it seriously.
00:09:04.000People who watch this show go about their daily lives without concerns about the government, without concerns about mass immigration.
00:09:14.000You know, we have our beliefs, and then we have our beliefs, right?
00:09:19.000The things that we like to think are true and what we hold true in our minds, and then what's true on the day to day basis when you're going to work, when you're driving around, when you're making decisions with money and And with professions and education and all that.
00:09:34.000And you see an example like this, where this is real, this happened, this is in Baltimore.
00:09:39.000This is the third time in three years that this has happened, where the police come in, they shut down the streets, there's security checkpoints, there's martial law, they're going door to door in tactical gear.
00:09:53.000That is real for the people of Baltimore.
00:09:54.000That's not something that you put off for 20 years.
00:09:57.000That's not something that you hear on the radio on the way to your work, you know, where it's safe and you don't have to lock the doors and you don't check the back seat of your car.
00:10:05.000And you don't have to look over your shoulder, and you don't have to leave a little bit of a gap at the stoplight in case you need to do a U turn.
00:10:17.000And it's becoming, I think, more and more real every day.
00:10:19.000And when we see examples like this, it tells us something about our country and about our Constitution, which is that everything that we have right now, whether you talk about the tax cuts, you talk about the free speech, the Constitution, the Second Amendment, education, all these fanciful things we like to talk about.
00:10:38.000They all go away when you don't have law and order.
00:10:41.000They all go away when you don't have people who are not violent criminals.
00:10:45.000They all go away and you have people, in a word, that don't see themselves as citizens of a country.
00:10:51.000And that's what's happening in these cities.
00:10:54.000That's what's happening in many of these states.
00:10:55.000And I think this is the answer because all the constitutionalists will tell us you should fear big government.
00:11:02.000And I'm not a big government advocate, I'm not saying that.
00:11:05.000But they say that demographics don't matter.
00:11:38.000But you see that all of that doesn't matter.
00:11:41.000None of that matters when you have people.
00:11:44.000Who are not good citizens when you have people who are not good custodians of their country?
00:11:49.000What underwrites every constitutional freedom, what underlies every constitutional restriction on government, is necessarily a responsibility of the citizenry.
00:12:05.000Why can we have the right to bear arms?
00:12:07.000Why can we have the right to a fair and speedy trial and on and on?
00:12:11.000It's because when the country was founded and when the English settlers came here, even before the country was founded in 1600, There was a culture that existed among them.
00:12:22.000They came from someplace where there were rules, there were standards of conduct, and people took it upon themselves.
00:12:30.000It was incumbent on them that they were responsible for their actions.
00:12:33.000And when you had people that were going to school, and when you had people that were going to their jobs, and when people were acting responsibly, you didn't need government laws.
00:12:52.000Of terror organizations and homeland security organizations because people didn't hate their country and they didn't hate themselves and they didn't hate their neighbors in the sense that the government at the time was not dealing with civil unrest and ethnic conflict.
00:13:08.000They weren't dealing with a population in revolt, they weren't dealing with favelas of violent crime, of intrastate organizations, non state actors.
00:13:19.000They were dealing with a citizenry that played by the rules.
00:13:24.000And that's the answer to the true conservatives who say that the Constitution above all else.
00:13:30.000Because what happens is, and what you see in Baltimore is, you bring people in from foreign countries, from foreign cultures, foreign ideologies, different traits and characteristics that don't go away.
00:13:43.000And they come here and they bring their ways that force the hand of their governments in their home countries, and it just won't work with our Constitution.
00:13:53.000You can't have a population in revolt and small government.
00:13:56.000And if you do, then the dangerous people will step on and trample your civil liberties, right?
00:14:03.000Ben Shapiro might not have a problem with legal immigrants from El Salvador and Nicaragua so long as he has his First Amendment enshrined in the law in Washington, D.C.
00:14:14.000But what difference does it make if he speaks out against a gang and they kill his family?
00:14:19.000What difference does it make if the government says that guns are legal and on the laws there's no gun ban?
00:14:26.000But if they have guns and there are people that want to kill them in their schools or in their malls, I mean, just what difference does it make if the government comes to kill them or if a gang comes to kill them or some immigrant comes to kill them?
00:14:49.000What neighborhoods do you have to look out for in Chicago and Los Angeles and Baltimore and Washington, D.C. and Boston?
00:14:56.000You know, even the high income cities, even the metropolitan cities.
00:15:00.000The cosmopolitan cities, they all have their neighborhoods, and we know which ones they are.
00:15:05.000For all the rhetoric we hear about violent white males and white males with mental diseases and all that, I don't think anybody is really afraid to go into the white neighborhoods in the major cities, right?
00:15:17.000I don't think anybody's really terrified of driving through rural Ohio or rural West Virginia, where you have some of the poorest white people.
00:15:26.000Nobody's really terrified of going to Appalachia, but try going to the south side of Chicago.
00:15:36.000So I think this is a really good example, and I'm just surprised why you don't hear about it in the news.
00:15:42.000You know, why don't you hear about these stories in the news when the police just says we have to shut down the whole thing because everybody here is a criminal, because everybody here is a suspect?
00:16:55.000Why do people think that somehow everything's all just going to be okay?
00:17:00.000I think that's the most evil and harmful assumption that people make in politics in this day and age is that somehow, without people acting, without good people doing the right thing, well, that just doesn't matter.
00:17:44.000Somehow you could go into Walmart and the shelves will still be stocked.
00:17:48.000Somehow, you can go to any store for that matter, and they'll still be the kinds of things that you need, and they'll be healthy and safe to consume or safe to use.
00:17:55.000Or you can use the roads, and somehow the roads will maintain themselves, even if people don't show up to work, even if people aren't getting jobs, even if people are unemployed, even if people don't care about the work that they do.
00:18:07.000That's the most harmful belief that I encounter the complacency.
00:18:12.000And you see the complacency more than anywhere else in politics and in the media, because the people that I've dealt with.
00:18:19.000From the student activist organizations, from the political organizations, from the think tanks.
00:18:27.000I've been to the Young Americans for Liberty conference.
00:18:31.000I've been to the Leadership Institute conference.
00:18:34.000I've met people that are in the network.
00:18:36.000And prevailing among all these people is just a lack of a sense of urgency and a lack of a sense of responsibility that, you know, they can bide their time.
00:18:45.000They're going to take their chances not being politically correct because hopefully in 20 or 30 or 40 years, they might.
00:18:53.000Maybe be able to make an incremental reform.
00:19:32.000The people online, the people in politics will do all the reforming, or the president will do it, or the Congress will do it.
00:19:39.000But you can just keep on living your life.
00:19:43.000So, a little bit of a, that was kind of preachy, right?
00:19:45.000And a little bit of a black pill, but it's also a white pill in the sense that, and that is how it is many times.
00:19:52.000There is a dual nature of these events, but it is a white pill in the sense that it should motivate people to get out of bed and do what needs to be done because it really is on everybody to do their part.
00:20:04.000And I think this is where people can answer the question of this existential crisis in the West, where people feel like.
00:20:16.000I think many people can take a little bit of solace in understanding that for us to turn this ship around, it is literally down to a man how important this movement is.
00:20:25.000That if everybody who knows about this is not pulling their weight as much as they can, it won't work.
00:20:31.000And so I think that is a white pill in a sense.
00:20:33.000Because you take your average college student, for example, who feels like they're another cog in the machine.
00:20:39.000That's how I felt at Boston University.
00:20:42.000You got some 30,000 students, and the administrators don't care about you.
00:20:47.000The building people don't care about you.
00:20:53.000You feel a little bit lost in the crowd.
00:20:55.000And people who are there, they're studying just these vapid, non subjects, marketing things, some business things that don't make sense, science things, gender things, whatever.
00:21:06.000I think the answer to that existential angst of the work I'm doing doesn't matter, the work I'm doing isn't meaningful, my life isn't meaningful.
00:21:15.000If you get involved in this movement, and that doesn't even mean like activism, this isn't even like a Barack Obama grab a clipboard and organize like political Solinski thing, but it is to say that do your part for your country.
00:21:29.000I think that's the answer to that existential question, which is if people understand that them having a family, you know, them doing the simple act of getting married, you know, waiting until marriage, getting married, having a family, going to work, voting Republican, going to church.
00:21:49.000And doing all the things that they're supposed to, that makes a difference.
00:21:52.000I think that'll be really impactful for all the youth out there.
00:23:33.000It's also a national and historical identity.
00:23:35.000And race is a part of it in soul and in genetics, but just a part.
00:23:40.000To base an entire movement off of the racialism doesn't work.
00:23:43.000And I think the message really, really lies in something that's a little bit beyond that, something that's a little bit more about the soul.
00:23:51.000And the only way to answer these questions, again, is to recover our identity and ultimately keep these people out.
00:23:58.000Keep these people out or keep them down here.
00:24:28.000Well, if enough people read Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell, And enough people saved their money and read Ludwig von Mises.
00:24:39.000It doesn't matter if they have kids, if they don't have kids, if they're trannies, if they get married to black people or red people or yellow people or if they go to church or if they don't.
00:24:50.000You know, that's the Ben Shapiro mindset nothing really matters.
00:24:54.000I don't really care what anybody else does so long as it doesn't affect me.
00:24:57.000Well, that's a really nice thought when you live in a gated community, right?
00:25:01.000And you get to helicopter in everywhere.
00:25:03.000But for the rest of us, not going to work out.
00:25:07.000And I'm just surprised that you, not even on liberal media, you should hear about that on liberal media because it'd be like a black thing, like, you know, police mass incarceration thing.
00:25:40.000This came out on Wednesday, actually, last week, but I didn't hear about it until this week.
00:25:44.000The Congressional Office of Compliance released a year by year breakdown of harassment settlements on Wednesday, and that included over $17 million for settlements in the past decade.
00:26:01.000In a similar story, Michigan Representative John Conyers admitted on Monday to settling a sexual harassment allegation from a former staffer.
00:26:09.000And then today, there was another one, a real beauty here.
00:26:13.000A second accuser came forth with a public suit.
00:26:16.000So the first one, I don't think, was public.
00:26:18.000She made allegations against this congressman, but she eventually went away.
00:26:27.000They asked, I think they pressured her to make it sealed, so she just kind of went away.
00:26:31.000And then this one was actually a public suit that she filed against the congressman, but she actually ended up dropping it because he was a civil rights leader and she didn't want to.
00:26:40.000I don't know why the hell she wouldn't want to do it, but.
00:26:43.000We heard from Paul Ryan that it was deeply troubling.
00:26:47.000We heard from Nancy Pelosi it was deeply troubling.
00:26:52.000And it's funny to me, I mean, beyond the fact that, or deeply concerning, I'm sorry.
00:26:57.000It's funny beyond the fact that you have in Congress taxpayer money going to settle these scumbags' sexual assault allegations.
00:27:05.000And it's hilarious enough that you have all these civil rights leaders who turn out to be disgusting perverts and nobody's allowed to talk about that because, I don't know, because they were black, because they did something for blacks, I don't know.
00:27:19.000But beyond all of that, isn't it bizarre how you hear the same phrases in the responses?
00:27:25.000You know, we have this, and this is no surprise.
00:27:29.000I'm sure if you went to the, if you go and you look at the city of Chicago alderman meetings, I mean, you'll see some real beauties there.
00:27:35.000And you see them in Congress as well in some of these districts in the inner cities.
00:27:42.000And so it's no surprise that you have these sexual assault allegations.
00:27:45.000But isn't it rich that after weeks and weeks of Mitch McConnell demanding that Roy Moore step down and demanding that Roy Moore resign and, you know, making all these demands and Ivanka Trump, Ivanka Trump is broad, she gets on television and says, There's a special place in hell for people like Roy Moore.
00:29:20.000And that sounds like a crazy thing to say, that sounds like a normie thing to say.
00:29:26.000But think of the implications of that.
00:29:27.000People who listen to these podcasts and they turn on the television and they look to their politicians with like this religious conviction in what they're saying.
00:29:37.000And they would, I mean, regular people might tell you like they're all scumbags and liars, but do they really believe it?
00:29:43.000Have they really looked at all the times the media just outright lies to your face?
00:29:48.000At all the times politicians outright lie?
00:29:50.000I mean, yeah, people say, oh, yeah, everyone in government's a liar.
00:30:15.000Countless examples of this in this week alone, demonstrably, that this is the case.
00:30:21.000Where you have Roy Moore, it's pretty black and white.
00:30:23.000Roy Moore, you have accusations, allegations, stories from people 40 years ago, and there's no documentation, no police reports, no witnesses, no hard evidence, in a word.
00:30:36.000And everybody in Congress is calling on him to step down.
00:30:40.000Everybody in media is saying he's a pedophile.
00:30:42.000The Republicans are electing a pedophile in Alabama.
00:30:47.000And then with the Democrats, with Al Franken, you have a photograph with this guy, with this Conyers.
00:30:53.000You have two public suits, or actually one private, one public, and they say it's deeply concerning.
00:31:00.000Well, there should be an investigation.
00:31:01.000We got to give them the benefit of the doubt.
00:31:06.000And then beside all of that, which we've been hearing about this all week, the real double standard between Roy Moore and everybody else, beyond all of that, isn't it funny how people like Martin Luther King Jr.
00:31:18.000Isn't it funny how people like John Conyers and all these left wing heroes basically get excused for all their historical wrongdoing?
00:31:27.000Martin Luther King Jr. Was a pervert, was a plagiarist, was a communist.
00:31:33.000Nelson Mandela was a terrorist and a communist.
00:32:07.000Just with Charlottesville, Robert E. Lee fought for the Confederacy.
00:32:10.000You know, never mind that he was actually going to fight for the Union people, but because of his loyalty to his country, to his state, his region, he fought for the Confederacy, and he was actually against slavery.
00:32:22.000But these historical sins are, they're all over the place.
00:32:26.000They cry bloody murder when you invoke these people.
00:32:28.000You know, I remember in my European history class, In high school, my sophomore year, my freshman year, I brought up how Martin Luther King was all these things.
00:32:38.000I said, You know, teacher, why is it that we celebrate Martin Luther King Jr. Day?
00:33:03.000That he cheated on his wife, that he had prostitutes.
00:33:05.000We found out all kinds of other sick things with the JFK document dump that he was a homosexual, that he was in these orgies, and all kinds of other coercive things.
00:33:15.000And she told me, and this is the refrain from the liberals that, well, the real man is less important than the idea of the man, because it's more about what Martin Luther King Jr. represents.
00:33:30.000And so, of course, man is not perfect.
00:33:37.000But Martin Luther King Jr., it's about he represents this ideal and hope and what he did and blah, blah, blah.
00:33:43.000And you notice that that generosity, that consideration is never, not in a million years, extended to anybody else except for a very select group of like left wing and minority radicals, right?
00:34:00.000That is not extended to Thomas Jefferson, not to George Washington, not to even some other controversial figures.
00:34:09.000Not to even some other major controversial figures from the 20th century.
00:35:42.000We saw that with Congress, and that's just a real scandal.
00:35:46.000They talk all day long about how we don't have enough money to pay for the wall, and yet they have $17 million to spend on sexual assault settlements.
00:35:57.000And not like $17 million is comparable to the $10.
00:36:00.000Or $20 billion it would cost for the wall.
00:36:02.000But it is the principle of the matter.
00:36:04.000If we're going to be these budget hawks about we can't spend money on X, Y, and Z because we have a debt or whatever, well, then you can't go around spending a dime on settling harassment allegations and all that.
00:36:19.000But then we also heard, in addition to the congressional stuff, in addition to our friend John Conyers, civil rights champion, also some patterns there.
00:36:28.000I don't know, Martin Luther King, John Conyers, Al Sharpton.
00:36:45.000And this was after eight women came forward with allegations of sexual assault.
00:36:51.000And we saw our buddy John Lasseter, the chief of Pixar.
00:36:56.000He is now on a leave of absence because of, I don't even recall, it's pretty loose, like why he resigned.
00:37:02.000It seemed like some kind of a preemptive move because he.
00:37:04.000I think the only allegations were in his statement where he said, like, there's been murmurs of people who are uncomfortable.
00:37:10.000So I'm not entirely sure about that one.
00:37:12.000But it's really a great thing because all these people are finally being brought to justice.
00:37:17.000And I think people are finally starting to see the real divide in the country that it's not between you and your neighbor, it's not between you and not even a racial thing.
00:37:27.000It's not a political thing, it's not a religious thing.
00:37:30.000Even on the right, people try to divide us between blacks and whites and between Muslims and Christians.
00:37:37.000I think it's between the people and the elites.
00:37:40.000It's between the people that are running the country and they're doing a bad job of it and they're doing a deliberately bad job at it and they're pitting people against each other for their benefit and us who are struggling, who pay taxes, who are toiling and working endlessly.
00:38:08.000Problems with politicians than illegal immigrants.
00:38:11.000I have a bigger bone to pick with politicians and congressmen and senators than illegal immigrants, than Black Lives Matter, than the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:38:22.000I'm going to be honest because all the previous groups, all the former groups of BLM and all the rest, these are people pursuing their interests.
00:38:32.000And I don't think you can really hold them at fault for pursuing their own interests at our expense.
00:38:37.000I mean, that's what everybody's going to do.
00:38:39.000But it's a question of who allows this to happen, who creates this strife, who is injecting this narrative into the media.
00:38:46.000Those are the people that need to be held accountable.
00:38:48.000An illegal immigrant from Mexico who was like, I don't know, a grape farmer, and they were a peasant, and they're illiterate, and they're poor, and they want a better life for their kids, and they come over to the border, and they take our free shit.
00:39:01.000Yeah, I mean, is it like ethically bad according to a Western standard, which is built on, I don't know, Western capabilities?
00:39:09.000Perhaps, but I don't think I begrudge them.
00:39:12.000I don't think I don't really hold them so much accountable for that as much as I hold accountable the people that are tasked with keeping those people out of the country.
00:39:20.000You know, really, who's at fault there?
00:39:23.000If the politicians are elected and they get money to seal the border, to build a wall and keep these people out, and they don't do it, and these people get in as a result, am I going to hold accountable the foreigner who came here and pursued his interest at the expense of mine?
00:39:37.000Or my own countrymen, my own neighbor who asked for my vote, who took my campaign contribution, and he took it and he betrayed me?
00:39:45.000You know, who's really worse in that situation?
00:39:48.000And the same is true with the Muslims that are here, the same is true with the blacks who are entitled and the Black Lives Matter people, and on and on.
00:39:56.000And that's why I don't think it does us a whole lot of justice to divide among the people.
00:40:01.000I mean, the people are not the ones that are going to hurt us.
00:40:05.000Any regular person who might do you harm in the country pales in comparison to the politician who will bring over a million people just like that person without regard for the consequences of it on you and your family, and they take your money.
00:40:40.000Our buddies are, our donors are, and that's our only special interest on the show our super chats, our listeners, and dominoes and big water.
00:40:49.000But other than that, no special interest here.
00:40:51.000No big oil, no big Israel lobby, no Muslim lobby, no Wahhabist lobby.
00:40:59.000The only lobbies here are you, the American people.
00:42:04.000I'm pretty sure the Senate, I'm pretty sure the Congress can take federal judges out.
00:42:10.000In terms of they can excuse them, I'm not totally sure.
00:42:14.000But if they can't on that, then the president is just appointing lots of federal judges.
00:42:19.000I personally think the judiciary is way over the top here, it is way over the line.
00:42:24.000You would probably have to have, if you were to rein them in, here's what I imagine you would have to go about doing.
00:42:29.000I imagine that if you wanted to fix it on a systemic level, because you could pull judges all you want and you can replace judges all you want, but the only thing that would stop judges from interfering in policy is if there's literally one federal judge.
00:42:42.000Who you're not able to get, right, at some point in time.
00:42:45.000So, the way to fix it at a systemic level is for the president and the executive to launch some kind of a suit to sue essentially the federal judge or the state and have that come before the Supreme Court and question essentially the constitutional jurisdiction of the courts.
00:43:01.000Because I think the federal judiciary right now is out of control.
00:43:04.000You know, you talk about executive overreach, you talk about congressional overreach.
00:43:09.000How about the judiciary that's basically assumed supreme law of the country?
00:43:14.000You forget the judicial review isn't even in the Constitution, and that's not even pertaining to the federal judges that basically get veto power over Congress and over the executive.
00:43:24.000I don't remember the founders writing that into the Constitution.
00:43:27.000That some federal judge in Hawaii gets to overturn our immigration legislation or an executive order?
00:43:35.000You know, this federal judge with the immigration ban that was tried twice, and then I guess a third time after the second one expired.
00:43:44.000The Immigration and Nationalities Act allows the president to suspend any class of aliens at any time, for any reason, for any period of time, and unilaterally.
00:44:30.000Whenever I go to the south and I go outside, it like shakes me a little bit because the white noise that you have in the cities, it's just not there.
00:44:39.000It just feels like this audible silence.
00:45:43.000And that's not to say he doesn't make some good content, that's not to say he doesn't have some good commentary.
00:45:48.000But generally, I just think certain people are.
00:45:52.000Are like a black dot on this movement.
00:45:55.000And whether you agree with them or not, it comes back to the optics thing, where in an ideal world, in a perfect world, we would say he can have a seat at the table and have a dialogue and have a conversation.
00:46:08.000But at the same time, do you want to have a viable political movement or do you want to pursue an ideal world?
00:46:13.000I'd rather have a viable political movement.
00:46:15.000You know, and here's another thing about the alt right that I think isn't said enough.
00:46:20.000The reason why Donald Trump was so successful.
00:46:23.000And why he got away with saying the things he was able to say is because he was disarming.
00:46:28.000That is a big thing that people miss about Donald Trump.
00:46:31.000Why was he able to call for a Muslim ban?
00:46:33.000Why was he able to say that Mexicans are bringing their drugs to a crime and they're rapists?
00:46:40.000It's because people didn't take him seriously.
00:46:43.000Because he was tan and he had the goofy hair and he was a reality TV star and he was funny.
00:46:49.000You know, people wanted to paint him as the next Hitler, but at the same time, people wanted to paint him as this clown and this goof.
00:46:56.000And that's why he was able to get away with so much.
00:46:58.000That's how he was able to push people because he said, you know, all these things that are totally reasonable and logical that the media would have you believe are scary and tyrannical.
00:47:14.000That is so key to persuasion disarming people.
00:47:18.000When these guys from the alt right, and Reinhard Wolf still complains about it on poll that I called these guys faggots, but when you have these people and they march through the streets with torches and they're yelling and they're angry and they're talking about physically removing people from the country and they come off as very aggressive and to an extent a little bit intimidating, it's not a good look for politics, not for American politics.
00:47:45.000Because people will take that seriously and they will consider it with the gravity that it requires, and odds are they'll be turned off to it.
00:47:51.000You know, I mean, who would you be more susceptible to?
00:47:54.000Like a funny guy, a funny guy like Donald Trump who jokes about, like, you know, only Rosie O'Donnell.
00:48:00.000He tells Jeb Bush to shut up and he says, you know, maybe we should have some reasonable limits on immigration.
00:48:05.000Would you vote for that guy or a guy that's doing Roman salutes and is marching through the streets with torches, yelling about Jews and everything else?
00:48:15.000Again, it's a question of optics, it's a question of what does it look like?
00:48:23.000I'm concerned with what is going to work, what is going to change things.
00:48:27.000And if you care about your people, you care about what works.
00:48:30.000That's something else that's not said enough.
00:48:32.000You know, you really care about your people.
00:48:35.000You know, they call each other's brothers and the movement and all of this.
00:48:39.000If you really care about your people, you do things that would help your people, whether that means charity, whether that means some kind of whatever, or just simply making moves so that reforms can affect people in your time and help them.
00:48:54.000You know, all the people who talk the most and complain the most about white people hurting are the people that do the least about it.
00:49:51.000Droek, do you think allowing gays to get married started a lot of the degeneracy we see?
00:50:00.000In mainstream media, academia, television, do you think we can go back from a former libertarian on the issue?
00:50:06.000Again, there's this question of the law.
00:50:09.000There's a question of this legalism that is very pervasive, I think, in the NRX, particularly, crowd in the alt right, and people who believe in culture, people who believe in more of a Dionysian as opposed to an Apollonian conception of reform.
00:50:24.000And I think, you know, the Supreme Court saying that homosexuals could get married in all 50 states, you can't look at that as an inflection point in the sense that.
00:50:34.000That was the culmination of a long campaign, a cultural campaign that was waged persistently and everywhere for two decades.
00:50:43.000I mean, you have to understand that that was the culmination of a long thing in the making.
00:50:48.000And that was only a victory lap, essentially.
00:50:50.000That was only like they had completed the victory.
00:50:54.000But the victory had already, I think, been on their side for many, many years.
00:51:00.000And I don't think that you have laws on the books that permit a civil union between partners.
00:51:15.000I haven't fully recovered from my libertarian, so I have to say I'm kind of ambivalent about it.
00:51:19.000What I'm against is the fact that you have degeneracy.
00:51:22.000And not just with homosexuals, I think in many cases, homosexuals are a scapegoat because you see a lot of degeneracy among heterosexuals as well.
00:51:57.000I mean, there are many examples of policies and things that have just ripped to shreds the foundation of sexual and romantic morality in the country between the sexes.
00:52:09.000And I think homosexual marriage, the law, I don't think had a whole lot to do with it.
00:53:52.000Doesn't everybody just want to love somebody?
00:53:55.000Love that vapid thing, and they made it out like these people were getting hunted in the streets, they were getting like gunned down in the streets.
00:54:03.000They brought up the worst, most excessive examples of opposition to it of real haters and the regular voter who is not a hateful person, who is a person who is generally welcoming and benevolent and a kind hearted person, saying, Well, you know, come on, like, if it'll make them happy, like, whatever, yeah, we'll just give it to them.
00:54:23.000I mean, they had the more convincing argument, the more convincing emotional appeal.
00:54:28.000And so I think that's the way to go about it.
00:54:31.000I mean, that's the way to go about it, it's not the way that we went about it, how we lost it in the past 20 years, which was excess, right?
00:56:08.000If you want an ethnostate, think of it this way.
00:56:10.000If you were to want an ethnostate, The answer is deportations, ending the entitlement system so that there's self deportations, and increasing the native birth rate.
00:56:23.000I mean, that is how you would achieve it.
00:56:25.000Do any of those policies require talk explicitly of an ethnostate in order to pass?
00:56:30.000Would it help or hinder those policies getting passed to try and win people over on the ultimate objective, the ultimate directive that hypothetically you would have in mind?
00:57:06.000I haven't read a lot of fiction really in my life at all.
00:57:08.000I've just been a big reader because there's so much you don't know as a young person being brought up through this education system, things you just aren't taught.
00:57:16.000But I have to say, my favorite fiction is Dostoevsky.
00:57:20.000Gene E says, Great show again, worth more than two shekels.