America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Back to Basics on Immigration | America First Ep. 107

00:00:01.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:02.000 We're watching America First.

00:00:03.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes, and we have a great show for you tonight.

00:00:08.000 Lots to talk about, not actually a lot in the news.

00:00:12.000 There's a lot of things going on in the Middle East, as always.

00:00:16.000 This is the nature of things.

00:00:17.000 This is what we've been talking about for two weeks.

00:00:19.000 But what we have to talk about tonight, we have to get back to basics here.

00:00:24.000 We're talking about DACA.

00:00:26.000 We're talking about illegal immigration more broadly.

00:00:29.000 And you'll see tonight a return of The whiteboard.

00:00:33.000 The whiteboard is very prominent this week, but we have to get back to basics on immigration.

00:00:39.000 The Senate is now debating DACA.

00:00:41.000 They have been since yesterday.

00:00:43.000 They're talking about President Trump's proposal.

00:00:45.000 They're talking about other amendments, sanctuary city amendments.

00:00:48.000 They're talking about pathway to citizenship.

00:00:51.000 They're talking about the border wall and a great number of things.

00:00:54.000 And so we will be getting into that, but it's a very eventful day on DACA.

00:00:58.000 I want to get right into it.

00:01:00.000 You know, this episode is really going to be, I think, For the vets, for the people that know what's going on with immigration, but also for people that don't know so much what's going on with immigration.

00:01:10.000 This will be a good episode to show to the normies, to friends, family, people who don't know, because I want to lay out pretty clearly what is going on with illegal immigration in depth, why it's happening, why our senators are continuing to allow it to happen.

00:01:26.000 Because I see this debate in the Senate right now, and I see that the Democrats have held up the government.

00:01:33.000 Government funding.

00:01:34.000 They're holding up debate in the Senate.

00:01:35.000 They're holding up progress in the legislature on things like infrastructure, on things like the budget, on things like making adjustments to entitlements or other things to support illegal immigrants.

00:01:46.000 And you have to stop and think about why that's happening. 0.99

00:01:49.000 Why is it that our elected representatives and in the Senate, which is the more important House, that's the upper chamber of the Congress, why are they holding up debate for people that shouldn't even be in the country? 0.81

00:02:00.000 Why are they holding up debate for non citizens, people that came over here and they take benefits and they take? 0.79

00:02:05.000 What we have here, and why is that happening?

00:02:07.000 So, we're really going to answer those questions why it's going on and get into where this all started.

00:02:12.000 So, to begin, we have to talk about why this is even an issue today.

00:02:18.000 So, of course, the Senate began discussing DACA yesterday, and this was a part of the deal.

00:02:24.000 If you recall, when the first government shutdown was resolved in January, it was a couple of Mondays ago.

00:02:30.000 The deal that was made between the Democrats and Republicans was that Chuck Schumer agreed, I will give the Democratic votes the requisite.

00:02:38.000 Nine Democratic votes to get the 60 vote majority in the Senate to pass a budget and fund the government in exchange for Mitch McConnell allowing a debate on DACA.

00:02:49.000 And that was the deal that was made.

00:02:50.000 Chuck Schumer said, You give us this debate on DACA, you give us this debate on the future of the 690,000 DACA recipients, and I will fund your government.

00:02:59.000 And the reason, of course, why he compromised is because Democrats were blamed for it, and rightfully so.

00:03:04.000 But that's where we are today.

00:03:05.000 We got another short term stopgap measure which will fund the government through to March 23rd.

00:03:11.000 And following through on the original promise from the original government shutdown, that is why we are discussing DACA and is a part of a larger budget deal or a larger immigration deal.

00:03:23.000 Now, there is another development today that wasn't about the debate.

00:03:26.000 Yesterday, the debate began in the Senate, and it looks like it's slow.

00:03:30.000 It looks like there's not a whole lot of compromise being made.

00:03:33.000 President Trump is sticking to his guns on the deal that he proposed in the State of the Union and last week on Twitter, and Democrats don't seem to want to compromise.

00:03:42.000 Well, There was another development today on DACA.

00:03:45.000 If you recall, in January, there was a San Francisco District Court which impeded the Trump administration from rescinding DACA.

00:03:53.000 They ruled that it was unconstitutional for President Trump.

00:03:57.000 It exceeded the scope of his authority in the executive branch to rescind the DACA program unilaterally without Congress.

00:04:05.000 And of course, this is nonsense because the DACA program was established by executive order by President Obama during his administration when he himself couldn't get it through Congress.

00:04:15.000 So it's bogus, but this is a temporary delay.

00:04:18.000 And we found out today that another district judge has issued another injunction on the rescinding of DACA, a judge from New York this time.

00:04:28.000 And so now President Trump is appealing the decision to the Supreme Court.

00:04:32.000 The Supreme Court is debating on whether or not they're going to take the case, whether or not they are going to allow the administration to appeal this decision by the two district judges.

00:04:42.000 And whether that happens or not, March 5th is the day that the DACA program is rescinded.

00:04:47.000 March 5th is the day that, you know, whether the Supreme Court has their injunction or not, or whether they allow it to go through or not.

00:04:54.000 And it looks like inevitably they will allow President Trump to rescind DACA.

00:04:59.000 March 5th is the day that all the legal protections expire, and those 690,000 DACA recipients I'm tempted to say DACA kids, but the average age is 24 for the DACA recipients those legal protections go away on March 5th.

00:05:13.000 And although the Department of Homeland Security has said that they are not a priority for deportation, they will have to be fired from their jobs.

00:05:21.000 If they're working at a major corporation, if they're working at McDonald's or Walmart or 7 Eleven, they will have to be fired.

00:05:29.000 And many corporations put out Sort of a question to their lawyers and said, What happens if DACA gets rescinded?

00:05:36.000 And the lawyers responded, You have to fire the DACA recipient.

00:05:39.000 So March 5th is D Day, essentially.

00:05:41.000 But to get to the fundamental question, why are they debating it?

00:05:44.000 It really goes back to voting.

00:05:47.000 It goes back to voting.

00:05:48.000 And I was astounded when I looked into these statistics.

00:05:52.000 I didn't realize how bad it was.

00:05:55.000 Because you look at the 2016 election and you see that Hispanics went for Hillary Clinton by a margin of 71 to 29.

00:06:02.000 71 for Hillary Clinton.

00:06:04.000 29 for Donald Trump.

00:06:05.000 And you look at that and you say, maybe there's room for growth there.

00:06:10.000 Maybe there's a competitive demographic there in a couple of generations.

00:06:15.000 29 to 71, is that so outrageous?

00:06:18.000 Certainly, it's not the best thing in the world for Republicans to bring in more Hispanics or for more Hispanics to get citizenship.

00:06:24.000 Because if they get citizenship in Texas and Florida and Arizona and Georgia and Colorado and North Carolina, well, they flip the swing states if they're going 71 to 29. 0.74

00:06:33.000 And that's what I entered into it thinking.

00:06:35.000 This has been my conception.

00:06:37.000 This has been the number in my head.

00:06:37.000 For the longest time.

00:06:39.000 They go three out of 10 for Republicans, seven out of 10 for Democrats.

00:06:44.000 The reality is far worse for the Republicans.

00:06:48.000 The reality is far, far more bleak than we could have anticipated, far more bleak than the seven to three number.

00:06:55.000 I actually looked into this on Pew Research, and maybe people in our own movement don't even understand this.

00:07:01.000 But if you go to Pew Research and you look into the voting patterns for immigrants, legal and illegal, If you're looking at legal immigrants, Hispanics identify as Republicans one out of 10.

00:07:15.000 So for every 10 Hispanic immigrants, one of them identifies as a Republican.

00:07:20.000 One out of 10.

00:07:22.000 That's the same margin as blacks that went for Barack Obama. 0.68

00:07:26.000 That's the same margin as blacks that went for Hillary Clinton.

00:07:28.000 One out of 10 for Hispanic immigrants identify as Republicans.

00:07:33.000 Will we be a competitive party in 15 or 20 years?

00:07:37.000 Will we be a competitive party at the state level or at the national level? 0.98

00:07:41.000 If Texas is overrun by immigrants from Latin America? 0.99

00:07:45.000 Are we going to be able to win another presidential national election without Texas, without Florida, without Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado? 1.00

00:07:54.000 Are we ready to concede all those states? 1.00

00:07:56.000 That's with legal immigrants. 0.95

00:07:58.000 But of course, DACA does not concern legal immigrants.

00:08:02.000 DACA concerns illegal immigrants. 0.55

00:08:04.000 And it's funny because when you look at the numbers, when you look at the tables, Pew has this cute thing where they call them unauthorized immigrants. 0.99

00:08:13.000 I love that.

00:08:13.000 Immigrants.

00:08:14.000 Unauthorized, undocumented. 1.00

00:08:17.000 Makes it sound like, oh, well, you know, they just don't have their papers on them.

00:08:20.000 They just didn't fill out the paperwork. 0.93

00:08:22.000 But no, I mean, they're illegal aliens, foreign born.

00:08:25.000 If you look at the numbers for illegal immigrants, it's one in 20. 0.90

00:08:30.000 One in 20 unauthorized Hispanic immigrants in the country identify as Republicans.

00:08:35.000 For every 20 of these people, for every 20 of the 690,000 DAC recipients, for every 20 Of the 12 and a half million illegal immigrants in the country, one of them will identify as a Republican.

00:08:50.000 And this is why any kind of amnesty deal, any kind of legalization has to be thought about very, very carefully. 0.75

00:09:00.000 Because the kinds of people that are being brought over here, the kinds of people that will be given these privileges, like voting rights, like receiving welfare, these are not people that are going to be our friend.

00:09:11.000 These are not people that are going to support the country.

00:09:14.000 And think about.

00:09:15.000 What it means when we talk about Republican and Democrat.

00:09:17.000 We're not talking about party affiliation.

00:09:20.000 We're not talking about partisanship.

00:09:22.000 Of course, Republicans and Democrats means political parties, and it means how competitive we will be in the next election, and so on and so forth.

00:09:30.000 But think about what it really gets down into if we're talking about fundamentals.

00:09:35.000 What does it mean to be a Republican?

00:09:36.000 What does it mean to be a Democrat?

00:09:38.000 What does it mean to be a Democrat in 2018?

00:09:40.000 What are they for?

00:09:40.000 What do they stand for that the founding fathers stood for in 1776 or 1788?

00:09:47.000 What do the Democrats stand for that the people that fought in the Civil War fought for, or the people that fought in World War II fought for?

00:09:54.000 That party is unrecognizable.

00:09:56.000 The values that that party stands for are unrecognizable. 0.72

00:10:00.000 And if the constitution of the country, the constitution of the demographics of the country, is transformed in such a way that by 2050, 60% of the country, which is non white, will be voting for Democrats by a margin of 9 to 1, and the Democratic Party stands for values that were non existent 300 years ago, non existent. 0.65

00:10:21.000 200 years ago, even 50 or 60 years ago, what kind of country will we live in? 0.52

00:10:27.000 What will the texture of life be in the United States of America when we live under a one party state?

00:10:34.000 When the party that rules our country in the Senate and in the White House and in the House of Representatives and eventually in the Supreme Court, uncontested for decades, is a party that bears no resemblance to the people that founded the country.

00:10:47.000 What will life be like in the country?

00:10:49.000 These are the questions we have to ask ourselves.

00:10:51.000 And then, of course, we have to ask ourselves where did this all come from?

00:10:55.000 This didn't come out of a clear blue sky, right?

00:10:57.000 You know, people wonder okay, maybe this is why the Democrats want millions of illegal immigrants. 0.94

00:11:03.000 This is why they want illegal immigrants.

00:11:05.000 This is why they want a pathway to citizenship. 0.92

00:11:07.000 This is why they want regular, plain old mass immigration.

00:11:11.000 You know, forget about illegal for a second. 0.70

00:11:13.000 This is for a second.

00:11:15.000 This is why they want plain old legal immigration en masse by the millions.

00:11:19.000 And Republicans and Democrats. 0.80

00:11:21.000 Democrats want it for obvious reasons for the votes.

00:11:24.000 They would never lose the Senate, never lose the White House, never lose the House ever again if this continues. 0.79

00:11:32.000 If Hispanics are allowed to become a plurality, if whites are allowed to become the minority, and we're speaking just in terms of partisanship, and Republicans want it for the cheap labor. 0.80

00:11:42.000 But where did this all come from? 0.76

00:11:44.000 Where did it all go so wrong? 1.00

00:11:46.000 I think we all understand that there's a problem here, obviously, the fact that foreigners are going to be outvoting us. 1.00

00:11:52.000 I think that's, you know, before we even begin to look at the history of it or illegal versus legal, think about the fact that. 1.00

00:11:58.000 Foreigners are coming in here. 1.00

00:12:00.000 People who were not born in this country, people whose ancestors did not build the country, didn't build the railroads, didn't build the factories, didn't build the cars, didn't land on the moon, people that didn't fight and die in the wars. 1.00

00:12:11.000 They are going to be determining the future and the direction of the country.

00:12:15.000 They will be the ones ruling and governing and being represented.

00:12:18.000 I think that's number one.

00:12:19.000 That's the number one takeaway. 1.00

00:12:21.000 But we all recognize that even more broadly, the direction that we're looking in, whether or not we consider it a bad thing that foreigners are coming here, it is a bad thing. 1.00

00:12:31.000 That the foreigners are choosing this direction because the direction we're headed in is, like I said, one that is completely alien to the people that founded the country. 1.00

00:12:38.000 But where, of course, did it all come from? 0.99

00:12:41.000 We have to go back to the basics, and naturally, we revert back to the 1965 Immigration Act.

00:12:47.000 And here's why I bring this up I'll allude to it in a moment.

00:12:52.000 1965 Immigration Act, the Hart Cellar Immigration Act, was the most transformative law in America's history in terms of demographics.

00:13:03.000 You compare this with the 1792 Immigration Act, you compare this with the 1793 Immigration Act, the 1796 Immigration Act, the 1802 Immigration Law, the 1924 National Origins Quotas.

00:13:16.000 Nothing was more transformative to America's demographics as the 1965 Immigration Act.

00:13:22.000 And nobody's ever heard of it.

00:13:24.000 Doesn't that kind of tell you something?

00:13:25.000 Doesn't that set off some red flags?

00:13:27.000 That the most transformative law in our nation's history that pertains to demographics, the most important thing in a country is the people that constitute that country.

00:13:38.000 And that's the most transformative thing.

00:13:39.000 And most people have never heard of it.

00:13:41.000 And if they have, they don't know what's in it.

00:13:43.000 Maybe they have some vague idea that it transformed the country.

00:13:46.000 But people know nothing about it.

00:13:48.000 And that gets, I think, to the fundamental point, which is trying to be made, which is the fact that we never got a vote, never got a say so.

00:13:56.000 This Immigration Act went in.

00:13:58.000 You know, a couple of congressmen, a couple of senators cobbled this thing together.

00:14:02.000 And this transformed the country forever without going back, without there being a possibility of reversal.

00:14:09.000 And we never got a vote in the matter.

00:14:12.000 And this is something I talked about in the debate with Destiny.

00:14:15.000 And this is just a little bit before we get into what's in it.

00:14:18.000 I think we have to acknowledge the fact that it is really a travesty.

00:14:23.000 It is really a miscarriage of justice that in this so called democracy, in this so called representative democracy or republic, some of the most important reforms that have been passed, maybe the most important reform that has been passed, is something that nobody knows about.

00:14:39.000 And we never got a vote in.

00:14:40.000 But, you know, again, this is for starters.

00:14:41.000 There's so many things wrong with it, it's hard.

00:14:44.000 It's hard to pick a place to start, but I think that's a good one. 1.00

00:14:48.000 Well, into the 1965 Immigration Act, if we explore what has happened since it was passed, what were the promises that were made, maybe in the beginning?

00:14:57.000 If we look at immigration in 1960, a lot of people don't know this.

00:15:03.000 We hear all the time we're a nation of immigrants, right?

00:15:05.000 You know, we're the nation of immigrants, we're the melting pot.

00:15:08.000 And there was a lot of immigration from 1900 to 1965, but it was of a fundamentally different character than it has been since 1965.

00:15:17.000 In 1960, seven out of eight immigrants that came into this country were European.

00:15:24.000 Seven out of eight. 0.83

00:15:25.000 That's what?

00:15:26.000 87.5% of the immigrants coming into the country were from Europe, and most of them from Northwestern Europe.

00:15:34.000 These are people from England, these are people from Germany, people from Scandinavia, countries that work, in short, countries that speak English, many of them, countries that knew Christ, Christian countries, countries that had a tradition of liberty.

00:15:49.000 Political and economic liberty, countries that had a tradition of capitalism, of republicanism, democracy.

00:15:54.000 Even you could go back to medieval times, they had a tradition of monarchy, which is, of course, where many modern forms of government are derived.

00:16:02.000 So countries that are familiar.

00:16:04.000 Since 1965, nine out of ten immigrants are foreign born.

00:16:10.000 So imagine you go from 1960, 87.5% of immigrants come from Europe.

00:16:16.000 They come from a place that is familiar.

00:16:18.000 They come from a place where We share heritage.

00:16:21.000 Many of us share heritage where our institutions, our customs, our traditions have heritage.

00:16:26.000 Many of them are derived from the countries where the immigrants were coming from.

00:16:30.000 To after 1965, and 90% of immigrants are not from that place. 0.68

00:16:37.000 Isn't that an important thing?

00:16:38.000 Isn't that an important reform?

00:16:40.000 And we never got a vote.

00:16:41.000 We never got a say so.

00:16:42.000 Nobody ever told us this, by the way.

00:16:46.000 We were actually told by the people that sponsored this bill, by the people that wrote this bill, that it would do the exact opposite.

00:16:53.000 They told us explicitly, Ted Kennedy, who pushed this law, who was one of the major proponents of it, told us explicitly this would not increase dramatically the amount of immigrants.

00:17:05.000 It would not dramatically change the character of the immigrants coming in.

00:17:09.000 He told us that.

00:17:10.000 He said it wouldn't change the demographic makeup of the country and there wouldn't be that many of them. 0.86

00:17:15.000 And obviously, the opposite was true. 0.80

00:17:17.000 You go from near 90% Europeans to over 90% non Europeans, and we never got a vote. 0.92

00:17:24.000 In addition to that, the proportion of the country that is foreign born tripled.

00:17:28.000 So, not only did the constitution of the immigrants change, not only did the composition of the immigrants change, that they come from different countries, and that happens to be a very important thing.

00:17:38.000 If you imagine that people before were coming over here and there was some degree of assimilation, because if they came from England, very easy transition.

00:17:46.000 If they come from Germany or Italy or Scandinavia, a much easier transition than from Africa or from China, because we share heritage.

00:17:54.000 But you also imagine that not only is the composition of the immigrants changing, but the number of the immigrants is changing.

00:18:00.000 Whereas before, most of the population growth, a lot of people don't know this either, most of the population growth from 1860 to 1900, and that was a significant amount of the population growth in our country's history, it was domestic.

00:18:15.000 It was a result of people in this country having lots of babies, not from immigration.

00:18:19.000 So not only did the composition change, but also the amount change.

00:18:22.000 And that was the other lie that Ted Kennedy said.

00:18:25.000 Not only would The demographic makeup not changed, but also we wouldn't be overrun and overwhelmed by many immigrants.

00:18:32.000 Obviously, that wasn't true.

00:18:33.000 The proportion of foreign born people in the country tripled, tripled in 50 years.

00:18:40.000 And here's a nice little section I read from The Atlantic on the 1965 Immigration Act.

00:18:45.000 This is from The Atlantic, which is a pretty left leaning paper.

00:18:48.000 You know, I like some of their stuff, it's pretty nuanced, but it tends to lean left when they do opinion.

00:18:53.000 This is a direct quote from The Atlantic about the Immigration Act of 1965.

00:18:59.000 This is from the 60s, and so keep that in mind if you think it's a little bit prescient.

00:19:03.000 It says, quote, opponents of the reform proposal had argued that the United States was fundamentally a European country and should stay that way.

00:19:13.000 Imagine that.

00:19:14.000 Quote, the people of Ethiopia have the same right to come to the United States under this bill, the 65 Immigration Act, as the people from England, the people of France, the people of Germany, and the people of Holland, complained Senator Sam Irvin, a Democrat from North Carolina.

00:19:31.000 Quote, with all due respect to Ethiopia, I don't know of any contributions that Ethiopia has made to the making of America.

00:19:40.000 End quote.

00:19:40.000 The critics highlighted population pressures in the developing world and predicted that the United States would find itself.

00:19:47.000 Inundated by desperate migrants from poverty stricken countries.

00:19:52.000 Huh.

00:19:53.000 Imagine that.

00:19:54.000 Imagine that.

00:19:55.000 They were concerned about what?

00:19:57.000 Illiterate peasants pouring across the border from developing countries like Mexico, continents like Africa, or Southeast Asia? 0.59

00:20:05.000 You know, imagine that. 0.99

00:20:06.000 And I think that says it all right there.

00:20:08.000 The question fundamentally is a matter of identity.

00:20:13.000 The opponents of this law, even in 1965, said this is a European country.

00:20:19.000 In culture, in tradition, in custom, politically, economically, and it should stay that way.

00:20:25.000 And note the quote from the Democrat from North Carolina.

00:20:28.000 There's a lot of quotes you could pull from Democrats in the South in the 1960s which are not flattering.

00:20:34.000 You could pull a lot of quotes from that time which people might call regressive, which people might call bigoted, which people might call prejudiced.

00:20:42.000 But what this senator is saying is not controversial, is not racist.

00:20:47.000 He's simply saying that Ethiopians. 0.89

00:20:49.000 The people that are supposed to be pouring into the country and remaking the country demographically, they had no part in the making of this country. 0.98

00:20:58.000 Not in the construction of it economically, not in the fight for it in times of war, not in the construction of it politically in the 18th century or the settlement of it in the 17th century.

00:21:10.000 Nothing racist about that at all.

00:21:11.000 And fundamentally, the debate in the 1960s was about is this a country that is European, that is Christian, that is English Protestant in character as the settlement?

00:21:22.000 In the northeastern United States was, or northeastern North America was in the 17th century?

00:21:27.000 Or is this the boarding house, the orphanage of the world's poor, the boarding house of the desperate, the poor, the illiterate masses?

00:21:38.000 And the funny thing is about this Immigration Act is there was never a debate about that.

00:21:42.000 There was never a vote about that.

00:21:44.000 And there was never a decision made about that.

00:21:46.000 There was just a law passed.

00:21:49.000 Nobody ever came on television.

00:21:51.000 Nobody ever gave a speech on the floor of the Senate resolving this question.

00:21:56.000 Nobody said, well, we've come to the consensus that this is going to be a European country, or we've come to the consensus that this will be a country for all peoples, you know, a multi ethnic, multi racial, multi religious country with no dominant culture.

00:22:11.000 That decision was never made, but simply the law was passed and the unintended consequences ensued.

00:22:17.000 And this is why you see the kinds of politics that we see today.

00:22:22.000 This is why you see the rise of identitarianism.

00:22:25.000 This is why you see the rise of the alt right and the alt left.

00:22:29.000 This fundamental question, as stated in the Atlantic, about what America is.

00:22:34.000 Is it a European country?

00:22:36.000 Is it a Christian country?

00:22:38.000 Is it an English Protestant country, as it was for hundreds of years?

00:22:42.000 Or is it this multi ethnic mix up of all the different peoples of the world?

00:22:48.000 And the reason, the driver of all this immigration, was actually a very interesting provision.

00:22:54.000 When they were debating the 1965 Immigration Act, there was much debate about whether immigration would be given to, or, you know, the visas and immigration preference would be given towards people with marketable skills, people with skills that would benefit the United States, a merit based system, or whether it would be determined based on family, family reunification.

00:23:15.000 And it's funny because the proponents of the merit based system were seen as the proponents of the multi ethnic country.

00:23:21.000 They said, let's give immigration, let's give.

00:23:24.000 Citizenship to people that have skills that will benefit the country.

00:23:27.000 And people said, well, that'll open the door to all kinds of people.

00:23:31.000 And the people that proposed a system based on family reunification, these were the people in support of the European country because when the immigration previously was 90% European, it would follow that if the immigration policy was based on reunification, all the European immigrants would bring over their brothers and sisters and fathers and mothers and relatives.

00:23:52.000 But in fact, as we know now, the opposite happened.

00:23:55.000 The millions of Hispanics and Asians and Africans were here.

00:23:58.000 They brought the multitude with them.

00:24:00.000 They brought with them their extended family and their many brothers and sisters.

00:24:04.000 And so it's a little bit ironic in the actual provisions there that that was the case.

00:24:07.000 And this is where we arrive to today.

00:24:10.000 This is where we arrive finally to our modern day immigration policy.

00:24:15.000 What is up for debate in the Senate and in the House are these provisions chain migration.

00:24:20.000 Chain migration is the family unification policy, the diversity visa lottery, which is essentially what.

00:24:26.000 The chain migration, the family unification ended up being, you know, but the diversity visa is separate. 0.95

00:24:32.000 And the wall, the wall which will bridge us off from illegal immigrants.

00:24:37.000 And so, what has to be decided in this country, not by a law being passed in the dead of night, lies being spread about it, unintended consequences, is that we have to have a consensus in this country about who we are as Americans. 0.99

00:24:52.000 What does it mean to be an American?

00:24:54.000 Is it a piece of paper that you come over here and you sign if you marry somebody who is a citizen?

00:25:00.000 Is it a piece of paper that is afforded to your kid if someone's simply born on the land?

00:25:05.000 Or is it something more?

00:25:06.000 Is it a tradition?

00:25:07.000 Is it a culture, a custom?

00:25:09.000 Is there an element of blood, of hereditary identity there as well?

00:25:14.000 That has to be decided, or else this will never get finished, or else this is a fight that will rage on for decades and generations and centuries and could very well end in violence if this is not resolved.

00:25:25.000 So there has to be a consensus built on that.

00:25:28.000 And whether you err on the side of European identity, Western identity, something that's a little bit more concrete than the civic nationalist identity of paperwork or vice versa.

00:25:40.000 I think, regardless of that, regardless of whether you want to end chain migration and in doing so, affirm America as an identity of soil and something a little bit more, maybe blood and soil, or maybe something beyond that, traditions and customs and a greater legacy than just the paperwork.

00:25:58.000 I think, regardless of your take on chain migration and diversity visa, you have to acknowledge that the wall has to be there.

00:26:04.000 In the present immigration debate, I think the starting point on that conversation, because that's a very heavy conversation, that's one where there is a lot of disagreement and very fundamental disagreement on what it means to be an American. 0.92

00:26:18.000 The starting place must necessarily be illegal immigration.

00:26:23.000 And this is why President Trump was so brilliant when he started out his campaign in fixating on the most egregious examples of illegal immigration.

00:26:31.000 Because you think about it, you come to the average American citizen. 0.52

00:26:36.000 In 2013 or 2014, when political correctness police are still in full force, and you say to them, Is this country a European Christian country or is this a country for everybody?

00:26:47.000 Odds are most people will tell you, This is a country for everybody, it's a nation of immigrants.

00:26:51.000 Even Paul Ryan would tell you that. 0.92

00:26:52.000 Paul Ryan would tell you, you know, no, the Hispanics are even better than the people here. 0.92

00:26:56.000 Bill Crystal would tell you the same thing. 1.00

00:26:58.000 So it's right and left.

00:27:00.000 But Donald Trump did something very strategic. 0.78

00:27:02.000 In 2015, when he announced his candidacy, he started with illegal immigration and he also started with the worst of the illegal immigrants. 0.98

00:27:09.000 He started with drug dealers, rapists, and murderers. 1.00

00:27:14.000 And this was a strategic starting point.

00:27:16.000 And people might say maybe that is manipulative, but I think it really lays bare what the division is.

00:27:24.000 He said, You have people in this country who they did not fight in the wars.

00:27:28.000 They did not build the factories and the monuments and so on.

00:27:32.000 They came across the border. 0.83

00:27:33.000 They exploit the system.

00:27:34.000 And on top of that, not only did they break their laws, not only did they break our laws and come here and they exploit the system, but then they come here and they kill.

00:27:44.000 They kill American citizens who pay taxes, who their ancestors were here. 0.94

00:27:49.000 And they rape Americans who pay taxes and were here. 0.98

00:27:52.000 And they deal drugs and they corrupt the youth of this country. 0.98

00:27:55.000 And so that was a very interesting angle that he came at it.

00:27:57.000 From an angle where everybody could understand where he's coming from, where they could say, you know what?

00:28:03.000 Maybe I sympathize with legal immigrants.

00:28:05.000 Maybe I sympathize with the dreamers. 0.99

00:28:07.000 Maybe I sympathize with immigrants. 1.00

00:28:09.000 But that is not right. 1.00

00:28:10.000 There is something not right about that foreigners come over here, they flout our laws, they flagrant our laws, and then on top of that, they commit egregious crimes against people, and they shouldn't have even been in the country. 1.00

00:28:22.000 And so that was the conversation starter. 1.00

00:28:24.000 And people start to see where it comes from.

00:28:27.000 And this gets to the wall.

00:28:28.000 The wall, which is the solution to illegal immigration, the wall plus the border agents and the ICE agents, which is in Trump's budget, which he's proposed earlier this week. 0.93

00:28:37.000 And I put together a little illustration, a little infographic here to show everybody just how ridiculous it is that we continue to allow illegal immigrants in this country and why not every single congressman is standing for the wall. 0.84

00:28:52.000 Every single one of them should be standing. 1.00

00:28:55.000 And here's why.

00:28:56.000 Let me show you.

00:28:57.000 We're going to do a little whiteboard nationalism here.

00:29:01.000 People tell me, Nick, Nick, are you a white nationalist?

00:29:04.000 I say, no, I'm a white board nationalist.

00:29:06.000 I'm a white board nationalist.

00:29:10.000 We're not white supremacists.

00:29:12.000 We're white board supremacists.

00:29:14.000 And here's your infographic here.

00:29:17.000 This is using numbers from FAIR.

00:29:21.000 FAIR is the Federation of American Immigration Reform.

00:29:25.000 And so I'm using the numbers from there.

00:29:27.000 They estimate that there are 12.5 illegal immigrants in the country and 4.5 million illegal immigrants.

00:29:34.000 Citizen children of illegal immigrants.

00:29:36.000 So, what is that? 0.88

00:29:37.000 17 million in total, illegal and their citizen children.

00:29:41.000 And using those numbers, they estimated how much money per year illegal immigrants are costing the American taxpayer.

00:29:49.000 And they came down to $116 billion per year. 0.72

00:29:53.000 $116 billion.

00:29:55.000 And people might say, oh, well, Nick, what about taxes?

00:29:59.000 The left might say, well, Nick, illegal immigrants pay taxes, they pay sales tax, they pay other taxes. 0.88

00:30:06.000 If it's costing $116 billion, they're paying at least that in taxes wrong. 0.95

00:30:10.000 $116 billion is after taxes are taken into account. 0.98

00:30:14.000 If you look at the numbers, illegal immigrants actually cost us in total $135 billion. 0.91

00:30:21.000 But if you subtract the taxes paid, which is $19 billion, only then do you arrive at your $116. 1.00

00:30:27.000 So the $116 billion number is pretty solid.

00:30:30.000 It's pretty hard, though, to conceptualize what $116 billion looks like.

00:30:35.000 So I contrasted it with The increases in Trump's budget, which we talked about yesterday.

00:30:40.000 And the biggest items which he added to the budget for this fiscal year were the $80 billion that is pumped into defense as a result of ending the defense sequester, which began during the Obama administration, the $18 billion for the wall, and the $17 billion for health and human services to combat the opioid epidemic.

00:31:05.000 And so it's pretty clear.

00:31:06.000 It's pretty clear.

00:31:07.000 You add up all the numbers on the major items in Trump's new budget.

00:31:10.000 Which are things for Americans, defending Americans with the military, building our wall to keep illegal immigrants out, and having more money to fight the opioid epidemic.

00:31:21.000 And that is still $1 billion short of the annual cost of illegal immigration in every state $116 billion per year.

00:31:32.000 That pays for everything and then some that Trump proposed in his new budget, including the wall.

00:31:37.000 And the wall is a one time purchase.

00:31:39.000 So, you know, and that's to say, in the first place, when Chuck Schumer and the Democrats say, We have to pay for the wall.

00:31:47.000 Donald Trump said Mexico would pay for it.

00:31:48.000 I don't really care.

00:31:50.000 I think Mexico will pay for it and it would be nice.

00:31:52.000 But regardless, anybody who has a concern about the wall that is, it costs money.

00:31:56.000 It costs too much money or it shouldn't cost any money at all.

00:31:59.000 Compare the $18 billion the wall would cost, this little purple slab, to the giant red marker annually that illegal immigration costs.

00:32:09.000 This is a one time cost. 0.66

00:32:11.000 This is annually.

00:32:12.000 And then on top of that, you have to ask yourself.

00:32:16.000 If this is costing us, the American taxpayer, $100 billion per year, you factor that into the deficit, you factor that into the debt, you factor that into things we cannot pay for, you consider the cost, not only in we're paying another $100 billion, but in terms of things we cannot buy with that money, defense, things for our young people to combat the opioid epidemic, things for infrastructure, then you really start to understand the cost of illegal immigration.

00:32:41.000 And there is not a single person who can make a convincing argument, not a single person on planet Earth.

00:32:47.000 Who can make a convincing argument from a fiscal standpoint that illegal immigration is justified?

00:32:53.000 That building a wall should be anything but an absolute necessity, unquestionable, undebatable.

00:33:00.000 And so there it is.

00:33:01.000 There's the illustration pretty clear illegal immigration versus budget items.

00:33:05.000 Just let this image sink in of just how much this costs in terms of brass tacks.

00:33:11.000 A hundred and some billion dollars.

00:33:13.000 That's a net worth of Bill Gates.

00:33:15.000 That's a net worth of Jeff Bezos every year. 0.98

00:33:18.000 For people that shouldn't even be in the country who rape and kill and sell drugs. 0.71

00:33:23.000 And so that's a nice little visual.

00:33:25.000 But, you know, I don't think we should even be arguing it from the fiscal.

00:33:29.000 The only reason I bring it up is because so often that's the refrain from the left is, well, the wall costs money or illegal immigrants have this economic effect. 0.76

00:33:38.000 They contribute to the GDP or they pay taxes. 0.89

00:33:40.000 And it is just simply the farthest thing in the world from the truth.

00:33:45.000 You know, not only do they not contribute, but they're actually this massive net negative and they shouldn't even be here.

00:33:50.000 But, Beyond that, I don't even think it should ever get to that point.

00:33:54.000 I don't even think the debate should ever get to the fiscal. 1.00

00:33:57.000 Maybe you have mass immigration with legal immigrants. 1.00

00:34:00.000 I would absolutely be against that. 1.00

00:34:02.000 But there's a debate to be had.

00:34:04.000 Is this country going to be a country for all immigrants from all over the world?

00:34:09.000 I certainly think that is a debate that should be had in the country because many people believe that it is. 0.97

00:34:14.000 But nobody can justify the fact that we have 12 million people here who came here by breaking our laws and continue to violate our laws. 0.99

00:34:23.000 That's immigration basically from start to finish. 1.00

00:34:26.000 That's the 65th Immigration Act.

00:34:28.000 That's legal immigration, illegal immigration, the voting rights.

00:34:32.000 And it all comes down to identity.

00:34:34.000 It all comes down to, and you can pick apart the fiscal, you can pick apart these statistics and this and that, but really what it comes down to is that question, which was asked in that Atlantic article in 1965 what is the identity of the country?

00:34:50.000 And until we figure that out, we won't have immigration policies that will advance those goals.

00:34:55.000 It will continue to be very contentious, increasingly violent, increasingly have these tensions festering, and it has to be resolved.

00:35:04.000 But so that's the case.

00:35:05.000 Against DACA.

00:35:06.000 We'll see what happens.

00:35:07.000 You know, the deal that President Trump laid out in the State of the Union was amnesty, a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million dreamers, 1.8 million dreamers in 10 years.

00:35:19.000 So it's 690,000 DACA recipients.

00:35:22.000 And he says that in 10 years, the 1.8 million dreamers that are eligible for DACA may be eligible for citizenship.

00:35:30.000 Of course, there would be a work requirement, an education requirement.

00:35:34.000 They can't have committed a crime.

00:35:36.000 And also, there's a good character requirement.

00:35:37.000 So Probably not all 1.8 million that would be eligible would be getting citizenship, probably half or a lot less.

00:35:44.000 But still, that's what we're talking about when we talk about amnesty this kind of stuff.

00:35:48.000 You're talking about people that 10% of them will vote for Republicans.

00:35:52.000 And I saw on Hannity the other day, he brought on a DACA recipient who said, I'm a Trump supporter now.

00:35:57.000 I vote for Trump.

00:35:58.000 Okay, well, there's your 1 in 10.

00:36:00.000 There's your 1 in 20, right?

00:36:02.000 But so that's the first piece of President Trump's deal the pathway to citizenship for the 1.8 million.

00:36:08.000 And we'll see what happens with that.

00:36:10.000 And then the other three provisions are obviously ending chain migration, ending the diversity visa lottery system, and building the wall.

00:36:18.000 Now, early estimates about those cuts to immigration say that in about 15 or 10 or 15 years, immigration will be cut, legal immigration will be cut by upwards of 7 million if this law is passed, if this deal is made.

00:36:34.000 And for that reason, as hesitant as I am to support any kind of deal which gives citizenship, Any kind of deal which gives amnesty, you have to look at it in terms of pure numbers.

00:36:46.000 If 7 million less immigrants are coming in, citizens and their children are not coming in.

00:36:52.000 And in exchange for that, you have to give half of 1.8 in their kids.

00:36:56.000 This is simply arithmetic.

00:36:58.000 And we'll see what happens with the deal.

00:37:00.000 We would have to see what those education requirements look like, the work requirements, the good character requirements.

00:37:05.000 And we would have to see that every provision in this deal is followed to I think that's the biggest concern with people.

00:37:14.000 That's the biggest reason people don't want to give concessions.

00:37:18.000 Because it sounds nice on paper. 0.96

00:37:19.000 Seven million less legal immigrants in 10 to 15 years sounds great on paper. 0.99

00:37:24.000 The wall sounds great on paper.

00:37:25.000 $18 billion for that and 2,000 ICE agents and 750 border patrol and 75 judges.

00:37:31.000 Sounds great on paper.

00:37:33.000 Problem is, is that going to be enforced?

00:37:35.000 Are we ever going to see that?

00:37:36.000 You know, with Ronald Reagan under the Simpson Mazzoli Act in 1986, we saw the amnesty.

00:37:42.000 Didn't see the border security.

00:37:43.000 So, whatever the deal ends up being, if that deal ends up getting done, I would support it if we see, number one, that everything in the deal is solidified and followed to the letter of the law.

00:37:55.000 We have to have faith and certainty and trust and an assurance that everything in there will be followed through, or else we can never support it.

00:38:04.000 I don't care how favorable the numbers are.

00:38:06.000 If there's no assurance that it'll be followed through, even if there's a Democrat administration, even if there's two Democratic administrations, you can't support it.

00:38:14.000 There has to be assurances.

00:38:15.000 That's number one.

00:38:17.000 Number two, we have to see what the requirements look like for citizenship.

00:38:22.000 If it's pretty loose, if the judiciary system is going to be able to expand the definition and really go to town on this and say, well, actually, all 3 million dreamers are going to get citizenship, then we can't have it either.

00:38:35.000 If it's 1.8 million eligible, it has to be 1.8 million eligible.

00:38:39.000 And then there have to be requirements on top of that.

00:38:42.000 So we would have to see that into law.

00:38:44.000 And then in terms of the cuts to the diversity visa, the chain migration, the wall, we have to make sure that that is everything that it says it is, specifically in terms of the wall.

00:38:53.000 This has to be the $18 billion wall that Trump promised in January, that the White House laid out.

00:38:59.000 That it has to be continuous.

00:39:01.000 It has to be more than 10 feet tall.

00:39:03.000 It has to be concrete.

00:39:05.000 It has to be at least 1,000 miles long.

00:39:07.000 You know, it can't be this $2.7 billion fence that he was talking about in January.

00:39:11.000 I think if we saw all of those things come through on this deal, I think it's something that we could definitely consider.

00:39:18.000 I think if we saw that all of those considerations, all those expectations were met and met convincingly.

00:39:25.000 And met to a point where we are certain that it'll be carried through and it'll benefit us in terms of reversing 65.

00:39:31.000 I think this is a good deal.

00:39:33.000 And, you know, the pressure is there to make it happen.

00:39:35.000 I don't think you'll get this kind of a situation anytime soon.

00:39:39.000 Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican administration that's serious about ending legal and illegal immigration in a significant way.

00:39:48.000 I don't think the stars align like this in the near future.

00:39:50.000 And especially now with the kind of pressure on Democrats.

00:39:54.000 You know, what happens in 2018?

00:39:55.000 What if we lose the House?

00:39:56.000 What if we lose the Senate?

00:39:57.000 What happens in the next three months if we lose our pressure on Democrats?

00:40:00.000 Who's going to get in in 2020?

00:40:02.000 Can we be 100% certain that Donald Trump gets back in?

00:40:05.000 Can we be 100% certain that he even wins the primary?

00:40:08.000 Can we be certain that the next president isn't totally, isn't not totally an amnesty, wild, egalitarian kind of a person?

00:40:17.000 I don't think there's any guarantee of that. 0.62

00:40:19.000 So, you know, for all these people that say, you know, we can never make a deal, we can never compromise, we can never give citizenship to any illegal immigrants, I'm with you. 0.93

00:40:28.000 I'm with you in theory. 0.70

00:40:29.000 But in practice, it's a lot more difficult.

00:40:31.000 You'll be no different than the constitutional conservatives that are holding up their little document as their country sinks into the depths of the multitude, into the unwashed masses.

00:40:43.000 You know, well, at least we never cucked on citizenship. 0.87

00:40:45.000 At least we never cucked on DACA, they say, as the next administration takes power and opens up the floodgates to millions more legal and illegal immigrants.

00:40:54.000 So I think we have to be very practical.

00:40:56.000 We have to be very pragmatic about how we think about any potential deal. 0.73

00:41:01.000 And so that's immigration. 0.87

00:41:02.000 It looks like we're coming up on the 45 minute mark.

00:41:05.000 I wanted to get into the Jeff Sessions Anglo American comments, but it doesn't look like we're going to have time for that.

00:41:11.000 And that was kind of a minor thing anyway.

00:41:13.000 So let's get into our super chats.

00:41:15.000 We'll see what people are saying.

00:41:16.000 Am I cucking?

00:41:18.000 People are going to get in the live chat, they'll get in the comments. 1.00

00:41:21.000 There was this one guy in the Discord, in the last America First Discord, all these people are talking shit about me, saying, Nick is cucking on DACA. 1.00

00:41:31.000 We can never allow a single illegal immigrant in the country. 0.99

00:41:34.000 And I would just say, you know, show me how else it happens. 1.00

00:41:37.000 Show me how else we get the majorities in both houses.

00:41:40.000 Show me where we get the leadership from the White House.

00:41:42.000 Show me where we get the pressure on the Democrats.

00:41:45.000 Show me where we get the pressure on the mainstream media.

00:41:47.000 It doesn't happen, it doesn't happen often.

00:41:50.000 There's no guarantee it'll ever happen again in our lifetimes or the next.

00:41:56.000 So if this is the worst deal, I think it's a nice thing.

00:42:00.000 But, you know, all those conditions have to be met, as stated before.

00:42:04.000 But let's see.

00:42:05.000 What's being said in the live chat?

00:42:07.000 The super chats here.

00:42:09.000 Simon Skola says Tree of Logic wants to debate you on Israel.

00:42:14.000 She's probably the only person more pro Israel than Jacob Wolf.

00:42:17.000 Please do it. 0.50

00:42:18.000 I'll debate her.

00:42:19.000 I'll debate anybody on Israel, anytime, anyplace. 0.86

00:42:23.000 I will debate every last Zionist until there are none left except for Ben Shapiro. 0.87

00:42:28.000 I will debate every single one, no matter how small or big, old or young, whether they're Jewish or black or white or purple. 0.97

00:42:37.000 I will debate every last one. 0.77

00:42:39.000 I will keep talking about the USS Liberty, the Levon affair, and the Apollo affair, and how many scandals until little Ben comes around and we can finally have the biblical confrontation. 0.60

00:42:52.000 ISIS talks about the biblical confrontation between Christians and Muslims in Syria, in Dabiq, which is a field in Syria. 0.70

00:43:01.000 The Catholic version of that is when the Talmudic Ben Shapiro Zionists come on the battlefield. 0.80

00:43:08.000 They come on America first and debate the Catholics over Israel, right?

00:43:13.000 Ben Weber, please link the Discord in the chats.

00:43:16.000 I'll hook you up right now.

00:43:19.000 Let's pull it up here.

00:43:20.000 I don't have my keyboard.

00:43:21.000 I think it's all the way over there.

00:43:23.000 Let me pull it up here.

00:43:24.000 I think I don't even need it.

00:43:25.000 Yes.

00:43:25.000 So let's pull up the live chat.

00:43:28.000 I'll post it up in there.

00:43:30.000 And there you go.

00:43:31.000 There's your Discord link.

00:43:33.000 Thomas Jefferson, Nick, love you.

00:43:36.000 Love you too, my guy.

00:43:38.000 Can you do some sort of contest or promotion and the winners get a book called The Case for Christ?

00:43:44.000 I'll buy them.

00:43:45.000 If so, where can I email you to set this up? 0.93

00:43:49.000 Former atheist turned Christian.

00:43:51.000 That's a great idea.

00:43:52.000 And, you know, I'll go in.

00:43:52.000 I would love to do that.

00:43:54.000 I'll go in halfway with you.

00:43:55.000 I don't want to, you know, it seems a little cheap.

00:43:57.000 I know they're only like, what are they, 10 bucks a pop?

00:43:59.000 I only got mine pretty recently.

00:44:01.000 But yeah, I'd really go half in on you for those.

00:44:04.000 But email me, njfuentes, F U E N T E S, blog, B L O G, at gmail.com, if you want to email for me to coordinate that.

00:44:14.000 But that's a great idea.

00:44:15.000 That's a great book that everybody should read because it lays out, in terms of historiography, the case for Christ, the case that Jesus Christ was a real.

00:44:26.000 Historical person that existed was crucified and rose again.

00:44:30.000 And if people understand that that happened, it's hard to deny everything else, right?

00:44:36.000 If you basically are convinced that Jesus Christ rose from the dead, how do you not believe that not only is he the Son of God, but that everything he said was true?

00:44:45.000 I mean, that's the proof.

00:44:46.000 The proof is in the pudding, or rather, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say.

00:44:51.000 So, yeah, email me and we'll set that up.

00:44:54.000 That's a great idea.

00:44:56.000 Ian Weber, talking about the Hart-Celler Act gave me dark flashbacks to the debate with destiny.

00:45:02.000 Do you think it could ever be repealed in less than 50 years?

00:45:05.000 It's not a matter of being repealed.

00:45:07.000 It's a matter of just changing the system.

00:45:08.000 You know, we should have something like the national origins quotas of the 1924 Immigration Act.

00:45:15.000 And that wouldn't require a repeal.

00:45:16.000 That would just require another law.

00:45:18.000 And I think there would be vast support for that if it were properly mobilized, if it were properly channeled. 0.91

00:45:24.000 And something else about Hispanics, They're not wild about mass immigration.

00:45:28.000 I don't know if you know this, but if you talk to Hispanics down in Texas, down in certain parts of Florida, they themselves are not thrilled about illegal immigration and also even mass legal immigration.

00:45:39.000 So I think that's something we could mobilize support for if we got serious, but we have to get serious about electoral politics. 0.59

00:45:47.000 Every time we have one of these self indulgent masturbatory rallies in Tennessee or Charlottesville where we show up and Mike Enoch does his Roman salute. 0.52

00:45:58.000 And we wave the Nazi flag.

00:46:00.000 Every time we do that, it puts us two steps backwards in terms of repealing things like the 1965 Immigration Act. 0.77

00:46:07.000 Think about that, because that's what comes next.

00:46:10.000 That's what has to happen.

00:46:11.000 And every time we do these little things that hurt our chances of winning elections, we set ourselves up for failure in that arena.

00:46:18.000 Has to change.

00:46:19.000 There has to be real leadership there.

00:46:21.000 But I think it absolutely could.

00:46:23.000 In 50 years, absolutely doable.

00:46:26.000 Look at what was possible in three years.

00:46:28.000 We went from amnesty under Barack Obama.

00:46:32.000 We went from complete and total amnesty and mass immigration. 0.50

00:46:36.000 And in three years, we're talking about getting rid of chain migration, getting rid of the diversity visa lottery, and building a wall between the United States and Mexico. 0.81

00:46:45.000 That took two years for us to go from, yeah, give them all amnesty to let us construct a Physical concrete barrier between the United States and Mexico. 0.79

00:46:54.000 Incredible.

00:46:56.000 And at the rate at which things are going now, anything is possible.

00:47:01.000 But we have to get serious.

00:47:03.000 Jumping Jack Flash, it's hard to hear you when you put the whiteboard in front of the mic.

00:47:07.000 Yeah, sorry about that.

00:47:09.000 Second night in a row, you've done this.

00:47:10.000 Clean up your act, Nick.

00:47:12.000 Pretty tough, Neg.

00:47:13.000 I turned up the gain.

00:47:14.000 You should be able to hear it.

00:47:15.000 Turn up the volume on your computer, all right?

00:47:19.000 But I understand.

00:47:20.000 You know, when I get my new desk, I'm looking at getting a new desk in the coming weeks.

00:47:20.000 I understand.

00:47:25.000 I'll have to have some kind of an easel where I can prop it up in a little bit more of a natural way.

00:47:30.000 But it's part of the charm.

00:47:31.000 It's part of the charm of the show.

00:47:34.000 We don't have all the fancy equipment.

00:47:36.000 We don't have the fancy mics and earphones.

00:47:39.000 It's part of the charm of the show.

00:47:40.000 You know that I'm not being paid off by the deep state or the government or the Israelis or whatever.

00:47:48.000 You know that it's just some guy bringing it to you fresh and hot, bringing it to you raw and hot, right?

00:47:56.000 When there's those little technical glitches.

00:47:57.000 It's part of the charm of the show.

00:47:59.000 Very earnest.

00:48:00.000 Ian Weber, could you please source those statistics from the whiteboard for legitimacy and for us to use ourselves in arguments?

00:48:08.000 If Pew, what did you look up?

00:48:11.000 So, Pew, let me pull it up here.

00:48:14.000 I'm not sure if I linked it in the.

00:48:17.000 I'll tweet it out after the show if you're really interested in it.

00:48:21.000 But, Pew, you can just look up Hispanic immigrant voting patterns.

00:48:26.000 You can look that up for the Pew statistics. 0.99

00:48:28.000 And for the illegal immigrant, the cost of it is fair. 1.00

00:48:33.000 The Federation on American Immigration Reform did a big report about the cost of illegal immigrants. 0.96

00:48:37.000 So, if you just look up fair cost of illegal immigration, it should come up. 0.95

00:48:43.000 And these are great statistics.

00:48:45.000 I'll link these after the show on Twitter because it is important and it's good to cite.

00:48:50.000 Reformed Bugman says Every day without Nick, James drifts further and further from God. 0.79

00:48:57.000 He now has a degenerate homosexual writing for his website. 0.96

00:49:01.000 Who's writing for his website? 1.00

00:49:02.000 They started letting homosexuals write? 1.00

00:49:05.000 For AmericaFirstMedia.com, how far they have fallen. 1.00

00:49:09.000 Well, and that's what happens when you compromise with the devil.

00:49:13.000 Mises said, when fighting evil, never give up and actually turn and fight more boldly against it.

00:49:20.000 He said, never give in to evil and actually turn and more boldly against it.

00:49:24.000 It's actually called tu ne sede malis, is the Latin phrase that he used.

00:49:29.000 But that's what happens when you give in to the evil, right? 1.00

00:49:31.000 That's what happens when you're a cultural Christian. 1.00

00:49:33.000 You push for white Shinto, you know. 1.00

00:49:36.000 Okay, chopsticks, that'll work out, right? 1.00

00:49:39.000 But no, I don't want to hit James too hard.

00:49:41.000 Every time I talk about James on this show, I get people on Gab bitching at me.

00:49:47.000 Nick, you need to stop the drama with James.

00:49:49.000 You need to stop the childish drama with James. 1.00

00:49:52.000 Shut up. 0.99

00:49:53.000 You know, I say a couple of things towards the end. 0.99

00:49:55.000 People ask me about it.

00:49:57.000 I answer it.

00:49:58.000 Not a big deal, but people always give me all kinds of grief about it.

00:50:02.000 So I'll refrain from talking any further about the James situation.

00:50:06.000 You know, he's going to do his thing.

00:50:07.000 I'm going to do mine.

00:50:08.000 I think it's pretty clear to everybody who's really right wing when you have that kind of thing going on.

00:50:12.000 I mean, think of the people that came after me in the past four or five months.

00:50:18.000 People say, I'm the troublemaker, I'm the divider, I'm the counter signaler.

00:50:23.000 Think about who has come after me in the past five months. 1.00

00:50:26.000 With few exceptions, it has been thoughts, degenerates, homosexuals, atheists. 0.99

00:50:33.000 These are the people that come and attack me. 0.96

00:50:35.000 And I'm the problem in the movement?

00:50:37.000 How are you going to have a movement that's forged by people who don't acknowledge the influence of certain people, people that don't acknowledge the divinity of Jesus Christ, people that don't acknowledge The need for religion or the tradition of Christianity in this civilization.

00:50:52.000 People who give in to degenerate sexual practices.

00:50:55.000 You know, is the alt hype, is Ryan Falk going to lead you into battle when he's on camera doing unspeakable acts?

00:51:02.000 Really?

00:51:03.000 These are the moral paragons?

00:51:06.000 I don't think so.

00:51:07.000 You know, and look, that's not to say that I'm perfect.

00:51:11.000 That's not to say that we are perfect or we are beyond sin.

00:51:15.000 As Jesus Christ said, let He.

00:51:17.000 Who is without sin cast the first stone.

00:51:19.000 And he also said, you know, before you worry about the, what did he say, about the twig in somebody else's eye, focus on the plank in your own eye.

00:51:27.000 And I get that.

00:51:28.000 However, we on this side do not rationalize it.

00:51:31.000 We do not justify it.

00:51:33.000 When we see degeneracy, we don't say, that's fine.

00:51:36.000 There are propagandists.

00:51:38.000 They're on our team.

00:51:39.000 We say, no, no, no, no.

00:51:40.000 That cannot be allowed to be normative.

00:51:43.000 And so somebody like Greg Johnson can come in our movement as long as it's understood that that is not normative behavior.

00:51:49.000 This is not the model going forward.

00:51:51.000 But over there, they say, no, it's fine.

00:51:53.000 It's not actually an anti feminist movement.

00:51:55.000 It's not actually a Christian movement. 0.99

00:51:57.000 And that we cannot have. 0.97

00:51:59.000 Normativity.

00:51:59.000 That's the operative phrase there.

00:52:02.000 Frederick White, Syrian mosquito zappers zap Jewish interlopers. 0.99

00:52:07.000 Yeah, well, it's heating up over there. 0.99

00:52:11.000 Looks like the Jewish airstrike was the least worrisome.

00:52:15.000 The American airstrike in Syria killed over 100 Russian mercenaries.

00:52:20.000 Pretty spooky stuff.

00:52:21.000 But, uh, Yeah, it was nice to see because Israel had been doing those airstrikes for how many months, going in there and bombing stuff and missile strikes and airstrikes.

00:52:31.000 And I don't know.

00:52:32.000 Was it about time for that?

00:52:33.000 Who knows? 0.98

00:52:34.000 You know, they're always meddling in everybody else's affairs.

00:52:37.000 Frederick White, if one flag was flown, it was one flag flown probably by an FBI agent.

00:52:45.000 No, you're missing the point, my guy.

00:52:47.000 You're missing the point.

00:52:48.000 When people say, oh, well, there was only one Nazi flag at Charlottesville, that is.

00:52:52.000 That is so beyond the point.

00:52:53.000 Tell me, what's the excuse then for the White Lives Matter rally in Tennessee when you had people with KKK patches and you had the National Socialist Movement and the Traditional Workers' Party?

00:53:04.000 What was the excuse for that one? 0.55

00:53:06.000 You know, point is not the semantic detail.

00:53:09.000 Oh, well, there was only one guy with a folded up Nazi flag. 0.56

00:53:11.000 It was probably a Fed. 0.81

00:53:12.000 That's beside the point.

00:53:13.000 That you had this rally, which was terrible optics and which achieved nothing but to set us back.

00:53:19.000 That's the kind of mentality we have to move beyond.

00:53:21.000 People say I'm against activism.

00:53:24.000 I'm against all activism that is not directly contributing to the election of a representative or the infiltration of a political party.

00:53:34.000 I'm for that activism.

00:53:36.000 Anything else is useless.

00:53:38.000 I'm for activism as long as it serves those two ends infiltrate a political party or elect a candidate.

00:53:44.000 Anything else is wasteful and setting us back.

00:53:48.000 Marcus Antonius playing Kingdom Come, watching America First.

00:53:52.000 A very white pilling evening.

00:53:53.000 Keep up the good work.

00:53:54.000 Netanyahu under fire for corruption.

00:53:56.000 I'm shocked.

00:53:58.000 Well, thank you, my guy, and thank you for the code, Marcus Antonius, my guy.

00:54:03.000 He sets up the SoundCloud, he cuts the MP3 for 100 episodes of the show and posts them.

00:54:09.000 He gives me a free code for Kingdom Come Deliverance to download the game.

00:54:14.000 Very solid guy.

00:54:15.000 A real, real good guy.

00:54:18.000 I'd appreciate the compliment there.

00:54:20.000 Netanyahu under fire for corruption.

00:54:22.000 Yeah, big surprise there, right?

00:54:24.000 I don't know.

00:54:24.000 I mean, Netanyahu, I resent him because he influences our politics.

00:54:28.000 I resent him because he is exerting his people's will to power over ours. 0.70

00:54:33.000 But you've got to respect the guy.

00:54:35.000 I mean, if he were my president, I would have tremendous respect for him.

00:54:38.000 Here's a guy who's a veteran, who fought in wars, who's tough, he's a pragmatist.

00:54:44.000 You got to admire it.

00:54:45.000 You know, if he were my president, if he were the leader of my people, I would respect that lot of him.

00:54:51.000 But he's not.

00:54:52.000 So we have a big problem with him.

00:54:55.000 Al C. Abadi.

00:54:56.000 I'm sorry, I didn't look into the pronunciation last night.

00:54:59.000 Forgot about that.

00:55:00.000 So I'm still going to butcher the pronunciation. 1.00

00:55:01.000 But a single shekel. 1.00

00:55:03.000 Thank you.

00:55:03.000 Dissident Right with the five bucks.

00:55:05.000 Much appreciated.

00:55:06.000 I'll see you at CPAC.

00:55:08.000 My guy.

00:55:09.000 Can't wait to meet you.

00:55:10.000 I hear you're very tall, which is definitely not a problem for me because, remember, I'm six foot nine.

00:55:15.000 So it's definitely not a problem for me.

00:55:18.000 Floratology.

00:55:19.000 Nick, when will the movement move to working to recruit Gen X and younger boomers instead of just neats negging them? 0.97

00:55:27.000 Need them for a white majority.

00:55:29.000 Well, that's my biggest problem it seems like everybody on the alt right is a slave to this very small group of people. 0.67

00:55:38.000 This very small, extreme group of people who contributes nothing, who creates no content, who doesn't have their name out there, who doesn't build anything.

00:55:47.000 They're not involved in politics, they don't have any professional skills, but there's a very small cadre of people.

00:55:51.000 Who somehow dictate the direction of a serious political movement.

00:55:55.000 And we have to break away from that.

00:55:58.000 We have to break away from that and appeal to the voters, appeal to the people that go out there and vote, and the people that pay money, and the people that are going to put their names out there and go and show up for a campaign.

00:56:09.000 Those are the people we're trying to appeal to, not people on the internet who are going to call you a cuck if you don't deny the Holocaust.

00:56:17.000 Paul Nealon, much as I respect the guy, when he's posting things about, well, Hitler and Jesus Christ and I fought the banks. 0.67

00:56:25.000 What are you thinking?

00:56:26.000 Are you trying to win an election? 0.68

00:56:28.000 Are you trying to win over anybody except for this very tiny group of internet autists?

00:56:34.000 It's problematic.

00:56:36.000 We have to work in a more productive direction or else we will never save our country.

00:56:41.000 Frederick White, I don't miss points, Nick.

00:56:43.000 I was in Charlottesville.

00:56:44.000 I know what happened.

00:56:45.000 Don't make me mosquito zap you.

00:56:47.000 I was in Charlottesville too.

00:56:48.000 I also know what happened.

00:56:49.000 And it was a disaster.

00:56:51.000 It was a disaster.

00:56:53.000 Charlottesville put us 10 steps backwards, it achieved nothing and cost us a lot.

00:56:59.000 And the point is.

00:57:00.000 If you're going to do activism, if you're committed, don't show up on a weekend in a costume.

00:57:05.000 Anybody can show up for a weekend in their white polo and they can yell and show everybody how mad they are.

00:57:11.000 Anybody could do that.

00:57:12.000 It's so easy.

00:57:13.000 What's much harder, what shows real commitment and real forward thinking, try going to your county party meeting every week or every month for a year or two years or three years and going to those meetings and slowly infiltrating.

00:57:27.000 Try going to your college Republicans.

00:57:28.000 Try running for elected office.

00:57:30.000 That's a lot harder.

00:57:31.000 It takes a lot more commitment.

00:57:33.000 A lot more real.

00:57:34.000 But you know what?

00:57:34.000 We do that.

00:57:35.000 We build the foundation for a political movement.

00:57:38.000 And in 25 years, we're running the show.

00:57:40.000 The Republican Party is ripe for the taking if we're serious about our objectives.

00:57:46.000 If you want to go and have a good time and drink with the fellas and you want to boost morale with the flag marches and the costumes, you know, by all means, but don't pretend you're trying to achieve anything political.

00:57:56.000 You're a fraternal social organization.

00:57:58.000 That's fine.

00:57:59.000 We need that.

00:58:00.000 But don't let that masquerade as that's political movement.

00:58:03.000 Separate the two.

00:58:04.000 Have that be a cultural thing.

00:58:06.000 Have that be a social thing.

00:58:07.000 But if we're serious about politics, it has to be serious.

00:58:11.000 Ian Weber, I think James was very off about illegal and legal immigrants pursuing Ocelon. 1.00

00:58:17.000 These people are not that intelligent, not very relevant, but whatever. 1.00

00:58:19.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:58:21.000 He's one of these Breitbart type people where they take a little headline or whatever and it's, oh, well, they all want to secede.

00:58:27.000 And I think that certainly exists, but I don't know if they're all that way or a significant amount of them.

00:58:33.000 No chance.

00:58:34.000 What happens is you see the world in a very particular way and then you force.

00:58:39.000 The facts to conform to your preconceived worldview, and that's problematic.

00:58:44.000 I hate that word.

00:58:45.000 I hate when people say problematic.

00:58:46.000 It's a problem.

00:58:48.000 Second Amendment matters.

00:58:49.000 Amren speech still on.

00:58:51.000 You know it, my guy.

00:58:52.000 You know it. 0.96

00:58:52.000 The Amren conference, I'll be there talking about the boomer question, talking about the boomer problem, and it'll be a big one. 0.96

00:58:59.000 Hopefully, I don't have to get in any fights.

00:59:02.000 I kind of anticipate going to Amren, getting up on the podium, and somebody taking a shot at me.

00:59:09.000 I show up, and a bunch of people are like, hey, are you the little man counter signaling us?

00:59:14.000 You know, and so, but we'll see what happens.

00:59:17.000 Marcus Antonius, the alt right is Alexander Dugan's toy.

00:59:21.000 That's it.

00:59:22.000 Well, you know, I hesitate to get into conspiracy theories, but is it inconsequential that Richard Spencer publishes his books and his wife translates his books and Matt Heimbeck is a good personal friend of his and they all go to the same conferences?

00:59:37.000 Is that all totally a coincidence?

00:59:40.000 I don't know.

00:59:40.000 I hesitate to make it into like a Glenn Beck conspiracy theory, but that's not inconsequential.

00:59:47.000 And Richard Spencer's marriage with his wife seems to be a marriage of convenience.

00:59:53.000 You know, I don't think anybody totally buys what's going on there.

00:59:56.000 And he puts on this facade of anything that anybody says about my wife, I take super seriously.

01:00:01.000 And that's why he's out banging 18 year olds in D.C. while his wife is with his daughter in Montana, right?

01:00:06.000 Because he cares so much.

01:00:07.000 So I think we have to be very skeptical of that.

01:00:10.000 And people might say that's a personal attack, that's this and that.

01:00:14.000 Well, you know, we have to scrutinize.

01:00:16.000 We have to scrutinize.

01:00:18.000 Who is leading us, especially when it's young people?

01:00:20.000 A lot of young people being led into dangerous and bad situations by reckless and irresponsible people, and that I take very seriously.

01:00:30.000 And it looks, yeah, after I said that, there might be some problems with the Am Ren speech, right?

01:00:34.000 After I say something like that, you know, maybe there will be some real problems.

01:00:37.000 But, you know, he said some very colorful things to me on the telephone, so I think it's fair.

01:00:41.000 JB Summers, I would say becoming business owners is also important.

01:00:46.000 I agree.

01:00:47.000 I agree.

01:00:48.000 And it's hard to be a business owner when you're out there.

01:00:51.000 You know, with the Identity Europa flag.

01:00:53.000 So just got to be productive.

01:00:55.000 As long as it's productive, if you can show me how that advances the cause in terms of legislation or how that advances the cause in concrete terms, I am for it.

01:01:06.000 But I am not for when I say, what is the purpose of a rally?

01:01:10.000 And people say, oh, it's shifting the Overton window. 0.85

01:01:13.000 It's awakening the white consciousness. 0.97

01:01:15.000 I'm sorry. 0.98

01:01:16.000 I can't measure that.

01:01:18.000 There's no metric we can judge that.

01:01:20.000 That's not concrete.

01:01:21.000 That is ethereal.

01:01:22.000 That is something that cannot be measured.

01:01:24.000 And therefore, that is nothing to base a political movement on.

01:01:27.000 So, not against activism.

01:01:30.000 You just got to show me what are the objectives, how is it achieving them.

01:01:33.000 If you can show me that, I'm on board, but nobody could tell me that. 0.92

01:01:36.000 We had Spencer on the podcast, we had Mike Enoch on the show, and neither of them could adequately answer the question of how is this going to end immigration? 0.93

01:01:44.000 How is this going to get our demographics under control? 0.98

01:01:47.000 They couldn't do it. 0.81

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America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - February 13, 2018

Back to Basics on Immigration | America First Ep. 107

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