00:01:00.000You know, this episode is really going to be, I think, For the vets, for the people that know what's going on with immigration, but also for people that don't know so much what's going on with immigration.
00:01:10.000This will be a good episode to show to the normies, to friends, family, people who don't know, because I want to lay out pretty clearly what is going on with illegal immigration in depth, why it's happening, why our senators are continuing to allow it to happen.
00:01:26.000Because I see this debate in the Senate right now, and I see that the Democrats have held up the government.
00:01:34.000They're holding up debate in the Senate.
00:01:35.000They're holding up progress in the legislature on things like infrastructure, on things like the budget, on things like making adjustments to entitlements or other things to support illegal immigrants.
00:01:46.000And you have to stop and think about why that's happening.
00:01:49.000Why is it that our elected representatives and in the Senate, which is the more important House, that's the upper chamber of the Congress, why are they holding up debate for people that shouldn't even be in the country?
00:02:00.000Why are they holding up debate for non citizens, people that came over here and they take benefits and they take?
00:02:05.000What we have here, and why is that happening?
00:02:07.000So, we're really going to answer those questions why it's going on and get into where this all started.
00:02:12.000So, to begin, we have to talk about why this is even an issue today.
00:02:18.000So, of course, the Senate began discussing DACA yesterday, and this was a part of the deal.
00:02:24.000If you recall, when the first government shutdown was resolved in January, it was a couple of Mondays ago.
00:02:30.000The deal that was made between the Democrats and Republicans was that Chuck Schumer agreed, I will give the Democratic votes the requisite.
00:02:38.000Nine Democratic votes to get the 60 vote majority in the Senate to pass a budget and fund the government in exchange for Mitch McConnell allowing a debate on DACA.
00:02:50.000Chuck Schumer said, You give us this debate on DACA, you give us this debate on the future of the 690,000 DACA recipients, and I will fund your government.
00:02:59.000And the reason, of course, why he compromised is because Democrats were blamed for it, and rightfully so.
00:03:05.000We got another short term stopgap measure which will fund the government through to March 23rd.
00:03:11.000And following through on the original promise from the original government shutdown, that is why we are discussing DACA and is a part of a larger budget deal or a larger immigration deal.
00:03:23.000Now, there is another development today that wasn't about the debate.
00:03:26.000Yesterday, the debate began in the Senate, and it looks like it's slow.
00:03:30.000It looks like there's not a whole lot of compromise being made.
00:03:33.000President Trump is sticking to his guns on the deal that he proposed in the State of the Union and last week on Twitter, and Democrats don't seem to want to compromise.
00:03:42.000Well, There was another development today on DACA.
00:03:45.000If you recall, in January, there was a San Francisco District Court which impeded the Trump administration from rescinding DACA.
00:03:53.000They ruled that it was unconstitutional for President Trump.
00:03:57.000It exceeded the scope of his authority in the executive branch to rescind the DACA program unilaterally without Congress.
00:04:05.000And of course, this is nonsense because the DACA program was established by executive order by President Obama during his administration when he himself couldn't get it through Congress.
00:04:15.000So it's bogus, but this is a temporary delay.
00:04:18.000And we found out today that another district judge has issued another injunction on the rescinding of DACA, a judge from New York this time.
00:04:28.000And so now President Trump is appealing the decision to the Supreme Court.
00:04:32.000The Supreme Court is debating on whether or not they're going to take the case, whether or not they are going to allow the administration to appeal this decision by the two district judges.
00:04:42.000And whether that happens or not, March 5th is the day that the DACA program is rescinded.
00:04:47.000March 5th is the day that, you know, whether the Supreme Court has their injunction or not, or whether they allow it to go through or not.
00:04:54.000And it looks like inevitably they will allow President Trump to rescind DACA.
00:04:59.000March 5th is the day that all the legal protections expire, and those 690,000 DACA recipients I'm tempted to say DACA kids, but the average age is 24 for the DACA recipients those legal protections go away on March 5th.
00:05:13.000And although the Department of Homeland Security has said that they are not a priority for deportation, they will have to be fired from their jobs.
00:05:21.000If they're working at a major corporation, if they're working at McDonald's or Walmart or 7 Eleven, they will have to be fired.
00:05:29.000And many corporations put out Sort of a question to their lawyers and said, What happens if DACA gets rescinded?
00:05:36.000And the lawyers responded, You have to fire the DACA recipient.
00:06:18.000Certainly, it's not the best thing in the world for Republicans to bring in more Hispanics or for more Hispanics to get citizenship.
00:06:24.000Because if they get citizenship in Texas and Florida and Arizona and Georgia and Colorado and North Carolina, well, they flip the swing states if they're going 71 to 29.
00:06:33.000And that's what I entered into it thinking.
00:06:39.000They go three out of 10 for Republicans, seven out of 10 for Democrats.
00:06:44.000The reality is far worse for the Republicans.
00:06:48.000The reality is far, far more bleak than we could have anticipated, far more bleak than the seven to three number.
00:06:55.000I actually looked into this on Pew Research, and maybe people in our own movement don't even understand this.
00:07:01.000But if you go to Pew Research and you look into the voting patterns for immigrants, legal and illegal, If you're looking at legal immigrants, Hispanics identify as Republicans one out of 10.
00:07:15.000So for every 10 Hispanic immigrants, one of them identifies as a Republican.
00:07:22.000That's the same margin as blacks that went for Barack Obama.
00:07:26.000That's the same margin as blacks that went for Hillary Clinton.
00:07:28.000One out of 10 for Hispanic immigrants identify as Republicans.
00:07:33.000Will we be a competitive party in 15 or 20 years?
00:07:37.000Will we be a competitive party at the state level or at the national level?
00:07:41.000If Texas is overrun by immigrants from Latin America?
00:07:45.000Are we going to be able to win another presidential national election without Texas, without Florida, without Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado?
00:07:54.000Are we ready to concede all those states?
00:08:04.000And it's funny because when you look at the numbers, when you look at the tables, Pew has this cute thing where they call them unauthorized immigrants.
00:08:17.000Makes it sound like, oh, well, you know, they just don't have their papers on them.
00:08:20.000They just didn't fill out the paperwork.
00:08:22.000But no, I mean, they're illegal aliens, foreign born.
00:08:25.000If you look at the numbers for illegal immigrants, it's one in 20.
00:08:30.000One in 20 unauthorized Hispanic immigrants in the country identify as Republicans.
00:08:35.000For every 20 of these people, for every 20 of the 690,000 DAC recipients, for every 20 Of the 12 and a half million illegal immigrants in the country, one of them will identify as a Republican.
00:08:50.000And this is why any kind of amnesty deal, any kind of legalization has to be thought about very, very carefully.
00:09:00.000Because the kinds of people that are being brought over here, the kinds of people that will be given these privileges, like voting rights, like receiving welfare, these are not people that are going to be our friend.
00:09:11.000These are not people that are going to support the country.
00:09:22.000Of course, Republicans and Democrats means political parties, and it means how competitive we will be in the next election, and so on and so forth.
00:09:30.000But think about what it really gets down into if we're talking about fundamentals.
00:09:40.000What do they stand for that the founding fathers stood for in 1776 or 1788?
00:09:47.000What do the Democrats stand for that the people that fought in the Civil War fought for, or the people that fought in World War II fought for?
00:09:56.000The values that that party stands for are unrecognizable.
00:10:00.000And if the constitution of the country, the constitution of the demographics of the country, is transformed in such a way that by 2050, 60% of the country, which is non white, will be voting for Democrats by a margin of 9 to 1, and the Democratic Party stands for values that were non existent 300 years ago, non existent.
00:10:21.000200 years ago, even 50 or 60 years ago, what kind of country will we live in?
00:10:27.000What will the texture of life be in the United States of America when we live under a one party state?
00:10:34.000When the party that rules our country in the Senate and in the White House and in the House of Representatives and eventually in the Supreme Court, uncontested for decades, is a party that bears no resemblance to the people that founded the country.
00:10:47.000What will life be like in the country?
00:10:49.000These are the questions we have to ask ourselves.
00:10:51.000And then, of course, we have to ask ourselves where did this all come from?
00:10:55.000This didn't come out of a clear blue sky, right?
00:10:57.000You know, people wonder okay, maybe this is why the Democrats want millions of illegal immigrants.
00:11:03.000This is why they want illegal immigrants.
00:11:05.000This is why they want a pathway to citizenship.
00:11:07.000This is why they want regular, plain old mass immigration.
00:11:11.000You know, forget about illegal for a second.
00:11:21.000Democrats want it for obvious reasons for the votes.
00:11:24.000They would never lose the Senate, never lose the White House, never lose the House ever again if this continues.
00:11:32.000If Hispanics are allowed to become a plurality, if whites are allowed to become the minority, and we're speaking just in terms of partisanship, and Republicans want it for the cheap labor.
00:12:00.000People who were not born in this country, people whose ancestors did not build the country, didn't build the railroads, didn't build the factories, didn't build the cars, didn't land on the moon, people that didn't fight and die in the wars.
00:12:11.000They are going to be determining the future and the direction of the country.
00:12:15.000They will be the ones ruling and governing and being represented.
00:12:21.000But we all recognize that even more broadly, the direction that we're looking in, whether or not we consider it a bad thing that foreigners are coming here, it is a bad thing.
00:12:31.000That the foreigners are choosing this direction because the direction we're headed in is, like I said, one that is completely alien to the people that founded the country.
00:12:38.000But where, of course, did it all come from?
00:12:41.000We have to go back to the basics, and naturally, we revert back to the 1965 Immigration Act.
00:12:47.000And here's why I bring this up I'll allude to it in a moment.
00:12:52.0001965 Immigration Act, the Hart Cellar Immigration Act, was the most transformative law in America's history in terms of demographics.
00:13:03.000You compare this with the 1792 Immigration Act, you compare this with the 1793 Immigration Act, the 1796 Immigration Act, the 1802 Immigration Law, the 1924 National Origins Quotas.
00:13:16.000Nothing was more transformative to America's demographics as the 1965 Immigration Act.
00:13:27.000That the most transformative law in our nation's history that pertains to demographics, the most important thing in a country is the people that constitute that country.
00:13:38.000And that's the most transformative thing.
00:13:39.000And most people have never heard of it.
00:13:41.000And if they have, they don't know what's in it.
00:13:43.000Maybe they have some vague idea that it transformed the country.
00:13:48.000And that gets, I think, to the fundamental point, which is trying to be made, which is the fact that we never got a vote, never got a say so.
00:13:58.000You know, a couple of congressmen, a couple of senators cobbled this thing together.
00:14:02.000And this transformed the country forever without going back, without there being a possibility of reversal.
00:14:09.000And we never got a vote in the matter.
00:14:12.000And this is something I talked about in the debate with Destiny.
00:14:15.000And this is just a little bit before we get into what's in it.
00:14:18.000I think we have to acknowledge the fact that it is really a travesty.
00:14:23.000It is really a miscarriage of justice that in this so called democracy, in this so called representative democracy or republic, some of the most important reforms that have been passed, maybe the most important reform that has been passed, is something that nobody knows about.
00:14:40.000But, you know, again, this is for starters.
00:14:41.000There's so many things wrong with it, it's hard.
00:14:44.000It's hard to pick a place to start, but I think that's a good one.
00:14:48.000Well, into the 1965 Immigration Act, if we explore what has happened since it was passed, what were the promises that were made, maybe in the beginning?
00:14:57.000If we look at immigration in 1960, a lot of people don't know this.
00:15:03.000We hear all the time we're a nation of immigrants, right?
00:15:05.000You know, we're the nation of immigrants, we're the melting pot.
00:15:08.000And there was a lot of immigration from 1900 to 1965, but it was of a fundamentally different character than it has been since 1965.
00:15:17.000In 1960, seven out of eight immigrants that came into this country were European.
00:15:26.00087.5% of the immigrants coming into the country were from Europe, and most of them from Northwestern Europe.
00:15:34.000These are people from England, these are people from Germany, people from Scandinavia, countries that work, in short, countries that speak English, many of them, countries that knew Christ, Christian countries, countries that had a tradition of liberty.
00:15:49.000Political and economic liberty, countries that had a tradition of capitalism, of republicanism, democracy.
00:15:54.000Even you could go back to medieval times, they had a tradition of monarchy, which is, of course, where many modern forms of government are derived.
00:16:46.000We were actually told by the people that sponsored this bill, by the people that wrote this bill, that it would do the exact opposite.
00:16:53.000They told us explicitly, Ted Kennedy, who pushed this law, who was one of the major proponents of it, told us explicitly this would not increase dramatically the amount of immigrants.
00:17:05.000It would not dramatically change the character of the immigrants coming in.
00:17:17.000You go from near 90% Europeans to over 90% non Europeans, and we never got a vote.
00:17:24.000In addition to that, the proportion of the country that is foreign born tripled.
00:17:28.000So, not only did the constitution of the immigrants change, not only did the composition of the immigrants change, that they come from different countries, and that happens to be a very important thing.
00:17:38.000If you imagine that people before were coming over here and there was some degree of assimilation, because if they came from England, very easy transition.
00:17:46.000If they come from Germany or Italy or Scandinavia, a much easier transition than from Africa or from China, because we share heritage.
00:17:54.000But you also imagine that not only is the composition of the immigrants changing, but the number of the immigrants is changing.
00:18:00.000Whereas before, most of the population growth, a lot of people don't know this either, most of the population growth from 1860 to 1900, and that was a significant amount of the population growth in our country's history, it was domestic.
00:18:15.000It was a result of people in this country having lots of babies, not from immigration.
00:18:19.000So not only did the composition change, but also the amount change.
00:18:22.000And that was the other lie that Ted Kennedy said.
00:18:25.000Not only would The demographic makeup not changed, but also we wouldn't be overrun and overwhelmed by many immigrants.
00:18:33.000The proportion of foreign born people in the country tripled, tripled in 50 years.
00:18:40.000And here's a nice little section I read from The Atlantic on the 1965 Immigration Act.
00:18:45.000This is from The Atlantic, which is a pretty left leaning paper.
00:18:48.000You know, I like some of their stuff, it's pretty nuanced, but it tends to lean left when they do opinion.
00:18:53.000This is a direct quote from The Atlantic about the Immigration Act of 1965.
00:18:59.000This is from the 60s, and so keep that in mind if you think it's a little bit prescient.
00:19:03.000It says, quote, opponents of the reform proposal had argued that the United States was fundamentally a European country and should stay that way.
00:19:14.000Quote, the people of Ethiopia have the same right to come to the United States under this bill, the 65 Immigration Act, as the people from England, the people of France, the people of Germany, and the people of Holland, complained Senator Sam Irvin, a Democrat from North Carolina.
00:19:31.000Quote, with all due respect to Ethiopia, I don't know of any contributions that Ethiopia has made to the making of America.
00:20:06.000And I think that says it all right there.
00:20:08.000The question fundamentally is a matter of identity.
00:20:13.000The opponents of this law, even in 1965, said this is a European country.
00:20:19.000In culture, in tradition, in custom, politically, economically, and it should stay that way.
00:20:25.000And note the quote from the Democrat from North Carolina.
00:20:28.000There's a lot of quotes you could pull from Democrats in the South in the 1960s which are not flattering.
00:20:34.000You could pull a lot of quotes from that time which people might call regressive, which people might call bigoted, which people might call prejudiced.
00:20:42.000But what this senator is saying is not controversial, is not racist.
00:20:49.000The people that are supposed to be pouring into the country and remaking the country demographically, they had no part in the making of this country.
00:20:58.000Not in the construction of it economically, not in the fight for it in times of war, not in the construction of it politically in the 18th century or the settlement of it in the 17th century.
00:21:11.000And fundamentally, the debate in the 1960s was about is this a country that is European, that is Christian, that is English Protestant in character as the settlement?
00:21:22.000In the northeastern United States was, or northeastern North America was in the 17th century?
00:21:27.000Or is this the boarding house, the orphanage of the world's poor, the boarding house of the desperate, the poor, the illiterate masses?
00:21:38.000And the funny thing is about this Immigration Act is there was never a debate about that.
00:21:51.000Nobody ever gave a speech on the floor of the Senate resolving this question.
00:21:56.000Nobody said, well, we've come to the consensus that this is going to be a European country, or we've come to the consensus that this will be a country for all peoples, you know, a multi ethnic, multi racial, multi religious country with no dominant culture.
00:22:11.000That decision was never made, but simply the law was passed and the unintended consequences ensued.
00:22:17.000And this is why you see the kinds of politics that we see today.
00:22:22.000This is why you see the rise of identitarianism.
00:22:25.000This is why you see the rise of the alt right and the alt left.
00:22:29.000This fundamental question, as stated in the Atlantic, about what America is.
00:22:38.000Is it an English Protestant country, as it was for hundreds of years?
00:22:42.000Or is it this multi ethnic mix up of all the different peoples of the world?
00:22:48.000And the reason, the driver of all this immigration, was actually a very interesting provision.
00:22:54.000When they were debating the 1965 Immigration Act, there was much debate about whether immigration would be given to, or, you know, the visas and immigration preference would be given towards people with marketable skills, people with skills that would benefit the United States, a merit based system, or whether it would be determined based on family, family reunification.
00:23:15.000And it's funny because the proponents of the merit based system were seen as the proponents of the multi ethnic country.
00:23:21.000They said, let's give immigration, let's give.
00:23:24.000Citizenship to people that have skills that will benefit the country.
00:23:27.000And people said, well, that'll open the door to all kinds of people.
00:23:31.000And the people that proposed a system based on family reunification, these were the people in support of the European country because when the immigration previously was 90% European, it would follow that if the immigration policy was based on reunification, all the European immigrants would bring over their brothers and sisters and fathers and mothers and relatives.
00:23:52.000But in fact, as we know now, the opposite happened.
00:23:55.000The millions of Hispanics and Asians and Africans were here.
00:24:10.000This is where we arrive finally to our modern day immigration policy.
00:24:15.000What is up for debate in the Senate and in the House are these provisions chain migration.
00:24:20.000Chain migration is the family unification policy, the diversity visa lottery, which is essentially what.
00:24:26.000The chain migration, the family unification ended up being, you know, but the diversity visa is separate.
00:24:32.000And the wall, the wall which will bridge us off from illegal immigrants.
00:24:37.000And so, what has to be decided in this country, not by a law being passed in the dead of night, lies being spread about it, unintended consequences, is that we have to have a consensus in this country about who we are as Americans.
00:25:09.000Is there an element of blood, of hereditary identity there as well?
00:25:14.000That has to be decided, or else this will never get finished, or else this is a fight that will rage on for decades and generations and centuries and could very well end in violence if this is not resolved.
00:25:25.000So there has to be a consensus built on that.
00:25:28.000And whether you err on the side of European identity, Western identity, something that's a little bit more concrete than the civic nationalist identity of paperwork or vice versa.
00:25:40.000I think, regardless of that, regardless of whether you want to end chain migration and in doing so, affirm America as an identity of soil and something a little bit more, maybe blood and soil, or maybe something beyond that, traditions and customs and a greater legacy than just the paperwork.
00:25:58.000I think, regardless of your take on chain migration and diversity visa, you have to acknowledge that the wall has to be there.
00:26:04.000In the present immigration debate, I think the starting point on that conversation, because that's a very heavy conversation, that's one where there is a lot of disagreement and very fundamental disagreement on what it means to be an American.
00:26:18.000The starting place must necessarily be illegal immigration.
00:26:23.000And this is why President Trump was so brilliant when he started out his campaign in fixating on the most egregious examples of illegal immigration.
00:26:31.000Because you think about it, you come to the average American citizen.
00:26:36.000In 2013 or 2014, when political correctness police are still in full force, and you say to them, Is this country a European Christian country or is this a country for everybody?
00:26:47.000Odds are most people will tell you, This is a country for everybody, it's a nation of immigrants.
00:27:00.000But Donald Trump did something very strategic.
00:27:02.000In 2015, when he announced his candidacy, he started with illegal immigration and he also started with the worst of the illegal immigrants.
00:27:09.000He started with drug dealers, rapists, and murderers.
00:27:14.000And this was a strategic starting point.
00:27:16.000And people might say maybe that is manipulative, but I think it really lays bare what the division is.
00:27:24.000He said, You have people in this country who they did not fight in the wars.
00:27:28.000They did not build the factories and the monuments and so on.
00:27:34.000And on top of that, not only did they break their laws, not only did they break our laws and come here and they exploit the system, but then they come here and they kill.
00:27:44.000They kill American citizens who pay taxes, who their ancestors were here.
00:27:49.000And they rape Americans who pay taxes and were here.
00:27:52.000And they deal drugs and they corrupt the youth of this country.
00:27:55.000And so that was a very interesting angle that he came at it.
00:27:57.000From an angle where everybody could understand where he's coming from, where they could say, you know what?
00:28:03.000Maybe I sympathize with legal immigrants.
00:28:10.000There is something not right about that foreigners come over here, they flout our laws, they flagrant our laws, and then on top of that, they commit egregious crimes against people, and they shouldn't have even been in the country.
00:28:22.000And so that was the conversation starter.
00:28:24.000And people start to see where it comes from.
00:28:28.000The wall, which is the solution to illegal immigration, the wall plus the border agents and the ICE agents, which is in Trump's budget, which he's proposed earlier this week.
00:28:37.000And I put together a little illustration, a little infographic here to show everybody just how ridiculous it is that we continue to allow illegal immigrants in this country and why not every single congressman is standing for the wall.
00:28:52.000Every single one of them should be standing.
00:29:55.000And people might say, oh, well, Nick, what about taxes?
00:29:59.000The left might say, well, Nick, illegal immigrants pay taxes, they pay sales tax, they pay other taxes.
00:30:06.000If it's costing $116 billion, they're paying at least that in taxes wrong.
00:30:10.000$116 billion is after taxes are taken into account.
00:30:14.000If you look at the numbers, illegal immigrants actually cost us in total $135 billion.
00:30:21.000But if you subtract the taxes paid, which is $19 billion, only then do you arrive at your $116.
00:30:27.000So the $116 billion number is pretty solid.
00:30:30.000It's pretty hard, though, to conceptualize what $116 billion looks like.
00:30:35.000So I contrasted it with The increases in Trump's budget, which we talked about yesterday.
00:30:40.000And the biggest items which he added to the budget for this fiscal year were the $80 billion that is pumped into defense as a result of ending the defense sequester, which began during the Obama administration, the $18 billion for the wall, and the $17 billion for health and human services to combat the opioid epidemic.
00:31:07.000You add up all the numbers on the major items in Trump's new budget.
00:31:10.000Which are things for Americans, defending Americans with the military, building our wall to keep illegal immigrants out, and having more money to fight the opioid epidemic.
00:31:21.000And that is still $1 billion short of the annual cost of illegal immigration in every state $116 billion per year.
00:31:32.000That pays for everything and then some that Trump proposed in his new budget, including the wall.
00:32:12.000And then on top of that, you have to ask yourself.
00:32:16.000If this is costing us, the American taxpayer, $100 billion per year, you factor that into the deficit, you factor that into the debt, you factor that into things we cannot pay for, you consider the cost, not only in we're paying another $100 billion, but in terms of things we cannot buy with that money, defense, things for our young people to combat the opioid epidemic, things for infrastructure, then you really start to understand the cost of illegal immigration.
00:32:41.000And there is not a single person who can make a convincing argument, not a single person on planet Earth.
00:32:47.000Who can make a convincing argument from a fiscal standpoint that illegal immigration is justified?
00:32:53.000That building a wall should be anything but an absolute necessity, unquestionable, undebatable.
00:33:25.000But, you know, I don't think we should even be arguing it from the fiscal.
00:33:29.000The only reason I bring it up is because so often that's the refrain from the left is, well, the wall costs money or illegal immigrants have this economic effect.
00:33:38.000They contribute to the GDP or they pay taxes.
00:33:40.000And it is just simply the farthest thing in the world from the truth.
00:33:45.000You know, not only do they not contribute, but they're actually this massive net negative and they shouldn't even be here.
00:33:50.000But, Beyond that, I don't even think it should ever get to that point.
00:33:54.000I don't even think the debate should ever get to the fiscal.
00:33:57.000Maybe you have mass immigration with legal immigrants.
00:34:34.000It all comes down to, and you can pick apart the fiscal, you can pick apart these statistics and this and that, but really what it comes down to is that question, which was asked in that Atlantic article in 1965 what is the identity of the country?
00:34:50.000And until we figure that out, we won't have immigration policies that will advance those goals.
00:34:55.000It will continue to be very contentious, increasingly violent, increasingly have these tensions festering, and it has to be resolved.
00:35:07.000You know, the deal that President Trump laid out in the State of the Union was amnesty, a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million dreamers, 1.8 million dreamers in 10 years.
00:36:10.000And then the other three provisions are obviously ending chain migration, ending the diversity visa lottery system, and building the wall.
00:36:18.000Now, early estimates about those cuts to immigration say that in about 15 or 10 or 15 years, immigration will be cut, legal immigration will be cut by upwards of 7 million if this law is passed, if this deal is made.
00:36:34.000And for that reason, as hesitant as I am to support any kind of deal which gives citizenship, Any kind of deal which gives amnesty, you have to look at it in terms of pure numbers.
00:36:46.000If 7 million less immigrants are coming in, citizens and their children are not coming in.
00:36:52.000And in exchange for that, you have to give half of 1.8 in their kids.
00:37:43.000So, whatever the deal ends up being, if that deal ends up getting done, I would support it if we see, number one, that everything in the deal is solidified and followed to the letter of the law.
00:37:55.000We have to have faith and certainty and trust and an assurance that everything in there will be followed through, or else we can never support it.
00:38:04.000I don't care how favorable the numbers are.
00:38:06.000If there's no assurance that it'll be followed through, even if there's a Democrat administration, even if there's two Democratic administrations, you can't support it.
00:38:17.000Number two, we have to see what the requirements look like for citizenship.
00:38:22.000If it's pretty loose, if the judiciary system is going to be able to expand the definition and really go to town on this and say, well, actually, all 3 million dreamers are going to get citizenship, then we can't have it either.
00:38:35.000If it's 1.8 million eligible, it has to be 1.8 million eligible.
00:38:39.000And then there have to be requirements on top of that.
00:38:42.000So we would have to see that into law.
00:38:44.000And then in terms of the cuts to the diversity visa, the chain migration, the wall, we have to make sure that that is everything that it says it is, specifically in terms of the wall.
00:38:53.000This has to be the $18 billion wall that Trump promised in January, that the White House laid out.
00:39:33.000And, you know, the pressure is there to make it happen.
00:39:35.000I don't think you'll get this kind of a situation anytime soon.
00:39:39.000Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican administration that's serious about ending legal and illegal immigration in a significant way.
00:39:48.000I don't think the stars align like this in the near future.
00:39:50.000And especially now with the kind of pressure on Democrats.
00:40:02.000Can we be 100% certain that Donald Trump gets back in?
00:40:05.000Can we be 100% certain that he even wins the primary?
00:40:08.000Can we be certain that the next president isn't totally, isn't not totally an amnesty, wild, egalitarian kind of a person?
00:40:17.000I don't think there's any guarantee of that.
00:40:19.000So, you know, for all these people that say, you know, we can never make a deal, we can never compromise, we can never give citizenship to any illegal immigrants, I'm with you.
00:40:29.000But in practice, it's a lot more difficult.
00:40:31.000You'll be no different than the constitutional conservatives that are holding up their little document as their country sinks into the depths of the multitude, into the unwashed masses.
00:40:43.000You know, well, at least we never cucked on citizenship.
00:40:45.000At least we never cucked on DACA, they say, as the next administration takes power and opens up the floodgates to millions more legal and illegal immigrants.
00:40:54.000So I think we have to be very practical.
00:40:56.000We have to be very pragmatic about how we think about any potential deal.
00:41:18.000People are going to get in the live chat, they'll get in the comments.
00:41:21.000There was this one guy in the Discord, in the last America First Discord, all these people are talking shit about me, saying, Nick is cucking on DACA.
00:41:31.000We can never allow a single illegal immigrant in the country.
00:41:34.000And I would just say, you know, show me how else it happens.
00:41:37.000Show me how else we get the majorities in both houses.
00:41:40.000Show me where we get the leadership from the White House.
00:41:42.000Show me where we get the pressure on the Democrats.
00:41:45.000Show me where we get the pressure on the mainstream media.
00:41:47.000It doesn't happen, it doesn't happen often.
00:41:50.000There's no guarantee it'll ever happen again in our lifetimes or the next.
00:41:56.000So if this is the worst deal, I think it's a nice thing.
00:42:00.000But, you know, all those conditions have to be met, as stated before.
00:42:39.000I will keep talking about the USS Liberty, the Levon affair, and the Apollo affair, and how many scandals until little Ben comes around and we can finally have the biblical confrontation.
00:42:52.000ISIS talks about the biblical confrontation between Christians and Muslims in Syria, in Dabiq, which is a field in Syria.
00:43:01.000The Catholic version of that is when the Talmudic Ben Shapiro Zionists come on the battlefield.
00:43:08.000They come on America first and debate the Catholics over Israel, right?
00:43:13.000Ben Weber, please link the Discord in the chats.
00:44:15.000That's a great book that everybody should read because it lays out, in terms of historiography, the case for Christ, the case that Jesus Christ was a real.
00:44:26.000Historical person that existed was crucified and rose again.
00:44:30.000And if people understand that that happened, it's hard to deny everything else, right?
00:44:36.000If you basically are convinced that Jesus Christ rose from the dead, how do you not believe that not only is he the Son of God, but that everything he said was true?
00:45:18.000And I think there would be vast support for that if it were properly mobilized, if it were properly channeled.
00:45:24.000And something else about Hispanics, They're not wild about mass immigration.
00:45:28.000I don't know if you know this, but if you talk to Hispanics down in Texas, down in certain parts of Florida, they themselves are not thrilled about illegal immigration and also even mass legal immigration.
00:45:39.000So I think that's something we could mobilize support for if we got serious, but we have to get serious about electoral politics.
00:45:47.000Every time we have one of these self indulgent masturbatory rallies in Tennessee or Charlottesville where we show up and Mike Enoch does his Roman salute.
00:46:26.000Look at what was possible in three years.
00:46:28.000We went from amnesty under Barack Obama.
00:46:32.000We went from complete and total amnesty and mass immigration.
00:46:36.000And in three years, we're talking about getting rid of chain migration, getting rid of the diversity visa lottery, and building a wall between the United States and Mexico.
00:46:45.000That took two years for us to go from, yeah, give them all amnesty to let us construct a Physical concrete barrier between the United States and Mexico.
00:50:37.000How are you going to have a movement that's forged by people who don't acknowledge the influence of certain people, people that don't acknowledge the divinity of Jesus Christ, people that don't acknowledge The need for religion or the tradition of Christianity in this civilization.
00:50:52.000People who give in to degenerate sexual practices.
00:50:55.000You know, is the alt hype, is Ryan Falk going to lead you into battle when he's on camera doing unspeakable acts?
00:51:17.000Who is without sin cast the first stone.
00:51:19.000And he also said, you know, before you worry about the, what did he say, about the twig in somebody else's eye, focus on the plank in your own eye.
00:52:21.000But, uh, Yeah, it was nice to see because Israel had been doing those airstrikes for how many months, going in there and bombing stuff and missile strikes and airstrikes.
00:52:53.000Tell me, what's the excuse then for the White Lives Matter rally in Tennessee when you had people with KKK patches and you had the National Socialist Movement and the Traditional Workers' Party?
00:55:29.000Well, that's my biggest problem it seems like everybody on the alt right is a slave to this very small group of people.
00:55:38.000This very small, extreme group of people who contributes nothing, who creates no content, who doesn't have their name out there, who doesn't build anything.
00:55:47.000They're not involved in politics, they don't have any professional skills, but there's a very small cadre of people.
00:55:51.000Who somehow dictate the direction of a serious political movement.
00:55:58.000We have to break away from that and appeal to the voters, appeal to the people that go out there and vote, and the people that pay money, and the people that are going to put their names out there and go and show up for a campaign.
00:56:09.000Those are the people we're trying to appeal to, not people on the internet who are going to call you a cuck if you don't deny the Holocaust.
00:56:17.000Paul Nealon, much as I respect the guy, when he's posting things about, well, Hitler and Jesus Christ and I fought the banks.
00:57:13.000What's much harder, what shows real commitment and real forward thinking, try going to your county party meeting every week or every month for a year or two years or three years and going to those meetings and slowly infiltrating.
00:57:27.000Try going to your college Republicans.
00:57:35.000We build the foundation for a political movement.
00:57:38.000And in 25 years, we're running the show.
00:57:40.000The Republican Party is ripe for the taking if we're serious about our objectives.
00:57:46.000If you want to go and have a good time and drink with the fellas and you want to boost morale with the flag marches and the costumes, you know, by all means, but don't pretend you're trying to achieve anything political.
00:57:56.000You're a fraternal social organization.
00:59:22.000Well, you know, I hesitate to get into conspiracy theories, but is it inconsequential that Richard Spencer publishes his books and his wife translates his books and Matt Heimbeck is a good personal friend of his and they all go to the same conferences?
01:00:55.000As long as it's productive, if you can show me how that advances the cause in terms of legislation or how that advances the cause in concrete terms, I am for it.
01:01:06.000But I am not for when I say, what is the purpose of a rally?
01:01:10.000And people say, oh, it's shifting the Overton window.
01:01:13.000It's awakening the white consciousness.
01:01:30.000You just got to show me what are the objectives, how is it achieving them.
01:01:33.000If you can show me that, I'm on board, but nobody could tell me that.
01:01:36.000We had Spencer on the podcast, we had Mike Enoch on the show, and neither of them could adequately answer the question of how is this going to end immigration?
01:01:44.000How is this going to get our demographics under control?
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