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00:28:47.000Very excited to be back with you here tonight on Monday for another week of America First.
00:28:54.000And actually this is going to be our only full week of the show this month because of course last week I was all over the place, Iowa, New York.
00:29:34.000We're talking about banning porn and it's actually interesting how this conversation started because, of course,
00:29:41.000Our movement and myself in particular, this show, we've been against porn for years.
00:29:46.000This is something that's been a part of the dissident right since it started.
00:29:50.000You know, I think maybe four or five years ago, we could go back even as far as the Proud Boys and people like that.
00:29:56.000I think banning porn and realizing how bad it is for society was kind of one of the founding beliefs, one of the original things we talked about.
00:30:03.000And finally, it seems like more mainstream conservatives are coming around to it.
00:30:08.000And the thing that started this whole conversation, which you might have seen on Twitter this weekend, I think they had banned porn trending yesterday or maybe a couple of days ago.
00:30:17.000The thing that kicked off the conversation was a letter sent in by, I think it was three or four Republican representatives to the Attorney General asking him to use obscenity laws to start going after hardcore pornography on the internet.
00:30:33.000We'll talk about what was in the letter, what we could do about porn, and just generally about, I think, how this shows a divide between libertarians and conservatives, like a lot of other things we've been talking about for the past couple of months.
00:30:48.000We'll also be looking tonight at an appearance on Tucker Carlson by Peter D'Abrosca, which unfortunately I didn't even get to catch.
00:30:56.000I was out of town on Friday, so I didn't even get to see this.
00:31:01.000But I saw all over Twitter people posting clips and everything else about Peter on Tucker Carlson and I put it out on Telegram that it was almost surreal.
00:31:10.000His appearance on Tucker Carlson was so good, in my opinion, it didn't even feel real.
00:31:16.000If you guys have seen it, Peter Diabrovsky, I believe he used to work for Big League Politics,
00:31:32.000He called out Turning Point USA, Daily Wire, called for a 10-year moratorium on legal immigration, did an amazing job defending that position.
00:31:40.000And I was sitting there watching the clip on Friday and on Saturday morning and I'm thinking like,
00:32:01.000I know we've done this many times this year in particular, and I think a few times even last year or the year before, but you may know that YouTube is changing their terms of service tomorrow.
00:32:11.000December 10th is the big date that everybody in the YouTube community, everybody on social media has been watching for another round of purges.
00:32:20.000And everybody says that the Purges will be politically motivated.
00:32:23.000They say this because, as I said, YouTube is going to update their TOS, their Terms of Service, tomorrow.
00:32:29.000And there was some language within their update.
00:32:32.000I believe all the updates are publicly available.
00:32:37.000But there is some troubling language within this TOS update that has people concerned that there's going to be a new round of bans for conservatives, right-wing people, and so on.
00:32:46.000People have talked about Owen Benjamin's banning off of YouTube last week as evidence that a purge is underway or a purge is incoming.
00:32:57.000You know, I always feel bad because every time this happens, like, you know, earlier this year, I think it was with the Steven Crowder controversy, there was a big demonetization and subsequently a lot of channels got banned, including James Alsup.
00:33:10.000I feel like there was another round of bans way earlier in this year that I don't even remember, but I remember there were a couple of scares like this this year, and every time I do that, you know, people give a ton of super chats, and they're like, oh, here's a little money in case you get banned, whatever, and I always feel like I don't want you to think I'm being dishonest, and because some people do this.
00:33:31.000Some people it is sort of like an industry, and they do profit from ginning up fears about deplatforming and so on, but
00:33:57.000I have to tell you, and this is my perspective,
00:34:00.000I read the TOS update and what I noticed is YouTube, as far as I know, there's a distinction between their Community Guidelines and their Terms of Service.
00:34:10.000Community Guidelines is pertaining more to the content itself, the substance of the content on YouTube.
00:34:53.000Uh, features that are not economically viable or financially viable will be terminated.
00:34:59.000And everybody said, oh, oh, okay, so if YouTube doesn't think my content can make them money, they're gonna ban my channel.
00:35:07.000And I believe what it actually meant was YouTube features, like if YouTube implemented, I don't know, some kind of feature on their platform, on their end, and they found that the feature was not viable, if it was not making them money, they would get rid of the feature.
00:35:22.000For example, something like YouTube Editor or, you know, I don't know, their subscription service, whatever it is.
00:35:29.000I think it was more to the point, and they clarified that on Twitter.
00:35:32.000I don't know if they went in and clarified that because they were getting pushback, or if it was just a misunderstanding from the beginning, but to me that was the only thing that I saw that people were complaining about.
00:35:43.000That people could find anything in there that would indicate that their enforcement of the rules would change.
00:35:49.000Other than that, it seems to me to be pretty run-of-the-mill stuff, but I guess we'll see.
00:35:56.000You know, I think Owen got banned because of a bunch of copyright strikes, and I think he's been on the shit list for a while, like a lot of other channels.
00:36:04.000You know, so to me, I don't think that was indicative of a purge underway.
00:36:08.000I think that was just another banning.
00:36:10.000These things do happen from time to time without constituting a systemic policy of going after channels, right?
00:36:21.000Remember, the only way that you can follow me after this goes is on my email list.
00:36:27.000If you go to NicholasJFuentes.com and sign up for the email list,
00:36:31.000The only time I'm gonna use that is in the event that I get banned from YouTube or Twitter or whatever to give you an update on where you can find my show and things like that.
00:36:42.000And I don't send out... A lot of times you sign up for an email list and then it's like you get three emails a day like, oh, you know, here's a here's a daily offer.
00:37:21.000The other thing I want to talk about before we dive into the current events is the Milo Show.
00:37:25.000So of course, last week we didn't have a full week of America First because I was actually flew out to New York City to do the interview in studio.
00:38:10.000You know, Nick Fuentes Milo on YouTube.
00:38:13.000And of course, this was sort of like a controversial thing.
00:38:17.000on both sides and we talked a little bit about that on the show you know I think it was controversial obviously for Milo because I don't think his audience loves me and I know his friends don't love me you know some of the people that he hangs out with are appalled at my views so me going on his show was you know so sort of a weird thing for him it was also weird for me a lot of the groipers a lot of
00:38:41.000People who are not friendly to me on the right were saying, oh Nick is going on Milo's show.
00:38:48.000That means he is a hypocrite or something like this.
00:38:50.000So it was a little bit controversial that I went on there, but if you watch the interview...
00:38:55.000I think it quells any doubts that people had about it, any concerns people had.
00:39:00.000You know, if Charlie Kirk invited me, and not to compare the two, but if Charlie Kirk invited me to go on his podcast, I would go on his podcast.
00:39:08.000And I think you would think it was a good idea, right?
00:39:11.000If Ben Shapiro invited me to go on his podcast, I would go on his podcast.
00:39:16.000And again, I don't think you would think it's a bad idea.
00:39:19.000The point is we want to engage with mainstream people that have a mainstream audience.
00:39:24.000We want to take our views about demographic change, social conservatism, foreign policy, the Israel lobby, the Jewish lobby, all these things, we want to take these views
00:39:35.000and expose them to as many people as possible.
00:39:38.000We also want people to understand that the people that hold these views are legit, okay, these are legitimate grievances that we have, we have a legitimate political platform, and we are trying to get these ideas inside of the Overton window, or inside, I don't love that phrase, but inside of the range of acceptable, normal, healthy ideas within the political conversation.
00:40:03.000So a lot of people gave me grief about it.
00:40:06.000I don't know what they were expecting from the interview if I was going to go on there and say, oh, you know, all of a sudden I love, you know, multiculturalism and I love homosexuals and whatever.
00:40:41.000I think if people watch the interview, they might have been surprised to see that Milo, I think, has evolved too, as we all have over the past four to five years.
00:41:13.000He's obviously more soft on homosexuality in certain respects than we are.
00:41:18.000But I think there is a lot of agreement on Turning Point USA, on immigration, on some other things.
00:41:24.000And so if he's going to have us on, if he acknowledges that we are legitimate actors with legitimate grievances against the establishment, I think that makes us to an extent
00:41:35.000I think he said the phrase, arms-length allies, you know, if we are in different factions, maybe we're part of the same big tent, whatever.
00:41:41.000You know, I think it's kind of arbitrary, the kind of language you describe, but it was a great interview.
00:41:46.000I thought, I thought I did a great job.
00:43:52.000I feel like the entire direction, specifically in the last like three to four months, the momentum, something about the energy has just completely changed.
00:44:02.000I feel like earlier in this year, when I first declared our fatwa against Conservative Inc., I felt like I was one of the only people pushing in the right direction.
00:44:11.000I felt like, you know, this show and maybe Patrick Casey and a few other characters
00:44:17.000You know, Jake Lloyd, Scott Greer, Faith Goldie maybe.
00:44:20.000I felt like there were very few people that were really pushing in the right direction, on the right issues, with the right rhetoric, the right look.
00:44:28.000You know, smart not just on the issues, but also strategically.
00:44:32.000And I feel like this year in particular, and really in the last three to four months, we have seen the rise of an actual legitimate America First movement.
00:44:42.000I would say it's, you know, a proto-movement.
00:44:45.000Nascent latent sort of political movement, but I really do feel like in the last three months some of the things we've seen in the last eight weeks in particular Really give me a lot of hope and optimism about where things are headed because here's an example of a guy Who is writing for big league politics, which is more or less?
00:45:02.000I mean, it's relatively a mainstream conservative publication and here's the guy used to write for that publication is now running for office He's running for office in
00:45:14.000He's able to get on a show like Tucker Carlson and on Fox News and Primetime say that he's in favor of a moratorium on legal immigration, calling out Turning Point USA, calling out Daily Wire.
00:45:25.000You know, this is after the Groyper Wars, everything that we've been doing.
00:45:29.000It really feels like the direction has changed and I think that this is the future of where we're at.
00:45:34.000I thought his rhetoric in particular is very solid.
00:45:36.000He said, we want a moratorium on legal immigration and Tucker said,
00:45:47.000You're just supposed to be against illegal immigration.
00:45:49.000And Pete said, well, we have to define what we mean.
00:45:52.000He said a moratorium on legal immigration means we want net zero immigration.
00:45:57.000200,000 people leave the country every year.
00:45:59.000If we could bring in 200,000 legal immigrants per year as opposed to a million,
00:46:04.000That would be a start for 10 years, he said, and he defended it on largely economic grounds, talking about how legal immigrants are coming in and taking middle class jobs.
00:46:13.000They're taking jobs away from college graduates, taking jobs away from STEM graduates in particular, in addition to taking working class people's jobs.
00:46:22.000You know, this is sort of the new phenomenon.
00:46:24.000Is the higher wage jobs or the college graduate jobs, the STEM jobs?
00:46:28.000And he said that we have to differentiate between the free market capitalism of Wall Street and the free market capitalism of Main Street.
00:47:01.000I think there is something viable, and this is why, by the way, a lot of people are beginning to bend the knee to the Gruypers, and they're listening to us, and they're retweeting our content, and they're saying these guys have good ideas.
00:47:47.000You know they are obviously more established and they have more resources and more money at the time but I think if anybody's been paying attention the last two to three months they can see clearly where the trajectory is.
00:48:20.000You know, when I say trust the plan, and I don't want to take credit obviously for Pete being on Tucker, you know, I'm not Tucker Carlson obviously, and you know, Pete and I have been mutuals for some time.
00:48:30.000I'm not taking credit for that, but I am saying trust the plan in the sense that this
00:48:34.000America First, optics, strategy, persuasiveness, all the things we've been talking about for the past two years are finally bearing fruit.
00:48:42.000And they're changing the conversation.
00:48:44.000And ultimately, once they change the conversation, you'll change outcomes.
00:48:51.000I think after 2020, maybe in 2022, 2024,
00:48:55.000Could we see candidates in several states or dozens of states like Pete D'Abrosio advocating for a moratorium on legal immigration?
00:49:03.000Could we see that, you know, just in the same way that you had congressmen running in 2018 inspired by Donald Trump, could you have people running in 2022 and 2024 inspired by America First?
00:49:17.000You know, in other words, building upon what Trump did in 2016 and incrementally moving the window rightward, moving the conversation, and subsequently moving policy rightward?
00:49:29.000You know, and a lot of people have gotten on my case in the last, you know, couple of months because we support Donald Trump.
00:49:35.000A lot of people said, and I think Milo brought this up when I was on the Milo show on Friday.
00:49:40.000He said, well, you know, Donald Trump is a Zionist, and Donald Trump is in favor of homosexuals, and Donald Trump is in favor of mass legal immigration.
00:49:48.000So that begs the question, if you're a Trump supporter, you know, what do you have to say about all these, all these discrepancies?
00:49:54.000What do you have to say about all these obvious differences, which seem to be pretty consequential and foundational?
00:50:00.000And I've been hearing a lot of the same from Wignets and other characters.
00:50:03.000They say, oh, well, but you're still voting for Donald Trump.
00:50:06.000Of course we have to take what Donald Trump did, the movement that he created, which is not necessarily so much about Donald Trump himself or his platform in particular, it's about the right wing, specifically nationalist and populist right wing,
00:50:21.000Standing up against the establishment.
00:50:49.000I was traveling, I was on the show, I was on a stream the other day, but I did just want to point out I saw that interview on Friday.
00:50:56.000It's so important that we acknowledge the kind of progress that that represents.
00:51:00.000That this is a primetime show on Fox News on Friday and you've got a congressional candidate saying we did a 10-year moratorium on legal immigration and the host is sympathetic.
00:51:10.000That's huge, huge and very white-pilling.
00:51:13.000And it's important to say that too because I know last week
00:52:06.000They were standing up against pornography.
00:52:08.000This is the big conversation that was being had.
00:52:11.000And the conversation actually originated with a letter authored by four Republican congressmen last week.
00:52:17.000And here's a little article about this from National Review.
00:52:20.000It's interesting because a lot of people picked up on the conversation.
00:52:23.000I don't think as many people picked up on where it came from.
00:52:26.000But this is what I think kicked it all off.
00:52:29.000It says four Republican representatives have sent a letter to Attorney General Bill Barr calling on the Department of Justice to enforce obscenity laws as a means of reducing hardcore pornography that meets the legal tests for obscenity, especially pornography involving children.
00:52:45.000The Internet and other evolving technologies are fueling the explosion of obscene pornography by making it more accessible and visceral.
00:53:13.000This explosion in pornography coincides with an increase in violence towards women, which is terrible, and an increase in the volume of human trafficking as well as child pornography.
00:53:24.000In a comment provided to National Review via email, Banks outlined what he sees as the chief harms from this increased exposure to pornography.
00:53:33.000He says quote an online obscenity in pornography or rather as online obscenity in pornography consumption have increased so too is violence towards women overall volume of human trafficking has increased and is now the third largest criminal enterprise in the world.
00:53:49.000Child pornography is on the rise as one of the fastest growing online businesses with an annual revenue of over three billion dollars.
00:53:56.000The United States has nearly 50 percent of all commercialized child pornography websites.
00:54:01.000Pornography is ubiquitous in our culture and our children are being exposed at younger ages.
00:54:06.000Nine in every 10 boys under the age of 18 have seen porn.
00:54:10.000Children are struggling with pornography addiction.
00:54:13.000The representatives note in their letter that 15 state legislatures
00:54:38.000But, as the congressman notes, under President Obama's administration, Attorney General Eric Holder disbanded the Obscenity Prosecution Task Force in the Criminal Division of the Justice Department, which had prioritized prosecuting obscenity cases.
00:54:52.000Now, these representatives urge Barr to, quote, declare the prosecution of obscene pornography a criminal justice priority and make it a defining issue of the Trump administration.
00:55:06.000This to me is what kicked off the conversation because I don't think anybody was talking about porn before this.
00:55:11.000And it's very interesting where people have sided on this issue.
00:55:17.000I've been surprised that some people have gone in favor of this letter and the spirit of this letter, some people going even a little bit further.
00:55:40.000of the 21st century obviously and more broadly about technology and about the genders and tradition and so on but also within conservatism because you do have and I've seen this you can look it up if you search up ban porn or you know anything pursuant or rather related to this article this weekend and you've got all the typical libertarian classical liberal type conservatives rushing to defend the pornography industry
00:56:20.000Rush to defend pornography even from regulation?
00:56:23.000You know there's been some, I will say there's been some variation in reaction to this letter and on this conversation in general.
00:56:30.000You know some people said outright ban porn.
00:56:32.000Some people said don't regulate porn at all.
00:56:34.000Some people in the middle say well you shouldn't ban it but there should be regulations.
00:56:38.000But there are people out there saying no no don't regulate it, don't ban it, just leave it alone.
00:56:43.000You've got this epidemic what again many states have called a public health emergency, a public health crisis.
00:56:50.000And of course we all know this if you know anything about internet porn or about the state of children and adolescence and sexuality today you know this is a crisis and people are saying we must do nothing or maybe we shouldn't do anything but certainly the government should not do anything.
00:57:06.000And what are the grounds under which people are defending ubiquitous legal internet pornography?
00:57:12.000Well, they say that if you start to ban pornography that it'll be a slippery slope and you'll have to ban other things.
00:57:18.000They say that banning internet pornography is a violation of the First Amendment, which I find, by the way, fascinating.
00:57:25.000The same conservatives that will come out and say, I should be banned from the internet, right?
00:57:30.000The same conservatives that will come out and say, Twitter does not have to abide by the First Amendment because they're a private company.
00:57:36.000They will rush to defend pornography under the First Amendment.
00:57:40.000But they say, in other words, on totally conceptual grounds, that pornography must remain legal and unregulated.
00:57:48.000Their argument says that the only argument, the only contest against a porn ban, or porn regulations, is conceptual.
00:57:58.000If you ban porn, you're violating some kind of unspoken social contract, you're breaking the rules, breaking this libertarian idea of individual liberty and
00:58:08.000I don't know, I guess the freedom of 11-year-olds to go on Pornhub.
00:58:13.000And on the other side, of course, you've got people saying either that you need severe regulations for porn, the Justice Department must prosecute hardcore pornography, we should regulate it to keep it from children, or some are saying to outright ban pornography.
00:58:38.000It is hurting, in particular, children and young people.
00:58:42.000Children and young people then grow up to be adults.
00:58:45.000And when people start on porn early, or they become addicted to it, or even if they just habitually use pornography, it damages their relationships with women.
00:58:53.000Because this is largely a male problem.
00:58:55.000We're talking about young men and young boys in particular.
00:58:58.000Not that women don't consume porn, but it is predominantly a male problem.
00:59:02.000These young men grow up and they find it hard.
00:59:05.000They struggle with finding girlfriends, with wives.
00:59:12.000The basis for these two positions, the basis for banning porn, is based on tangible harm, real harm to society.
00:59:21.000We see that something is hurting our children, it's hurting families, it's hurting marriages and relationships.
00:59:28.000In short, there's almost no tangible benefits from having this the way that it is,
00:59:33.000From having hardcore pornography being readily accessible and ubiquitous on the internet, and specifically available for young people, there is a tangible harm.
00:59:43.000And on this side, people are saying we should not regulate it, and we should not ban it because of something conceptual.
00:59:50.000Because of something that is totally abstract.
00:59:54.000Because to ban porn would violate principles of free speech, or the First Amendment, or something like that.
01:00:02.000And I find it amazing because here I think you see laid out pretty clearly, I think it's pretty hard to ignore, the major differences between libertarian conservatives and conservatives.
01:00:16.000First of all, you see that there is a difference in the first place.
01:00:19.000A lot of people deny that this exists.
01:00:22.000Because I think for the last maybe 10 years, I think you could say even the last 40 years since Ronald Reagan got into office, a lot of conservatives would obfuscate and say that libertarianism is conservatism.
01:00:35.000Individual liberty, small government, freedom to choose, secularism in some sense, is conservatism.
01:00:42.000Being opposed to big government is conservatism.
01:00:46.000But for 40 years people would conflate the two and they would deny that there's even a difference.
01:00:51.000You know, even in the last two to three months, people would say, oh, Nick Fuentes is not conservative, and the Groypers are not conservative, because they're hardcore Christians, and they're against legal immigration, and they're in some sense in favor of big government, or at the bare minimum, they don't care about small government.
01:01:07.000So, on one level, I think the cleavage on this issue, no pun intended,
01:01:14.000That people are siding on different sides of the porn issue shows that there is a substantial and significant difference between libertarian conservatives or conservatarians and actual traditional conservatives.
01:01:38.000And what does it mean to be a libertarian conservative?
01:01:41.000Well, in this argument more than any other, you see that the libertarian conservatives are autistically, perhaps, fixated and focused on abstract principles.
01:01:57.000They are not concerned about children.
01:01:59.000They are not concerned about families.
01:02:01.000In other words, they are not concerned about tangible consequences of things happening in our society.
01:02:07.000They are not concerned with tangible problems that people face every day, or tangible ways to solve them consequentially.
01:02:16.000They're concerned about abstract threats to abstract principles.
01:02:22.000Libertarian conservatives want to go back and forth about the size of government, and the role of government, and the relationship of government with its citizens.
01:02:35.000What does it mean, the size of government, the role of government?
01:02:39.000None of this has any practical reality.
01:02:42.000Conservatives have been talking about small government for 40 years.
01:02:46.000The United States government is the biggest government in the history of the world, and it's not changing anytime soon.
01:02:53.000And these libertarian conservatives, by the way, are fundamentally uninterested in shrinking it when it comes to things that actually matter, like
01:03:01.000Like when it comes to the Afghanistan war, or the Iraq war, or the coming war in Iran, right?
01:03:07.000So, in other words, the people on this side, libertarian conservatives, are concerned about things that are written about in books.
01:03:13.000They are concerned about abstract principles that happen on the plane of ideas, the marketplace of ideas, that, well, if we ban porn, what would that say about the founding documents and things like this?
01:04:22.000Porn is now ubiquitous, easily accessible, and it is more hardcore and deviant than ever.
01:04:29.000It's not just that kids are going down to 7-Eleven or they're going to the convenience store and they're buying a Playboy magazine where
01:04:36.000You know what, again, that's not to say that Playboy Magazine is good or there's nothing problematic about it, but you do have to go to a vendor in the real world, you know, with your face, your person.
01:04:47.000There are regulations put in place for buying magazines like this for what it's worth.
01:04:52.000And also, if you do acquire a copy of Playboy magazine, it is, you know, again, relative to what we're seeing online, normal, and I don't want to say tasteful, but relative to what we see online, it's not as extreme.
01:05:06.000What we're seeing now is that children, they could be as young as five, six years old.
01:05:11.000They say that some of the statistics are insane.
01:05:14.000It's like 20% of people under the age of 18 who have seen pornography are under the age of 9.
01:05:20.000You know, so we're talking about people, the average age is 11.
01:05:23.000But that means that people much younger than 11 are seeing pornography.
01:05:59.000It has also made it more hardcore and more deviant.
01:06:01.000Because people are accessing porn all the time, you know, people have talked about this issue of novelty.
01:06:08.000That when people are chasing pornography and the dopamine hit that it creates, or the serotonin, or whatever, the happiness chemicals that it triggers in your brain, eventually you build up something akin to tolerance like you would in drugs.
01:06:20.000And that's why you see homosexuality, transgenderism, all kinds of other deviant forms or expressions of sexuality are off the charts in terms of how many people are subscribing to that, how many people are engaging with that on a daily basis.
01:06:40.000We're not talking about pornography in the sense of Penthouse and Playboy magazines that you would have encountered 30 years ago.
01:06:46.000We're talking about ubiquitous, easily accessible, hardcore pornography that is being accessed by children on the internet with no regulation, no oversight, and which any child can stumble upon.
01:06:56.000And, you know, look at how many kids these days have
01:07:01.000Where they can find pornography anywhere using these things.
01:07:04.000And people are on these devices all day long.
01:07:07.000I'm on my iPhone like 10-12 hours a day.
01:07:10.000Imagine what it's like for a 10 year old or a 9 year old.
01:07:13.000This is the problem we're talking about.
01:07:15.000Pornography is shown to damage brains, it's shown to completely rewire how your brain works, how you think about sexuality, how you interact with women, or in the case of women consuming pornography, it's much less rare how they relate to men.
01:07:32.000Real conservatives see this, they see a tangible problem, and we want to put a stop to it.
01:07:39.000We don't want to start an advocacy campaign.
01:07:42.000We don't want to start an NGO or a non-for-profit and put up provocative advertisements that are going to try and get people to think about their porn habits.
01:07:51.000Hey, should you really engage with pornography?
01:07:53.000Hey parents, you should look at what your kids are watching.
01:07:57.000And we're supposed to hope that the problem solves itself?
01:08:00.000Pornography is a trillion dollar industry in this country.
01:08:30.000Destroy young men, destroy Christianity and social values because we don't want to get our hands dirty and start to obstruct or limit some of the things that are happening on the internet.
01:08:42.000A real conservative would say this is a real problem.
01:08:46.000It is a real threat to our children and we're going to put a stop to it by any means necessary.
01:08:52.000That might mean the government gets involved.
01:10:09.000The government should step in and at the bare minimum regulate it.
01:10:13.000At the bare minimum they should regulate this like financial transactions online.
01:10:17.000You know, why is it that you can't start a PayPal account without giving them your license and your bank account and all the rest but you can access hardcore pornography?
01:10:26.000At the bare minimum it should be regulated like that and at the most you should just ban it outright.
01:10:31.000And the question you have to ask yourself is what positive good
01:10:35.000Does it create for society to have internet pornography the way that we do?
01:11:26.000Well, if people want to go on the dark web, or people want to go to a different country, or people want to go and buy a Playboy magazine, well, let them.
01:11:32.000But why should we not begin to start to reel this in?
01:11:36.000Why should we not start to begin to move in the other direction?
01:11:42.000Nobody's arguing pornography will cease to exist if the government regulates it, but it won't be as bad as it is right now, and that's worth something.
01:11:50.000That is worth something for children, that is worth something for families, that is worth something for married couples.
01:11:57.000You gotta ask yourself, who is out there pushing this kind of stuff?
01:12:00.000You also have to examine your own biases.
01:12:02.000You know, a lot of people are okay with banning something that they don't have a problem with, right?
01:12:07.000That they don't struggle with, that they don't have an issue with.
01:12:10.000You know, for example, if you're not smoking marijuana, maybe you have no problem with banning weed, but if you use pornography, well, suddenly, oh, hey, we can't ban pornography.
01:12:19.000Or if you use pornography, but you don't smoke weed, you know, it's, it's, or vice versa.
01:12:24.000If you don't use pornography, but you smoke weed, well, yeah, ban pornography, but don't ban my weed.
01:12:30.000Take a look across the board at who is defending which of these different things.
01:12:34.000A lot of the times it's only the people that are addicted to it.
01:12:37.000It's the people that are in love with it.
01:12:39.000They don't understand the harm it's even doing to themselves that they're out there advocating for this stuff to remain the way it is.
01:12:47.000That in itself is indicative of the problem.
01:12:50.000We have to, you know, whether it's the whole country or if it's even a very small part of the country, we must do what is best for the society.
01:12:58.000That is what the government is supposed to do.
01:14:15.000There's trash in the streets, there is shit in the streets, human excrement, people are on drugs, you're talking about medieval diseases that are coming back, crime is coming back in a huge way, marriages are being destroyed, families are being destroyed, deviancy is being promoted.
01:14:33.000Do these conservatives have an answer for any of that other than to say, let the free market sort it out?
01:14:40.000In other words, keep subscribing to CRTV.
01:14:49.000Just keep going to work tomorrow morning and just trust that the free market and all these professional advocates and self-perpetuating systems, that one day that'll produce a good outcome.
01:14:59.000I think the country is hell right now.
01:15:31.000From Hillbilly Elegy, we're supposed to have more consortiums and more conferences and symposiums of intellectuals jerking each other off, again, no pun intended, in this show, in this conversation, while our country slips through our fingers while we watch, while our children are being corrupted every day.
01:15:51.000We have to have a movement that has answers.
01:15:54.000We have to have a movement that's willing to take action, that's willing to do something about it.
01:15:59.000Get in the government and pass a law that says the people making hardcore pornography will be put in jail.
01:16:06.000The people responsible for destroying and hollowing out our society will be put in jail.
01:16:12.000We need somebody willing to say and do that.
01:16:15.000If you look at some of these... and we know who's producing the pornography, by the way.
01:16:18.000It's the same people producing the wars and producing the mixed-race advertisements and the people producing all these Hollywood pictures.
01:17:05.000They created algorithms, they hired Google engineers, they hired engineers from foreign countries to come over here and to write SEO-friendly search algorithms so that 11-year-olds would find this stuff and get hooked on it and they'd be addicted for life.
01:18:05.000We need people that are real conservatives, that actually care about the people they're representing, and not the donors that pay for their campaigns.
01:18:20.000It's not right to advocate for this, and it's also not cool.
01:18:23.000You know, at the end of the day, I think what we represent, what is good about this show and our community, the Groipers, the Zoomers, whatever you want to call it, is we're showing there's also nothing cool.
01:18:37.000We will not allow Benny Johnson and Charlie Kirk and all these others to build themselves as a cool alternative to leftism when they're advocating for Zionist wars, right?
01:18:48.000Or they're advocating for pornography.
01:18:54.000And I think Zoomers are starting to realize that.
01:18:56.000They see all this inauthentic BS, fakers, phonies, people that are in on the take, and they see what's actually authentic, and that's Christianity, that's God, that's conservatism, that's lifting weights, not doing porn, all that, right?
01:19:09.000And they're starting to realize who's the real deal.
01:19:12.000So I am very optimistic seeing this conversation, and who is lining up on what side of the issue?
01:20:11.000I'm so sick of seeing the government go after our guys.
01:20:14.000Let's make the government go after our enemies, right?
01:20:17.000Everybody always says like, oh well, if you start to ban things that you don't like, well one day the government's gonna ban things that you do like.
01:20:25.000Okay, well then let's control the government.
01:22:23.000So it's okay, so it's you know people that are saying what's your citation versus pseudo philosophers that prattle endlessly I would say they're in the same we're talking about intellectuals intellectuals are they got to go they all got to go lab coats Togas I would not say they're togas maybe bow ties would be more apropos lab coats or bow ties Fixed it for you.
01:22:44.000I would say they're virtually the same.
01:22:46.000I mean they're both intellectuals that prattle endlessly about nonsense
01:22:50.000Jordan says the amount of Coomer conservatives that outed themselves this weekend has been a total vindication of the rising traditional right.
01:23:43.000It's sort of like I have two angels on either shoulder, you know?
01:23:47.000A Mossad agent and an Iranian, and a brave Iranian.
01:23:49.000A brave member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.
01:23:51.000A brave soldier of the Assad regime, right?
01:24:11.000You know, for every Zionist that tries to take me out, a brave soldier from Assad's army, a brave Iranian Quds Force specialist is guarding over me.
01:27:05.000I don't know if he tried to make me budge He was just you know, in some cases he was playing devil's advocate in some cases.
01:27:10.000He was just legitimately arguing but yeah, I think people and this is what is so frustrating is
01:27:18.000They, uh, maybe the expectation by some of the critics, critics, they're really haters, was I was gonna go on that show and compromise on everything.
01:27:27.000If you watch the interview, it was literally America First, but just on Milo's show.
01:27:32.000In other words, it was me saying all the things I say in America First to Milo in a conversation for a different audience.
01:27:39.000You know, which I think is, um, I don't know how that's supposed to be controversial.
01:28:36.000So Jake, Jake Lloyd, old Colgate from the war, you know, he's got some skills.
01:28:41.000Then again, Patrick Casey, you know, this guy is, uh, he works out, he's physically fit, he seems very practical, he's very much, um, he is a very by-the-book sort of a guy, you know, he's very, he strikes me as very disciplined.
01:31:15.000Yeah, the Constitution is pretty incredible.
01:31:17.000It has been used and invoked only to defend things that are bad for us, and brushed to the side to, you know, when they try to go after things that are good for us.
01:31:27.000So, political speech about immigration, race, that is not protected.
01:31:33.000Free speech on the internet, not protected.
01:32:09.000Somebody like this will go after you if you are not on board with mass immigration, as he did with me.
01:32:16.000Somebody like Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, yeah, okay, they might talk about banning porn.
01:32:20.000If somebody like us comes up and says, oh hi my fellow Catholic, I'm against porn as well.
01:32:26.000If you're not on board with them, with racial egalitarianism and all that, they are going to dox you, they're going to hurt you, they're going to call you white nationalist, and so on.
01:32:34.000So it is a necessary component, but it is not sufficient.
01:34:46.000I think it's somewhat disturbing on a certain level.
01:34:49.000Now again, I've got friends that are in mixed relationships, and there's nothing sinful about it, there's nothing morally wrong about it, but I just don't get it.
01:35:47.000And I don't know why that is so controversial.
01:35:49.000Like I said, and everyone's saying, oh, that's not an argument, Nick.
01:35:52.000But up until very recently, this is what everybody believed.
01:35:56.000And all of a sudden, because of this AstroTurf campaign for media people that hate you, now if you take the opposite position, and that's all people want to talk about to me, and they think it's such a vile position, why?
01:36:38.000Many such cases, yeah, you know, I say no e-girls, not even once, never, not even once, not even once, not even once, never, no e-girls, never, you know, and people say, just this one time?
01:36:51.000But, maybe just this one time, but maybe for me it'll be different?
01:36:54.000No, what part of never, not even once, don't you understand?
01:36:59.000But maybe just this one time, but for me it's different.
01:37:31.000I don't know what that means Yeet says Milo now.
01:37:35.000It's time to take some questions from the audience.
01:37:38.000I've never seen rape written in capital letters as much Yeah, angel of wrasses heathen pea brains be like but my dick.
01:37:44.000Yeah Killer bean says killer bean trust the plan good
01:37:52.000America First Jew says, remember we can't ban porn because we hate big government but we can spend trillions on foreign wars, spy on our citizens and censor BDS speech.
01:38:01.000It's funny you anticipated everything I just said on the show.
01:38:05.000Evner says glad to see you're woke on the DQ we aren't denying there was a meteor just that it wasn't that big keep naming the dinosaur lobby That was not it's funny people have said people have said that my take on dinosaurs was a dog whistle for the Holocaust it literally wasn't though these people have been like we have messed with their brains so much they think
01:38:27.000Like, if you don't believe a mainstream narrative, it's Holocaust denial.
01:38:30.000That is the level of neurotic paranoia that Jews are on.
01:38:35.000That I said, yeah, I don't know if I believe that dinosaurs are real, and they're like, that's Holocaust denial!
01:38:48.000And it's what it's that's a dog whistle for Holocaust denial literally how but you know what I did some research and by the way, I got the exact desired consequence or the desired outcome of saying that last week I said, you know, I find it hard to believe that dinosaurs are real and all I should all these science people just lost it.
01:39:58.000But they have a religious conviction in materialism, in nihilism basically, this sort of stardust ideology, and the slightest bit of ridicule.
01:40:09.000Oh, he doesn't even believe in dinosaurs!
01:41:27.000I forget who, I forget what channel it was, but they talked about how in Job, in the book of Job, they describe behemoth, and they describe all the different characteristics of the behemoth.
01:41:36.000You know, Job was questioning God, and God says, you know, how dare you doubt me?
01:41:40.000I created, you know, lions and, you know,
01:44:16.000Daniel says I loved your interview with Milo wish there was someone like you covering Australian politics and starting a movement over there Yeah, maybe lolly socks can do that, right?
01:44:26.000Rando number nine says we wouldn't have to have been we wouldn't have had to ban porn if you guys had voluntarily Participated and don't come December Okay, the cook says hey Nick.
01:44:37.000I'm a paleolithic caveman, but I identify as a zoomer Please validate me and give me a reason to stop coping so hard love the show, buddy
01:45:44.000It was fun Sun game says thanks a lot.
01:45:47.000Thanks John Smith says lollisocks is a cringe pedo bad optics.
01:45:51.000He's not a pedo, but whatever Our race is I believe everything the new TOS tells me to believe but sadly I feel if our leaders cared about us They wouldn't care about legal hurdles to banning porn They just give the Epstein prison treatment to the moguls making it our leaders don't care about us.
01:47:02.000So they weren't babies about it Maybe I watched their show that they did about Vox talking about me and I actually liked their content But if they would just stop being babies about it, I would go on their show
01:47:13.000True Seeker says, watch how the Kuma recoils as you threaten to take away a source of kumis.
01:48:36.000kakapupu says whatever happens America first is flexing in 2020 wherever you go we will follow shame on those not donating and buying gear trust the plan even if Nick does not have you or even if Nick does have you muted on D live same name yeah well you probably shouldn't have said something mute worthy
01:48:57.000But yeah, we are going to flex in 2020.
01:49:07.000Look, if you don't look at my record of what I've said, what I've accomplished, and so on, if you don't trust the plan, I'm not going to sit there and argue.
01:49:19.000And people that are gonna criticize and snipe from the sidelines and fling shit, people that should be on my side, they're just discrediting themselves.
01:49:26.000And when we win, when we continue to win over this year and the next year and so on, I hope everybody's just paying attention and who's been trusting the plan and who hasn't.
01:49:37.000I'm not gonna keep trying to tell people that have been losers and losing for years, here's why I'm winning, whatever, I'm done trying to justify it.
01:49:45.000I am winning, I will continue to win, and you can either get on the train or get off, but if you get off, fuck you, you're retarded, and you know, I'm not, I'm not gonna try and justify anymore, we're just gonna do our thing.
01:49:57.000That's exactly what happened to the Wignats.
01:50:00.000I know at the end of the year, in 2018, I said I'm done arguing with Wignats.
01:52:50.000Internet Explorer says I'm on the fence about applying for AIM, but I'm only available to contribute on a small scale Is it worth me applying or is it not for someone like me?
01:52:59.000I would say that if you're on the fence, you probably shouldn't do it because look I mean getting involved in a organization getting involved, you know in a You know if you're not just somebody participating on the outside, but you actually join a group and
01:53:34.000So, you know, if people are okay with that on some level or they're prepared for that, only then would I say to join a group.
01:53:42.000But joining a group inherently carries those risks, in my opinion.
01:53:46.000dumbasses libertarians be like 10 year olds having access to porn does not violate the NAP therefore it's perfectly fine yeah shrubbery says sticks hands 666 and my satanic panic okay funny funny
01:54:00.000Magazog says, I don't support regulations against pornography.
01:54:04.000I google... Okay, I'm not reading that.
01:54:20.000Sock says, I got out of libertarianism when they can't answer how to enforce NAP and their debates on social issues like age of consent is up to the free market.
01:54:30.000Under moral religious rule, that's not a problem.
01:55:29.000Blackpill is used very loosely when things don't go our way, but I've been very whitepilled for the past, like, three years.
01:55:36.000Jackson says, this hasn't really been noticed yet, but there is a black man in South Africa who made a video called Nick Fuentes is solid on YouTube expressing support for the movement and you only 100 views.
01:59:51.000I would say, you know, if you're on that stuff, gotta quit.
01:59:55.000Aeon says, I had a Polish Roman Catholic monarchist professor in grad school who once told me sexual liberation always ends in scatophilia.
02:00:14.000Dumbass says, just tells parents to raise their kids to avoid a billion dollar industry built to lure in young men and turn them into mush-brained slaves.
02:00:24.000Let's just tell people to live a virtuous life.
02:00:26.000You know, we've got multi-billion dollar companies, multi-trillion dollar industries designed to get your kids hooked on drugs and on pornography and steer them in the wrong direction and make them into slaves.
02:00:38.000We just have to convince people to not do that.
02:03:15.000I mean, she's obviously a degenerate pop star, satanic in a lot of ways, demonic, but I don't know if this is like... I don't know what you're getting at there.
02:03:24.000In the same way that they promote other pop stars, I haven't noticed, like, anything outsized about them promoting her.
02:03:31.000Brian says Nick Fuentes for president.
02:03:33.000Yeah Senpai says whoops scroll down too far Where was I I
02:05:05.000And so I just see Christianity fundamentally because of the resurrection.
02:05:10.000You know, I read Ed Fieser's Last Superstition and this basically convinced me of a lot of the theological arguments about monotheism and the nature of God and so on.
02:05:20.000And then what drives it home is do you believe in the resurrection?
02:05:23.000You believe, you sort of deduce the nature of God I think basically through reason, through intuition in some sense, but also if you read like Aquinas or Aristotle or some of these
02:08:04.000RJ says let the pornographers heads roll.
02:08:07.000Yes, you know in Minecraft certainly inner-city Democrats as you'd put pornographers drug dealers in jail But how would you deal with the Coomers stoners using it rehabilitation or punishment of any kind?
02:08:20.000I think with pornography I definitely wouldn't punish porn users I'll punish porn distributors
02:08:45.000People that use drugs in jail I would I would definitely there's a lot of people out there saying like oh you shouldn't punish drug users now you should maybe it's not as extreme as for drug dealers but you should definitely have a punishment even if it's fines minor jail time something like that maybe have a system of warnings I don't know I'm not a policymaker but we have to just go in that direction
02:09:06.000Bill the Butcher says, the powers that be know that porn turns you in a weak beta.
02:09:11.000If porn was banned, people might start to get more aggressive and manly and notice things.
02:09:16.000Yeah, there's certainly some truth in that, I would say.
02:09:20.000Let's see, Miss Juju Pants says, hey Nick, is there anything right-wing ladies can do to help?
02:09:31.000another wishful zoomer says great show tonight king your take on the pornography issue is on point also true knickers trust the plan never forget it's true can't be a true knicker if you don't trust the plan but thanks for that hey you've got some great content as well uh everybody's loving your content as well king so you keep it up too eskimo says ooga booga okay jv says yaron brooks wants to debate that kid fuentes who is yaron brooks
02:10:46.000Yolts says, not sure how versed you are on Gunstagram, but there's a big rift growing right now about demographics between Lulberts and Identitarians.
02:13:16.000Yeah, I caused like 50 bucks quick and I don't mean to be like, oh, I don't want to save money, but it's like here's a really good money saving tip.
02:13:24.000How often do you have to get your oil change and it's 50 bucks?
02:16:14.000Because even though we disagree on these things, it helps to have the conversation.
02:16:17.000It helps to introduce this into the dialectic.
02:16:20.000It helps to have a conversation because, you know, not everybody believes the things we believe.
02:16:25.000Some people support Milo, and they support Zionism, and they support religious, exclusively religious determinism, and they might be on board with homosexuality.
02:16:35.000And so to go on the show and have a debate, which, or a debate, maybe it's more conversational, but it is a disagreement, to flesh out our arguments and more importantly to expose them to a different audience,
02:16:46.000And to bring aboard more allies who at the bare minimum say that our views are legitimate, that is a good thing for us.
02:16:52.000I don't know why this is difficult to understand.
02:17:44.000AK says, E. Michael Jones seems to be down for going head-to-head against Dick Masterson and Sticks about the porn question on the Killstream.
02:17:52.000Maybe ask about it being two-on-two when you are on next?
02:17:57.000Let's see faking says actually the decay rate of carbon can be used to estimate the age of just kidding lmao yeah carbon dating's bullshit.
02:18:06.000Epic Turtle says the bro what does it say my bro mullet zoomer and I hope to see you at GLS okay.
02:18:13.000ASDF says went to my first county GOP meeting tonight I got asked by people including the chair if I wanted to run for office it's like they wanted to get groiked.
02:19:09.000I think, you know, she's right on regime change and really not much else.
02:19:13.000But thanks a beast is praying for you praying for your success your protection for you to have discernment and wisdom.
02:19:18.000Well, thanks John jonas is on demographics.
02:19:21.000The un admits that population reduction is directly related to female empowerment The opposite is also true repeal the 19th net taxpayers and military personnel earn the right to vote Population reduction related to feet.