R&B singer, singer, songwriter, hip hop artist, activist, actor, activist and social justice activist, Darryl Piggott, joins Jemele to discuss the current state of the music industry, the future of hip hop, and the state of our country.
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00:00:00.000If you run the ball, you get a wood on you.
00:00:05.000Leave the code to sack your breath, it's gonna happen backward cautious.
00:00:08.000And stick with your day one homies, but I was there before you started.
00:00:11.000Fear no man, but that man above your head.
00:00:13.000Pray before you go to bed, every day my mom was.
00:00:20.000The war on the bed doesn't seem to be drive.
00:00:23.000They take those projects, they stop fighting.
00:00:26.000Not my words, not my rules, I just enforce them, alright?
00:04:28.000And people don't realize what they have.
00:04:34.000And then nowadays, I am so upset that the things we did, the things we fought for, and the boys that died for it's all gone down the drain.
00:04:48.000Our country's gone to hell in a handbasket.
00:04:53.000We haven't got the country we had when I was great.
00:06:31.000This country is being ripped apart and raped and looted.
00:06:36.000We're being slowly poisoned and, in some cases, quickly murdered and assassinated.
00:06:43.000And we're killing ourselves every day.
00:06:45.000Inadvertently, with the kinds of things that we eat, breathe, and drink, and see.
00:06:50.000People have got to start to radically begin to obey their conscience and tell the truth and do the right thing.
00:06:57.000People have got to start to get courageous.
00:07:01.000And this is the time for everybody to turn and look to God and to pray and to ask for strength and to ask for wisdom to get through this time and to transform and sanctify this country.
00:07:15.000And the alternative is that there will be no country.
00:07:19.000Is it really only as big as low gas prices?
00:07:22.000Is it really only so big as bringing inflation and gas prices and the corporate tax rate back down?
00:07:29.000It's not about waiting for someone to come in and change the policy and make it better.
00:07:33.000It's a personal decision that we all have to make to become soldiers of Christ.
00:08:02.000My own narrative is not one of some sudden booming bolts of lightning out of the blue.
00:08:08.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
00:08:23.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
00:08:32.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Groika Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Shield Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty, of course,
00:08:47.000defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First Movement, who, through an increasing amount of activism, are really going to ensure the future and the success of that movement.
00:09:22.000it's not right In the days after the September attacks, there were countless rumors about strange coincidences surrounding the events.
00:09:38.000One report about a group of Middle Eastern men spotted the morning of September 11th, parked just across the river from New York City, has not gone away.
00:09:46.000They don't understand the things I say on Twitter.
00:09:57.000They don't understand the things I say on Twitter.
00:11:01.000Go to a nice suburb where the lawns are nicely kept, where the mailman walks around and delivers the mail, where people are walking their dogs and little kids are ice skating in the park, and people are driving around and they're driving clean cars and the houses are maintained and kept up.
00:11:22.000And you go down to the bakery and you get a coffee cake and you go to a nice restaurant at night and you pay your bill and you leave a nice tip and you go to the grocery store and you return your shopping cart and you don't take more than one sample and you wait your turn in line and you go to the, you know, we can't even get into the transportation.
00:11:44.000Maybe somewhere you go to a train station and people politely wait for people to leave before they enter.
00:11:49.000You go to an elevator and people wait for the people leaving the elevator before they get in.
00:13:24.000Or they're living more responsible lives, but similarly, just trying to soak it in while they still can.
00:13:32.000And ignoring, living in a sort of self-imposed nevite or delusion about what's going on just outside of the city gates, outside of the gated community, on the other side of the tracks, downtown, wherever.
00:19:26.000Yeah, pull up by side, yeah, pull up on them Now I got this bag on hats on them I'm straight out of these diamonds, I'm straight out of these lights Yeah, yeah, how you gon'save these bills?
00:19:39.000Yeah, turn up at my shop So at least just do it right Yeah, yeah We go out all night It gon'shut me big, gon'shut me big Gon'shut up all night It gon'share my drink, it gon'stir my cup It gon'share me all right They had a feeling, they big had a problem They make it, they jumpin'to flash up tweakin'We got the bills, they be puttin'by sight You out of your mind, you crazy, puttin'ya Got some head out of my lane, baby Bad in my mind, the willywan out of my pick.
00:26:10.000The President: Years from now, some of them may look back and ask themselves whether they've made the right choice, whether they've made the most of the opportunities they've been given.
00:32:10.000I'm better off to all my life Wasted, just get it loud Wasted, wasted, wasted I'm gonna be in love So wasted, wasted I'm gonna be in love Wasted, wasted, wasted I'm gonna be in love Wasted, wasted You can't pay the world with nations.
00:32:40.000The more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong, the more certain you should be that you must keep pushing ahead.
00:32:51.000Because it's the outsiders who change the world and who make a real and lasting difference.
00:34:17.000My entire narrative is not one of some sudden booming bolts of lightning out of the globe.
00:34:22.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
00:34:37.000And then finally, a point of no return recognition.
00:34:47.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Groiber Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Shill Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty and of course defending Nick Fuente and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First Movement who through an increasing amount of activism are really going to ensure the future and the success of that movement.
00:35:17.000Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Donald Trump, we're all cut from the same cloth and that cloth is very, very large.
00:39:32.000you gotta be losing money They, they see America merely as a vessel.
00:39:51.000I mean, only, only a class of people so rootless in their definition view America in such a way as merely a vessel for abstractions, right?
00:45:03.000When you remove the fear and love of God, you create the fear and love of everything else.
00:45:12.000I'd like to propose a toast to our people.
00:45:17.000I'd like to propose a toast to the Voiper, to white boy summer, white boy century, to the reaction and the reclamation of the United States.
00:47:45.000In the days after the September attacks, there were countless rumors about strange coincidences surrounding the events.
00:47:51.000One report about a group of Middle Eastern men spotted the morning of September 11th parked just across the river from New York City has not gone away.
00:48:00.000Nigger Howl Hitler Nigger Howl Hitler They don't understand the things I say on Twitter Nigger Howl Hitler They don't understand the things I say on Twitter All my niggas
00:48:18.000now, she's niggas howl Hitler Nigger Howl Hitler Nigger Howl Hitler Nigger Howl Hitler And the Romans?
00:48:34.000Nigger Howl Hitler They don't understand the things I say on Twitter All my niggas now, she's niggas howl Hitler Nigger Howl Hitler Nigger Howl Hitler All my niggas like she's niggas howl Hitler Nigger Howl Hitler I put the crumb on the bench.
00:50:43.000You know, against all the hate, against all odds, against all the snipes and the jabs and the fads and the journalists and the doubters, the traitors, the deceivers, the human beings got to rise up.
00:50:56.000And we got to do what must be done no matter what.
00:50:59.000With the power of God, with the will of God guiding us, God paving a path.
00:51:05.000We've got to rise up with our God-given strength.
00:55:20.000My voice says nothing but a screw fire.
00:55:26.000I stretch my hands on my grave just cause I'm just cause I brought something really interesting.
00:55:57.000In 2016, Donald Trump vowed that the United States would buy and, more importantly, hire Americans.
00:56:05.000But in June of 2024, during the all-in podcast hosted by his donor, David Sachs, he committed that he would not only expand work visas, but he would staple green cards to them.
00:56:20.000I cannot support this and I will not encourage my followers to turn out in November to vote for this or campaign for this.
00:56:31.000It is not an unreasonable demand to say that we will not vote for a candidate that promises to import more legal immigrants.
00:56:41.000And it is not unreasonable because for the first time in 20 years, it is the majority opinion that there are too many legal immigrants coming into the country.
00:57:13.000And Americans need to get used to saying that.
00:57:16.000Native Americans never get what they ask for because they're always telling themselves and negotiating with themselves, telling us it's good enough.
00:57:24.000We need to hear the words, immigration moratorium, no more immigrants, no more.
00:57:31.000Not since he announced his reelection campaign in November 2022 have I told anybody to vote for Trump.
00:57:40.000When pushed for details on the policy, clearly they are repeating the same script as every other Republican, and they show that they're really not serious about mass deportations.
00:57:51.000For that reason, I actually don't believe that illegal immigration will fall to historic lows.
00:58:00.000And this is your America first policy.
00:59:57.000On em, yeah, pull up by side, yeah, pull up on em Now I got this bag with my hats on em I'm straight out of these diamonds, I'm straight out of these lights How you gon'save these bills, how you gon'save these lights?
01:00:11.000Yeah, turn up at my show, at least just do it right Yeah, yeah, we go all night You gon'save me big, gon'save me big, gon'shut up all night You gon'save my drink, you gon'save my cup, you gon'save me all right I got the feeling that they got a problem, I'm making it tough, I'm tweaking We got no dust in the blood, I'm sliding you out of your mind, you crazy, freaking That's what we're out of my lane, bad in my mind, I'm really, but out of my freaking Know that you lovin'these lights, you lovin'this world, we runnin'in big every weekend Shit in love with me every time I know, what's you leaking?
01:00:41.000All y'all drunk inside this life's that world, y'all get to run the bed up every weekend.
01:00:47.000Now you see I'm put off on the tape and you say that I'm bad for no reason.
01:08:21.000And people don't realize what they have.
01:08:26.000And then nowadays, I am so upset that the things we did, the things we fought for, and the boys that died for, it's all gone down the drain.
01:08:40.000Our country's gone to hell in a handbasket.
01:08:46.000We haven't got the country we had when I was great.
01:10:24.000This country is being ripped apart and raped and looted.
01:10:29.000We're being slowly poisoned and in some cases quickly murdered and assassinated.
01:10:35.000And we're killing ourselves every day.
01:10:38.000Inadvertently, with the kinds of things that we eat and breathe and drink and see.
01:10:43.000People have got to start to radically begin to obey their conscience and tell the truth and do the right thing.
01:10:50.000People have got to start to get courageous.
01:10:54.000And this is the time for everybody to turn and look to God and to pray and to ask for strength and to ask for wisdom to get through this time and to transform and sanctify this country.
01:11:08.000And the alternative is that there will be no country.
01:11:11.000Is it really only as big as low gas prices?
01:11:15.000Is it really only so big as bringing inflation and gas prices and the corporate tax rate back down?
01:11:22.000It's not about waiting for someone to come in and change the policy and make it better.
01:11:26.000It's a personal decision that we all have to make to become soldiers of Christ.
01:11:55.000My own narrative is not one of some sudden booming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
01:12:00.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
01:12:15.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
01:12:22.000Why are you called Bonnie Melton this morning?
01:12:25.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Grouka Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Shield Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty, and of course defending Nick Fuente and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First Movement,
01:12:47.000who, through an increasing amount of activism, are really going to ensure the future and the success of that movement.
01:13:15.000that's not right In the days after the September attacks, there were countless rumors about strange coincidences surrounding the events.
01:13:30.000One report about a group of Middle Eastern men spotted the morning of September 11th parked just across the river from New York City has not gone away.
01:13:39.000They don't understand the things I say on Twitter.
01:13:50.000They don't understand the things I say on Twitter.
01:13:56.000All my niggas now, she's making a sound.
01:14:54.000Go to a nice suburb where the lawns are nicely kept, where the mailman walks around and delivers the mail, where people are walking their dogs and little kids are ice skating in the park.
01:15:08.000And people are driving around and they're driving clean cars and the houses are maintained and kept up.
01:15:15.000And you go down to the bakery and you get a coffee cake and you go to a nice restaurant at night and you pay your bill and you leave a nice tip and you go to the grocery store and you return your shopping cart and you don't take more than one sample and you wait your turn in line and you go to the, you know, we can't even get into the transportation.
01:15:36.000Maybe somewhere you go to a train station and people politely wait for people to leave before they enter.
01:15:42.000You go to an elevator and people wait for the people leaving the elevator before they get in.
01:17:06.000And many people are just trying to enjoy the last hurrah before it's all over.
01:17:12.000People are living lives of hedonism, taking advantage while they can.
01:17:17.000Or they're living more responsible lives, but similarly, just trying to soak it in while they still can.
01:17:25.000And ignoring, living in a sort of self-imposed naivete or delusion about what's going on just outside the city gates, outside of the gated community, on the other side of the tracks, downtown, wherever.
01:22:21.000Because if there are thousands and millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians ready to meet their final destiny, then nothing can stop us and nothing will.
01:30:12.000Years from now, some of them may look back and ask themselves whether they've made the right chance, whether they've made the most of the opportunities to take it.
01:35:56.000I know I saw it flip the face, so I'm crying, see it through my eyes, saw it flip the face, so I'm crying, see it through my eyes, but I'm better at the old man.
01:36:04.000There's a lot of fun I'm a bracelet You can send a Hand To consider Them underline Çačiu Celaến Take a look at нес punishment Only a doctor But I'm running out of patience She told me in shock Trying to get closer to sleep
01:36:33.000The more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong, the more certain you should be that you must keep pushing ahead.
01:36:44.000Because it's the outsiders who change the world and make a real and lasting difference.
01:38:10.000My entire narrative is not one of some sudden moving bolts of lightning out of the blue.
01:38:15.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blips and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
01:38:30.000And then finally, a point of no return record.
01:38:39.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Greco Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Shill Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty, and of course defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First Movement, who through an increasing amount of activism are really going to ensure the future and the success of that movement.
01:39:09.000Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Donald Trump, were all cut from the same cloth.
01:51:38.000In the days after the September attacks, there were countless rumors about strange coincidences surrounding the events.
01:51:44.000One report about a group of Middle Eastern men spotted the morning of September 11th parked just across the river from New York City has not gone away.
01:51:52.000Nigger Howl Hitler Nigger Howl Hitler They don't understand the things I say on Twitter Nigger Howl Hitler They don't understand the things I say on Twitter All my niggas
01:52:11.000now, she's niggas howl Hitler Nigger Howl Hitler And the Romans, where are they now?
01:52:26.000You're looking at the message We paved the way with our corpses.
01:52:48.000Roypers and all the alt-riders that got banned, all the alt-riders that got slandered, even people that killed themselves.
01:52:56.000Our corpses paved the way for you now to walk over.
01:53:00.000And you can't give us acknowledgement.
01:54:36.000You know, against all the hate, against all odds, against all the snipes and the jabs and the fads and the journalists and the doubters, the traitors, the deceivers, the human beings got to rise up.
01:54:49.000And we got to do what must be done no matter what.
01:54:52.000With the power of God, with the will of God guiding us, God paving a path.
01:54:58.000We've got to rise up with our God-given strength.
02:03:21.000It is an agenda bill because it puts together a lot of different major items that Trump promised in the campaign, like, for example, the extension of the corporate tax cut from 2017, as well as the no tax on tips and a number of other tax cuts and tax breaks.
02:03:39.000It includes a major, major investment in the southern border, as well as interior enforcement, which is a budget for ICE detention centers, ICE agents, among other things.
02:03:54.000And there's a lot of different things that have gone into this bill, many of them popular, many of them unpopular.
02:04:00.000And we're in this situation because of how the bill is being passed.
02:04:05.000And we'll get into this in a lot of detail tonight.
02:04:09.000It's a massive bill, and it's very controversial what is included in it.
02:04:15.000And I've given my opinion on the bill before.
02:04:17.000I don't like it, but I think it should pass.
02:04:20.000I think it should pass because of the immigration provisions.
02:04:23.000But I've seen a lot of people say on Twitter, they say, why does it have to be this way?
02:04:29.000Why does the bill have to include all of the things?
02:04:34.000For lack of a better expression, all of the things.
02:04:37.000Why does the bill have to include everything?
02:05:31.000And so they call this the filibuster rule.
02:05:32.000That's why everything requires 60 votes, not 51, but 60 votes to pass, except for one special set of circumstances.
02:05:44.000It's called the budget reconciliation process.
02:05:47.000And we'll get into detail on what that means.
02:05:50.000But the reason why it has to be this way, why it's so controversial, why it's 10 pounds of shit in a five-pound bag, is because we need to use the budget reconciliation process to get anything passed.
02:06:02.000And in order to do that, we basically need a grand bargain between the various wings of the Republican Conference, and that is the Republican representatives in the House and the Senate, to get what we want on immigration.
02:06:20.000We'll talk about the process, how we've gotten here, because the bill was debated in the House and it passed a few weeks ago by one vote, literally one vote.
02:06:31.000The Republicans have a very slim majority in the House, and it passed by one.
02:06:35.000It went into the Senate, and after a lot of debate, eventually it passed the Senate, 50-50.
02:07:47.000We're also going to talk tonight about my debate with Dinesh D'Souza last night.
02:07:52.000Yesterday, I debated Dinesh on the war in Iran.
02:07:57.000And I was actually surprised that he agreed to do it because, as you know, I've been trying to debate people on the subject and on a variety of things.
02:08:08.000I have called out Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, Tim Poole, Patrick Bed David, Piers Morgan, Tucker Carlson.
02:08:19.000I have called out all of these people, every single one of them.
02:08:23.000And every single one of them has called me out.
02:08:27.000Steven Crowder had some nasty things to say about me.
02:08:31.000Ben Shapiro has had many nasty things to say about me.
02:08:53.000They know they're going to get destroyed.
02:08:55.000They know I'm going to utterly annihilate and humiliate them.
02:08:59.000And they're going to look like idiots and everyone's going to say that I won.
02:09:03.000So I was surprised, with that out of the way, I was surprised that he agreed to do the debate because nobody ever debates me, even though I try.
02:11:43.000That's why I do what I do because I'm passionate about it.
02:11:46.000And I am a massive believer in having the discussion.
02:11:51.000And I think that when you have a level playing field, when both people are able to talk and both people are acting in good faith, I think the ideas win.
02:12:02.000I think that when you actually sit down and it is a head-to-head confrontation on the question of Israel, on the war in Iran, on all this kind of stuff, I don't think you need flourish.
02:12:56.000And not only was it watchable and I think entertaining and informational or informative, I should say, and enjoyable, I think I won as well.
02:14:44.000This was maybe the most mainstream conservative that I've ever debated before.
02:14:49.000I've been doing this for over eight years.
02:14:51.000I started my show in February 2017, this show, America First.
02:14:57.000And ever since then, as you know, it has been an uphill battle and a struggle not to break into the industry, not to make a name for myself or build an audience.
02:15:26.000Ever since I started, because I voiced opinions that were outside the mainstream on race and on Israel and on Jews, for those reasons, I was blackballed.
02:15:38.000And there was a concerted effort from the time I was 18 years old.
02:17:06.000And then they took it public and they said, this guy, they would take my clips out of context and they'd say, this guy's a hateful racist, white supremacist.
02:17:14.000Then when the right wing moved to the right and they embraced all my positions, they embraced my criticisms of anti-white racism.
02:17:24.000They embraced my repudiation of the LGBT social revolution.
02:17:29.000They embraced my emphatic rejection of dual allegiance and dual citizenship and foreign wars and all the rest of it, legal immigration.
02:17:39.000Then the whisper campaign became, he's a federal agent.
02:17:44.000He's a divide and conquer federal agent.
02:17:46.000Anyway, without getting into the expanded history of my life and my career, the most difficult thing for me has been repairing this reputational damage and trying to gain access to the industry.
02:18:03.000I've built up a big show and a big following and I've made a name for myself with zero institutional anything.
02:18:10.000They won't let me on any show, any conference, any fucking thing, forgive the language, but they won't let me through the door.
02:18:18.000They have gatekept me for the better part of a decade.
02:18:22.000And so this was such a monumental debate because this is a fixture.
02:18:28.000Dinesh D'Souza, whatever your feelings are about him, without a doubt, he has been truly a fixture in the right wing for 25 years and maybe even longer than that.
02:19:08.000But this was a big opportunity for people that maybe never gave me a chance, people that only believe what they heard about me secondhand or they saw a clip or they don't like me for one reason or another.
02:19:21.000This was an opportunity where they could see what I'm really about.
02:19:25.000And so for that reason, it turned into a big platform, in my opinion.
02:19:31.000He is a mainstay of mainstream conservatism.
02:19:34.000You could say he's a standard bearer of a certain kind of conservative culture warrior from a different generation.
02:19:42.000And I think I represent a culture warrior from my generation.
02:21:14.000And I laid out, in my opinion, a very technical case.
02:21:19.000I laid out the case that I've made on my show.
02:21:23.000And the key thing that I sought to reframe about the conflict is this.
02:21:28.000Whether you agree with this or not, and I know most of you do not, but many of the American conservatives, you could call them boomers, you could call them mainstream conservatives, whatever you want to say.
02:21:41.000Mainstream conservatives believe that going to war with Iran is a good thing.
02:23:55.000The Israel lobby, the pro-Israel crowd, whether they be evangelical Zionists or national conservatives or Jews themselves, they are also pretty skilled at persuasion.
02:26:36.000It's like a bucket of ice water, to borrow an expression.
02:26:40.000You go on this show and it is like you're stepping out of Plato's cave.
02:26:45.000You're getting hit with the full broad daylight and you see the whole thing.
02:26:49.000But we are in the minority of the minority.
02:26:52.000It's a section of a section of the right wing that is with us.
02:26:55.000And so I went into this debate with that in mind.
02:26:59.000We're going to have this, you know, you go into a debate not to persuade the people that are already supporting you, but to persuade the people that are not.
02:27:07.000And so it's very important to me going into the debate to reframe the issue from an analytic perspective, because the reason that so many people supported the strikes on Iran is because they are guzzling the propaganda about Iran and about the conflict.
02:27:24.000In the mind of your average conservative, they believe that Iran is chanting death to America.
02:27:30.000We're the great Satan, Israel's the little Satan, and Iran is racing towards a nuclear bomb like they always have been.
02:27:38.000They want to get one and use it against us.
02:27:41.000And the argument goes, why not take a chance and bomb their nuclear program?
02:27:48.000The argument went, we're not invading.
02:27:51.000We're not even necessarily seeking regime change or trying to affect it ourselves directly, but we're going to bomb them now that Israel has cleared the runway.
02:28:01.000And then we're going to go home and we're going to say mission accomplished and it's America first because we're not neocons, but we're not isolationists.
02:28:10.000And so I went into it with the goal of reframing it from our perspective, from the realist perspective, which is to say, let's go back to the beginning of the story.
02:28:37.000Well, the reason they have the ability to make one but haven't made one yet is because they're hedging their bets with their security situation in mind.
02:28:46.000They fear regime change because the United States did regime change there once and because we've done it to all of their neighbors in the past 30 years.
02:28:56.000They know that if they don't have a deterrent, they're next.
02:29:00.000But if they acquire a nuclear bomb, they're going to be next anyway.
02:29:04.000That will invite the United States to intervene.
02:29:07.000I said, so from an analytic perspective, this is how we have to approach the subject matter is to understand what is the state of play and what is the strategy?
02:29:20.000What is the calculation behind why things are the way that they are?
02:29:24.000I said, because once we begin to analyze this, then we can begin to understand what America's Role should be in the conflict.
02:29:32.000And that's really where I started from.
02:29:34.000And as predicted, and credit to Dinesh for being intellectually honest on some level, he presented the argument that he's always presented for 20 years, which is that Iran is an Islamist theocracy.
02:29:53.000We must take them at their word when they say death to America, and that's why we should intervene.
02:29:58.000And he said he's not in favor of boots on the ground and this sort of thing.
02:30:02.000He said, but we should take action against Iran to make our country safe.
02:30:08.000And so the debate went, I think, about how you would expect.
02:30:11.000I think I answered and sort of unraveled a lot of these assumptions that were made.
02:30:16.000For example, the death to America thing.
02:30:19.000They will always cite one or another cleric in the Iranian government, Iranian society, and say, oh, well, you know, so-and-so said we're going to destroy America.
02:30:30.000And I said, well, the top of the Iranian government, the head cleric, said they're not going to get a bomb.
02:30:58.000And people say, well, but later you talk about how Iran wants a nuclear weapon.
02:31:04.000Now, the reason you spell that out is to say we can't just look at what they say.
02:31:09.000To go out and make this argument that we have to bomb Iran because they say death to America, and that's good enough evidence.
02:31:17.000We're going to take them at their word.
02:31:19.000Our cause of war is they said death to America.
02:31:22.000I'm trying to introduce the idea that rhetoric signaling is part of a foreign policy.
02:31:29.000What the supreme leader says, what the foreign minister says, what members of the Iranian parliament say, these words they say, they're not the end-all, be-all.
02:31:40.000You have to look at the decision-making that underlies those words.
02:31:44.000You have to look at the calculation and the strategy that underlies them.
02:31:48.000Because words are words and words can be rhetoric and words can be used in the context of foreign policy.
02:31:54.000We have to go deeper into their foreign policy.
02:31:56.000I said, once we begin to unpack the history of the region, then it's very clear what's going on here, which is we're trapped in this three-way paradigm where Israel wants regime change to make themselves safe.
02:32:11.000Iran wants a nuclear weapon to make themselves safe against Israel.
02:32:16.000And the United States is seeking non-proliferation, or rather, we don't want them to have a nuke to make our world safe because we're the hegemon of the world.
02:32:28.000And this is the three-way problem that we're in.
02:32:31.000Now, once we, and I'm not going to lay out the whole case, but I said, once we unpack that, that's the fundamental undercurrent that is driving all of these events, then we can begin to understand relationally what our role is and what we should do here.
02:32:48.000And I said, once we understand this, we can see that our foreign policy, our objective is distinct from Israel's.
02:32:55.000Israel wants regime change that is causing Iran to have a nuke, and we don't want them to have a nuke.
02:33:03.000But our position then is different than Israel's.
02:34:12.000Israel is driving us to have regime change, the consequences of which could be catastrophic, at the minimum are unpredictable, and could draw us in into a wide conflict, an unpredictable conflict.
02:36:00.000He brings together Adolf Hitler, the Ayatollah of Iran, Barack Obama, Robert E. Lee, Richard Spencer, and Nick Fuentis are all spring from the well of the Democrat Party founded by Andrew Jackson in 1824.
02:36:20.000And I knew, I knew that's where I should have known that's where it was going.
02:37:08.000They're all in the same uni party, the political establishments of both parties, as well as the permanent bureaucracy, which is inside the government.
02:37:20.000I said, whether it's the Pentagon or the intelligence community, I said, these guys are literally the same people, and they've been pursuing really the same foreign policy uninterrupted for 30 years since the end of the Cold War.
02:37:33.000There's not a lot of daylight between them.
02:37:36.000And he came back and said, well, you know, there's no daylight between Republicans and Democrats.
02:38:24.000I think we covered a lot of ground and a lot of information.
02:38:27.000And I think both sides were really presented.
02:38:30.000And when you consider that, once again, when you consider the context of the debate, here you have a mainstay.
02:38:38.000You have one of these solid conservative culture war figureheads, a true standard bearer of the previous generation of conservatism.
02:38:50.000You could call it the Tea Party, whatever you want to call that.
02:38:54.000He in the heyday of Fox News and talk radio and the conservative culture war was one of the fixtures and knows everybody and was a part of the Hoover Institute and American Enterprise Institute and published a dozen books and all this kind of stuff.
02:39:11.000When you consider that that was him coming up against me, the most canceled American ever, the anti-semite groiper leader, Holocaust and all the stuff they say about me, they won't even dignify me with a response.
02:39:29.000The rest of it, when these two sides, and by the way, a guy that's educated at Dartmouth, a scholar who's authored 20 books, who's over twice my age, versus me, a college dropout, 26 years old, who's treated the way I have been,
02:39:46.000for us to go and sit down and without relying on rhetorical tricks, polemics, anything like that to make the case and for it to be so stark, that's just an unbelievable victory for our side.
02:40:01.000In other words, you get a titan of the conservative mainstream versus the rebel leader, the leader of the underground, the leader of the streets, the opposition.
02:40:16.000And without any cheating, without any bad blood, you know, there's no one can complain it wasn't fair.
02:40:28.000When you have one guy saying, well, you know, you sound like a Democrat and the mullahs want to kill us all and you sound like Obama.
02:40:36.000And the other guy is saying, well, you know, we're going to have an analytic framework and we have to understand how Iran is calibrating and we have to separate out the objectives of every country.
02:40:47.000And when you have one side that's so much more obviously compelling and has much greater depth than on the merits, just decisively wins the engagements, I think that's a huge breakthrough for our side.
02:41:01.000And, you know, like I said, I've been a little preoccupied with this.
02:41:07.000If you looked at the poll, 80% of people said I won the debate.
02:41:13.000I don't know if that's a function of my audience is more engaged or that's just who was watching it, but I did see some people say, well, I was pulling my punches.
02:41:24.000I was not being aggressive enough, this sort of thing.
02:41:28.000And I will just say in the first place, in my defense, I am not someone that needs to restrain myself from attacking people.
02:41:36.000I'm, if you know me, anyone that has ever met me, anyone that knows me knows that I am an extremely polite person.
02:42:17.000And if you watch the show, you understand why that is.
02:42:20.000I have been on this journey for the past eight years, not because I'm a malicious troll, not because I'm a shit stirrer, an agent of chaos, like Jordan Peterson says, it's because I care about the ideas.
02:42:34.000I really, that's why I have a hunger for knowledge.
02:42:37.000That's why I have a curiosity because I actually care.
02:43:14.000My job is to bring the most masterful, most technically sophisticated debate that I am capable of bringing so that people can, the intelligent people can look at it on its merits.
02:43:25.000And so I guess people were mad that it wasn't blood sports.
02:43:29.000People were mad that it wasn't polemical, that it didn't, that I didn't lead with like, well, you know what?
02:43:35.000Israel causes every war in the world anyway.
02:44:12.000And I actually said this, I think, on Friday or on Monday.
02:44:16.000I said the next big hurdle for us, for this movement, is like, look, everyone's red-pilled now.
02:44:22.000And by everyone, obviously the mainstream is still blue-pilled, but the young people, the people that are online, the people that are engaged, like a lot of these people are deeply influenced by this movement, by Groipers, by the red pill.
02:44:38.000I said, but now the goal is to really dial in what we are and what we believe in.
02:44:44.000And that means we're going to need to get intellectual.
02:44:51.000We can't rely on, you know, this kind of stuff where we're saying Joseph Stalin was a crypto Jew and the moon isn't real.
02:45:01.000And, you know, Brigitte Macrone is Macrone's dad.
02:45:04.000And like, you know, this, all this other, we have to get away from the kookery and get away even from the shot jock type stuff, the engagement bait.
02:45:30.000The time now is to articulate a very serious, extremely compelling, fine, sophisticated, detailed program of our worldview, who we are, what we're about.
02:45:43.000And it was with that goal in mind that I engaged the way I did yesterday.
02:46:22.000We now have a general climate of liberalization.
02:46:25.000And by that, I mean openness towards these ideas.
02:46:28.000And now that that is the case, it's time to get away from the kind of senselessness and in some cases, cruelty and obtuseness that characterized that previous era where you kind of needed to be a battering ram and you needed to get attention, you needed to court attention and court outrage.
02:46:45.000It was just sort of a different system.
02:46:48.000Now we need to be in the business of ruthlessness, absolutely serious, elite human capital.
02:46:55.000We need to be laying the foundations, the bricks that are going to make up the foundation of our future edifice, of our future empire.
02:47:04.000And that starts with we have to take ourselves seriously enough to give our ideas a serious day in court and not rely on cheap insults, cheap, sophomoric, kind of lazy kind of thinking.
02:47:19.000And the last thing I'll say about it is this.
02:47:22.000They're sort of counting on us doing that.
02:47:24.000They're calling us low IQ anti-Semites.
02:47:27.000They're looking at some of, I'm not going to name names, but they're looking at some of the people that are advancing these talking points, and they're singling out the laziest ones.
02:47:38.000They're singling out the laziest ones, the most misinformed ones, and humiliating them.
02:47:44.000They're saying this person's criticizing Israel.
02:48:25.000Like I said a moment ago, they have sort of evolved.
02:48:28.000They're always evolving their vector of attack.
02:48:31.000They're always evolving their appeal that they're going to make.
02:48:34.000And I don't think those arguments stand up, but they're always modifying their approach.
02:48:40.000And if we get lazy and we just turn into this like, the Jews did it, dancing Israelis, remember the liberty, we have to be as sophisticated as they are.
02:48:53.000So that's how we're going to win in the long run.
02:48:57.000We really need the intellectual foundation.
02:49:02.000That means when Dinesh says these things, we have to deal with the things that he says because a lot of people believe them.
02:49:09.000We have to deal with them in a serious way.
02:49:11.000And we have to count on people being intelligent enough to hear that and listen for that and for them to be persuaded and for eventually for the old way to become anachronistic.
02:49:21.000You know, when we make our case forcefully and persistently and assertively and intelligent people hear it, eventually we will all be groipers.
02:49:33.000And the other stuff, it's literally just going to pass away.
02:50:11.000So for that reason, I thought it was a huge symbolic and real victory last night.
02:50:18.000And I hope that we can have more debates in the future.
02:50:21.000I hope that people like Steven Crowder and Charlie Kirk and Tucker, I hope they were watching or I hope they saw it or heard about it, Patrick Bed, David, Tim Poole, and I hope they can see I am a serious person.
02:50:59.000You're going to have to submit or you're going to have to defeat us, but you're not going to defeat us by running away and hiding and throwing out these same old tired arguments.
02:51:28.000I think anyone that was watching it, when you heard the one side and then you heard the other talking about, you know, you sound like Jimmy Carter, I think they're gassed.
02:51:38.000I think that other side, and I like Dinesh, he was friendly.
02:51:42.000Someone even made an Indian joke and he took it in good, in the way in which it was intended.
02:54:40.000When Trump won the election in 2024, he quickly got together with congressional leaders and said that he wanted, and this is where the name comes from, as opposed to having multiple bills that deal with different aspects of his agenda, he said, and this is very contentious, he said he wanted one big, beautiful bill that includes everything.
02:55:01.000In the early stages of the transition and then in the early days after the inauguration, there was a debate between the House and the Senate on whether they'd have one bill that would implement the tax agenda and one bill that would deal with the debt ceiling, which is looming later in the year, and another bill which would deal with everything else.
02:55:21.000And so initially, there was this contentious debate between the two chambers and the White House.
02:55:27.000Are we going to have multiple bills Or one bill.
02:55:32.000And the way that Trump marketed his preference, he said, I want one bill, one big, beautiful bill.
02:55:39.000And this is how it came to be known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.
02:55:44.000And what he wants in there is all of the big legislation that he promised during the campaign.
02:55:50.000Among those things are the corporate tax cut, the signature piece of legislation from Trump's first term, the 2016 Tax and Jobs Act.
02:56:03.000It manipulated some of the tax rates and lowered tax rates for income earners.
02:56:08.000But the biggest part of it is that it lowered the corporate tax rate from, I believe, 35% to 23%.
02:56:16.000A significant reduction in the corporate tax.
02:56:19.000It also changed how deductions worked.
02:56:23.000There was a lot of expensing for businesses.
02:56:25.000There was a lot more that they could write off on their taxes.
02:56:28.000And it also made it more attractive for people to take the standard deduction rather than to itemize their expenses.
02:56:34.000There's a lot of details there, but one of the biggest aspects of this one big, beautiful bill is extending those tax cuts, which are set to expire at the end of this year.
02:56:46.000So unless this bill passes with that extension in there, all the tax cuts expire and it becomes effectively a tax hike.
02:56:56.000It's a major tax hike on corporations.
02:56:59.000It's going to be a tax hike more or less for income earners.
02:57:03.000And it's also going to affect investment because, again, there won't be those expensing benefits.
02:57:36.000Then the next biggest thing is in order for Trump to deliver on a border wall and mass deportations, there needs to be a lot more money for customs and border patrol, as well as for ICE.
02:57:48.000And that means money for a border wall and for enforcement of the southern border, but also interior enforcement, that is deportations.
02:57:59.000So what this bill also does is it allocates $150 billion, which is huge over four years for building a border wall, $46 billion for a wall, and about $20 or $30 billion for border patrol agents, technology at the border, infrastructure at the border like detention centers.
02:58:21.000But also there's about $80 billion for interior enforcement.
02:58:25.000That means 10,000 more ICE agents, 100,000 detention beds, and just money for the department in general.
02:58:33.000The biggest problem with the border, it was almost engineered this way, is there just are not the resources to carry out a mass deportation.
02:59:29.000And we have like 40,000 beds across the whole country.
02:59:33.000Well, if you want to deport a million people per year, you're going to need more than this rotating set of 40,000 beds.
02:59:39.000So they want to have, they want to more than double the amount of beds in the country or add more than double the amount on top of what we already have.
02:59:47.000And then the border wall is self-explanatory.
02:59:50.000Now, just to put this into perspective about the border money, back in 2017, when Trump won the first time, he was putting together his proposal for the border wall back then.
03:00:03.000By January 2018, they came up with the proposal.
03:00:52.000By the time they passed the omnibus bill, later in the spring of 2018, they allocated $1.8 billion for fencing along the Rio Grande Valley region, and that's it.
03:01:06.000And then the same thing happened again after the midterms.
03:01:09.000In November 2018, during the lame duck period, Trump tried to get money for the border wall.
03:02:26.000Now, in order to secure concessions on all these things, there's been a number of other deals that have been made concerning clean energy tax credits, salt deductions.
03:02:38.000In order to pay for the corporate tax cuts, they're making major cuts to Medicaid.
03:02:47.000And the reason why is because Trump is not going to let his agenda get deferred.
03:02:53.000I think Trump knows, and I think even the MAGA Republicans are smart enough to understand, that what happened in the first term was denial by delay, which is to say, Trump came in in the first term wanting to close the border with a border wall.
03:03:11.000Now, Republicans didn't say, you can't have your border wall.
03:03:15.000What they said was, we'll do it later.
03:03:22.000When Trump got in in 2017, the Republican conference came together to make their agenda and they said, our first priority is repealing Obamacare.
03:05:24.000There's debates about protecting the supply chains for solar and whether the tax credits are incentivizing buying from China and therefore subsidizing their industry.
03:05:34.000There's arguments about salt deductions.
03:05:37.000The Republicans in New York have been lobbying for years.
03:05:50.000And a big thing is they want to raise the debt ceiling by $4 trillion or $5 trillion.
03:05:55.000And that's got fiscal conservatives angry because we're getting to a big crunch fiscally coming up very soon.
03:06:02.000But I think at the center of it is a lot of the Republicans, I think, don't want the immigration aspect of it.
03:06:09.000Now, the reason that they have to do it in this manner, a lot of people, like I said earlier, people are saying, well, if you have this issue, why don't you split up the bills?
03:06:21.000Ignoring the political reality, they say, why don't you split up the bills?
03:06:25.000And we'll vote on the least contentious thing, which is the border money, separately from the most contentious things like the debt ceiling, like salt, like the energy credits.
03:06:37.000The reason they have to package it into one is because of how they're passing it.
03:06:42.000They're passing it with a process called budget reconciliation.
03:06:47.000Like I said earlier, it gets a little technical here, but the rules of the Senate are such that in order to get any major legislation passed, any major political appointee confirmed in the Senate, you need 60 out of 100 votes.
03:07:01.000That's a super majority, not a simple majority.
03:07:05.000And that has to do with the rule concerning the filibuster.
03:07:08.000In order to end debate on any item, like a confirmation, like legislation, you need to invoke cloture to end debate, to end a filibuster.
03:12:26.000I think it won't have a major impact, but it's a big pain in the ass for Republicans.
03:12:32.000The other issue is that there are fiscal hawks inside the GOP like Rand Paul, like Thomas Massey, like members of the Freedom Caucus.
03:12:42.000And because there's such a slim majority in the House of only three votes, the Republicans need everybody on board to vote for it.
03:12:50.000And if you have a handful of them that say, we won't go with an increase in the debt ceiling, we won't go with more reckless spending, it's going to grind the whole thing to a halt.
03:12:59.000And so this is the extremely complicated situation that we find ourselves in.
03:13:05.000This is a story from the New York Times.
03:13:09.000It says, quote, President Trump's marquee domestic policy bill was stalled in the House on Wednesday.
03:13:16.000With the chamber frozen in place, as Speaker Mike Johnson labored to overcome resistance in his own ranks and pushed the measure to a final vote.
03:13:24.000After a day of private cajoling by Mr. Johnson at the Capitol and Mr. Trump at the White House, party leaders were optimistic that they might soon move ahead.
03:13:33.000But by the evening, they had yet to lock down the votes to do so, particularly among a block of fiscally conservative Republicans.
03:13:40.000Facing tight margins in the House, Mr. Johnson can afford only a small handful of defections, which would slash legislation, or I'm sorry, defections on the legislation, which would slash taxes by $4.5 trillion, increase funding for defense and border security, and cut nearly $1 trillion for Medicaid with further reductions to food assistance for the poor and other safety net programs.
03:14:05.000The bill got by the Senate by the narrowest of margins on Tuesday, but the changes that senators made to cobble together support for it exacerbated internal divides among House Republicans that have plagued their efforts to advance the agenda since the beginning.
03:14:26.000You can't please everybody in the House.
03:14:29.000You can't please everybody in the Senate.
03:14:32.000What is going to please everybody in the House is not going to please everybody in the Senate and vice versa.
03:14:38.000The House passed this bill by one vote a couple of weeks ago, and there was a deal.
03:14:45.000The budget hawks said, if you increase spending by anything more than a certain amount of money, you need to match that dollar for dollar with further cuts.
03:14:57.000If you have more spending or less revenue past a certain point, you know, the negative fiscal impact, you need to match those funds after that.
03:16:19.000It says that, rather an AI regulation moratorium.
03:16:24.000A negotiation happened with Marsha Blackburn in the Senate.
03:16:27.000Originally, they said for 10 years, there can be no regulations by any U.S. state on AI.
03:16:33.000She negotiated that down to five years.
03:16:36.000And I believe that as it stands, it's a five-year moratorium, but this is horrible.
03:16:40.000This means that if data centers are coming into your state, if AI becomes super advanced, there is no state in America that can put any regulations on the development of AI.
03:16:52.000Safety regulations, environmental regulations, complete moratorium on regulating AI.
03:17:49.000We have anywhere from 10 to 40 million, maybe more than that, illegal immigrants living here.
03:17:55.000We don't even know how many there are.
03:17:57.000And just in the same way that APAC influences Congress, which Massey talks about, so does having 20 to 50 million illegal aliens who are counted in the census, who in some cases vote in local elections, who are obviously influencing the composition of our country and how it is.
03:18:16.000You can't be for one and against the other.
03:18:20.000You have to be against foreign influence across the board.
03:18:23.000What is happening is that right now, Trump is keeping illegal immigrants from entering our country.
03:18:30.000But if we get another administration in three years, they could just as easily stop enforcing the border.
03:18:59.000Biden got in and he stopped enforcing the border and he let them come in by the millions.
03:19:05.000If we leave it up to the discretion of a president, it's almost a certainty that they will open the borders up again.
03:19:13.000As certainly as Trump closed them and then Biden opened them and Trump closed them again, we will get another Democrat or Republican who will open them in the future.
03:19:23.000As a matter of fact, it just happened today.
03:19:25.000A federal judge ruled that Trump cannot deny asylum claims at the border, which paves the way for a far looser border than we've had so far.
03:20:32.000And if it wasn't a priority two years ago when Thomas Massey voted to raise the debt ceiling under Biden, if it wasn't a priority when they did the $8 trillion stimulus with the COVID relief, if it wasn't a priority when we went to war in Syria and Iran and Iraq and Afghanistan, why is it suddenly a priority now?
03:20:52.000We're pretty far and late in the game.
03:20:56.000$36 trillion debt, trillion dollar deficits.
03:23:02.000But there's a huge asterisk here, which is there's another deal that's being made behind the scenes that they're not telling you about.
03:23:10.000For weeks, Trump has talked about giving amnesty to farm workers.
03:23:16.000He says we need to slow down deportations for those illegals that are working in hospitals and hospitality, or I guess hospitality, hotels is what I meant, agriculture, those that are working on farms.
03:23:30.000Trump says we need to slow down the deportations for the illegal immigrant low-skilled labor.
03:23:36.000He said we need to maybe create a special category, a carve-out for illegal immigrants that are working on farms where their employers can let them stay in the country legally.
03:23:50.000Trump has been floating the idea for months, saying we need the labor, we need H-1B, we need H-1A, we need H-2B, we need H-2A, we need all these visa programs because we need the labor to keep our economy turning, he says.
03:24:10.000He says the priority is violent criminals.
03:24:13.000He says, we'll take care of those people that are working hard.
03:24:17.000And here's what they're not telling you.
03:24:19.000The reason the Republicans are okay with giving ICE $150 billion is because after this bill passes, they're probably going to make a deal on these farm workers.
03:24:30.000After this bill passes and everybody celebrates and says, oh, we have our border wall.
03:27:21.000This year, we've already gotten 127,000 H-1B visas.
03:27:26.000So the question is, you build a border wall, you get money for ICE, but if you're giving amnesty to everybody anyway and bringing in all these visas, well, then what's really the point?
03:27:36.000We're going to get all this money to prevent illegals from coming in and get them out to make room for more Chinese students, Indian students, more migrant farm labor, more low-skill migrant labor.
03:27:50.000I mean, and I wish they were more upfront about this little plan they have, which is being discussed and debated by the good people in the administration.
03:29:13.000It seems they're not going to be able to get it to the floor tonight, which means more negotiations, which means they might change the bill.
03:29:19.000And if they do, it goes back to the Senate.
03:29:21.000And then if they agree to it, then it goes to the president.
03:29:24.000But it seems that this might not get resolved anytime soon.
03:29:27.000It could be August or September before it gets passed.
03:29:29.000It depends on how these negotiations go.
03:29:32.000So we'll be watching that and following it.
03:33:13.000I got him to admit he was wrong about Iraq.
03:33:15.000I got him to admit that Sheldon Adelson shouldn't be allowed to donate money in the GOP.
03:33:20.000I got him to say that he wouldn't support anything that is good for Israel, but bad for America.
03:33:25.000We touched on how the Clean Break memo and Oded Yannon's plan points towards regime change.
03:33:32.000We hit on how the U.S. and Israel have different interests, how they sabotage Trump's diplomacy, how they initiated the strike.
03:33:40.000I mean, I think I touched on all the major issues, but the thing is, if you don't retrace it and say it for dummies, if you don't say it in like a big way, then it goes over people's heads.
03:33:55.000If you don't say it like a big dummy, if you don't say the Jews did everything, then idiots like you are going to are just going to totally glaze over.
03:34:03.000Wait, when is he going to call him a nigger?
03:35:31.000When I said there's no distinction between Republicans and Democrats, he said, you think that there's no difference between Jimmy Carter and Reagan?
03:35:38.000It's like, dude, that was 50 years ago, man.
03:35:41.000I mean, a lot has happened since then.
03:36:20.000So I think that's just a generational divide.
03:36:23.000And Traplin sent $20, despite my family being supportive of Dinesh in the past, and him being part of the same Indian background as Catholics.
03:36:28.000After having them watch the debate, they really saw how indefensible the Israel position is.
03:39:33.000The debate points to an issue you've brought up where people read one soul economics book and think that wraps up everything in a nice succinct argument.
03:39:38.000No Fletcher or realism because that would introduce too many nuances.
03:43:32.000Hey, Nick, I absolutely love your show.
03:43:34.000You're by far the best creator in no glaze, but if anyone can save the U.S., it's only you that can be our American Stalin and creating the new Catholic Empireless Roman Empire with a bunch of Mars colonies and fleets of battle roids.
03:44:04.000He has gone way too far in the other direction.
03:44:07.000You know, and as much as I get a kick out of him, and I agree with him on a lot of things, he's gone totally in the opposite direction with like the liberal hegemony and Ukraine.
03:45:42.000W shout out to the Leper King for challenging Dinesh to the debate, getting the acceptance, and sending you the super chat to make it happen.
03:45:47.000Looking forward to more debates in the future.
03:49:20.000And then when you don't watch Autismo Idiots documentary that's 12 hours and full of nonsense, then they say, well, you didn't watch my documentary and you don't agree with me.
03:50:59.000I started watching at the beginning of Grove for War 2 and have since been baptized into Catholicism and will be confirmed next year, all thanks to your monologues.
03:51:04.000I want to truly thank you for the positive impact you have had on my life.
03:52:00.000During the debate, you describing Israel splitting Libya into different territories made me think of Theodore Kaufman suggesting in his book that German people should be destroyed and their lands split in the same way.
03:52:07.000I feel that it puts on display that these people have always been a monolith.
03:52:14.000A conservative is a man who is too fat to run and too cowardly to fight, so you should have hit him harder.
03:52:18.000His arguments, particularly for Gaza, entailed war crimes, more than enough for a severe intellectual reaction.
03:52:22.000But I appreciated you standing your ground amidst his lying morality.
03:52:24.000Well, once again, if you're not a drooling idiot, I addressed that.
03:52:28.000He said, you know, why does Israel, why does the world hate Israel?
03:52:32.000And he said, I don't know, some nonsense.
03:52:34.000And I said, no, the world hates Israel because they rape prisoners with metal rods and then they storm the prison to release the soldiers that did it.
03:52:43.000I said, they hate Israel because they killed 5% of the population.
03:52:57.000I think I went very hard on that point.
03:52:59.000But, you know, once again, if you have a room temperature IQ, unless it is broken down for you, unless your num nums are pre-chewed and spoon-fed to you, and you say it three or four times, it's just going to go right over your head.
03:53:14.000It's going to go one ear, in ear, out the other.
03:53:46.000Your at times irreverent slash crude sense of humor is hilarious to me, but I am proud of you for seeing and seizing the opportunity to grow past it to win more hearts and minds by putting your serious chops on display.
03:53:53.000Don't take that as condescension from a 40 years slash o-unk.
03:53:56.000I think many doors are about to open for you.
03:55:10.000And look, how would that have come off?
03:55:12.000If I go against him and I'm really shitty and he's just laughing and taking it on the chin, then I look like a dick.
03:55:19.000So I think that, you know, not to mention, forget even the strategic stuff, but it's like, you know, when you're in a debate, you kind of have to match their energy.
04:01:47.000Also watching you cover your mouth to hide your laugh when the caller who did the Indian accent at the end of the call in the debate yesterday made me fall off my chair.
04:05:43.000Nick, been watching for a few months and your proficiency, articulation, and blunt honesty make you one of the most worthy influencers on the internet.
04:06:00.000It is funny as a former Crowder Daily subscriber that him saying you were persona non grata is what made me listen to what you have to say only to learn you were telling the truth more than anyone on the internet.
04:06:34.000Al Goody sent $20, and that we should not and may not engage in violence against innocents, soft targets, civilians, what would be called terrorism.
04:06:39.000However, as someone of Palestinian descent, I feel I have to correct your characterization of Hamas as an immoral fighting force.
04:06:45.000This whole preamble is totally necessary, by the way.
04:06:47.000Al-Ghudi sent $20, yes, they did engage in suicide bombings and attacking soft targets in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s, but they have since evolved, and in the current war, which is their defining moment, they have conducted a regular war.
04:06:57.000Al-Ghudi sent $20 to dismiss the greatest chapter of the Palestinian national struggle as an immoral act is simply not fair.
04:07:02.000McCaller didn't help himself by calling himself a communist, but I respectfully and strongly disagree with your dismissal of his broader point about the Palestinian national struggle.
04:07:32.000Why is Israel funding money to Hamas through Qatar?
04:07:36.000Why do they prefer Hamas over the Palestinian Authority?
04:07:40.000It's because if the people in Palestine had a nonviolent peaceful movement, or at least one that didn't engage in such tactics, maybe there would be more sympathy for their national struggle from the international community.
04:07:53.000But Israel actually likes Hamas because as long as Hamas is launching rockets at Israel and taking hostages and conducting themselves in the way that they do, as long as it's an intifada where they're blowing people up, then Israel has the moral advantage and Israel gets to create this equivalency and say, oh, you know, Hamas killed 1,200 people.
04:08:48.000This glorious struggle and their final moment.
04:08:52.000I mean, they played right into their hands.
04:08:54.000And you can't, you know, if you watch the show, our working idea is that Israel stood down and allowed Hamas to attack because it gave them a pretext to launch a war that they always wanted.
04:09:09.000Now, we can talk about what could have been or what would have been or the big ifs and the other questions.
04:09:15.000But with our understanding of the conflict as such, you understand that they played, Hamas played a critical role in the plan, that Israel stood down and let them do their thing.
04:09:27.000And this thing about the hostages and October 7th, it has fueled Israel in the war.
04:09:34.000And by the way, you know, you can hand wave that away and say, oh, they haven't done suicide bombings in a long time.
04:10:18.000I don't believe in that sort of thing.
04:10:20.000So, you know, and I said that the other night.
04:10:22.000I said, Christians don't believe in suicide bombing and taking hostages.
04:10:26.000Christians don't believe in massacres.
04:10:28.000Christians don't believe in that sort of thing.
04:10:32.000So, you know, you're obviously biased because you're Muslim or something, but I mean, just the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
04:10:40.000How is that going for Hamas and their glorious struggle?
04:10:43.000I think that the Palestinians have a right to fight back, but, you know, that doesn't mean that you get to ignore all boundaries.
04:10:52.000You know, the reason we're condemning Israel is because they are killing civilians.
04:10:58.000So if you want to say, well, you know, we did suicide bombing a little bit and yeah, we take hostages and yeah, we kill civilians, but you know, well, then how can you morally condemn what Israel's doing?
04:11:09.000You know, Israel's stronger than Palestine.
04:11:12.000If killing civilians is just part of war and hey, you know, that's part of a person's national struggle.
04:11:17.000Look, Israel is vastly more powerful than Hamas.
04:11:40.000You know, according to your logic, you'd say, well, that's a regular war.
04:11:44.000And by the way, it sort of is, in a sense, according to your definition, every Palestinian that sees what's happening, they join up with Hamas and they become potential combatants.
04:11:57.000So according to your logic, it's like Israel can conduct a war with no limitation and you see no problem with that.
04:14:26.000And it's not to say that's not an important debate in a certain context, but it's like we're at war with Iran because of Israel.
04:14:33.000And people are saying like this like technical theological question, do Jews and or rather, do Muslims and Christians, according to Nostra Tate, do they worship the same God?
04:17:27.000If a bad guy breaks into your house, rapes your family, kills them, and escapes, you have every right to shoot through him and hit the innocent child he's holding right in the head.
04:19:46.000No one goes to the Father except through me.
04:19:50.000Not except for the Jews who get to get to the Father if they don't turn on their light switch on Saturday or if they have a different kitchen for meat And dairy, no, there's one way, it's through Jesus.
04:20:03.000Everyone must be Christian, it's a new church, new lamb, new everything.
04:20:07.000And so no one is saying we don't need the old testament, we're getting rid of it.
04:20:11.000No, but the old testament gives way to the new.
04:20:14.000And the Jews, they have a different religion entirely.
04:20:19.000They have now Kabbalah, they now have the Talmud, they have a completely different religion.
04:20:25.000And that was the point, and that's why it's a false category.
04:24:02.000But it's sort of like, look, I happen to be a funny person.
04:24:05.000But because these assholes have been trying to keep me down for 10 years, it goes from, they take an obvious joke out of context and say, you're a hateful person, aren't you?
04:24:47.000I just, you know, I just wish people would give me a chance.
04:24:50.000I just wish people would get to know me.
04:24:53.000Because if you watch the show, I think you get to know me and you get it.
04:24:57.000If you watch the show every night for any amount of time, for a week, two weeks, you know what kind of person I am.
04:25:03.000You know that I blend serious analysis and I'm very sober about it.
04:25:10.000But I also like have a sense of self-awareness and I'm playful too.
04:25:14.000And it's very, it's very easy to get where I'm coming from on these things.
04:25:20.000And like I said, I've just always invited people to just, you know, not believe everything they hear about me or the first impression they get from a clip.
04:26:00.000So anyway, point is my mission for as long as I've done the show is to air out these views.
04:26:12.000And if people are expecting, if people think that I'm like really painstakingly restraining myself from being an ignoramus and being rude and aggressive, that's just not me.
04:26:29.000What I've always Wanted is a debate where we just hit the ideas and we just talk about the history and the facts and all this kind of stuff.
04:26:40.000That's what I always wanted, at least.
04:26:42.000And I think there may be other people that are like, oh, well, we wanted to see, we wanted to see this haughty, prideful presentation where you get up and wag your finger and are, you know, polemical and self-righteous and moralizing and all that.
04:26:59.000And that's just not, that's never, I think if you watch any of my debates, it never starts that way.
04:27:04.000It sometimes gets that way because I get frustrated, but you know, it's always been, you know, I'm here to just make the, make the case.
04:29:07.000I mean, the Iron Dome is a completely different kind of system than what we would need.
04:29:12.000I mean, we could get into the technical reasons why, but the Iron Dome is for a small area and it's for these short-range rockets.
04:29:20.000What a Golden Dome would need is to cover a very large area against ICBMs.
04:29:26.000And what's hard about ICBMs is that they're launched on the other side of the globe, and so they're undetectable until they're later in different stages.
04:29:37.000And it makes it very hard to shoot these down, especially to detect them, the launch of them and where they are and where they're going, and then to intercept them is not reliable.
04:29:49.000And very, it's sort of speculative if it's even possible, especially with hypersonics.
04:29:54.000Hypersonics have a plasma field around the warhead that makes them undetectable and uninterceptable.
04:30:02.000So the problem with missile defense is it's really a math problem.
04:30:06.000You only need one missile to get through, whereas interceptors need to be 100% successful.
04:30:12.000Ballistic missiles are cheap and accurate.
04:30:15.000Interceptors are expensive and need many interceptors for one missile.
04:30:19.000And it's much easier for a ballistic missile or ICBM to hit its target than for an interceptor to hit down an ICBM.
04:31:44.000So we can be sympathetic to them without giving into these third worldist liberationist fucking nonsense where you say, Yah Yah Sinwar, raise up your sticks.
04:31:56.000You know, forgive me for being a little Dinesh D'Souza here, but we can understand the situation without putting a fucking towel on our head.
04:32:07.000He was minimizing the Adelson $100 million compared to Trump's net worth of $4 to $8 billion and said that's like giving someone $100 as a multimillionaire.
04:32:13.000At best, it's $100 to someone with $8,000.
04:32:15.000Yeah, I mean, that's a slip-up, but the whole premise is dumb.
04:35:11.000And I think that it's very easy to open yourself up to those kinds of influences once you start to get curious about hacking the universe with numbers, trying to thwart God's plan.
04:35:26.000It's a form of like a Tower of Babel kind of thing.
04:35:29.000So I don't play with that, but I still like Zirka.