America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - January 10, 2018


Birthright Citizenship For Me But Not For Thee | America First Ep. 83


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00:00:02.000 Good evening, everybody.
00:00:03.000 You are watching America First.
00:00:04.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.
00:00:06.000 We have a great show for you tonight.
00:00:09.000 Lots to talk about, of course, with the DACA deal underway.
00:00:13.000 A bill has been proposed in the House of Representatives on DACA.
00:00:18.000 So we will be getting into that.
00:00:20.000 We will be getting into everything that that entails, all the provisions in this bill, Stephen Miller's role in this bill, Donald Trump's comments at his press conference today.
00:00:30.000 Things are coming together.
00:00:31.000 It's looking like my Theory about Donald Trump and using his leverage in this negotiation is turning out to be correct.
00:00:39.000 And of course, we'll get into that.
00:00:40.000 It's looking like I'm vindicated yet again, you know, and surprise, surprise, 250 IQ right again.
00:00:47.000 Look, I'll take the credit, I guess.
00:00:49.000 But we'll get into that.
00:00:51.000 I have to say, I really have to say, folks, what is going on with Antarctica?
00:00:58.000 I'm sorry, I don't know if it's, I don't know, feds are posting about this on poll.
00:01:03.000 I don't know what's going on.
00:01:05.000 But I keep seeing all these different people going to Antarctica.
00:01:09.000 Newt Gingrich, Vladimir Putin, John Kerry, George Bush.
00:01:13.000 What's going on up there, folks?
00:01:15.000 If anybody has any information, you know, comment below or something because I don't know if I'm losing my mind.
00:01:21.000 I don't know if I finally jumped the shark on this show.
00:01:24.000 But every time I check in on polls, there's a thread about Antarctica and it seems pretty convincing.
00:01:30.000 Why is everybody going up there and other things that are going on?
00:01:33.000 But anyway.
00:01:35.000 I just had to say that because I keep seeing it everywhere.
00:01:38.000 I don't know if it's me.
00:01:39.000 I don't know if I'm losing my mind.
00:01:40.000 I'm talking about the supermoons and Antarctica and Hollow Earth and all the rest.
00:01:45.000 And of course, we talk about it, a lot of it, tongue in cheek and kind of silly.
00:01:50.000 But I don't know, folks.
00:01:51.000 Why is everybody up there?
00:01:52.000 Why is Newt Gingrich up there with his wife kayaking in Antarctica, or down there, rather?
00:01:57.000 I don't know.
00:01:58.000 I couldn't tell you.
00:01:58.000 But that's your intro there.
00:02:01.000 That's your homework.
00:02:02.000 Figure out.
00:02:03.000 Somebody get on that.
00:02:04.000 You know, Siri, show me what's happening in Hollow Earth.
00:02:06.000 Show me what's happening in Antarctica because it's freaking me out.
00:02:09.000 But.
00:02:10.000 With that necessary intro out of the way, with that necessary housekeeping work out of the way, we have to get into the DACA bill, which was proposed today in the House of Representatives by the chair of the House Judiciary Committee, Goodlot.
00:02:27.000 Goodlot, I believe, is his name.
00:02:28.000 It's spelled like Goodlotte.
00:02:30.000 I believe it's Goodlot from North Carolina.
00:02:33.000 And he proposed the DACA fix that everybody was so worried about.
00:02:36.000 And if you remember yesterday and today, all over Twitter, All over Breitbart, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin.
00:02:44.000 Everybody's up in arms about the DACA fix, and rightly so.
00:02:48.000 You listen to Donald Trump's comments from the bipartisan meeting yesterday, the negotiations over DACA, border security, the diversity visa lottery system, and chain migration, and a lot of the comments sounded a little bit discouraging.
00:03:03.000 He said things like, I'll sign whatever Congress puts in front of me.
00:03:07.000 He said it was a bill of love.
00:03:08.000 He says we all want to protect DACA.
00:03:10.000 I mean, many things that he said yesterday.
00:03:13.000 Are cause for concern.
00:03:14.000 They are disconcerting.
00:03:16.000 And so I understand why people are all up in arms about it, but we finally saw the bill that was agreed upon yesterday, I suppose.
00:03:24.000 And Donald Trump and the White House have said that this bill, proposed by a good lot, will be the basis for future negotiations.
00:03:30.000 So this is not the final bill.
00:03:32.000 Obviously, Democrats will negotiate Republicans down from this, probably.
00:03:37.000 Things will be added, things will be taken away.
00:03:39.000 But this is the starting point for the quote unquote DACA fix.
00:03:43.000 And what Donald Trump said.
00:03:45.000 That he wants to address with this legislation, and this is important.
00:03:48.000 Yesterday, he laid out the four priorities to solve with this legislation.
00:03:53.000 Immigration is a very big issue.
00:03:55.000 There's a lot of things involved.
00:03:56.000 But during the bipartisan meeting yesterday, they focused it down on the four issues, which were, of course, DACA, border security, chain migration, diversity visa lottery system.
00:04:06.000 And so we got a bill in front of us today, and we got to see what was in it.
00:04:10.000 And, folks, I have to say, it is a very good bill.
00:04:13.000 I have to say, just on the merits of what is in the bill alone, this is a good deal.
00:04:19.000 If this were the final offer, I would take it.
00:04:21.000 I think anybody who's sane on this issue, who's practical on this issue, would take it.
00:04:26.000 And we'll go over the provisions.
00:04:28.000 First and foremost, this bill would allocate $30 billion for a border wall and additional border security.
00:04:36.000 So the wall would cost $18 billion.
00:04:39.000 As laid out by the White House plan on Friday, that would be about 1,000 miles of wall.
00:04:44.000 And you only really need 1,000 miles of wall because the rest is natural barriers.
00:04:48.000 And people think.
00:04:49.000 People think that's like trying to get away with cucking on immigration, but I mean, you have rivers, you have mountains, you have unpassable terrain where to build a wall there would just not be economical.
00:05:01.000 It wouldn't really make much sense when you consider the depth and the speed and the width of the river, when you consider the mountains.
00:05:09.000 I mean, it's not passable terrain.
00:05:10.000 So the White House proposal on Friday was a little bit under 1,000 miles of continuous wall, and they've already constructed samples, I believe, in Arizona or maybe it's California.
00:05:22.000 Somewhere in the Southwest, they've constructed.
00:05:24.000 I think six samples they had contractors build, and Donald Trump will be visiting those sometime this month to test them out and to judge and pick a design.
00:05:34.000 And so, first in the bill would be $18 billion for that wall, and then an additional $12 billion for more border security, which would mean more enforcement.
00:05:45.000 It would mean more drones, surveillance.
00:05:47.000 They want to have aviation surveillance over it, they want to have maintenance for the wall.
00:05:51.000 So, the additional $12 billion will go towards other forms of protection for the border in addition to the $18 billion.
00:05:58.000 1,000 mile walk.
00:06:00.000 In addition to that, they want 10,000 more border agents.
00:06:05.000 So they have 5,000 border patrol agents and 5,000 immigration and customs protection agents.
00:06:11.000 So that'll help speed up deportations.
00:06:13.000 That's a doubling of the size of our border patrol, which would be very good.
00:06:18.000 You imagine these numbers like 5,000 customs and border, 5,000 border patrol, and that sounds kind of abstract.
00:06:26.000 I don't think we really think in terms of manpower.
00:06:29.000 You know, when we think about the police or border patrol, I don't think people really factor this in that doubling the size of the border patrol would not only deter more illegals from coming here, turn around more illegals from coming here, but the additional 5,000 immigration and borders protection will also help speed up deportations, I believe.
00:06:48.000 And that will be a very good thing as well to target the 40 million.
00:06:52.000 It's something like 11 to 40 million.
00:06:54.000 Some say it's 26, some say it's 40 million.
00:06:57.000 The official numbers say it's 11, but we'd get more manpower to finish deporting.
00:07:02.000 Or rather, resume, begin, I guess, deporting this monumental amount of people.
00:07:06.000 So, 10,000 additional border agents and Borders and Customs and Border Patrol.
00:07:12.000 In addition to that, they will have mandatory e verify.
00:07:15.000 Now, this is big.
00:07:17.000 This was not in the four things that they said they would focus on yesterday.
00:07:21.000 Remember, yesterday they said it was only going to be DACA, border security, diversity visa lottery, and chain migration.
00:07:29.000 In this bill proposed by Goodlot, they're also including mandatory e verify, which is a huge white pill.
00:07:35.000 I don't know why many people don't talk about this.
00:07:38.000 Maybe they don't really understand what it is, but e verify would be a massive step forward in forcing illegals to self deport.
00:07:46.000 Once you start to understand what the average life looks like for an illegal alien in this country, or even for a poor legal immigrant in this country, you start to realize that the most effective way to get these people out is not necessarily to go in with a van and cause all kinds of commotion and handcuff them, throw them in the truck, and ship them over the border.
00:08:08.000 Of course, we'd love to see a lot of that too.
00:08:10.000 But if you're talking about removing mass amounts of people, if we're talking about millions of people, one of the most effective ways you can do this, in addition to obviously hiring more immigration and customs agents or ICE agents or whatever to go in and take them out, is to disincentivize people from coming here and disincentivize people from staying here.
00:08:32.000 So, for example, you imagine that it's far more costly to have Border Patrol agents go and hunt down, or ICE agents rather, go and hunt down.
00:08:42.000 All 40 million illegal immigrants in the country.
00:08:45.000 Far easier to say those 40 million immigrants will have a very, very tough time getting a job.
00:08:52.000 Those 40 million illegal immigrants will have a very, very tough time getting welfare.
00:08:58.000 They'll have a very hard time finding their way in this country.
00:09:01.000 Such a hard time that it'll be much easier for them to go back to Mexico and live there.
00:09:06.000 Conditions will be better in Mexico and therefore the flow will reverse.
00:09:11.000 So the e verify is actually a very positive step in the right direction.
00:09:15.000 People don't talk about this very much.
00:09:17.000 But that's a very good thing for self deportation.
00:09:20.000 People made fun of Mitt Romney a lot for that.
00:09:22.000 But change the incentives.
00:09:24.000 The reason that they come over here is because they want a better life.
00:09:27.000 And, you know, we know what that means.
00:09:28.000 They want free stuff.
00:09:29.000 They want to come here.
00:09:30.000 They want to get a free education.
00:09:32.000 They want to get a free retirement plan.
00:09:33.000 They want to get free health care.
00:09:35.000 They want to not get shot in the head by drug cartels.
00:09:38.000 And ironically, they bring that with them.
00:09:41.000 But if we make it so that they can't get free stuff, if we make it so that even if they want to work, they couldn't get a job, they will leave by themselves.
00:09:48.000 Far less costly, far less.
00:09:51.000 I guess politically difficult to manage in terms of enforcement.
00:09:56.000 And that would be a very good thing.
00:09:58.000 So, yeah, if you verify, in addition to that, there is an end to chain migration, an end to the diversity visa lottery system.
00:10:06.000 Now, those two things are pretty massive.
00:10:07.000 Breitbart estimated that if you end chain migration, that cuts immigration, legal immigration, in half.
00:10:15.000 So, you're cutting legal immigration by 50% by ending chain migration.
00:10:21.000 That's from Breitbart.
00:10:23.000 So, if you understand that there are 800,000 DACA recipients, and even let's be generous, there's 1.2 million illegal immigrants that are, what do you call it?
00:10:35.000 They're able to apply for DACA.
00:10:37.000 That's the word I'm thinking of.
00:10:37.000 They're eligible.
00:10:39.000 You have 1.2 million that are eligible to apply for DACA.
00:10:42.000 You have 800,000 that receive DACA, that have applied for DACA.
00:10:47.000 If you imagine that ending chain migration cuts legal immigration in half, and legal immigration last year was 1.5 million.
00:10:57.000 1.5 million divided by 2 is 700,000.
00:11:01.000 So every year, after we end chain migration, every year we are cutting immigration by 700,000 if we end chain migration.
00:11:10.000 So you have 800,000 DACA recipients in the country.
00:11:14.000 End chain migration, you have 700,000 less people coming in every year.
00:11:18.000 So in 10 years, you're down 7 million immigrants that come here.
00:11:23.000 So, you know, and already I'm trying to draw a contrast here.
00:11:26.000 If you're thinking that DACA is the end of the world, if you're thinking that 1.2 million eligible and 800,000 recipients is the end of the world.
00:11:34.000 Consider that in 10 years, we will not have 7 million immigrants that we would otherwise have if we did not remove chain migration.
00:11:42.000 7 million is bigger than 800,000.
00:11:45.000 So you have that with chain migration.
00:11:46.000 With the diversity visa lottery system, that is estimated to cut immigration by 75,000 per year.
00:11:52.000 So you just tack that on, and that's another 75,000 per year.
00:11:56.000 In 10 years, that's 750,000.
00:11:58.000 And that's another DACA, right?
00:12:00.000 So you're ending chain migration.
00:12:02.000 You're ending the diversity visa lottery system.
00:12:04.000 And in return for all of that, in return for $30 billion, $18 for the wall, $15 for other forms of enforcement, 10,000 new border patrol agents, 5,000 border patrol, 5,000 immigration and customs protection, mandatory e verify, ending chain migration, ending the diversity visa lottery system.
00:12:25.000 And in exchange, what this bill proposes is a three year residency renewable indefinitely for DACA recipients with no pathway to citizenship.
00:12:36.000 So, whereas previously under DACA, it was two year residency that was renewable.
00:12:42.000 Now it's three years renewable and no pathway to citizenship.
00:12:46.000 And I think the citizenship is really the crucial part there.
00:12:49.000 Because if you consider that we're ending chain migration and there's no pathway to citizenship, what we're talking about with the 800,000 DACA is 800,000 DACA.
00:13:00.000 So the biggest concern with DACA was number one, that if you legalize them, they will vote.
00:13:05.000 And that will be a very bad thing.
00:13:07.000 If they vote, they could flip all kinds of states.
00:13:10.000 They might be able to flip Texas or they'll contribute to that.
00:13:13.000 They would certainly contribute to flipping states like Arizona.
00:13:16.000 They would make New Mexico a lot harder to win, which some would contend that it's already unwinnable for Republicans.
00:13:22.000 And the vast majority of DACA recipients are in Texas and California.
00:13:27.000 The other concern is that there's chain migration.
00:13:29.000 If DACA people are here, well, they might not be a problem in and of themselves, but then they might have other people come over here.
00:13:35.000 If they get a green card or if they get amnesty, well, you'd have other people coming over.
00:13:39.000 Well, if there's no pathway to citizenship and there's no chain migration, you're left with these static.
00:13:46.000 800,000 DACA recipients.
00:13:48.000 And people might say, oh, well, they'll have kids and the kids will have birthright citizenship.
00:13:52.000 Well, that's true.
00:13:53.000 But you also have to consider that without a wall, you'll have more illegals, more illegals that will have children.
00:13:59.000 So you have more people coming in.
00:14:01.000 Without chain migration, you're going to have an additional 7 million immigrants in the next 10 years and they'll all have children.
00:14:07.000 Without the 5,000 border patrol, the 5,000 immigration and customs, you're going to have more illegals in here having more kids.
00:14:15.000 And so you look at this deal, and if it was just this deal on its own, on net, if you're looking at math, if you're looking at the Qualitative and quantitative comparison between current immigration policy and what immigration policy would be after the DACA deal, it's hard to argue that this would be a bad thing.
00:14:33.000 That said, it won't happen.
00:14:34.000 I mean, this deal as it stands won't happen.
00:14:37.000 And the reason is this the Democratic leadership has said they will not entertain a DACA fix if it has a wall.
00:14:44.000 During a press conference today, Donald Trump said, I will not sign anything that doesn't have a wall.
00:14:49.000 And of course, this only confirmed what we knew yesterday.
00:14:52.000 Everybody didn't know this yesterday, even though it was right there in front of everybody.
00:14:56.000 But yesterday, we said on the show that Donald Trump said during the negotiations yesterday, a clean bill has to have DACA and also security.
00:15:06.000 And he said that a clean bill has DACA and security.
00:15:09.000 I'll sign anything that has DACA and security.
00:15:11.000 And I said yesterday, this is a very telling nuance, where when the government shuts down on January 19th, because the government will run out of money, and Democrats and Republicans are trying to fix DACA with a spending bill to reopen the government, when we get along to January 19th, no deal is made.
00:15:29.000 Negotiations break down because one side wants a wall, one side doesn't.
00:15:33.000 People say, Well, what's a clean bill?
00:15:34.000 We go back to Donald Trump, a clean bill is security and DACA.
00:15:38.000 We go back to the comments yesterday where he said he'll sign anything.
00:15:42.000 And I said he won't have anything to sign because Chuck Schumer said it can't have a wall.
00:15:47.000 And Donald Trump's side said it must have a wall.
00:15:49.000 And he laid out what the wall looks like on Friday.
00:15:51.000 He might have paid lip service yesterday at the meeting when all the reporters were there.
00:15:56.000 And in the words of Senator Cornyn, Said they stayed and stayed and stayed, and they heard everything.
00:16:02.000 He talked about a 700 mile fence.
00:16:05.000 On Friday, he said the wall would be a 900 mile continuous wall.
00:16:10.000 And so, here we arrive at the main conclusion, which we got to yesterday, which everybody was in total disbelief.
00:16:16.000 And everybody said, Nick, I hope you're right.
00:16:18.000 I really hope you're right.
00:16:20.000 You know, look, I'm not going to go so far as say that I have faith in what's going to happen.
00:16:24.000 I'm confident that this is the most likely outcome, this is the most likely scenario that is unfolding.
00:16:31.000 People say, I have faith in the president.
00:16:33.000 You believe in him too much.
00:16:34.000 It's got nothing to do with that.
00:16:36.000 I believe that the most likely outcome, I believe that the theory that conforms with everything that we've seen so far, all of the facts, is the idea that Trump is using the DACA kids, or excuse me, the DACA illegals.
00:16:48.000 People get on my case for calling them kids when, in fact, the majority of them are over the age of 24, I believe.
00:16:54.000 So, sorry about that.
00:16:55.000 The DACA illegals as a bargaining chip.
00:16:58.000 He's using them as a bargaining chip to get the wall.
00:17:01.000 To get an end to chain migration, to get an end to the diversity visa lottery system, and ultimately to put the onus of a government shutdown on the Democrats.
00:17:09.000 Ultimately, if no deal is made, to put the onus on the expiration of DACA on the Democrats.
00:17:14.000 And that's a very solid thing to do in the context of the 2018 midterms.
00:17:19.000 When you look at Chuck Schumer and his relationship with the Hispanic House caucus, it's not going to go very well for him.
00:17:25.000 Chuck Schumer and the Democrats and their relationship with Hispanics, if they couldn't protect the DACA recipients, if they couldn't protect the illegals like they said they could, Not going to go very well for them in the midterms.
00:17:36.000 So, again, what we have seen today has vindicated the idea.
00:17:40.000 These facts have given more credence to the theory that this is what's going on.
00:17:45.000 And I can understand why people are freaking out.
00:17:47.000 I can understand why people are concerned or doubtful.
00:17:50.000 But again, you just have to look no further than every other time that this has happened, every other time that Trump has seemed to go against a campaign promise.
00:17:58.000 You have to think about motive.
00:17:59.000 You have to think about intent.
00:18:01.000 You know, let's entertain the possibility for a moment that Trump is cucking.
00:18:05.000 Give the Black Pillars a fair hearing here.
00:18:05.000 Let's.
00:18:09.000 And let's say, okay, Donald Trump is cucking.
00:18:12.000 Donald Trump is going to give us DACA, and he's not going to give us the 900-mile wall.
00:18:17.000 At best, he would give us a 700-mile wall.
00:18:20.000 And even then, he might not even do that because he wants to fix DACA.
00:18:23.000 That's what some people believe.
00:18:25.000 Some people believe, as they believe that Donald Trump was going to war in Syria with 100,000 ground troops, as they believe that Donald Trump made a deal with Chuck Schumer to.
00:18:35.000 Protect the DACA recipients without a wall back in September, as they said he was going to war in Iran just as recently as one week ago.
00:18:42.000 They say now that Donald Trump has decided that he's going to protect the DACA recipients and win their votes.
00:18:50.000 Well, okay, but then he said in 2013 that the Republicans shouldn't give amnesty to the DACA recipients or to illegals because they wouldn't vote Republican.
00:18:59.000 He said the same thing in 2015.
00:19:01.000 He's been saying for 30 years that he's against illegal immigration.
00:19:05.000 He's been saying for 30 years he's principally.
00:19:08.000 And economically opposed to illegal immigration.
00:19:11.000 He ran his entire campaign against illegal immigrants, specifically against DACA.
00:19:16.000 He opened his campaign, his announcement speech depicted illegal immigrants as drug dealers, murderers, and rapists.
00:19:23.000 So, you have to ask yourself if Trump is cucking, and let's entertain that that's what's happening.
00:19:28.000 What is the motive for him suddenly going back on all that wisdom?
00:19:33.000 What is the motive?
00:19:34.000 What is the intent?
00:19:35.000 What is the interest?
00:19:36.000 Get in Donald Trump's head.
00:19:38.000 He's in the White House, he's in the West Wing.
00:19:40.000 And you have to ask yourself, why did he go back on 30 years of public and private statements?
00:19:45.000 Why did he go back on 30 years of his professed ideology, his professed principles, things he tweeted as recently as one year ago?
00:19:53.000 What made him do it?
00:19:54.000 Well, people might say that it will bring him a short term.
00:19:58.000 Political victory.
00:20:00.000 Short term political victory.
00:20:01.000 Now, knowing Donald Trump, has Donald Trump really been keen about short term political victories?
00:20:07.000 Think about the Paris Climate Accords, for example.
00:20:10.000 That was a massive victory, if you're talking about a political victory in the context of what DACA would constitute, the mainstream media giving you a pat on the back, Democrats and moderates maybe saying you're okay.
00:20:21.000 Think about everything he's done this year.
00:20:23.000 For example, the Paris Climate Accords, where he pulled out and unilaterally, universally condemned.
00:20:29.000 By the mainstream media, the moderates, the Democrats, everybody that the Black Pillars say he's trying to impress with DACA.
00:20:35.000 Well, why would he do the Paris Climate Accords?
00:20:37.000 That really wasn't affecting the U.S., it wasn't legally binding.
00:20:40.000 Why would he do that if he wanted a short term political victory?
00:20:44.000 You have to look at anything else he's done over the course of the summer, over the course of the fall.
00:20:49.000 I mean, take, for example, what happened with the tax cut.
00:20:52.000 I mean, that, in the words of a lot of Democrats, moderates, and other people, was going to be for the rich.
00:20:59.000 Everybody railed against him.
00:21:00.000 It was terrible.
00:21:01.000 The same people that would be Approving of him that would deliver him this short term political victory if he appeased on DACA would have been really upset with the tax cut, right?
00:21:11.000 But, you know, he went ahead with that one anyway.
00:21:14.000 And so you just have to look at everything he's done this year.
00:21:16.000 And so that really doesn't fit.
00:21:17.000 It doesn't really fit.
00:21:18.000 That's not really a sufficient motive to say that he went against all this other stuff.
00:21:22.000 You know, because on trade, on foreign policy, on economics, on many things, he hasn't really budged.
00:21:30.000 Additionally, you'd have to explain in September why he didn't protect the DAC recipients.
00:21:34.000 You'd have to ask yourself.
00:21:35.000 Why did Donald Trump rescind DACA at all?
00:21:38.000 If he was after short term political victories, if people were whispering in his ear that that would be a politically savvy move, why did he, number one, rescind DACA?
00:21:47.000 And then, number two, why did he not protect the DACA recipients in September when he met with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and they said they'd reached an agreement?
00:21:55.000 Why didn't that happen in September when everybody said it was?
00:21:58.000 Why didn't he come back out firing harder than ever that he was going to have a wall and he had a list of 70 demands?
00:22:04.000 So then the question becomes what changed between September and September?
00:22:07.000 And January.
00:22:08.000 We narrow the focus.
00:22:09.000 If he's cucking, if he's turning around, well, he has a motive, he has an intent.
00:22:14.000 Maybe it's political cycles, but what changed between now and September?
00:22:19.000 Because obviously, if he rescinded it in August, if he didn't make the deal in September, then if he's really cucking, then something specific must have changed between September and January.
00:22:31.000 Well, I can't really think of anything.
00:22:33.000 I don't believe Michael Kelly came in in that time.
00:22:36.000 There were no major shakeups in the cabinet.
00:22:38.000 So I'm just left scratching my head and wondering.
00:22:41.000 Here you have one theory.
00:22:43.000 You have one theory that Trump is cucking, and the idea is that between September and January, Trump made a complete 180 degree turn on things he's been saying for 40 years.
00:22:56.000 On things he campaigned on, things that he built his presidency on, things that he will be remembered as.
00:23:01.000 He is going to be, he wants to go down and be hated by Democrats and Republicans for being a fascist in the words of Democrats and cucking on immigration in the future words of Republicans.
00:23:12.000 Because why?
00:23:13.000 Something that happened between September and January, which the Black Pillars say was some shadowy Rasputin like advisor whispered in his ear and said, Go against all your better judgment.
00:23:24.000 I know you hate the media.
00:23:25.000 I know you hate the Democrats, but they might like you if you do this one thing that you caused to happen months ago.
00:23:32.000 So that's one theory, not really solid.
00:23:35.000 The other theory is that Donald Trump is completely being consistent, he's 100% in alignment with everything that's happened.
00:23:42.000 The ideology hasn't changed.
00:23:44.000 The principles haven't changed.
00:23:46.000 The conviction hasn't changed.
00:23:47.000 The interest hasn't changed.
00:23:49.000 But rather, Trump is using a negotiating tactic.
00:23:53.000 Trump is using a negotiating tactic outlined in his book, The Art of the Deal.
00:23:58.000 Trump is using a negotiating tactic that he used no less than three obvious times in the last year.
00:24:04.000 And so you have to ask yourself if you're skeptical, if you don't believe me, if you think I'm making things up, if you think I have a blind faith in the president, I have a blind, irrational, unreasonable faith in the president, look at the two theories.
00:24:17.000 And tell me which one has more evidence.
00:24:19.000 Tell me which one has more qualitative and quantitative evidence to support it.
00:24:24.000 What's the foundation?
00:24:26.000 Believe me, if I could find a good reason for why Trump was cucking, it would be seriously on my radar.
00:24:33.000 I would be seriously considering it.
00:24:34.000 The only thing that I could imagine, like we talked about yesterday, is that they have his family, is that they have his family or they have something compromising on him.
00:24:44.000 If that were the case, and I talked about that yesterday, it would be dubious that they would let him have.
00:24:49.000 Twitter and social media and tweet the things that he does and have the autonomy that he does with the press and with social media and with the people, you know, even hosting rallies.
00:24:57.000 So there it is.
00:24:58.000 There's all the evidence.
00:25:00.000 There it is again.
00:25:01.000 I know we talked about it yesterday, but I mean, we have more evidence today.
00:25:05.000 And that's very good.
00:25:06.000 He said explicitly in the press conference today, and this is the most white pilling thing about it.
00:25:11.000 This is where you just can't square this circle.
00:25:15.000 Where Donald Trump said explicitly today in the press conference that he would not sign anything.
00:25:21.000 Without a wall, which is so different than what he said yesterday.
00:25:24.000 Yesterday, he said, I will sign anything that they give me.
00:25:27.000 I'm not going to say I want this or I don't want that.
00:25:30.000 That's what he said yesterday.
00:25:31.000 Today, he said, If there's no wall, I won't sign it.
00:25:33.000 So, obviously, yesterday was for the press, of which all the press were there, and he allowed them to stay, and it was for a photo op.
00:25:41.000 And today, we got the real position.
00:25:43.000 It's a classic real estate negotiating tactic.
00:25:46.000 So, he wants the wall.
00:25:47.000 Chuck Schumer doesn't.
00:25:48.000 No deal happens.
00:25:50.000 In the meanwhile, this came out today, which is Beautiful.
00:25:54.000 This came out today.
00:25:55.000 This was via Newsweek.
00:25:57.000 It's reported from 14 unnamed sources in Congress and many GOP congressmen that the one who was obstructing the negotiation process on DACA is Stephen Miller.
00:26:07.000 Stephen Miller.
00:26:09.000 All kinds of Republican congressmen are telling Newsweek and these other outlets that Stephen Miller keeps going in and making all these unreasonable demands.
00:26:17.000 Every time they try to make progress, Stephen Miller comes in and says, No, we have to go a little bit further.
00:26:23.000 We have to be more hardline.
00:26:24.000 We have more demands.
00:26:25.000 And he scuttles it.
00:26:26.000 They said that he's deliberately putting in place provisions in the House bill that he knows won't make it through the Senate bill, where the Republicans only have a 51 vote majority.
00:26:35.000 And this is play by play exactly what happened in September.
00:26:42.000 Exactly what happened in September.
00:26:45.000 If you recall, September 12th or 13th, a note came out of Chuck Schumer's office that said that Donald Trump had reached an agreement with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.
00:26:55.000 To protect the DACA recipients without a border wall, which was huge.
00:27:00.000 Everybody said, What's going on?
00:27:02.000 The only way we would, the only way that we could ever contemplate giving the DACA recipients protection is if we got a wall at the bare minimum, at the bare minimum.
00:27:13.000 You would have to have a lot more than that.
00:27:16.000 And then one day later, Trump said, no, actually, we need the wall.
00:27:19.000 And then a day later, it came out that Stephen Miller was scuttling all the negotiations.
00:27:24.000 This is play by play.
00:27:25.000 It is, do people, I guess people just like, don't watch the notes because this is the exact progression.
00:27:32.000 Trump comes out and says something really out of character, base flips out.
00:27:36.000 He says, I don't care.
00:27:37.000 Turns out, no, he actually wants the wall.
00:27:39.000 Stephen Miller scuttles the negotiations.
00:27:42.000 This happened in September.
00:27:43.000 This happened in late December.
00:27:45.000 This is happening now.
00:27:46.000 And, you know, we'll see what happens.
00:27:48.000 But that's the bill.
00:27:50.000 Enough about that.
00:27:51.000 We talked about that all day yesterday.
00:27:53.000 Don't want to make the whole show about that today.
00:27:55.000 The other funny thing I saw today this is kind of related to immigration, but just not to the bill.
00:28:00.000 I got to put that to bed.
00:28:01.000 But, you know, everybody says I'm so combative.
00:28:04.000 And this always happens.
00:28:05.000 It's funny to me because.
00:28:07.000 Again, go back to Syria.
00:28:09.000 Go back to all these examples where people said the same thing.
00:28:12.000 Nick, I hope you're right.
00:28:13.000 Nick, I hope you're right.
00:28:14.000 Nick, you have too much faith.
00:28:15.000 Nick, it's four dimensional chess.
00:28:17.000 And every time I staked my credibility and every time I came out right.
00:28:21.000 And it is really curious to me that everybody who is wrong about these issues, everybody who takes the most pessimistic look, everybody who takes this worldview that Trump is against us and Trump isn't working with us, that we have no faith in electoral politics, they're always wrong, and yet they're always the most credible every time.
00:28:41.000 Every time this happens again, everybody always looks to the black pillars and says, well, that's probably true.
00:28:47.000 And that's just really curious to me.
00:28:49.000 Syria strike, the night of the strike, April 7th, everybody, left and right, said there's war in Syria.
00:28:57.000 Mike Cernovich said he added, on good authority, 100,000 boots on the ground on June 1st in Syria.
00:29:02.000 I was the sole dissenter.
00:29:03.000 I said, nope, not happening.
00:29:05.000 It's about China and North Korea.
00:29:06.000 Everybody said, Nick, you're cucking.
00:29:07.000 People aren't following me.
00:29:09.000 People are saying, Nick, I like you, but you're wrong.
00:29:11.000 Nick, I like you, but your analysis is bad.
00:29:13.000 Who turns out to be right?
00:29:14.000 DACA in August and September, the same thing happens.
00:29:18.000 I said, look, if he passes DACA, if it ends up in legislation, I'm off the Trump train.
00:29:23.000 But look at what's happening with Stephen Miller.
00:29:25.000 Look at what's happening.
00:29:26.000 Watch what he says the day after.
00:29:28.000 Turns out I was right.
00:29:29.000 Everybody was saying he's passed DACA.
00:29:31.000 Breitbart called the Mamnesty Don.
00:29:33.000 It was all over.
00:29:34.000 Iran, last week, everybody and their brothers saying there's going to be regime change in Iran.
00:29:39.000 There's going to be a $1 trillion, 250,000 man invasion of Iran.
00:29:44.000 Donald Trump wants regime change.
00:29:46.000 He's no different than George Bush.
00:29:47.000 Tax cuts in a war in the Middle East.
00:29:49.000 He's no different than George Bush.
00:29:51.000 And I said, watch and wait.
00:29:53.000 Look at what's happening.
00:29:54.000 Look what's happening there.
00:29:55.000 Look what's happening in the Pacific.
00:29:57.000 And what ended up happening?
00:29:59.000 Bilateral negotiations for the first time in a long time between South Korea and North Korea, prompted by Donald Trump because of his pressure on Iran.
00:30:06.000 Exactly as it was called.
00:30:08.000 And I'm not even going to take all the credit, but people that generally say that Donald Trump is using tactics and strategy and not.
00:30:15.000 Just uncharacteristically going against what he's promised in these weird, like, schizophrenic moves.
00:30:23.000 And I don't know why every time this happens, and watch, it'll happen again.
00:30:27.000 Mark my words, this will happen again.
00:30:29.000 This will be one of four examples I will use the next time it happens.
00:30:32.000 And just watch and see.
00:30:34.000 And you will see that every time it rolls around, I have no credibility for some reason on this issue, even though I was right the previous four times.
00:30:42.000 But enough about that.
00:30:43.000 Not trying to be bitter, but just trying to say if people want good information, if people want.
00:30:48.000 The good analysis.
00:30:49.000 You have to think of, you really have to look at the facts.
00:30:52.000 You have to judge for yourself.
00:30:54.000 So that's the immigration fix.
00:30:56.000 The other thing I was going to say, and this is unrelated to the bill, but this is related to immigration in general.
00:31:02.000 This came out of NBC today.
00:31:04.000 NBC tweeted this video that was really hitting hard against birthright citizenship, but not in the way you think.
00:31:12.000 NBC puts out a video today about Russian birth tourism, which birth tourism is when, of course, expectant mothers come from places like China, places from Russia, and other countries like that, and they fly all the way out here when they're pregnant.
00:31:29.000 To have their kids in America because, of course, when they have their kids on the land, the kids become naturalized citizens.
00:31:36.000 They can get dual citizenship with their other country, and then they can help people from their country come into the United States and get all kinds of benefits.
00:31:43.000 And they themselves are entitled to public school and all kinds of money and everything else.
00:31:49.000 And so it's just really funny because NBC puts out this video and they say, look at Russian birth tourism.
00:31:54.000 Russian birth tourism, where Russians come over here and these kids get to grow up and take welfare and go to our schools and all this.
00:32:02.000 And you have to love the hypocrisy of it.
00:32:04.000 You have to just love the naked and stark hypocrisy of the media.
00:32:09.000 That Donald Trump is saying, we can't have this with Mexicans because the vast majority of people that benefit from birthright citizenship are Mexicans.
00:32:18.000 Can't have it.
00:32:19.000 They come over here, they're born, and suddenly they're entitled to everything that we've created here.
00:32:24.000 They're entitled to all the money, all the infrastructure, all the schools, the teachers, all the resources.
00:32:29.000 They just get to stay here and they get to vote.
00:32:32.000 I mean, that in and of itself is offensive.
00:32:34.000 Forget about the money.
00:32:35.000 It's about the principle, it's about the morality, the justice of the situation.
00:32:39.000 That these people get to roll over here and they get a vote as though that's how democracy was intended to work, right?
00:32:46.000 But NBC, suddenly when it's white people, suddenly when it's Russians in particular, now they've got a big problem about it.
00:32:53.000 You got how many thousands, how many millions of Mexicans pouring across the border every year?
00:32:59.000 How many El Salvadorians, how many Hondurans, Guatemalans coming over here every year to the tune of millions of people?
00:33:06.000 And they have their kids, and their population is exploding, and their kids get to come over here.
00:33:11.000 They don't even speak the language, and they get to use the schools and take the welfare and all the rest.
00:33:17.000 They don't have a problem with that.
00:33:18.000 But when it's whites, when it's white people, when it's white Christians from Russia, no less, then suddenly they've got a problem.
00:33:28.000 Then suddenly they're talking about welfare and schools and voting and all the rest, because, of course, you know, the Russians are infiltrating Russian foreign influence.
00:33:37.000 That's the problem.
00:33:39.000 And at this point, What this says more broadly, I mean, people can point out the base hypocrisy.
00:33:44.000 That's not difficult.
00:33:46.000 The point is that the media is not even hiding it anymore.
00:33:50.000 The media is not even hiding it anymore.
00:33:53.000 That they are stridently, unapologetically, overtly anti white.
00:33:59.000 And they don't care if you know.
00:34:01.000 That's the takeaway.
00:34:02.000 Because anybody with eyes can see this.
00:34:04.000 Anybody who, I mean, liberals notice this.
00:34:06.000 NBC suddenly talking about birthright citizenship.
00:34:09.000 What are you supposed to do if you hate Russians and you love birthright citizenship?
00:34:13.000 Say, The liberals.
00:34:14.000 This was one tweet by some fella.
00:34:18.000 And it just goes to show that if you are white, if you're a Christian, if you're male in many cases, you're not welcome.
00:34:25.000 You're not welcome.
00:34:26.000 You have no right.
00:34:28.000 You have no history.
00:34:29.000 You have no heritage.
00:34:30.000 You're not worthy.
00:34:32.000 You're not entitled to the same rights.
00:34:32.000 You're not a person.
00:34:34.000 If you're brown, if you're Hispanic, if you're vibrant, if you're spicy, if you have culture, you know, you're a king.
00:34:43.000 And we have to pander to you.
00:34:45.000 We have to fluff you up with all of these ridiculous myths about your history.
00:34:51.000 We have to fluff you up with myths about excellence and all the rest.
00:34:54.000 We have to tell you at once that you're a victim and your failures are not your fault.
00:34:59.000 But at the same time, what failures?
00:35:00.000 They're excellent.
00:35:02.000 They're rich in history and culture and they're great people and they're beautiful.
00:35:06.000 But not so for whites.
00:35:07.000 So you just have to love it.
00:35:09.000 They're not even hiding it anymore.
00:35:11.000 We saw this with the Netflix advertisement last week, and the Netflix advertisement was a perfect example of this.
00:35:17.000 The argument often goes when you see advertisements where there's race mixing, you see advertisements where there's homosexuality.
00:35:25.000 You see advertisements where there's all kinds of hedonism and degeneracy and materialism, and it's often passed off as, well, this is coincidental.
00:35:33.000 Look at the people that are making the advertisements.
00:35:36.000 And really, look at the people.
00:35:37.000 Look at the last names.
00:35:38.000 But they say, look at the people making the advertisements.
00:35:41.000 These are rich, cosmopolitan type people.
00:35:43.000 This is a reflection of society.
00:35:47.000 The argument goes when you look at types of advertisements, like the Netflix advertisement, which depicted a white guy getting cucked by a black guy in metaphor.
00:35:55.000 They say that this is reflective.
00:35:58.000 It is not prescriptive.
00:36:00.000 It is reflective of the society.
00:36:02.000 But then you look on YouTube at the Netflix commercial 1,000 likes to 12,000 dislikes, universally panned by liberals, moderates, I mean, whatever the political label, if that's even relevant, people are against it.
00:36:19.000 And that just goes to show that when NBC puts this stuff out, when Netflix puts this stuff out, when the media puts this stuff out, this is not reflective.
00:36:26.000 This is not a sign of the times.
00:36:28.000 Modernism is not natural.
00:36:30.000 Modernism is not intuitive.
00:36:31.000 Nobody voted for it.
00:36:33.000 Nobody likes it.
00:36:34.000 It is being pushed on us everywhere, all the time.
00:36:37.000 And sometimes you don't even know it.
00:36:40.000 So that's NBC.
00:36:41.000 Anybody can point out the hypocrisy.
00:36:43.000 Anybody, any Bill Mitchell, any, who's the other guy?
00:36:47.000 Who's the Illinois congressman?
00:36:51.000 Joe Walsh.
00:36:52.000 Any Joe Walsh can say, oh, there's a hypocrisy.
00:36:55.000 The left is hypocritical.
00:36:56.000 I don't believe in hypocrisies.
00:36:56.000 No, no, no, no.
00:36:58.000 I don't believe in inconsistencies.
00:36:59.000 I believe in wrong, insufficient narratives.
00:37:03.000 It's not inconsistent.
00:37:05.000 It's not hypocritical.
00:37:06.000 It's not hypocritical, and here's why.
00:37:08.000 Here's why.
00:37:09.000 You see a double standard.
00:37:11.000 They like birthright citizenship for Mexicans, they don't like it for Russians.
00:37:15.000 Somebody might say that the principle has been violated because they said they liked birthright citizenship.
00:37:20.000 Therefore, they're hypocritical.
00:37:23.000 Only if you come at it with the understanding that liberals care about the principle, liberals care about the law, liberals care about the sanctity of law and birthright citizenship in and of itself, when in fact, that's not what they care about.
00:37:36.000 They don't like birthright citizenship because they like what it represents and for a democracy and anyone can come here and they can participate.
00:37:42.000 They don't like it because of that.
00:37:43.000 They lie and say that's why they like it.
00:37:46.000 They like it because it displaces white people.
00:37:49.000 They like it because birthright citizenship is a way for Mexicans to come here and outvote white people.
00:37:55.000 It's a way for Mexicans, Asians, Africans, and you name it, to come over here and they're just as American as anyone else.
00:38:01.000 And the American identity is degraded, the white identity is destroyed, and that's why they're for it.
00:38:07.000 It's not inconsistent at all when you look at it from that metric, because sure, when birthright citizenship benefits white people, it's bad.
00:38:15.000 But when it benefits Mexicans, it's good.
00:38:17.000 And so if you look at it from that angle, if you look at it from their values, then there's no inconsistency at all.
00:38:23.000 Then suddenly it makes a lot of sense.
00:38:25.000 If you're talking to a liberal, like a neighbor, somebody you know, you might be able to point this out to them, and they will concede and they will say, gee, I never thought about it that way.
00:38:34.000 That is inconsistent.
00:38:35.000 That is hypocritical.
00:38:37.000 You know, maybe you're right about that.
00:38:38.000 Maybe there's something wrong about birthright citizenship.
00:38:41.000 That's with honest people.
00:38:42.000 That's with people who know what they believe and are honest about what they believe.
00:38:48.000 But for people in the mainstream media, it is not the case with them.
00:38:51.000 You can tell them the inconsistency.
00:38:53.000 They're well aware of it.
00:38:54.000 They don't care.
00:38:55.000 It's not about that.
00:38:56.000 It's not about birthright citizenship.
00:38:58.000 Insofar as a policy hurts white people, it is good for them.
00:39:02.000 Insofar as it helps white people, it is bad for them.
00:39:05.000 If you understand left wing politics from this axiom, you understand the left.
00:39:10.000 There are no inconsistencies.
00:39:12.000 There are no hypocrisies.
00:39:13.000 There's nothing illogical.
00:39:15.000 People fundamentally are not illogical.
00:39:17.000 People fundamentally do not have these inconsistencies.
00:39:20.000 It creates cognitive dissonance.
00:39:22.000 And a lot of people had a problem wrapping their heads around this because they subconsciously, because of what they consume from the media, are against white people.
00:39:30.000 They've been, and I'm talking about the masses now.
00:39:33.000 The elite know what they're doing.
00:39:34.000 But if you're talking about the masses, they're not illogical people.
00:39:38.000 When they become aware of these inconsistencies, it creates cognitive dissonance only because they're only subconsciously aware that they believe what they believe.
00:39:48.000 Subconsciously, they know that colonialism, Western civilization, and all the rest is code for white.
00:39:56.000 And that's why they're against it subconsciously.
00:39:59.000 Then they just have to figure it out consciously.
00:40:00.000 And that's kind of the race against time right now.
00:40:02.000 So that's NBC.
00:40:04.000 There's so much more to it than that, than hypocrisy.
00:40:08.000 It's an important point to make that there really is no such thing as hypocrisies.
00:40:12.000 When you're talking about grand movements, grand designs, there are only misunderstandings.
00:40:16.000 There are only bad theories that don't conform to all the values.
00:40:19.000 There's only lies, not hypocrisies, not inconsistencies.
00:40:23.000 They don't care about birthright citizenship.
00:40:25.000 So stop debating about it on those grounds.
00:40:27.000 Debate it on the grounds that they hate white people and why.
00:40:31.000 Look into why they might hate them.
00:40:31.000 And why?
00:40:32.000 Look into why the advertisers, the media might hate white people who are Christians.
00:40:39.000 That might play a role.
00:40:41.000 Who hates the Christians?
00:40:42.000 Who hates the Christians?
00:40:44.000 Who hates Christ?
00:40:46.000 Who killed Christ?
00:40:47.000 I don't know.
00:40:48.000 Who knows?
00:40:49.000 The Romans, right?
00:40:49.000 Who knows?
00:40:50.000 But anyway, that's NBC.
00:40:53.000 Let's see how many super chats we have.
00:40:54.000 If we have a lot, we'll go to the super chats.
00:40:58.000 If not, we'll go to NAFTA.
00:41:01.000 So I guess we'll go to the super chats because it looks like we have a lot of them.
00:41:05.000 Carl Ritzenthaler says, What are your thoughts on David Irving?
00:41:08.000 Smart guy, smart guy, brave guy.
00:41:11.000 And you know, it's funny because David Irving, for people that don't know, is a revisionist about the Holocaust, which is terrible, which is condemnable.
00:41:21.000 He has a different view of something that happened a long time ago.
00:41:26.000 Lock him up, lock him up, throw him in jail.
00:41:28.000 And actually, it's illegal in many countries in Europe.
00:41:30.000 People aren't aware of this.
00:41:32.000 You know, on what planet, on what other issue is this standard applied?
00:41:36.000 Could you imagine, like, take for example, Take, for example, the USS Liberty, where Israel destroyed a US intelligence ship and killed American sailors.
00:41:45.000 If you think that Israel didn't do that deliberately, is that a crime?
00:41:48.000 Should you be a hateful person?
00:41:50.000 Are they hateful people?
00:41:51.000 Do they hate Americans for denying that that happened?
00:41:53.000 Do they hate Americans for denying the undeniable evidence that the USS Liberty was sunk by Israel deliberately?
00:42:01.000 They knew it was a US ship and they destroyed it anyway.
00:42:04.000 Is an Israeli a hateful person?
00:42:06.000 Are they a USS Liberty denier?
00:42:08.000 Should they go to jail in 20 European countries like they could for denying the Holocaust?
00:42:12.000 Look, I'm just asking questions.
00:42:12.000 I don't know.
00:42:14.000 Of course, we believe in the official narrative.
00:42:16.000 Of course, we believe in official narratives on this show.
00:42:19.000 Round Earth, nothing's going on in Antarctica, it's just a base.
00:42:24.000 And the Holocaust.
00:42:25.000 We believe all these things.
00:42:26.000 We believe them all totally.
00:42:27.000 Well, David Irving, he's a revisionist, and he happens to be the most educated person on the subject in the world.
00:42:36.000 I mean, real World War II historians concede that David Irving knows more languages, has studied more primary sources, and Has looked into this in more detail than anybody else alive in the world.
00:42:50.000 Like, he is a preeminent World War II historian.
00:42:53.000 This is not disputed.
00:42:54.000 And he's a revisionist.
00:42:55.000 And I wonder why nobody hears about him.
00:42:56.000 I wonder why nobody talks about that.
00:42:58.000 I wonder why that's still not okay to talk about.
00:43:02.000 I would imagine that if an expert, if the smartest guy in the world on a topic is not heard about, imagine if, like, Stephen Hawking, you've never heard of him.
00:43:12.000 You're an astrophysicist guy, but you've never heard of Stephen Hawking.
00:43:15.000 You've never heard what he had to say.
00:43:16.000 His books were not on the shelves.
00:43:17.000 Wouldn't that make you scratch your head?
00:43:19.000 Wouldn't you say, why is that?
00:43:22.000 Wouldn't you trust Stephen Hawking?
00:43:23.000 Why wouldn't you want to read his book?
00:43:25.000 But anyway, that's David Irving.
00:43:28.000 Simon Skola says Have you noticed how Ben Shapiro hates single payer health care yet never brings up how Israel has single payer health care?
00:43:35.000 I wonder why.
00:43:37.000 I don't think that's anything malicious, to be honest.
00:43:40.000 I don't believe in single payer health care myself.
00:43:43.000 And to be honest, I don't really think he cares about the health care system in Israel.
00:43:48.000 It's kind of a fine line here where there are a lot of things we can't fault Ben Shapiro for.
00:43:53.000 I don't think that's one of them.
00:43:54.000 And we have to be careful about that because.
00:43:56.000 If they can delegitimize some of your arguments, they can throw out the whole thing.
00:43:59.000 So, for example, like with Ben Shapiro, if you start saying, well, Ben Shapiro, all of his views are constructed on the basis of some double, you know, he's a double, what do they call that?
00:44:13.000 He's a double agent, right?
00:44:15.000 He works for Israel.
00:44:16.000 I mean, if you start saying stuff like that, then all the allegations that he has a prejudice in favor of his country and his people, it becomes completely not credible if you start going with the more extreme stuff.
00:44:29.000 So that's why I tend to avoid those kinds of things.
00:44:31.000 Only because single payer, there's a pretty solid economic case against it.
00:44:35.000 There's a pretty solid economic school of thought and political theory against it, where there's not really a lot of evidence to suggest that the only reason Ben Shapiro doesn't oppose single payer health care in Israel and he supports it in America is because he has like a secret agenda.
00:44:50.000 I mean, a really good place to focus on would be why does he not speak out against Israeli ethno nationalism, but he finds the alt right so repugnant?
00:44:58.000 I mean, that's the only thing you really need to ask.
00:45:00.000 You have to focus in on.
00:45:01.000 On those points where you can't lose.
00:45:02.000 I mean, never mind the ancillary stuff.
00:45:04.000 You don't need to pile on with like stocking stuffers in terms of arguments.
00:45:08.000 Hit him with the central question, which he cannot refute.
00:45:11.000 Why does Israel get an ethnostate?
00:45:13.000 Why do the Jews get a Jewish state, a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people?
00:45:17.000 And it's outlandish.
00:45:18.000 It's crazy.
00:45:19.000 It's hateful for white people to want the same.
00:45:21.000 He said it's anti Semitic to be against Israel.
00:45:24.000 It's anti Semitic to be against Zionism.
00:45:27.000 He says that you can oppose policies by Israel, but you can't be against Israel.
00:45:31.000 You can't be against Zionism.
00:45:32.000 He says it's anti Semitic.
00:45:34.000 And yet, nobody calls him anti white for being against the creation or the establishment of a white ethnostate, of a white homeland.
00:45:41.000 Whites are being discriminated against all over the world.
00:45:43.000 They're a global minority.
00:45:45.000 Why don't we get our own homeland?
00:45:47.000 That's the question.
00:45:49.000 Never mind single payer health care.
00:45:50.000 That's all you need to ask.
00:45:51.000 And then he'll have to admit.
00:45:52.000 He'll have to admit either, number one, Jewish people are better, which is, I believe, unironically what he believes, Jewish supremacist who believes that he is entitled and we are not because they are chosen or whatever, or he's going to bring up the Holocaust, in which case.
00:46:06.000 In 20 countries, it's illegal to have that debate.
00:46:08.000 And you have to ask yourself why that is.
00:46:11.000 So that's Ben.
00:46:13.000 Dominic says DACA is a good trading token as it doesn't matter.
00:46:17.000 Sorry, my nose is itching there.
00:46:19.000 DACA is a good trading token as it doesn't even matter while birthright citizenship still exists and we don't have mass deportation squads.
00:46:26.000 Winning.
00:46:30.000 I don't know if that's ironic.
00:46:31.000 I don't know if that's sarcastic.
00:46:33.000 But, you know, again, the people that are saying that the DACA deal is not good enough are comparing the real to the ideal.
00:46:41.000 They're saying because ending chain migration is reversible, we shouldn't try it.
00:46:46.000 Because DACA recipients could receive legalization in the future or pathway to citizenship in the future, we shouldn't use them as a bargaining chip to get a wall and so on and so forth.
00:46:58.000 And it's to say, well, what is the alternative?
00:47:00.000 Show me the alternative, and I will gladly oppose this.
00:47:04.000 You know, I had some guy in my Discord saying, Nick has no idea what is possible.
00:47:08.000 Nick has no idea what we could do.
00:47:10.000 Please, maybe I don't.
00:47:12.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
00:47:14.000 Maybe I haven't considered all the potentialities.
00:47:16.000 Maybe I haven't considered everything to its fullest extent.
00:47:19.000 Show me what the alternative is.
00:47:21.000 If somebody could show me a way that Republicans could get everything that we want a wall, ending chain migration, ending diversity visa, implementing eVerify, getting more border agents, defunding sanctuary cities, ending birthright citizenship, implementing the RAISE Act, ending all immigration, and so on and so on and so on, and it's not reversible by a future Congress, not reversible by a future president, we don't have to give up anything for it.
00:47:46.000 Please show me how we achieve that.
00:47:48.000 Show me how we achieve that, and I will put all my effort.
00:47:53.000 Into making that happen.
00:47:54.000 But it's not going to happen.
00:47:56.000 Look at the constraints.
00:47:58.000 You have a 51-vote majority in the Senate.
00:48:03.000 And how many of those votes are moderate or left-leaning Republicans?
00:48:06.000 The answer is four.
00:48:08.000 So, how are you going to get all of this passed?
00:48:11.000 And let's forget about irreversibility and future administrations and other things.
00:48:15.000 How are you going to get a bill that has everything hardline Republicans want if you don't even have a majority in the Senate or the House?
00:48:22.000 If you start looking at how these people vote and what these People's particular ideologies are.
00:48:26.000 How does that happen?
00:48:28.000 And then tell me how you make it irreversible, how you make it protected from a future administration or a Congress.
00:48:34.000 Show me how that happens and I'll concede.
00:48:36.000 And people say, oh, that's a straw man.
00:48:38.000 Believe me, it's not.
00:48:39.000 Believe me, it's not.
00:48:40.000 I have people tweeting at me all day long.
00:48:43.000 It's not good enough.
00:48:44.000 It's not good enough.
00:48:45.000 If they're here at all, it's not good enough.
00:48:48.000 Cutting immigration in half?
00:48:49.000 Yeah, well, they could increase it later on.
00:48:51.000 Okay, so your problem is that bills are reversible.
00:48:54.000 Your problem is that a future administration could.
00:48:57.000 Change your bill, then you're just going to have to implement a dictatorship.
00:49:01.000 And if that's the case, I would refer you, I don't know where I would refer you, but probably to a place called Not Serious in a Political Movement.
00:49:10.000 So, and that's not, that is meant to be, that is meant to be honest in the sense that we all want the same thing.
00:49:16.000 We're all on the same team here.
00:49:18.000 We all want it.
00:49:20.000 Just a matter of how do we make it happen?
00:49:23.000 And people seem to be making perfect the enemy of the good.
00:49:26.000 Everybody told me a lot about that when I suggested podiums.
00:49:29.000 Everybody told me a lot about that when I suggested.
00:49:32.000 Optical reform.
00:49:33.000 They said, no, no, we could have Nazi flags and no podiums and fat people and ugly people and trad thoughts and everything else.
00:49:40.000 Don't make perfect the enemy of the good here, Nick.
00:49:42.000 You want a movement with no Nazis in it, Nick?
00:49:44.000 You want a movement with no swastikas prominent throughout the movement?
00:49:49.000 Don't make perfect the enemy of the good.
00:49:50.000 You expect that people are paying $10,000 for a venue, book the right venue, the right size, bring a podium, look professional, have optics that appeals to people?
00:50:02.000 Don't make perfect the enemy of the good.
00:50:04.000 And now people are saying that because the deal is Don't completely unilaterally rewrite the immigration system according to the Daily Stormer or according to Bright, I mean, even Breitbart, far right ideology.
00:50:17.000 We can't have it.
00:50:18.000 Don't make perfect the enemy, the good fellas.
00:50:20.000 Take your own advice there.
00:50:23.000 So, there it is.
00:50:25.000 Simon Skola, source Ronan is an Irish goddess.
00:50:29.000 I don't know who that is.
00:50:30.000 I don't know who that is.
00:50:31.000 What just happened?
00:50:32.000 Okay.
00:50:33.000 I don't know who that is.
00:50:35.000 I just zoomed in really close on the live chat there.
00:50:37.000 I don't know how to work this.
00:50:39.000 The mousepad.
00:50:40.000 Infuriating.
00:50:41.000 It's like if you're touching it in too many places, it starts, it's like R2D2 when he spazzes out in Star Wars 3 when he confronts the super battle droids.
00:50:49.000 That's what it's like.
00:50:51.000 Marissa Blythe says he verifies improves employment outcomes for, quote, legal immigrants on temporary work visas, but not for white Americans.
00:50:59.000 Temp workers will benefit, not us.
00:51:01.000 Again, again, it's going to make illegals less employable.
00:51:06.000 Going to make illegals less employable.
00:51:09.000 So, again, the question becomes do you want illegals to stay in this country?
00:51:14.000 Because he verifies does not, I don't know, like overtly affect white immigrants or rather the native white population.
00:51:21.000 I just don't understand.
00:51:22.000 Then what's the fix?
00:51:24.000 So illegals continue to get jobs because what?
00:51:28.000 Because it would only benefit legal immigrants instead of just, you know, not benefiting illegals and everything else.
00:51:36.000 I mean, come on, guys, really?
00:51:39.000 Peter Starzonchik, I believe Trump is going to end DACA like any other Obama policy.
00:51:43.000 He did.
00:51:44.000 He rescinded DACA.
00:51:45.000 DACA is set to expire on March 5th unless.
00:51:47.000 Congressional action is taken.
00:51:50.000 Carl Ritzenthaler, how can we rebuke MGTOW and get them on our side?
00:51:54.000 Men going their own way.
00:51:55.000 It's not about rebuking them.
00:51:57.000 You have to understand where they're coming from.
00:51:59.000 You know, when people even throw MGTOW around like an epithet, that's feminist language.
00:52:04.000 And I remember during the Trad Thought debate, everybody said that if you oppose Trad Thoughts, you were siding with MGTOW and NOSBOL.
00:52:11.000 I mean, number one, that was total feminist rhetoric.
00:52:13.000 Number two, I'm sure everyone that defended the Trad Thoughts is feeling like a real fucking idiot a couple of months later.
00:52:18.000 You know, and pardon the French there.
00:52:20.000 I know this is a family program, but I mean, really, it seems like Vindication City over here with regards to the Trad Thoughts.
00:52:26.000 But it's not about rebuking them, it's about understanding the concerns.
00:52:30.000 It's about understanding what needs to be done, diagnosing the problem.
00:52:34.000 And the problem is that you have a disharmony between the sexes.
00:52:39.000 And one side blames the women and one side blames the men, and we have to rectify that.
00:52:43.000 And so the solution is not to rebuke them and say, screw you, you're a virgin, and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:51.000 Women don't like you, and that's why you're a MGTOW.
00:52:53.000 You know, that's the role, the task is not to rebuke.
00:52:56.000 I mean, remember, many of us that are in this broader coalition are here because we're all the same.
00:53:01.000 We're all disenfranchised, disillusioned white guys.
00:53:04.000 I mean, that's what it is.
00:53:07.000 And so, enough of this infighting that we see going on, and I know people are going to say, Nick is saying enough of that infighting, different.
00:53:13.000 I'm saying among the groups, you know, it's very different to say, you know, we should advocate for this and not advocate for that than saying we have to disavow total groups of people.
00:53:24.000 So, You know, we're all kind of in the same boat where some people have been disillusioned and disenfranchised by the economy, some by the dating market, some people in terms of politics.
00:53:34.000 I mean, there are all kinds of things in education and academia all over the place.
00:53:38.000 And so we have to understand where they're coming from.
00:53:41.000 I mean, where are MGTOW coming from?
00:53:43.000 You look at the divorce laws in this country, you look at marriages in this country, how insolvent they are, and how heavily women are incentivized to divorce.
00:53:51.000 If they don't like their husband, they can leave.
00:53:53.000 If they find someone better, they can leave.
00:53:55.000 If they decide they're tired of it, they can leave.
00:53:57.000 And guess what?
00:53:58.000 Not only is it if they're bored, they can leave, or not only is it if things aren't going really well, they can leave, but also if they leave, they get to take half the money, and they get to take the kids, and they get to ruin your life.
00:54:10.000 And so understand where they're coming from.
00:54:11.000 And look at even the dating market these days.
00:54:15.000 Not only for a lot of people are you in jeopardy, serious jeopardy sometimes, if you even have sex with a woman, because they could accuse you of raping them, and your life is over.
00:54:24.000 You're a sex abuser.
00:54:26.000 The courts are against you, the system is against you, and forget about it.
00:54:30.000 But then on top of that, you have these loose and promiscuous women where they're out there, and I think it's like 20% of them have more than 10 partners before they get married.
00:54:38.000 10 partners before they get married.
00:54:40.000 I'm sorry, marriage is out of the question if you're talking about more than 10 partners.
00:54:44.000 And so you've just really destroyed this whole apparatus.
00:54:48.000 And Roger Scruton, he had a really good quote about this.
00:54:51.000 I tweeted it the other night, retweeted it, where he said that basically sexual liberation, the cat is out of the bag.
00:54:57.000 You're not putting that back in.
00:54:59.000 Between birth control, between liberalism, social liberalism, I guess, taking over the downfall of traditionalism, to a certain extent, industrial society, you're not really going to get back to a total traditionalist order.
00:55:12.000 Unfortunately, I guess that's not practical right now.
00:55:14.000 But he said what the chief concern should be now is preserving the project of love and the project of raising children.
00:55:22.000 And that's true.
00:55:24.000 If we can maintain and we can restore, actually, the rearing of children and intimate love, and we're not talking about this lust, this degenerate, hedonistic sex that we're talking about, but an earnest and really a Western attraction between the two sexes, we're in a good place.
00:55:41.000 And that's how we have to come at it with the MGTOW.
00:55:42.000 And women are going to have to meet us halfway.
00:55:44.000 Have to tell you, the women.
00:55:46.000 They want to have it always.
00:55:48.000 They want to have it that you're a feminist and you're nice and you're sweet.
00:55:54.000 And, you know, she can work, she can go out and work, and she can go out and she can talk to other guys and she can do all that.
00:55:59.000 And she can have a past.
00:56:00.000 Who cares who she slept with and what kind of weird stuff goes on there?
00:56:04.000 But at the same time, you're supposed to be masculine.
00:56:07.000 At the same time, you're supposed to be a gentleman.
00:56:09.000 At the same time, you're supposed to provide.
00:56:11.000 You're supposed to be tall and you're supposed to have cool clothes and cologne and all this other stuff.
00:56:16.000 So women, they have these.
00:56:18.000 And then I see on my timeline the other day, some woman's like, Well, all the men are beta males.
00:56:23.000 Like, I want to be wifed.
00:56:24.000 I want to settle down with a man, but they're all cucks and betas.
00:56:28.000 It's like, why do you think that is?
00:56:30.000 Why do you think that is?
00:56:31.000 Maybe it's because women have been browbeating men since the time they were born, whether it's helicopter moms or female elementary school teachers or the media.
00:56:39.000 I mean, could you blame them with the feminizing culture, the estrogen and the birth control and the water and the food, the xenoestrogens?
00:56:46.000 Nobody's working out.
00:56:47.000 Nobody can be masculine.
00:56:48.000 We can't have heroes, can't have war, can't have cowboys and Indians.
00:56:53.000 And you wonder why, right?
00:56:54.000 With these doting women.
00:56:59.000 So, there it is.
00:57:00.000 That's MGTOW.
00:57:01.000 That's MGTOW.
00:57:02.000 We got to understand them.
00:57:04.000 We got to come at it from a place still understand.
00:57:06.000 And women got to meet us halfway.
00:57:08.000 Men can meet you halfway.
00:57:10.000 We'll go to the gym.
00:57:11.000 We'll provide.
00:57:12.000 We'll go back to being men if you meet us halfway and you go back to being women, which means no working, unless, of course, you know, unless you're like below the poverty line and you need two incomes, in which case, you know, we make those exemptions.
00:57:26.000 If you're a widow, you know, other.
00:57:27.000 Other outstanding features.
00:57:29.000 But we're talking, generally speaking, the expectation is that you are monogamous, you're exclusive.
00:57:35.000 There is some aspect of modesty, sexual modesty.
00:57:39.000 There's not this hookup culture among the women that they want to adopt the male sexual mindset and that they will be home rearing the children.
00:57:48.000 If you meet us halfway on that regard, I am certain men will meet them there.
00:57:53.000 But that's MGTOW.
00:57:56.000 I feel for him, I really do.
00:57:57.000 Owen.
00:57:58.000 Would you have Steve King on the show?
00:57:59.000 Of course, I would have Steve King on the show.
00:58:01.000 Of course, I would.
00:58:03.000 Simon Skola, why would anyone be a Duganist?
00:58:06.000 I don't get it.
00:58:07.000 I don't know.
00:58:07.000 You'd have to ask them.
00:58:08.000 You'd have to ask them.
00:58:10.000 And yeah, it's so interesting with the Duganists.
00:58:13.000 I was called Nazbol all day long.
00:58:15.000 Nick, you're Nazbol.
00:58:16.000 Nick, Nazbol people are ruining the movement.
00:58:18.000 You know, countless people, friends of mine, told me I was siding with a toxic element on the right called the Nazbols, National Bolsheviks.
00:58:28.000 I.e., Duganists.
00:58:30.000 They were saying, you are siding with Duganists who want to see the movement burn.
00:58:35.000 You are siding with Duganists who are only destructive.
00:58:37.000 And these are the same people who will commend Richard Spencer.
00:58:40.000 And that's not to say that Richard Spencer is a bad guy or anything.
00:58:43.000 I'm not implicating him in this at all.
00:58:46.000 But Richard Spencer's wife translates books for Dugan, and Richard Spencer publishes books by Dugan.
00:58:52.000 And that's not a dig at either of them.
00:58:53.000 Spencer got kind of offended because I mentioned his wife.
00:58:57.000 But the point was to illustrate that everybody was saying, I'm a bad guy because I'm saying the same things that Duganists are saying.
00:59:05.000 Meanwhile, they look up to, in many cases, our.
00:59:07.000 You know, very close affiliates of somebody who is an actual Duganist or has Duganist connections, you know.
00:59:15.000 So that's all I meant by that.
00:59:16.000 But that's my connection to Duganism.
00:59:19.000 I found that very confusing.
00:59:20.000 Nick, you're repeating the same things.
00:59:23.000 Even though you're not Nasbol, you're saying the same things as Nasbol.
00:59:27.000 And Nasbol doesn't have the right intentions.
00:59:28.000 Duganists don't have the right intentions.
00:59:30.000 Meanwhile, they'll go and play up Spencer, who publishes Dugan's books, who knows Dugan personally.
00:59:35.000 It's just.
00:59:38.000 And again, that's not a dig at him.
00:59:39.000 That's not a dig at Spencer.
00:59:42.000 Spencer can be a Duganist.
00:59:44.000 You know, people can be Duganists, but you can't go around saying that Nick is a bad guy for allegedly associating with these people and you love a guy that is actually, you know, the founder of the ideology.
00:59:59.000 But don't want to go back and re litigate that.
01:00:01.000 But that's going to do it for us tonight.
01:00:03.000 Looks like those are all of our super chats.
01:00:06.000 So that is going to do it for us tonight on another hard hitting episode of America First.
01:00:11.000 Lots of yelling.
01:00:13.000 Loud, angry yelling.
01:00:15.000 But that's our show for tonight.
01:00:18.000 And I have to announce before we go, before anybody goes, sit tight for a moment.
01:00:22.000 I will be announcing we will be having a debate on Monday.
01:00:26.000 And I said this yesterday that I would announce it today.
01:00:29.000 Our debate on Monday is between myself and Jacob Wool, W O H L, from Twitter.
01:00:35.000 You saw him.
01:00:36.000 He tweeted at me about the Neilan interview.
01:00:38.000 Jacob Wool, I got in a fight with his dad.
01:00:40.000 His dad blocked me on Twitter.
01:00:43.000 He's a big Jewish Zionist kind of a guy.
01:00:45.000 We'll be debating about Israel.
01:00:47.000 He seems to think that the Jerusalem thing was a good deal.
01:00:50.000 He seems to think war in Iran is a good deal.
01:00:52.000 And so we'll be sitting down with him about our Israel policy on Monday for a big debate.
01:00:57.000 So get excited for it.
01:00:58.000 It's going to be fun.
01:00:58.000 It's going to be a big event.
01:01:00.000 Hopefully, we'll figure out the technology in time for that.
01:01:03.000 I know we're having a little bit of trouble in the company making it happen, but we will see to it that we have the technology over there for the big debate.
01:01:12.000 So that's what's on the horizon.
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