00:00:35.000So for those who are unaware, can you please give a brief introduction of yourself as well as the different ways that you're involved in politics right now?
00:00:47.000Or, like you said a little bit ago, I host the Nationalist Review with James Alsup on Spreaker, and I host my own show, America First, Monday through Friday, on my own YouTube channel.
00:00:58.000Those are probably the biggest ways I'm involved with politics right now.
00:01:02.000Me and James are about to launch a co venture starting probably this week, so you'll see a little bit more content, a little bit more of us later this month.
00:01:36.000So, are you guys going to try and, is it going to be more commentary reporting, or are you going to actually try and get some original reporting and reporters out on the ground and stuff like that?
00:01:46.000Well, I think it'll be mostly opinion, but, you know, Not so many details, so now, not just yet.
00:01:51.000We still haven't launched, but it'll be big.
00:01:53.000I think a lot of people will really be pleased to see that there is something in the works with this sort of camp, this movement.
00:02:02.000So, as I mentioned before this interview, I only recently discovered who you are, but I've been watching and really enjoying your America First live streams.
00:02:08.000And I know you have very good and insightful political commentary.
00:02:11.000I like it because it seems like you have an original opinion, an original perspective that's coming from you.
00:02:16.000So, I'm curious about your opinion then, how you think Trump is doing so far.
00:02:21.000What do you think are the good things he's done?
00:02:22.000Maybe the things you're disappointed in, just as a whole?
00:02:31.000But I would say that with President Trump, it's sort of difficult because, and I was just talking to a New York Times reporter who was over here the other day, and I was trying to impress upon her just how significant his victory was for people on the right wing, like just how personally invested we were in that, and so how important he is as a figure for everybody, whether you're a Republican or.
00:02:55.000Alt right or conservative, you know, whatever you call yourself, that was a big moment.
00:03:00.000And so that said, I've sort of been walking the line here.
00:03:04.000I've sort of been straddling the line where, on the one hand, we haven't seen a lot of progress on the issues that we want to see progress on.
00:03:10.000You know, the wall, we're still only building prototypes.
00:03:13.000We don't know if it's going to be funded.
00:03:15.000There's talks about DACA being enshrined in law.
00:03:18.000Of course, that was a little bit up in the air last week.
00:04:26.000Yeah, I definitely think the wall will get built.
00:04:29.000I think it's just a matter of the political will.
00:04:31.000And I think, you know, the biggest thing that we have going for us in terms of the wall is that he won't win a second term if the wall isn't built.
00:04:39.000And so I think, you know, just by that nature, and especially I think the primaries will give us a good insight into how feasible this will be in the next four years.
00:04:48.000Because if, for example, Like Luther Strange loses in Alabama because, you know, he wasn't hard on immigration.
00:04:56.000If major people in the Republican Party start getting primaried in 2018, for example, Jeff Flake in Arizona, or possibly even Mitch McConnell or some of these others in the establishment, I think that'll show us that even the Republican Party writ large will have to have the wall built to maintain their majority.
00:05:14.000So I think that Trump definitely has the political incentive.
00:05:19.000And I think depending on the outcome of 2018, that mandate may also be on the Republican Party in Congress as well.
00:05:27.000So, your co host from the National Review, Nationalist Review, James Alsop recently made a very interesting video that I would like your opinion on.
00:06:01.000And I think James is very prescient in making a video about that.
00:06:05.000And I think because you look at what the sex spot represents for the West and for the relationship between men and women.
00:06:12.000And this is really sort of this definitive turning point, I think, in the relationships between the sexes, where you see that as feminism has eroded what it means to be a woman down to essentially being a sex object, because.
00:06:31.000They're just supposed to be men with boobs.
00:06:33.000They're just supposed to be men, you know, excuse the vulgarity, but they're supposed to be just essentially men but with longer hair.
00:06:40.000And now that you see the advent of the sex robot, where it can probably do more things in terms of sexuality because it's bionic and all of that without the downside of the nagging feminist who demands things and they want money and they have all these needs and everything else, I think this will be a real turning point where.
00:06:59.000Women and feminism will become bankrupt and they'll have to return to becoming everything that a woman means outside of just the sexual object that feminism has degraded them into being.
00:07:27.000They're like, why is this such a thing?
00:07:29.000Threat, you know, writing their blog posts.
00:07:31.000But I mean, anyone with enough foresight, with any foresight at all, can see it coming.
00:07:35.000So I think it's very interesting, though, to see them freaking out.
00:07:38.000But it's kind of like they're digging their own grave, you know?
00:07:41.000So during one of your America First live streams, you mentioned that you meet conservative women who advocate for traditionalism, and yet they don't actually want to take that role.
00:07:51.000They want to have careers while, you know, talking about traditionalism, but they're not, they're kind of still, in a way, feminist.
00:08:00.000They're acting like them, but maybe not saying that they are.
00:08:02.000So, do you think, you know, because feminism has kind of made men and women opponents, whereas they're supposed to be partners, like opposites that complement one another.
00:08:11.000So, I'm curious, how do you think we could get closer to traditionalism?
00:08:16.000To take the first step, or is it equal men and women kind of have to collectively come together?
00:08:22.000I think it is that collective come together where both sides have to recognize the complementary nature that they play in a union between men and women.
00:08:33.000Where, and you know, you bring up the conservathots, as I like to call them, where they demand at once that men be strong and they be muscular and have beards and they have to provide and they have to be smart and everything else.
00:08:46.000And there's really no expectation for women where women can be.
00:08:50.000And if they want a balloon up to 400 pounds, you know, that should be fine.
00:08:54.000That should be just as good as someone who's got a nice figure and everything else.
00:08:58.000I think it is sort of both sides need to walk it back to what is a man, what is a woman, what can they do for each other.
00:09:05.000And ultimately, you know, maybe the sex robot thing will bring them together.
00:09:08.000Maybe it'll be the media which brings them together.
00:09:10.000But certainly with conservative women, I think you don't see enough of that.
00:09:14.000Where the conservative men are, a lot of them, I think, are there.
00:09:17.000Maybe not many because you have a lot of these like fat cucks like Matt Collar and some of the other ones.
00:09:23.000But certainly the women who preach this traditional role, they say they don't like feminism, but yet they're out there unmarried without kids, and some of them are in advanced age, like 30 or 40 or whatever.
00:09:34.000And you just have to walk the walk as well as talk the talk.
00:09:38.000I probably can predict your answer to this, but what is your opinion of women in politics?
00:09:43.000Do you think that they can be an asset, or do you think, would you rather all across the board just leave it to the men?
00:09:51.000You know, I would generally prefer that it be left to the men, and that is.
00:09:55.000That is mostly because I think that politics is a very ugly, brutal game that is unbecoming of a woman.
00:10:02.000And people think that, you know, me and James, we joke a lot about respecting women and, you know, patrolling them and everything else.
00:10:09.000But it really is from a position of respect that we say that women should solely and exclusively partake in the miracle of life, in the miracle of motherhood, which should be a sacred role.
00:10:21.000And it's been so degraded and disrespected and mocked in modern culture that the house mom.
00:10:27.000Or the housewife is like this pathetic loser.
00:10:32.000I mean, she, the house mother, has in her ancestry, or at least in her archetype, Mother Mary, Mother Nature, people that create in the image of God.
00:10:45.000So, I mean, it's really a sacred role that we've taken away from them.
00:10:48.000That said, in this struggle, it is sort of all hands on deck.
00:10:51.000So, people like yourself, people like Tara McCarthy, who I was just talking to, and others, you know, so long as there is this recognition of.
00:11:00.000Fundamentally, the ideal is to get away from this.
00:11:02.000I think for the time being, if people want to contribute and they want to write, so long as that's not their North Star, their entire being, I don't see anything totally wrong with it.
00:11:12.000Yeah, and maybe for a lot of women, I think they can particularly be useful in fighting the culture war.
00:11:17.000I think they can be influential there because, I mean, there are a lot more men involved in politics just because women aren't as naturally interested and they don't understand all the nuances, everything like that.
00:13:08.000I got all kinds of death threats from people from my college, from people from even my high school, from people in the community.
00:13:14.000People reached out and threatened my family, my uncles and aunts.
00:13:18.000My parents, a lot of my friends from middle and high school, people I had known for years, blocked me on Facebook, blocked me on Instagram, you know, whatever else.
00:13:27.000So it was a point where I think I found out who my real friends were.
00:13:32.000You know, I think who was really in my corner.
00:13:35.000And I think it also showed me that there is only one path here.
00:13:39.000There is no way where you can really, I guess, do this half heartedly.
00:13:43.000I was going to say something else, but half heartedly go about this political revolution where if you're even present there, and I know even Faith Goldie was there covering.
00:13:53.000And, you know, that gave her one strike with Ezra Levant at the Rebel.
00:13:57.000And people like myself who were there and repeatedly condemned the worst elements, and we were smeared and dragged through the mud in the press as white supremacists, Nazis.
00:14:15.000Your friends, even if they don't agree with you politically, there are some that are tolerant and it's very nice, but for the most part, they're just not.
00:14:24.000Once you come out publicly under your real face and name, it's.
00:14:27.000Kind of got to be your full time career.
00:14:30.000And that kind of leads me to my next question.
00:14:31.000Actually, do you have any future plans to like run for any kind of political office or like what's your ultimate goal, uh, political wise?
00:14:39.000Well, I mean, eventually I'd like to run for office.
00:14:42.000I think eventually the answer would be government.
00:14:44.000But for right now, what I've been telling people on my show is we have to really focus on laying down the groundwork right now, building up the institutions and the infrastructure so that in 20 or 30 years we could win elections.
00:14:56.000And people, I think, on the alt right and sort of on the fringe right, They have these fantastical ideas that there's going to be secession or, you know, there's going to be a violent revolution.
00:15:06.000Until we can match the might of the U.S. military, we have to win elections.
00:15:11.000And so, right now, I'm really focused on, through media, through outreach, and other things, trying to get people to build this electorate that we're going to need, which is conscious of white identity, but also beyond that, is conscious of civic virtue, is conscious of moral virtue.
00:15:27.000I mean, we have to get people going to church again, people to be sexually virtuous again, and everything else.
00:15:33.000And Then maybe in 30 years, there will be room for nationalist, explicitly white identitarian candidates to be put up and really restore our country.
00:15:42.000But until we get the people great again, I don't think you get the country great again.
00:15:55.000If people change from within, no one's going to even want it.
00:15:59.000But if you just make it illegal, then the next person who comes along that is in favor of it, that has influence, They're going to just switch it back, or people will do it illegally, or whatever.
00:16:07.000So, we do that's a very important thing.
00:16:09.000So, what cultural shifts do you think, the main ones, do you think that we need to move towards a better society?
00:16:14.000It all revolves fundamentally, I think, around the family.
00:16:18.000And basically, everything, as I've been on this really intellectual, like philosophical odyssey, a journey after college and after the election, was basically seeing everything through the lens, through the prism of the family, which is to say that even yesterday, you know, you imagine feminism as sort of like this is an ancillary issue that affects college kids and the dating scene and all of that.
00:16:43.000This is not really relevant to the big questions.
00:16:45.000But if you think about what dating means, if you think about what feminism means, it means that you won't have families.
00:16:52.000You won't have functional families that are bearing fruitful marriages and fruitful households with good, virtuous children.
00:16:59.000And so, I mean, that's a big part of it, is simply getting men and women to come together again and respect each other and to understand each other's separate roles.
00:17:09.000I think religion, nation is a big part of it.
00:17:13.000The drug epidemic, the drug abuse epidemic in the country, the suicide epidemic, this all stems from a lack of meaning in people's lives where they're just sort of hurtling through their lives, going from school to college to full time job to retirement, and there's no end goal.
00:17:30.000There's nothing beyond the temporal, I think, that gives them satisfaction and fulfillment.
00:17:36.000So, certainly, it's this existential component, it's the social between the sexes component, and then, of course, there's the economics, making it conducive to.
00:17:45.000So that people can have comfortable lives with big families.
00:17:48.000And so once you align all the stars, once you align all of that, I think that will produce a social movement that will, I think it'll give birth to a great nation again.
00:17:57.000And so those are probably the three main things I'm focusing on right now.
00:18:50.000If the women be, or rather the opposite, if the women become pleasant and modest again and everything else, the men will come.
00:18:56.000You know, believe me, the problem is definitely not like men not lusting after women or wanting to engage with women.
00:19:03.000I think it's just a matter of if you get women back to the position of they want someone that provides for them rather than they want like this ever increasing sexual stimulation from novel partners, I think it'll be a self solving problem because you have to recognize that these forces we're talking about.
00:19:22.000Whether it's tradition, the sexes, everything else.
00:19:30.000And we just have to give it a little bit of a push.
00:19:33.000And I think for the most part, it'll take care of itself.
00:19:35.000And, you know, that said, it's far easier to destroy something that's been built up than to create it again.
00:19:42.000But these things are so, I think, deeply embedded inside of us that once we get moving in the right trajectory, you'll have this element of momentum where more and more people will see the effects of it, the positivity.
00:19:54.000But it's something as simple as, you know, getting off of Tinder, you know, people waiting until marriage to have sex, getting off of all the dating apps and getting rid of all of the rest and just starting to see each other as men and women again and everything that that entails.
00:20:09.000I don't know if you're aware of who Fulton Sheen is, but he actually, yeah, he's wonderful.
00:20:14.000He said something about women that I think is very true that societies can be defined by the level of their women in the sense that a very good woman makes a man want to be better in order to deserve her, whereas a woman who has no standards at all doesn't incentivize a man in any way to try and be better.
00:20:31.000I think there is a lot of truth there.
00:20:33.000And the level of women in our society has just fallen so far, but then again, they've been attacking women for decades, trying to get them to this spot.
00:21:07.000Do you think that time is wasted talking about them, or do you think they are as big of a threat as a lot of people present them as?
00:21:15.000You know, Antifa is one of the things that really pushed me very far to the right.
00:21:20.000You know, when I was in Boston and I went the eve of the inauguration, there was a massive protest at night, and you get a totally different crowd at night than you do in the day.
00:21:30.000And there were maybe 100 Antifa, which sounds like an exaggeration, but probably 100 black masks, black hoodies, and jeans, and flags, and everything else.
00:21:39.000And I saw the violence, the anarchy, the chaos, and I thought, this cannot go on any longer.
00:21:46.000You know, we need someone like J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI.
00:21:51.000And, you know, I don't even know if they're like a huge threat more broadly, but it is what they represent, which is that they are the foot soldiers of the establishment.
00:22:00.000They are the foot soldiers of the neoliberal order that, in this normalization of political violence, they will only increase, I think, the amount of energy, the amount of chaos until there is a point where we can't control it anymore.
00:22:14.000And so I thought that at Berkeley, they had a really good handle on it with the Ben Shapiro event, where when they imposed the no mask rule, Antifa goes away.
00:22:24.000So I think that's a good way to combat them.
00:22:26.000But I definitely don't think it's a waste of time talking about them because it just goes to show the fact that you can talk about free speech, you can talk about how you condemn political violence, and every day of the week, the mainstream media turns a blind eye to it on the left.
00:22:41.000And so I think they're really a touchstone about this debate in the country.
00:22:45.000And I really appreciate when people running for political office, like Paul Nealon, discusses Antifa and presents them as an actual problem.
00:22:52.000They're not afraid to take that by the horns, whereas Paul Ryan or something won't even denounce them.
00:22:58.000But Hoover, you mentioned he was brutal.
00:23:27.000Usually, we do 45 minutes of news stories, commentary, personal stories of how it's going on in my life.
00:23:33.000And then we take questions in the last 15 minutes.
00:23:36.000And the objective of that show was really I mean, it initially started out mostly as practice for me to focus on my delivery and focus on delivering the facts in an efficient, entertaining way.
00:23:48.000But as it's evolved, as we've entered the third season of it, because we were on RSPN in the spring, we were on again in the summer, and then I started it independently, the mission of the show has evolved really to pitch the news from an America first perspective and to take all the news of the day, the current events, and step outside of this left right sort of a thing, which is so, I think, facile and asinine,
00:24:14.000and enter into a real paradigm that matters, which is how are we going to take what we see in the news.
00:24:19.000And put it into context of what's been going on over the past 50 years.
00:24:23.000Put it into the context of what is the real problem?
00:24:26.000Who are the real people culpable for what's been going on in the country?
00:24:31.000And so we take a lot of the news and we go, I think, really into depth on it in a way that like Crowder and Ben Shapiro don't.
00:24:38.000And then Nationalist Review, that's every Saturday, me and James Alsup.
00:24:51.000And it's fun for that one just to, I think, for me and James Alsop, who are a little bit edgier, more farther to the right, to give a little bit of a white pill where we talk about the issues, but it's fun and we show people that we're just a couple of guys.
00:25:54.000Paraphrase Oswald Mosley, who, you know, again, some not so great connotations, but he said, you know, never before have we faced greater glory or greater defeat in terms of this opportunity before us.
00:26:05.000And I think it's the time to prove the strength and the will and the spirit of the European people in times of tragedy, in times of chaos, in times of disorder.
00:26:15.000And you see, even maybe 500 years ago, where the Ottomans or the Muslim Empire had control of Spain and they were going into France and onto the mainland of Italy and up through to Vienna in 1529 and then in 1683.
00:26:30.000I think you definitely have seen this sort of thing before and certainly not of the same nature, whereas before it was invading armies and different states and now it's within and without at the same time.
00:26:41.000People inside the country and inside the decision making institutions, it's definitely a more complicated, more difficult situation.
00:26:52.000And that goes to, I think, a lot of what we say about our people, but that.
00:26:56.000When people talk about the issues, I don't know if they believe.
00:26:59.000I don't know if they believe and have faith in the same way as though they talk about their people.
00:27:03.000Where, you know, Richard Spencer and some of these other characters go out and talk about how we landed on the moon, we did all these great things, we created all these great things.
00:27:13.000But then I think they lose faith when they see what we're up against.
00:27:17.000And I think that's sort of counterintuitive as to how we speak of our people, where we can accomplish what has never been done.
00:27:23.000We can recover from something we thought impossible.
00:27:26.000And I have a lot of faith in my people over in Europe.
00:29:23.000Like, I was reading Death of the West when I first started reading, and I was in like Boston.
00:29:29.000I was in Boston in the fall of last year, and I usually keep like a notepad of like allusions or things to look up if I want to Google them later.
00:29:37.000And I'm in like 10 pages to Pat Buchanan, and I've already filled up the whole page with allusions and book references.
00:29:44.000I mean, you could read a Pat Buchanan book, and you have like 10 pages of a reading list.
00:29:49.000I mean, all the different books he's referenced, all the different anecdotes or stories or poems or anything like that.
00:29:55.000Pat Buchanan's opinions, which in themselves, I think his historical knowledge, his political knowledge, is unsurpassed by really any commentator today.
00:30:04.000But then on top of that, I mean, all the other materials that he references, I mean, it's invaluable.
00:30:11.000And it's funny to me because you see someone like Ben Shapiro, who he spent his whole career calling Pat Buchanan a racist and an anti Semite and trying to take him down.
00:30:20.000And you read Ben Shapiro and it's short snippets, it's very vapid, it's very kind of empty popcorn sort of stuff.
00:30:27.000And then you read Pat Buchanan and say what you will about the prejudices, but it's deep.
00:30:57.000Mainstream media reign is coming to a close.
00:31:01.000Do you think they have just as much influence, or do you think that alternative media is really giving them a run for their money, such as Breitbart?
00:31:07.000And a lot of people are losing faith in their power structure.
00:31:12.000Well, I think you'll always have the mainstream media.
00:31:14.000People have, again, they have these fantasies of like New York's Time takes down their big sign and they close their offices.
00:31:22.000I don't know if that'll ever happen, just given the sheer amount of resources that are at their disposal.
00:31:27.000I think people really underestimate that these are billion dollar industries in terms of.
00:31:32.000The equipment, the infrastructure, the payroll, and everything else.
00:31:35.000So, I mean, we'll see that for quite some time.
00:31:38.000That said, you look at Fox News as a case study where they've had to let go almost all of their talent from Megyn Kelly to Bill O'Reilly to even like Stossel and Greta Van Sustren and who was the last one to just leave?
00:31:52.000Eric Bolling and Bob Beckel and so many of them have just had to go.
00:31:56.000And I think it illustrates the strength of the alternative media, which is that we don't have to play by the same rules.
00:32:02.000We don't have the same business structure that they do where if someone says something a little bit that's not PC advertisers are out, they lose all their revenue.
00:32:11.000So I definitely think that the alternative media, you're seeing their strengths being played to by the current political climate where people are looking for something that's more authentic, more genuine, more by the people, for the people, populist, grassroots stuff.
00:32:26.000And so I think that's definitely coming at the expense of the mainstream.