America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Brittany Pettibone - Nationalism and Traditionalism with Nicholas Fuentes

00:00:18.000 Hey guys, today I am here with Nick Fuentes, who hosts the YouTube show America First.

00:00:23.000 And he also co hosts the Nationalist Review with James Alsop, who I've also interviewed a few weeks ago.

00:00:28.000 I'll link that in the description.

00:00:29.000 So thank you so much for joining me, Nick.

00:00:31.000 I appreciate your time.

00:00:32.000 Thanks for having me.

00:00:33.000 Good to be with you.

00:00:34.000 Yeah, it's a pleasure.

00:00:35.000 So for those who are unaware, can you please give a brief introduction of yourself as well as the different ways that you're involved in politics right now?

00:00:42.000 Sure.

00:00:43.000 So my name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:00:44.000 I'm from Chicago, Illinois.

00:00:47.000 Or, like you said a little bit ago, I host the Nationalist Review with James Alsup on Spreaker, and I host my own show, America First, Monday through Friday, on my own YouTube channel.

00:00:58.000 Those are probably the biggest ways I'm involved with politics right now.

00:01:02.000 Me and James are about to launch a co venture starting probably this week, so you'll see a little bit more content, a little bit more of us later this month.

00:01:11.000 All right, cool.

00:01:12.000 And what's the co venture that you and James are going to be doing?

00:01:15.000 Can you talk about that yet, or is it more secretive at the moment?

00:01:18.000 Well, it is a little bit secretive at the moment.

00:01:21.000 We're not so much public yet, but contracts are being signed.

00:01:25.000 We're building a new website.

00:01:27.000 We're building a new platform for a little bit.

00:01:30.000 I guess the space between Breitbart and maybe Daily Storm.

00:01:33.000 We're trying to get right in the middle of it.

00:01:36.000 Wow, that's amazing.

00:01:36.000 So, are you guys going to try and, is it going to be more commentary reporting, or are you going to actually try and get some original reporting and reporters out on the ground and stuff like that?

00:01:46.000 Well, I think it'll be mostly opinion, but, you know, Not so many details, so now, not just yet.

00:01:51.000 We still haven't launched, but it'll be big.

00:01:53.000 I think a lot of people will really be pleased to see that there is something in the works with this sort of camp, this movement.

00:02:00.000 So it'll be big.

00:02:01.000 Oh, very cool.

00:02:02.000 So, as I mentioned before this interview, I only recently discovered who you are, but I've been watching and really enjoying your America First live streams.

00:02:08.000 And I know you have very good and insightful political commentary.

00:02:11.000 I like it because it seems like you have an original opinion, an original perspective that's coming from you.

00:02:16.000 So, I'm curious about your opinion then, how you think Trump is doing so far.

00:02:21.000 What do you think are the good things he's done?

00:02:22.000 Maybe the things you're disappointed in, just as a whole?

00:02:26.000 Sure.

00:02:27.000 So, well, first, thank you.

00:02:28.000 I'm glad you enjoyed the content.

00:02:30.000 Thank you for the compliment.

00:02:31.000 But I would say that with President Trump, it's sort of difficult because, and I was just talking to a New York Times reporter who was over here the other day, and I was trying to impress upon her just how significant his victory was for people on the right wing, like just how personally invested we were in that, and so how important he is as a figure for everybody, whether you're a Republican or.

00:02:55.000 Alt right or conservative, you know, whatever you call yourself, that was a big moment.

00:02:59.000 He's our number one guy.

00:03:00.000 And so that said, I've sort of been walking the line here.

00:03:04.000 I've sort of been straddling the line where, on the one hand, we haven't seen a lot of progress on the issues that we want to see progress on.

00:03:10.000 You know, the wall, we're still only building prototypes.

00:03:13.000 We don't know if it's going to be funded.

00:03:15.000 There's talks about DACA being enshrined in law.

00:03:18.000 Of course, that was a little bit up in the air last week.

00:03:21.000 The healthcare thing didn't happen.

00:03:22.000 Tax reform hasn't happened.

00:03:24.000 And so, On the one hand, I understand that.

00:03:27.000 I understand that there hasn't been a lot of progress, but by the same token, I think there is a bigger strategy at play.

00:03:33.000 I think he's playing the long game for his whole four years and possibly for eight years.

00:03:38.000 So it's sort of this duality to it where I'm not totally impressed with it so far.

00:03:44.000 I'm not totally impressed with the progress, but at the same time, I think there's something more.

00:03:48.000 I think there's more in the works than everything we can see right now.

00:03:52.000 So I'm sort of 50 50 on Trump.

00:03:54.000 And I do notice that there are many people who, right out of the gate, he wasn't getting things immediately done that they wanted to.

00:03:54.000 Right.

00:04:00.000 See getting them.

00:04:00.000 So they're like, I'm pulling my support.

00:04:02.000 I don't support Trump anymore.

00:04:03.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:04:03.000 You know, it was all a lie.

00:04:04.000 And I'm like, give him some time.

00:04:06.000 Do you realize what he's up against in the White House?

00:04:09.000 Like, hardly anyone supports him.

00:04:10.000 So, and you have people like Paul Ryan undermining him at every turn.

00:04:14.000 So we got to be patient, judge him as a whole.

00:04:16.000 I do agree with this.

00:04:17.000 But regarding the wall you mentioned, do you actually think it's a possibility that it will, in fact, be built?

00:04:23.000 Or are we in for a disappointment there?

00:04:25.000 Okay, cool.

00:04:26.000 Yeah, I definitely think the wall will get built.

00:04:29.000 I think it's just a matter of the political will.

00:04:31.000 And I think, you know, the biggest thing that we have going for us in terms of the wall is that he won't win a second term if the wall isn't built.

00:04:39.000 And so I think, you know, just by that nature, and especially I think the primaries will give us a good insight into how feasible this will be in the next four years.

00:04:48.000 Because if, for example, Like Luther Strange loses in Alabama because, you know, he wasn't hard on immigration.

00:04:56.000 If major people in the Republican Party start getting primaried in 2018, for example, Jeff Flake in Arizona, or possibly even Mitch McConnell or some of these others in the establishment, I think that'll show us that even the Republican Party writ large will have to have the wall built to maintain their majority.

00:05:14.000 So I think that Trump definitely has the political incentive.

00:05:18.000 It has to happen for him.

00:05:19.000 And I think depending on the outcome of 2018, that mandate may also be on the Republican Party in Congress as well.

00:05:27.000 So, your co host from the National Review, Nationalist Review, James Alsop recently made a very interesting video that I would like your opinion on.

00:05:35.000 And you probably know the one I mean.

00:05:37.000 It actually has done very well. 1.00

00:05:38.000 It's about how feminists are growing very scared of the growing sex robot industry, which they are calling toxic masculinity.

00:05:49.000 But I'm curious about your opinion on this.

00:05:51.000 Do you think it's something that it is, in fact, going to be very lucrative and is a big threat?

00:05:55.000 Or maybe it'll just be more of a fringe thing.

00:05:59.000 I think it's definitely a big threat.

00:06:01.000 And I think James is very prescient in making a video about that.

00:06:05.000 And I think because you look at what the sex spot represents for the West and for the relationship between men and women.

00:06:12.000 And this is really sort of this definitive turning point, I think, in the relationships between the sexes, where you see that as feminism has eroded what it means to be a woman down to essentially being a sex object, because.

00:06:27.000 They're not wives. 0.83

00:06:28.000 They're not mothers. 0.99

00:06:29.000 They're not pleasant.

00:06:30.000 They're not modest. 0.99

00:06:31.000 They're just supposed to be men with boobs. 0.91

00:06:33.000 They're just supposed to be men, you know, excuse the vulgarity, but they're supposed to be just essentially men but with longer hair. 0.67

00:06:40.000 And now that you see the advent of the sex robot, where it can probably do more things in terms of sexuality because it's bionic and all of that without the downside of the nagging feminist who demands things and they want money and they have all these needs and everything else, I think this will be a real turning point where.

00:06:59.000 Women and feminism will become bankrupt and they'll have to return to becoming everything that a woman means outside of just the sexual object that feminism has degraded them into being.

00:07:11.000 Right.

00:07:12.000 And I think that just in the way that many women have a natural desire to nurture, men have a natural desire to protect. 0.92

00:07:19.000 And when the women usurp the male role, they take that away. 0.98

00:07:22.000 They're emasculating men in a way. 1.00

00:07:24.000 So they don't desire these women. 0.99

00:07:26.000 But these women don't understand it. 0.56

00:07:27.000 They're like, why is this such a thing? 1.00

00:07:29.000 Threat, you know, writing their blog posts.

00:07:31.000 But I mean, anyone with enough foresight, with any foresight at all, can see it coming.

00:07:35.000 So I think it's very interesting, though, to see them freaking out.

00:07:38.000 But it's kind of like they're digging their own grave, you know?

00:07:41.000 So during one of your America First live streams, you mentioned that you meet conservative women who advocate for traditionalism, and yet they don't actually want to take that role.

00:07:51.000 They want to have careers while, you know, talking about traditionalism, but they're not, they're kind of still, in a way, feminist.

00:07:58.000 They're just not.

00:08:00.000 They're acting like them, but maybe not saying that they are.

00:08:02.000 So, do you think, you know, because feminism has kind of made men and women opponents, whereas they're supposed to be partners, like opposites that complement one another.

00:08:11.000 So, I'm curious, how do you think we could get closer to traditionalism?

00:08:15.000 Do you think women would have to?

00:08:16.000 To take the first step, or is it equal men and women kind of have to collectively come together?

00:08:22.000 I think it is that collective come together where both sides have to recognize the complementary nature that they play in a union between men and women.

00:08:31.000 And we've definitely lost that.

00:08:33.000 Where, and you know, you bring up the conservathots, as I like to call them, where they demand at once that men be strong and they be muscular and have beards and they have to provide and they have to be smart and everything else. 0.91

00:08:46.000 And there's really no expectation for women where women can be. 0.99

00:08:50.000 And if they want a balloon up to 400 pounds, you know, that should be fine. 1.00

00:08:54.000 That should be just as good as someone who's got a nice figure and everything else. 0.87

00:08:58.000 I think it is sort of both sides need to walk it back to what is a man, what is a woman, what can they do for each other.

00:09:05.000 And ultimately, you know, maybe the sex robot thing will bring them together.

00:09:08.000 Maybe it'll be the media which brings them together. 1.00

00:09:10.000 But certainly with conservative women, I think you don't see enough of that. 0.80

00:09:14.000 Where the conservative men are, a lot of them, I think, are there. 0.93

00:09:17.000 Maybe not many because you have a lot of these like fat cucks like Matt Collar and some of the other ones.

00:09:23.000 But certainly the women who preach this traditional role, they say they don't like feminism, but yet they're out there unmarried without kids, and some of them are in advanced age, like 30 or 40 or whatever. 0.99

00:09:34.000 And you just have to walk the walk as well as talk the talk. 1.00

00:09:38.000 I probably can predict your answer to this, but what is your opinion of women in politics? 1.00

00:09:43.000 Do you think that they can be an asset, or do you think, would you rather all across the board just leave it to the men? 1.00

00:09:51.000 You know, I would generally prefer that it be left to the men, and that is. 1.00

00:09:55.000 That is mostly because I think that politics is a very ugly, brutal game that is unbecoming of a woman. 0.98

00:10:02.000 And people think that, you know, me and James, we joke a lot about respecting women and, you know, patrolling them and everything else.

00:10:09.000 But it really is from a position of respect that we say that women should solely and exclusively partake in the miracle of life, in the miracle of motherhood, which should be a sacred role.

00:10:21.000 And it's been so degraded and disrespected and mocked in modern culture that the house mom. 0.98

00:10:27.000 Or the housewife is like this pathetic loser. 1.00

00:10:31.000 But I think the opposite. 0.99

00:10:32.000 I mean, she, the house mother, has in her ancestry, or at least in her archetype, Mother Mary, Mother Nature, people that create in the image of God.

00:10:45.000 So, I mean, it's really a sacred role that we've taken away from them.

00:10:48.000 That said, in this struggle, it is sort of all hands on deck.

00:10:51.000 So, people like yourself, people like Tara McCarthy, who I was just talking to, and others, you know, so long as there is this recognition of.

00:11:00.000 Fundamentally, the ideal is to get away from this.

00:11:02.000 I think for the time being, if people want to contribute and they want to write, so long as that's not their North Star, their entire being, I don't see anything totally wrong with it.

00:11:12.000 Yeah, and maybe for a lot of women, I think they can particularly be useful in fighting the culture war.

00:11:17.000 I think they can be influential there because, I mean, there are a lot more men involved in politics just because women aren't as naturally interested and they don't understand all the nuances, everything like that.

00:11:27.000 It's something I find.

00:11:29.000 It's very hard to meet right wing women. 1.00

00:11:32.000 They are there, and I think they're steadily getting more interested. 1.00

00:11:34.000 But for the most part, it is a male dominated field.

00:11:38.000 And I do think it is a good thing because, as you said, it's a very heated climate, particularly right now.

00:11:43.000 It's very dehumanizing.

00:11:44.000 It can make you, after a while, you just become desensitized to all the cruelty and hatred, and it's not a very good thing.

00:11:50.000 It's something I noticed to myself.

00:11:52.000 So I took a step back a few weeks ago.

00:11:55.000 No, months ago, sorry, because I noticed it happening to me.

00:11:58.000 I did want to talk about your experience at Charlottesville.

00:12:01.000 Personally, I know you and James were both there.

00:12:03.000 Did you receive what kind of negative backlash, if any, did you receive?

00:12:06.000 And how did that affect you just being present there?

00:12:08.000 Not necessarily even that you supported every single group that was there.

00:12:13.000 Sure.

00:12:13.000 Well, I mean, obviously, the biggest thing was I was released from Right Side Broadcasting Network right after that.

00:12:20.000 I had been doing my show with them, and they called me up.

00:12:23.000 And, you know, I give credit to them in the sense that I've caused many controversies for that network before.

00:12:29.000 And Media Matters came after us, Huffington Post went after us, and for other things.

00:12:34.000 And they stood by me basically through thick and thin.

00:12:37.000 And it just got to the point where, after so many controversies, and then Charlottesville on top of it, it got to the point where.

00:12:44.000 I wanted to go in one direction, and they essentially wanted to go in another, where they were a news channel, and I was doing commentary.

00:12:52.000 But that was probably the biggest thing getting let go from RSBN.

00:12:56.000 I'm not going to pretend like that was the worst thing in the world, though.

00:12:58.000 I mean, I launched my own independent network, and so that actually ended up being, I think, positive.

00:13:03.000 I think it was a pretty natural breaking point.

00:13:06.000 But so there was that.

00:13:08.000 I got all kinds of death threats from people from my college, from people from even my high school, from people in the community.

00:13:14.000 People reached out and threatened my family, my uncles and aunts.

00:13:18.000 My parents, a lot of my friends from middle and high school, people I had known for years, blocked me on Facebook, blocked me on Instagram, you know, whatever else.

00:13:27.000 So it was a point where I think I found out who my real friends were.

00:13:32.000 You know, I think who was really in my corner.

00:13:35.000 And I think it also showed me that there is only one path here.

00:13:39.000 There is no way where you can really, I guess, do this half heartedly.

00:13:43.000 I was going to say something else, but half heartedly go about this political revolution where if you're even present there, and I know even Faith Goldie was there covering.

00:13:53.000 And, you know, that gave her one strike with Ezra Levant at the Rebel.

00:13:57.000 And people like myself who were there and repeatedly condemned the worst elements, and we were smeared and dragged through the mud in the press as white supremacists, Nazis.

00:14:05.000 And there's just no way about it.

00:14:07.000 You have to give yourself to the fight.

00:14:09.000 So that's, I think, what I learned from that experience.

00:14:11.000 Once you come out, it's very hard to retain any kind of normal job.

00:14:11.000 Yeah.

00:14:15.000 Your friends, even if they don't agree with you politically, there are some that are tolerant and it's very nice, but for the most part, they're just not.

00:14:23.000 So I definitely agree there.

00:14:24.000 Once you come out publicly under your real face and name, it's.

00:14:27.000 Kind of got to be your full time career.

00:14:30.000 And that kind of leads me to my next question.

00:14:31.000 Actually, do you have any future plans to like run for any kind of political office or like what's your ultimate goal, uh, political wise?

00:14:39.000 Well, I mean, eventually I'd like to run for office.

00:14:42.000 I think eventually the answer would be government.

00:14:44.000 But for right now, what I've been telling people on my show is we have to really focus on laying down the groundwork right now, building up the institutions and the infrastructure so that in 20 or 30 years we could win elections.

00:14:56.000 And people, I think, on the alt right and sort of on the fringe right, They have these fantastical ideas that there's going to be secession or, you know, there's going to be a violent revolution.

00:15:06.000 Until we can match the might of the U.S. military, we have to win elections.

00:15:11.000 And so, right now, I'm really focused on, through media, through outreach, and other things, trying to get people to build this electorate that we're going to need, which is conscious of white identity, but also beyond that, is conscious of civic virtue, is conscious of moral virtue. 0.78

00:15:27.000 I mean, we have to get people going to church again, people to be sexually virtuous again, and everything else. 0.69

00:15:33.000 And Then maybe in 30 years, there will be room for nationalist, explicitly white identitarian candidates to be put up and really restore our country. 0.60

00:15:42.000 But until we get the people great again, I don't think you get the country great again. 0.87

00:15:46.000 I absolutely 100% agree with this.

00:15:48.000 If you change people on the inside, all these problems we see manifesting now are going to obviously go away and change.

00:15:54.000 Like, for example, abortion.

00:15:55.000 If people change from within, no one's going to even want it.

00:15:59.000 But if you just make it illegal, then the next person who comes along that is in favor of it, that has influence, They're going to just switch it back, or people will do it illegally, or whatever.

00:16:07.000 So, we do that's a very important thing.

00:16:09.000 So, what cultural shifts do you think, the main ones, do you think that we need to move towards a better society?

00:16:14.000 It all revolves fundamentally, I think, around the family.

00:16:17.000 I think that's the biggest thing.

00:16:18.000 And basically, everything, as I've been on this really intellectual, like philosophical odyssey, a journey after college and after the election, was basically seeing everything through the lens, through the prism of the family, which is to say that even yesterday, you know, you imagine feminism as sort of like this is an ancillary issue that affects college kids and the dating scene and all of that.

00:16:43.000 This is not really relevant to the big questions.

00:16:45.000 But if you think about what dating means, if you think about what feminism means, it means that you won't have families. 1.00

00:16:52.000 You won't have functional families that are bearing fruitful marriages and fruitful households with good, virtuous children.

00:16:59.000 And so, I mean, that's a big part of it, is simply getting men and women to come together again and respect each other and to understand each other's separate roles.

00:17:08.000 I think that's a big part of it.

00:17:09.000 I think religion, nation is a big part of it.

00:17:13.000 The drug epidemic, the drug abuse epidemic in the country, the suicide epidemic, this all stems from a lack of meaning in people's lives where they're just sort of hurtling through their lives, going from school to college to full time job to retirement, and there's no end goal.

00:17:30.000 There's nothing beyond the temporal, I think, that gives them satisfaction and fulfillment.

00:17:36.000 So, certainly, it's this existential component, it's the social between the sexes component, and then, of course, there's the economics, making it conducive to.

00:17:45.000 So that people can have comfortable lives with big families.

00:17:48.000 And so once you align all the stars, once you align all of that, I think that will produce a social movement that will, I think it'll give birth to a great nation again.

00:17:57.000 And so those are probably the three main things I'm focusing on right now.

00:18:01.000 Absolutely.

00:18:03.000 They're breaking down all the forms of communities, even a family unit being a community or the nation being cohesive.

00:18:09.000 But now you have all these different factions that believe different things.

00:18:13.000 You have communism growing.

00:18:15.000 It's very divided. 0.92

00:18:17.000 My next question for you is regarding feminism. 1.00

00:18:17.000 So. 1.00

00:18:20.000 How you said it actually, you know, a lot of people kind of write it off and laugh at it now.

00:18:23.000 It's a dead horse. 1.00

00:18:24.000 But we obviously need to rebuild the bridges that feminism has burnt.

00:18:29.000 But you see so many men that aren't even willing anymore. 0.66

00:18:31.000 You know, you have factions like MGTOW communities growing, thousands upon thousands of people.

00:18:36.000 What, in your opinion, is the best way to bring men and women back together?

00:18:41.000 It's a difficult question, but. 0.99

00:18:44.000 Well, it's funny you ask that because, you know, if the women become. 0.99

00:18:49.000 Strong again. 0.95

00:18:50.000 If the women be, or rather the opposite, if the women become pleasant and modest again and everything else, the men will come. 0.86

00:18:56.000 You know, believe me, the problem is definitely not like men not lusting after women or wanting to engage with women. 0.60

00:19:03.000 I think it's just a matter of if you get women back to the position of they want someone that provides for them rather than they want like this ever increasing sexual stimulation from novel partners, I think it'll be a self solving problem because you have to recognize that these forces we're talking about.

00:19:22.000 Whether it's tradition, the sexes, everything else. 0.72

00:19:25.000 I mean, this is intuitive to man.

00:19:27.000 This is instinctual to man.

00:19:29.000 It's like gravity.

00:19:30.000 And we just have to give it a little bit of a push.

00:19:33.000 And I think for the most part, it'll take care of itself.

00:19:35.000 And, you know, that said, it's far easier to destroy something that's been built up than to create it again.

00:19:42.000 But these things are so, I think, deeply embedded inside of us that once we get moving in the right trajectory, you'll have this element of momentum where more and more people will see the effects of it, the positivity.

00:19:53.000 And eventually we'll get there.

00:19:54.000 But it's something as simple as, you know, getting off of Tinder, you know, people waiting until marriage to have sex, getting off of all the dating apps and getting rid of all of the rest and just starting to see each other as men and women again and everything that that entails.

00:20:09.000 I don't know if you're aware of who Fulton Sheen is, but he actually, yeah, he's wonderful. 0.73

00:20:14.000 He said something about women that I think is very true that societies can be defined by the level of their women in the sense that a very good woman makes a man want to be better in order to deserve her, whereas a woman who has no standards at all doesn't incentivize a man in any way to try and be better.

00:20:31.000 I think there is a lot of truth there. 0.95

00:20:33.000 And the level of women in our society has just fallen so far, but then again, they've been attacking women for decades, trying to get them to this spot. 1.00

00:20:43.000 So they're succeeding. 1.00

00:20:44.000 But it's a good thing that we recognize it now.

00:20:46.000 You know, I think that the fact that we've seen how ugly their side is makes a lot of people retreat back into more tradition.

00:20:52.000 I think that's why we're seeing this kind of resurgence.

00:20:54.000 I never thought I'd see it.

00:20:56.000 That's for sure.

00:20:57.000 I was always made fun of for wanting these things.

00:21:00.000 Well, yeah, Fulton Sheen's great.

00:21:02.000 He's brilliant and nail on the head right there.

00:21:05.000 So I'm curious about your opinion on Antifa.

00:21:05.000 Absolutely.

00:21:07.000 Do you think that time is wasted talking about them, or do you think they are as big of a threat as a lot of people present them as?

00:21:15.000 You know, Antifa is one of the things that really pushed me very far to the right.

00:21:20.000 You know, when I was in Boston and I went the eve of the inauguration, there was a massive protest at night, and you get a totally different crowd at night than you do in the day.

00:21:30.000 And there were maybe 100 Antifa, which sounds like an exaggeration, but probably 100 black masks, black hoodies, and jeans, and flags, and everything else.

00:21:39.000 And I saw the violence, the anarchy, the chaos, and I thought, this cannot go on any longer.

00:21:46.000 You know, we need someone like J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI.

00:21:49.000 Or in the CIA to crush these people.

00:21:51.000 And, you know, I don't even know if they're like a huge threat more broadly, but it is what they represent, which is that they are the foot soldiers of the establishment.

00:22:00.000 They are the foot soldiers of the neoliberal order that, in this normalization of political violence, they will only increase, I think, the amount of energy, the amount of chaos until there is a point where we can't control it anymore.

00:22:14.000 And so I thought that at Berkeley, they had a really good handle on it with the Ben Shapiro event, where when they imposed the no mask rule, Antifa goes away.

00:22:22.000 They're not there.

00:22:23.000 Or if they are, they get arrested.

00:22:24.000 So I think that's a good way to combat them.

00:22:26.000 But I definitely don't think it's a waste of time talking about them because it just goes to show the fact that you can talk about free speech, you can talk about how you condemn political violence, and every day of the week, the mainstream media turns a blind eye to it on the left.

00:22:41.000 And so I think they're really a touchstone about this debate in the country.

00:22:45.000 And I really appreciate when people running for political office, like Paul Nealon, discusses Antifa and presents them as an actual problem.

00:22:52.000 They're not afraid to take that by the horns, whereas Paul Ryan or something won't even denounce them.

00:22:58.000 But Hoover, you mentioned he was brutal.

00:23:00.000 Have you read Masters of Deceit?

00:23:02.000 I'm sure.

00:23:02.000 No, I have not.

00:23:03.000 Okay, he wrote this book.

00:23:04.000 Maybe you should read it.

00:23:05.000 It gives a good insight into his mind.

00:23:08.000 I wanted to actually give you an opportunity to talk about both of your podcasts.

00:23:12.000 Well, the America First show and then Nationalist Review, what kind of stuff, if you could pitch them, do you like to cover?

00:23:17.000 And what are your objectives with each show?

00:23:20.000 Sure.

00:23:20.000 So America First is Monday through Friday at 7 p.m. Central on my channel on YouTube.

00:23:26.000 And it's about an hour.

00:23:27.000 Usually, we do 45 minutes of news stories, commentary, personal stories of how it's going on in my life.

00:23:33.000 And then we take questions in the last 15 minutes.

00:23:36.000 And the objective of that show was really I mean, it initially started out mostly as practice for me to focus on my delivery and focus on delivering the facts in an efficient, entertaining way.

00:23:48.000 But as it's evolved, as we've entered the third season of it, because we were on RSPN in the spring, we were on again in the summer, and then I started it independently, the mission of the show has evolved really to pitch the news from an America first perspective and to take all the news of the day, the current events, and step outside of this left right sort of a thing, which is so, I think, facile and asinine,

00:24:14.000 and enter into a real paradigm that matters, which is how are we going to take what we see in the news.

00:24:19.000 And put it into context of what's been going on over the past 50 years.

00:24:23.000 Put it into the context of what is the real problem?

00:24:26.000 Who are the real people culpable for what's been going on in the country?

00:24:31.000 And so we take a lot of the news and we go, I think, really into depth on it in a way that like Crowder and Ben Shapiro don't.

00:24:38.000 And then Nationalist Review, that's every Saturday, me and James Alsup.

00:24:42.000 That's two hours on Spreaker.

00:24:44.000 And that one is really more fun, more loose.

00:24:46.000 You'll hear me cuss more often on that show. 0.99

00:24:49.000 Kind of a boys' club.

00:24:51.000 And it's fun for that one just to, I think, for me and James Alsop, who are a little bit edgier, more farther to the right, to give a little bit of a white pill where we talk about the issues, but it's fun and we show people that we're just a couple of guys.

00:25:05.000 We're not these Nazi villains.

00:25:06.000 We're just having fun, having some laughs in a pretty unconventional way.

00:25:12.000 So, both good shows and a lot of fun to do.

00:25:15.000 Great.

00:25:15.000 And you also sometimes have guests on America First, right?

00:25:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:18.000 Yeah.

00:25:19.000 That includes as well.

00:25:20.000 So, I'll put links.

00:25:20.000 Okay, cool.

00:25:21.000 To both of those below.

00:25:22.000 I have a lot of people in my comments sometimes when I interview people who are from Europe or when I go over there and do reporting.

00:25:28.000 They say that there's no hope for Europe.

00:25:30.000 It's already defeated.

00:25:31.000 You should just quit now.

00:25:32.000 What's your opinion on this kind of defeatist attitude?

00:25:34.000 Do you think Europe does have a shot, especially with growing movements such as Generation Identity that are very patriotic?

00:25:41.000 Or do you think that.

00:25:43.000 Would you agree with these people who have defeatist attitudes?

00:25:47.000 I definitely think it's possible for the Europeans.

00:25:49.000 I believe in the will of the European people.

00:25:53.000 And to sort of.

00:25:54.000 Paraphrase Oswald Mosley, who, you know, again, some not so great connotations, but he said, you know, never before have we faced greater glory or greater defeat in terms of this opportunity before us.

00:26:05.000 And I think it's the time to prove the strength and the will and the spirit of the European people in times of tragedy, in times of chaos, in times of disorder.

00:26:15.000 And you see, even maybe 500 years ago, where the Ottomans or the Muslim Empire had control of Spain and they were going into France and onto the mainland of Italy and up through to Vienna in 1529 and then in 1683.

00:26:30.000 I think you definitely have seen this sort of thing before and certainly not of the same nature, whereas before it was invading armies and different states and now it's within and without at the same time.

00:26:41.000 People inside the country and inside the decision making institutions, it's definitely a more complicated, more difficult situation.

00:26:49.000 That said, I believe in our people.

00:26:52.000 And that goes to, I think, a lot of what we say about our people, but that.

00:26:56.000 When people talk about the issues, I don't know if they believe.

00:26:59.000 I don't know if they believe and have faith in the same way as though they talk about their people.

00:27:03.000 Where, you know, Richard Spencer and some of these other characters go out and talk about how we landed on the moon, we did all these great things, we created all these great things.

00:27:13.000 But then I think they lose faith when they see what we're up against.

00:27:17.000 And I think that's sort of counterintuitive as to how we speak of our people, where we can accomplish what has never been done.

00:27:23.000 We can recover from something we thought impossible.

00:27:26.000 And I have a lot of faith in my people over in Europe.

00:27:29.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:27:30.000 I mean, it's not like everyone's been defeated and there's no one left standing.

00:27:33.000 So I don't understand the defeatist attitude either.

00:27:36.000 So, how are you so educated politically?

00:27:39.000 Do you credit that to your education at school or do you do it all on your own?

00:27:44.000 Or maybe your family?

00:27:45.000 Because my father, this is why I'm interested in politics, because he talks about it so much.

00:27:49.000 So I kind of grew up with it.

00:27:50.000 But where did yours come from?

00:27:51.000 Because you are very knowledgeable.

00:27:54.000 Sure.

00:27:54.000 Well, I am sort of an autodidact.

00:27:56.000 It wasn't really from my parents, or certainly not from school.

00:27:59.000 If anything, school probably discouraged me from doing the reading that I do.

00:28:03.000 But no, it's been mostly a journey by myself where I started probably in middle school just asking questions.

00:28:11.000 I was always a very curious person in terms of I'd hear a word I didn't understand and I'd want to know.

00:28:16.000 I'd hear about a country I'd never heard of and I'd just be interested in.

00:28:19.000 Like, you know, wow, what's going on in the world?

00:28:21.000 What are the people like there?

00:28:22.000 What's the system?

00:28:23.000 What is the history?

00:28:24.000 And so it's been sort of this mission of mine where I'm always collecting books.

00:28:29.000 I'm always reading things.

00:28:30.000 I'm always watching videos.

00:28:31.000 People ask me all the time, you know, what do you do when you're not doing this?

00:28:35.000 And I'm sort of like, what do you mean?

00:28:37.000 You know, why would you want a diversion from this?

00:28:39.000 This is the most interesting.

00:28:41.000 Why would you want to sit and watch the sports game or get drunk?

00:28:44.000 I mean, to me, that's the chore, not reading about things that have happened and great stories and great heroes.

00:28:50.000 So.

00:28:51.000 It's really been mostly on my own.

00:28:52.000 It's been a self discovery, I would say.

00:28:56.000 Yeah, reality is more interesting nowadays.

00:28:56.000 Very cool.

00:28:59.000 It's hard for me even to watch a movie.

00:29:00.000 I get bored after like five minutes, and then you want to know what's going on.

00:29:03.000 It's so much more interesting.

00:29:05.000 So, who are your favorite political commentators?

00:29:07.000 Who would you recommend to people that are the most educational and have the best opinions on what's going on?

00:29:14.000 The best person that I recommend to anybody that you can read is Pat Buchanan.

00:29:14.000 Sure.

00:29:18.000 And I say that because, oh, I mean, he's the best.

00:29:21.000 You can't top him.

00:29:22.000 You read his.

00:29:23.000 Like, I was reading Death of the West when I first started reading, and I was in like Boston.

00:29:29.000 I was in Boston in the fall of last year, and I usually keep like a notepad of like allusions or things to look up if I want to Google them later.

00:29:37.000 And I'm in like 10 pages to Pat Buchanan, and I've already filled up the whole page with allusions and book references.

00:29:44.000 I mean, you could read a Pat Buchanan book, and you have like 10 pages of a reading list.

00:29:49.000 I mean, all the different books he's referenced, all the different anecdotes or stories or poems or anything like that.

00:29:54.000 I mean, there's.

00:29:55.000 Pat Buchanan's opinions, which in themselves, I think his historical knowledge, his political knowledge, is unsurpassed by really any commentator today.

00:30:04.000 But then on top of that, I mean, all the other materials that he references, I mean, it's invaluable.

00:30:11.000 And it's funny to me because you see someone like Ben Shapiro, who he spent his whole career calling Pat Buchanan a racist and an anti Semite and trying to take him down.

00:30:20.000 And you read Ben Shapiro and it's short snippets, it's very vapid, it's very kind of empty popcorn sort of stuff.

00:30:27.000 And then you read Pat Buchanan and say what you will about the prejudices, but it's deep.

00:30:32.000 It's like a song.

00:30:33.000 It's like a symphony, the way he writes and what he references.

00:30:36.000 So, I mean, he's probably the top one to recommend.

00:30:39.000 But, yeah, go ahead.

00:30:40.000 Great.

00:30:40.000 No, I was just going to say, if I remember correctly, he's Catholic as well, right?

00:30:43.000 Pat Buchanan.

00:30:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:45.000 I thought he was.

00:30:46.000 Yeah.

00:30:46.000 So, yeah.

00:30:47.000 Well, you know, what can we say?

00:30:49.000 Catholics are the best.

00:30:50.000 Yeah.

00:30:51.000 Right, right.

00:30:52.000 So, for my last question, I like to ask a lot of people this, but opinions vary on it.

00:30:55.000 Do you think that the end of the.

00:30:57.000 Mainstream media reign is coming to a close.

00:31:01.000 Do you think they have just as much influence, or do you think that alternative media is really giving them a run for their money, such as Breitbart?

00:31:07.000 And a lot of people are losing faith in their power structure.

00:31:12.000 Well, I think you'll always have the mainstream media.

00:31:12.000 Sure.

00:31:14.000 People have, again, they have these fantasies of like New York's Time takes down their big sign and they close their offices.

00:31:22.000 I don't know if that'll ever happen, just given the sheer amount of resources that are at their disposal.

00:31:27.000 I think people really underestimate that these are billion dollar industries in terms of.

00:31:32.000 The equipment, the infrastructure, the payroll, and everything else.

00:31:35.000 So, I mean, we'll see that for quite some time.

00:31:38.000 That said, you look at Fox News as a case study where they've had to let go almost all of their talent from Megyn Kelly to Bill O'Reilly to even like Stossel and Greta Van Sustren and who was the last one to just leave?

00:31:52.000 Eric Bolling and Bob Beckel and so many of them have just had to go.

00:31:56.000 And I think it illustrates the strength of the alternative media, which is that we don't have to play by the same rules.

00:32:02.000 We don't have the same business structure that they do where if someone says something a little bit that's not PC advertisers are out, they lose all their revenue.

00:32:11.000 So I definitely think that the alternative media, you're seeing their strengths being played to by the current political climate where people are looking for something that's more authentic, more genuine, more by the people, for the people, populist, grassroots stuff.

00:32:26.000 And so I think that's definitely coming at the expense of the mainstream.

00:32:29.000 But you'll always have both.

00:32:31.000 I just think that the alternative is now rising up, and I think it'll really be ascendant in the next five years.

00:32:37.000 Maybe I wasn't really aware of it before, but I feel like they lost most of their credibility during the election.

00:32:43.000 And they had incredible.

00:32:45.000 Power.

00:32:46.000 A lot of people didn't question them as they do now, but through the election, Trump played them like a fiddle.

00:32:52.000 It was amazing to watch.

00:32:54.000 But I do agree that they still have a lot of power.

00:32:57.000 And they can make everyone, people like you and James Alsop, and they've done it to me as well.

00:33:02.000 Like after Charlottesville, for example, you have no control over what they say about you.

00:33:06.000 And they can even lie.

00:33:07.000 Like, for example, you say, they'll say, you're alt right.

00:33:10.000 You'll be like, well, I'm actually not alt right.

00:33:12.000 And they'll be like, but we see you as alt right.

00:33:14.000 And it's like, haha.

00:33:17.000 You can't really, yeah.

00:33:18.000 So I don't even worry about it.

00:33:20.000 I just ignore it.

00:33:21.000 But they do have a lot for anyone who's not really aware of the political, what's really going on in politics, they'll just believe it.

00:33:28.000 But I guess it doesn't really matter.

00:33:29.000 So I've come to the end of my questions, but it's been wonderful having you, Nick.

00:33:32.000 I really appreciate your time.

00:33:33.000 Where's the best place for people to find you online?

00:33:36.000 Sure.

00:33:36.000 So people can find me.

00:33:38.000 Probably the best place would be Twitter at NickJFuentes.

00:33:41.000 And then, of course, my YouTube is NicholasJFuentes.

00:33:43.000 Awesome.

00:33:44.000 Cool.

00:33:44.000 I will link those below.

00:33:45.000 Thank you so much to everyone for watching.

00:33:47.000 I really hope you enjoyed.

00:33:48.000 And thank you once again, Nick.

00:33:49.000 It's been a pleasure.

00:33:50.000 Thanks for having me.

00:33:51.000 It's been a blast.

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - October 01, 2017

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