America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Candace Owens DESTROYS "Unholy Rabbi" Barclay

00:00:00.000 The tears come down like waterfalls If I don't care for one at all

00:00:30.000 It's okay, it's alright, it's fine if you say we're friends.

00:00:39.000 It's okay, it's alright, we're fine, it's just not the end.

00:00:45.000 Lay me down where I can sleep.

00:00:47.000 Hold me close, don't say a thing.

00:00:52.000 It's okay, it's alright, we're fine, no one has been killed.

00:01:00.000 Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine, it's safe, they're friends too.

00:01:17.000 Showroom, showroom Showroom, showroom Showroom, showroom Showroom, showroom

00:01:32.000 We're good to go.

00:04:38.000 I don't know.

00:08:19.000 It's about love

00:08:49.000 I love it when you throw me out and tell me how it's always got to money.

00:08:56.000 That's my only inspiration.

00:08:59.000 Now when I get out and figure out that I can live casually, I just fall in desperation. 0.90

00:09:06.000 I've been waiting in the same damn place all my life. 0.96

00:09:14.000 Trouble's the answer. 0.98

00:10:26.000 We're good.

00:11:37.000 I don't know.

00:12:29.000 We're good to go.

00:14:15.000 We're good to go.

00:14:50.000 We're good to go.

00:15:27.000 Hey, what's going on everybody?

00:15:38.000 It's me, Nick Fuentes, back here with an afternoon RumbleStream.

00:15:45.000 Evening RumbleStream.

00:15:48.000 What's up?

00:15:50.000 We're gonna check the live chat.

00:15:52.000 Pop in the live chat, say what's up.

00:15:55.000 We'll see who's all here.

00:15:56.000 We got... FishDroiper.

00:16:01.000 We got... WallStreetRetard. 1.00

00:16:06.000 Oh, hey buddy.

00:16:07.000 What's up?

00:16:09.000 We got YikesDepartment, KebabRemover, PooVibe. 0.95

00:16:13.000 What's up, PooVibe?

00:16:14.000 I haven't heard from him in a minute.

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00:16:19.000 What's up everybody?

00:16:21.000 Spexo, hey!

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00:16:28.000 Kruiper Burger.

00:16:33.000 Welcome, welcome to the stream.

00:16:45.000 I'm a little bit sick, I'm under the weather.

00:16:49.000 But we're gonna do a stream anyway.

00:16:55.000 So we're locked in.

00:16:57.000 We're gonna be watching this Candace Owens interview with a rabbi where Candace Owens has just been on a tear lately. 0.91

00:17:05.000 She has been in a full-fledged war against the Jews.

00:17:09.000 And specifically some of these Zionist rabbis.

00:17:14.000 And I've been watching

00:17:16.000 Her evolution.

00:17:18.000 It's been remarkable to witness.

00:17:20.000 I covered it on my show last week.

00:17:24.000 So we'll be watching this debate.

00:17:25.000 We'll watch a little Star Wars.

00:17:27.000 New Star Wars trailer. 1.00

00:17:29.000 It's total fucking AIDS. 1.00

00:17:31.000 We can have nothing. 1.00

00:17:32.000 You will own nothing.

00:17:34.000 You will be happy.

00:17:35.000 Well, I'm not happy.

00:17:39.000 So we'll watch the Star Wars trailer.

00:17:41.000 We'll play a little Call of War.

00:17:44.000 And if anything else comes up, you know, maybe we'll watch something else, but that's probably gonna be our main content.

00:17:51.000 Before we get into it, smash the follow button here on Rumble, and I'm gonna put out a update on Telegram, just so people know that I'm live.

00:18:08.000 Apparently people don't like the music.

00:18:10.000 There were a lot of people bitching about the music in the live chat during the lobby. 1.00

00:18:16.000 I'm just over it. 1.00

00:18:17.000 The Rumble live chat, fuck off, okay? 1.00

00:18:21.000 Every video I make, the Rumble comments, it's, Nick hates poor people, he's arrogant, and shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:18:30.000 Shut the fuck up, and fuck off. 1.00

00:18:32.000 Go watch some other content. 1.00

00:18:34.000 I'm so sick of you people, I can't stand it.

00:18:37.000 Every, look, it's like every video, I'll go on my channel,

00:18:44.000 Uh, every video... that I do... I got people in the comments... Jesus was poor.

00:18:55.000 In Nick's eyes, if you're not seven figures, you're poor normie trash. 1.00

00:18:59.000 And Nick would have looked down on Jesus, called him dumb, low IQ, retard who should kill himself. 1.00

00:19:04.000 Just really let that sink in. 1.00

00:19:06.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:19:08.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:19:10.000 Don't watch it. 1.00

00:19:11.000 If you don't like it, don't watch it.

00:19:15.000 Arrogance and hatred for his fellow man will be Nick's downfall.

00:19:18.000 No, you! 1.00

00:19:19.000 You will be my downfall! 0.94

00:19:22.000 Opposite!

00:19:24.000 Opposite!

00:19:25.000 You will be the downfall!

00:19:27.000 Complete opposite.

00:19:29.000 No, you know what's been my downfall? 0.97

00:19:31.000 Jews censoring me. 0.91

00:19:34.000 Okay? 0.99

00:19:35.000 Arrogance and hatred for my fellow man propel me forward.

00:19:39.000 That's the only thing that keeps me getting out of bed.

00:19:43.000 If it wasn't for arrogance and my hatred of you, I would be in bed all day. 1.00

00:19:49.000 It's the Jews that are keeping me down. 1.00

00:19:53.000 IBF super mutant shitting on normies gets super old. 1.00

00:19:57.000 That's what makes me better. 1.00

00:19:58.000 High mutational load, it's why I'm high IQ.

00:20:05.000 You said it, super mutant, that's exactly right. 1.00

00:20:09.000 And you are normie trash, anyway. 0.99

00:20:13.000 So, yeah, so I see somebody is telling me, oh, your live chat is revolting against the music. 0.99

00:20:20.000 Somebody called it hip-hop?

00:20:22.000 I'm like, it's not even hip-hop. 1.00

00:20:25.000 It's alternative, you know, but you fucking idiots would want me to play Journey or something. 0.99

00:20:31.000 All these over 45 people watching this stream, they want to hear Journey. 1.00

00:20:36.000 They want to hear Bon Jovi.

00:20:39.000 They want to hear the same Boston album.

00:20:45.000 I'm sick of it. 0.69

00:20:47.000 You make me sick. 0.99

00:20:49.000 You make me sick. 0.99

00:20:52.000 That's why I'm sick. 0.97

00:20:58.000 This one.

00:21:00.000 The regular, I hate ear type rhetoric is exhausting.

00:21:04.000 It ruins otherwise great content. 0.96

00:21:07.000 Goes against your message to get down in the mud and act trashy.

00:21:11.000 You might say it's a joke, but I don't find acting like a bad person funny.

00:21:19.000 I don't find acting like a bad person funny.

00:21:23.000 Be tactful. 1.00

00:21:24.000 Own and embarrass idiots in a tasteful way with class. 1.00

00:21:28.000 Class is for men. 1.00

00:21:29.000 Swag is for boys. 0.94

00:21:32.000 Swag is for boys. 0.94

00:21:34.000 Class is for men. 0.94

00:21:35.000 You have to own them with class in a tasteful way.

00:21:40.000 That doesn't mean you have to be a G-rated prude.

00:21:42.000 I don't think extremes in either direction is good. 1.00

00:21:46.000 Shut the fuck up and fuck off. 1.00

00:21:49.000 Faggot. 1.00

00:21:50.000 I hate all of you. 1.00

00:21:52.000 It's not a joke. 0.99

00:21:53.000 It's not a joke.

00:21:54.000 Who said it was a- you may say it's joking, whoever said it was a joke.

00:21:59.000 I can barely contain it.

00:22:01.000 I can barely contain my true feeling about you.

00:22:04.000 My true animosity and hatred.

00:22:08.000 Utter disdain.

00:22:09.000 I wouldn't describe it any other way other than pure contempt and utter disdain.

00:22:14.000 Distilled hatred and it's not a joke.

00:22:17.000 It's completely serious and I could barely hold it in So anyway So that's that so I just had to address that right at the outset We're gonna dive in the first thing.

00:22:33.000 I want to watch is this Star Wars trailer.

00:22:36.000 I Don't know if you've seen this this just came out

00:22:41.000 So I want to react to this.

00:22:42.000 I know a lot of you guys are, oh, I don't watch Star Wars or Disney, but this stuff is important to me.

00:22:51.000 So I guess they came out, Disney has come out with a new show this June.

00:22:55.000 It's coming out on Disney Plus, Star Wars show.

00:23:00.000 It's set a hundred years before the Phantom Menace.

00:23:03.000 And I saw the trailer earlier today and it's all girls. 0.98

00:23:08.000 The whole thing is girls and blacks. 1.00

00:23:12.000 And, um, so we'll watch and react to it.

00:23:16.000 Look at this.

00:23:17.000 It's just like a bad joke.

00:23:20.000 Really? 0.99

00:23:23.000 May the force be with you, nigga. 1.00

00:23:26.000 I'm so- I just can't even anymore. 0.97

00:23:30.000 Can we just not, though?

00:23:35.000 Look at this.

00:23:35.000 Everything's Dreads and there's one other character.

00:23:39.000 It's so classic.

00:23:41.000 Some like black. 0.97

00:23:42.000 Yeah, look at this.

00:23:43.000 Seriously? 0.98

00:23:45.000 Can we just fucking stop with this? 0.96

00:23:51.000 These are the characters. 0.99

00:23:57.000 That just depresses me.

00:24:05.000 I wonder who even... Well, we'll watch a trailer and then we'll...

00:24:09.000 We'll do a deep dive.

00:24:10.000 We'll see what's going on here.

00:24:11.000 Who wrote this? 0.99

00:24:12.000 Who wrote this trash? 1.00

00:24:16.000 Your eyes can deceive you. 1.00

00:24:24.000 We must not trust them.

00:24:29.000 Look at this.

00:24:30.000 Even this, look.

00:24:32.000 Trust them.

00:24:36.000 Look at this.

00:24:38.000 Even this planet. 0.97

00:24:38.000 Black. 0.97

00:24:39.000 Black. 0.98

00:24:40.000 Black. 0.93

00:24:41.000 Asian.

00:24:43.000 There's not one white guy in the whole group.

00:24:46.000 Look at this.

00:24:49.000 Where's the white guys?

00:25:07.000 Alien, Asian guy, white girl, black girl, alien. 0.93

00:25:14.000 Where's the white guys?

00:25:15.000 Where's the white Jedi? 0.95

00:25:20.000 I'm so si- Every- You know, Keith Woods kind of had a point about this.

00:25:24.000 That the whole Dune II movie was just like Zendaya, like, brooding.

00:25:29.000 Staring off at the desert. 1.00

00:25:31.000 I feel like every movie now is just like a dumb bitch making a face. 1.00

00:25:35.000 Just like... 1.00

00:25:44.000 I've had it, man. 0.99

00:25:46.000 You got a black girl fighting a white girl. 0.99

00:25:54.000 Dude. 1.00

00:26:07.000 Someone is killing Jedi.

00:26:09.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:26:11.000 Oh, dude, it's the weekend?

00:26:13.000 Come on, dude.

00:26:16.000 I hate everything.

00:26:20.000 This is what they've taken from us.

00:26:23.000 How is this even serious?

00:26:24.000 What's with the hair?

00:26:25.000 This is Star Wars.

00:26:28.000 And this is, uh, nigged up with earrings and the... whatever the hairstyle that is. 1.00

00:26:37.000 What happened?

00:26:38.000 I sensed the darkness.

00:26:54.000 This isn't about- No, duh.

00:26:56.000 Look at this.

00:26:59.000 Seriously?

00:27:00.000 This isn't about good or bad.

00:27:05.000 This is about power.

00:27:07.000 Look at her hair. 0.62

00:27:08.000 Imagine the smell.

00:27:14.000 And who was allowed to use it?

00:27:18.000 What is that? 0.99

00:27:38.000 I'm gonna watch it, but it's gonna suck. 0.98

00:27:41.000 Why? 0.99

00:27:42.000 Why does it have to be this way?

00:27:48.000 All the comments are terrible.

00:27:51.000 Let's see, I think it's a woman that wrote it.

00:27:55.000 Yeah, look at this.

00:27:56.000 This is the cast.

00:27:59.000 Daphne Keene, Amandla, Amandla Stenberg.

00:28:04.000 Amandla!

00:28:07.000 Amandla.

00:28:08.000 Is that a real name?

00:28:09.000 Lee... Is this guy from, um... Squid Games?

00:28:16.000 There's literally one white guy in the whole cast.

00:28:20.000 Or two, I guess.

00:28:23.000 I'll see.

00:28:24.000 Acolyte is an upcoming American television series created by Leslie Headland. 0.64

00:28:29.000 Oh, brother.

00:28:32.000 It's so over.

00:28:34.000 We're cooked.

00:28:35.000 Is she a Jew?

00:28:38.000 Suburban Maryland.

00:28:40.000 Harvey Weinstein's personal assistant?

00:28:43.000 Nice.

00:28:50.000 What else has she done?

00:28:56.000 Nothing notable, looks like.

00:29:02.000 Notable works.

00:29:02.000 The Bachelorette.

00:29:04.000 Oh my gosh.

00:29:06.000 So she wrote for The Bachelorette.

00:29:10.000 And Russian Doll, what's that? 1.00

00:29:11.000 Looks dumb. 0.99

00:29:16.000 And now she's doing Star Wars. 0.99

00:29:21.000 Amanda Stenberg and Lee Jung Jae star in the leading roles.

00:29:27.000 Set at the end of the High Republic era in a world of shadowy secrets, emerging dark side powers.

00:29:33.000 Set a hundred years before Phantom Menace.

00:29:35.000 See, that's what everybody wants.

00:29:37.000 Everybody wants to see the High Republic.

00:29:41.000 Everybody wants to see the prequel to the prequel.

00:29:44.000 They want to see before Phantom Menace.

00:29:47.000 We finally get it. 0.93

00:29:48.000 And it's a bunch of nigs and Asians and all this goofy stuff. 1.00

00:30:04.000 Very sad. 0.98

00:30:23.000 Let's see.

00:30:23.000 Hedlund assembled the writer's room for the series by June 2021 with the group each having different relationships with the franchise

00:30:33.000 Blah blah blah.

00:30:34.000 In May 2022, she said writing for the series was complete.

00:30:37.000 She said the female-centric series would have a female protagonist, but would not exclude male characters or audiences.

00:30:45.000 Great.

00:30:47.000 She also explained the series would be introducing new characters in canon, but she understood not all fans would like it. 0.97

00:31:00.000 This sucks. 0.54

00:31:05.000 Just why? 0.99

00:31:06.000 Why?

00:31:06.000 Why would they do this?

00:31:08.000 Why would they do this to us?

00:31:13.000 It's so unfair.

00:31:17.000 The problem is girls don't even like Star Wars. 0.98

00:31:19.000 Why would they make it female-centric?

00:31:21.000 Girls don't even like Star Wars. 1.00

00:31:25.000 Star Wars is for boys. 0.92

00:31:27.000 I would even have less of a problem with it if it was, like, non-whites in it. 1.00

00:31:32.000 But just as long as it's guys.

00:31:34.000 Why does it have to be girls? 1.00

00:31:37.000 That just doesn't fit.

00:31:38.000 Ugh.

00:31:49.000 And it's every single one.

00:31:50.000 Every single one of these... Rey in the sequel trilogy.

00:31:56.000 Ahsoka in the Ahsoka movie.

00:32:00.000 Uh...

00:32:01.000 Baby Princess Leia in Obi-Wan.

00:32:05.000 The girl in Andor.

00:32:08.000 The girl in Rogue One.

00:32:10.000 It's like every Star Wars project, it's all girls. 1.00

00:32:13.000 It's all girls. 1.00

00:32:14.000 It's all blacks. 1.00

00:32:16.000 The goofy haircuts takes me out of it, too. 0.99

00:32:18.000 Like, what are we doing, man?

00:32:20.000 What are we doing with this?

00:32:24.000 Because I actually like Forest Whitaker.

00:32:27.000 In Rogue One, I thought he was a great character.

00:32:30.000 But this is just... Come on, man.

00:32:33.000 What are we doing with this? 1.00

00:32:35.000 Shit, too. 1.00

00:32:37.000 Looks like absolute shit. 1.00

00:32:39.000 Like, what is this? 1.00

00:32:43.000 I'm just so... Disappointed.

00:32:55.000 Whatever.

00:32:57.000 Very depressing.

00:32:59.000 Anyway, so that's the Star Wars trailer.

00:33:02.000 I don't know, I just thought I'd play that because I watched it earlier today.

00:33:05.000 Oh, and then this goofus is going to be soy-facing over at Eckhart's Ladder. 0.90

00:33:11.000 This trailer told us a lot.

00:33:16.000 There is a ton to discuss, from new characters to connections to the greater overall Star Wars universe.

00:33:22.000 I'll explain everything you need to know going into the two-episode premiere on June 4th.

00:33:29.000 This guy's like the biggest glazing.

00:33:33.000 This guy glazes Disney Star Wars more than anybody I know.

00:33:40.000 Similar, at least conceptually.

00:33:42.000 Alright, so to get the very basics out of the way, The Acolyte takes place in the High Republic era.

00:33:46.000 Do you need to read the books to watch the show?

00:33:48.000 Certainly not, but there will be some crossover, more than I expected in fact, as in this trailer we actually see the character of Vernestra Rowe.

00:33:56.000 Vernestra, who is a green-skinned Mirialan like Barriss Offee, is about 16 at the beginning of the High Republic, so we can see that she's quite a bit older here.

00:34:05.000 Anyway, the trailer starts with us being introduced to Master Sol.

00:34:09.000 According to the Star Wars databank, which was actually just updated as this trailer dropped, Master Sol is a wise, respected, powerful Jedi Master, strong in the ways of the Force, who is going through emotional conflict.

00:34:21.000 I think it's probably not then a coincidence that he's teaching his students how eyes can deceive a person.

00:34:27.000 Perhaps he himself has bore witness to something.

00:34:31.000 These like adult men that are really into Star Wars lore, you should just give it up after Disney took over.

00:34:39.000 It would be embarrassing enough if it was the George Lucas Star Wars, but if you're doing this in the era of Disney, you gotta just pack it up.

00:34:48.000 You can't be doing a close reading of Disney Star Wars.

00:34:54.000 But I don't know, probably how he makes his livelihood, so... 0.98

00:34:59.000 I guess there's nowhere for this guy to pivot to, but it's just pathetic, I think. 0.98

00:35:05.000 To be real. 1.00

00:35:05.000 I mean, because this is just like consumer trash. 1.00

00:35:08.000 This is just consumer DEI trash, and the guy's going into, hmm. 0.97

00:35:13.000 So, maybe he's saying I's deceived because... Alright, enough of that. 0.51

00:35:20.000 I can't.

00:35:21.000 I just can't take that anymore.

00:35:24.000 Sad.

00:35:24.000 Alright, well, why don't we jump in?

00:35:27.000 We're gonna... yeah, let's just forget about that.

00:35:31.000 I'm gonna watch it.

00:35:32.000 Maybe I'll review it.

00:35:33.000 But, um... I'm gonna watch this Candace Owens debate. 1.00

00:35:39.000 So, the background on this... Candace Owens has just been at war with the Jewish Mafia lately. 1.00

00:35:45.000 I kinda did a quick background on this last week.

00:35:49.000 I covered it on my show.

00:35:51.000 And the timeline's pretty long.

00:35:54.000 I guess it goes all the way back to her relationship with Ye during Ye 24, which was in November, October, excuse me, October, November, 2022.

00:36:05.000 And she, I guess, insufficiently disavowed Kanye when all that was going on, so the Jews have had beef with her ever since.

00:36:14.000 It goes back a little bit further, but that's really when the latest stuff began.

00:36:19.000 Then, during the Gaza War, when Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th, she came out and basically said she's against the Palestinians being slaughtered, but she's also against Israelis being killed.

00:36:32.000 We're good to go.

00:36:51.000 I don't know.

00:37:09.000 I forget in what context, but she basically talked about how there's this Jewish mafia that exists. 0.92

00:37:14.000 And she's been going at it with Rabbi Shmuley on Twitter, calling him filth. 0.90

00:37:18.000 And then I guess this other rabbi called her an anti-Semite.

00:37:23.000 So she invited him onto her show to debate.

00:37:27.000 And well, this is the debate.

00:37:29.000 So we're gonna watch and react to it.

00:37:31.000 I don't know if we'll watch the whole thing because it's like two hours, but...

00:37:37.000 We'll see how it goes.

00:37:38.000 I guess she did a pretty good job and the rabbi was pretty unlikable. 1.00

00:37:41.000 All right, everybody, let's jump right into this.

00:37:43.000 A very exciting episode for you today.

00:37:45.000 Here in my hands, I am holding an article that was published by PJ Media.

00:37:50.000 The title is, Let's Be Honest. 0.97

00:37:52.000 Candace Owens is a Jew-hating bigot. 1.00

00:37:55.000 It was written by a rabbi, Rabbi Michael Barclay.

00:37:59.000 So I read this article, and honestly, there are only two options here. 0.94

00:38:02.000 Either this rabbi is genuinely ignorant of everything that I have ever said, in which case I'm happy to clarify it because he will be joining us on today's episode, or the other option is he's completely aware of the things that I have said, and he is just a monster. 0.93

00:38:17.000 I'm excited to find out when we sit down here with Rabbi Barclay. 0.78

00:38:22.000 That's what we have coming up on Candace Owens. 0.98

00:38:31.000 I love it.

00:38:31.000 This is the face of total Jewish defeat.

00:38:35.000 She won.

00:38:43.000 I love that.

00:38:44.000 I love how all the Jews have to watch this show. 1.00

00:38:47.000 This is the face.

00:38:49.000 Dude.

00:38:50.000 No, no, no, no.

00:38:51.000 But this is the face of a total Jewish defeat. 0.97

00:38:54.000 We have to stand. 0.98

00:38:56.000 Go off, girly. 1.00

00:38:57.000 We fucking got your back, Candace. 1.00

00:38:59.000 Eat them up. 1.00

00:39:01.000 Eat them up! 1.00

00:39:02.000 They're filth! 0.53

00:39:06.000 It's very, it's very, uh... Striking. 0.99

00:39:11.000 Striking appearance.

00:39:13.000 I love it.

00:39:15.000 Ben Shapiro has to watch this.

00:39:16.000 This... You see a face like mine looking down!

00:39:21.000 Yeah.

00:39:31.000 We're good to go. 1.00

00:39:54.000 This is Candace Owens, bitch! 1.00

00:39:56.000 Alright guys, we're gonna jump right into this. 0.99

00:39:57.000 As I stated at the top of the show, we have Rabbi Michael Barclay.

00:40:00.000 He is, by the way, joining us really last second, so if the shot is not perfect, really appreciate him coming on such short notice.

00:40:08.000 Rabbi Michael Barclay, welcome to the show.

00:40:10.000 Thank you.

00:40:12.000 Thank you for having me, Candace.

00:40:13.000 And Candace, I really want to tell you, I've written certain things, and it gives me great optimism.

00:40:21.000 They were gracious and reached out yesterday and wanted to get together.

00:40:24.000 It actually makes me very optimistic.

00:40:26.000 Yes, so I am the ultimate defender of free speech, and I believe that we need more speech, not less of it.

00:40:32.000 When we see things and we believe them not to be true, rather than censoring that individual, we should actually give that person a platform, because people will walk away and be able to assess whether or not the statements they heard was true.

00:40:44.000 And so just to give a little bit of background to people listening to this, you appeared on Charlie Kirk's show, and you referred to me as anti-Semitic.

00:40:53.000 Is that correct?

00:40:55.000 Not only that, Candice, I've actually written a couple of articles, one in November and one last week.

00:41:01.000 About your anti-Semitism, yeah. 1.00

00:41:02.000 Look at his stupid hat. 1.00

00:41:03.000 His stupid hat and his stupid pin. 1.00

00:41:04.000 I fucking hate him. 1.00

00:41:06.000 I think that, Shannon, 0.99

00:41:30.000 Candice, I think before that, and as I said, I'm very optimistic that you would have a dialogue about something.

00:41:36.000 I think before that, there are some real steps, which is, I have called you, and I'm not alone in this.

00:41:45.000 Many Jews have called you an anti-Semite.

00:41:47.000 I've also talked to people who say you have a really sweet heart, just so you know.

00:41:51.000 You and I have a number of mutual friends in the world.

00:41:55.000 But I think it's important to first identify

00:41:59.000 What anti-semitism is, it is a different type of hate than any other type of hate in the world.

00:42:05.000 And if you and I are speaking crossways because we have a different understanding and definition, that's not going to lead to any dialogue.

00:42:12.000 Look, I said to Scott, I'd love to walk out of here and say, you know what?

00:42:17.000 I was wrong and write an article.

00:42:18.000 I apologize.

00:42:19.000 And I was wrong.

00:42:20.000 But the first piece is to

00:42:22.000 Have a mutual and understanding of what is anti-semitism.

00:42:26.000 I think that would help a tremendous amount.

00:42:27.000 I actually totally agree with you on that.

00:42:30.000 That is a perfect place to start.

00:42:32.000 Could you provide for us a definition of anti-semitism?

00:42:37.000 Absolutely.

00:42:37.000 I really appreciate that because I think that is the break.

00:42:40.000 If we're not speaking the same language, where can we go, right?

00:42:44.000 So there's a man, a blessed memory man named Lord Jonathan,

00:42:48.000 Sacks, who was the chief rabbi of England, he had a great line.

00:42:51.000 He really defined anti-semitism.

00:42:54.000 That anti-semitism is Jews have no right to exist collectively as Jews with the same rights as other human beings.

00:43:01.000 It's kind of a weird statement, so let's just track back to understand the history of anti-semitism.

00:43:08.000 2,000 years ago, Jews don't accept Jesus as Messiah.

00:43:12.000 For people who do not have faith, as the early Christians, as some of them have faith, some

00:43:21.000 I love how it's like, okay, what's the definition of anti-semitism?

00:43:24.000 Well, 2,000 years ago... Okay, really?

00:43:28.000 We got to go back 2,000 years?

00:43:29.000 Hmm.

00:43:50.000 accept Jesus as God and still thrive, unless he's associated with the devil.

00:43:54.000 So you start having these myths that are created of the Jew being identified with the opposite of God.

00:44:02.000 This really codifies in 1144 in Norwich, England, what's called the bloodline.

00:44:07.000 This is really important to understand, especially today in 2024.

00:44:10.000 In 1144, a young boy is killed and the local priest says, that's because the Jews need to make their matzah with Christian blood.

00:44:20.000 Both of those things are true though. 0.58

00:44:21.000 It is both true that Jews are associated with the devil and the opposite of God, and they do use Christian blood in their rituals. 0.68

00:44:31.000 Those are both things that are necessarily true.

00:44:50.000 If the only way to get to the Father is through Jesus, and the Jews rejected Jesus, then how could they be anything other than satanic? 0.97

00:45:07.000 How would that work?

00:45:08.000 How would they have access to the truth or goodness if they're disconnected with its author, which is God?

00:45:17.000 And the relationship between man and God is mediated by Jesus.

00:45:21.000 How would they have any access to it?

00:45:22.000 They can't.

00:45:24.000 They necessarily can't.

00:45:26.000 And the blood libel, it's not a libel at all.

00:45:29.000 It's just true.

00:45:30.000 There's historical documentation for it.

00:45:33.000 We can't have state tariff.

00:45:34.000 Okay?

00:45:35.000 So this gets perpetuate in combination with a fourth century of what's called the Vulgate.

00:45:41.000 I'm sorry, did you say in 1140 this happened?

00:45:43.000 1144 in Norwich Kingdom.

00:45:47.000 Okay, okay.

00:45:48.000 This is after in the 4th century you have something called the Vulgate.

00:45:51.000 The Vulgate is the official translation of the Bible.

00:45:54.000 In Hebrew, there's no vowels.

00:45:56.000 And the person who translates, St.

00:45:59.000 John who translates the Vulgate, knows what he's doing is translating wrong.

00:46:03.000 He puts down that when Moses comes down from Mount Sinai, he has horns.

00:46:06.000 Okay?

00:46:08.000 Karen.

00:46:08.000 When actually the word was Karan, meaning that light shone from his head.

00:46:12.000 So now by 1144,

00:46:14.000 You have the anti-Semitic myth of Jews have horns and they drink blood.

00:46:18.000 And I know people who've been asked when they went into the army and other places, can I see your horns?

00:46:24.000 So this still exists today in 2024 throughout America.

00:46:29.000 And I don't mean just in little rural areas.

00:46:31.000 It exists today, these myths.

00:46:33.000 That Vulgate Bible is the official Catholic Bible all the way through the 1970s.

00:46:36.000 So it is,

00:46:41.000 You need to understand that that's a piece of it.

00:46:43.000 Some of them do have horns though, by the way.

00:46:45.000 That is true.

00:46:46.000 They're equated with this kind of hate.

00:46:51.000 Because it's about Jews not having the right to exist collectively, when they live in their little communities in the Middle Ages, anti-Semitism is a hate against their religion.

00:47:01.000 By the time you get to the 18th and 20th centuries, when so many Jews have assimilated, they are in culture, they are in arts, they're in science,

00:47:10.000 It's no longer against them for their religion, it's against them for their race. 0.99

00:47:15.000 Anti-Semitism is the oldest hate in the world and the hate that mutates.

00:47:22.000 In 1948, because remember it says Lord Sacks... Oh, I just want to pause it.

00:47:26.000 You said it's a hate that mutates.

00:47:31.000 So your belief then is that the definition of antisemitism can necessarily change, is that correct?

00:47:38.000 It's not just my belief, it is the commonly accepted understanding in both the Jewish and academic worlds.

00:47:43.000 Okay.

00:47:43.000 This isn't, okay, as I said, that's why I quoted, this is a quote, it's a great thing from Lord Sacks, you know, Jonathan Sacks, it's a great thing from Nialecatus, this is just accepted as

00:47:58.000 I would just say off the bat, I do not accept that definitions can just mutate.

00:48:03.000 That is something that I could debate that on.

00:48:06.000 The definition of a woman, I mean, and I'm saying not just about Jewish people, I think that we have to have a concrete definition to work with because then you can just update and say actually I've changed that and now this is what constitutes anti-Semitism.

00:48:17.000 But Candace, that is the horror of anti-Semitism.

00:48:20.000 So what you are saying to me is that anti-Semitism is this and does not change.

00:48:28.000 What I'm saying to you is that the entire world and scholars about anti-Semitism recognize that it is a unique hate.

00:48:40.000 That if you define it as that Jews should not be able to exist collectively,

00:48:47.000 Okay, as a collective, they just shouldn't have that right.

00:48:50.000 That changes from the Middle Ages with religion, the 18th through 20th centuries about race, and then after Israel's created, it's a hatred based on the nation. 0.66

00:49:02.000 Oh, dude! 1.00

00:49:04.000 Jews are so ridiculous. 1.00

00:49:07.000 Well, all the anti-Semite experts agree that anti-Semitism can mean whatever we need it to mean at any given time. 1.00

00:49:17.000 If it's about Israel, well, then it's about Israel. 0.79

00:49:19.000 If it's about our religion, it's about our religion. 0.98

00:49:24.000 Well, that sounds ridiculous. 0.89

00:49:25.000 Well, but that's the horror of antisemitism. 0.79

00:49:28.000 Yeah, but no other word is like that, but that's the uniqueness of... Okay, so... It's just, uh...

00:49:38.000 Completely above any kind of consistency.

00:49:42.000 I suppose right.

00:49:43.000 It's anti-semitism is so unique and horrible I guess the uniquely horrible thing about it is that it's never consistent or tangible and until that until that is understood that that that it is a

00:49:57.000 This isn't something that's really questioned about among academics, theologians, Jewish scholars.

00:50:03.000 I'm not presenting it.

00:50:05.000 This is why I thought I'm so optimistic about a dialogue.

00:50:08.000 But I think part of it is you view that the hate can't mutate.

00:50:12.000 And what I'm trying to tell you is that we have two thousand years of history.

00:50:19.000 I'm going to just push back just gently here.

00:50:24.000 For me personally, if I thought that racism could just be an ever-shifting definition based on the experience of black people, it would be a remarkable power and I would be able to create something like BLM, which could say that everything was racist.

00:50:39.000 So I am not going to be able

00:50:42.000 to agree that definition should be able to transform according to what's happening during the day.

00:50:48.000 But, here's what I will say, if you could, just because I think it's really important for us to get to going through this article, because then you might be able to explain why you view it as anti-Semitism, if you could just give us what you are saying the current definition of anti-Semitism is today, that would be very helpful.

00:51:07.000 What's the definition of anti-semitism today?

00:51:09.000 Okay, so you believe that Jewish people can be anti-semitic?

00:51:32.000 Okay, so when you see a gathering of Jewish people who say, you know, I'm Jewish, but I don't support Israel or Bibi Netanyahu, you say that person can be anti-Semitic.

00:51:43.000 You just did two different things that were totally unrelated.

00:51:48.000 You said that Jews that do not support Israel.

00:51:49.000 Yes.

00:51:56.000 And you said Jews that do not support Bibi Netanyahu.

00:51:59.000 I'm just saying that because he's the current prime minister.

00:52:01.000 So I'm saying like if they say they don't support... This is where you're missing the point.

00:52:08.000 So I'm going to go under the following premise, okay?

00:52:11.000 I'm going to go under the premise that you care about people.

00:52:15.000 You and I don't know each other, but I'm going to go under that premise.

00:52:17.000 I'm going to go under the premise that you have no desire to ever hurt anyone.

00:52:21.000 Okay.

00:52:22.000 That's the premise I'm coming into this dialogue with. 0.99

00:52:25.000 Jews are so condescending. 1.00

00:52:26.000 It's so evil. 1.00

00:52:28.000 You have been devastatingly hurtful.

00:52:32.000 And I think that I'm going to go from there.

00:52:36.000 You don't understand what it means to the Jewish world.

00:52:40.000 There's a great teaching that comes out of every sociologist, every person in academics is that

00:52:49.000 I don't get to tell a black man if he's experiencing racism.

00:52:53.000 He knows.

00:52:54.000 I don't get to tell you if you're experiencing misogyny.

00:52:57.000 You know.

00:52:59.000 If I make a comment, and it's misogynistic, and you say, Rabbi, you know that was really misogynistic, my job is to say, wow, I didn't mean that.

00:53:08.000 I apologize.

00:53:11.000 Jews get to tell us that was anti-Semitic.

00:53:15.000 Your job is to say, now you say, I'm sorry, Rabbi. 0.66

00:53:20.000 Now say it.

00:53:21.000 Say I'm sorry, Rabbi.

00:53:24.000 You can't tell me what it is.

00:53:26.000 I said it was anti-Semitic and you hurt me.

00:53:29.000 Now say I'm sorry, Rabbi.

00:53:31.000 That's your job.

00:53:32.000 Now say it.

00:53:34.000 Say it, Goyim.

00:53:35.000 That's not what I meant.

00:53:39.000 And do not get the right.

00:53:42.000 You do not have their right, Goy. 1.00

00:53:45.000 You don't have their right to say what is anti-Semitic.

00:53:48.000 Say, I'm sorry, Rabbi.

00:53:51.000 No, I'm not trying to- I don't think I said anything about me having the right- I just said to you, would you then view- They're so evil.

00:53:58.000 They're wicked. 0.74

00:53:59.000 Because I did host somebody who is Jewish, Dave Smith, on my show.

00:54:04.000 I'm sure you're familiar with him.

00:54:05.000 He's a comedian, he's a libertarian, he is not pro-Zionist.

00:54:08.000 So I'm just asking you for clarity, because you're saying that you can't dismiss a Jewish person, but aren't you thereby dismissing Jewish people who say that I don't support Israel as a state?

00:54:18.000 I'm just trying to have you answer that question.

00:54:22.000 I will ask you back the same question.

00:54:25.000 Are there Blacks who are, do not support Blacks? 0.60

00:54:28.000 Are there, pick the cause for the minority who do not support or not, or are actually even better. 0.83

00:54:35.000 You and I both sit on the conservative side.

00:54:38.000 We share that, right?

00:54:40.000 And we face the same way when it comes to that.

00:54:43.000 And we both, I think, are disappointed in those who Republicans name.

00:54:48.000 Brett?

00:54:49.000 Yes.

00:54:50.000 OK.

00:54:50.000 Does that mean they're not Republicans?

00:54:53.000 Well, I wouldn't describe a race as a political ideology, like a political party.

00:54:57.000 That's very different.

00:54:58.000 So to say that you can't be a race, like you're not black if you don't support this, is different than, like, you're basically saying that a Jewish person can't be anti-Semitic.

00:55:07.000 So that would be like saying a black person can, in fact, be racist towards, or they're not black.

00:55:15.000 I'm not going to comment on black 0.98

00:55:19.000 I will say there are plenty of self-hating Jews. 0.90

00:55:22.000 Okay, so you do believe, that's all I was trying to get you to say, is that Jewish people who don't support Israel, you are saying they are anti-Semitic.

00:55:27.000 I just want to understand that. 0.91

00:55:29.000 I'm saying it very clearly, they are self-hating Jews. 1.00

00:55:32.000 Let's use that term very specifically. 0.95

00:55:34.000 And you need to understand why they are self-hating Jews. 0.86

00:55:37.000 And you need to understand, as numerous people have talked about, I've written about, Gregor's talked about, Skorka's talked about, Levin's talked about, a number of people have talked about,

00:55:48.000 Shapiro's talked about, as I say, I've written about, is that people want to assimilate.

00:55:55.000 For 2,000 years, Jews have been persecuted, and so they want to assimilate, and so many have converted from Judaism, not to another religion, but to leftist politics.

00:56:04.000 That becomes their religion.

00:56:06.000 And they lose their identity.

00:56:08.000 That is a reality.

00:56:10.000 So you need to understand, or I shouldn't say you need to, that's not fair, and I apologize.

00:56:15.000 I hope, I would hope that you understand a history and an understanding that we define what anti-semitism is.

00:56:25.000 And what happened on October 7th, what happened on October 7th, and I wrote an article about you in November.

00:56:37.000 I don't know if you read it or not.

00:56:38.000 I was told you had, but I don't know if you did or not.

00:56:41.000 I did not.

00:56:42.000 Okay.

00:56:43.000 I wish you had.

00:56:45.000 I really wish you had.

00:56:46.000 Because we might be in a very different place.

00:56:49.000 You went on Tucker Carlson.

00:56:52.000 After all, this is November.

00:56:54.000 This guy is such a load, dude.

00:56:58.000 And... Okay, go ahead.

00:56:59.000 I was going to say, I want to talk about that, because you put that in this article, which was published just last week.

00:57:05.000 So I wrote a very specific article, and you can find it right now. 0.90

00:57:09.000 The self-hating Jew thing is funny because what he's really saying is that Jews that do not affirm their Jewish identity are evil, and that is what Jews believe. 0.93

00:57:20.000 He said, no, no, we're not going to call Jews that don't support Israel anti-Semites, we're going to call 0.98

00:57:27.000 Jews that don't support Israel self-hating Jews. 0.67

00:57:30.000 Why?

00:57:31.000 Because they want to assimilate into the West by adopting left-wing politics.

00:57:37.000 And that, if you pay attention, that's something that they are very... They're very... They ostracize any Jew that wants to truly assimilate.

00:57:47.000 But if you notice earlier, he said that when Jews assimilated into the West, that's when anti-Semitism became racial. 0.93

00:57:54.000 But now he's saying that if you seek to assimilate, you're a self-hating Jew.

00:57:59.000 You're a Jew that's an enemy of the Jews if you want to assimilate. 1.00

00:58:03.000 So they don't want to be like us. 0.85

00:58:05.000 They don't want to join us.

00:58:07.000 They don't want to be American. 0.99

00:58:08.000 They don't want to join the universal brotherhood of mankind under a left-wing

00:58:15.000 It was an impersonal invitation to you and for you that despite everything else I had read or seen or heard

00:58:45.000 That my belief and my hope is that your comment of wanting to have an academics discussion about October 7th came from a place of not really realizing what October 7th was.

00:59:00.000 October 7th is unique in recorded human history as the ugliest day of humanity. 1.00

00:59:09.000 These people are ridiculous! 0.99

00:59:14.000 The Holocaust was a unique genocide. 1.00

00:59:17.000 Anti-Semitism is a unique form of hatred.

00:59:20.000 October 7th was a unique day- Okay, really dude?

00:59:24.000 It was done on October 7th.

00:59:31.000 Taking a young woman, taking her phone to videotape her being raped on the corpse of her dead boyfriend, and then shot on it, and sending that video to her parents.

00:59:44.000 Beheading a man with a garden hoe, kicking a woman until her body parts fall off, is unique in terms of the intention to attack civilians. 0.98

00:59:54.000 And so in November, after you made the comment on Tucker Carlson about wanting an academic discussion about how, you know, those kind of comments that you made and the ennui that you demonstrate, I wrote an article saying that I would arrange for you, there's a film, a 47-minute film by the IDF,

01:00:14.000 It's all the footage done by Hamas terrorists of what they were doing so proudly what they wanted to do and that my belief was I don't think that you quite realize that and I would arrange for private screening for you and your friends. 0.90

01:00:28.000 So we're gonna hit you with atrocity propaganda and re-education and then, when you've seen what they did to us, then you're equipped to have this conversation.

01:00:47.000 I think it's important.

01:00:48.000 You and your friends.

01:00:51.000 You and your friends.

01:00:52.000 All expense paid trip to watch a 47-minute snuff film.

01:00:56.000 That's not an opinion.

01:00:58.000 That's not an opinion.

01:01:02.000 I didn't say opinion.

01:01:03.000 I said I want to acknowledge your pain about...

01:01:05.000 I apologize.

01:01:06.000 Dude, they're so obnoxious.

01:01:06.000 That's not an opinion.

01:01:07.000 I didn't say opinion.

01:01:08.000 I said I want to acknowledge your pain about October 7th.

01:01:11.000 I apologize.

01:01:12.000 Dude, they're so...

01:01:24.000 Ugh.

01:01:25.000 Now you guys are starting to see.

01:01:27.000 I feel like my entire life, everybody's looked at me as like, not my entire life, but the last seven years, my entire adult life, when I talk about Jews, people look at me like I'm crazy, you know?

01:01:38.000 And I talk about how these people are, people look at me like, what's your hang-up?

01:01:44.000 What's with the obsession?

01:01:46.000 But I feel like after everything that's been happening lately,

01:01:50.000 Everybody can get a little taste of what I've seen for years, what I've realized a long time ago in its totality.

01:02:01.000 The way he goes, that's not an opinion!

01:02:03.000 These people are just like... 0.69

01:02:18.000 They're so unlikable.

01:02:20.000 These guys like Schmooly, this guy, Jonathan Greenblatt, Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, Mark Levin, they're all so unlikable. 0.99

01:02:24.000 They're so arrogant. 0.99

01:02:25.000 They obviously don't give a fuck about any of us. 1.00

01:02:27.000 They only care about each other. 0.99

01:02:47.000 So insincere, rude, ugh.

01:02:52.000 October 7th, and I want to get to that because you are- Does that make sense?

01:02:56.000 Yeah, you're mischaracterizing what I said on Tucker Carlson, but I do have a clip and we're going to be able to watch it.

01:03:01.000 I definitely did not say I wanted to have an academic debate about October 7th.

01:03:05.000 That's not what I said at all.

01:03:08.000 But like I said, I have the clip and I do also want

01:03:12.000 I think it's best for us to dive into what you actually wrote about me, because there are several mischaracterizations, I believe, of what I said, but both of us are going to be able to watch it.

01:03:23.000 So, again, this is the article.

01:03:25.000 And by the way, you did say in this article that you heard that I received your invitation.

01:03:32.000 That is false.

01:03:33.000 I think it's important to just maybe name the people who told you that I received your invitation.

01:03:38.000 No, I'd rather not do that, especially since you're saying that

01:03:40.000 That's incorrect, in which case I apologize.

01:03:42.000 No, you can apologize.

01:03:43.000 I just think that, like, a lot of the reason that things happen is because there is this sort of back-channeling and discussion, and nobody told me that I got an invitation, and now you've written that I refused an invitation, and so that adds to people believing... So Candace, I'm gonna ask you a question right now.

01:04:00.000 I'm inviting you.

01:04:01.000 Forget about the article.

01:04:04.000 Because I have no issue and would love to write an article saying, I was wrong, Candace Owens does not feel that way.

01:04:09.000 I would love that.

01:04:10.000 So I'm inviting you right now.

01:04:13.000 I will set up a screening for you.

01:04:14.000 Will you come?

01:04:16.000 If you set up a screening for me after we go through this, I just want to also be able to estimate your character by going through some of the things that you wrote.

01:04:23.000 You did write some things that I believe... Wait, wait, wait.

01:04:25.000 I'm asking you a yes or no question.

01:04:27.000 No, no, no.

01:04:27.000 And I just said to you, I'm going to give you an answer to that.

01:04:31.000 But I'm asking you a question.

01:04:33.000 You said you haven't had an invitation.

01:04:35.000 I'm asking you.

01:04:49.000 I don't have to be there.

01:04:50.000 I'll set it up for you.

01:04:51.000 Okay, sure.

01:04:51.000 If you want to set it up for me to have a screening of that here without you there, that's fine.

01:04:55.000 What I'm saying is that... Okay, great.

01:04:58.000 Based on what you wrote about me, I wouldn't... So horrible.

01:05:04.000 Disgusting. 0.99

01:05:06.000 I'm just glad the world is finally starting to see. 0.86

01:05:09.000 God bless Candace Owens, because she has so much more patience than I do. 0.57

01:05:16.000 With people like this, I mean me, I just can't even sit still in my seat watching this, but she's putting on a masterclass, letting the tool do the work, so to speak.

01:05:27.000 She is letting them reveal themselves for what they are, so God bless her.

01:05:31.000 I just can't even with these people.

01:05:37.000 I wouldn't take an invitation from you anywhere.

01:05:39.000 I think that's fair, given what's in this article.

01:05:42.000 I think that's a normal human response, that if somebody has written something that is utterly libelous about you, it mischaracterizes what you said.

01:05:50.000 But if you want to set it up separately, and you want to send it to the Daily Wire, and you want to set up a private screening, I absolutely will watch the events of October 7th.

01:05:58.000 You know what?

01:05:59.000 God bless you.

01:06:01.000 And had I ever heard you say that, I wouldn't have written an article.

01:06:05.000 Well, I think you still would have, because you made a lot of points in here.

01:06:08.000 No, no, I wouldn't have.

01:06:09.000 No, I wouldn't have, because I believe in the idea that it's about what we act and learn.

01:06:13.000 And we have a concept called Schubert Introduction.

01:06:16.000 No, actually, honestly, had you said there, at any point, what you just now said to me, that you would watch a screening.

01:06:23.000 I don't need to be there.

01:06:25.000 That you would watch a screening.

01:06:28.000 If I said it up, I would not have written that article.

01:06:32.000 Okay.

01:06:32.000 Well, I do still want to go through these points, though, because you... Okay, but do you hear that, please?

01:06:36.000 Yes, I hear that, and thank you for saying that, but a lot of what you wrote in this article is a lot of what I'm assuming you have a friendly relationship with Rabbi Shmuley has been saying about me, so it's really important to go through these points, because when you write something like, is a Jew hating bigot, that's very strong language, and we need to go through these points.

01:06:54.000 So we'll go through all of them, sure.

01:06:55.000 Yes, thank you.

01:06:56.000 Okay, let's just begin here.

01:06:58.000 So you basically make the argument that I'm drunk on fame and that that is the reason why I have let out the truth about who I am, which makes me a Jew-hater. 0.98

01:07:08.000 First thing you say is that this is a woman who is such an anti-Semite and so ignorant of history that in 2018 she publicly said that Hitler was okay. 0.88

01:07:20.000 Do you actually believe that I publicly said that Hitler was okay? 0.91

01:07:25.000 So from the recording that I heard, including the congressional testimony, which I think was taken out of context, and from the comments that you said, okay?

01:07:37.000 And you're correct if I'm wrong, but my understanding from your comments is you were asked a question about nationals.

01:07:43.000 And you responded about nationalism using the example that nationalism was good, and that what Hitler did, Hitler was nationalistic in Germany, and that was okay. 0.75

01:07:57.000 We're good.

01:08:08.000 So, when you just write, she publicly said Hitler was okay.

01:08:13.000 That is dishonest, because what I actually was saying was answering a question, as you brought up, where we were not even talking about Jews, not talking about the Holocaust.

01:08:22.000 A woman was asking about whether or not it's okay for people today to say that they're nationalists, when it's often associated as a dirty word.

01:08:31.000 And what I was saying was that it's wrongly associated with Hitler.

01:08:34.000 I don't believe that Hitler was a nationalist, because obviously Hitler 0.97

01:08:39.000 Invaded Poland. 0.96

01:08:40.000 He obviously had ambitions outside of... So we have the clip, so we're gonna play it.

01:08:46.000 So again, the question that's being asked of me is whether or not nationalism is an okay word to embrace.

01:08:53.000 Let's play the clip so we can hear me and what I actually said.

01:08:58.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:08:59.000 I actually don't have any problems at all with the word nationalism.

01:09:01.000 I think that it gets, the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism.

01:09:08.000 Globalism is what I don't want.

01:09:10.000 So, when you think about, whenever we say nationalism, the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler.

01:09:15.000 So again, we're trying there to define nationalism.

01:09:17.000 Does your statement, she publicly said that Hitler was okay, is that an honest statement? 0.52

01:09:45.000 Yeah, so let's talk about this for a moment, is that okay?

01:09:48.000 Yeah.

01:09:50.000 You were asked a question about nationalism.

01:09:54.000 You responded with an example of Adolf Hitler.

01:09:59.000 Yes, I said because Americans associate, the reason why I think it's a dirty word is because of Adolf Hitler.

01:10:06.000 You responded, and you have subsequently, and I've seen you, subsequently, and I think you even said it in the congressional hearing, you have obviously condemned him for

01:10:15.000 Was.

01:10:19.000 But you brought Hitler's name into the discussion.

01:10:22.000 Correct.

01:10:24.000 And you justify that this is how America feels or how people feel.

01:10:29.000 And that's your take on it.

01:10:31.000 It's not necessarily accurate.

01:10:32.000 In fact, it probably isn't from a from an actual sociological standpoint.

01:10:37.000 But that's your opinion.

01:10:38.000 Fine.

01:10:41.000 But Candace, you

01:10:45.000 You put in the same sentence what he did if it just had stayed in Germany was okay.

01:10:52.000 But more importantly, and here's a piece of the anti-Semitism, why bring one of the most evil men of history into the discussion?

01:11:06.000 You could just as easily have given any negative examples of nationalism.

01:11:12.000 You chose to bring Hitler on. 0.96

01:11:16.000 I did.

01:11:16.000 And I have no, if I could go backwards in the context of trying to understand why Americans think that nationalism is a bad word, it was appropriate for me to bring off Adolf Hitler.

01:11:30.000 It is totally appropriate in any capacity when you are talking about history and historical sentiments to bring up any relevant character that has created those sentiments.

01:11:41.000 So I just want to, again, I just want to yes or no.

01:11:43.000 After watching that in context... I want to make sure we don't run out of time here.

01:11:47.000 After watching that in context, do you think it is fair that you wrote, she publicly said that Hitler was okay?

01:11:54.000 Hitler was okay? 0.99

01:11:55.000 Yes, by bringing me even into the conversation, yes I do.

01:11:58.000 Wow!

01:12:00.000 These people... This is why, by the way, we have to do the...

01:12:06.000 I love Hitler thing. 0.99

01:12:08.000 You know, people are always like, well, is it necessary?

01:12:10.000 Is it necessary to talk about Hitler and praise Hitler and blah blah blah?

01:12:18.000 Under these circumstances, just the act itself, by its own... It justifies itself.

01:12:29.000 Because this is the reaction. 0.97

01:12:30.000 So ridiculous. 0.88

01:12:33.000 But that's why you can't even give them an inch on that. 0.96

01:12:36.000 Because if you find yourself in a scenario where a Jew is lecturing you about your use of Hitler, whether you said he's good, bad, ugly, whatever, and you have to plead with them, but I don't think Hitler's okay, but I didn't say Hitler was okay, you've already lost. 0.78

01:12:56.000 Why should we be constrained in that way?

01:13:00.000 As Americans, as white Christian Americans, why should we feel constrained?

01:13:07.000 He says that we can't even utter the name Hitler.

01:13:12.000 Or discuss Hitler. 0.62

01:13:13.000 Now, if they want to go in and say, oh, so-and-so's Hitler, and this one's Hitler, and that one's an anti-Semite, they can be as flippant as they want to be, and they can use it as liberally as possible.

01:13:25.000 Well, but you mentioned Hitler, so you support Hitler, so you support genocide. 0.69

01:13:32.000 And that's the level of slander. 0.58

01:13:35.000 Because to say that somebody likes Hitler is like saying, oh, you're a Nazi and you support, like, murdering people.

01:13:43.000 So, an allusion to Hitler in any context, in any way, is the same thing as saying, I'm a murderer. 0.93

01:13:52.000 I support mass murderers. 0.96

01:13:55.000 And this Jew thinks that's okay. 1.00

01:13:59.000 Let's move on here, because again, this discussion, we're having it between us, but I want the public to be able to, you know, deduce what's... I wonder what the comments say.

01:14:11.000 When she played her Hitler quote and he still stood by what he wrote, I lost respect for this guy.

01:14:18.000 True.

01:14:19.000 The demons Judas saw in the passion of the Christ weren't shown to demonize Jews for not believing in Jesus.

01:14:24.000 This is from later on.

01:14:32.000 Okay, so I don't know if these people are getting it.

01:14:35.000 We'll read all the comments afterward.

01:14:36.000 What's fair and what's not fair.

01:14:38.000 You then wrote this statement.

01:14:40.000 A mere month after the horrors of babies being beheaded, women being raped, and the slews of horrors from Hamas, Owens went on Tucker Carlson's show to speak about how it really wasn't that bad, and why should she even care? 0.71

01:14:54.000 After all, she seems to think that Hitler was okay, so what's the problem?

01:14:59.000 Is that true that I went on Tucker Carlson's show and said that October 7th really wasn't that bad?

01:15:04.000 Yeah, actually you did.

01:15:07.000 You did it through the implications and the words.

01:15:10.000 And I actually do know where some of those clips are because I re-watched it multiple times.

01:15:15.000 And you specifically say you want to have an academic discussion.

01:15:19.000 You specifically say, I don't want to misquote you, that you believe you have a moderate stance because

01:15:29.000 You see the children dying and on both sides, and you talk about the pain, and I think you do feel pain about Gaza. 0.69

01:15:40.000 And this goes back to the anti-Semitism campus.

01:15:45.000 What happened October 7th is unique.

01:15:49.000 It is, to even make a moral equivalency,

01:15:55.000 This is one of the keys in anti-Semitism and in any prejudice and bigotry, is that an inappropriate moral equivalency is created.

01:16:03.000 When someone says that this race, these people, whomever, are like dogs, they've made a moral equivalency between those people and dogs, that is bigotry.

01:16:12.000 Okay.

01:16:13.000 So I just, I first want to debunk the idea that, I first want to debunk the idea that I did not, like I in any way said it really wasn't that bad.

01:16:21.000 That statement never came out of my mouth and I also want to show that actually, contrary to that, I condemned, I condemned, I condemned what Hamas did. 0.98

01:16:29.000 So let's just show that clip of what I said and then I want to get to your quotation about academic discussion.

01:16:35.000 Let's just show what I said about Hamas. 0.95

01:16:38.000 I have seen every single person, including myself, condemn what happened on October 7th, because who wouldn't condemn terrorism?

01:16:43.000 It's obvious.

01:16:44.000 Who would not condemn innocent Israelis dying? 1.00

01:16:47.000 But if you then say that it is also sad when an innocent Palestinian child dies, suddenly this is pro-Hamas, or you need to say, even when you're talking about how sad it is that a child dies, you need to button that statement by saying, but that child was a human shield.

01:17:00.000 That's not going to be my response.

01:17:02.000 First off, as a mother, that's not going to be my response as somebody who is about to

01:17:06.000 to give birth when I see these images of children involved on both sides of the conflict.

01:17:10.000 I've pointed to the people that are mocking dead Israeli children and said that they are horrific.

01:17:15.000 I am even keel on this matter.

01:17:16.000 And yet people think that you need to be extreme.

01:17:19.000 So people that have become more radical and extreme are perceiving a moderate stance as not enough.

01:17:27.000 People can disagree with you or agree with you or whatever but you certainly don't seem radical on this topic.

01:17:31.000 And I'm gonna hold here before you comment on that, because your next sentence... Dude, Tucker... The way that Tucker responded to that is crazy.

01:17:38.000 Well, people can agree or disagree, but you're not a radical. 0.99

01:17:42.000 What the fuck kind of response is that? 0.99

01:17:44.000 Candace said, well, hey, I'm just saying that it's sad when Palestinians die too. 1.00

01:17:49.000 And Tucker goes, yeah, well... I mean, agree or disagree, you're definitely not an extremist.

01:17:55.000 What? 0.99

01:17:55.000 What the fuck? 0.99

01:17:56.000 What kind of response is that, even? 1.00

01:17:59.000 I'm sure Tucker was surprised to hear her say that.

01:18:02.000 I don't know if he'd have her on the show otherwise.

01:18:04.000 As you just said, she wanted to talk about the depravities of Hamas as an academic discussion and refused to even condemn Hamas.

01:18:11.000 So we just saw that I did condemn Hamas.

01:18:14.000 And regarding the academic discussion... No, you didn't!

01:18:15.000 I'm sorry.

01:18:16.000 No, you made a moral equivalency between Hamas and Gaza.

01:18:20.000 I didn't do that.

01:18:20.000 There is no moral equivalency.

01:18:22.000 What Hamas did is evil.

01:18:24.000 It is not a tragedy, only it is evil.

01:18:26.000 I'm sorry, Candace, but you make an equivalency that does not exist in most people's minds and certainly in no Jew's minds.

01:18:33.000 OK, so I'm glad that you said that so people can hear what I actually said.

01:18:36.000 Did you say most importantly?

01:18:37.000 Certainly in no Jew's minds. 1.00

01:18:39.000 Certainly.

01:18:40.000 OK, so I'm glad that you said that so people can hear what I actually said and hear what you are saying and how you are taking it.

01:18:47.000 I don't know how you could write this statement, she refused to condemn Hamas when I literally said, who would not condemn these horrific events? 0.73

01:18:53.000 Because you don't condemn them uniquely evil.

01:18:55.000 You put them in para-pursuit relationships.

01:18:57.000 So you're saying that, you're saying that even though I did, so now you're admitting that I did condemn Hamas.

01:19:03.000 Even though you wrote she refused to condemn Hamas.

01:19:06.000 What condemnation is?

01:19:07.000 Is this where you really want to go, is have an English discussion on what condemnation is?

01:19:10.000 No, no, no.

01:19:10.000 You wrote she refused to condemn Hamas.

01:19:13.000 These are your words.

01:19:14.000 Because when you put that, the moment you say that they have a moral equivalency with anything else, that's not condemnation, no matter what you wrote about that.

01:19:22.000 I didn't.

01:19:22.000 I said it's sad and innocent.

01:19:24.000 It's not condemnation.

01:19:26.000 I'll just ask you a question.

01:19:27.000 Is it sad?

01:19:28.000 Is it sad?

01:19:29.000 Sure.

01:19:30.000 I don't want to cut each other off, okay?

01:19:32.000 Because clearly what we are having here is just a disagreement.

01:19:34.000 There's no reason to get angry.

01:19:36.000 Do you think it is sad when an innocent Palestinian child dies?

01:19:45.000 Candace, I cry every day.

01:19:49.000 And it's not just for Israel. 1.00

01:19:50.000 Look at this fucking freak. 1.00

01:19:52.000 Ugh. 1.00

01:19:58.000 It's so hard to watch this and keep it rumble, rumble appropriate.

01:20:05.000 Look at this freak.

01:20:06.000 Oh, it's difficult.

01:20:21.000 It's difficult.

01:20:22.000 Some days it's difficult.

01:20:26.000 And this is one of the things you clearly do not understand.

01:20:29.000 The same way most don't, who are anti-Semites, you don't get it.

01:20:33.000 I cry for what's going on in Israel. 0.88

01:20:35.000 I cry just as much for what we are forced to do.

01:20:41.000 Golda Meir had a great quote.

01:20:44.000 She said that one day we may be able to forgive them for killing Israeli children. 1.00

01:20:50.000 We will never be able to forgive them 0.99

01:20:53.000 For making us kill their children. 0.96

01:20:58.000 So what about my statement of saying that I also cry? 0.99

01:21:01.000 That is so funny.

01:21:04.000 We will forgive them for killing our children. 0.99

01:21:06.000 We will never forgive them for making us kill their children. 1.00

01:21:13.000 Oh my gosh. 1.00

01:21:14.000 That's an insane quote. 1.00

01:21:19.000 You made us kill your kids. 1.00

01:21:21.000 You made us do it and we'll never forgive you for making us kill your kids. 1.00

01:21:35.000 In any way shape or form morally equivalent to October 7th. 0.99

01:21:40.000 That is the anti-Semitic bigotry.

01:21:53.000 You said I wanted to talk about the depravities of Hamas as an academic discussion. 0.80

01:21:59.000 Actually, I was talking about NATO and here is a clip of what I said when I used the words academic discussion.

01:22:05.000 Take a listen.

01:22:06.000 I mean, you can go back to me even talking about NATO expansion before things erupted between Russia and Ukraine.

01:22:13.000 You're using it in the reference, Candace, in the dialogue about October 7th.

01:22:15.000 You're using your discussions of NATO as an analogy, in an analogous way.

01:22:38.000 About how we should be able to discuss October 7th.

01:22:41.000 Okay, so you think that it is fair after listening to that, me talking about NATO and me talking about Russia and Ukraine and saying that we should always be able to have an academic discussion about foreign policy, you think your statement still is fair saying that she wanted to talk about the depravities of Hamas as an academic discussion?

01:23:01.000 Because you're using that context and you're the one taking your own quotes out of context.

01:23:06.000 I played it.

01:23:06.000 I didn't take it out of context.

01:23:07.000 I just played it.

01:23:08.000 Then play the whole paragraph where you're talking before the entire issue.

01:23:11.000 I did.

01:23:12.000 So the first part was what I just showed you.

01:23:14.000 That was actually a split clip.

01:23:16.000 The first part, the first half of that.

01:23:18.000 We're good.

01:23:38.000 To be clear, I just broke out academic discussion because I was referring... Candace, I'm going to ask you really simple questions.

01:23:46.000 No, no, no, no.

01:23:48.000 I want to keep going through this.

01:23:49.000 I think it's important here.

01:23:50.000 It's about this.

01:23:51.000 I'm going to ask you a simple question.

01:23:54.000 Do you ever mean to hurt people because they're race, religion, or color?

01:23:57.000 Ever.

01:23:57.000 Do I ever mean to hurt people?

01:23:59.000 Because they're race, religion, or color.

01:24:00.000 Ever.

01:24:03.000 I can't hear the last part of it.

01:24:04.000 I don't know why I'm not hearing it.

01:24:06.000 I apologize if we know about the technology.

01:24:09.000 Do you ever intend to hurt or want to hurt anyone based on their race, religion, theology, color, etc.?

01:24:18.000 No.

01:24:19.000 Never.

01:24:20.000 Not once.

01:24:21.000 All right.

01:24:24.000 What you need to hear is your statement.

01:24:30.000 I'm not alone in this.

01:24:33.000 Because it is in the whole context of October 7th, it's hurtful to choose.

01:24:39.000 Okay.

01:24:40.000 And I'd like to give you an analogy that I think that might really help our dialogue, if that's okay.

01:24:49.000 A number of years ago, a movie came out called The Passion of the Christ.

01:24:51.000 Did you see the movie?

01:24:52.000 Yes, it's a wonderful movie.

01:24:54.000 Okay.

01:24:56.000 And I saw the movie as well.

01:24:57.000 I saw it the opening day and saw it twice and I arranged for a screening.

01:25:06.000 When I was a professor, I realized something in watching that movie.

01:25:12.000 There are two movies going on.

01:25:15.000 If you accept Jesus as your Savior, then that movie is so brilliant and so painful about his suffering that it transcends everything else and that's all you see.

01:25:31.000 I think you just said it was a brilliant movie, as many of my friends did, et cetera.

01:25:36.000 I think it was a brilliant movie too, as well.

01:25:39.000 If you don't accept Jesus as your Savior, you're not so emotionally attached to all the suffering that Gibson portrays so well.

01:25:50.000 So what you do notice, as an example, are all the anti-Semitic things.

01:25:56.000 So I had a discussion with

01:26:01.000 Come on.

01:26:06.000 He goes, if you don't believe that Jesus Christ is God, well, you don't really care so much when they're beating him and whipping him and crucifying him.

01:26:15.000 We don't care.

01:26:16.000 We don't think he's a savior.

01:26:18.000 We do know this is all the anti-semitism.

01:26:21.000 Seriously? 0.96

01:26:23.000 These people are just like beyond parody and so evil.

01:26:27.000 I'll give you an example of one scene. 0.98

01:26:29.000 There's a scene of little Jewish kids who chase Judas, and they morph into demons. 0.91

01:26:34.000 And they're wearing modern 20th century yarmulkes, and they have classic Jewish archetypal faces, and they morph into demons. 1.00

01:26:41.000 And with modern yarmulkes, it's that trope of Jews as demons.

01:26:46.000 And Laney said to me, I don't remember that scene.

01:26:50.000 And I realized in that moment,

01:26:52.000 She was so emotionally involved in the suffering of Jesus, she didn't notice the anti-Semitism.

01:26:57.000 But what about the Jews? 0.73

01:26:59.000 You're so worried about Jesus, you don't even care about his Jews.

01:27:03.000 Is that a real scene?

01:27:04.000 Passion of the Christ to this.

01:27:24.000 I'm sorry.

01:27:26.000 It was a mistake. 0.97

01:27:42.000 I hate you!

01:28:02.000 So this is the scene he's talking about. 0.97

01:28:33.000 In what way is that anti-Semitic?

01:28:49.000 I think they just feel bad for Judas.

01:28:51.000 Let's see, Mark Dice says, The demons Judas saw weren't shown to demonize Jews.

01:28:58.000 They were demons tormenting Judas for betraying Jesus.

01:29:01.000 Yeah, yeah, I think that's...

01:29:06.000 Both are true.

01:29:21.000 You may not have the desire to have that pain in your heart, but what I'm trying to tell you is

01:29:29.000 By having a conversation with Tucker Carlson, under the umbrella of October 7th, which is what that segment was about, and saying that you have a moderate stance, that there should be able to be discussion, just like there is about NATO.

01:29:46.000 It invalidates the reality of the absolute evil that is unique to October 7th.

01:29:54.000 Had you asked me on October 6th what to do with Hamas,

01:29:58.000 Despite that in their covenant of 1988, their charter, which I don't know if you've read, despite the fact that in articles 7, 11, and 13, they call for the destruction of all Jews.

01:30:07.000 If you'd asked me on October 6th, I would say we should do whatever we should do for peace.

01:30:12.000 What they did on October 7th was surrender their human souls.

01:30:17.000 They became Amalek, if you're familiar with the character from the Bible.

01:30:21.000 And what they did is so evil.

01:30:24.000 It cannot be compared to anything else.

01:30:27.000 Just like what Hitler did is so evil, no one should compare. 0.81

01:30:32.000 I don't care if it's Trump or Obama, no one should compare any political leaders to Daniel.

01:30:35.000 But do you see?

01:30:38.000 This is so important.

01:30:40.000 They literally want to create themselves as the ultimate sacrificial victim.

01:30:47.000 That is the nucleus.

01:30:51.000 That is the nuclear myth.

01:30:54.000 Western civilization and in that sense they aim to replace Christ and that's why it's so funny that he brought up or telling that he brought up the passion of the Christ because the foundation of Christianity is that Christ is a sacrificial lamb and the real Holocaust the real offering is the blood of Jesus and that is the sacrifice of 0.86

01:31:22.000 upon which everything else is built.

01:31:25.000 The saving sacrifice, the saving grace of the blood atonement that Jesus paid on the cross.

01:31:35.000 And what this Jew says is, well, you Christians are so focused on the suffering of Jesus, you forget about the suffering of us Jews. 0.89

01:31:46.000 For Christians, well, it's a brilliant movie because it depicts the suffering of the ultimate victim, Jesus, the ultimate sacrifice, Jesus. 0.99

01:31:56.000 But for those that don't believe in Jesus, what about the suffering and the victimhood of the Jews?

01:32:03.000 And then he brings up

01:32:05.000 October 7th.

01:32:06.000 It says October 7th was unique in all of history.

01:32:09.000 Nothing like October 7th has ever happened before.

01:32:13.000 Just like nothing like the Holocaust has ever happened before. 0.92

01:32:17.000 And so that makes them, not Jesus, the ultimate... Even in a movie about Jesus, Jews are supposed to be the ultimate victim. 0.98

01:32:28.000 And that is the basis of the definition of anti-Semitism.

01:32:34.000 That it's not about even hating Jews, it's about drawing a moral equivalency.

01:32:41.000 If we are to draw a moral equivalency, or even compare the suffering of one group versus the Jews, or one atrocity versus the Jews, they say that in itself is anti-Semitism because the suffering of the Jews is greater than the suffering of anybody else, they say.

01:32:59.000 We can't compare the suffering of the Palestinians because nothing compares to the suffering of the Jews. 1.00

01:33:04.000 We can't compare any genocide of the Holocaust because nothing compares. 0.75

01:33:09.000 And so it's anti-Semitism is really about protecting that mythological victim status.

01:33:17.000 That being the foundation of the political order.

01:33:20.000 Sacrificial violence. 0.99

01:33:22.000 And specifically, sacrificial violence against the Jews. 0.61

01:33:27.000 So it's very telling that anti-Semitism has a lot less to do with, you know, do you like Jews or do you hate Jews?

01:33:35.000 And it's more about protecting the status of the violence that's been perpetrated against them.

01:33:48.000 Because if we were to start questioning it, I think the whole political order would fall apart.

01:33:55.000 If we were to replace the suffering of the Jews in the Holocaust with the suffering of Jesus on the cross, we would have a completely different political order. 0.57

01:34:04.000 With probably many, a lot fewer Jews in power, and maybe a Catholic state.

01:34:10.000 You know, all this stuff is connected.

01:34:14.000 Jews want to separate church and state. 1.00

01:34:16.000 Jews are against Christianity. 0.99

01:34:18.000 They think Christianity itself is anti-Semitic. 0.97

01:34:20.000 They hate the Catholic Church.

01:34:22.000 And they want the Holocaust to be the core instead of the crucifixion and the resurrection.

01:34:36.000 Very, very telling.

01:34:40.000 Which of course, by the way, none of that is true.

01:34:42.000 Of course other people have suffered as much or more than the Jews. 0.98

01:34:47.000 To say otherwise is ridiculous. 0.64

01:34:49.000 Nothing like October 7th has ever happened. 0.94

01:34:51.000 How about 9-11?

01:34:54.000 They flew planes into the buildings, 3,000 people burned to death, were buried under a collapsing building, jumped out of the building.

01:35:03.000 How many died on October 7th?

01:35:05.000 And how many were actually even killed by Hamas versus killed by Israelis?

01:35:11.000 Some say it's in the hundreds.

01:35:13.000 So I say, there was nothing like October 7th, really?

01:35:16.000 I think many groups of people would disagree with that.

01:35:23.000 I think Ukrainians would disagree.

01:35:24.000 I'm talking about Ukrainians in the 30s.

01:35:29.000 I'm sure the Chinese would disagree under occupation from the Japanese.

01:35:34.000 I'm sure the victims of ISIS would disagree.

01:35:39.000 So, I mean, that's just not even true.

01:35:41.000 But that's why he says, well, we can't have an academic discussion about October 7th.

01:35:47.000 We can't debate it.

01:35:48.000 It's not an opinion.

01:35:49.000 Sit down and watch my movie.

01:35:51.000 Sit down and watch my stuff film.

01:35:52.000 And after you watch people get dismembered for 45 minutes, then we can talk about what the Jews can do and, you know, whether they can be restrained by Washington or anybody for that matter.

01:36:10.000 Okay, so I just don't, I'm just gonna be honest with you, I don't accept that characterization.

01:36:14.000 So what I'm doing now is I'm allowing you to say what you believe and showing the clips not removed from their context and we have to just allow, you know, people to take from this discussion what they can.

01:36:26.000 If you're like most Americans, you're struggling to make ends meet.

01:36:28.000 Everything is more expensive these days by the time you pay the bill.

01:36:40.000 Now, I do want to move on, though, because then the next sentence almost appears to me to be the inversion of what actually happened.

01:36:47.000 You write,

01:36:53.000 First of all, I was trying to find the actual place, number one.

01:36:55.000 Number two, I am very...

01:37:20.000 Candace, I will be happy to go try and find you things about it.

01:37:22.000 I'm sure Ben can find them as well.

01:37:24.000 I'm sure other people can't.

01:37:25.000 I want to make something real clear about this though.

01:37:29.000 I don't think that there is a place for any of the kind of dialogue, especially between people who are the same conservatives or on the same side.

01:37:40.000 I don't think there's a place to personally insult anyone.

01:37:44.000 And that comes from both sides.

01:37:47.000 I don't think it's okay for anyone to insult you or your family.

01:37:51.000 I don't think it's okay for you to insult anyone or their families.

01:37:56.000 I call you an anti-Semite because that's how I judge the way you act and what you've said.

01:38:02.000 I'm very pleased that you've agreed to watch the documentary.

01:38:05.000 It makes me very happy and you can comment on it after you've watched it.

01:38:09.000 It makes me really happy, honestly.

01:38:12.000 And I hope that after you see that you'll have a whole different understanding.

01:38:17.000 But I don't think it's okay for anyone to say, make personal attacks.

01:38:25.000 Now when Ben Shapiro calls you an anti-Semite, I call you an anti-Semite.

01:38:30.000 I only wish goodness on your soul, but that is how you act.

01:38:34.000 Okay.

01:38:34.000 That's very different than calling you a fill-in-the-blank pejorative.

01:38:39.000 Okay, but you did write, she castigated Ben Shapiro for being pro-Israel, so I'm just asking you...

01:38:46.000 Happy to find the exact bloodstream.

01:38:49.000 Happy to find it.

01:38:50.000 It just never happened.

01:38:51.000 I would never... Okay, you're saying that?

01:38:54.000 I'm happy to find where you... But he did insult me, but I did not insult Ben.

01:38:58.000 So that was very interesting, because I was like, that's almost an inversion of what happened here.

01:39:02.000 Well, okay.

01:39:03.000 Candace, he says something differently, I think, but I will find and give... I'm happy to let Skylar know a place in the... And only in that specific interview, by the way.

01:39:14.000 Oh, in that interview?

01:39:16.000 I'm happy to find those spaces where you castigated him and send them to Skylar.

01:39:36.000 Yeah, and you can just decide to share them with your audience or not.

01:39:39.000 We'll put it in right right in here if there's a example of a clip of me doing that.

01:39:43.000 It's actually I abstained from doing that and told Tucker that it's not something that I would do.

01:39:48.000 Okay, then you go on to talk about me attacking Rabbi Shmuley.

01:39:54.000 My audience has already seen him attacking me over the last two years.

01:39:58.000 And I'm just gonna ask you a basic question.

01:40:01.000 Does a black person or any person have a right to defend themselves? 0.98

01:40:06.000 Absolutely.

01:40:07.000 Okay, because that is interesting because Rabbi Shmuley and his daughter have attacked me and made videos of me for two years straight.

01:40:13.000 I have responded once and you have now, you're basically saying that I'm anti-semitic for responding.

01:40:19.000 So I'm just, I want your, your perception of when it is that a black person is allowed to respond.

01:40:23.000 So Candace, so first of all, I know Shmuley peripherally, we've probably met a half a dozen times.

01:40:29.000 Okay?

01:40:30.000 He is an incredibly knowledgeable man.

01:40:31.000 He formed the Lachlan Society at Oxford.

01:40:33.000 Incredibly knowledgeable man.

01:40:36.000 I don't know all the things that he has said about you.

01:40:41.000 I do know he's called you an anti-Semite and so am I.

01:41:06.000 That's not a personal attack on you and your family. 0.98

01:41:11.000 For you to call a man who is extremely knowledgeable, an unholy rabbi, and his hag daughter. 1.00

01:41:21.000 W. Forgetting about what he may or may not have done.

01:41:27.000 If he's attacked you personally, if he's said whatever horrific things about you personally, that you are a blankety blankety blankety blankety blank.

01:41:34.000 He's wrong.

01:41:35.000 If he's attacked you or your children or your family, your mother, for you to, rather than comment on whatever he's done, to call him an unholy rabbi, that is way out of line.

01:41:50.000 You don't even know what a rabbi's supposed to do. 1.00

01:41:52.000 So let me ask you a question.

01:41:53.000 Do you view that as anti-Semitic for me to respond?

01:41:57.000 Yes.

01:41:58.000 So it's anti-, okay.

01:41:59.000 So he can attack me for two years.

01:42:00.000 Is he a racist, just to be clear?

01:42:02.000 I don't know anyone who attacks you, so I can't comment.

01:42:03.000 It depends.

01:42:04.000 Candace, you don't get to get away with that.

01:42:23.000 I wasn't there, I'm asking you, I'm asking all of you.

01:42:26.000 Okay, but if you're saying that you weren't there, why would you put this into writing?

01:42:30.000 Isn't it incumbent upon you to research what's happened before you start saying to me that defending myself is anti-Semitic?

01:42:37.000 Candace, if he attacked you personally, if he said you were a black fill-in-the-blank, then he should be reprimanded for that, but it doesn't justify what you did.

01:42:52.000 You don't know what a rabbi does. 1.00

01:42:53.000 You don't know our theology.

01:42:55.000 How dare you call him an unholy rabbi?

01:42:57.000 How dare you go into the misogynistic... Oh, sorry, excuse me. 0.94

01:43:01.000 The anti-Semitic cult of his hag daughter, something used throughout the late 18th and early 20th century. 0.84

01:43:07.000 Sorry, sorry.

01:43:08.000 Hag is now anti-Semitic? 0.61

01:43:12.000 So that is a term of his hag daughter that goes back into the witches of Eastern Europe. 0.97

01:43:17.000 Why did you have to call her a hag daughter? 1.00

01:43:19.000 Just to be clear, because she's a witch. 1.00

01:43:22.000 I think she's a witch. 1.00

01:43:23.000 That's not because she's Jewish. 1.00

01:43:25.000 I would call someone a hag of any color. 1.00

01:43:27.000 I think she's a witch, what they have done over the last two years. 1.00

01:43:30.000 I believe his daughter is a hag. 1.00

01:43:31.000 I said that because that's what I believe. 1.00

01:43:33.000 You may disagree with me on that, but to say that's anti-Semitic is ridiculous. 0.99

01:43:37.000 I would call any person a hag. 1.00

01:43:39.000 Candace, Candace.

01:43:43.000 I'm gonna be very clear without trying to be insulting, so please forgive me if it comes off wrong.

01:43:49.000 Okay, it's not meant to.

01:43:50.000 It's fine, you can insult me.

01:43:52.000 I don't want to.

01:43:53.000 I've dealt with two years of a rabbi insulting me, so I'm totally clear with this.

01:43:58.000 I have no desire to insult anyone.

01:44:00.000 Yes!

01:44:02.000 But do you understand, are you familiar with the history of the Grimm fairy tales and the folk tales of Eastern Europe?

01:44:12.000 I know that we can go back and we can also say- No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:44:17.000 I'm asking a specific question.

01:44:18.000 Okay.

01:44:18.000 That the witch archetype of those fairy tales were specifically modeled and called the Jews.

01:44:25.000 That the Jews of that part of the world were called hags and witches specifically because they didn't eat the same food, they had different practices, and they were excluded that way as part of the bloodline.

01:44:35.000 So you are saying that we can look at- By calling a rabbi's daughter a witch,

01:44:40.000 It's an anti-semitic trope!

01:44:54.000 I'm actually not going to edit my language for two people that have been attacking me for two years.

01:44:58.000 And so what I'm going to say is that, and what I'm going to say is that, and I want to be very strong on this, I am not going to be told whether you want to dress it up as anti-Semitism, you want to dress it up as that, that I cannot respond and defend myself.

01:45:13.000 I'm certainly not going to be told that I need to be contained in how I respond after two years of consistent attacks from two individuals.

01:45:21.000 So I want to just say on that point,

01:45:24.000 You and I will never come to an agreement.

01:45:26.000 I stand by everything that I said about him, and I'm not going to have it. 0.89

01:45:30.000 Everything that I say, including yesterday, when he says that me finding the products and stuff that he sells and promotes as a rabbi to be unholy, to say that I'm only saying that because it's made in Israel, is totally ridiculous. 0.71

01:45:44.000 What it looks like to a lot of people, and I'm going to tell you this and I'm expressing this,

01:45:48.000 Not at all.

01:46:04.000 Let me finish my statement.

01:46:05.000 I'm just telling you what I am going, this is my suspicion, and I have tons of Jewish listeners, but given what you've said about Dave Smith, who is a libertarian, he is not a far-left liberal, he just does not support what Israel is doing. 0.69

01:46:15.000 So in this, you have said that Jewish people, you've made comments about a lot of Jewish people who maybe don't agree with what's happening in Israel.

01:46:22.000 You are now saying that a person who's been attacked for two years still needs to be careful in how they approach a Jewish person that's been doing the attacking.

01:46:30.000 No one is going to accept that. 0.99

01:46:32.000 That's ridiculous.

01:46:33.000 And then to say this particular word, it sounds like everything that anybody says, we first need to weigh it against the feelings of somebody and their history. 0.99

01:46:43.000 I could find examples of black people being called witches.

01:46:46.000 I can't then say that nobody can ever call a black person a witch, you know, even if it has what happened in Salem.

01:46:51.000 You could go on and on, right? 0.97

01:46:54.000 But the point is that if you're a black person, you've been attacking for two years. 1.00

01:46:56.000 I don't care if a person calls him a rabbi. 0.96

01:46:58.000 In fact, I would question what it means to be a rabbi.

01:47:00.000 Maybe you can explain if you have been consistently attacking and threatening somebody.

01:47:05.000 Literally, he gave a quote to the Jerusalem Post, which actually I like the Jerusalem Post.

01:47:09.000 They report on things very accurately, in which he says that he wants to bankrupt Candace Owens.

01:47:14.000 That is a direct threat to somebody's livelihood.

01:47:17.000 It is despicable.

01:47:18.000 Guys, you can talk over me all day. 0.95

01:47:18.000 You can scream. 0.95

01:47:19.000 You can defend me.

01:47:44.000 Candace, it's your show.

01:47:45.000 You're going to edit and say what you want to say.

01:47:47.000 I'm not going to edit this whatsoever.

01:47:49.000 I promise you.

01:47:50.000 OK.

01:47:50.000 Great.

01:47:50.000 Terrific.

01:47:51.000 I appreciate that.

01:47:54.000 If someone is attacking you, you can defend yourself.

01:47:58.000 And if someone is saying a bad thing about you, I would even go and defend you as well for them saying that she's a black such and such, she's a female such and such, she's whatever it may be.

01:48:10.000 If he's attacking you, again, I'm not

01:48:13.000 I'm privy to those two years of attacks that you've had.

01:48:18.000 But the moment you start saying things like an unholy rabbi when you do not know a rabbi's job and you don't know Judaism, you don't know what is considered kadosh, what is considered holy or not holy in Judaism, when the moment you make those kind of comments, you've crossed a line.

01:48:35.000 And you didn't need to make them.

01:48:37.000 I get you're angry.

01:48:38.000 I get you feel violated by him.

01:48:40.000 I get you feel that he attacks you unjustifiably.

01:48:43.000 I haven't been part of the discussions, so I think he may have.

01:48:48.000 But that doesn't ever give you, then, the right to say what you said.

01:48:52.000 And it demonstrates, again, a pattern of behavior of an unawareness that you have about Jewish theology, a lack of awareness you have about Jewish history, and about anti-Semitism.

01:49:08.000 The fact that you can't accept

01:49:10.000 What all academics, I shouldn't say all, because everything is academic, but all, but what academics, what Lord Sacks, what theologians all accept about that anti-Semitism is the unique ape that mutates, what Prager has done a PragerU video on, the fact that you can't even accept that is in itself problematic.

01:49:31.000 I just, I think that... Do you understand that you have decided that you, Candace Owens,

01:49:41.000 That's not, that's not what I've said.

01:49:45.000 That's not, I've never said these things.

01:49:46.000 I didn't say I was more knowledgeable than my wife. 0.97

01:49:48.000 I just said, I call his daughter a hag and I meant it. 1.00

01:49:50.000 I'm not taking the words back. 0.98

01:49:52.000 That's what I've said.

01:49:53.000 Can someone do like a cap cut edit of Candace Owens?

01:49:57.000 We got to make a cap cut edit of her where it has like, kind of like the alarm sound.

01:50:03.000 You know what I'm talking about?

01:50:05.000 Someone's got to make a cap cut edit of Candace, like a she's her. 1.00

01:50:10.000 Edit.

01:50:11.000 We gotta get it going viral, man.

01:50:13.000 We need to get her all the way. 1.00

01:50:16.000 I don't know if she ever will go all the way.

01:50:18.000 She's going pretty far for her position. 0.99

01:50:23.000 But... The problem is she's still going like, well, I'm not anti-Semitic and I love my Jewish listeners and I don't like Hitler and, you know, so... She's not her yet, but she's getting there.

01:50:37.000 She's definitely rising.

01:50:38.000 Candace Rising.

01:50:41.000 Does this really go on for another hour?

01:50:43.000 What the what?

01:50:46.000 The fact that you can't accept that the definition of antisemitism, that you think you know the definition better than scholars, academics, Jewish theologians, better than rabbis, is a level of hubris.

01:50:59.000 As I say, you may know all sorts of things about all sorts of topics, but you're now dancing in a field where Shapiro dances, I dance, where

01:51:11.000 Rabbi Shmuley, you know, and I'm trying to tell you that you're repeatedly doing anti-Semitic behavior, but your underlying premise that you said at the beginning of our dialogue was that you don't accept that definition of anti-Semitism.

01:51:25.000 What I said is I don't accept that definitions mutate, is what I said to you at the beginning of this dialogue.

01:51:30.000 And I'm telling you that's the definition of anti-Semitism.

01:51:32.000 You have now said that you know more than Lord Jonathan Sacks, who I believe, I'm gonna guess, actually your father-in-law, because it's not that big of a world there.

01:51:41.000 And you can ask anyone about Lord Sacks.

01:51:45.000 You are now saying that you don't accept the definition.

01:51:48.000 Well, okay.

01:51:48.000 What I'm saying to you is that there's debate even amongst Jewish people about the definition of anti-Semitism, as I pointed to you.

01:51:53.000 No, that's a pretty much accepted one.

01:51:55.000 No, that's a pretty much accepted one that you take. 1.00

01:51:57.000 He's such an asshole, dude. 1.00

01:52:00.000 Such a fucking asshole. 1.00

01:52:02.000 No, that's not true! 1.00

01:52:02.000 You don't want to talk about that. 1.00

01:52:04.000 Yeah, that is- I'll say it again.

01:52:19.000 It mutates because the definition, again I'm using, I'm quoting Lord Sax, directly quoting him, where he says that Jews have, this is his definition, it's pretty much accepted, Jews have no right to exist collectively as Jews with the same rights as other human beings. 0.73

01:52:33.000 Yes, that sounds like a definition.

01:52:35.000 And the reason that it mutates, how that becomes manifest, is because in the Middle Ages, it's about religion.

01:52:43.000 When they come out of the shtetls, 1.00

01:52:45.000 Go into the cosmopolitan areas and in the 18th through 27th or 20th century, excuse me, that hate Man has now manifested and mutated.

01:52:56.000 So it's not about religion.

01:52:57.000 It's about race. 0.53

01:52:58.000 Just so I'm clear, did Lord Sacks say it mutates or are you saying it mutates?

01:53:02.000 I'm sorry, I couldn't hear, I apologize.

01:53:03.000 Did Lord Sacks say it mutates or are you... Lord Sacks.

01:53:07.000 He says it mutates

01:53:09.000 Correct.

01:53:10.000 Can you just re-say the quotation, his direct quotation?

01:53:13.000 That it is a hate that mutates.

01:53:15.000 It is a hate that mutates.

01:53:16.000 It is a virus, he calls it, that mutates.

01:53:18.000 And that he's not alone in that.

01:53:19.000 And then by the time you get to the 20th century, it now has mutated to be anti-the nation.

01:53:27.000 So the hate manifests as first religion, then as race, and now as nation.

01:53:31.000 So would you say that anybody who takes issue with anything that Israel does is an anti-Semite?

01:53:38.000 Of course not. 0.96

01:53:39.000 That's ludicrous. 0.98

01:53:41.000 That's a ludicrous statement. 0.99

01:53:46.000 That's a ludicrous statement. 0.98

01:53:49.000 Okay, I'm glad you said that because earlier when we were talking about Dave Smith and I said that some Jewish people don't agree with what Israel is doing as a nation, you suggested that they were self-hating Jews. 0.94

01:53:57.000 That's not what I suggested.

01:53:58.000 What I said is there's a very difference between supporting Israel and supporting Bibi or the government.

01:54:05.000 There's a huge difference.

01:54:07.000 Support of Israel is to understand, and I think, again, this is a place... Eugene Bishop, who was one of the heads of the Central Conference of American Bishops, a great Catholic leader, said a number of things, and Monsignor Royal Batican, blessed memory, I actually heard him say this.

01:54:25.000 Royal said he was one of the first people to do interfaith dialogue after Vatican II.

01:54:29.000 And Royal said the following.

01:54:31.000 He said that

01:54:33.000 No non-Jew can ever fully understand the relationship between the Jewish people and the land of Israel, in the same way that no Jew can understand how a bunch of old bishops, excuse me, old cardinals, go into a building, white smoke comes out, and suddenly one of them is infallible. 0.96

01:54:50.000 It's a quote from Royal Vatican, blessed remember, one of the founders of interfaith dialogue in the 60s and 70s.

01:54:56.000 What I'm trying to explain to you is our tie to Israel,

01:55:01.000 But when you make an anti-Zionist, not just you, but anyone makes a comment, an anti-Zionist comment, that is anti-Semitism.

01:55:09.000 But when you say anti-Zionist... When you say anti-Zionist, you don't mean criticizing Israel's government.

01:55:18.000 No, you can criticize the government.

01:55:20.000 Okay, so I'm just not... But criticizing... Okay, but there's... Let's go... Can we follow that path for a moment?

01:55:26.000 Because I think this might get us somewhere.

01:55:28.000 As I said from the beginning, I'm optimistic I'd like to get somewhere.

01:55:33.000 To criticize Israel's government is one thing.

01:55:37.000 If you want to do that, great.

01:55:42.000 Especially if you want to criticize America's involvement in its relationship with Israel, you're an American citizen.

01:55:47.000 I'm supportive of that.

01:55:50.000 But, understanding... Have you ever read the Covenant of 1988 for Hamas? 0.73

01:55:56.000 No, I have not read the Covenant of 1988 for Hamas. 0.64

01:55:59.000 So let me tell you about Hamas. 0.90

01:56:02.000 In their charter, which you can find easily online, the Covenant of 1988, they claim that they are a subsidiary for the Grecian of the Muslim Brotherhood.

01:56:13.000 I'm sure you know a lot about it. 0.98

01:56:16.000 And they call for the obliteration of all Jews. 0.98

01:56:20.000 They say in Article 7 that the Muslim Day of Judgment will not come 1.00

01:56:27.000 Until every Jew is killed and those few who still live hide between, and this is a quote, between the rocks behind, excuse me, behind the rocks and the trees, and the trees call out, O Abdullah, O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, I'll kill him. 0.99

01:56:43.000 The definition of a Palestine, which there is no historical Palestine, the definition of a Palestine from the river to the sea, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, 0.99

01:56:55.000 That's kind of cack.

01:56:56.000 The trees, the trees are gonna be tattling.

01:56:58.000 The trees will say, Allah! 0.90

01:57:03.000 There is a Jew hiding behind... 1.00

01:57:06.000 Behind me. 0.94

01:57:10.000 Oh, that's terrible.

01:57:11.000 Just horrible.

01:57:12.000 I cry every day.

01:57:14.000 Meshugganah. 1.00

01:57:15.000 I cry every day.

01:57:18.000 Over the charter for Hamas, where it says the trees will tell God that the Jews are hiding behind them. 0.88

01:57:27.000 I cry every day.

01:57:28.000 Israel.

01:57:30.000 It is, as Lord Saxon said, it is

01:57:35.000 That they don't have a right to live collectively in a nation.

01:57:39.000 And so, it's one thing to say, I don't agree with what the government's doing.

01:57:44.000 It's an entire other thing to create a moral equivalency, which you keep doing inappropriately.

01:57:50.000 A moral equivalency between anything Israel does and what happened October 7th.

01:57:58.000 There is no equivalency. 0.96

01:58:01.000 Israel's not going out to go out and try to go into Arab homes and to take and torture a child in front of the parents and then kill the child and kill the parents. 0.99

01:58:14.000 That's literally what they do. 1.00

01:58:15.000 They're literally murderers.

01:58:18.000 I think we might be having a fundamental disagreement on what moral equivalency is and I tend to agree with Dave Smith that actually what moral equivalency is is saying that irrespective of anything we are going to judge these people the same.

01:58:31.000 That would be morally equivalent, right?

01:58:34.000 But we don't need to go into that because I didn't do any of that and I just totally disagree with how you've characterized my discussion.

01:58:40.000 Because- Because- Because- Because-

01:59:10.000 Well, no, I'm just saying that I do think that when anything, you know, horrific happens, it turns a lot of people into extremists overnight, and they become very extreme in their language.

01:59:25.000 You have, you have not let me finish my statement, okay?

01:59:29.000 I've let you talk very much.

01:59:31.000 What I have said is that when anything happens, what tends to happen after that is people become very extreme in their rhetoric.

01:59:38.000 And actually there is a really good example.

01:59:40.000 Is it Joel over at Braveheart who wrote something very extreme following October 7th online.

01:59:45.000 And then a couple days later, he wrote a long paragraph apologizing and saying why he was emotional, why his rhetoric was extreme, and what he actually wants to accomplish.

01:59:53.000 He recognized his own emotion.

01:59:55.000 And people get very extreme when they're emotional.

01:59:56.000 It's understandable.

01:59:58.000 But when they are in that emotion, they start to perceive other people who are actually saying what they've always said as somehow attacking them or saying something that's wrong, and then usually

02:00:09.000 You know, the scales fall from their eyes, the more distance there is from the actual event that took place, and they're able to hear things more rationally again.

02:00:16.000 That is all that I was saying with Tucker, is I haven't really moved any of my stances whatsoever, and that is why people are bothered.

02:00:24.000 Whether you think that's understandable or not is not going to change things.

02:00:28.000 I do want to get to this though, because like I said, we're not going to agree on Rabbi Shmuley, we're not going to agree on his daughter.

02:00:33.000 We're good to go.

02:00:52.000 What I would say is individuals feeling that, amidst their own communities, let's remove Jews from this. 0.96

02:00:58.000 If a black person does something wrong, I immediately call it out on my show. 1.00

02:01:01.000 I've said tons of things about black people acting like thugs. 1.00

02:01:04.000 I've stood up against black people when they were using racism, basically just to absolve themselves from any critique. 1.00

02:01:10.000 But when it comes to the Jewish community, it's very odd, I think, to watch

02:01:15.000 The indefensible get defended, right?

02:01:17.000 The indefensible get defended.

02:01:18.000 Like what Rabbi Shmuley, what Rabbi Shmuley did over the last two years, I would expect people to come out and say, it's obviously wrong.

02:01:26.000 Instead, what we have is you coming out and saying, well, what Candace is saying in defense of herself is actually what's wrong, rather than saying, maybe both.

02:01:32.000 Maybe saying what Rabbi Shmuley did was absolutely wrong.

02:01:35.000 But you can't take the time to look into what he said for the last two years, is what you're saying.

02:01:40.000 But you wrote this article in defense of him.

02:01:44.000 Candace.

02:01:45.000 This is not about Shmuley, and it was not in defense of him.

02:01:48.000 And I said to you earlier in this talk, if he was saying inappropriate things, he should be reprimanded for that.

02:01:54.000 That's not what you said here in your article, though.

02:01:57.000 This is about you and your pattern of behavior and your pattern of words.

02:02:02.000 And I have no issue.

02:02:06.000 And maybe you should do a little bit more reading of what I've written.

02:02:10.000 You wrote, like any father, Shmuley defends his children when attacked.

02:02:14.000 Wait.

02:02:15.000 I have taken on the unethical behavior of Jewish leaders and Jewish organizations publicly to the detriment of my own life. 1.00

02:02:27.000 I've taken on Jonathan Greenblatt for five years of what he's done to the ADL.

02:02:33.000 I got the receipts to prove it.

02:02:34.000 You can read the articles.

02:02:37.000 Okay?

02:02:37.000 I've exposed him for what he's done that is not right.

02:02:40.000 So when you make a comment

02:02:42.000 Like when someone does something wrong in the Jewish community, the Jewish community doesn't say anything. 0.86

02:02:45.000 How much you want to bet?

02:02:47.000 How much you want to bet that like all Jews, he spoke out against Greenblatt because Greenblatt is supporting left-wing groups that undermine Israel? 0.73

02:02:56.000 How much you want to bet when he says, well, I've been writing about Greenblatt, bro.

02:03:00.000 They hate Greenblatt because Greenblatt is a left-wing partisan at the ADL and has backed American left-wing groups that are critical of Israel, like Ilhan Omar, for example, or certain BLM leaders.

02:03:15.000 How much you want to bet?

02:03:17.000 Whoops!

02:03:19.000 Oops! 0.78

02:03:20.000 Accidentally, I don't know where we were, but let me pull this up.

02:03:30.000 Let's see if we can find some of that.

02:03:33.000 Rabbi Barclay

02:03:53.000 Here we go.

02:03:54.000 Over three years ago, I started writing articles about the evils of BLM, which has always been committed to the destruction of Israel, even having it as part of their manifesto. 0.73

02:04:05.000 I was castigated by other rabbis and Jewish leaders who were adamant that BLM wasn't really anti-Semitic.

02:04:12.000 Reform and conservative rabbis touted BLM and raised hundreds of millions of dollars for this corrupted, evil organization, most of which ended up in the pockets of its leaders. 0.88

02:04:21.000 Most egregiously of all, the ADL under Jonathan Greenblatt has fully supported BLM throughout these past years.

02:04:33.000 Under Greenblatt's leadership, the ADL shifted from fighting anti-Semitism to being a tool and mouthpiece for the leftist BLM Marxist agenda.

02:04:41.000 And Greenblatt needs to make it right.

02:04:43.000 Judaism demands we rectify our mistakes with actions, not just words.

02:04:49.000 Okay, so it's always, they'll only ever criticize Jews if they're anti-Israel.

02:04:54.000 They'll only ever be against Jews if they do something that's against Israel.

02:04:58.000 Never if they do anything else wrong.

02:05:02.000 So that's like saying, oh I criticize black people all the time because I called Ben Carson and Uncle Tom once, you know? 0.99

02:05:13.000 I don't have a bias.

02:05:15.000 I'm not an ethnic supremacist.

02:05:17.000 I'm black and I can criticize black people all the time. 0.99

02:05:20.000 I call Larry Elder and Ben Carson Uncle Toms because they're not pro-black enough. 1.00

02:05:25.000 That obviously is not what she means.

02:05:32.000 100% correct on that, by the way.

02:05:33.000 You see that comparison in how you are presenting people despite the fact that, factually speaking, Rabbi Shmuley and his daughter were the ones attacking me for two years straight.

02:05:40.000 I didn't even know who they were.

02:05:42.000 When you talk about, when you speak about me like that and make it seem like I'm, I'm sorry, let me use your words here, lack of knowledge or lack of wisdom, how do you think the public perceives that when I'm the one that's being attacked?

02:05:53.000 I'm not concerned about how the public perceives you or not.

02:05:55.000 What I'm concerned about is if you believe, and I cannot judge this because I'm not aware of two years, I don't follow you.

02:06:04.000 Okay?

02:06:04.000 Just my life is too busy.

02:06:06.000 I got a congregation and teenagers and all sorts of things.

02:06:10.000 If you believe that Shmuley Boteach and his daughter are doing things that are attacking you on a personal level, not attacking your persona, not attacking what you do, I'm not calling you as anti-Semite, is attacking you for how you act, not attacking you as a human being.

02:06:30.000 Please understand there is a difference of who we are and how we are.

02:06:33.000 She dropped out of college.

02:06:34.000 Wait, please let me finish.

02:06:35.000 Shmuley is attacking you.

02:06:38.000 If he is attacking you on any personal way,

02:06:41.000 That doesn't mean it's okay for you to attack him.

02:06:44.000 You know better than that.

02:06:46.000 Wow, wow. 0.70

02:06:49.000 They're so evil.

02:06:51.000 She goes, yeah, he's been attacking me for two years.

02:06:54.000 Yeah, but you can't attack him back.

02:06:56.000 You know better than that. 1.00

02:06:57.000 You know better than that, you dumb boy. 1.00

02:07:00.000 You don't know anything about our religion. 1.00

02:07:03.000 If he was attacking you, then, well, that's something, but you can't attack him back. 0.98

02:07:10.000 They're so rotten. 0.98

02:07:12.000 No, I actually, everything I'm saying about it, I'm like, if this is holy, like, you know, selling butt plugs with your daughter, I don't know. 0.99

02:07:19.000 You're right. 0.98

02:07:20.000 I think it's gross.

02:07:21.000 I think it's disgusting. 0.93

02:07:22.000 And I do not, it's not the definition of holy in the Christian faith is what I would say. 0.54

02:07:27.000 It's weird to me.

02:07:28.000 It's very weird.

02:07:29.000 And this could be a difference in our religions, but by the way, your religion does not trump my religion.

02:07:33.000 So I think that you should respect that when I say it's unholy.

02:07:36.000 I am referring to my religion.

02:07:39.000 His relationship between him and his daughter is very creepy to me. 0.97

02:07:43.000 The sex podcast is very creepy to me.

02:07:45.000 The idea of sitting down and talking to your father about topics of sex in any regard is creepy to me. 0.99

02:07:51.000 Him promoting butt plugs that are sold by his daughter is creepy to me. 0.98

02:07:54.000 I have a right to say that I find this to be utterly unholy and that any faith leader 1.00

02:07:59.000 At least in the Christian community would agree that all of this is giving us very weird vibes between the father and daughter relationship. 0.50

02:08:07.000 You're weird!

02:08:07.000 I can say that all I want.

02:08:08.000 And I do think that part of it, and this is where we get to the topic of where people perceive this and they say, is this a form of Jew supremacy?

02:08:16.000 To say, suspend your Christianity because my Judaism matters more is the feeling that I get when you say, you don't get to say it's an unholy rabbi. 0.97

02:08:24.000 Pornography is unholy in my view. 0.97

02:08:28.000 You might disagree with that.

02:08:30.000 It is unholy. 0.92

02:08:31.000 To Christians, the topic of pornography, peddling pornography, selling butt plugs, you know, the commercialization of pornography is unholy, and I'm going to continue to call him unholy because that is what I deem him to be, and I say that as a Christian. 1.00

02:08:46.000 Okay, so Candace, if you made the comment, right, and you said that this man, rabbi or not rabbi, because it doesn't matter if he's a rabbi or not from what you're telling me, you're understanding your theology.

02:08:59.000 Okay?

02:09:00.000 Your understanding of your Christian theology, I don't know what denomination or sect you're part of, is that what he's doing is unholy. 0.86

02:09:09.000 And for you to say that, from my Christian perspective, what this man is doing is unholy, I absolutely respect. 1.00

02:09:19.000 For you to say my position as a mother, as a woman, I find what is going on here is creepy, I don't find that anti-Semitic.

02:09:29.000 Mislead us to either of those comments.

02:09:31.000 I really don't.

02:09:34.000 So please hear that.

02:09:36.000 If you'd said, this guy is creepy, okay, that's not anti-Semitic, that's your opinion on the relationship of what he's doing.

02:09:43.000 If you said, this business that he and his daughter, I don't know if it's he and his daughter or just his daughter, I'd have to combine their business, I have no idea.

02:09:53.000 But that this business is, from my Christian perspective, is very unholy. 1.00

02:09:59.000 That's not anti-Semitic.

02:10:02.000 It's not.

02:10:03.000 I mean, here, if you had said that, I wouldn't be talking about it.

02:10:07.000 But I shouldn't have to say, as a Christian, because I am a Christian and it's unholy. 1.00

02:10:12.000 Okay, no, you said, you determined, you who are not a theologian, who does not know Jewish theology at all, and I'm pretty sure doesn't know what Gebarah or Mishnah are or how they're used, or the dialogues about marriage and intimacy,

02:10:27.000 You've decided he's unholy.

02:10:30.000 Now, if you said, from my Christian perspective, he's an unholy man, or he's doing unholy things, God bless you, and I'm fine with it. 1.00

02:10:36.000 But you didn't.

02:10:37.000 You said it's an unholy rabbi and his had-dog. 0.98

02:10:42.000 And again, what I was really hoping to hear, which I haven't heard from you once in this very long talk, is the realization of saying, you know what, rabbi?

02:10:53.000 I hadn't thought about that.

02:10:55.000 You're right.

02:10:56.000 I understand how that would be considered anti-Semitic and that wasn't my intention.

02:11:00.000 I have a problem.

02:11:01.000 Now say, you're right, Rabbi.

02:11:03.000 Now say it, say it, say, you know what?

02:11:06.000 You're right, Rabbi.

02:11:08.000 That was anti-Semitic. 0.99

02:11:09.000 I was stupid coy and I didn't think of that. 1.00

02:11:12.000 I have a problem. 1.00

02:11:14.000 I've seen zero so far.

02:11:16.000 Other than the fact that you say you're willing to watch a documentary film by the idea.

02:11:20.000 I've seen zero self-responsibility of saying, you know what, I didn't mean that, I didn't say that, or excuse me, I didn't mean that, that's not my intention, and I'm sorry.

02:11:32.000 I haven't heard that from you once.

02:11:34.000 And that's really disappointing to me.

02:11:40.000 Well, I don't want you to be disappointed.

02:11:41.000 And as I always say to people, I know I'm serious.

02:11:44.000 Look at this. 0.99

02:11:45.000 Look at this ugly face. 1.00

02:11:47.000 Look at this disgusting, ugly face. 1.00

02:11:49.000 I don't want you to be disappointed. 1.00

02:11:50.000 I understand that human beings...

02:11:53.000 Literally emotions.

02:11:54.000 Things have a lot of feelings, right?

02:11:56.000 Everybody has, you can say, I watched this and this is how I felt about it.

02:11:59.000 For me, the reality of what I have actually said, and the way that it is being interpreted, I don't think is fair.

02:12:05.000 Like, that's why I wanted to go through the clips of what you said, what you wrote that I said, versus what I actually said.

02:12:11.000 What she's doing is so wonderful.

02:12:13.000 She's beautiful.

02:12:14.000 She's smart.

02:12:16.000 She's sharp.

02:12:17.000 She's put together.

02:12:18.000 Patient.

02:12:20.000 God bless her. 1.00

02:12:23.000 A hero!

02:12:23.000 She's a true hero.

02:12:25.000 She's really putting a lot on the line here.

02:12:27.000 She's putting a lot at stake and a lot on the line and risking a lot to do this. 0.96

02:12:35.000 So God bless her. 1.00

02:12:36.000 You said, when I did condemn Hamas, you're saying I didn't condemn Hamas. 0.90

02:12:40.000 You're saying I attacked Ben Shapiro.

02:12:41.000 You don't have the clip available.

02:12:44.000 I feel that actually what's happening here is you want me to apologize for things that I never said on the basis of how you felt

02:12:53.000 And that's not fair.

02:12:53.000 I have a suggestion.

02:12:55.000 Okay.

02:12:55.000 I have a suggestion.

02:12:56.000 Okay.

02:12:57.000 You and I are both politically conservative, right?

02:12:59.000 I mean, I am, and I know you are.

02:13:02.000 And I would hope that we're all facing the same direct way.

02:13:06.000 I'd like to ask you some specific questions about the things in that article.

02:13:10.000 And you just tell me.

02:13:12.000 Okay.

02:13:13.000 And so if I misinterpreted something, if I misread something, if I misheard something, do you feel I misunderstood something?

02:13:20.000 You know, communication.

02:13:21.000 It happens, especially when we're doing writing.

02:13:24.000 Miscommunication happens.

02:13:26.000 So I'm going to ask you simple questions that would define anti-Semitism with the vast majority of rabbis, Jews, and theologians.

02:13:35.000 Do you believe October 7th was uniquely evil and on a whole other level than anything going on, especially anything going on in Gaza or anything else right now?

02:13:47.000 From a moral, ethical, your point of view as a Christian,

02:13:50.000 I am asking you, point blank, do you feel that October 7th, what happened, is uniquely at a whole other level and depth of evil?

02:14:00.000 Yes or no?

02:14:01.000 I believe that what happened on October 7th is evil.

02:14:03.000 Do you believe it is a whole other level than anything else, especially what is going on in Gaza?

02:14:10.000 No.

02:14:10.000 I think that there have been things that have happened historically, like the Holocaust, like what the Bolsheviks did to Christians.

02:14:18.000 W!

02:14:18.000 You're not answering.

02:14:21.000 I'm trying to answer your question.

02:14:22.000 I guess I would like you to explain to me, in your own context, Holocaust versus what happened on October 7th.

02:14:29.000 Why is October 7th uniquely evil compared to the Holocaust? 0.87

02:14:32.000 Maybe you can educate me.

02:14:35.000 You don't know your history about the Holocaust then.

02:14:38.000 The Holocaust was a machine that was made and cost Germany the war. 0.98

02:14:43.000 So you would say October 7th?

02:14:46.000 October 7th was a specific intention.

02:14:50.000 Remember that in the Holocaust, the first attacks are war attacks because it's all about a war effort on world domination. 0.87

02:14:57.000 October 7th is about to torture and

02:15:03.000 Do such horrific things to civilians, to the weak, the innocent, the old.

02:15:11.000 So I'm asking you a very simple question.

02:15:16.000 I'm ready to answer it.

02:15:18.000 I think it was evil.

02:15:19.000 And you know, if you, if you feel it's uniquely bombed a million Iraqi civilians, you're talking about just like if you're weighing against civilian costs.

02:15:26.000 And again, I think what, how you said about when you read the, you know, you watch the passion of the Christ and you have, you know, your eyes when you watch and I have my Christian eyes, very difficult for me to say when the greatest Holocaust that ever happened was against Christians and with the Bolsheviks surrounding us in barges. 0.67

02:15:40.000 Yes!

02:15:41.000 Yes!

02:15:41.000 W. W is in the shot.

02:15:42.000 W is in the shot.

02:15:58.000 It's evil.

02:16:02.000 I want to recognize it, but I don't want to sit here and pretend that I've minimized what I've been through.

02:16:11.000 I mean, unique evils, slavery, I'm a black woman.

02:16:13.000 I mean, there's tons of things that have happened, and I don't want to pretend that I think that when it happens to Jews, it's somehow more unique than when it happens to other groups around the world.

02:16:22.000 And what about slavery?

02:16:26.000 Do you believe there is a qualitative difference between what was done on October 7th and the horrible tragedies that are going on in Gaza with children being used as human shields and dying with and being killed with all of that?

02:16:41.000 There are tragedies going on in Gaza we both agree on. 0.97

02:16:44.000 Do you believe that there is a radical difference between what happened October 7th

02:16:53.000 Let's go!

02:16:53.000 Do you believe?

02:16:55.000 Okay, so I want to make sure I'm hearing you.

02:17:16.000 Okay, I don't want to misinterpret you.

02:17:18.000 I am asking for specific answers.

02:17:20.000 It is always an evil, and I again say this as a Christian, it is always an evil when innocent children are killed. 1.00

02:17:26.000 Always an evil.

02:17:26.000 So do you believe that October 7th is more evil than what's happening?

02:17:30.000 No!

02:17:30.000 I didn't... Pardon?

02:17:32.000 I'm asking you.

02:17:33.000 What?

02:17:34.000 I'm asking you the simple question, do you believe there's a greater depth of evil in what happened October 7th than any of the tragedies that are happening in Dallas this week?

02:17:42.000 Let me actually toss this back to you because this is a great question.

02:17:46.000 No, no, no, no.

02:17:47.000 This is a great question.

02:17:48.000 I'm glad you asked this, but I want to toss this to you because one of the things that was also radically misinterpreted, actually I was talking about Brian Mass in his language when he said that

02:17:59.000 You know, there's no such thing as an innocent Palestinian life. 1.00

02:18:01.000 I thought that was horrifically genocidal to say that.

02:18:04.000 And that has been a huge conflict of whether or not what's happening is genocidal or if it's not genocidal.

02:18:10.000 And something that I don't think that we have a clear definition on is genocide.

02:18:15.000 And this is, obviously the word was created post-Holocaust.

02:18:19.000 And so I would just like to get from you because we're running, because we are running out of time.

02:18:23.000 So I'm not, I'm not trying to duck.

02:18:27.000 I don't use the word.

02:18:28.000 You don't use the word genocide?

02:18:30.000 Nope.

02:18:30.000 So you wouldn't describe the Holocaust as a genocide?

02:18:33.000 Um, I would describe it in other ways.

02:18:35.000 It's just not the language I use.

02:18:36.000 So for me to say that this is a definition would be arrogant and inappropriate.

02:18:41.000 But what percentage of a certain group of people have to die that would constitute a genocide?

02:18:47.000 Because I think that's part of it.

02:18:49.000 Listen, if we can just say X amount of people, percentage of people dying of the same ethnic group.

02:18:55.000 Candace, you don't, I'm telling you point blank.

02:18:59.000 You're asking me to define a term that I don't go around utilizing.

02:19:05.000 People are saying in the live chat that he's used it before.

02:19:07.000 Is that true?

02:19:14.000 Let me see if I can find it.

02:19:31.000 Is there a... Someone sent me this link.

02:19:36.000 From Human Events.

02:19:39.000 Will Chamberlain, Jewish-owned.

02:19:44.000 Palestine does not exist except as code for genocide. 0.98

02:19:47.000 How many times can we find it in this article?

02:19:50.000 Three times.

02:19:53.000 By Michael Barclay.

02:19:55.000 Calls for the genocide of Israel.

02:19:59.000 Okay, so that's just a lie.

02:20:04.000 So he's used it before that's just a straight-up lie.

02:20:07.000 Oh, I'd ever say genocide does So I so I don't you're telling you're saying define this and what I'm saying is I don't use that term

02:20:20.000 I am asking you a very simple question, which you have avoided a yes or no on.

02:20:23.000 I haven't avoided a yes or no on anything.

02:20:25.000 I've been answering you this entire time.

02:20:27.000 I am just saying that if the consequence, for me, I cannot, like, what happened October 7th to me was so horrific and was so evil, and it partially, the reason why I believed it was so horrific and so evil was there was no military target.

02:20:42.000 You were just targeting civilians, and civilians are innocent, right? 0.99

02:20:45.000 And so for you to then tell me, is it more or less evil when now innocent civilians... What is the number at?

02:20:54.000 Can you tell me what the number is at of Palestinian children?

02:20:56.000 No, I can't because Hamas stories aren't... I know, but I'm asking you. 0.98

02:20:59.000 I'm not asking Hamas, I'm asking you. 0.99

02:21:01.000 I'm asking, I'm asking, when you're asking me to compare, compare, what you're actually asking me to do is to compare, is to state whether or not I believe.

02:21:10.000 Please let me finish.

02:21:13.000 I feel that that question, okay, is you trying to make a statement.

02:21:19.000 I believe, I believe that what happened on October 7th is a uniquely dark form of evil.

02:21:28.000 On a whole other level, on a whole other level in every way, shape, or form of evil than anything that is happening in God's.

02:21:36.000 Do you agree with my statement or disagree?

02:21:39.000 I don't need explanations.

02:21:40.000 Do you agree with me or disagree?

02:21:42.000 I have said to you a thousand times, I feel like what you are asking me to do right now, I'm looking at the cost of life.

02:21:48.000 This is how I analyze things.

02:21:50.000 You can't agree.

02:21:51.000 You're not going to agree with me.

02:21:52.000 I am uncomfortable with the amount of innocent life that is lost right now in Gaza. 0.88

02:21:57.000 So you're not going to agree with me.

02:22:01.000 Let's move on.

02:22:02.000 There's other stuff.

02:22:03.000 Because there's another piece in that article.

02:22:04.000 Because part of it feels like you want me to weigh, like, is Jewish innocent life worth more than Palestinian innocent life?

02:22:10.000 And I'm not comfortable with that.

02:22:12.000 You've already made that clear that you don't view it the same, or you'd be able to say that we have not.

02:22:16.000 I view innocent life as innocent life.

02:22:18.000 Like I'm saying, it's just innocent life lost.

02:22:21.000 Candace, you've made it clear you weren't able to answer yes to that question.

02:22:24.000 Fine.

02:22:25.000 Let's move on to something else that is even more important.

02:22:27.000 No, no, no.

02:22:28.000 But I want to, again, state- No, no, no.

02:22:29.000 I don't need more.

02:22:30.000 You've made it so clear, you're good.

02:22:32.000 I'm good.

02:22:33.000 He's so rude.

02:22:34.000 That's how they are, though.

02:22:35.000 Candace, that's not what I said.

02:22:59.000 No, I made a statement of my beliefs and only asked you if you could agree or disagree, you couldn't take a stand.

02:23:05.000 I'd like to move to something else in that article that we have not discussed, because I am conscious of time, which is, you make a comment in, again, and I think you do want to discuss this as well, I'm going to guess, and I want to be conscious of your time, because I think it's important.

02:23:22.000 You said where you stand on October 7th.

02:23:24.000 That's fine.

02:23:26.000 You stand where you stand. 1.00

02:23:27.000 You're stupid after a while. 1.00

02:23:29.000 You make a comment in your comments back to Shmueli Boteach about, and again, you make an equivalency where you talk about the Hollywood Jewish gangs, that Kanye West believes that, and that shouldn't we be able to talk about that? 1.00

02:23:50.000 And you make the analogy with Crips and Bloods, and I make the comment how anti-Semitic this is because it's a trope,

02:23:59.000 It goes back almost 100 years.

02:24:03.000 There was it to end how Jews control Hollywood. 1.00

02:24:06.000 In the 20s, the Hollywood entertainment industry was started by a majority of them.

02:24:10.000 People's CEOs were Jews. 0.92

02:24:12.000 They couldn't get jobs in anything, any other business when they came to this country. 1.00

02:24:15.000 Many of them were sons of rabbis.

02:24:17.000 And there's a truth, there's a great book called Empire of Their Own, how the entertainment industry was started by Jews. 0.74

02:24:24.000 And how they did control Hollywood in the early days, they employed other Jews who were unemployable. 0.93

02:24:29.000 That stops by the 60s and 70s and is totally gone by the 80s and 90s.

02:24:33.000 Okay?

02:24:35.000 And it is gone.

02:24:36.000 It is a trope that people say, understand that when we go back, remember we talked about the blood, the blood libel?

02:24:42.000 Blood libel has become a term that's understood by academics, anthropologists, socialists, not political, but social anthropologists.

02:24:51.000 The blood libel is when you're blaming Jews for the problems of people that, other people, that you're radically blaming them for because of the anti-semitism as a form of anti-semitism.

02:25:04.000 For many decades, you were told, oh, the Jews control Hollywood.

02:25:09.000 The secret cabal, they control Hollywood.

02:25:13.000 You perpetuated that.

02:25:14.000 Again, I understand you're defending against Rumi Botath.

02:25:17.000 I understand that you've explained yourself about Rabbi Shmuel.

02:25:21.000 But you made the specific comments about this Jewish group, I think you call them gangs or thugs, as opposed to saying that there are people who run Hollywood who are bad people.

02:25:39.000 I'm not going to question whether there are or are not.

02:25:41.000 Oh brother.

02:25:42.000 But you identified the noun to their adjective they're acting badly as a Jew. 0.99

02:25:49.000 When the reality is that 0.77

02:25:51.000 Jews don't control home. 0.92

02:25:53.000 There may be many executives who are Jews, but that doesn't mean that they are anything other than Jew in name only.

02:25:59.000 They go to the temple twice a year.

02:26:00.000 You and I both know Christians like that, right? 0.98

02:26:04.000 Yes.

02:26:05.000 So I just... We both know them like that, right?

02:26:07.000 And I wouldn't judge a Christian.

02:26:09.000 I would not judge Christians based on the idea that some of those guys who don't really practice Christianity, as my friends who are pastors define it,

02:26:17.000 I'm not Christian. 0.83

02:26:18.000 That people call themselves Christians but don't act in a Christian way. 0.52

02:26:21.000 I would never use the noun of Christians.

02:26:25.000 Whether these people, their mothers were Jewish or not, you perpetuated an anti-Semitic trope that is almost a century old.

02:26:33.000 And as opposed to saying, there's some bad guys who are doing bad things, and when they're called out about it, they hide behind a call of anti-Semitism.

02:26:44.000 That's a very different kind of statement that you could have said.

02:26:48.000 As opposed to talking about the Hollywood Jews.

02:26:50.000 The Jews controlling Hollywood. 1.00

02:26:52.000 That whole thing.

02:26:53.000 It's not never fine.

02:27:12.000 It's not ever been fun.

02:27:14.000 I'm just saying I like it this was something this has been said and it's actually funny because I was reading a very old article yesterday forgetting the guy's name I'm blanking on him but he's he was the founder of screw magazine he's a Jewish guy Al Al something I'm blanking on his name anyways he gave a very long interview about how you know the Jews hire the Jews and they get into Hollywood and like I said this was said not a hundred years ago

02:27:36.000 So this is something that many Jewish people have said, but sure, I guess you're saying that now it's a trope, but I just want to be clear that many Jewish people have said this in many interviews within the last 50 years, okay?

02:27:49.000 Now, I do want to press pause on that and ask you a question.

02:27:53.000 Is it possible for Jewish people to form a gang, full stop? 1.00

02:27:58.000 Define gang. 0.85

02:27:59.000 To form a gang.

02:28:01.000 I mean, let me rephrase that, because I don't even need to ask that question.

02:28:05.000 The answer is of course there is, because there were Jewish gangs in New York. 0.75

02:28:07.000 Okay, yes, of course.

02:28:08.000 Common sense, that Jewish people can form a gang, black people can form a gang, gangs exist, will always exist, Jewish gangs have existed and will always exist. 0.94

02:28:15.000 Like, you know, worldwide, gangs happen.

02:28:19.000 How absurd it is to say that if you think that there is a gang that is operating, to even suggest that there might be a person in the gang, that is automatically a trope.

02:28:28.000 That would mean it would be impossible for us to illustrate.

02:28:31.000 As soon as you say it's a trope and magically you can't talk about it.

02:28:35.000 I gave examples of multiple people in Hollywood, okay?

02:28:39.000 We're talking about from Dave Chappelle to Kanye West to Cat Williams to other artists that are Christian that have said that there is some sort of a gang full stop that is operating in Hollywood.

02:28:51.000 I then gave an example of a list of exact names that Michael Jackson said were operating as a gang.

02:28:59.000 Rabbi Shmuley was among that list of people.

02:29:03.000 So to say that we can't even explore that possibility, that Rabbi Shmuley, you know, and that this list that somebody is giving or something that artists are saying might be true is somehow anti-Semitic, I'm not saying all Jewish people are gang members.

02:29:19.000 I am saying that it is, of course, possible that a gang is operating anywhere in the world.

02:29:24.000 That should just be allowed to be said without being accused of creating a trope.

02:29:27.000 I'm sorry, Candace, again,

02:29:32.000 We're at the same place that we started at.

02:29:36.000 Of when I said to you, I don't get to tell a black man if he's feeling racist.

02:29:41.000 I don't get to tell a woman if you're experiencing this.

02:29:43.000 Oh my gosh.

02:29:44.000 I keep telling you that the things you have said repeatedly are hurtful to a huge number of people.

02:29:55.000 You're hurting our feelings.

02:29:57.000 Stop saying we control Hollywood.

02:29:58.000 And instead of hearing any, wow,

02:30:01.000 I didn't realize that.

02:30:03.000 All I have heard for the lengthy time we've been on, we've been on together, which I, again, consider gracious and kind of you, but all I have heard from you, not one sense of responsibility, not one.

02:30:16.000 You know, I said to you that if something is true or not true, I don't have issues saying I'm wrong.

02:30:22.000 I don't have issues.

02:30:23.000 Apologize.

02:30:24.000 But I haven't heard from you one sense of responsibility that you have

02:30:31.000 Absolutely not.

02:30:33.000 You heard it!

02:30:33.000 You heard our feelings!

02:30:56.000 You did.

02:30:58.000 You have.

02:30:59.000 You continue to.

02:30:59.000 Only you don't want to.

02:31:01.000 Then realize that what you're saying is

02:31:08.000 It taps into centuries-old hate. 1.00

02:31:11.000 Oh, shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:31:12.000 I'm just going to tell you that when I am speaking, I get what you are saying, I get what you are saying, but I'm going to tell you what this is reminiscent to me of. 1.00

02:31:20.000 This is reminiscent of when... So you can't just say I'm sorry?

02:31:23.000 Listen, please just let me finish my statement.

02:31:24.000 We're not sorry.

02:31:25.000 This is reminiscent to me of when I got interested about BLM and I... Leave us alone!

02:31:29.000 Leave me and Candace alone! 1.00

02:31:31.000 We're not sorry!

02:31:33.000 Back away from her! 1.00

02:31:34.000 Leave her alone. 1.00

02:31:35.000 I thought that there was corruption in BLM.

02:31:36.000 I'm a white knight for Candace Owens.

02:31:40.000 I will be her white knight.

02:31:41.000 I will be her white knight in white shining armor.

02:31:45.000 She will be my black queen. 0.99

02:31:46.000 People all over America were crying, insisting on the BLM narrative and I thought that there was corruption and that this was operating like a... Is this disgusting pervert bothering you, Candace? 0.99

02:31:56.000 I don't 0.98

02:32:12.000 That is just disingenuous.

02:32:34.000 That's not an apology.

02:32:35.000 And that's not what it's supposed to be.

02:32:36.000 And the fact is that it's an anti-semitic talk.

02:32:51.000 Okay, well I'm not blaming Jewish people for that at all.

02:32:53.000 So I just want to be very clear.

02:32:55.000 That is an anti-Semitic trope that has led to all sorts of horrible things.

02:33:00.000 What did it lead to in Hollywood?

02:33:02.000 I'm telling you, as someone who knows this, and by the way, again, maybe you should read what I was writing about BLM.

02:33:09.000 Because you and I were on the same page.

02:33:10.000 Okay, and did you also get called racist and people calling you all sorts of names that maybe weren't true because you thought BLM was just actually corrupt?

02:33:19.000 I actually took them on about the fact that all lives matter.

02:33:23.000 My house was vandalized four times.

02:33:25.000 And that was considered racist at that time.

02:33:26.000 So would you have been right to revoke that and apologize to black people because they said that that was racist?

02:33:31.000 Here's the thing.

02:33:34.000 No one sat there and said, you're a racist about it.

02:33:36.000 They did.

02:33:38.000 They said all lives matter.

02:33:41.000 They said all sorts of things.

02:33:42.000 And I got death threats.

02:33:43.000 And as I say, my house was vandalized four times.

02:33:45.000 Oh, really?

02:33:46.000 Let me guess.

02:33:47.000 They drew swastikas on your house?

02:33:49.000 What you doing, Rabbi?

02:33:51.000 They defaced my house with anti-Semitic symbols. 1.00

02:33:56.000 These people are ridiculous. 1.00

02:33:58.000 Who buys this anymore? 1.00

02:33:59.000 Who is watching this and on the Rabbi side? 0.99

02:34:02.000 That's what I want to know.

02:34:04.000 Who still finds any of this convincing?

02:34:07.000 I called for a strike of MLB on PJ Media of Major League Baseball the day that they decided to put BLM on Major League Baseball. 0.86

02:34:14.000 And if someone said to me,

02:34:16.000 You know what?

02:34:16.000 You're playing into a stereotype that goes back centuries old of fill in the blank.

02:34:23.000 I would have rewritten something.

02:34:25.000 I would have said, I'm sorry.

02:34:27.000 Okay.

02:34:27.000 I am telling you with absolute authority that what you are saying about Hollywood is anti-Semitic.

02:34:37.000 Boy, they.

02:34:37.000 There's not a, this is what theologians, this is constant and it is an expression of a blood libel going back to 1144.

02:34:47.000 You're saying, well, I don't mean to hurt someone.

02:34:50.000 Okay.

02:34:51.000 If I apologize to you, my apology would be, gee, I apologize.

02:34:57.000 I'm sorry for what I did.

02:34:59.000 I'm sorry.

02:35:00.000 I'm not.

02:35:01.000 I'm sorry for how you feel.

02:35:04.000 I'm sorry, Rabbi.

02:35:06.000 Now you say it.

02:35:07.000 Say it.

02:35:08.000 Say, I'm sorry, Rabbi.

02:35:10.000 I genuinely am sorry if you interpreted my suspicions.

02:35:15.000 I genuinely am sorry if you interpreted my suspicion about a gang operating Hollywood to be some sort of a condemnation of all Jews.

02:35:21.000 It's actually the exact opposite, which is why I specifically named... I'm telling you that... Are you going to let me speak?

02:35:29.000 What?

02:35:45.000 Pretend that I don't think that Rabbi Shmuley operates like a thug, and I'm going to withhold me stating that, clearly, because you're saying, well, that leans into an anti-Semitic trope.

02:35:55.000 Him being Jewish doesn't mean anything to me.

02:35:57.000 Him acting like a thug and making threats against my life and livelihood is something that... Okay, then why did you call him Rabbi Shmuley?

02:36:04.000 I did say Rabbi Shmuley.

02:36:05.000 I did say Rabbi Shmuley.

02:36:07.000 Do I have time out?

02:36:08.000 Because you just said something, okay, that is really beautiful if you walked that talk.

02:36:15.000 You just said, him being Jewish, him being a rabbi, doesn't have anything to do with him being a thug.

02:36:20.000 I said that on my episode too, about the bugs in the cribs.

02:36:22.000 Wait, wait, wait.

02:36:24.000 I don't watch your episodes, Candace, forgive me.

02:36:27.000 How can you write these articles and then say, I'm sorry, I didn't watch it? 0.96

02:36:29.000 That is completely ridiculous.

02:36:32.000 So you get to write articles and libel me, but then say I didn't watch the episode? 0.96

02:36:37.000 Exactly.

02:36:37.000 And he says it so condescendingly, so cocky.

02:36:41.000 Remember, I don't watch your show.

02:36:43.000 Oh yeah, you just write articles trashing her. 1.00

02:36:45.000 Leave her alone! 1.00

02:36:46.000 Get your filthy paws off of her! 1.00

02:36:48.000 You wrote a whole section on the episode. 0.99

02:36:51.000 I watch the clips that you do. 0.93

02:36:53.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

02:36:55.000 Get your hands off of her, beautiful, supple black skin. 1.00

02:36:59.000 Leave her alone! 1.00

02:37:01.000 I'll protect you.

02:37:03.000 I'll protect you, Candace.

02:37:06.000 The Groipers, we got your back. 0.92

02:37:08.000 If they try to come around and mess with you, you just give us a call.

02:37:15.000 And no rabbi will put their hands on Candace Owens. 0.92

02:37:18.000 Not while I'm around.

02:37:21.000 They're gonna have to go through me first!

02:37:44.000 I specifically, in that episode of Bloods and Crips, said that being Jewish is being used as a seal.

02:37:48.000 It has nothing to do with the fact that they're Jewish whatsoever.

02:37:51.000 But you kept calling him a rabbi.

02:37:53.000 And the simple reality is, if you really believe, okay, that Shmueli Boteach is doing something wrong.

02:38:00.000 He's operating on his thoughts.

02:38:03.000 Which I hear you believe.

02:38:04.000 If you believe that he is acting in whatever way, okay, calling him out on that?

02:38:12.000 God bless you.

02:38:14.000 But when you take it to the place of putting unholy rabbi, because that's your definition, when you take it to the place of him being a... If he's a jerk to you, he's a jerk to you. 1.00

02:38:27.000 It doesn't matter if he's a rabbi, a priest, Jewish, or whatever, right? 1.00

02:38:31.000 So why bring up the rabbi and Jewish part?

02:38:33.000 Well, first off, that's he goes by Rabbi Shmuley, so that just isn't... Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:38:37.000 But wait, I'm not... But why bring up... If someone's being a jerk to you,

02:38:45.000 It doesn't matter if they're white, black, purple, Jewish, Catholic, or anything else, they're being a jerk. 1.00

02:38:52.000 OK. 1.00

02:38:52.000 So all we ever need to do is call them out for being a jerk. 1.00

02:38:55.000 I didn't say Rabbi Shmuley is being a jerk to me because he's Jewish. 1.00

02:38:58.000 I just called him Rabbi Shmuley because that's what he goes by. 0.90

02:39:00.000 We are running out of time, so I do want to give you just a full minute here to wrap up and to express to people how you feel about this issue, because I think that's really important.

02:39:10.000 Look, first of all, I appreciate that you wanted to have a dialogue in any form.

02:39:16.000 I'm extremely sad, and I'm a little bit optimistic. 0.98

02:39:19.000 Shut up. 0.95

02:39:19.000 I'm optimistic that maybe you and I can have a dialogue after you watch October 7th. 0.95

02:39:23.000 Shut up. 0.99

02:39:24.000 Don't watch it. 1.00

02:39:24.000 Don't watch the movie. 1.00

02:39:26.000 I can do with Skylar, your producer.

02:39:30.000 And put him in the right context to arrange it for me.

02:39:33.000 And if you really watch it, I'd be very interested in your reaction.

02:39:39.000 I'm a little bit optimistic about that.

02:39:41.000 I am severely disappointed that we have spent however long, and I do appreciate the time, however long together, I think over an hour probably, right?

02:39:52.000 And I do appreciate that.

02:39:54.000 I am extremely disappointed that I did not once hear, I'd like to give you a concept called Shubba in Judaism.

02:40:05.000 Shubba means that when you've done something wrong, you recognize you did it wrong, you apologize for doing it, try and fix it, you don't do it again.

02:40:12.000 Makes for a healthy society.

02:40:15.000 And I am extremely, extremely disappointed that not once in our conversation did I hear you take responsibility for what you said.

02:40:23.000 You have taken responsibility.

02:40:24.000 I'm sorry if that made you feel that way.

02:40:26.000 I'm extremely disappointed that you have decided you have a clearer definition of anti-Semitism than Sachs, myself, Ben Shapiro, etc.

02:40:39.000 Going back, scholars, academics, whomever.

02:40:42.000 I'm extremely disappointed. 0.99

02:40:44.000 Shut up. 0.99

02:40:45.000 Not once have I heard you say, wow, I messed up, Rabbi. 1.00

02:40:49.000 I realize what you're saying.

02:40:51.000 I understand what I did wrong.

02:40:53.000 You know, I'm not going to phrase it that way again.

02:40:57.000 Using Shmuley's example, you could just say, you know what?

02:40:59.000 You're right.

02:41:00.000 I don't need to attack him and his daughter being rabbis. 0.66

02:41:03.000 They're just bad people to me.

02:41:05.000 I don't need to. 0.98

02:41:07.000 Make a comment about a Hollywood gang of Jews. 0.97

02:41:10.000 They're just bad guys who are running Hollywood that may have whatever relationships. 0.99

02:41:14.000 That may happen to be Jewish.

02:41:14.000 You've tapped into ancient tropes that are anti-Semitic tropes.

02:41:17.000 You have repeatedly, repeatedly demonstrated a hate for Judaism and Jews.

02:41:24.000 Now I'm hoping that will change.

02:41:26.000 W. But it takes a certain level of self-awareness to be willing to say

02:41:35.000 I did wrong, I'm sorry, I'm going to do it again.

02:41:38.000 I pray and hope that you will.

02:41:39.000 I believe, I do trust when people say you have a nice heart, a niceness, and I really would hope that ultimately we can, we're both conservatives, and there are a lot of Jewish conservatives and a lot of black conservatives, and we can all be on the same side, pointing in the same direction, as opposed to being split because of these kind of repeated comments.

02:42:05.000 Thank you very much for being here.

02:42:13.000 And like I said, we are not going to edit you in any way.

02:42:16.000 We will definitely give you the ability to send that video that you said of me attacking Ben, which I am very sure doesn't exist.

02:42:26.000 And then, uh, last thing I want to say is I have faith in my God.

02:42:31.000 One question, Candice.

02:42:33.000 I actually, this went very long and I have to get to a temple meeting and then I have lunch with a mutual friend of ours, actually.

02:42:40.000 Um, uh, so I don't know when I can get that to, does it matter if I don't get it to till late this afternoon?

02:42:47.000 Um, that should be okay.

02:42:49.000 Okay.

02:42:49.000 I just, I just, I just wanted to be, you know, I want to be respectful and I also wanted to,

02:42:59.000 Yeah, no worries.

02:43:00.000 And I would have you back.

02:43:01.000 We should always want more speech, not less of it.

02:43:04.000 Nobody should ever be calling for the censorship of any person.

02:43:06.000 I believe in free speech, even the speech I disagree with.

02:43:10.000 What I'll say is what I always say.

02:43:11.000 I have faith in my audience.

02:43:13.000 They know who I am.

02:43:14.000 They know what I have said and in what context I have said it.

02:43:17.000 I have a huge Jewish following and I am confident in their belief in me, especially in the fact that they've been listening to the show and they know

02:43:26.000 That I hold no hatred in my heart against Jews.

02:43:27.000 I just don't believe any group is exceptional.

02:43:30.000 I don't believe any group, black, white, Spanish, you watch my show, you're gonna get offended. 1.00

02:43:36.000 And I am always going to call out wrongness when I see it.

02:43:39.000 And to the extent that we are using antisemitism as a tool to bar people from critiquing certain individuals a la...

02:43:47.000 Rabbi Shmuley, it is going to make an enemy of me, but I will never be an enemy to the Jewish people.

02:43:52.000 So ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for watching the show today.

02:43:56.000 I cannot wait to see your comments.

02:43:59.000 Stick around because, as usual, tomorrow we'll be back with a brand new episode.

02:44:04.000 Alright guys, I'm just picking this up really quickly because as you heard throughout that discussion, the rabbi said that after the conversation, he would send to us evidence within the Tucker Carlson interview of my having attacked Ben Shapiro for being pro-Israel.

02:44:18.000 He was unable to produce a part of that discussion with Tucker as evidence.

02:44:22.000 What he sent us instead was a tweet that I wrote

02:44:27.000 and just to contextualize this in response to a tweet that Ben had written obviously to Ben writing Candace if you feel you will hate the one and love the other or you will be devoted to the okay um all right let's look at the comments let's see when she played her Hitler quote and he still stood by what he wrote I lost respect for this guy

02:44:51.000 12 million Congolese murdered by Austrians, but for him, October... I think they mean Belgians, right? 0.88

02:44:59.000 But for him... and that's not even true, by the way.

02:45:02.000 All the atrocities against the Congolese by the Belgians is totally exaggerated.

02:45:08.000 But for him, October 7th was the worst in history.

02:45:12.000 Imagine having someone say, I'm extremely disappointed you over and over again when you're his equal.

02:45:16.000 Respect is earned, buddy.

02:45:19.000 The rabbi basically calls anyone who disagrees with a Jew anti-semitic.

02:45:23.000 W?

02:45:25.000 I cannot stand that he's trying to get Candace to say basically Jewish victims are more important than literally every other victim in history.

02:45:33.000 The wheels are turning.

02:45:34.000 Normies are waking up. 0.99

02:45:37.000 Honestly, Candace, props to you for not exploding on this man because his tone is so incredibly patronizing I could hardly listen.

02:45:45.000 That's how I feel. 0.98

02:45:47.000 This Jewish supremacist is so awful to listen to, so painful. 0.99

02:45:51.000 9,000 likes. 0.97

02:45:53.000 She asked him for the definition of antisemitism and he talks for 15 minutes straight just to basically say it's whatever I say it is at the time.

02:46:03.000 His virtue signaling is unreal.

02:46:05.000 I would never want to insult anyone after he just wrote an article absolutely eviscerating Candace publicly because she disagrees with him.

02:46:11.000 Unreal.

02:46:13.000 The idea that it is anti-semitic to say October 7th was evil but not uniquely evil is extremely wacky. 0.98

02:46:21.000 He is the most patronizing and fake person I have ever witnessed. 0.63

02:46:24.000 He is the last person on the planet I would want representing my faith. 1.00

02:46:28.000 That's how they all are.

02:46:29.000 They think they're better than everybody.

02:46:32.000 So Candace beating this dude in a debate is also anti-semitic?

02:46:36.000 W. 0.95

02:46:40.000 Candace deserves a medal for enduring this nonsense. 0.95

02:46:43.000 He is either angry or condescending. 0.57

02:46:47.000 Universal acclaim.

02:46:49.000 Candace, define antisemitism. 0.83

02:46:51.000 Barclay, 2,000 years ago.

02:46:53.000 It's the oldest form of hatred.

02:46:58.000 3,000 years.

02:47:01.000 Always a red flag when someone can't answer a direct question.

02:47:04.000 True.

02:47:09.000 Well there's the Candace interview with the rabbi.

02:47:12.000 Total destruction of the rabbi.

02:47:15.000 It was another holocaust. 0.96

02:47:17.000 It was another October 7th, the way she destroyed him.

02:47:22.000 The way she... it was the worst kind of evil ever. 1.00

02:47:28.000 Rabbi, let's see a little bit about this guy.

02:47:30.000 Rabbi Michael Barclay is an American rabbi, author, lecturer, the founding rabbi of this temple in Westlake Village, recognized as a theologian.

02:47:55.000 Masons of California, nice.

02:47:59.000 Rabbi Barclay's website recommendations.

02:48:01.000 Torah.org. 0.96

02:48:04.000 Whatever the fuck this is. 0.99

02:48:06.000 And Masons of California! 0.99

02:48:08.000 Nice! 0.94

02:48:10.000 That's crazy!

02:48:11.000 So, Masons and the Jews together? 0.99

02:48:30.000 Hmm.

02:48:32.000 Very interesting.

02:48:40.000 That's why you have to believe in Jesus.

02:48:42.000 No masonry.

02:48:44.000 No rabbi. 1.00

02:48:46.000 We must believe in Jesus Christ and his church, the Catholic Church.

02:48:50.000 That's our only salvation.

02:48:52.000 Not race.

02:48:54.000 Not ideology.

02:48:56.000 Not a cult.

02:49:00.000 Esoteric rituals, but just the church.

02:49:05.000 That's her only refuge from this evil scourge that's taken over our country. 0.97

02:49:11.000 All right, I kind of want to watch, I want to skim through, she did a show today and she basically said she's afraid for her life.

02:49:17.000 All right everybody, happy Tuesday.

02:49:18.000 I kind of want to watch a little of that.

02:49:20.000 Yeah, I mean that debate, I mean,

02:49:24.000 She's kind of just introducing everybody to this phenomenon.

02:49:27.000 It's the same rabbit hole that I went down.

02:49:29.000 This, for people that don't know me, for people that have never watched my show, people that don't understand what I'm about, this is exactly, I mean, literally, the same rabbit hole that I went down when I was 18 years old, uh, when I was a freshman in college.

02:49:47.000 I can actually show you, I think, my, um,

02:49:52.000 The first article that I wrote talking about, like, Jewish power.

02:49:57.000 I mean, I can literally show you exactly what I'm talking about.

02:50:02.000 When I say this is exactly the same rabbit hole, what I mean is that

02:50:09.000 She is basically questioning why is it that we can't criticize Jewish people?

02:50:14.000 Why is it that if a Jewish person attacks us, we can't respond? 0.98

02:50:19.000 If Jewish people control Hollywood, we can't acknowledge it. 1.00

02:50:25.000 If Jewish people bomb Palestinians, we can't feel bad for the Palestinians because that somehow creates a false moral equivalency. 0.99

02:50:35.000 And the crimes against Jews are uniquely evil, always. 0.97

02:50:39.000 The Holocaust, October 7th, are uniquely evil. 0.90

02:50:42.000 Anti-Semitism is completely amorphous.

02:50:45.000 It's whatever they say it is at any given time.

02:50:48.000 So she's basically finding out, or I don't know how long she's known this, but I think she's leading people down this path.

02:50:57.000 And it's the same inquiry that I

02:51:01.000 that I started years ago, which led me to this situation in my life.

02:51:07.000 And I'll show you the first article that I wrote about this back in 2016, December 2016.

02:51:15.000 If you've watched my show, you have probably seen this before.

02:51:18.000 Yeah, so I wrote this article.

02:51:24.000 This is December 26, 2016.

02:51:25.000 Okay, so this is

02:51:31.000 Over seven years ago.

02:51:35.000 And I was a freshman in college.

02:51:38.000 I was in my first semester at Boston University.

02:51:41.000 18.

02:51:42.000 I just turned 18, four months before.

02:51:45.000 And I discovered the same thing.

02:51:46.000 I wrote... Hopefully you can see it.

02:51:52.000 I wrote, this week President Obama said... And by the way, so just to give you an overview, this article is about

02:52:00.000 When Obama left office, he had been feuding with Bibi Netanyahu for his entire presidency.

02:52:09.000 Obama and Netanyahu hated each other, and Obama was very outspoken about

02:52:16.000 The occupation of the West Bank with civilian settlements created by Israeli Jews, which Netanyahu didn't like.

02:52:25.000 And there was more to it than that.

02:52:27.000 Obama also created the Iran nuclear deal, the JCPOA, in 2015, in secret.

02:52:32.000 He didn't tell the Israelis about it initially.

02:52:34.000 They were very unhappy about that.

02:52:36.000 And they didn't like the deal at all.

02:52:38.000 They think that we need to have regime change in Iran.

02:52:42.000 They didn't want to negotiate with Iran.

02:52:43.000 So Israel, and specifically the right-wing leadership of Israel, hated Obama.

02:52:50.000 And Trump wins the election in November 16.

02:52:53.000 And one of the last things Obama did, it was kind of a dig at Israel.

02:52:58.000 There was a resolution in the Security Council

02:53:01.000 Which was condemning the civilian settlements in the West Bank.

02:53:05.000 Normally, the United States vetoes any resolution against Israel in the Security Council, but this one, Obama chose to not veto.

02:53:16.000 So the United States only abstained from voting on this resolution.

02:53:22.000 And everyone called them anti-semitic.

02:53:24.000 And this was really, this was like a last dig at Netanyahu before he left office.

02:53:32.000 He didn't order the UN ambassador to veto the resolution allowing the UN to condemn the settlement expansion of the West Bank.

02:53:41.000 Which, by the way, this is American policy.

02:53:44.000 It has been official American policy since 1967 to oppose the settlements in the West Bank.

02:53:52.000 And all Obama did was abstain on a resolution condemning the same settlements that we already oppose, that every president has effectively opposed since 1967.

02:54:05.000 But everybody called Obama anti-Semitic.

02:54:08.000 Fox News and all the conservative publications said, oh, this guy is the most anti-Semitic president ever. 0.99

02:54:15.000 He's a Jew-hater. 0.99

02:54:16.000 Blah, blah, blah. 0.97

02:54:18.000 And at that time, I mean, I didn't like Obama.

02:54:20.000 I never liked Obama.

02:54:21.000 I was a hardcore conservative and

02:54:25.000 You know, I supported Mitt Romney in 2012 when I was a freshman in high school.

02:54:29.000 So I had no love for Obama, but I looked at it and said, why are they calling this guy an anti-Semite?

02:54:35.000 He's only enforcing American policy that every president has for almost 50 years.

02:54:43.000 So this is the article.

02:54:46.000 It says this week President Obama set Fox News and the Republican Party into an anti-United Nations, pro-Israel frenzy after he refused to veto a Security Council resolution condemning Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's civilian settlement program in the West Bank.

02:55:02.000 President-elect Trump tweeted that things will be different.

02:55:05.000 Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz have demanded that the U.S.

02:55:08.000 pull funding from the United Nations until the resolution is somehow rescinded.

02:55:13.000 The whole of the right wing has thrown their arms up in the same tired hissy fit yelling the same exaggerated platitudes and talking points.

02:55:20.000 Barack Obama is the most anti-Israel president. 0.98

02:55:23.000 Barack Obama is an anti-Semite. 0.97

02:55:25.000 The U.N. 0.98

02:55:25.000 and Obama hate Israel. 0.98

02:55:28.000 It is worth pointing out that every American president since 1967 has opposed the Israeli settlement program.

02:55:35.000 It is worth noting that President Obama repeatedly called on Netanyahu to halt the settlement program and instead he accelerated it.

02:55:43.000 Why is it unreasonable that President Obama then refused to veto a Security Council resolution condemning that same program?

02:55:52.000 Never mind the debate about whether or not the settlement program is right or wrong, or about whether the UN is anti-semitic.

02:55:59.000 There's a very simple cause and effect.

02:56:02.000 Coming from a supporter of Israel, this was me writing this, I was a supporter of Israel, President Obama's decision was appropriate.

02:56:10.000 But this is beside the point.

02:56:12.000 In the first place, who cares?

02:56:14.000 The Republican establishment seems to be more outraged by Obama's slight to Israel than by the $20 trillion debt, three decades overdue promise to secure the border, the welfare state, the regulatory state, the Federal Reserve, NSA spying, the failing war on drugs, imminent war with Russia.

02:56:30.000 Hello!

02:56:31.000 I was correct.

02:56:32.000 I was writing about this in 2017.

02:56:35.000 Donbass war had started three years earlier.

02:56:38.000 And so many other problems facing America.

02:56:42.000 And those are all still problems.

02:56:44.000 The debt is now over $30 trillion.

02:56:46.000 The border is now still wide open.

02:56:49.000 War on drugs is bad.

02:56:50.000 Federal Reserve printed 100% of the money supply in 2020.

02:56:55.000 Okay, I knew what was going on.

02:56:58.000 I knew the score.

02:57:00.000 I went to a Ted Cruz rally on the eve of the Iowa caucus in January 2016 and despite a half hour warm-up by Glenn Beck, the most disturbing part of the evening came when Senator Cruz began describing his first day in office.

02:57:13.000 It started with a standard list.

02:57:16.000 Overturning Obama's executive orders, tearing up the Iran deal, but maybe after item 5 or 6 he said he would order the transfer of the U.S.

02:57:24.000 Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

02:57:27.000 I don't disagree the U.S.

02:57:29.000 Embassy ought to be moved.

02:57:30.000 That's common sense.

02:57:33.000 But I disagree that this is somehow high enough priority that a hypothetical President Cruz executes this not just on the first day, but early in the first day in office.

02:57:45.000 I mean, you get the gist of it.

02:57:51.000 I'll go through a little bit more.

02:57:58.000 Presently, this country faces existential threats that no American should be hearing anything about embassies or Jerusalem on day one, two, or three. 0.65

02:58:05.000 This is not an attack on Israel or Jews.

02:58:08.000 This is not pushing anti-Semitic or anti-Zionist conspiracies.

02:58:12.000 It's not sympathy for Hamas or any other Islamist organization.

02:58:17.000 This prevailing concern is that the American president must put the American people first.

02:58:22.000 After all, I guarantee that Netanyahu didn't promise the Israelis some concession to the United States on his first day in office.

02:58:31.000 This country is at war with medieval Islamist barbarians, hurtling towards war with Russia or China, facing the largest debt bomb in the history of the world, attempting to absorb tens of millions of illegals, coming to bear the consequences of millions of legal immigrants yet to assimilate. 0.99

02:58:49.000 Israel may be in peril, but so are we.

02:58:52.000 We are in no position to get tangled up in a 1300-year-old religious feud over a piece of desert the size of New Jersey as we stare down a fate similar to the Roman Empire. 0.90

02:59:02.000 For voicing this reasonable position, I was labeled an anti-Semite, a racist, a Nazi, a white supremacist, an alt-righter, even a drunk.

02:59:12.000 That's not playing the victim card.

02:59:13.000 That is to say that for five years mainstream conservatives have beaten identity politics to death.

02:59:18.000 Yeah, turn around and smear anybody skeptical of Israel obsession and the GOP as a bigot.

02:59:24.000 For months, I tweeted that the Mexican anti-Trump rioters speaking Spanish and waving their flag ought to go back to Mexico.

02:59:31.000 No one objected.

02:59:33.000 Yet Ben Shapiro, who made his career off of the crusade against identity politics and college leftism, decried me as an anti-Semite for suggesting the same thing about Zionists. 1.00

02:59:44.000 Unsurprisingly, the entire Jewish-Zionist contingent of Shapiro's publication descended from their enlightened patriotism to argue with straw men and call me a stupid, ignorant, Islamist-sympathizing idiot. 1.00

02:59:57.000 That sounds a lot like identity politics to me. 1.00

03:00:01.000 Conservatives will run to the right of Robert Spencer to call Islam cancerous, dangerous, evil. 0.80

03:00:08.000 They rebuff accusations of Islamophobia by retreating to the pretentious facts-don't-care-about-your-feeling line. 0.91

03:00:16.000 God forbid some free-thinking conservative dare question the conservative response to Obama's position on one Israeli policy, automatically label the Nazi.

03:00:28.000 Boom! 0.99

03:00:30.000 So, you know, I don't know if she's just discovering this or if she's just becoming outspoken about it, but I've been saying this since the beginning.

03:00:37.000 That's how I got here.

03:00:39.000 I said it from the beginning.

03:00:41.000 The same stuff.

03:00:42.000 I said, look, I'm not an anti-Semite.

03:00:44.000 I'm not anti-Israel.

03:00:46.000 I like Jews.

03:00:46.000 I like Israel.

03:00:48.000 But this doesn't make any sense.

03:00:51.000 And I'm just getting called an anti-Semite.

03:00:55.000 And then that has steadily happened for seven years.

03:00:58.000 And now,

03:01:00.000 I'm banned on everything.

03:01:03.000 You know, if you pull up my Wikipedia, you see what it says about me.

03:01:10.000 ADL, five things to know about Nick Fuentes.

03:01:14.000 Texas Tribune, what to know about the white supremacist. 0.99

03:01:18.000 Nick Fuentes, the latest white supremacist, says perfidious Jews should be executed. 1.00

03:01:27.000 Known for his white supremacist, misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic, Islamophobic views. 1.00

03:01:33.000 He's promoted conspiracy theories against Jews, denied the Holocaust, advocates for the genocide of Jews. 0.98

03:01:39.000 He's an incel, supports authoritarian government.

03:01:42.000 He's a Christian nationalist.

03:01:49.000 But that's how it started.

03:01:54.000 And then he realized it's all true.

03:01:57.000 Realize all of these so-called tropes, they're all just true.

03:02:02.000 And they do run the media, and they do run Hollywood, and they do run the whole thing.

03:02:09.000 And that's why they have used their power to ban anybody from talking about it.

03:02:15.000 So, anyway.

03:02:17.000 So, she's right.

03:02:18.000 I mean, she's right, and she's walking people through this, but she's kind of waking people up to this stuff.

03:02:25.000 It's like step one is realizing that, yes, they are a gang, they are a mob, and they do hide behind the anti-Semitism Holocaust stuff, atrocity propaganda, so that you can't acknowledge their power or criticize it.

03:02:39.000 Then, once you do begin to acknowledge their power and criticize it, then you find out a lot of other disconcerting things about them.

03:02:50.000 But let's see, because she says that she's afraid for her life.

03:02:53.000 At least I'm very happy today, because we've been trending all day on X, given the interview that I gave with Rabbi Barclay yesterday.

03:03:01.000 A lot of you guys have so many comments regarding that back and forth.

03:03:06.000 Alright guys, a tremendous, tremendous response.

03:03:09.000 Honestly, thank you.

03:03:10.000 I think people of all races and religions were just shocked.

03:03:14.000 I don't know.

03:03:31.000 I think he honestly, as I tweeted yesterday, views himself as better and more important, or at least his race, as more important than other races, more significant, the history of his race as more significant.

03:03:44.000 And even in terms of someone being a supremacist, if you are honestly a supremacist, at least I can appreciate that.

03:03:50.000 Because you're not hiding who you are.

03:03:52.000 And that's why I meant it when I said that he will always be welcomed back onto this show.

03:03:56.000 I think it takes courage to have conversations.

03:03:58.000 And I think that what he did yesterday was actually quite courageous.

03:04:03.000 A couple of moments that you guys were shocked by, just like me, was, I guess, just the lack of definition when it comes to anti-Semitism.

03:04:10.000 It mutates.

03:04:11.000 He told us that over and over again.

03:04:13.000 It is a definition.

03:04:14.000 It is a hate that mutates, which essentially, at least the way I took it and I think most of you took it, means

03:04:20.000 That it can just be whatever they say that it is, including the term hag.

03:04:24.000 I think I actually learned the word hag from watching the movie Hocus Pocus when I was a kid.

03:04:28.000 It actually was one of my favorite movies and they used the word hag and I used it to describe someone that is engaging in witch-like behavior. 0.97

03:04:35.000 Trying to cast a spell on audiences to convince them that Candace Owens is an anti-Semite when I could not be further from that sort of a categorization.

03:04:43.000 I am just, I have no hatred towards Jewish people in my soul.

03:04:47.000 I just don't.

03:04:49.000 I've had many experiences with Jewish people growing up.

03:04:51.000 I've already recounted those.

03:04:52.000 We're not going to do that today.

03:04:53.000 But yes, Rabbi Barclay says that the scholars agree.

03:04:57.000 Kept talking down to me.

03:04:58.000 It's the scholars.

03:04:59.000 It's the intelligentsia.

03:05:00.000 They're so much smarter than us and they understand the definition just changes.

03:05:04.000 I think a lot of you guys were also surprised by the double down, right, in the face of overwhelming evidence.

03:05:10.000 I just thought there was no way, once we pulled the clips of me saying the exact opposite of what he claimed that I said, I thought there was no way that he was going to double down on it, but he did.

03:05:20.000 He particularly doubled down on the Hitler is okay, Candace thing, right? 0.97

03:05:26.000 Candace said Hitler is okay.

03:05:27.000 He repeated that over and over again in that hit piece.

03:05:31.000 And then I show that I did not in any way say Hitler was okay, because what crazy person would ever jump on a stage and say that?

03:05:40.000 Here's one comment from YouTube.

03:05:42.000 Somebody wrote, Yeah.

03:05:50.000 A lot of comments looked like that, and I think especially because so many people had never actually heard what I said in its entirety.

03:05:57.000 You've seen the libels.

03:05:58.000 You've seen the smears.

03:05:59.000 They've been printed for years.

03:06:00.000 I am still having to clarify.

03:06:03.000 For years, I have been clarifying what I said, and many of you guys have never heard it because you've just seen article after article, hit after hit, people trying to convince the masses that I said something that I simply never said.

03:06:17.000 And in watching that clip, I think people were shocked.

03:06:20.000 But yes, this is the truth.

03:06:21.000 And factually speaking, as a political pundit, whatever it is that you want to call me, as a podcaster, I have been smeared and libeled for years.

03:06:30.000 And I feel a power building in that people are getting tired of this.

03:06:35.000 We are being tired of being propagandized.

03:06:38.000 And that is why, for me, I feel in my soul at the time, is now.

03:06:41.000 And people are asking, why is Candace speaking out right now?

03:06:44.000 Well, the truth is, is

03:06:46.000 I'm simply tired of being lied on.

03:06:49.000 I'm a human, right?

03:06:50.000 Eventually you get to a point where you say, I'm just not going to allow people to lie on my name anymore.

03:06:57.000 Especially again, as I said, when it's been happening for years.

03:07:00.000 And really all I've ever done since I've had a platform is just try to show you guys the truth.

03:07:05.000 I don't want to tell you what to think.

03:07:07.000 I can only share with you what my experiences are and hope that it helps you develop your own ideas.

03:07:14.000 So let's recap because I'm going to share some things I've never shared before.

03:07:17.000 Obviously, you guys know that I hit the scene in 2017 and I had a laser sharp focus on the black community.

03:07:26.000 Regardless of whether they occurred across Europe or in Germany alone.

03:07:29.000 I just want to skip this part.

03:07:30.000 We kind of went over that at the beginning.

03:07:33.000 article in that long interview with Rabbi Barclay already was jumping on the next smear.

03:07:38.000 His name is Isaac Schor.

03:07:40.000 He writes for, you guessed it, Mediite, as well as the New York Post.

03:07:46.000 And he is now publicly calling to have me fired.

03:07:49.000 He's written a lot of articles, by the way.

03:07:51.000 And he talks to a lot of people behind the scenes, telling them not to run any pieces on Candace Owens.

03:07:56.000 Don't talk about Candace Owens.

03:07:57.000 This guy's like, you know, doing a real hit job here.

03:08:00.000 And like a total rational journalist, he tweeted, Yeah, totally a rational thing for a journalist to tweet.

03:08:20.000 He accompanied that with an article.

03:08:22.000 Has anybody from Daily Wire spoken in defense of Candace Owens?

03:08:26.000 Is there anything from Michael Knowles or Klavan or Matt Walsh?

03:08:30.000 I don't doubt Shapiro hates her guts now. 0.99

03:08:33.000 Shapiro wants her dead, no doubt. 0.99

03:08:36.000 Because she's obviously going out there and... 0.98

03:08:41.000 Blowing the lid on the whole Jewish conspiracy, but I'm I'm really curious about her buddies because Matt Walsh and Michael Bells are totally red-pilled They just won't say anything because I don't know why they want to protect their money Maybe their wives don't want him to be anti-semitic.

03:08:56.000 I don't know but Klavan's a Jew I imagine Klavan can't be happy about all this so I wonder I wonder what the reaction because

03:09:04.000 Clearly this is coming to a head.

03:09:07.000 I imagine they will buy her contract out soon or find maybe a morality clause, some reason to fire her and, you know, get rid of the contract. 1.00

03:09:16.000 But I think they're going to let her go soon.

03:09:20.000 She can't be going on her show every day and humiliating rabbis, talking about Jews run Hollywood. 0.81

03:09:25.000 Shapiro's never going to go for that.

03:09:27.000 So I think her time is coming to an end on Daily Wire.

03:09:31.000 I'm very curious what the others are going to say.

03:09:35.000 If there's going to be any solidarity, if they'll defend her.

03:09:38.000 And if there isn't, shame on them.

03:09:40.000 Because she's friends with all those people and they all know better.

03:09:43.000 Not Klavan. 0.89

03:09:44.000 Klavan's a Jew. 0.94

03:09:45.000 But Michael Knowles and Matt Welsh, they're both Catholic.

03:09:48.000 They both know what's going on.

03:09:50.000 They both know there's a Jewish mafia.

03:09:52.000 They're just silent about it.

03:09:55.000 So, I'm really curious to see.

03:09:58.000 It's very predictable how everybody's going to move.

03:10:01.000 I will be

03:10:03.000 Very pleasantly surprised if they come out and defend her.

03:10:07.000 I'll be very surprised.

03:10:11.000 But I'm gonna withhold

03:10:14.000 Judgment until, you know, any of this really happens.

03:10:18.000 By the same title, how long would the Daily Wire stand by Candace Owens?

03:10:21.000 Because as you've seen, I've showed you the whole history.

03:10:24.000 Aren't you convinced yet?

03:10:25.000 They've written so many articles.

03:10:28.000 Psychological terrorists.

03:10:28.000 They told you a thousand times anti-Semite, so it must be true.

03:10:31.000 And why would anyone hire and stand by a raging anti-Semite?

03:10:36.000 They've said it so many times, guys.

03:10:38.000 And he wasn't done.

03:10:39.000 He wrote a second headline yesterday, published on Mediaite.

03:10:44.000 Maybe, I don't know, just enraged at the fact that I had to sit down and spoke rationally to Rabbi Barclay.

03:10:49.000 I don't know what's driving this, but here's the headline.

03:10:52.000 Candace Owens endorses wild anti-Semitic conspiracy theory about Jews being drunk on Christian blood. 1.00

03:11:02.000 That is the headline, you guys.

03:11:03.000 You've been listening to the show.

03:11:05.000 Have you ever heard me endorse a conspiracy theory about Jews being drunk on Christian blood? 0.97

03:11:13.000 How sick and how sinister is this getting? 0.95

03:11:16.000 True.

03:11:17.000 How utterly insane is this all getting?

03:11:20.000 True.

03:11:21.000 I have no idea what they're talking about. 1.00

03:11:25.000 They are insane! 0.99

03:11:26.000 How dare they suggest that? 1.00

03:11:30.000 I can't believe they would say drunk on Christian blood.

03:11:33.000 I don't know what they're talking about when she's... They say she endorsed that, what, by liking a tweet that said that?

03:11:40.000 What are they talking about? 0.89

03:11:42.000 They sound completely insane.

03:11:45.000 The gaslighting is such... Because she did like a tweet.

03:11:48.000 She liked a tweet that said, Rabbi Shmuley must be drunk on Christian blood again.

03:11:55.000 So that's what they're talking about.

03:11:56.000 And I love how she goes, just with like no sense of irony, she's like, what are they talking about?

03:12:02.000 This is getting really dark. 0.99

03:12:06.000 It's like, I know Candace, they're just making shit up. 0.98

03:12:10.000 It's starting to feel like 0.99

03:12:10.000 True. 0.99

03:12:27.000 A tweet that I had liked of someone defending me when Rabbi Shmuley was smearing me.

03:12:34.000 He dug up an old tweet of mine that was from February, tried to present it as if it was something new and something that was about him before our back and forth ever even broke out.

03:12:44.000 So I liked the tweet because it clarified the right date of the tweet saying that

03:12:50.000 Rabbi Shmuley, this tweet is obviously from February 20th.

03:12:53.000 What are you, drunk on Christian blood? 1.00

03:12:54.000 Didn't even pay attention to the last part of the tweet. 0.79

03:12:56.000 I just obviously like that this person was calling out this BS smear.

03:13:02.000 Well, I like that tweet because it corrected the date.

03:13:10.000 They're saying that I endorsed a theory about Jews being drunk on Christian blood.

03:13:16.000 I don't know what they're talking about.

03:13:17.000 This is so dark.

03:13:18.000 They're just trying to get me.

03:13:20.000 I did like a tweet that said that, but only because it corrected something in another tweet.

03:13:26.000 I didn't even read that part.

03:13:28.000 It's like one sentence.

03:13:31.000 That tweet was like ten words and seven of them were, are you drunk on Christian blood again? 0.68

03:13:40.000 So good. 0.97

03:13:40.000 She's the goat, dude. 0.97

03:13:41.000 She's the goat. 1.00

03:13:46.000 Rabbi Shmuley, this tweet is obviously from February 20th. 0.97

03:13:49.000 What are you, drunk on Christian blood? 1.00

03:13:50.000 You didn't even pay attention to the last part of the tweet.

03:13:52.000 I just obviously liked that this person was calling out this BS.

03:13:55.000 I didn't even pay attention to the last part where it said that.

03:13:58.000 It's like one line, 15 words.

03:14:02.000 I didn't even read the whole thing.

03:14:04.000 What do you think, I read the whole thing?

03:14:07.000 I didn't endorse that.

03:14:08.000 Likes are not endorsements.

03:14:11.000 Retweets are not endorsements. 0.80

03:14:12.000 Didn't you read my bio, you Jew? 1.00

03:14:15.000 What are you, drunk on Christian blood? 1.00

03:14:17.000 Retweets are not endorsements. 0.97

03:14:20.000 You Transylvanian wizard.

03:14:23.000 Little did I know that Isaac Shore and a team of journalists are now monitoring every single like of mine on Twitter to see if they can convince the public that I am advocating for insanity.

03:14:38.000 This is how desperate they have become.

03:14:41.000 So I'll ask the question, what are we actually witnessing here?

03:14:43.000 Do you believe Isaac Shore is a victim?

03:14:46.000 Did you believe that he is a person who genuinely in his heart thinks that I think Jews are running around drinking Christian blood by that headline?

03:14:56.000 Do you think that Rabbi Barclay is a victim?

03:14:58.000 Do you honestly believe his interpretation that I was the one who owed the apology to him and the Jewish community on the basis that I just won't let them keep trying to smear me out of existence? 0.99

03:15:10.000 Specific people in the Jewish community.

03:15:11.000 God forbid, did she defend herself against Rabbi Shmuley?

03:15:14.000 Do you believe Rabbi Shmuley is a victim?

03:15:16.000 When you listen to these individuals speak and the things that they are publicizing, does that register to you as true victimhood?

03:15:24.000 Because what it registers to me as is power.

03:15:27.000 Real power hiding behind a veneer of victimhood.

03:15:30.000 The kind of power that can take somebody out and end their entire career if that person says something that they don't like.

03:15:35.000 And in this case, it's not that I'm saying things that they don't like, it's that I'm refusing to allow my voice to be controlled.

03:15:43.000 I want to be clear to you guys.

03:15:43.000 I'm going to be honest with you because everybody's noticing it.

03:15:46.000 Every single political commentator in America, every single one of them knows this.

03:15:53.000 That if you do not step out and say things that are radically pro-Israel, or if you are too quiet on certain narratives and they want you to be radically pro-Israel, you can lose everything.

03:16:04.000 That's the truth.

03:16:04.000 That is a fact.

03:16:05.000 Let's go!

03:16:05.000 I'm not feeling like I need to hide from that anymore.

03:16:09.000 Or be afraid to say it, rather, is a better way to say it.

03:16:12.000 Because I've endured this for years.

03:16:14.000 I'm just at the end of my rope.

03:16:16.000 I have given so much rope here, and I am just done with it.

03:16:19.000 Let's go.

03:16:20.000 Every person that you are a fan of, they know this.

03:16:23.000 Every person that you line up to go hear speak, they know this.

03:16:26.000 Again, it's not even on the basis of what you say.

03:16:28.000 It can sometimes be on the basis of what you don't say.

03:16:31.000 That an entire mob will assemble, they'll write piece after piece after piece, until you subjugate.

03:16:38.000 Wow.

03:16:38.000 Wow!

03:17:00.000 That is my crime.

03:17:01.000 Everybody can see that.

03:17:02.000 It's ridiculous to pretend that it's anything else, okay?

03:17:04.000 There's no language that I have used.

03:17:07.000 There's nothing insane that I have said other than I would like to treat all races the same.

03:17:29.000 I refuse to be a supremacist.

03:17:31.000 I refuse to condone supremacy.

03:17:33.000 That is my crime.

03:17:34.000 So what I want to do here for all of you guys that are worried that something's going to happen to me is to just provide this full accounting of everything that I've ever done and everything that I've ever said that has been deemed controversial from this mafia, right?

03:17:48.000 This mafia of journalists that will not let up and leave me alone.

03:17:53.000 Because that's what it is.

03:17:55.000 What is it?

03:17:55.000 What else could it possibly be?

03:17:56.000 You're acting like a mafia.

03:17:58.000 You are threatening me.

03:17:59.000 You are taking my words out of context.

03:18:02.000 You are telling people to fire me on the basis that I just won't be radical.

03:18:08.000 On the basis that I won't hate on command.

03:18:11.000 It's not about love, it's about hate.

03:18:12.000 You want me to hate on command.

03:18:14.000 And I want to be clear that what these journalists are engaging in is evil.

03:18:20.000 It is absolute evil to do this to any person.

03:18:23.000 And I'm not going to be driven crazy by it.

03:18:25.000 In fact, I'm going to be driven to more clarity by it.

03:18:28.000 I am going to grow stronger from this.

03:18:30.000 I am going to be a person that is more encouraged to speak out on what is happening to me.

03:18:35.000 I want the public to see what is happening to me because I think they know my heart and they know that what I'm actually doing is refusing hatred.

03:18:43.000 Balance of nature fruits and veggies is the most convenient way to get- That's awesome!

03:18:47.000 She's awesome!

03:18:50.000 So good.

03:18:52.000 I can't believe she said the words.

03:18:55.000 You know, because she's really been barking up this tree and then... 0.51

03:19:00.000 The interview yesterday, but for her to come right out and say, look, if you're not pro-Israel, they will destroy you.

03:19:07.000 And everyone knows it.

03:19:08.000 That's just like... I wonder who's even gonna cover this.

03:19:12.000 Is anyone covering this right now?

03:19:14.000 I saw Glenn Greenwald was talking about it on his show earlier tonight, but is anybody covering this?

03:19:21.000 God bless her. 1.00

03:19:22.000 Good for her.

03:19:23.000 Pray for this woman. 0.56

03:19:25.000 Because they are going to try and destroy her.

03:19:27.000 I mean, they already are, but they're really going to go in on her after this.

03:19:32.000 I can imagine Shapiro's probably hopping on a jet and flying over there, barging down the door of the studio.

03:19:43.000 Shut it down! 1.00

03:19:45.000 That's wild, man.

03:19:47.000 Good for her.

03:19:48.000 But you know, I feel like this all came from Ye24, because this is what

03:19:54.000 A lot of this started in 2022 when Ye came out and said what he said.

03:20:00.000 And Candace Owens defended him for saying it because he's right.

03:20:06.000 And I chastised her a little bit at that time.

03:20:11.000 I was like, hey, and so did Ye, for that matter.

03:20:16.000 Said, hey, where are you on this?

03:20:20.000 We're out here telling the truth.

03:20:21.000 We're out here

03:20:23.000 Putting everything on the line to take a stand here for not just America, but also Christianity.

03:20:32.000 And we said, where are you?

03:20:33.000 You're on the Daily Wire plantation.

03:20:37.000 You're working at Daily Wire and your silence has been purchased.

03:20:42.000 And I remember some of those conversations.

03:20:48.000 So I am really blown away.

03:20:50.000 I've always liked her.

03:20:53.000 I've always thought she was pretty solid.

03:20:57.000 She obviously wasn't outspoken at that point.

03:20:59.000 Not as outspoken.

03:21:00.000 Not this outspoken.

03:21:04.000 This is really unbelievable and a very positive development.

03:21:07.000 It just goes to show you have to just be honest.

03:21:10.000 You have to just put it out there.

03:21:12.000 It doesn't need to be extreme.

03:21:14.000 It doesn't need to be fanatical.

03:21:15.000 It doesn't need to be weird or like me or whatever.

03:21:19.000 But people do just have to start being honest about what's happening.

03:21:23.000 You know, that's what Ye made that decision to just put it out there.

03:21:28.000 He wasn't too big or too famous or too anything.

03:21:31.000 He went out there and told the truth.

03:21:33.000 And paid the price.

03:21:36.000 And courage inspires courage.

03:21:40.000 He took a stand.

03:21:40.000 I think he inspired many people in just the last couple years since he went out there.

03:21:46.000 And now Candace Owens is maybe the biggest one yet who's taking a stand. 0.70

03:21:52.000 So, it's pretty remarkable to see.

03:21:55.000 We'll skip this advertisement.

03:21:57.000 We'll see where we're going with this.

03:22:00.000 But yeah, I'm really impressed with her.

03:22:03.000 God bless her. 1.00

03:22:04.000 We love Candace.

03:22:04.000 And a Kasparian.

03:22:05.000 Her and I have basically been on the opposite sides of everything throughout our entire career.

03:22:11.000 She has said horrible things about me, but so what?

03:22:15.000 I thought this video was interesting and I'm going to show you what she said regarding AIPAC.

03:22:20.000 AIPAC is evil.

03:22:22.000 AIPAC is evil, evil.

03:22:24.000 My fellow Americans, are you okay with that?

03:22:27.000 Are you okay with a lobbying group representing the best interests of a foreign government telling you? 0.99

03:22:34.000 You need to bust your ass every day, work a job that you likely hate, and have a portion of your earnings taken from you by our federal government and funneled to the Israeli government so they can commit atrocities in the Gaza Strip. 0.99

03:22:46.000 Are you okay with that? 1.00

03:22:48.000 Because I'm not okay with that. 0.99

03:22:49.000 And nothing gets under my skin more, okay, than hearing these pieces of crap say things that make it clear that they feel entitled to our money. 1.00

03:22:59.000 Entitled. 0.99

03:23:00.000 Entitled.

03:23:03.000 That gets under my skin more than you guys understand, okay?

03:23:08.000 That's an impassioned response.

03:23:10.000 Let's go, dude! 0.82

03:23:11.000 It's happening!

03:23:13.000 Dude, we're winning!

03:23:15.000 WGroiper?

03:23:16.000 Uh, yeah, WGroiper. 0.99

03:23:20.000 This is nuts, man.

03:23:22.000 The people are waking up.

03:23:24.000 May Allah awaken the people so that they may see the evil doings of Israel. 1.00

03:23:32.000 So awesome.

03:23:33.000 And you love to see it.

03:23:48.000 I'm certain that that includes journalists, because if you have a budget like AIPAC, why wouldn't you be lobbying journalists as well to essentially always fight to have pro-Israel narratives?

03:23:59.000 Again, I want to be clear, I am not anti-Israel.

03:24:01.000 This is what is so wild about all of this.

03:24:04.000 I'm just not anti-Palestinian.

03:24:07.000 And so I hear what she is saying, and I believe that what is happening right now in this country, politically, is an evil.

03:24:16.000 It is wrong.

03:24:17.000 It is completely ridiculous to have a bunch of people that are fearful to speak and say rational things, rational things that they know to be true, because they know they can lose everything.

03:24:28.000 Because they know that a bunch of journalists will pop up like a game of whack-a-mole and try to spin things that you have said to make them much more nefarious than what you actually intended when you say them.

03:24:38.000 Because they know that these journalists have power.

03:24:41.000 Because they know that these journalists will not stop the onslaught.

03:24:45.000 And eventually, people are going to cave.

03:24:48.000 I can't tell you guys how wrong this is.

03:24:50.000 It is so wrong that every fiber of my being now wants to expose this.

03:24:56.000 I want to invite each and every journalist that is going to continue to engage with me in this way onto my show.

03:25:01.000 So Isaac Shore, take this as a public invite for you to come down to sit with me.

03:25:06.000 Can I come on your show?

03:25:07.000 Explain to everybody why you really believed that I think Jews drink Christian blood.

03:25:13.000 You wrote that article because you really believe it.

03:25:15.000 You're actually a good guy.

03:25:15.000 I'm sure you are.

03:25:17.000 I'm going to sit here quietly.

03:25:18.000 I'm going to allow you to explain yourself why you have written so many articles about me and why you believe that I have to be fired.

03:25:24.000 Because you actually believe, as you've written in past articles, that people like me and Tucker Carlson were anti-Semites.

03:25:31.000 Further to that note, further to me believing that the solution to all of this is simply daylight, daylight being the best of disinfectants, I have publicly offered to Rabbi Barclay, who wants me to watch the IDF footage, that not only will I watch the footage, but I am challenging him to use his contacts to also get me a trip to Israel and Gaza.

03:25:51.000 Allow me to be a reporter on the ground.

03:25:52.000 People feel like they're being propagandized about the matter one way or the other.

03:25:56.000 So why not send somebody who I think I've earned the trust of the American public?

03:26:00.000 I'm not someone that will ever be bought and paid for.

03:26:02.000 I'm not someone that will ever say things that I know to be untrue.

03:26:06.000 Why not allow me to go?

03:26:08.000 I'll talk to IDF journalists, I'll talk to Netanyahu, but I also want to speak to people that are impacted by this in Gaza.

03:26:14.000 I want to see what's going on in Gaza.

03:26:17.000 Why not allow someone like me to go there?

03:26:20.000 And I've offered that I will bring other journalists that I think are middle of the line, not one way or the other, simply reporting on the matters and similarly having to endure a bunch of threats and a bunch of smears.

03:26:32.000 People like my friend, who's just a commentator, Dave Smith.

03:26:36.000 A Jewish person who is now being told that he's a self-hating Jew because he won't get in line and, I don't know, deliver the AIPAC talking points.

03:26:46.000 People have a right to know what is going on, especially when it is so significant that you're willing to take out people for not saying the right thing.

03:26:55.000 So my offer stands.

03:26:56.000 Anybody who wants to write an article or smear me or libel me, you are invited to this show.

03:27:01.000 Hopefully, they'll take up my offer.

03:27:03.000 Hopefully, in a few weeks I will be out to Israel, and I will be out to Gaza, and I will be able to report to you guys what it is that I actually see.

03:27:11.000 But I also want to say this because it's so important.

03:27:15.000 I am Team God.

03:27:18.000 I'm team God.

03:27:19.000 I do not fear the media.

03:27:21.000 I do not fear journalists.

03:27:23.000 I do not fear AIPAC.

03:27:24.000 I don't fear Big Pharma.

03:27:26.000 What I actually fear is God.

03:27:28.000 I think that one day we are all going to have to account for the things that we have done and the things that we have said, and I want to make sure that I am not a person that is parroting lies.

03:27:40.000 Fear of losing your job, encouraging some people to spit out lies, I don't think that works in the end.

03:27:47.000 I think you've got to check your priorities.

03:27:50.000 And so with that said, I want to thank everybody who has been on this journey with me, people that have supported me.

03:27:56.000 I especially want to thank all of the Jewish people that have been in the comments saying how outraged they are. 0.99

03:28:01.000 And I know that it is especially difficult for you guys right now, because you are being smeared, you know?

03:28:07.000 I mean, I am not going to go away.

03:28:08.000 I'm going to use my God-given voice to talk about the things that are important for me.

03:28:14.000 I'm just asking to be left alone, or at least just report the truth.

03:28:19.000 Ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately, that is all the time that we have for today.

03:28:23.000 Very good.

03:28:23.000 It's true.

03:28:24.000 Absolutely.

03:28:25.000 That's really the foundational thing.

03:28:26.000 I think if you're not a believer in God, then there's really no reason to be outspoken about this because you can sort of lie without remorse.

03:28:40.000 If it's beneficial, if it's strategic,

03:28:46.000 If you believe in Jesus, then you have to know that this is going on and you have to talk about it.

03:28:51.000 We're not permitted to live a life of lies, especially if the profession is being a political commentator.

03:28:58.000 You can't go on TV and lie through your teeth every day about it.

03:29:02.000 So, Nick, she talks about a secret conversation before you skipped.

03:29:08.000 Yeah, someone's mentioning that.

03:29:09.000 Let me see if I can find it.

03:29:11.000 Let's fast forward now to 2022, to a situation that the entire world was made aware of, obviously, when Ye, the artist formerly known as Kanye West, tweeted this.

03:29:22.000 Someone says three minutes in?

03:29:45.000 I wasn't three minutes in.

03:29:47.000 Three minutes into this segment?

03:29:49.000 Or what?

03:29:49.000 Your agenda.

03:29:51.000 It's good to look at this tweet now without it being interpreted in the media.

03:29:55.000 Especially at last minute.

03:29:56.000 You guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anyone who ever opposes your agenda.

03:30:00.000 Now at that time, obviously, the reason why people were looking for me to make a statement is that this tweet came very close to the time that I had taken the notorious picture with Kanye West

03:30:12.000 We both wore White Lives Matter t-shirts at his fashion show in Paris.

03:30:16.000 Again, me teaming up with Kanye because I have a laser focus on the black community and I had a laser focus on wanting to destroy Black Lives Matter as an organization because I knew that they were lying to the black community. 0.97

03:30:28.000 So again, my entire relationship and what I did publicly with Kanye was based on Black America. 0.83

03:30:34.000 But again, because this tweet came closely thereafter, people were looking at me to comment.

03:30:39.000 And the truth is that I was aware, behind the scenes, Kanye gave me conversations, I read them in their entirety, of very specific Jewish people who I would say were definitively making threats against him.

03:30:53.000 And so I had more knowledge than the public had when he shared this tweet.

03:30:59.000 Now, what happened thereafter was I tried to caution the public the very next day following his tweet.

03:31:05.000 So he had done nothing else yet.

03:31:06.000 He had done no interviews.

03:31:07.000 It was just the tweet that had existed in the public sphere.

03:31:10.000 And I was trying to essentially say to people, hold your horses, because I think that once he explains what's happening behind the scenes, you will realize that he's not talking about all Jewish people in the entire world.

03:31:22.000 He is feeling passionately about certain people that he works with.

03:31:28.000 And here is what I said in an attempt to get people to hold their horses.

03:31:33.000 Take a listen.

03:31:44.000 We've seen this though.

03:32:13.000 And I will admit, if I fumbled the ball here and I can understand what people... People are talking in the live chat about she mentioned a secret conversation.

03:32:19.000 What's she talking about?

03:32:21.000 They read that as, no, she's fully defending him and he actually does want to go DEFCON 3 on all Jewish people everywhere.

03:32:30.000 People were very upset that I had said that.

03:32:34.000 But I want to be clear that I had actually read the messages that were being sent to him.

03:32:38.000 One of them, he ended up sharing publicly.

03:32:40.000 This was a text message from Harley Pasternak to Kanye.

03:32:44.000 And this was something, again, that I had read before he had sent that tweet.

03:32:48.000 Text message reads, I'm going to help you one of a couple of ways.

03:32:52.000 First, you and I sit down and have a loving and open conversation.

03:32:57.000 And what does that mean? 0.94

03:32:59.000 Crazy.

03:33:00.000 And again, I was responding to threats that he was acting. 0.91

03:33:05.000 Huge reaction, calls for me to resign.

03:33:07.000 Okay, yeah, we already knew all that.

03:33:09.000 Okay.

03:33:11.000 Let's do, we'll do like one more.

03:33:15.000 Minute 1230, people are saying.

03:33:22.000 And there was this very strange meeting that occurred and I want to be clear that I didn't understand.

03:33:30.000 Was what happened thereafter.

03:33:32.000 A friend of mine who I am not going to name encouraged me to visit the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

03:33:39.000 That's a human rights organization, human rights for Jews organization.

03:33:43.000 And there was this very strange meeting that occurred and I want to be clear that I didn't understand the meeting because the individuals were speaking in Hebrew.

03:33:53.000 My understanding going into it was that once I spoke to this individual, things would be clarified and then

03:34:01.000 I could just go on living and my reputation would pretty much be restored.

03:34:05.000 That's funny.

03:34:35.000 It's a very odd thing when I reflect on that.

03:34:38.000 But I want to be clear that the threats, the threats that Candace, this could be over at any moment for you, don't you get out of line again by, you know, saying something that you never actually said, but don't make us have to threaten you again, that I still always felt over me because it was just a very scary thing to go through.

03:34:58.000 We spend way too much time on our phones.

03:34:59.000 That's freaky.

03:35:00.000 So she says that she made these comments about Hitler.

03:35:03.000 They made her go to the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

03:35:09.000 They spoke in Hebrew and then it was forgiven.

03:35:14.000 Who's involved in this, I wonder?

03:35:25.000 Simon Wiesenthal centers a global Jewish human rights organization that confronts anti-Semitism, hate, defends Israel and Jews worldwide, teaches lessons of the Holocaust, headquartered in LA.

03:35:39.000 International footprint in New York, Chicago, Miami, Toronto, Paris, Berlin, Jerusalem, Buenos Aires.

03:35:45.000 It's an NGO at the UN, UNESCO, OAS.

03:35:55.000 Jim Burke, executive officer.

03:36:03.000 Wasn't Simon Wiesenthal Center one of the groups that was on the Elon Musk Twitter space?

03:36:15.000 Elon Musk Twitter space.

03:36:22.000 He did a Twitter space with Ben Shapiro back end of 2023.

03:36:27.000 Bruh.

03:36:29.000 Let me just disable my ad blocker.

03:36:37.000 That everyone told me I need to get.

03:36:40.000 I think someone from the Simon Wiesenthal Center was on this space if I recall correctly because the website looks familiar.

03:36:45.000 Does it say who was on there?

03:36:53.000 Not in this one, no.

03:37:07.000 I'll just look up Elon Musk, Simon Wiesenthal.

03:37:20.000 That's about Israel. 0.71

03:37:22.000 Here we go.

03:37:23.000 SWC condemns Musk for failure to tackle anti-Semitism.

03:37:28.000 The Simon Wiesenthal Center issued the following statement.

03:37:32.000 From the moment that Elon Musk acquired Twitter, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a trailblazer in combating online hate and terrorism, has to meet with him to detail our concerns about the leveraging of Twitter by anti-Semites and violent anti-Israel groups and individuals.

03:37:49.000 Reiterates its calls for X to meet and begin a long overdue process of degrading not upgrading the use of X by anti Semites Okay Brat 0.99

03:38:20.000 Everything is like this now. 0.99

03:38:21.000 Enough with the fucking paywalls. 0.99

03:38:28.000 I wonder if there's anything with me. 1.00

03:38:35.000 SWC denounces Trump's meeting with anti-Semite and Holocaust revisionist Nick Fuentes. 0.99

03:38:43.000 I piss on your Talmud. 1.00

03:38:45.000 Get the fuck out of America. 1.00

03:38:48.000 Fuentes is a well-known white supremacist, anti-Semite, Holocaust denier. 1.00

03:38:52.000 In 2019, he questioned whether six million were murdered with this outrageous analogy.

03:38:57.000 How long would it take you to make six million?

03:38:58.000 Hmm, I don't know.

03:38:59.000 It certainly wouldn't be five years, right?

03:39:00.000 The math doesn't seem to add up.

03:39:02.000 Among other slanders, Fuentes is quoted as saying, I piss on your Talmud. 1.00

03:39:06.000 Jews, get the fuck out of America. 1.00

03:39:09.000 Bruh. 1.00

03:39:10.000 How could they say I said that? 0.99

03:39:12.000 That's so ridiculous. 0.99

03:39:14.000 It is unacceptable that a former president who has announced his candidacy would meet with anti-Semites and an avowed white nationalist. 0.99

03:39:21.000 The result of this meeting is the mainstreaming of bigotry at a time of surging anti-Semitism. 1.00

03:39:28.000 Damn. 0.99

03:39:36.000 Well, there you go. 1.00

03:39:39.000 Chuck Schumer denounced me, too.

03:39:43.000 Someone sent it to me.

03:39:46.000 Where's the, um... Oh, I think I have it here.

03:39:52.000 No, I don't have it.

03:39:53.000 Someone, uh... Send me the clip where Chuck Schumer called me out, apparently.

03:40:00.000 Does anyone have that?

03:40:05.000 Where's the... Someone give me that clip. 0.69

03:40:09.000 Here we go.

03:40:09.000 I got it.

03:40:10.000 Never mind.

03:40:11.000 Never mind.

03:40:11.000 Don't need it anymore.

03:40:12.000 Here it is.

03:40:16.000 I begin today by addressing the reprehensible and dangerous comments made yesterday by former President Trump.

03:40:24.000 The former president's comments were utterly disgusting, and a textbook example of the kind of anti-Semitism facing Jews, pushing the dangerous anti-Semitism trope of dual loyalty. 0.71

03:40:37.000 To say you hate Israel or your religion because you have one political view over the other is sick, 0.99

03:40:43.000 It's hateful. 0.98

03:40:45.000 It is unadulterated anti-Semitism.

03:40:48.000 And it serves to use Israel as a political wedge, further damaging the bonds between U.S.

03:40:54.000 and Israel.

03:40:56.000 We have always tried, I've always tried through the years, to keep everything we do on Israel bipartisan.

03:41:02.000 And to use it for partisan purposes hurts Israel, hurts America, and displays how low Donald Trump would go.

03:41:11.000 I was there too.

03:41:12.000 W. W is in the shot.

03:41:13.000 Free Nick Fuentes.

03:41:42.000 Ha ha ha!

03:41:42.000 There's me.

03:41:44.000 Dude, why did I look so much more handsome in this than I do now?

03:41:48.000 Did I get fatter?

03:41:50.000 Older?

03:41:50.000 What happened?

03:41:52.000 My hair is shorter?

03:41:52.000 Nick Fuentes is more loyal to America than most elected officials, including yourself.

03:41:58.000 So true.

03:42:00.000 No!

03:42:01.000 No! 0.96

03:42:02.000 You are Jewish! 1.00

03:42:10.000 Shut up! 1.00

03:42:18.000 Middle finger. 1.00

03:42:19.000 You are Jewish. 0.51

03:42:26.000 I'm gonna get rate limited.

03:42:39.000 Little known fun fact about Schumer. 0.89

03:42:41.000 He's pro-life for Israeli Jews, pro-murder for unborn Americans. 0.99

03:42:46.000 Though Efrat only assists women in Israel, the group has garnered support from inside the Beltway.

03:42:51.000 Senator Chuck Schumer, a noted pro-choice champion, attended a 30th anniversary.

03:42:56.000 He has been lauded by Planned Parenthood as a hero with a 100% pro-choice record.

03:43:03.000 But in 2007 he put his pro-choice position aside and joined his anti-abortion foes at the celebration.

03:43:22.000 Israel's currently fighting a demographic war for her survival.

03:43:26.000 As we go to print, Israel's borders are in jeopardy.

03:43:29.000 Their birth rate is double the Jewish birth rate.

03:43:33.000 So they're basically pro-abortion for Americans and pro-life for Israelis.

03:43:38.000 If that doesn't say it all, I don't know what does.

03:43:41.000 In Israel, they talk about, our birth rate is too low and the Arabs is too high, so we can't abort anybody.

03:43:48.000 In America, they say, oh, whites are becoming a minority?

03:43:52.000 That's a good thing, and we can't wait for it to happen.

03:43:54.000 If you talk about it, you're a racist, and we're pro-choice.

03:44:00.000 So, it's very clearly a supremacist, exclusionary ideology.

03:44:06.000 A religion, actually.

03:44:08.000 I mean, how does it get much clearer than that, right?

03:44:29.000 Well, that's what they say.

03:44:34.000 Alright, what else can we watch today?

03:44:39.000 So Candace Owens is a hero.

03:44:41.000 Candace Owens is an American patriot.

03:44:43.000 We support her absolutely.

03:44:45.000 Nothing she's saying is immoral or anti-Semitic or untrue.

03:44:50.000 She's just finally coming out with it and being honest about the Israeli stranglehold over American politics. 0.95

03:44:59.000 Consequently, she is being attacked, slandered, censored.

03:45:07.000 That's what happened to me.

03:45:09.000 But when it happened to me, no one defended me.

03:45:12.000 When it happened to me in 2017, everybody just piled on.

03:45:16.000 And I was 18, and I didn't know anybody, I had no connections.

03:45:21.000 They just tried to bury me.

03:45:24.000 So I just had to keep fighting as an individual, as a young, inexperienced, not-networked individual, and kept doubling down and doubling down, and eventually I got to this point, where I just have so much baggage, it's unbelievable, so much baggage in terms of negative media stories, slander, been blacklisted by so many people, censored, debanked,

03:45:54.000 So it's been a very difficult war of attrition for me, but nobody has ever really come out and defend... Well, I shouldn't say nobody, but... In the very beginning, nobody defended me.

03:46:06.000 Lately, people have been defending me, because now people are starting to get it, but it's been a tough career.

03:46:11.000 It's been a tough life for me.

03:46:13.000 So I'm glad that Candace is going out now and saying what's up.

03:46:21.000 Because we need more people to speak out.

03:46:23.000 We need mainstream people to have the courage of their convictions and have a little integrity.

03:46:31.000 Because the only way to be America first and Catholic is to speak out against this.

03:46:35.000 You can't be that and do it any other way.

03:46:40.000 Because the Israeli lobby, the Jewish lobby, prevents American government from putting America first. 1.00

03:46:49.000 And the Jewish control of America prevents us from having a Christian government. 1.00

03:46:55.000 It's just mutually exclusive and they work against each other.

03:46:58.000 If we were to go out and say, we want Christian laws, the Jewish groups would be the first ones to oppose it. 0.99

03:47:04.000 Universally.

03:47:06.000 The atheist ones, the religious ones, the liberal ones, the conservative ones.

03:47:10.000 If we came out and said, we want Christian government now, it would be Jews united against it. 0.98

03:47:17.000 Jewish organizations, Jewish groups, again, across the spectrum.

03:47:21.000 And if we came out and said America first, it would be Zionists and other Jews, like Bill Ackman, who would, lately especially, who would be coming out and opposing that in every way, shape, and form. 0.96

03:47:36.000 Although that one's a little bit more

03:47:39.000 There's a little bit more diversity of opinion on that but nevertheless still is a full-spectrum Jewish support for Israel over America.

03:47:49.000 So if you want to be a patriot and if you believe that we ought to live in a Christian society we have to confront the Jewish lobby that controls America because it is neither America first nor is it 0.99

03:48:03.000 Christian.

03:48:04.000 Of course it cannot be.

03:48:05.000 And it can't be conservative, and it can't be nativist, and it can't be any of those things.

03:48:11.000 So, I'm not in favor of going after Jews or anything like that, but we want to live in a Christian country.

03:48:17.000 I think Jews should have the same rights and should be treated with respect and dignity in the same way that everybody else should.

03:48:25.000 But we should have Christian laws, and the state should receive guidance from Christianity, should receive guidance from the church.

03:48:34.000 And we also should have America be put before any other country. 0.78

03:48:39.000 I don't know.

03:49:01.000 But our country can't be held hostage by a religious ethnic minority that basically hates us. 1.00

03:49:07.000 I mean, you see the contempt. 0.95

03:49:09.000 If you don't absolutely worship the Jews, they hate you. 0.98

03:49:14.000 They have utter contempt and disdain for you. 0.62

03:49:18.000 But that's really the only patriotic position.

03:49:21.000 So...

03:49:26.000 Anyway, but that's that I think I'm gonna get out of here.

03:49:29.000 I'm not doing a show tonight.

03:49:30.000 I stream now for four hours I'm sick.

03:49:33.000 So I'm doing this instead of a show.

03:49:35.000 It's a little easier because I'm under the weather I have like I think I have strep throat or something So I'm not able to talk as much, you know on these reaction streams.

03:49:44.000 I don't have to talk as much So it's a little better.

03:49:46.000 I'm gonna read our super chats and then

03:49:51.000 I'm gonna end the stream, but I'm not doing a show tonight I might do one tomorrow if I feel better.

03:49:57.000 Otherwise, I'll probably just do another stream like this if that's okay with everybody But we're gonna take a look at the super chats, oh geez we got 90 super chats 90 So I will read all of these

03:50:22.000 Well, I'll read some of these.

03:50:24.000 I'll read the ones from today.

03:50:26.000 Everything else I'll try and catch up on tomorrow, okay?

03:50:30.000 Okay.

03:50:32.000 So I'll read the ones from today's stream.

03:50:35.000 Let's take a look.

03:50:39.000 Yeah, we just watched it.

03:50:40.000 It was great.

03:50:40.000 Filth!

03:51:00.000 Absolute fill.

03:51:00.000 I'm good on that.

03:51:00.000 Gotta up your protein intake.

03:51:01.000 Why?

03:51:01.000 So I can have big arms?

03:51:02.000 So I can be hot for you?

03:51:04.000 I've never understood people are always

03:51:30.000 It's always guys critiquing my appearance.

03:51:32.000 It's always guys that are like, you're not beefy enough.

03:51:36.000 Okay.

03:51:37.000 Well, fortunately, I'm not a day laborer.

03:51:39.000 I'm a talk show host.

03:51:43.000 So... I don't feel the need to, uh... Oh, you need to go and lift weights.

03:51:49.000 I'm good.

03:51:51.000 You can do that if you want.

03:51:53.000 Soxgroi percent ten dollars.

03:51:55.000 No message.

03:51:56.000 Thank you.

03:51:58.000 Yeah, I'm sick.

03:51:58.000 I don't feel good.

03:51:59.000 Hey, thank you very much for the big super chat.

03:52:02.000 Yeah, poor, poor people. 1.00

03:52:02.000 Shut up. 1.00

03:52:03.000 Shut up. 1.00

03:52:03.000 Oh, you're poor? 1.00

03:52:04.000 Tell me more about that.

03:52:05.000 I can't relate.

03:52:06.000 Actually, don't. 1.00

03:52:06.000 Shut up. 1.00

03:52:24.000 Yeah, thank you for the big superchat. 0.99

03:52:26.000 W. W. Rich.

03:52:26.000 W. Rich Superchatters.

03:52:27.000 Of course.

03:52:28.000 Oh, brother. 1.00

03:52:28.000 Well, sorry it's not Def Leppard or whatever the fuck faggot music you listen to. 1.00

03:52:43.000 That's a dumb observation. 0.99

03:52:58.000 John Dave Irving sent $109, Nick, thanks for the shoutout on my Rumble comments. 0.88

03:53:04.000 A lot of work for little reward went into those.

03:53:06.000 Unrelated, a Super Chatter, also putting in the work, hey D'Anibal Lecter, send you Super Chats that were not read.

03:53:13.000 Error?

03:53:14.000 Anyway, poor people are gross and glad you are feeling better after that raw egg detox.

03:53:20.000 Thank you for the big Super Chat John Dave Irving, yes. 0.96

03:53:23.000 You're right about poor people being gross. 1.00

03:53:26.000 Yeah, the raw egg detox.

03:53:28.000 Yeah, thank you.

03:53:29.000 Thank you for that and for the big super chat.

03:53:33.000 I don't know what super chats you're talking about, if they're real or not.

03:53:37.000 I don't know.

03:53:39.000 But I'll take a look tomorrow if I missed any, okay?

03:53:42.000 But thanks.

03:53:43.000 My old friend.

03:53:44.000 Well, they are human beings, but they do use words in that way.

03:53:56.000 Spence sent $5, a rabbi came to my high school once and took questions from the students.

03:54:02.000 I think he got 20 questions and didn't answer a single one.

03:54:05.000 They are all like the guy in this interview.

03:54:07.000 That's true, they are all like that.

03:54:10.000 Harold Flight sent $3.

03:54:12.000 I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

03:54:15.000 So much material today, your Jew voice acting has me rolling every single time. 1.00

03:54:19.000 Thanks so much Nick.

03:54:21.000 Thank you.

03:54:24.000 I got a comms internship at my university's LL, Jewish student group.

03:54:29.000 They had a nicer building than any frat by the way.

03:54:32.000 I think some Christians would be appalled by how much they hate us but most would indulge in the Christian hate. 1.00

03:54:38.000 True.

03:54:42.000 Did you see that the USCCB will put notes in the missile telling us not to take the gospel too seriously because it can be anti-semitic?

03:54:49.000 I'm loyal to Rome but the church isn't ours anymore.

03:54:52.000 That's not true.

03:54:55.000 You're just spreading heresy, and you're leading people to reject the church, which is self-indulgent.

03:55:01.000 Don't use your weakness to lead other people away from the church.

03:55:05.000 I'm Catholic, but I don't know, man. 1.00

03:55:08.000 Well, you can burn in hell, then, if you're not sure. 0.99

03:55:11.000 John Smith sent $50. 0.98

03:55:12.000 Candace is awesome. 0.99

03:55:14.000 You are awesome.

03:55:15.000 Great stream.

03:55:16.000 Feel better soon, big guy.

03:55:18.000 Thank you, man.

03:55:19.000 I appreciate it.

03:55:20.000 Yep.

03:55:20.000 I'm taking my vitamins.

03:55:21.000 Yeah.

03:55:21.000 Very epic.

03:55:21.000 Yeah.

03:55:21.000 Rumble Boomers.

03:55:22.000 Take a hike.

03:55:39.000 Hey, thank you man.

03:55:40.000 Glad to hear it.

03:55:40.000 That's a great story.

03:55:41.000 God bless.

03:56:02.000 And congratulations on everything.

03:56:05.000 I'd love to hear that.

03:56:06.000 That's really what it's all about. 1.00

03:56:12.000 No, I would murder her. 0.99

03:56:14.000 If my girlfriend cheated on me, I mean, obviously I'd break up with her. 1.00

03:56:20.000 Probably beat the shit out of her. 1.00

03:56:22.000 And if my wife did it, I would just beat the shit out of her and maybe kill her. 1.00

03:56:26.000 No, I'm kidding, of course. 1.00

03:56:27.000 I would never do that.

03:56:28.000 But there should definitely be... What are you supposed to do in this day and age?

03:56:34.000 If a woman cheats on you, what could you even do to her? 1.00

03:56:39.000 If a girl cheats on you in this day and age, you can't even lay a finger on her. 1.00

03:56:45.000 And if you do, she goes to the police and says, oh, he beat me, and then you get charged with domestic abuse, and then that's on your record forever, and then you can't vote, and you can't own a gun,

03:56:57.000 And if you have kids, they take the kids from you.

03:56:59.000 It's totally rigged.

03:57:02.000 Women can just do, they just can get away with anything. 1.00

03:57:05.000 And if you have a problem with it, they can just accuse you of being a rapist, or they could say that you beat them anyway. 0.75

03:57:12.000 So it's pretty dangerous stuff.

03:57:13.000 You just gotta pick the right one.

03:57:14.000 Keeper online.

03:57:35.000 Binion sent $10, even better, all that reading literature, and the practice writing and speaking and the holistic education causes us to be sharp and be able to see through mind games like Candace just did.

03:57:46.000 And it teaches us how to communicate our message most effectively. 0.95

03:57:50.000 Okay, you just sound like a bonehead, no offense. 1.00

03:57:54.000 But you just sound like a complete bonehead. 1.00

03:57:57.000 Completely remedial understanding of what I'm talking about. 0.98

03:58:02.000 Binion sent $5, so thanks for turning me away from the mindset that teenagers, Norma Eakins and Oliver Anthony people have that academia should be completely discarded.

03:58:12.000 Oh, I see.

03:58:13.000 We should go to college because college makes us smarter.

03:58:18.000 Oh, I think I finally get it.

03:58:21.000 So you're saying college makes us smarter?

03:58:24.000 All that reading makes us smarter? 1.00

03:58:27.000 Shut the fuck up, dude. 1.00

03:58:32.000 Just a refill when you get a chance. 1.00

03:58:34.000 And the check.

03:58:35.000 Thanks.

03:58:42.000 Like what?

03:58:45.000 I think I finally understand what you're saying about university.

03:58:48.000 The average person only has a surface level understanding.

03:58:52.000 But people who research, smart people, will not be tricked.

03:58:58.000 Even better, all the reading and writing causes us to be sharp and see through mind games like Hannes just did.

03:59:07.000 Like, you sound like you have Down Syndrome. 1.00

03:59:10.000 You sound like... You sound like a complete retard. 1.00

03:59:14.000 No offense. 1.00

03:59:19.000 Bro just discovered education?

03:59:23.000 Bro just discovered the intellect in education?

03:59:27.000 Oh, I think I finally get it!

03:59:29.000 If we read, then we know more!

03:59:32.000 And if we write, then we have comprehension!

03:59:39.000 Jeez. 1.00

03:59:40.000 Fucking brain damage. 1.00

03:59:43.000 Bro is legit brain damaged. 1.00

03:59:47.000 Concussed.

03:59:48.000 Did you get a concussion?

03:59:49.000 Did you just get in a fatal car crash?

03:59:52.000 Whiplash? 0.99

03:59:53.000 That's insane, dude.

03:59:56.000 I think I finally get it.

03:59:57.000 I think I finally know it.

03:59:58.000 When you go to college, you get smart. 1.00

04:00:00.000 If you're smart, you got dumb. 0.99

04:00:01.000 Yeah, really good. 1.00

04:00:02.000 Good job.

04:00:02.000 True.

04:00:03.000 So true.

04:00:21.000 Yo yo yo sent $3.

04:00:23.000 If it wasn't for the existence of raw nuns, Gilad Otzmoan and Dave Smith I don't know how I would cope with the fact people like this are real lol. 0.98

04:00:31.000 For real dude, for real. 0.99

04:00:32.000 Doge shit poster 69 sent $3. 0.99

04:00:35.000 How dare you call Rabbi Noseburg unholy. 1.00

04:00:38.000 All he did was sell butt plugs with his daughter. 0.98

04:00:40.000 Noseburg! 0.98

04:00:42.000 Chugger sent $10. 0.99

04:00:44.000 Damn someone get me a ticket to the next Blexit rally. 1.00

04:00:47.000 I need the Candace shirt. 0.99

04:00:49.000 For real, Candace W. Oh, the Jewish guy? 0.97

04:01:16.000 I doubt it.

04:01:17.000 I think he's just a... I think his ideology is just he's a... he's an institutionalist.

04:01:24.000 Because he's not even really left-wing.

04:01:25.000 He just is a shill for whatever the government says.

04:01:28.000 He's a shill for the current system. 0.88

04:01:31.000 So no, I think that's just his belief.

04:01:35.000 Thank you.

04:01:43.000 Let's go, thank you.

04:02:01.000 I did see that, yeah.

04:02:05.000 I think you're Israel-obsessed.

04:02:09.000 Dude is a total shill. 0.99

04:02:11.000 With his beanie.

04:02:12.000 I think you're just- you have Israel Derangement Syndrome. 0.98

04:02:14.000 Yeah, and I think you're bought by the Jews. 1.00

04:02:17.000 That's why you're still on YouTube. 1.00

04:02:28.000 Black-ass niggas going hard as fuck. 1.00

04:02:30.000 For real, the black-ass niggas are going hard as fuck lately. 1.00

04:02:32.000 It's kind of awesome. 1.00

04:02:33.000 Well, I've heard who it will be.

04:02:34.000 I've heard rumors, but I'm not really at liberty to say.

04:02:53.000 Yeah, she kept her composure pretty good.

04:02:54.000 Pretty well.

04:02:55.000 Yes she did.

04:02:55.000 Candice owned him.

04:02:56.000 Definitely not.

04:02:56.000 An interview between you and Candice actually doesn't seem that impossible anymore.

04:03:00.000 You should try and talk so you don't sound dumb. 1.00

04:03:25.000 Yes, she is black. 1.00

04:03:25.000 Thank you. 1.00

04:03:40.000 Thank you.

04:03:41.000 Yo yo yo sent $5.

04:03:42.000 For that.

04:03:43.000 It's amazing how little they consider the interests and safety of other groups and say, do whatever they want to us but expect us to care so deeply about their feelings and group interests. 0.99

04:03:51.000 They're hypocrites. 0.97

04:03:52.000 Candace has done a great job exposing this. 1.00

04:03:54.000 They're hypocrites. 0.98

04:03:55.000 That is amazing. 1.00

04:03:56.000 That's hypocritical. 0.94

04:03:58.000 Dick Coomer sent $3. 1.00

04:04:00.000 The only thing that comes out of this rabbi's mouth is shit. 1.00

04:04:03.000 I swear, he must crawl around the sewers under Chabad to stuff his mouth full of shit. 1.00

04:04:07.000 Okay, gross. 1.00

04:04:10.000 Yeah, get with the program, buddy.

04:04:11.000 Yeah, something like that.

04:04:35.000 That's what I'm wondering.

04:04:35.000 When are they gonna defend her?

04:04:54.000 Oh yeah, they're all like that.

04:04:55.000 And they will talk about Jews as a collective and they will include the so-called Jews in name only within that. 0.63

04:05:00.000 Everything they say

04:05:23.000 Yeah, you do.

04:05:24.000 Yes, you do.

04:05:40.000 But they'll say anything in the current moment to salvage their position.

04:05:44.000 Just like, well, the problem is you call them Jews. 1.00

04:05:47.000 You know, there's jerks in every race. 1.00

04:05:49.000 Just call them jerks. 1.00

04:05:51.000 But then they'll go and talk about the Muslims, the blacks, the Palestinians. 1.00

04:05:55.000 You know, and the same thing with the liberal Jews, like the other guy said. 0.83

04:05:59.000 You know, when you attack liberal Jews who may run Hollywood or that were the Apollo Bureau and the Soviet Union, they'll say, well, they're not real Jews. 0.67

04:06:09.000 In any other conversation, they will say, yes, of course they are real Jews.

04:06:13.000 They'll just say, well, they're misguided.

04:06:16.000 So, they just lie.

04:06:22.000 They're not in good faith.

04:06:28.000 I don't know where she would go.

04:06:29.000 I don't think anyone would have her.

04:06:31.000 I don't think Tucker would have her because Tucker is not based on this at all.

04:06:38.000 Okay, I can't read your name, dude.

04:06:39.000 Oh, you are?

04:06:40.000 Oh, okay.

04:06:40.000 Oh, thank you for telling me that.

04:06:42.000 I'm not surprised at all.

04:07:08.000 Yes.

04:07:08.000 Why isn't this one playing?

04:07:09.000 Yep.

04:07:31.000 Yep.

04:07:58.000 No one actually believes I said that.

04:08:01.000 This is just getting really dark.

04:08:03.000 I have no idea what they mean by that.

04:08:05.000 Benjamin Aaron Shapiro sent $3. 1.00

04:08:08.000 Stupid Catholics. 1.00

04:08:09.000 May you all die childless. 1.00

04:08:11.000 Don't you go and get it? 1.00

04:08:12.000 I orchestrated all of this.

04:08:14.000 Rabbi retaliation.

04:08:15.000 Lawsuit.

04:08:16.000 Accusations.

04:08:17.000 Etc. 0.97

04:08:18.000 This is my plot to have an excuse to fire this African American. 1.00

04:08:21.000 Ben. 0.82

04:08:26.000 Uh, yeah, true.

04:08:27.000 He probably is orchestrating it.

04:08:29.000 Or he's a part of it in some way.

04:08:30.000 Thanks.

04:08:31.000 Yeah, great to be back.

04:08:32.000 Yeah, probably.

04:08:49.000 Wouldn't that be sick?

04:08:54.000 That would... Hey, she's totally welcome to come.

04:08:57.000 I don't know... You know, I can't... I don't have any ability to gauge her interest in something like that, but she's absolutely invited.

04:09:07.000 Guest of honor, truly.

04:09:08.000 But I doubt she's trying to make that happen.

04:09:17.000 Absolutely.

04:09:18.000 Thank you.

04:09:19.000 That is true, it is a curse.

04:09:20.000 You're not the only one with the curse of knowledge.

04:09:38.000 Yeah, that's... people have been talking about that for years.

04:09:40.000 Who knows?

04:09:41.000 It could be that, it could be anything.

04:09:42.000 I don't know.

04:09:43.000 I've heard that before.

04:10:02.000 Like it's brand new.

04:10:03.000 Did you- I noticed!

04:10:05.000 Yeah.

04:10:05.000 It's been- that's been a meme for literally five years.

04:10:08.000 Yup.

04:10:08.000 That is political power.

04:10:09.000 Dipshit. 0.99

04:10:09.000 It's all the same. 0.99

04:10:11.000 I mean, I'm in favor of people doing politics.

04:10:31.000 Annoying sent $20, even the Messianic Jews that claim they accept Jesus as the Messiah are entitled. 1.00

04:10:37.000 They came to my church to talk about the Judaism of Jesus kept referring to the Bible as your Bible and talked in circles the whole time.

04:10:44.000 The priest described them as our older brother.

04:10:46.000 I cringed internally.

04:10:48.000 Yeah, that's just their personality, honestly.

04:10:51.000 Traxton Wilberford Shear sent $10.

04:10:53.000 Get a massage chair and do the Super Chats with a small remote like for presentations.

04:10:57.000 Great, more suggestions.

04:10:58.000 Thank you.

04:11:00.000 Thank you for that.

04:11:01.000 Okay, alright, alright, alright.

04:11:03.000 Chill with that, bruh.

04:11:04.000 Yeah, I saw that. 1.00

04:11:30.000 Baby, I'd sent $100, $100 a month or you're gay. 1.00

04:11:34.000 I don't make the rules. 0.97

04:11:36.000 Been here since the original Owen Benjamin moon debate drama.

04:11:39.000 Stayed with you the whole time since. 0.75

04:11:41.000 Real knickhead here.

04:11:42.000 07 to the king. 0.62

04:11:44.000 Thank you.

04:11:45.000 Thank you for the big super chat. 1.00

04:11:46.000 True, $100 a month or you're gay. 1.00

04:11:48.000 $100 a month or you're poor. 0.99

04:11:49.000 Honestly.

04:11:50.000 No, but thank you, man.

04:11:51.000 I appreciate it.

04:11:53.000 Since the moon debate.

04:11:54.000 Yeah, he thought I was controlled by NASA.

04:11:57.000 Which was kind of funny.

04:12:00.000 I mean look, I believe in the moon landing, and I'm a round earther.

04:12:07.000 But I'm not paid by NASA.

04:12:08.000 I wish I was paid by NASA, but I'm not.

04:12:12.000 But yeah, that was kind of a funny chapter.

04:12:14.000 Me and him are cool though now.

04:12:15.000 We squash the beef, which is good.

04:12:18.000 But thank you, man.

04:12:18.000 I appreciate it.

04:12:19.000 I never said that because the doctor's plot happened in what, 1948?

04:12:22.000 So I don't think that's true.

04:12:23.000 Okay, LARP.

04:12:47.000 Yeah, Alex Jones said it was leftists.

04:12:56.000 What was the tweet?

04:12:57.000 He said, um... I think he was responding even to the Candace Owens thing.

04:13:06.000 He said, oh, it's always leftists.

04:13:09.000 Yeah.

04:13:10.000 He reposts Keith Woods. 0.83

04:13:14.000 ...saying deranged rabbi calls Canada someone's an anti-Semite for using the term hag.

04:13:18.000 Alex Jones, the left, wants total control of all language.

04:13:22.000 Really, dude?

04:13:23.000 Yeah, that's about right.

04:13:26.000 It's the left.

04:13:27.000 Sure it is, bud.

04:13:30.000 And then there's me!

04:13:30.000 Then there's a million me clips.

04:13:32.000 ...the people, the idea... The ADL is like a leftist globalist brainwashing operation.

04:13:38.000 I don't think...

04:13:42.000 What is this brainwashing operation?

04:13:44.000 Is it?

04:13:46.000 The ADL, formerly known as the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, is a New York-based international Jewish non-governmental organization and advocacy group... ...and the State of Israel.

04:14:03.000 That's what it is.

04:14:04.000 Does that sound anti-Semitic?

04:14:05.000 It kind of does, but that's what it is.

04:14:09.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

04:14:10.000 The Luft!

04:14:11.000 W. Keith, by the way.

04:14:12.000 W. Minion.

04:14:12.000 Wanted a Minion t-shirt?

04:14:14.000 Pfft, bruh.

04:14:40.000 Look, when we're announcing it, we will announce it and you will know, okay?

04:14:43.000 Stalin was based.

04:15:04.000 Thank you for the big super chat!

04:15:06.000 Okay!

04:15:08.000 That's our last super chat.

04:15:10.000 I will read the rest of them tomorrow because there's some from last week, there's some from earlier this week, but I'm ready to call it.

04:15:19.000 I've been streaming for

04:15:22.000 Four hours.

04:15:23.000 So that's gonna do it for me tonight, and I'm not gonna be doing a show.

04:15:28.000 Like I said, I'm under the weather, so I'm not really feeling up to a full monologue, but I will try to be back tomorrow.

04:15:34.000 I'll let you know.

04:15:35.000 If I don't do a show tomorrow, I'll just do another stream like this.

04:15:38.000 So make sure to follow me on Rumble.

04:15:40.000 Smash the follow button here.

04:15:42.000 We had the biggest stream on Rumble today, over 10,000 viewers at one point, at peak.

04:15:47.000 Number one stream on Rumble, let's go!

04:15:50.000 So smash the follow button, smash the like button, follow me on Telegram, t.me slash NickJFuentes.

04:15:57.000 I'll keep you posted.

04:15:58.000 I'm either doing a show tomorrow or I'll be doing another casual stream like this.

04:16:03.000 But that's it for me tonight.

04:16:05.000 Big thank you to all the Super Chatters.

04:16:07.000 Thank you everybody for watching.

04:16:08.000 Hope you enjoyed the stream.

04:16:10.000 And I will see you tomorrow.

04:16:12.000 Let me just pick out a song here.

04:16:13.000 What's gonna be my... What's gonna be my outro song?

04:16:22.000 How about a little Vultures, huh?

04:16:24.000 Alright.

04:16:25.000 I'll see you guys tomorrow.

04:16:26.000 W. Candace.

04:16:29.000 W. Me.

04:16:29.000 Alright.

04:16:36.000 I said I'm way, way crazy. 0.81

04:16:43.000 Bipolar, anti-semite. 0.78

04:16:45.000 And I'm still the king.

04:16:48.000 Still the king.

04:16:54.000 Still the king.

04:16:57.000 Think the headlines was my kryptonite.

04:17:03.000 Still the king.

04:17:04.000 Still the king.

04:17:48.000 We're good to go.

04:17:53.000 We're good to go.

04:17:59.000 We're good to go. 0.99

04:18:29.000 All that word of mouth couldn't take me out After all I let your kids in the house going crazy Cause I'm still playing Still playing Still playing Deadlines, I gave a shit like Still playing Still 0.99

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - March 19, 2024

Candace Owens DESTROYS "Unholy Rabbi" Barclay

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