Live reaction to Piers Morgan's full interview with Ye on CNN's Good Morning America, where he discusses his thoughts on the Ye interview and how he thinks about Jewish media and how they treat him. Also, a new casual format for Casual Friday, where we react live to the latest news and gossip, including the latest in the Trump/Russia scandal, the latest on the Uran Uranus deal, and much, much more! America First is a show where the host Nicholas J. Fuentes ( ) hosts a casual Friday show where he's not wearing the shirt and tie and is talking about anything and everything going on in the world. Today's Casual Friday guest is none other than comedian and podcaster, Ye! We'll be reacting to the full, feature-length version of Ye's interview with CNN's "Good Morning America's" PiersMorgan, which was released today. Enjoy the show, and don't forget to subscribe to America First on Apple Podcasts and subscribe on your favorite streaming platform so you don't miss the next casual Friday Casual Friday show! Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends and family about this casual Friday casual Friday! -Nick & Cozy! Cheers, -Jon and "America First" - Cheers! Jon & Nick Music: "The Good Life" by Zapsplat & "Goodbye Outer Space" by Jeff Perla by Suneaters, "Outro Music: "Piers Morgan" by Skating in Space (feat. by Fountains & "I'm Too Effortless" by Fade (featuring: "Mr. & The Good Morning ) Thank you for listening to this episode of America First, by The Good Life by Pizzi & the Good Morning Outro by Squeepers ( ) - "A Little Late" by Sisyphus ( ) and "The Puff & Coz ( ) - "Upshotdog" by Mr. & Mrs. Peezy ( ) ( ) by Fergie ( ) on Soundcloud ( ) & "The Best Thing" by ( ) . & . , in honor of this amazing interview with Mr. Morgan's new album, "The Gift That Keeps On Giving on YouTube ( ) is out now! and to be released on Friday, July 20th, 2019!
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00:02:09.000And we have a little bit of a different kind of a show for you tonight.
00:02:13.000Sort of a slow news day, slow news week.
00:02:16.000So I figured we would react live to the full feature-length Ye interview with Piers Morgan, which just came out today.
00:02:27.000It's an hour and 40 minutes so it's gonna be a good it's gonna be a long stream it's gonna be a good healthy stream so we'll be live reacting to this like I said it just came out today you might have seen pieces of it or clips from it I think a 16 minute edited version was posted earlier in the week but this is this is the full one that just got posted today so
00:05:10.000You know, honestly, I hope that people realize that the real... I hope you're beginning to understand and maybe beginning to realize that, honestly, the real problem in the world is people.
00:07:28.000They're going to call me names for my truth, but these experiences that I'm telling you about are factually things that I've went through and things that I refuse to keep going through and things that I'm not going to let my children go through and things that I'm not going to let my peers go through.
00:08:06.000To really explain yourself, because I think that sometimes soundbites about people, perhaps taken out of context sometimes, can create a very distorted view of what a person really thinks.
00:08:18.000What do you think, looking back over the last few weeks in particular, what do you think have been the biggest misconceptions about you?
00:08:29.000Well, I think there's a left agenda to silence anyone that goes against the agenda.
00:08:40.000Let's go back to Trump running for office.
00:08:44.000Back in 2015, everyone that was around me in my industry, in the entertainment industry, told me that my life would be over.
00:08:53.000I would be on the wrong side of history.
00:08:55.000I've even had threats to my life for wearing the Trump hat.
00:09:00.000And it even ended up in, you know, destroying my family and also making it where I have to raise my children differently because I actually am a person that's classified as black.
00:09:16.000You know, I classify myself as Jew, but
00:09:22.000A person is classified that had been given that title in America as black in America that I'm supposed to stay in a block of a vote.
00:09:35.000OK, it sounds just as racist as a black drinking fountain.
00:09:40.000And I'm my dad, you know, called me and said, you know, the thing that the left fear about, yay, or makes me the most dangerous is I'm rich.
00:10:10.000But what I'm not going to let happen is, I'm not going to let my kids take over Yeezy someday and have a boardroom telling them what to do and talking behind their back.
00:10:22.000I'm not going to let that happen to my children.
00:10:27.000And the other powerful icons in black music, when they were at the top of the game, they didn't fight at that point.
00:10:34.000They were too afraid of losing whatever they had.
00:10:37.000So by the time they wanted to make a difference, by the time Bill Cosby wanted to buy NBC, he didn't have the Cosby Show at that time to be able to stand up when they wanted to literally throw him in jail, you know, when they actually did throw him in jail.
00:10:51.000So people have to understand just the bravery.
00:12:36.000And we actually just went over it with the Darren Beattie interview.
00:12:40.000I actually want to pull that up because it's relevant.
00:12:46.000And I've talked about this on my show for a long time, and recently I saw Darren said something similar in this interview he did, which is that
00:12:57.000When you're talking about regime change, when you're talking about these ideas which are censored and which carry this high social cost to talk about, you know, what you would call the red pill or the third rail type of subjects, there's sort of two ways you can go about it.
00:13:15.000And the one way is to just talk about it.
00:13:17.000The one way is that you talk about what's going on.
00:13:21.000You talk about, for example, the Jewish influence or whatever it is.
00:13:57.000And a lot of people may say they're doing that sort of conscientiously, and people say that, for example, in politics, that they're going to infiltrate the system, they may agree with me, they may share my views, they agree with me about Jews, they agree with me about race, they agree with me about these kinds of things.
00:14:17.000But they know that if they said it, it would be career suicide.
00:14:20.000They know that if they said it, they'd be ostracized, that they would be targeted.
00:14:25.000So instead, they pretend they don't have those views, they lie, and their idea is that they're going to work their way up inside the system that they oppose, and then use their influence in the system to bring it down eventually, to empower people that share those views.
00:14:44.000But what always ends up happening, and this is what Ye just said about Bill Cosby, and this is what he said about himself, is that people will get to that point.
00:14:52.000He said that, you know, according to Tupac, you gotta get your money right before you go to war.
00:14:57.000A lot of people will get their money right, they will get to that position, and then, at that point, they've forgotten why they got into it.
00:15:05.000At that point, they're so afraid of losing what they've built, their money, their fame, their legacy, their reputation,
00:15:13.000That at your peak, and nobody knows their peak, your perceived pinnacle, when you have real, serious, national, tangible success,
00:15:26.000They say, well, I don't want to lose what I have.
00:15:28.000So that big idea that we had at the beginning where we're going to get our money right and we're going to infiltrate and we're going to level up and we're going to rise through the institutions.
00:15:38.000Well, once they make it, once they get to that point where they have some influence,
00:15:44.000They say, now I don't want to do that.
00:16:07.000If you climb your way up the ladder inside the system and say, well, you know, I'll blow the whistle on all this when I become powerful, and you get on TV or you get into Congress or something,
00:16:20.000Well, your power and your ability to blow the whistle, your influence, is contingent on the system that you would oppose.
00:16:28.000And the day, or the hour, or the minute that you expose yourself as an enemy of the system, the system will withdraw its support for you.
00:16:40.000The system will withdraw its patronage.
00:17:00.000And so, to the extent that you have influence, to the extent that you have clout, or power, or money, you only have it insofar as it is on loan to you from the real power.
00:17:13.000So, if you're in Congress, as an example, it's not your seat.
00:17:20.000Your seat and your power are on loan to you from your donors, from the leader of the party, from the media, from the staff, whoever you're dependent on, whoever you're entangled with and dependent on, your power is on loan from them.
00:17:40.000And so the second that you go out there and say, now I'm against the system,
00:17:45.000So much of it is revoked, and it's not to say that you have no influence on your own, but probably 80% of it, 90% of it is contingent.
00:17:55.000People say, I'm gonna become so powerful, and then they do, and then they turn and oppose the system, and they realize that all that power they thought they had, I infiltrated, I worked my way up the ladder,
00:18:09.00090% of it has just been taken out of the equation because it was dependent on these entangling alliances and dependencies and donors and things like that.
00:18:53.000If you can't speak out against certain people or a certain thing, if you can't really speak your mind, is it really your influence?
00:19:00.000If you would lose this, that, and the other, if you really did something independent, if you really did something free, was that really your power to begin with?
00:21:07.000He says it's clearly necessary to also cultivate an elite, both cultural and intellectual, and capture the institutions that serve to reinforce your ideas once you get political power so you don't have to find yourself again in the situation where you nominally have government but functionally you're kind of impotent.
00:21:25.000So he means that we need to create an elite class.
00:21:27.000We don't just want to win an election.
00:21:54.000Insofar as it's adjacent to this approach of quietly recapturing the institutions, infiltrating the elites without rocking the boat too much, etc.
00:22:03.000It can turn into a bit of a LARP and transition into a dangerous acquiescence or quietism that provides comfort to people who are red-pilled but not based, if you know what I mean.
00:22:15.000To be red-pilled means you know the facts, but to be based means you're a creature capable of withstanding the coordinated social pressures smothering you if you dare to challenge the system publicly and aggressively.
00:22:30.000And so I think while there's some truth to this idea, it can also function as a rationalization for people who are constitutionally red-pilled but not based.
00:23:01.000I'm content to resume my role as a glorified IT support for the regime.
00:23:06.000So yes, there's value to the elitist message, but there's also a danger and we should be careful in the way we promote it precisely because it is so attractive to certain people who are essentially weak and just want to be reassured there's nothing wrong with inaction.
00:23:26.000And there was one other part too that I thought was really good, but I don't know if I'll be able to find it right away.
00:23:36.000But anyway, so the point is, you know, how many people with real power are going to aggressively and directly confront the system like Trump and Ye have?
00:23:49.000If you don't have people doing that, you can't win.
00:25:37.000I'm five minutes in and everything that he's saying is completely coherent It's complete sentences, you know, and I know that maybe that sounds like Oh complete sentences But that's not what a crazy that's not what a person who is completely irrational or having some kind of an episode sounds like so
00:25:58.000I don't want to jump in too much because here's what I honestly think.
00:26:02.000I think you have an extraordinary mind.
00:26:04.000You have a number of extraordinary talents.
00:26:12.000What has been interesting to me is to watch the furore which has erupted in the last few weeks over a series of statements that you've made which have caused, as you know, a lot of offence.
00:26:24.000And I guess before I get into them, I'm just curious as to
00:26:28.000Whether you think there is a line for free speech, I, listen, I completely agree with you that there is a war against free speech, that people are, you know, treading on eggshells all the time, terrified of expressing honestly held opinions in case they get cancelled.
00:26:42.000I think we're living in a really insidious era where liberals are behaving like fascists.
00:26:49.000So on that you have absolutely my agreement, but my question for you,
00:26:54.000Is, do you believe there are limits to free speech?
00:27:05.000Tarantino can write a movie about slavery where actually him and Jamie, they got the idea from me because the idea for Django, I pitched to Jamie Foxx and Quentin Tarantino as the video for Gold Digger.
00:27:20.000And then Tarantino turned it into a film.
00:27:22.000But in that film, he creates a context where Leonardo DiCaprio is allowed to use the word s*** multiple times within that context.
00:27:34.000So Hollywood's job is to frame things, and they allow what content is accepted and what's not.
00:28:25.000That's a really good point though about Django Unchained.
00:28:29.000You know it may seem simple but it's like
00:28:55.000Obviously in that movie you got a white guy saying the n-word so it's not it's not the word in itself.
00:29:00.000It's not it's not He's a character in a movie saying those things and that's a major Hollywood production But he can say those things because of the context because we know it's a movie and because there's a certain narrative and so on and so forth And so what he's saying is really they're just banning
00:29:36.000And, well, you can't say this because this is offensive.
00:29:39.000Well, we can say words that are offensive and there can be offensive statements.
00:29:44.000It's just about for what, towards what, is the problem.
00:29:48.000When you say you're more Matisse than Picasso, as somebody who's a fan of Matisse and Picasso actually, I spent a lot of time in in Santa Fe where they all used to paint together.
00:30:11.000When me and Drake went to do the show last year for prison reform and to bring awareness to the incarceration of Larry Hoover, I sent him articles about the relationship of Matisse and Picasso and the need for these people.
00:30:33.000You need to have that, you know, I need to go into the bar and
00:30:41.000That's a form of a modern-day bar, right?
00:30:44.000And just hear Drake's song playing back-to-back.
00:30:47.000And Drake needs to go into that same Starbucks just in a different city and see people wearing Yeezys.
00:30:53.000And it puts us both back into the studio.
00:30:57.000You know, God sets up these almost similar characters, these doppelgangers.
00:31:02.000It makes me really realize God has a sense of humor.
00:31:05.000Like, why is John Galliano and Marc Jacobs the exact same human being?
00:31:12.000Just just place in a different place or why does God have it where Bernard Arnault cannot purchase Gucci, not even through the Chinese market?
00:31:23.000God does this to remind us that we are not God, because when you take people like Elon Musk and Bernard Arnault and Trump or Jack Ma,
00:32:51.000So you just said something very inflammatory about President Biden.
00:32:54.000It will, as you know, offend a lot of people.
00:32:57.000And it will particularly offend people who work in mental health.
00:32:59.000You say you should not use a word like retarded.
00:33:03.000But you say that because you yourself have had mental health issues,
00:33:07.000That entitles you to use that kind of word as an insult.
00:33:11.000Now I would say that's an arguable point.
00:33:13.000I've had, my issue, my issue is I've had mental health allegations.
00:33:19.000So do you believe that you have any form of mental illness?
00:33:25.000I believe that I suffered from exhaustion.
00:33:29.000I believe that I suffered from exhaustion.
00:33:32.000I suffered from being lied to constantly by the people around me.
00:33:37.000And I believe those things can drive anyone to a point of maximum exhaustion.
00:33:44.000But I also believe that I'm extremely brilliant, and I'm here to make the world a better place, and I'm tired of the left media trying to pick on me.
00:33:55.000And y'all picked on me enough, and y'all finally touched the person that's not gonna stand, that's not gonna take it anymore.
00:34:04.000And that's part of the reason why I'm on Uncensored, because what they'd like is for me to be quiet.
00:34:11.000Interesting thing about racism and cancel culture, it's kind of similar, right?
00:34:20.000I can go into the Gucci store at age 18, and I just assume that people think that I'm about to steal, so I buy more things.
00:34:29.000With cancel culture, when I brought Marilyn Manson on stage with me when he was dealing with allegations, my stepbrother Marilyn was canceling himself.
00:34:40.000What they had so many people comment on my White Lives Matter t-shirt, there's people who are saying right there on Fashion Week, when are you going home?
00:35:01.000If I talk to a black person that makes under a million dollars a year, they really are—they really relate to the George Floyd comments and feel hurt that I would even
00:35:18.000Uh, bring it up and question the approach.
00:35:21.000They have multiple documentaries on the death of JFK, but we're just supposed to believe this one media outlet version that preyed on our trauma and our pain.
00:35:34.000And then, if I talk to rich black people, uh, or white people, Jew or Catholic or atheist,
00:35:43.000They're really into the Jewish media comment because it affects their business interests.
00:36:52.000You looked at, like, even when I was on No Jumper, when I was on No Jumper with Adam22 and AD and Flaco and Sneeko, but the three on the host, the three that were hosting it, they didn't even really want to talk about the Jewish stuff.
00:37:08.000I mean, they did, and they kind of conceded.
00:37:10.000They didn't even really care about that.
00:37:11.000They were like, oh, yeah, because I'm, like, known as an anti-Semite.
00:37:14.000I'm, like, known as a Holocaust denier.
00:37:16.000That was not even, like, contentious to them at all.
00:37:20.000You remember when I was talking with Adam, he was like, oh yeah, well, they cancelled them.
00:37:27.000It's not even worth arguing about it because they proved it was true because he called out the Jewish media and then the Jewish media cancelled them is basically what he said.
00:38:53.000Let me just pick you up on the two things you've mentioned.
00:38:56.000The first one is what you said about George Floyd.
00:39:00.000And the reality of that, it's not a media interpretation of how he died, because the Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner concluded that Floyd died from cardiopulmonary arrest.
00:39:12.000His heart stopped, complicated by the way the police restrained him and compressed his neck.
00:39:17.000Now, he also said there were other contributing
00:40:30.000I just read you what the coroner said.
00:40:34.000So we can have 20 different perspectives on how JFK died, but us as black people, not only can we only vote one way, we're not allowed to have any other perspectives, and that the area for George Floyd, where he passed, the murder rate is up 50%, and nothing, this is so-called movement, but it didn't move blacks anywhere.
00:40:56.000Right, now listen, I will say there are legitimate questions about the Black Lives Matter movement, no question.
00:41:04.000But on the specific point about how George Floyd died, I don't think it's in question about what actually killed him.
00:41:11.000It was that police officer with his knee on his neck.
00:41:42.000You can't tell me, you can't tell me, you can't tell me with your accent that me as an American, Jew, black person, that I cannot question that death and question the means he had.
00:42:06.000I cannot see because you distract my thoughts and then you try to make me look like a crazy person and you feel you have the right to cut me off and I've proven you guys don't want it with me.
00:42:42.000I'm worth more money than you and I have more influence than you and have, you know, Piers Morgan from a different country saying, well, the, uh, I'm not going to do an English accent because that would be racist.
00:43:43.000The civil rights lawyer Lee Merritt responded to what you said about George Floyd's death and said,
00:43:48.000While one cannot defame the dead, the family of George Floyd is considering suit—which they're now doing, as you know, they're suing you for $250 million—for Ye's false statements about the manner of his death.
00:43:59.000Claiming Floyd died from fentanyl, not the brutality established criminally and civilly, undermines and diminishes the Floyd family's fight.
00:44:43.000I can, like, make a dinosaur out of a femur, right?
00:44:47.000So if I'm making a dinosaur out of a femur, and I'm looking at a documentary that says George Floyd was telling his two roommates they want a tall guy like me, and on the day of his death,
00:45:13.000What do you think I feel could have happened in that situation?
00:45:18.000All right, well, honestly, if I'm being honest with you, I would say that because of your brilliant, beautiful, creative mind, as you put it, and I don't dispute that at all, you've got an extraordinary mind.
00:45:28.000And I can see that in the way that you conduct interviews.
00:45:31.000You go off on very long tangents, but they're sort of fascinating.
00:45:34.000I find it fascinating to listen to you.
00:45:36.000I'm not saying you don't have a right to question... Sort of, quite.
00:45:38.000These are like Capote-level fascinating tangents.
00:46:59.000I'm going back to my original question in a way, which is simply this.
00:47:03.000I'm not saying you don't have a right to question how George Floyd died, but given the world watched that horrifying video of that policeman's knee on his neck, and given that is what the coroner said caused his death, albeit he had other underlying conditions including fentanyl intoxication,
00:47:20.000When the family sees someone like you, who's hugely influential, you're known around the world, questioning how their loved one died, they find that very hurtful.
00:48:05.000So he does this interview to clear the air, or whatever it is, and then they're gonna do the debate.
00:48:10.000Then they say, oh, okay, well, let's do the debate then.
00:48:13.000Oh, okay, so let's do the debate then on whether George Floyd died.
00:48:17.000And here Ye is explaining, well, what I meant by it is this.
00:48:20.000I think it's interesting that, you know, the rich cared more about the Jew media comment, and the black people and the poor people cared more.
00:48:32.000If you look at what's happening in the neighborhood the crime rate is way up and nobody cares about that and so the black trauma was weaponized against black people to achieve a certain political result and what do you think about these details in the documentary which you didn't even watch which you didn't even see the other position we're not allowed to have another and and so he sees and then he throws it back and said you know what do you make of my argument and Pierce throws it back and it's just
00:48:59.000It's just this emotional blackmail stuff.
00:49:03.000Well, you're so powerful, you're so famous, and the poor family, they're so hurt by this.
00:49:10.000This video where the knee is on his poor neck for... Like, don't you understand that they don't have any arguments?
00:49:58.000You know, because if they're going to have a discussion, then have the discussion, which entails a back and forth.
00:50:06.000And that means that you need to hear what the other person says, and understand it, and then respond to the substance of what was said.
00:50:14.000And so Ye says, and he's making, I think, valid, cogent, relevant points, which are what?
00:50:25.000That if the murder rate went up where George Floyd was killed, after all was said and done, and there's no coverage about that, then was that really about the well-being of black people?
00:50:37.000If the movement was intended to advance the cause of black welfare, the welfare of the black people, then how could you say that it achieved that if black people are worse off in that neighborhood afterward?
00:50:53.000And what's more, there's a political agenda clearly, and the other side hasn't even heard the contrary argument.
00:51:01.000You know, the mainstream peers hasn't even seen, oh well I saw part of it, oh well I don't really know what you're talking about anyway, aren't you just, don't you just feel guilty about the hurt feelings you're causing with your questions?
00:51:16.000Our whole, the whole political conversation is like this.
00:52:42.000And there are things that should cause hurt feelings.
00:52:47.000But we only hone in on and focus in on that and draw attention to it when it's things that the media doesn't want us to talk about, that the powerful don't want us to talk about.
00:52:57.000And I know I'm, you know, this is not really necessarily groundbreaking stuff, but it's important to break out of the, to stop being manipulated and break the cycle to recognize the emotional manipulation at work.
00:53:11.000That's all, they always go to, these are the new words, they say hurt,
00:53:18.000They talk about harm, harm prevention, and causes harm.
00:53:23.000There's this new, like, sociology vocabulary that all these faggots use now, where they say hurt, and harm, and trauma, and all these kinds of things.
00:53:35.000Instead of using words like, you know, certainty, and truth, and veracity, and... Instead of talking about the strength,
00:53:45.000Like this circumstance with George Floyd's family.
00:53:46.000Now I'm gonna ask you a question again.
00:54:15.000With my imagination, if you see, when you see in the documentary that George Floyd's two roommates said, he said, they want a tall guy like me, they want a tall guy like me, and that he prayed extra long on the day of his passing, where do you think that takes my beautiful mind?
00:54:35.000I think it can take you to a place where you want to believe something which may not be true.
00:54:41.000I'm not saying it's not, I'm just saying all the evidence points... You didn't answer it.
00:54:44.000Well, I'm giving you an honest answer.
00:55:38.000You're pressing the agenda of the pain and trauma and trauma economy that is pressed on my people by the left.
00:55:49.000Actually, the trauma I think that was implemented to George Floyd was from a vile, white, racist police officer who kneed him to his death.
00:55:59.000And I agree with the coroner's findings because I don't see any reason why the coroner would invent that.
00:56:55.000Do you think that there's any scenario where Piers is going to allow the conversation to go in a direction where Piers is going to change his mind?
00:57:05.000Or where the show is going to be perceived as being sympathetic or positive towards Ye?
00:59:02.000Asking tough questions doesn't mean that you're not going to accept an acceptable answer, that you're unwilling to engage with or accept a reasonable answer.
00:59:14.000I would understand if peers were playing devil's advocate and asking that and said, oh okay, well let's explore that, let's go into that.
00:59:23.000But you see, the whole approach is dismissive.
01:00:08.000That's being insistent on framing the conversation in a certain way and disarming Ye with charm and pretending to be friendly and saying, oh yeah, you're funny, oh sure, you're such a genius, oh yeah, you're like Capote.
01:00:24.000Anyway, tell me about all the people's feelings you're hurting and how you believe things that aren't true.
01:00:30.000And I'm just gonna dismiss everything you say.
01:00:32.000Even though you're a genius, I'm just gonna dismiss everything you say and not really take it seriously.
01:01:38.000Here's your chance to clarify what you meant by DEFCON 3 on Jewish people.
01:01:48.000Well, thank you for allowing me to say what I meant due to the fact that I was blocked by Jewish people after I said that.
01:01:58.000I wasn't actually allowed to say what I was about to say.
01:02:03.000But what I was going to say is, I was going to talk about all of the contracts
01:02:10.000All of the misdealings that I dealt with as an entertainer, being that I'm an entertainer, I've been wronged so many times by Jewish businessmen.
01:02:23.000And the reason why I say people, if a black man is caught in the car with drugs or a gun,
01:02:31.000And there's three other black guys in the car with him.
01:02:36.000So the reason why I say people is, I want those businessmen's wives and fathers, mothers, grandmothers, and kids to ask them, why is Ye so mad?
01:03:06.000If you look at a picture of her at age 14, this person is beautiful, like one of the most beautiful people that God has ever created, right?
01:03:17.000And if any man did her wrong at a young age, she would get to the point where maybe she would
01:03:48.000My problem with what you've said, I'll be straight with you, is if I, as a white man, posted tomorrow on my Instagram, I'm a bit sleepy tonight but when I wake up I'm going DEATH CON 3 on black people, what would you think?
01:04:14.000On the specific though, if I simply said, in other words, all black people, was the implication of what I said, I would get rightly cancelled, I would get rightly vilified and abused.
01:04:25.000You, I suspect, would be outraged by a white person saying such a thing, because you wouldn't make any distinction about whether I was talking about certain black business people I'd fallen out with or whatever.
01:04:36.000You would think I was judging an entire populace by the colour of their skin.
01:04:40.000You are, by saying Jewish people, on Jewish people, you're not saying Jewish businessmen, accountants, whatever, that you've had a problem with.
01:04:49.000You're basically saying in that statement, all Jewish people, which is why it caused such offence.
01:04:54.000And I'm curious whether you even, as you wrote those words, understood what Jewish people actually would feel when you said that, and didn't make any specific references to any individuals.
01:05:08.000Maybe they would feel how all my people have felt.
01:05:12.000Maybe they would feel the pain of when a black artist looks up and they've completely been raped by five Jewish businessmen.
01:05:24.000And there's multiple accounts of this happening.
01:05:26.000Why does the fact that they're Jewish have anything to do with it?
01:06:14.000I'm talking about my own accountability to the pain.
01:06:17.000I'm not a Karen and I'm not going to cancel you and I'm not going to uncensor you.
01:06:20.000I'm simply going to challenge you on what you're saying.
01:06:24.000I think you don't understand the pain that you've been causing with some of these comments and I think that one in particular I can understand.
01:06:31.000God forbid, God forbid one comment could cause
01:06:37.000It is so true when he says, uh, I'm not on a tirade, that's always what, it's always those weasel words, that's always how they get you, where they go,
01:07:23.000Deplorable, shameful, unacceptable, and thank God the world is beginning to move to a better place about the way it has treated black people like you.
01:07:32.000However, however, one form of racism doesn't justify another.
01:07:37.000One form of racism doesn't justify another.
01:07:40.000I'm not cutting you off, I'm finishing my sentence so you can respond.
01:07:43.000One form of racism, one form of racism, it is racism when you say I'm going deaf-blind for hearing Jewish people.
01:10:35.000All I'm saying to you is, when you use a phrase, yay, like, I'm going death-con-free on Jewish people... Did you hear what I just said, though?
01:11:26.000I was in a position where I've been hurt, and this is the way I had the right to express myself.
01:11:32.000The point of this interview is for you to question me, and then for me to answer and say, okay, even though the same rules do not apply to my people, if a person with a gun or drugs is pulled over and has four, three other people in the car, they're all going to jail.
01:11:48.000I'm not going to apply that to Jewish people for the sake of this conversation.
01:12:52.000You haven't given me any credit or a moment of reflection for the comparison that I made, the brilliant, if I do say so myself, comparison that I made to the cops pulling over one black person and locking everyone up.
01:13:13.000My tweet, referring to all Jewish people, I said, for the sake of this conversation, I will refer to the business people who have destroyed me and my people and my fellow creatives.
01:13:26.000But you didn't even accept that I gave you that.
01:14:24.000Jewish businessmen that led me to that place, are they sorry for the way they've raped my people?
01:14:29.000I don't know who you're talking about in particular, but I don't know why you keep having to say... And then it's always, oh, I don't know what you're talking about.
01:14:35.000I don't know what you're talking about.
01:14:36.000I'm not even... You know, because Ye says, aren't you interested in what got me to this point and who did this to me?
01:14:41.000The Jewish people that did this to me?
01:15:09.000Would it be, would I have grown into the box you want me to go on if I say to specify the business people that have raped my people that just so happen to be Jewish?
01:15:24.000By doing what you've just done, I find that I'm not even Jewish and I find that offensive.
01:15:31.000I don't think you understand the offence you're causing when you keep using their religious background, their ethnicity, as a stick to beat them with.
01:16:05.000But that doesn't change the fact that when you insult the Jewish people and say you're going death-torn free on the Jewish people, that is as racist as anything you say you've been through and any pain that you've experienced.
01:17:53.000We're gonna open up all of the music industry contracts, all of the publishing deals, all of the athlete deals, all of the acting deals, all of the mortgages.
01:18:16.000Of course I'll be judged by that because when people come into power
01:19:44.000I have friends, right, that will like, you know, actually that's the reason why I'm going to be a good leader someday because I'm really empathetic.
01:19:53.000But I call black people out on their stuff.
01:19:56.000I call white people out on their stuff because we're all people.
01:20:02.000And in order to whether it's my friends texting me like bro you got to get in the gym you're looking chubby in the photo you know it's like we have to hold each other accountable to what's actually happening and it's so much is based on you did that tweet wrong so what I will say is
01:20:19.000I feel that my words demand more sensitivity for the frequency that I'm operating at and the amount of people that I'm communicating to.
01:20:30.000And I take that responsibility right now.
01:20:33.000But I will also say everything happens for a reason.
01:20:36.000Because if it had been perfectly worded in English,
01:20:41.000Because there's nothing whiter than English itself, right?
01:20:44.000I'm already not speaking in my mother tongue, right?
01:20:46.000So, if I had perfectly worded it in the most sensitive way, then we wouldn't be here right now.
01:20:54.000Now we're opening up the conversation.
01:20:56.000I'm not allowed to say whether or not I'm running for office in 2024, but I'll tell you what, if the left, let's say the left,
01:21:04.000The left would have never supported me anyway.
01:21:08.000And now I've got to call to attention, I am who you should support.
01:21:13.000The left did not allow Trump to be president.
01:21:16.000They treated him like he wasn't even the president.
01:21:19.000So even then he won, he was losing half of the American people every day and it divided the country.
01:21:26.000What I'm saying, whoever goes into office for British media, for American media, we must support our leaders.
01:21:35.000And not just run this hyper-negative—you know what I will—and black people hate when I apologize for this.
01:21:41.000When I see people like John Legend and Chrissy Teigen talk down on the president, I'm like, wow, that kind of sounds like me.
01:21:49.000That kind of sounds like the telethon.
01:21:51.000I opened up this level of disrespect towards our leaders and people were happy.
01:21:58.000Ah, and the left saw that and say, well, let's just have every celebrity do what Ye did at the telethon.
01:22:04.000So I take responsibility for that moment.
01:22:07.000I just want to give every Jewish person
01:22:41.000But it seems to me, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you are acknowledging, as you've just acknowledged that it was wrong to say what you said about President Bush when he said he doesn't care about black people, and that may have encouraged all this disrespect towards presidents since.
01:22:54.000I think it's an interesting point you made.
01:22:56.000It does seem to me, Ye, talking to you, that even if it's hard for you to admit this, that you do regret the wording of that tweet which caused all the problems, and you wouldn't phrase it that way again.
01:23:11.000My dad loved the White Lives Matter t-shirt because what audacity does a black man have to wear the exact same t-shirt that a white man could wear?
01:23:22.000You know, and my dad was a Black Panther.
01:23:25.000I mean, we have a water purification center.
01:23:28.000You know, he's like the original Steve Jobs.
01:23:31.000He's the educated version of me, right?
01:24:13.000I want to, I want to talk, okay, let me, let me say that I'm just thinking right now what's on my heart is the idea for people who do actually have severe mental health issues, you know, the word retarded for, you know, there's parents that have children who actually are mentally ill and that word
01:25:51.000My question is only because... I probably had the same, but what... It's only because you've been talking about you don't believe you have a mental illness.
01:26:02.000Is that one of the reasons perhaps sometimes, as you say, you feel sleepy and you shoot from the hip verbally and you say stuff that maybe when you're rested, you wouldn't say it the same way.
01:28:01.000I mean he says it in such and and it's he doesn't even say it in an extremely technical way but he's so articulate at the same time saying kind of what I said earlier which is
01:28:17.000One, hung up on regret, remorse, the hurt you caused, the hurt feelings.
01:28:22.000Here we are, we're like 30 minutes, 30 minutes stuck on, admit it, you hurt their feelings, okay, so you regret it, you regret it, right?
01:29:30.000Do you think Pierce cares about Yeh, or do you think he cares about enforcing some kind of, again, an agenda, or a particular attitude?
01:29:44.000And when Ye said, I'm here to fight for my people, I care about me, I care about my people, I don't care about stepping on toes, that's Trump, that's Ye, that's me, that's anybody over the past six years that's been called a certain name or something for trying to tell the truth.
01:30:02.000It's not about hate, it's not about malice, it's not about trying to go out there and make people feel bad.
01:30:09.000It's about telling the truth in an environment which we're all aware of with these social pressures.
01:30:17.000And if it's not phrased in a perfectly sensitive way, then people get hung up on the remorse.
01:30:33.000...on the entire Jewish people's toes, with a very deeply inflammatory tweet, which I think you've now accepted you shouldn't have phrased that way.
01:30:40.000It's taken a bit of time to get there, but I think you've accepted that, right?
01:30:45.000Have you accepted that you've put no effort into understanding how I got there?
01:30:53.000I don't think, I don't think, honestly, honestly, I don't think there is any, no I'm not, I'm not, no I'm not, because here's the thing, I don't doubt you have, no it's not, no it's not, oh come on, yay, don't,
01:31:35.000Now, I didn't, but now I'm saying it now.
01:31:37.000Okay, so now what I think you should say, I think you should say to the Jewish people, I'm sorry for the offensive language I used in that tweet.
01:31:57.000When I sit down with the people who write out the contracts for the NBA and for the NFL and for professional music and for acting contracts, we need to go to the top lawyers, the top execs, the owners of the stadiums, the owners of the football teams, and the owners of the record labels, and we're going to put them all in one room, and we're going to read every
01:32:20.000Let's go top 10 in each one of these categories, right?
01:32:23.000Let's read Michael B. Jordan's contract.
01:33:53.000I need all of the top executives in Hollywood.
01:33:58.000I need the top executives at the NBA and at the NFL.
01:34:01.000We'll do those two sports specifically.
01:34:04.000And I want the top executives in music dealing with publishing, dealing with like Spotify and Apple Music and Universal Music and all the top execs.
01:34:22.000Earners in each one of those fields contracts openly.
01:34:26.000We want to compare and contrast the contracts and then once we open that conversation and we need to do it on a platform live with lawyers asking questions and we'll and we'll have the top lawyers like a Johnny Cochran Robert Kardashian level legal team, you know looking at all of these contracts together after that moment happens, then I
01:35:34.000You have a huge appeal to millions of people around the world.
01:35:37.000It just seems to me that occasionally your mouth gets you into trouble and that perhaps on reflection sometimes you look back and wish you hadn't said things.
01:37:29.000Well, we're working for God here, and it's just like with black people now, with entertainment, we're coming into wealth, but all the other
01:37:38.000You know, black people with anywhere near my amount of wealth.
01:37:46.000Would never cross the lines of, you know, taboos inside of the media that I would, that actually we used to in rap.
01:37:55.000All these words, we used to say these, so it's all these like words that are being removed from our vocabulary, words that evoke emotion.
01:38:04.000Don't you feel like the salt is being taken out of our food?
01:39:08.000There's so many, think about, you know, for a homosexual kid, age 12 at school, not wanting to say out loud how he felt or feeling like if he said how he felt, he would get bullied.
01:39:25.000Or what if he said how he felt and then somebody said, you said the way you felt.
01:39:30.000And what your experience was in the wrong way.
01:41:12.000Honestly, part of me wants to say yes to that but I do think there is a line and we should all be mindful of the line and the line to me is I don't think any form of racism or perceived racism should ever be tolerated.
01:41:27.000Do you understand that perceived racism is anything that has to do with race?
01:41:34.000Racism is already overly broad and subjective.
01:41:37.000Perceived racism is literally infinite.
01:41:41.000That means you just can't talk about people.
01:41:44.000As long as there are people, and as long as they are in different races, they take the form of different races, then you cannot talk about human beings without crossing the line of perceived racism.
01:42:00.000Barely racism, but perceived racism even more.
01:45:21.000If you look back at this interview and it's like a direction arrow, it's more in the direction of fixing the statement than fixing the problem.
01:46:04.000Rather than get to the bottom of it, rather than, let's talk about it, let's just cards on the table, what did you mean by it, what do you mean Jewish businessman, what's in the contracts, what oppression are you talking about, etc, etc.
01:46:18.000It's hung up on, are you sorry, are you sorry, are you sorry, the tweet, the tweet, what you said, this is what people thought about what you said.
01:46:28.000And then Ye calls him out and, you know, so he's meta, you know, he's in it, commenting on the interview in the interview.
01:46:35.000And Pierce goes, well, we could talk about both.
01:49:38.000They're waging a war on you, and part of the tactic is to be charming.
01:49:43.000Part of the tactic is to charm you, to placate you.
01:49:49.000And so that's why you need to put your walls up and realize it's meant to disarm.
01:49:53.000That's why you have to put your walls up and realize you're in a hostile, you're in a threat environment.
01:50:01.000So... I completely understand it because you've explained it in more detail.
01:50:06.000On Elon Musk, there is a suggestion that when he gets control of Twitter, which seems likely now, that he will bring you back, he'll bring Donald Trump back.
01:51:14.000Listen, I agree with you and I'll tell you why.
01:51:16.000I think it's completely inconsistent that companies like Facebook and Twitter allow people like the Ayatollah of Iran, for example, to remain on the platform, or Taliban people to be on the platform, but they don't allow an American president.
01:51:32.000That seems to me completely ludicrous.
01:51:41.000The problem is the inconsistency that some leaders are allowed, but not others.
01:51:46.000So if Twitter banned the Ayatollah and the Taliban, then it would be okay?
01:51:51.000Or is the problem about the relative influence of private enterprise in America over the public, over the government?
01:52:01.000And I'm going to say I'm going to simp a little bit for the government.
01:52:05.000The government as an institution should be supreme because the government represents or should represent the public, particularly in America.
01:52:15.000Private interest is private or corporate, it's individuals.
01:52:24.000The government is representative, in theory,
01:52:28.000And should be, and should be made to align with this.
01:52:31.000The government is representative of all, of the public, of the sovereign people, the nation of America.
01:52:57.000Corporate and private matters, at least in terms of its jurisdiction.
01:53:04.000Not to say that it should wield that all the time or in a domineering or heavy-handed way, but that's what Ye is talking about is how insane is it that the tech company is more powerful than the elected president, than the executive, the chief executive,
01:53:33.000would outmatch the elected government, the head of government, the head of state of the Republican, Constitutional, Federal, National government.
01:54:12.000Yes, and this is part of the 100-year plan that they have books on about, you know, China's takeover of America after losing the Industrial Revolution.
01:54:28.000Now, let's talk about business people.
01:54:41.000And every Jewish homeboy I know is going to be like, yo, yeah, that's right.
01:54:49.000But it's hard to attract, it's hard to influence patriotism on capitalists.
01:54:59.000And it's a responsibility for us as Americans to retake our power in media,
01:55:07.000To retake our power in our schools, to retake our power in our farms, to retake our power in our medicine, in our hospitals, to revitalize the country.
01:55:18.000Because America invented rock and roll at the end of the day.
01:55:29.000Like, we created the platforms that the world
01:55:32.000Uh, that the world runs on now, and we've allowed the business people in these companies to sell us, and whatever the term is, sell them in a handbag, whatever it is, for cheap.
01:55:44.000And Americans are God-fearing, for the most part, God-fearing Christian people, and we're not cheap, and we can't be sold for cheap, and we're here to stand up
01:55:56.000And say, you gotta honour who we are, our families.
01:56:00.000You gotta honour our God, Jesus Christ.
01:56:12.000A lot of stuff has been written about you and your family.
01:56:15.000A lot of it fuelled by you, by Kim, by others.
01:56:20.000Where are things now with your family?
01:56:22.000What is your relationship like with Kim, with your kids?
01:56:28.000Uh uh Kim has Zionist media handlers surrounding her all in and out her Hulu TV show all in and out her her family all in and out the house that I created for my family but God is alive
01:56:51.000The devil is a defeated foe and Kim is a Christian woman and she's not here just to have content up on adult channels.
01:56:59.000She's not here just to have that last interview magazine cover.
01:57:04.000If you look at the two interview magazine covers, look at the one when I was there and look at the one when I'm not there and that's the reason why this Tuskegee experiment of such that's happened to the black community
01:57:16.000Where they took the fathers out of the home and the leaders out of the community and have torn apart the community.
01:57:24.000Now they've seen that's worked and they're doing that to America.
01:57:29.000I mean that interview, the interview magazine cover you're talking about I think is the one where she was basically semi-naked in front of the American flag and I thought that was pretty distasteful actually.
01:57:40.000It was about the American dream and I thought well if that's the American dream we're all screwed.
01:58:29.000You know, so I'm going to stand up for what I believe in.
01:58:43.000I mean, John Legend is distancing himself from me and buying more Christmas sweaters in the middle of the spring also, so I'm not saying that, you know, they're making the right decisions.
01:58:54.000She's being influenced, you know, but I guarantee you what's not finna happen, we not finna see her in one of them John Legend Christmas sweaters no time soon.
01:59:13.000But watch this, God, God, when I got married I bought this house, I like, you know what I'm saying, I did this tour and spent all the money I had on this house to like surprise Kim and give her this house that she wanted, that Lisa Marie Presley used to own.
01:59:28.000And then I got the house, and then I put all this money into renovation, and then there goes the neighborhood.
01:59:36.000Drake moves down the street five blocks, and that's when I knew God was funny.
01:59:41.000But watch, this is where God is even funnier.
02:01:10.000You know, there's no person that you'll ever get with that will influence her more than God and then her priest on Earth, which is me.
02:01:22.000You know, whether it's the Skims clothing line, the designers, the architects, all those people.
02:01:28.000You got the Clintons, the left, utilizing what we built together to try to use her as an influence
02:01:37.000for the Black culture and the word culture in general for the next elections.
02:01:42.000They need those 300 million followers from Kylie and Kim on their side going into their election as they push trauma culture to the Black people again, as they claim anything, any of my questions of business dealings to be anti-Semitic comments,
02:02:00.000And push, you know, Kim to, you know, as a billionaire mother of a lawyer and a mother of four Jew black children.
02:03:03.000Music directed at children, inside a content through Disney, on Hulu, which is Disney also, and in so many branded commercials to confuse children and to sexualize our children way too early before they can even make their own decisions about their life.
02:03:21.000You make some very interesting points again.
02:03:23.000Just to clarify one thing though, you are actually divorced, are you?
02:03:26.000Because my understanding was that you weren't actually divorced yet.
02:03:31.000Do you see again how he just refuses to let the conversation go in a place that he doesn't want it to go?
02:03:38.000That's what it means when you're pushing an agenda.
02:03:41.000You know, Ye's talking for 20 minutes about all these different things and it's, uh, were you sad when you got divorced?
02:04:54.000This is past my whole, this is past what I'm saying about having the heads of the football teams and the basketball teams and the music industry opening up their contracts the way I do, right?
02:05:05.000Picture the most influential woman on the planet, which is Kim Kardashian, right?
02:05:14.000And I got this one thing I want to definitely say in an interview.
02:05:18.000Picture the most influential person on the planet, the most influential woman on the planet, performing in public only for that audience of one, for God.
02:05:31.000Imagine the overwhelmingly positive effect that that will have on the planet and
02:05:39.000Mark these words, it will happen someday.
02:05:42.000And I had this thing, I had this like, you know, of course I'm divorced and this is like a funny thing I thought.
02:05:50.000Being that her name is no longer West,
02:06:23.000Everything is up to God, and God has proven to me many times that it's not about what I want or what I would like, it's just up to Him on what He sees fit.
02:06:41.000You know, David had to tend to the sheep.
02:06:50.000I absolutely love, I'll love her for life.
02:06:54.000And I will protect, oddly enough, I'll actually protect her.
02:06:58.000Because when I call out things that I feel are wrong, you know what I'm saying, when I make products, like, say the difference between me and Bernard Arnault, like say, watch, Elon Musk, every product, the reason why Elon Musk is like a Steve Jobs is,
02:07:15.000If he makes a flamethrower, he would use that flamethrower.
02:07:18.000If he makes a Cybertruck, he would use that Cybertruck.
02:07:21.000Me, if I make some 3D printed boots, you know, I'm gonna have the 3D printed boots on.
02:08:24.000Well, with my rather creative British mind... Explain what those thirst traps still be fire... I would imagine it means... With your creative, brilliant British mind... I would imagine it means you still fancy your ex-wife.
02:08:53.000On these kind of questions, what I could say is.
02:08:57.000God is a God is alive and he places people he placed David in.
02:09:11.000God had David tend to the sheep knowing that one day he would prepare him to fight Goliath.
02:09:18.000So I believe that that day of me fighting Goliath has been this past two weeks.
02:09:26.000The media is Goliath and there would be no chance of having a civil civilization or civil
02:09:35.000Uh, democracy in America without me challenging the media two years out from the election.
02:09:42.000Because this thing that I'm challenging may be setting myself up to one day be able to be president, or it's, uh, maybe for the other president.
02:09:50.000But regardless, we have to have some decency in America as the thought leaders and the content that we put out.
02:10:01.000You keep talking about the media as if somehow it's the media that's created all this furore in the last two weeks.
02:10:06.000But you have said other things which, in my opinion, the media couldn't ignore.
02:10:11.000You know, you suggested in your interview with Tucker Carlson that Gap, for example, the clothing wear company, had prior knowledge of the Ivalde shooting, which is obviously completely insane.
02:11:11.000Well, look, you're perfectly entitled to have theories.
02:11:13.000I think most of them are completely insane.
02:11:15.000But on this specific one, Ye, on Ivalde, you even suggested that Matthew McConaughey, you even suggested that Matthew McConaughey may have, it was all a bit weird that he was speaking so early about it, when in fact he came from Ivalde and spoke very passionately after this atrocity.
02:11:32.000So, I think people who read these comments are like, what are you talking about?
02:11:37.000No, okay, so I'm not... What I'm saying is...
02:11:44.000I definitely feel there was a major media push around that to create trauma and fear culture because the amount of people, and this is not to be in any way, I care about people who have passed away and have lost loved ones.
02:12:02.00020 kids were shot dead in a classroom.
02:13:21.000What I can't agree with is any suggestion by anyone at GAP or Matthew McConaughey or anybody else had any prior knowledge of what happened at Ivaldo.
02:13:43.000I'm jealous that so much attention went in this direction, but doesn't go into the direction of Chicago when the same thing and the same amount of people... That's what you should say.
02:14:46.000I feel, I feel like the George Floyd was a premeditated murder.
02:14:54.000That's my feeling based off of, and we never got to that in the beginning, but that's my feeling based off of the information I saw in the documentary.
02:15:06.000I agree, but not for the reason you think.
02:15:08.000I think it was premeditated in the sense that that policeman didn't give a damn about George Floyd's life, stuck his knee on his neck for eight minutes and killed him.
02:16:29.000I had an idea that you didn't embrace right there.
02:16:32.000The martyr JFK, we analyzed his death a hundred different ways, right?
02:16:39.000But with George Floyd, he died that way and then it's white people telling super brilliant successful black people
02:16:47.000You, okay, you have the right, you're, it's literally like on some, Black Lives Matter, like, your life matters, like, oh, your idea matters, but then shut up, and we're not gonna go back to it.
02:16:59.000I need you to watch that documentary, and I want us to talk line by line.
02:17:05.000I wanna do, because look, I think that we're a good conversation, and now within the next two years, we need to talk a lot of times, right?
02:17:48.000What kind of values do you want to instill in your children?
02:17:54.000I want my kids to finish their education.
02:17:57.000I know that my album was called The College Dropout, but when I look at the way, you know, just like you said, your kids are in the University of Chicago.
02:18:57.000We sold 80,000 sim players back in February and we went off the Apple platform and now we're coming with the next generation that has a projector in it and it's coming with 4,096 movies.
02:19:09.000I did that because my Amiga computer had 4,096 colors when I was in seventh grade and also you can download films without having to use an Apple product.
02:19:18.000So I called this guy and we're working on finishing up elements of the deal
02:19:22.000And he's using emotional bullying and like his shoulders are down.
02:19:56.000And see, that's where that comment that got me into so much trouble forced me to look at myself as a black, as the richest black man since Manson Munson, right?
02:20:48.000We're never gonna just hand something over just because we like the way this person looks and we have the emotional connection because she was a Delta and my mom was a Delta.
02:22:06.000Biden has reasons for us to be at war right now for selfish reasons.
02:22:12.000And what I would like to do without giving you too much information, I would like to speak with my political advisors to give you the exact, exact information.
02:22:24.000I'm not going to, hey, watch this one, Pierce.
02:22:26.000I'm not going to shoot from the hip on this one, especially talking about war and things as sensitive as Ukraine and the Russian war.
02:22:37.000We already got that, um, the R-E-T-A-R-D comment earlier that maybe we could work on that I feel like is going to be massively offensive and I really do... Alright, now that one I do apologize to people that I offended earlier in the interview on that comment.
02:22:52.000Maybe we could look at scrubbing that if we, if we, if we deem... Well actually, actually I would say, I would say that
02:24:01.000You know, the whole interview is a total asshole.
02:24:05.000And then he gets the apology he was finally looking for, and then it's, well, good job, little guy, with the patronizing... That's how they get you.
02:24:15.000And I think by holding the idea of an apology hostage is not godlike.
02:24:22.000I feel like we have to free... Yeah, you know, and I think that's the point that you've been making, and because we sat down and had this conversation, you know,
02:24:32.000I will say I'm sorry for the people that I hurt with the DEF CON, the confusion that I cause.
02:24:39.000I feel like I cause hurt and confusion.
02:24:42.000And I'm sorry for the families of the people that had nothing to do with the trauma that I had been through and that I use my platform where you say hurt people hurt people.
02:25:17.000And I want to say that it's wrong to hold an apology hostage.
02:25:22.000And I got to let go of that and free, you know, free myself of the trauma and say, look, I'm just going to give it all up to God right now and say to those families that are hurt, you know, I really want to give you guys a big hug.
02:25:37.000And I want to, uh, I say, I'm sorry for hurting you in my comments.
02:25:42.000And I want to word it and not a president, not in like a political way, but in a presidential way, which means what I knew a president to be when I was growing up in a sincere way.
02:25:53.000You know how people give those kind of, I want to give an apology and you're like, but did you, you know what I'm saying?
02:25:58.000Like, no, it has to be, I want to go to every person's grandmother,
02:26:05.000and grandfather and every person's son and daughter aunt and uncle and give them a hug and say you know what i've been hurt and i do want you to talk to your boys i do want you to talk let's go to the people that are in power the people who do own the black voice let's go
02:27:23.000In a way that I didn't mean to be taken, it definitely calls some attention.
02:27:27.000But I don't want the conversation to go away just because I came to you guys and said, you know, I understand how I hurt you and I'm sorry for the pain that I've caused and the confusion that I caused.
02:28:00.000But it would be a beautiful world as I release the pain that I've caused, and the pain that I have in me, that grudge that I was holding, that you guys, some of you guys, one, two of you guys, step up and say, let's look at these contracts.
02:28:15.000Let's make it not be a known fact that the music industry is treacherous.
02:30:45.000I'm giving you this, and I'm gonna pray that you, as a fellow believer in Christ, will help me to expose all the wrong that's still currently happening to my people, specifically in the entertainment industry, because I'm an entertainer, just to start with.
02:31:02.000I'm very happy to hold anyone to account who is behaving improperly, honestly.
02:31:08.000And I'm absolutely certain that that entertainment business is riddled with people who try it on and exploit people.
02:31:15.000And I would be very happy to help you to expose that.
02:32:31.000It's literally a struggle session All right So yeah, I don't I would not count on Piers Morgan going out of his way to platform yay and Get those contracts opened But alright, let's take a look at our super chats How about this edit though?
02:35:56.000It's a good book, but not really for beginners.
02:35:59.000Because what Spengler tried to do with that book is create a new field of knowledge, a study of civilizations.
02:36:22.000Because he's not an historian and he's not a philosopher.
02:36:24.000He was trying to create a new discipline that was holistic and studied all aspects of a civilization.
02:36:33.000And in Decline of the West, that's exactly what he does.
02:36:37.000He describes some of the different civilizations that have existed in a way that other people don't write about.
02:36:45.000And he talks about a lot of technical things about other disciplines that if you're not already educated to some extent, you're not going to get as much out of it.
02:36:56.000So like, for example, he talks about architecture, and he talks about cathedrals, and he talks about fine art, he talks about Rembrandt, and he talks about Mozart, and he talks about calculus.
02:37:09.000and Faust and you're not really gonna get everything out of it if you don't know what Faust is if you don't know Gerta if you don't know if you don't know what calculus is if you don't know what a flying buttress is so I would say that Spengler is definitely a little bit more advanced that's what I would say somebody spamming some do we even have mods in this frickin live chat or what
02:37:39.000do not spam so yeah mods asleep anyway so I wouldn't I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner but it's a good it's an excellent book Dimitri sent $3 likes dr. Martens wants to shave his head likes utilitarian clothing is Nick becoming a skinhead WTF this is truly the best timeline
02:38:04.000Well, and he's the only one that even stands a chance because he's just mastered these sophist verbal tricks, you know.