We are at a crossroads here in this country and we have to start to radically begin to obey our conscience and do the right thing people have got to start getting courageous and get courageous. People that are trying to protect their ever shrinking share of what they have are foolish, it s all poisoned and we re being slowly poisoned.
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00:03:21.000Last dog to God, and everybody cares the world.
00:03:31.000Two name with your days, way before the snow kick, you take out the city, I was just a kick with the ball back, said it, pick you with the way to think, you take a two three, yeah.
00:04:08.000I'm gonna leave your tape on the ground.
00:04:12.000Last dog took not every warming on everybody who cares to world.
00:04:22.000Two name with your days, way before the start kick, no city, when I was just a kick in the ball back, said it, pick you with the way to think, you can do the wasn't too sick.
00:06:34.000We're being slowly poisoned and in some cases quickly murdered and assassinated.
00:06:41.000And we're killing ourselves every day.
00:06:45.000With the kinds of things that we eat and breathe and drink and see, people have got to start to radically begin to obey their conscience and tell the truth and do the right thing.
00:06:56.000People have got to start to get courageous.
00:06:58.000And this is the time for everybody to turn and look to God and to pray and to ask for strength and to ask for wisdom to get through this time and to transform and sanctify this country.
00:07:13.000And the alternative is that there will be no country.
00:07:16.000Is it really only as big as low gas prices?
00:07:20.000Is it really only so big as bringing inflation and gas prices and the corporate tax rate back down?
00:07:26.000It's not about waiting for someone to come in and change the policy and make it better.
00:07:31.000It's a personal decision that we all have to make to become soldiers of Christ.
00:07:41.000It's a personal decision that we all have to make.
00:09:31.000You got that back, back, that's what I could find You got that back, back, this is on the phone Men's a Dina, Dina, Dina, Dina You got that back, back, that's what I could find You got that back, back, that's what I could find You got that back, back, this is on the phone Men's a Dina, Dina, Dina, Dina We paved the way with our corpses.
00:10:18.000I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.
00:10:24.000For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.
00:10:31.000We know that the whole creation has been groaning, as in the pains of childbirth, right up to the present time.
00:10:39.000Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the spirit groan inwardly, as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.
00:14:31.000I am sending you out like sheep among wolves.
00:14:36.000Therefore, be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
00:14:42.000Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
00:14:50.000Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
00:15:04.000And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age.
00:16:47.000There are thousands of millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians ready to meet their final destiny, and nothing can stop us, and I'm not in there.
00:18:19.000You got that hot, hot, this feel like a phone Menjelina, girl, menjelina, girl You got that hot, hot, this feel like a phone You got that hot, hot, this feel like a phone You got that hot, this feel like a phone You got that hot, hot, this feel like a phone You got that hot, hot, this feel like a phone No one's allowed to say that the blood is quite essential part of this.
00:18:41.000That the blood of our people is something that is essential.
00:19:06.000Palantir is an AI data analytics company.
00:19:11.000They use artificial intelligence to look at vast amounts of data and create insights.
00:19:18.000If the government has an amount of data which is kind of unimaginable, if you've got every phone call, every email, every transaction, every photograph of a license plate on the highway, satellite data.
00:19:33.000It's too much data for a bureaucracy to sift through.
00:19:36.000Palantir comes in and interprets the data using algorithm, using artificial intelligence, using software to make vast amounts of data usable.
00:26:41.000You got that backfire, that's what I could pop.
00:26:57.000You got that back, back, this hurt on the phone Menjelina, who you, menjelina, who you, girl You got that back, back, this hurt on the phone You got that back, back, this hurt on the phone If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first If you belonged to the world, it would love you as it's own.
00:27:21.000As it is, you do not belong to the world.
00:27:24.000But I have chosen you out of the world.
00:29:37.000I wish that you could gain my patience.
00:29:39.000My own narrative is not one of some sudden booming bolt of lightning out of the blue.
00:29:46.000It was a slow and steady, unrelenting stream of blimps and blinks, glimmers and glares, low beams and high beams of light, some of which I did not want to see.
00:30:01.000And then finally, a point of no return reckoning.
00:30:10.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Group of Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Xyoshill Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty, and of course,
00:30:26.000uh defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First Movement, um, who uh through an increasing amount of activism are really going to ensure uh the future and the and the success of that movement.
00:30:41.000We can't be held hostage by this country forever.
00:33:25.000My love has got no money, he's got his strong beliefs My love has got no power, he's got his strong beliefs My love has got no fame, he's got his strong beliefs My love has got no money, he's got his strong beliefs.
00:33:42.000People just want more and more freedom and love.
00:34:02.000Minus this is purified, free from desire.
00:34:06.000my If we don't have freedom on the internet in the age of AI, we are going to be mind-raped every day forever.
00:34:26.000Think about anything you've ever said or done in the vicinity of your phone's camera or microphone, everything you've ever put into your phone, and even things that are not necessarily so scandalous, but even things like your favorite restaurants, your geo location, because your phone also has a GPS.
00:34:48.000They have access to your bank account.
00:34:49.000AI will literally know everything about you.
00:34:54.000Everyone you know, your relationship to them, your tastes, your preferences, your habits, your whereabouts, your routines, your schedule, when you're asleep.
00:35:03.000They know how much REM sleep you're getting.
00:36:43.000These material appetites, they will never be satisfied, and even if they are, it'll never be an adequate substitute for communion with our holy father, with somebody with the author of the world.
00:36:57.000And every mother and father understands the love for a child.
00:37:01.000And that is how we were made, we were designed that way.
00:37:05.000Because through that experience, we could understand, by analogy, God's love for us.
00:37:12.000It says in Revelation that God will wipe away every tear.
00:39:22.000Sipping wine, having some uh some hot to have and some pizza, oh I'm weird, I'm normal, I'm I'm the well, I'm expecting I'm working, I'm original, I'll write up an original.
00:40:10.000No son, and when you're growing on an ice, what you think meet if you're a single growing on the grace, and put the game dirty game for new casino.
00:41:49.000I was looking at the climate, I don't even fight light.
00:41:51.000I was screaming at my daddy, he told me it ain't Christ, like, I was screaming at the pepper, we just like, like, cooking for a bright, like, legal with your life, like, riding on a white, like, selling like a tight bike, pressing on the gas, doing an over full night, like, screaming at my daddy, he told me it ain't Christ, like, But no, I didn't never see you like Christ only for CNG.
00:47:21.000I am sending you out like sheep among wolves.
00:47:30.000Therefore, be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
00:47:37.000Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
00:47:45.000Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
00:47:59.000And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
00:48:04.000We can't be held hostage by this country forever.
00:51:44.000Because if there are thousands and millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians ready to meet their final destiny, then nothing can stop us.
00:56:06.000I want this earth all for myself I'm doing drugs that I have My voice says nothing when I scream in love for help I stretch my
00:56:25.000hair, but my cup just goes up I'm doing drugs that I have to do I'm doing drugs that I have to do I'm doing drugs that I have to do I'm doing drugs that I have to do I'm doing drugs that I have to do I'm doing drugs that I have to do I'm doing drugs
00:56:55.000that I have to do I'm doing drugs that I have to do I'm doing drugs that I have to do I'm doing drugs that I have to do
00:59:33.000I mean, I think that you know the sovereignty of the American military, etc.
00:59:36.000I mean, these are not just crank issues.
00:59:37.000It's young white men who've been totally cut out of our economy, attacked mercilessly.
00:59:42.000I mean, they really are the victims, and they're desperate, and no one speaks for them.
00:59:45.000So they go to Fuentes, because he's like incredibly articulate, and they think he's our leader.
00:59:50.000But unfortunately, Pat Buchanan raises them in a way that I think is discredited, but he is clearly part of a campaign to discredit non-crazy right voices.
01:00:01.000Pat Buchanan is part of the reason it's so hard to have that conversation because he discredits it by his by his presence.
01:00:07.000That's a campaign to destroy credible voices on the right.
01:00:12.000And that he believes in conspiracies and and that he believes that the Jews are this sinister, secretly organized force trying to affect American politics.
01:00:22.000And those aren't discussions I think uh normal people, uh, sober people should be having.
01:00:30.000And maybe it's just an accident that the guy goes after exclusively goes after people who are in the same, roughly the same.
01:00:40.000And then he gets up there and he's like, you know, making a holocaust jokes.
01:00:42.000When attacked, he can always fall back on the line.
01:00:46.000Well, the you know, the tiny cabal that controls American politics doesn't like me because I speak truth to power.
01:00:51.000This is actually incidentally almost verbatim what he said the other day, that I offend the plutocracy, um, that I'm a wanted man by the inside the beltway people, and in an in every sense, cast himself as uh as a victim who is sort of a Karen Silkwood of politics, someone who's uh so truthful that he's being hunted down by the uh by the conspiracy that runs Washington.
01:01:31.000People just want more and more freedom and love.
01:01:36.000what he's looking for more and more people just want more and more freedom and love what he's looking for
01:02:02.000there is something involved where we have to forgive them we do have to forgive them for their ignorance we do have to forgive them for their misunderstanding and we have to embrace them and say better late than never welcome to the right side of history welcome to our our massive vision our massive and ambitious vision for how we want the world to be
01:06:49.000He says Nick Fuentes is leading all the disaffected young white men.
01:06:53.000I am a disaffected white young white man.
01:06:56.000I was a precocious, intelligent young white college student who went to Boston University, who was pro-Trump and red pilled by Trump and animated by Trump's message of America first.
01:07:08.000And I asked questions about Israel, and I was punished for it.
01:07:12.000I did it years before Tucker Carlson started talking about Israel last year.
01:07:17.000And I sacrificed, and I was targeted by the ADL, by the SPLC, by the federal government, by the conservative movement that both Candace and Tucker were a part of.
01:07:27.000He's lonely, he's weird, he lives in a basement.
01:07:32.000That's a lot of people because of the problems you claim to care about.
01:09:13.000An unconditional, absolute standard of love for all of God's children, even those that are misguided, even those that persecute us, even the most heinous among us.
01:10:16.000The Canary Mission is an Israeli-funded
01:10:41.000blacklist, which since July 2025 has been confirmed to be used by the Trump administration to target students, professors, and professionals who oppose Israel and reside in the United States.
01:10:52.000This idea is part of an initiative created by the Heritage Foundation, the same group responsible for the infamous Project 2025.
01:10:59.000In their initiative, titled Project Esther, they state that students participating in pro-Palestinian protests and activism are supporting Hamas, a group that the United States designates as a foreign terrorist organization.
01:11:11.000Therefore, pro-Palestinian students are considered to be supporting terrorism and are subject to the revocation of visas, frozen bank accounts, asset seizures, and the denial of basic constitutional rights.
01:11:23.000In effect, the Canary Mission serves as a means to circumvent constitutional protections, allowing the federal government to engage in intelligence gathering activities that would otherwise be considered unlawful.
01:11:35.000Palantir, another company closely aligned with the state of Israel, uses AI-driven analytics to maintain private databases on U.S. citizens and currently works with four federal agencies.
01:11:45.000While government contracting with the private sector is longstanding, the prominent influence of Jewish groups within these increasingly powerful organizations warrants careful examination.
01:11:54.000I renew the call for all able-bodied young American men, all of our elite human capital, all of our geniuses, warriors, intelligent people to dedicate themselves to American sovereignty and independence.
01:12:11.000as Christians, as Americans, as white people, as citizens of the United States.
01:12:16.000And anyone that settles for anything less is just as much of an enemy, I would actually consider them worse than our oppressors.
01:12:24.000So on Independence Day, it's important to reflect on the fact that we are an occupied nation.
01:12:29.000Now, just like then, we're being ruled by a small country across an ocean, serving itself at our expense.
01:12:35.000And as long as that is the case, I will always be obsessed with that.
01:12:39.000As long as that is the case, I will always be speaking out against that and fighting against that, and I will always be anchored, understanding that that is the fundamental struggle.
01:12:47.000As long as our presidents have to kiss the wall in Israel and wear a small hat, as long as they have to say that we want to make Israel great again, and they're the greatest country ever, and I will never be okay with that.
01:13:00.000And it doesn't matter what they offer me or us, it doesn't matter how they might try to placate us or appease our interests, the concessions they'll make, as long as that is the case, it is unacceptable.
01:13:14.000And that's what it means to be an American How did we get here?
01:13:44.000This is not a timeline going back to 1948.
01:13:47.000What had just happened before the 2016 election?
01:13:51.000Barack Obama created the joint comprehensive plan of action, the JCPOA, or the Iranian nuclear deal.
01:14:00.000And Barack Obama brought together China, Russia, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, and the United States, and the European Union to enforce a nuclear deal that restricts Iran's enrichment of uranium.
01:14:14.000The early talks were conducted in secret, and the Israelis were furious, furious about this.
01:14:22.000Netanyahu went to a joint session of Congress and gave a speech in defiance of the American president and its nuclear deal, and Congress gave 37 standing ovations.
01:14:32.000This is the background of Trump's first election.
01:15:56.000They colluded with Trump to get him elected, so that Trump would do maximum pressure and create a ladder of escalation, pulling us out of the deal, declaring the IRGC terrorists, then killing its leader, putting sanctions on the regime.
01:16:10.000This is a war that started a long time ago that Trump made hot in 2018 and has been going on for seven years.
01:22:14.000See Ricky said, I don't want to phone you If they want to phone you, they don't want to Okay, bro This is why I'm gonna go to sack you But he's gonna have me back with the podcast And stick with the big one homies now, it's still before the start of the day.
01:22:29.000And you know what I'm saying, but the man above your head.
01:22:31.000Pray before you go to me, everything my purpose is.
01:22:34.000I think it's the first day of the day, now they're hot.
01:29:14.000Dance, dance, dance, dance like a pop You got the punk.
01:29:19.000You got that back, back, this girl on the phone Men's a feeling good, girl, men's a feeling good, girl You got that back, back, that's the phone You got that back, back, that's the phone You got that back, back, this girl on the phone Bye.
01:29:54.000that's not right i consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us for the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of god to be revealed We know that the whole creation has been groaning, as in the pains of childbirth, right up to the present time.
01:30:24.000Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit groan inwardly, as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.
01:34:16.000I am sending you out like sheep among wolves.
01:34:20.000Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
01:34:27.000Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
01:34:35.000Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
01:34:49.000And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age.
01:35:44.000And we want people to convert really than anything.
01:35:48.000But this country can no longer be held hostage by a small minority that doesn't believe in real life.
01:35:58.000The mission of our movement is to make this country a Christian country.
01:36:03.000The mission is to create a Christian future in our time.
01:36:07.000The only way we're gonna do it is not by infiltrating, not by subverting, not by lying, which is what a lot of people do.
01:36:16.000The only way that we're gonna make this happen is with the boldness of a real Christian.
01:36:22.000The only way we have got to be willing to die for Jesus Christ.
01:36:28.000We have to want it more than they do because there are thousands of millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians ready to meet their final destiny, that nothing can stop us, and nothing will be a little bit more.
01:38:51.000Palantir is an AI data analytics company.
01:38:56.000They use artificial intelligence to look at Vast amounts of data and create insights.
01:39:03.000If the government has an amount of data which is kind of unimaginable, if you've got every phone call, every email, every transaction, every photograph of a license plate on the highway, satellite data.
01:39:18.000It's too much data for a bureaucracy to sift through.
01:39:21.000Palantir comes in and interprets the data using algorithms using artificial intelligence using software to make vast amounts of data usable.
01:46:13.000Hello, I got places to be Good evening everybody, you're watching America First My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes We have a great show for you tonight You got that back
01:46:30.000back, dance her like a punk You got that back back, dance her like a punk You got that back back, dance her like a punk Mensalina,
01:46:45.000girl, Mensalina, girl You got that back back, dance her like a punk You got that back back, dance her like a punk If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own.
01:47:06.000As it is, you do not belong to the world.
01:47:08.000But I have chosen you out of the world.
01:49:54.000I think it was because I fiercely came out during the Greupel Wars of 2019 when so many of these brave young men were on college campuses challenging the likes of Zio Schill Dan Crenshaw, questioning him about his undying loyalty and of course defending Nick Fuentes and so many of the stars of the burgeoning America First movement who through an increasing amount of activism are really going to ensure the future and
01:53:10.000My love has got no money, he's got his straw beliefs.
01:53:13.000My love has got no power, he's got his strong beliefs.
01:53:17.000My love has got no thing, he's got his straw beliefs.
01:53:21.000My love is got no money, he's got his strong beliefs.
01:53:27.000People just want more and more frequent love, but he's looking for more and more.
01:53:35.000People just want more and more freedom and love, but he's looking for free from desire.
01:53:43.000My assist is purified, feed from desire, minus this is purified, feed from desire, minus this is purified, from desire, and then if we don't have freedom on the internet in the age of AI, we are going to be mind-raped every day forever.
01:54:10.000Think about anything you've ever said or done in the vicinity of your phone's camera or microphone, everything you've ever put into your phone, and even things that are not necessarily so scandalous, but even things like your favorite restaurants, your geo location, because your phone also has a GPS.
01:54:27.000They know where you are at all times, they know where you go and when.
01:54:32.000They know what you buy, they have access to your bank account.
01:54:34.000AI will literally know everything about you.
01:54:39.000Everyone you know, your relationship to them, your tastes, your preferences, your habits, your whereabouts, your routines, your schedule, when you're asleep.
01:54:48.000They know how much REM sleep you're getting, they know your resting heart rate, they know how many calories you consume.
01:54:55.000Think about the ways that they can manipulate you.
01:54:58.000You have a computer in your refrigerator, computer in your car, computer in your home security system, computer in your everything, computer in your clothes, your watch, your glasses, your VR headset, your alarm clock, you have a smart home, economy of things.
01:55:12.000It's like total, like, rape of everybody by the system forever.
01:55:19.000My life is like a first-person video game, you know?
01:56:26.000These material appetites, they will never be satisfied.
01:56:32.000And even if they are, it'll never be an adequate substitute for communion with our Holy Father, with somebody, with the author of the world.
01:56:42.000And every mother and father understands the love for a child.
01:59:33.000The classroom couldn't believe it either.
01:59:37.000But in the end, he had logic on his side.
01:59:44.000And at the end of the day, he proved his point.
01:59:47.000I feel like De Niro on Casino Well, they got me starting for the Cino No son, and when you growing on an ice, what you think meet a girl seeking going on a grace with the game, dirty gang for the like the newer focusino.
02:03:11.000When you remove the fear and love of God, you create the fear and love of everything else.
02:03:20.000I'd like to propose a toast to our people.
02:03:26.000I'd like to propose a toast to the Voipers, to White Boy Summer, White Boy Century, to the reaction and the reclamation of the United States.
02:04:18.000We are still enjoying White Boy Summer.
02:04:22.000Summer is still on I don't care if I have to drive there I don't care if I have to get in like Michigan and go all the way around the Panama canal nothing is going to stop White Boy Summer Nothing is going to stop America first.
02:07:11.000I am sending you out like sheep among wool.
02:07:15.000Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
02:07:22.000Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
02:07:30.000Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
02:07:44.000And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
02:07:49.000We can't be held hostage by this country forever.
02:08:33.000We have a great show for you tonight You got your back-back dancer like a punk You got that back-back dancer like a punk
02:08:50.000you there is something involved where we have to forgive them we do have to forgive them for their ignorance we do have to forgive them for their misunderstanding And we have to embrace them and say, better late than never.
02:12:15.000Our featured story, we're talking about potentially the end to the war in Gaza.
02:12:21.000And in a way, we're picking up on the show from last week.
02:12:25.000All throughout last week, we talked about Trump's 20-point plan for peace, which was presented last Monday at a press conference with Netanyahu.
02:12:35.000We talked a little bit last week about what's in the deal and what was added to the deal and the prospect that the deal would ever be agreed upon or implemented.
02:12:45.000And I was very skeptical and pessimistic about it, but it seems like so far, so good.
02:12:53.000The big news today is that Israel and Hamas have agreed to the first phase of that deal.
02:13:01.000And it's important to understand what that means.
02:13:05.000We had a three-phase phased deal, a comprehensive deal back in January.
02:13:12.000Israel did not implement anything beyond the first phase.
02:13:17.000And there was an agreement in principle without many details.
02:13:26.000It's hard to say right now, though, whether it will have the same outcome or a different outcome.
02:13:32.000Seems like there is a stronger will and follow-through in the White House to see this deal finished, to see it through to uh potentially second, third, or other phases.
02:13:43.000But so far, as of tonight, and it came together very quickly, there was an agreement between Israel and Hamas.
02:13:49.000Apparently, there was already a signing in Egypt.
02:13:52.000This happened earlier tonight, and this is implementing phase one of the deal.
02:14:00.000So Hamas will release all of the remaining living Israeli hostages within the next 72 hours, and everything is contingent on that.
02:14:10.000And if Hamas does this, Israel has agreed to release hundreds of their Palestinian prisoners from Hamas, but also from Fatah from other political parties in Gaza.
02:14:23.000And then Israel allegedly is going to pull back from 70% of the Strip.
02:14:31.000Now, what's interesting about this part of the deal is that Israel has not announced that they've agreed to that.
02:14:38.000The first phase says there's a prisoner exchange, prisoner release.
02:17:11.000And a lot of people saw that text and believe this to be incriminating.
02:17:15.000They say this supports this theory that Charlie Kirk was abandoning the pro-Israel cause.
02:17:21.000Obviously that's what it says in the text.
02:17:23.000And that then in furtherance of that Israel killed him to prevent him from leaving the pro-Israel cause they couldn't bribe him.
02:17:33.000They couldn't intimidate him so they had him murdered.
02:17:35.000So the argument goes I would say I'll also add the text has been verified by Andrew Colvet, the PR spokesman for Turning Point, who's kind of been like the PR guy for Charlie Kirk ever since his death as well, almost the representative for Turning Point on this matter.
02:17:54.000So we know the text message is authentic.
02:17:57.000There's some questions about the text who is in this group chat with Charlie Kirk.
02:18:04.000There's allegedly 10 people in there who are they we don't know there's another outstanding question which is what else is being said in the group chat because what we have is one screenshot.
02:18:15.000I believe we have three or four distinct single text messages from Charlie Kirk and a couple of replies from an unnamed other person.
02:18:25.000We don't know the full context of the conversation and I would say that it's probably essential to get that information because although the text messages are authentic we don't know what is the context how did this conversation revolve and who is he saying it to is he venting what did this represent an actual break with his previous advocacy for Israel?
02:18:52.000These are some important outstanding questions but I would say even just with the text messages that we have it paints us a picture about what exactly was going on.
02:19:02.000And in reality I think it proves my point did not leave pro-Israel pro-Israel left Charlie Kirk.
02:19:12.000It's not like he had this epiphany change of heart jump shit because he didn't feel right on the contrary he desperately wanted to be pro-Israel because he is a big tent coalition builder and that is where a lot of the money comes from and that is a That is a substantial part of the donor base of the entire conservative movement.
02:19:36.000So did Charlie Kirk turn his back on that?
02:19:40.000I think what makes more sense is that he was put in an increasingly difficult position where as the coalition builder, as the Big Ten orchestrator, he had to accommodate everybody as the movement was fracturing.
02:19:58.000And this is something that was happening independently of him.
02:20:02.000He, his job was organizing the coalition, and the coalition was fragmenting.
02:20:08.000That was just simply the political reality, largely due to these differences between people like Tucker Carlson and the Israel lobby, people like Cannis Owens or Megan Kelly, or even the college students themselves and the government of Israel.
02:20:26.000And he was put in the unfortunate position of trying to keep everybody happy.
02:20:32.000And well, the pro-Israel side, they pulled the plug.
02:23:49.000And at least speaking for myself, I know that going into it, I sort of knew it was going to be like a two, three, maybe even four hour talk.
02:23:58.000It was going to be what it was, which was clearing the air, very direct, very high IQ in the sense that uh, like I said, we're not having to relitigate all the basics, you know, the kind of biographical information, or we're not going through the rigmarole talking about everything having to do with Israel.
02:24:16.000It was maybe more of a developed conversation.
02:24:20.000I was, we recorded it, I think yesterday, and I walked away feeling really happy about it and happy with everything we covered, and uh, like I said, some of the depth we got into.
02:24:51.000I said, but of course, Dave, as you know, he plays a very important role in this emergent conversation.
02:24:59.000Everybody recognizes it is of great import and significance that suddenly people are able to talk about Jews in Israel in a way that was not possible, in a way that if you talked about these things openly or dissented in the way that you can now, years ago, you'd be canceled, fired, there'd be enormous public pressure.
02:25:20.000Obviously, all of that is changing so rapidly.
02:25:23.000And one of the figures who has been leading the charge is Dave.
02:25:28.000You've got these bigger figures like a Tucker or a Candace, and they've been changing the conversation in their own way.
02:25:37.000But when you tune into Candace or Tucker last year, they brought on Dave to kind of break the ice.
02:25:43.000And he's there on Tim Poole, Joe Rogan, all these kinds of shows.
02:25:47.000And anyway, the point is, and I think I said this in the show the other day, my critique or maybe just my observations about that predicament, it didn't really have to do with him as a guy.
02:26:00.000It wasn't like I was putting him down as a man.
02:26:02.000He's a good guy, but it was more talking about the role that he was playing and why maybe he was playing that role as opposed to other people.
02:26:14.000And at the time, I said, look, it has a lot to do with him being Jewish.
02:26:18.000And, you know, I'm not the only person that has noticed this, that when Turning Point USA in July, when they have their debate, their pro versus anti-Israel debate at SAS, it's two Jews.
02:26:33.000And I don't think that's lost on anybody.
02:26:35.000And it's not to say that Dave doesn't bring a lot to the table.
02:26:38.000He's a brilliant guy, but I think a lot of people noticed it's sort of like if two conservatives wanted to debate about a black issue, and it's a very sensitive, touchy subject.
02:26:52.000It's having to do with something taboo.
02:26:55.000You often get called racist for having a dissenting opinion.
02:26:58.000It was commonplace for many years that you would bring in a black person.
02:27:07.000They have license to dissent, because they are black.
02:27:12.000And that disarms or neutralizes any potential critique, it sort of inoculates the conservative side from any critique that you're being anti-black.
02:27:24.000How could someone that's black be anti-black?
02:27:26.000If the conservative position on blacks has historically been called hateful, racist, anti-black, well, it's safer to have a black person be the representative because it's harder to make the case that that person is coming at it from a racist perspective.
02:27:43.000So I sort of had the same opinion in 2024 and 2025.
02:27:48.000It was like, okay, so everyone's warming up to the topic.
02:27:52.000Let's bring on somebody that cannot plausibly be called anti-Semitic.
02:28:24.000We we want to get to meet him and interface.
02:28:26.000We want to expose him to a new audience.
02:28:29.000We want to nail down what his ideas are.
02:28:33.000And to me, that feels more like an exercise.
02:28:36.000This conversation was truly productive because we're able to determine how and whether and in what ways me and Dave actually disagree, because I think that was sort of ambiguous.
02:28:51.000And that was the subject of my initial dispute with Candace Owens.
02:28:56.000Because Candace had me on her show, white knighting for Dave.
02:29:00.000Of course, she sat me down and on Dave's behalf said, why are you attacking Dave Smith?
02:29:09.000And I told her, I said, look, I said, me and Dave have a real disagreement.
02:29:14.000I said, and what seems to be happening is that Dave represents maybe a more moderate or liberal side of the Israel critical side.
02:29:23.000And whether it's because of this tokenism to soften the blow, or it's because it's ideologically more liberal, I said there's a higher tolerance for that than my position, which is a more radical critique of the whole enchilada of the whole thing.
02:29:39.000And, you know, it was, she, I think was being a little tough with Dave, I think we really straightened it out.
02:29:45.000And what we walked away with, spoiler alert if you haven't seen it, is that Dave really is, and I said this to him, lowercase L liberal.
02:29:56.000And by that, you can take it as classical liberal, a right liberal, as opposed to a left liberal or a progressive libertarian.
02:30:05.000But he comes at it more from the perspective that you've got certain Jews and non-Jews that are pushing things like neoconservatism.
02:30:16.000And so it's a more of a narrow critique.
02:30:19.000It says that you don't really have a problem that proceeds from Jewish identity or Jewishness per se.
02:30:27.000You have some Jewish people, powerful Jewish people, that with a number of non-Jewish people happen to be pushing some aggressive policies.
02:30:37.000And they're coming together for different reasons.
02:30:39.000The defense industry, the ideological neocons, these like democratic globalist types like a Dick Cheney, a Condi Rice, and these fanatical like Kudnik's and Israeli nationalists.
02:31:35.000It is the fact that by by their nature as a group, they have a history of persecution, a history of resistance to assimilation, the history as a tiny minority that makes them inherently tribalistic, distrusting of outsiders, willing and able to put themselves first in combination with their transnational presence.
02:32:00.000And I said, really, that it's a deeper critique.
02:32:04.000And it's really more of a structural critique and saying that I don't want necessarily to stop sending Israel foreign aid and reset relations with Israel.
02:32:13.000America needs to reevaluate its liberal premise and say, can we have American-born Jewish billionaires lobbying for Israel, you know, or American-born Jewish billionaires lobbying for open borders or an open society.
02:32:30.000We have to kind of reflect on whether an open society can tolerate such an aggressive organized minority pushing for their international or foreign national interests.
02:32:43.000That that was that's kind of the disagreement.
02:32:46.000And I don't know that I was surprised, but I felt sort of relieved to hear him say some of the things that he said because it's like, okay, so I'm not crazy.
02:33:26.000Whereas I am illiberal, I am identitarian.
02:33:29.000I do believe in group strategies, group interests.
02:33:34.000And in a democratic open society, these various groups are going to come into conflict.
02:33:40.000And it's actually rational that they that they do so.
02:33:44.000Properly understood, the Jews do have a collective self-interest.
02:33:49.000Whites have a collective self-interest.
02:33:51.000Blacks have a collective self-interest.
02:33:53.000And politics increasingly becomes a forum for those interests to be mediated and increasingly actually to be sharpened and to become a source for conflict.
02:34:06.000And anyway, so that was very interesting.
02:34:47.000And some people are being funny and they're goofing around.
02:34:52.000But I do have to say, Sneeko has really always been there for me.
02:34:56.000And I saw some people in the replies, they were saying, oh, oh, Sneeko's gonna have Nick on his Twitter show because he does these daily um videos on Twitter.
02:35:09.000He makes these like, they're more like artistic video essay type uploads.
02:35:14.000People said, oh, you're having him on your Twitter now that he's on the generational run.
02:35:19.000And then people were basically saying Sneeko was being opportunistic.
02:35:23.000And I think it's only fair to say in reply to that, that if you recall, Sneeko really put me on three years ago.
02:35:32.000When I was on Cozy, before I was on Rumble, before the generational run, when I was canceled by everybody, before I met Yay, it was in the summer of 2022 when I was really languishing, when I was really having a tough time.
02:35:50.000This was way before this was before October 7th, Yay 24, before any kind of hint of this huge run that I've been on for the past couple of years.
02:36:02.000He had me on a stream multiple times, advocated for me when he had really nothing to benefit.
02:36:26.000He's a solid guy, but I saw a lot of gropers giving him shit.
02:36:30.000And I do feel compelled to say this because uh it's the same with Patrick Bet David.
02:36:36.000When people do the right thing, you have to be as lavish in your praise as you are when you're hating on them when they're doing the wrong thing.
02:36:45.000That's that's borrowed from Dale Carnegie, but it's true.
02:36:48.000The groupers need to be just as positive towards people that are helping us out, taking a risk, doing the right thing.
02:36:57.000We have to have a longer memory for the good things that people do for us, as much as we have a memory for the ways that people screw us over and the ways that people are cowardly or don't always do the right thing.
02:37:43.000And then we have a couple more collaborations coming up that are finished that will be released, I think, in the coming days, certainly, I think before next week.
02:37:54.000It's a veritable blitzkrieg of content.
02:43:04.000They said that the suspect has a Fifth and Sixth Amendment right to a fair and speedy trial to a jury of their peers.
02:43:14.000And I think what he was getting at, if we're, if we're being logical, is that if you're trying to convict this guy, you need to convict him before a jury.
02:43:25.000To get a jury, you need to find a group of people in the state of Utah that is not tainted, that they don't know all the facts.
02:43:49.000So in an ordinary murder investigation, the state does not release everything to the public because the trial happens in court, not in the press.
02:44:00.000But in particular, in such a high-profile case, you can't put out everything that you have because you need to find a jury, and then you need to convict him in a court of law before a jury and allow the accused to exhaust all of his legal remedies to the fact that he's being accused for murder.
02:44:19.000So with that being said, the state is claiming that they have all of this, and that will have its day in court.
02:44:26.000The state says they have video, photo, a suspect, a murder weapon, DNA, a confession.
02:45:06.000You have people that are fidgeting at the moment that Charlie Kirk was shot.
02:45:12.000Some are speculating that they're fidgeting because they're concealing a weapon or they're signaling to the shooter, or they were activated when the shot was taken to carry out some kind of pre-planned cleanup operation or something like that.
02:45:29.000There's not a ton in the way of evidence.
02:45:31.000On the state's side, like I said, you've got they have a guy.
02:45:35.000They claim to have a weapon, a written confession, video, photo.
02:46:24.000For the better part of four weeks, she had not produced any hard evidence.
02:46:29.000She has alluded to hard evidence, like the letter, which she never produced.
02:46:35.000She has alluded to video evidence or maybe other evidence of claims, statements by Charlie Kirk.
02:46:43.000Up until Monday, we have not seen any of that.
02:46:45.000And that made me very skeptical of everything that she was saying.
02:46:49.000But finally, on Monday, she brought the goods and she delivered what appears to be a completely authentic text message from Charlie Kirk two days before he was killed from September 8th.
02:47:03.000These are text messages from the morning of September 8th, where Charlie Kirk, very much along the same line as his letter to Netanyahu in May, his remarks on Megan Kelly in August, and other private conversations he had with other people.
02:47:21.000These test text messages are consistent with that.
02:47:25.000He is saying that he's being bullied by the pro-Israel lobby.
02:47:29.000Specifically, they're pushing him to disassociate from Tucker Carlson.
02:47:34.000And he appears to be defiant, saying that if they are trying to push me around and get me to do things up to and including disinvite Tucker Carlson, he said, I will not be bullied.
02:48:01.000It says, quote, conservative commentator Candace Owens leaked text messages suggesting that Charlie Kirk was unhappy with the pro-Israel cause in the days leading up to his death.
02:48:13.000Allegedly sent to a group chat, Kurt's message stated that his organization, Turning Point USA, had lost a Jewish donor after Kirk refused to disinvite controversial right-wing pundit Tucker Carlson from an event.
02:48:26.000He said, quote, just lost another huge Jewish donor, two million dollars per year, because we won't cancel Tucker.
02:48:34.000Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes.
02:48:38.000I cannot and will not be bullied like this.
02:48:41.000They're leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.
02:48:48.000And I want to say at the very beginning, first, we have to separate out two distinct things here, because there really are two distinct claims.
02:49:00.000And they're related, but they're not automatically connected.
02:49:59.000He had never said anything really critical of Israel up until October 7th, never entertained anything Israel critical at his events or in his organization, up until maybe let's say this year or the previous year.
02:50:14.000And so people are claiming that suddenly, because of the war in Gaza, the war in Iran, recent developments, like everybody else, they say Charlie Kirk was changing his tune a little bit.
02:50:26.000Now, why he was doing that and how much and in what way, that is subject for debate.
02:50:31.000But broadly speaking, that's the idea that he was changing his tune a little bit.
02:50:39.000As evidenced by his contentious relationship with the Israel lobby.
02:50:45.000They were not happy with him, obviously.
02:50:48.000As evidenced by his public statements, like on Megan Kelly and his way that he hosted Tucker and even Dave Smith at his turning point conference in July.
02:50:59.000The questions He asked Ben Shapiro on his show the morning before he was killed.
02:53:32.000But there's a Jewish turning point donor who this was reported on, I think in the New York Post in the weeks even after Charlie Kirk had been killed.
02:53:41.000There was a Jewish donor that withheld a $2 million per year contribution and was actually going to redirect that to a different organization.
02:53:51.000And we knew even before this text message went out that the reason this Jewish donor was pulling the money is because the Jews were not happy with Charlie.
02:54:01.000They saw him as being too lenient to the Israel critics on the right wing, like Tucker, like Dave, others.
02:54:10.000They didn't like this new line he was taking, whatever it was, if it was anti-Israel, Israel critical, gesturing towards something more.
02:54:32.000I'm gonna have to leave the pro-Israel cause because they are intolerant of what I'm trying to do.
02:54:39.000And I think what is kind of concealed in that message, or maybe what is explicit actually, is that Charlie did not leave the pro-Israel cause.
02:58:18.000He said, everywhere I go, half the questions I get are about Israel, and they're all negative, and I'm happy to do it, but like I don't want to do it.
02:58:27.000That was the message of the letter was you guys are losing the PR war and it's dragging me down.
02:58:35.000I got to go and face these kids that hate Israel.
02:58:38.000And why do you think they hate Israel?
02:58:39.000It's because you're not, you're not explaining yourselves.
02:58:57.000Bill Ackman's a pro-Israel Jewish donor, and they set up this event in the Hamptons.
02:59:02.000And the premise of the event is they're inviting these turning point influencers to the retreat to train them up so that they can then go on the campuses and defend Israel among other things.
02:59:14.000And Josh Hammer is there, and Seth Dylan is there, and all the major, the uh Xavier DeRusso, these people that are literally on the payroll, they're all there.
02:59:24.000And I think once again, maybe this was in the service of offloading the responsibility to defend Israel to these other people.
02:59:37.000So the he reaches out to Ackman in May, the retreat is in August.
02:59:40.000In July, Charlie has Tucker Carlson speak at SAS and hosts a debate between Dave Smith and Josh Hammer about Israel.
02:59:49.000And once again, I think that Charlie Kirk is looking at the situation where you still have a Republican party that's very pro-Israel, but you also have this very influential element that is very critical.
03:00:04.000He's the biggest influencer, the biggest host, has the biggest show.
03:00:08.000And he's pushing with many high profile guests this very critical line about Israel.
03:00:15.000And I think that Charlie at Turning Point at the event, as a big tent coalition builder, wanted to show that there could be coexistence.
03:00:25.000This was sort of paying lip service to the idea that we are gonna be a little more tolerant.
03:00:32.000The big tent can fit everybody inside of it.
03:00:35.000It was an accommodation for people like Tucker or those that like Tucker, and saying, we're still gonna have pro-Israel people, but we're also gonna open up the tent and we're gonna keep Tucker inside of it.
03:00:47.000And we're gonna host this debate and demonstrate that we can still have people maybe from both sides of this issue inside the Republican tent or inside the conservative tent.
03:00:58.000That was maybe the big action that caused the chafing with the Israel lobby.
03:01:04.000They hated that Tucker was welcome there.
03:01:08.000They hated that Dave Smith won the debate.
03:01:11.000And then quickly after, Charlie Kirk was doing damage control.
03:01:14.000He did a focus group with a bunch of the student chapter leaders, and they were venting and airing out, this is what we think about Israel.
03:01:23.000And I think what Charlie Kirk was doing was kind of showing to the donors and saying, look, this is what I have to work with.
03:02:02.000And I think what Charlie was doing with the focus group was to take this to the donors and say, look, this is what we have to work with.
03:02:10.000You may not like what I did, but this is where 50% of my kids are.
03:02:15.000This is where 50% of my student chapter presidents, my student, you know, whatever you want to call them, my youth activists, this is where they are.
03:02:27.000And he's telling them, like, Houston, we have a problem.
03:02:31.000And we're not going to solve the problem for the Republican coalition, keeping it together, being pro-Israel by banishing these people, banishing Tucker and half of our audience.
03:02:44.000I think that's what Kirk was doing there was saying, you can hear it from the horse's mouth.
03:02:49.000This is what I have to deal with at the debates, at my turning point chapters, at my events.
03:02:57.000And we have to accommodate these people.
03:03:29.000He said, but being one of the strongest champions that has nothing to prove on that front, Charlie says, now I'm getting called the Jew hater.
03:03:39.000He's he's basically saying, how dare you?
03:04:23.000I don't actually work for you, even though you give me money.
03:04:27.000And you're going to call me an anti-Semite and pull your Funds, he's saying, wow, how am I supposed to, how am I supposed to accommodate you any longer?
03:04:37.000And then a month later, this is early September, this is where we get this text where he says, What the f they're pulling the money.
03:05:29.000And I believe Charlie believed that also.
03:05:31.000He also reaffirmed that on the Megan Kelly interview.
03:05:34.000Colvid said, but his criticisms were that the war in Gaza should end.
03:05:41.000He disagreed with the conduct of Israel in the war in Gaza, the attacks on the churches, some of the aggressive attacks on the Palestinians.
03:05:50.000And he disagreed that they were dragging us into a war with Iran.
03:07:15.000And Charlie's trying to say no, but we we really can't.
03:07:19.000I'm not gonna do that, and we can't push them away.
03:07:22.000And the Jewish donors said, well, then we're cutting off the money.
03:07:26.000And Charlie said, well, then you're leaving me no choice.
03:07:29.000If you are not going to be reasonable, and you won't let me accommodate everybody, then I have no choice but to abandon you and go further to the other side.
03:07:41.000I think that is a that is a much more nuanced perspective on what was happening.
03:07:46.000I I do not, I continue to believe that he was not turning on Israel per se.
03:07:54.000I don't even think he was turning on the pro-Israel donors.
03:07:57.000I think that the he was put in an impossible situation and the donors were breathing down his neck as they always do.
03:08:06.000It is the pro-Israel side that is intolerant, aggressive.
03:08:35.000And if Charlie is not basically bowing down before the Western wall, if he's not making six million trips back to Israel to kiss the ring, they're lumping him in with the rest.
03:08:47.000And to me, the real story there is not that Charlie flipped.
03:08:53.000It's that Israel is alienating literally everybody.
03:08:58.000Gradually and incrementally over time, they're alienating everybody.
03:09:03.000All these people that started with questions went from zero to 60 because they were told by the Jews, you can't ask questions.
03:09:12.000You're asking questions, you don't support the war, you're an anti-Semite, you're out.
03:10:03.000It's that they are pushing everybody away.
03:10:06.000And I would say that Charlie Kirk, he is somebody that wanted to support Israel, did support Israel, was one of their most loyal supporters.
03:10:15.000And I think, if given the opportunity, would have accommodated everybody.
03:10:19.000Would have accommodated Shapiro and Josh Hammer and Seth Dylan and Bill Ackman, who he reached out to and Sean McGuire, all these guys were trying to get involved, but he was also trying to accommodate the other side.
03:10:32.000And Charlie was trying to have it always.
03:13:11.000Just because I don't believe that Israel killed him, does not mean that this does not shine a light on a bigger conversation, which is that whether they pulled the trigger or not, Charlie dying when he did shined a light on what was going through his head at the time.
03:13:29.000It shows us that, like, you know, whether Israel had a hand in his killing, it will ultimately be part of the story of Israel losing everyone, losing Western Europe, losing the world, losing Trump, losing Tucker, Candace, losing America, losing Charlie Kirk.
03:13:50.000And so we don't need to believe that they pulled the trigger, although I'm open to that if there's evidence to say that they still lost him in the final tally, they lost him.
03:14:02.000And it's interesting where he would have gone because it seems that Charlie Kirk was basically becoming a Gruyper.
03:14:12.000In 2019, the Gruper war was waged, saying you are too pro-Israel, you are too pro-legal immigration and liberal on race, you're too liberal on social issues and not strong enough as a traditional Christian.
03:14:29.000Over the past six years, he became very traditionally Christian and hostile to LGBT, feminism, all of it.
03:14:39.000In the past couple of years, he's become very pro-white, calling for an immigration moratorium, really leaning into racial differences, talking about black crime, talking about the like race in a more explicit way.
03:16:07.000What do you think Tucker and Candace would have been speaking about at America Fest, the pre-eminent biggest conservative convention in America in December 25, in the middle of the Gaza war, all the goings-ons, it would have sounded like Gruyper war and it would have basically sealed the deal.
03:16:25.000The Gruper ascendancy in the conservative movement and in particular the youth movement would have been a done deal.
03:16:34.000Did Israel take him out for that reason?
03:16:41.000I think they had a very clear motive to do it.
03:16:43.000I don't think it's likely, but I think what has been established is a very clear motive at the minimum.
03:16:49.000And I would say what we could say more than that is that Charlie Kirk certainly, I don't know that he was looking to leave the pro-Israel movement, but they did it to themselves.
03:17:00.000This is what they they always overplay their hand.
03:17:06.000These Jewish berserkers at the ZOA at Daily Wire, at all these different this constellation of institutions, the donors, it really is them.
03:17:19.000It just goes to show for all the people that say me or Tucker, whoever, we're obsessed with Israel, we can't get along.
03:18:16.000Any of you watching, me, Tucker, Candace, Dave Smith.
03:18:21.000Do you think any one of us woke up one day in America in the 21st century?
03:18:27.000And we out of a clear blue sky became really interested in age old anti-Semitic tropes.
03:18:35.000We woke up one day and started believing 19th century ancient tropes about Jewish people, these like anachronistic anti-Semitic blood libel.
03:19:41.000The goodwill of Christians, Americans, Europeans, it has evaporated.
03:19:49.000So your museums, your victim narrative, your oives, you can shove them up your ass.
03:19:57.000And we're looking at people like Josh Hammer and Mark Levin, and we're saying, listen, motherfucker, this is America.
03:20:05.000We're looking at Josh Hammer, this ugly fucking goblin, and we're grabbing him by his lapel, this tiny little goblin and saying, listen, motherfucker, you can go back to Israel.
03:20:46.000We are altruistic to a detriment to a fault.
03:20:51.000Who cared more about the Holocaust than whites?
03:20:57.000Meanwhile, they were importing Muslims and meanwhile they were facilitating the browning of America, growing the progressive left, a civil rights movement, all this kind of stuff.
03:21:11.000And now they want to say the whole world is against us.
03:23:18.000You know, he saw me and Tucker getting electrocuted by Mark Levin, and he picked him up, and you know, and then he said, Let me look on you with my own eyes.
03:23:30.000There's something to be said about that.
03:27:54.000We successfully got the Daily Herald's comment section shut down.
03:27:56.000We pressed them on their enforcement on hate speech, and the editor Lisa Friedman Minor was forced to remove the entire function on their site because they couldn't defend their own dose on issues of Jewish power, immigration, crime stats, etc.
03:28:04.000I don't really know what that is, but uh I'll have to check that out.
03:28:07.000White ass nigga going hard as fuck sent $20.
03:28:09.000I'm young and fortunate enough to buy my own house away from mutual suspects.
03:28:12.000The private company I work for is being bought by BlackRock for billions.
03:28:48.000I hear the rapture is only an evangelical interpretation, which is not followed by orthodoxy or Catholicism.
03:28:52.000Why do those denominations not believe in this?
03:28:53.000But evangelism doesn't is a mainstream idea.
03:28:55.000Well, it has to do with um the prophecy in the book of Revelation, and it has to do with what you call millenarianism, which is the idea that the events that are described in Revelation, when do they take place?
03:29:10.000And Protestants believe that the book of Revelation describes a lot of events to come.
03:29:19.000And Catholics, as far as I am aware, these describe things that happened already.
03:29:26.000These are things that have already taken place.
03:29:28.000Like the Antichrist was Emperor Nero, and um.
03:29:33.000So our eschatology is a little bit different.
03:29:36.000I do I do believe the Catholic interpretation is that some of what happens in Revelation is the apocalypse, but a lot of it is describing what happens in the first century, if I'm not mistaken.
03:29:48.000Uh, but I I am not the expert on eschatology.
03:30:35.000If interested in Christianity, some verses even make me tear up.
03:30:37.000I believe in the divinity of Christ, but wrestle with taking every story in a literal sense.
03:30:40.000As a newbie, unsure about all the different denominations.
03:30:41.000When does someone truly know they can call themselves a Christian in a spiritual sense?
03:30:44.000I don't feel good enough to claim it yet.
03:30:47.000Um, what a Catholic would say about when you're Christian is when you are baptized, you believe in the resurrection and salvation by Christ.
03:31:02.000Because to be Catholic, you need to be a part of the church.
03:31:04.000You need the sacraments, you need to actually convert.
03:31:08.000But to be called a Christian, it's like three specific things.
03:31:10.000I think it's like you believe in the sacred scriptures, you believe in Christ, and you're baptized.
03:31:15.000I think those are like the big three, but I might be wrong on that.
03:31:18.000Um, and I would say is as long as you believe in the resurrection and the divinity of Jesus Christ, that makes you a by definition makes you a Christian.
03:31:27.000Um depend it depends on your doctrine, you know, what you believe about salvation and about the textual interpretation and things like that.
03:31:36.000But as long as you believe that Christ was a person who is also God, you know, he had this hypostatic union of he was both divine and human, fully divine and fully human.
03:32:59.000And if he's peddling lies about me that I know are not true, then it's like, okay, so what else are you lying about?
03:33:05.000It's like what Glenn Greenwald said about Whitney Webb.
03:33:09.000Uh and I don't have a dog in that fight, but Glenn has this like ongoing feud with Whitney Webb, and he said, he goes, you know, I know she has said things about me that aren't true because he goes, I'm me.
03:33:21.000You know, like you don't have to believe it, but I know.
03:33:24.000He goes, and uh that causing a question or credibility, and I feel the same way about Ron Uns after that.
03:34:15.000Yeah, I that's a little idiotic, though, because you know, when people say that kind of thing, I've also heard from actual ballistics experts.
03:34:24.000One, we don't know what kind of projectile it is.
03:34:27.000We know a caliber, we don't know what type of bullet it is.
03:34:31.000And what's more, and I've heard this from other people, bullets, excuse me, bullets do do strange things inside of a human body.
03:34:40.000It's not, it's not unheard of that something unexpected happens with a bullet.
03:34:46.000Um, so I really just hate this kind of amateur, like begging the question.
03:37:00.000Candace comes out with unclear info weeks later, and now everyone is dogkilling on you, calling you Zog and saying Candace is the real truth teller.
03:37:11.000I think everybody sees I was proven right.
03:37:13.000I mean, if Charlie Kirk is out there saying, you leave me no choice, that's very different than saying, I'm not taking your money, I'm going against you, saying you left me no choice, you won't work with me.
03:40:03.000Why is it that the Pope is always undermining U.S. immigration policy?
03:40:08.000Because now I see Catholic priests in Chicago and they're doing like protests against the deportations.
03:40:15.000And they're doing that because they're emboldened by the Pope.
03:40:19.000The Pope sets the tone, and now you have ecclesiastical authority, you know, the clergy in America that are that are protesting this political decision.
03:40:28.000And it's like, You know, you are the vicar of Christ on earth for a heavenly kingdom.
03:40:35.000I I don't know where Jesus gave you the authority to tell us who we can and can't let in our country.
03:40:41.000You know, these people are here illegally.
03:42:35.000Like, think of all the the grave matters of morals and theology in America.
03:42:41.000The apostasy, the idolatry, the blasphemy, the killing, the abortion, the the pornography, the sexual sins, the disordered nature of the sexes and their relationship.
03:42:53.000And you're gonna weigh in and say, well, you know, these deportations are the problem.
03:43:05.000I say that with reverence for the office and everything, but it's it's it's a little bit out of line.
03:43:12.000And it starts to get irritating when Catholics in America are starting to undermine this because the Pope has taken the lead on it in this way.
03:43:21.000It's like that's not helping, actually.
03:43:35.000And I I don't want to tell you how I know that, but they they know that's bullshit.
03:43:39.000There have not been two million self-deportations.
03:43:42.000The number that was produced from the FOIA request, there was a FOIA request for deportation figures from January through to the end of July.
03:43:51.000And they said that we were deporting roughly 750 on average per day.
03:43:56.000And that figure was compiled by by some woman who is she's not on board with the agenda.
03:44:05.000Uh, and you know, and so it's a little better than that FOIA request.
03:44:10.000I've heard from certain people that second, third hand that uh it's a little bit better than than what we covered earlier, the FOIA data, but not by much.
03:44:21.000And they know the self-deportation thing, that's bullshit.
03:44:24.000And the administration's holding it up.
03:44:26.000Susie Wiles is holding back the workplace raids.
03:44:29.000Steven Miller is trying to get these H2A visas solidified, like the the administration is not serious, okay?
03:44:37.000And and the people in CBP and ICE and DHS are very frustrated because for political reasons they're being held back from doing everything they can do.
03:45:32.000Um here's the thing about decline of the West.
03:45:35.000You have to kind of prepare yourself because what Spengler attempted to do in Decline of the West, the something that was common at the time that we don't have, was a study of civilizations.
03:45:46.000It was like a new field of knowledge, a holistic field of knowledge.
03:45:54.000This, in my opinion, was kind of like the pinnacle of um maybe like intellectual life in the West.
03:46:02.000And so Spengler had this ambitious project that he was going to create, like a new field of social studies, of knowledge, studying all of civilization.
03:46:15.000And so what goes into that is everything in a civilization.
03:46:18.000So he analyzes the civilization of the ancients, the civilization of uh early Christianity, the civilization of modern Europe from the lens of everything about it math, science, architecture, fine art, music, all of it.
03:46:40.000And so if you don't have a good base of knowledge about those things, you know, you're not going to be equipped.
03:46:47.000So I hadn't been in calculus for a long time.
03:46:49.000There's a lot of talk about the infinitesimal principle.
03:46:52.000There's a lot of talk about flying buttresses and gothic architecture.
03:46:57.000There's a lot of talk about Mozart and Rembrandt and all these kinds of things, like that if you don't, if you don't have the cultural language, it's gonna be hard to understand.
03:47:11.000I read the abridged version, and I was kind of like having to catch up on my math and fine art knowledge to even decode a lot of it, but it's excellent.
03:47:21.000Freddie Gray, I feel like I've talked to him before, but I don't really know a lot about him.
03:47:38.000Seems like mainstream is attempting to rest narrative control power away from me now that 9-11 is real theories are prominent in discourse.
03:47:42.000Tucker is front running the issue with his 9-11 show.
03:47:45.000They would prefer to do the damage control.
03:47:46.000The irony is they're probably waking up in the process.
03:47:48.000Well, here's the I don't know how intentional it is.
03:47:52.000Having talked to Dave and other people, I think that we have to be open to the possibility that they just disagree because they're liberal.
03:48:06.000And I don't know that Dave is like engaged in a conspiracy to do a limited hangout and front load and everything you're describing.
03:48:15.000I think that look, he's he has liberal priors as a libertarian.
03:48:22.000He's not a white nationalist, like Catholic uh identitarian.
03:48:27.000And that's why I said to Candace, it's sort of a shame that me and Candace that she didn't um act in good faith because it's a really fucking important conversation, but she wanted to turn it into a gotcha.
03:48:42.000It's not a it's not a gotcha, it's a real difference of opinion.
03:48:45.000And I said about Dave, I said, well, he's like religiously Jewish, and she's like, no, he's not.
03:50:24.000And it's like Catholics have a totally different worldview where we need to be promoting the salvation of mankind.
03:50:30.000And um, so that's why I said that Dave is never going to really be in complete agreement, because as Catholics, we do believe that Jews are special.
03:50:41.000We do believe that there's a special relationship between them and God and between us and them and their role in the history of revelation and salvation.
03:50:52.000And that's something that Dave is just never gonna see it in that level, because to him, Jews are just another ethnic group, maybe.
03:51:23.000Like that, that's a bridge that there's no ideological, or that's um a gap where there's no ideological bridge there.
03:51:31.000That was sort of what I was getting at.
03:51:33.000So even though Dave Smith might not go to synagogue, it's like he is not Catholic.
03:51:40.000He's not Christian, and that in a sense makes him part of the secular thing.
03:51:44.000That's why he won't see it in the same way.
03:51:47.000So anyway, and I think Tucker, in many ways, is similar.
03:51:51.000Tucker's not Catholic, he's obviously not Jewish, but I think Tucker has a similar kind of liberal prior where he says, like Israel's just like any other country, Jews are just like any other people, and we just need a colorblind meritocracy.
03:52:05.000We just need to get along on the basis of treat everybody nicely.
03:52:11.000And um we're we're slightly different.
03:52:16.000Hey, Nick's smile, did you see Matt Gates' interview where he describes iPad conferences as marking attendees, WQR codes to stand and donate to the best going?
03:52:48.000Change the conversation on transgenderism.
03:52:51.000You have to give credit where it's due.
03:52:53.000So I've been very frustrated with Matt Walsh over the years, and I want to make it clear if he ever sees this or if anyone knows him, like I don't hate Matt Walsh, okay?
03:53:05.000And I've said this many, I have very strong criticisms of him and what he's doing, but he seems like a good guy, seems like a nice enough guy.
03:53:41.000Um, so even though in principle I'm really strongly opposed to his recusal from talking about Israel and the Jews and working for Shapiro, I think it's inexcusable.
03:53:53.000You gotta give him credit where it's due.
03:53:55.000He is an activist, he is making change as a Catholic, and I respect that, even though I don't agree with everything he does.
03:54:04.000So he doesn't need to hear that from me, but I tell it like it is.
03:54:38.000I mean, and some people are saying, well, hey, dreams can be prophetic.
03:54:42.000Yeah, they can be, but they're fucking not evidence, you know.
03:54:47.000If dreams were evidence, then you know I if you knew what I dream about, like we all have dreams, and sometimes they mean something, and sometimes maybe more often they mean nothing.
03:56:00.000So to me, that was just kind of the essence of her show.
03:56:02.000It's like she had one good piece of evidence that she was bold enough to put out there, and I give her credit for that, but she dragged it out for her own benefit, and then she mixes it with a bunch of slop.
03:56:14.000Well, and I know Tyler's gonna be exonerated and it will have international implications because I had a dream.
03:56:56.000You know, I Char Leech in the afterlife chose to visit me in a dream to deliver this prophecy that we'll have international, and she's in the middle of it, like a modern day uh, you know, whoever received the apparition, the Marion Apparitions.
03:58:06.000But yeah, and here's the thing about the dream.
03:58:07.000If Cash Patel, and I said this on Telegram, if Cash Patel came into a press conference and said, Charlie visited me in a dream and said, mission accomplished, you got him.
03:59:21.000I some of my friends love to decorate.
03:59:24.000They got the decorations up, they got the fucking, you know, Halloween cups and towels and throw pillows and you know, stuff like that.
03:59:34.000I, you know, I just don't have the time.
03:59:36.000I'd like, you know, and I I did this with uh for the show, obviously, but I wish I was more festive, but I've been I'm gonna be working this entire month.
04:00:33.000Does fat hubby James Lindsay realize you're indicating even more collaborations, or did he just retort with something he thought sounded cool?
04:02:48.000But if you're doing this for a living, you need to know these things, which means you need to read a lot.
04:02:52.000If you're not doing that, you're not doing your job.
04:02:55.000And so when you have a person that's repeatedly getting basic shit wrong, it's like, How do you have any idea what's going on in the world?
04:03:03.000She doesn't know when the Russian Revolution happens.
04:03:51.000The second I start bringing guests on the show, it's going to get really fucking annoying because everybody I know is going to be like, what am I getting on the show?
04:03:59.000It's going to take all of like two months before everyone I've ever known crashes out on me because they haven't gotten an invite yet.
04:07:24.000Because, like the pan Arabists, the Islamists have a hegemonic view, a hegemonic ideology for the Middle East.
04:07:33.000The pan Arabists wanted to unite the Middle East on the basis of Arab ethnicity.
04:07:39.000The Shiite Islamists in Iran want to unite the Middle East on the basis of Shiite Islam.
04:07:46.000And there's vast populations of Shiites in Syria, in Iraq, in Oman, in um in Bahrain, in Saudi's eastern province in Lebanon.
04:07:59.000And so that that poses another unique challenge because if Iran can unite all the Shiites and spread its influence, then they expand their power.
04:08:07.000So it's really a question of all the things that make a state powerful.
04:08:13.000Population, military, productive capacity, and and then a sort of uh intangible thing like ideology that can extend the periphery of how they could project their power.
04:08:29.000So Egypt, Iran, and Turkey are the most populous countries in the Middle East.
04:08:34.000They have the biggest populations by far, they have the biggest economies, they have the strongest sense of identity, the most solid, and then therefore they could build the biggest militaries.
04:08:43.000So that's historically why Israel's preoccupied with Egypt and Iran.
04:08:48.000Uh, but then you also have these militaries that are built up that are allying with these countries like Iraq and Syria.
04:08:55.000They're concerned about Lebanon because Lebanon shares a border with Israel, and there's a lot of cross-border attacks on Israel that originate from Lebanon, funded and supplied through Syria, from Syria, from Iran.
04:09:09.000And they're preoccupied with Yemen only recently because an Iranian proxy group has taken control of the most important cities in Yemen in uh Sana'a, the capital, and uh they are able to launch attacks on Israeli shipping and on the Israeli state.
04:09:26.000But if Yemen went back under the control of the Saudi monarchy, they wouldn't have a problem with Yemen as much.
04:09:32.000Just like they don't have a problem with Bahrain.
04:09:34.000Bahrain is all Shiites that are probably loyal to Iran, but it's run by a Sunni monarchy.
04:09:40.000And the lit and they have a problem with Qatar because Qatar mediates with Iran.
04:09:44.000So you just have to look at kind of these underlying factors.
04:09:48.000But that's it's not like you just look at a map and say, well, what about this country?
04:10:08.000I started watching in January, and I have also recently started attending mass, and your show is a big reason why.
04:10:11.000I frequently think about your rant about Italians and Muncharks on the ProPocast, and I had the thought that it must ring true even more with Mexican guys.
04:10:26.000When uh when my parents were getting together, they didn't like my dad's mom didn't like it because she's Irish.
04:10:34.000My my dad's dad was dead, my mom's dad was dead.
04:10:37.000But when my parents got together, both their moms were alive, my dad's mom didn't like it because she was Irish and she hated Italians, and my mom's mom didn't like it because my dad was half Mexican.
04:11:55.000I was wondering, what's your way of discerning what's real and what's nonsense, slash propaganda with the news, reading articles and such, but as well as on social Media like Instagram.
04:13:53.000Do you really think that people are sitting around waiting for their most deeply held lifelong convictions to be changed with a fucking debate?
04:14:03.000Like, do you do you know anything about human beings?
04:14:06.000How do I get someone to change their mind about their religion?
04:14:10.000You know, if that were easy, I think a lot of bloodshed would have been avoided over the past 10,000 years.
04:14:18.000How do I get my mom to stop believing the religion that she has been a part of for 50 years?
04:14:26.000How do me, her son that came from her womb?
04:14:31.000How do I convince a woman 20 years my at least my senior and my literal mom to change her religious views that she's had for five decades?
04:14:53.000In order for someone to change their mind, they have to cooperate with you, which means that they're open to changing their mind.
04:15:03.000If they're not, no argument is going to work.
04:15:06.000I don't know if you know people, but by their very nature, it they're they're not sitting around waiting for someone, anyone, least of all their children, or strangers or colleagues or peers to come up and because they know everything, to change their deeply most important held views.
04:15:29.000As a matter of fact, they're very resistant to that.
04:15:33.000And so to change anyone's mind, it requires first an openness.
04:15:47.000Two, if you're going to change somebody's mind over time, you have to do it subtly in a non-confrontational way, and really more leading by example.
04:15:57.000Nobody ever changes their mind because of an argument.
04:16:00.000They change their mind because something somehow will click for them.
04:16:07.000You don't know how, you don't know exactly when.
04:16:12.000Maybe it'll be an epiphany, maybe something will finally break through, and they'll just start to think about things differently.
04:16:18.000That's why it's important to lead by example, be a resource, be available.
04:16:23.000Um, sometimes it's worthwhile to take a stand or maybe to let people know where you stand.
04:16:29.000But I would say it's really more being there for people that are ready to change their mind than foisting your beliefs on people because there's nothing more annoying than that.
04:16:39.000People always ask me why I'm not super aggressive when I when I do conversations.
04:16:44.000It's because I'm not looking to tell somebody, hey, I'm smarter than you, I know more than you, and you are wrong, and you need to believe this.
04:16:53.000I'm there to explain my thought process, and I'm there to listen to their thought process.
04:17:01.000And maybe they'll take something from it, and maybe the audience will, you know, but I'm not, I'm not there to like uh humiliate the other person or make them lose face or to impose my view on them because I don't think that's how persuasion works, actually.
04:17:39.000I just wanted to say how much I look up to you.
04:17:40.000You've taught me a lot and have really helped open my eyes to the problems of our world and country and helped me research more and not just believe everything I hear.
04:19:07.000I think that 80% of the population is not have the IQ to lead a self-guided study like that.
04:19:17.000Like they just don't have the consciousness, they don't have the cognitive ability to do that.
04:19:21.000And unfortunately for you people, you will be being spoon-fed uh opinions and told what to think for the rest of your life, being manipulated based on your emotions and your whims and your passions in the moment, what's going on in your life.
04:20:48.000If you you are going to, if you are going to get into law school, do not write a personal statement on race and I what was your first option?
04:20:58.000What was plan A About why six million didn't perish.
04:21:02.000Like, what what are you thinking, man?
04:21:06.000In this climate, in the midst of a global pandemic of anti-Semitism, you thought.
04:23:09.000And I I love being unrestrained, unlimited, unbounded.
04:23:16.000And in New York, I feel very suffocated.
04:23:20.000Everything is tight, everything is congested.
04:23:22.000You know, it's gridlock, it's tight little spaces, tight corners, too many fucking people, people looking at you, bums, having to deal with people all the time.
04:28:21.000I guess I'm a little it also said I have some Albanian DNA, some Lithuanian, like 1% Albanian, 1% Lithuanian, some Iranian, some like um West Asian, Caucasian DNA from like Iran.
04:29:06.000Nick, what's your position for California voters on proposition 50?
04:29:08.000Redrawing the districts and gerrymandering to combat what Texas did.
04:29:10.000The estimated cost of this is 282 million.
04:29:12.000251 million of that was for county election costs.
04:29:14.000God bless and praying for you and your family.
04:29:18.000Um Yeah, I the thing is they'll lose that.
04:29:23.000Because all the democratic states are already gerrymandered.
04:29:27.000So the juice is not worth the squeeze there.
04:29:30.000If they and I know that Texas started it, but if California's gonna, I I know what they're doing.
04:29:36.000They're like, there's like an independent board that decides, and so the proposition, I forget exactly the mechanism, but they're basically gonna make it so they can politicize how the districts are drawn and make it more partisan Democrat to like balance out what Texas is doing.
04:29:52.000But if there's like an arms race for Republican and Democratic states to do this, Republicans can get way more seats out of this than Democrats can.
04:30:22.000That same commissioner doxxed him, and the city is doing nothing to help, even though he's the one being targeted because they refused to take their Instagram post down.
04:31:37.000It was lightning warfare because of the speed of it, because of the speed of the advance of the ground forces of the combined arms ground forces.
04:31:45.000So and that's like the I feel like the first thing they teach you about the European theater of World War II.
04:31:53.000That that's like a vocabulary word like uh like that we had drop that we dropped the atomic bomb on Japan, or like that we island hopped in uh the Pacific theater.
04:32:03.000I feel like that's just one of those things that everyone knows.
04:32:06.000Blitzkrieg, it's also just like common parlance.
04:33:04.000Do you think since Israel was losing the digital war and Charlie Kirk being in the front line of it all would be better to off him?
04:33:07.000Again, not enough evidence to prove to give us so called nobody's a voice in major politics in Charlie Kirk's platform like TikTok messages WhatsApp Israel pulls away, Charlie has no choice, he was pro.
04:33:13.000Yeah, like I said, it might be it might establish a motive.
04:34:19.000The way Candace is slowly leaking and clickbaiting what little she has treated it like another drama episode to drive viewership is honestly disgusting, and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it.
04:34:24.000I'm starting to wonder if Candace herself played a role in the killing knowing it would do wonders for her career.
04:36:13.000I mean, I'm not maybe it's a d a generational thing, they don't know what it means, but like, well, I'm not saying, you know, Hitler did nothing wrong.
04:37:09.000What is your standpoint on Charlie Kirk being killed by microphone theory that exploded, or that he was a Psyop, had no funeral, no pictures playing with kids, Erica kinda being weird, etc.
04:37:37.000Saying you're $42,755 out of $59,762, or $21.5% held in ice detention, have no criminal conviction according to data current as of September 21st, 2025.
04:37:45.000Many of those convicted committed only minor offenses, including traffic violations.