CIVIL WAR IMMINENT??? 25 Governors Join Texas In BORDER SHOWDOWN Against Feds | America First Ep. 1283CIVIL WAR IMMINENT??? 25 Governors Join Texas In BORDER SHOWDOWN Against Feds | America First Ep. 1283
In this episode of America First, host Nicholas J. Fuentes talks about the Supreme Court ruling allowing the Border Patrol to remove the barbed wire from the border with Mexico, and why Texas Gov. Greg Abbott should not back down. He also discusses the 25 Republican governors who have come out in support of the Texas governor, and what they should do in the wake of the ruling. And he talks about why the border crisis may not even be a constitutional crisis at all, and whether it may be a political ploy by the Obama administration to distract attention from other pressing issues. Finally, he explains why he thinks there may not be much of a "constitutional crisis" at all and why he doesn't think it's going to become a full-blown "pro-Second Amendment crisis." America First is a show that focuses on the American people and their voice in the political process. It's a show about what matters, what matters and what matters most, and how we should be doing all of the things we can do to improve our lives and the lives of those we care most about. America First! Thank you for listening, and God bless you! -Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden - Thank you, Joe Biden, and thank you, Sarah Palin and Sarah Sanders, for supporting the border wall, and for standing up for the border, and standing up to President Obama, for being a voice for the people who need a safe, secure, and fair and justly defended. . Thanks to everyone who has stood up for our border, Texas, and stood up to the border. and said no to the federalism, and said yes to the Texas border patrol. Thank you. We love you, and we thank you for being loud and clear. , and we appreciate you, thank you and we will continue to fight for you, we will keep fighting, we are here for you. We will not give up, we won t give in, we do not give in and we won't back, we stay here, we keep on fighting, We will stay here and we keep you, stay strong, we don t back, and keep on coming, we come back, We keep on keep on going, we and we stay right here, stay with you, Thank you and stay strong. -Let s stay tuned for you stay with us, we re here, and stay with ya, stay long and keep moving forward.
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00:10:30.000We're continuing our coverage of the ongoing constitutional crisis in Texas.
00:10:36.000Or rather, over the border crisis in Texas.
00:10:43.000And we covered this last night and talked about what a big deal this is or how this maybe prefigures what may become a big deal in the future, which is some kind of Republican Confederacy against a permanent Democrat majority.
00:11:01.000And we'll talk a little bit about that tonight as well.
00:11:05.000But the big story tonight kind of played out exactly like I said yesterday.
00:11:10.000There are now 25 Republican governors that are supporting the state of Texas as they defy the U.S.
00:11:19.000Supreme Court ruling backing the Biden administration, which seeks to remove barbed wire that's been deployed in the Rio Grande Valley.
00:11:33.000This is every Republican governor in the United States minus one, the governor of Vermont.
00:11:40.000It's all 25 and they're going out as well as the former president Donald Trump and members of different congressional delegations and senators.
00:11:52.000It's like nationally Republicans are supporting the state of Texas.
00:11:59.000As they're basically challenging the federal government and challenging the supremacy and the jurisdiction of the federal government on immigration.
00:12:10.000It's a little bit thorny and like I said last night I don't think that anything will happen here and I think that's the case because there are such high-profile mainstream figures supporting it
00:12:25.000Whenever you see that, you know it's fake.
00:13:12.000The Supreme Court said the feds can remove it and the state authorities are just merely building a lot of it and they won't let the feds into the specific park to go in there to take it down.
00:13:26.000So it seems to be more of, like I said yesterday, maybe a misunderstanding than it is a true constitutional crisis and a question of jurisdiction.
00:13:38.000But the Republicans are pressuring Greg Abbott and the Democrats are pressuring Joe Biden.
00:13:43.000The Republicans don't want Abbott to back down.
00:13:48.000And specifically, they want Biden to federalize the National Guard.
00:13:54.000And under Title 10, the federal government at any time can go in
00:14:00.000And effectively take over the National Guard of a given state and force the National Guard to answer to the President and the Secretary of Defense.
00:14:12.000That's what happened, I think, at Little Rock, Arkansas.
00:14:16.000During the Civil Rights era and so this is an idea that's being floated by the Democrats, although the administration has not embraced that yet.
00:14:25.000But he's given a deadline for Greg Abbott that he has to allow the feds in within a certain amount of time.
00:14:32.000We don't know what happens after that.
00:15:18.000We'll also be talking tonight about the Immigration Bill, Comprehensive Immigration Reform, which is being negotiated in the Senate right now.
00:15:27.000As part of these appropriations bills, we've been talking about this saga for months.
00:15:33.000Kind of took a big break when the war in Gaza broke out and we've been covering all the different parts of that conflict.
00:15:42.000But we've really been covering this story now for three or maybe four months.
00:15:49.000And as part of the ongoing appropriations battle to pass
00:15:54.000There's a package being negotiated in the Senate which will trade a final Ukraine funding bill with over $100 billion for border security.
00:16:08.000And they apparently were about to come to an agreement until Trump shut it down.
00:16:13.000They say that Donald Trump has intervened.
00:16:17.000And privately dissuaded lawmakers from passing this Ukraine immigration deal, which was brokered by Mitch McConnell.
00:16:27.000And they're blaming Trump for this and they're mad and they're saying that Trump only shut it down because Trump doesn't want Biden to have a victory on the border or maybe doesn't even want Biden to fix it before the election because he wants to run on fixing it.
00:16:48.000That to me sounds like not the real reason.
00:16:52.000Sounds like it's the same game they always play with immigration reform which is
00:16:57.000They always want to sell us, sell the Republican base out by saying they're going to do something, acting like they're doing something, but never really doing anything.
00:17:07.000That's always the story with these immigration deals.
00:17:11.000So we'll talk a little bit about that as well.
00:17:14.000Should be a pretty good show, although honestly kind of a slow week.
00:17:31.000I almost wish that DeSantis did better, because then it would be more fun for me.
00:17:36.000I was thinking, and this was kind of like part of my strategy for this year, I was like, we're gonna have all these primary races, it's gonna be so much content, and my show's gonna blow up,
00:19:23.000Like, this scenario or crisis has been metastasizing for three or four days now, almost a full week.
00:19:33.000And if you go to any of the major American outlets, they're not covering it.
00:19:37.000I mean Fox News is covering it, but New York Times is not covering it.
00:19:42.000And a lot of the other big outlets, there's just no mention of it at all.
00:19:49.000And if you Google some of the key words, if you Google like Biden and Abbott and you go to the front page of some of the bigger papers, they're just not talking about it at all.
00:19:59.000Which almost leads me to believe that maybe it could be real.
00:20:04.000Because I kind of go by these funny heuristics.
00:20:06.000It's like, if Nikki Haley supports it, it's probably fake.
00:22:06.000And maybe you remember the details, maybe not.
00:22:09.000But basically there was this huge terrorist attack in Iran.
00:22:13.000Obviously Israel did it because Israel wants us to bomb Iran.
00:22:17.000And so they need Iran to attack them first in order to get us to attack Iran.
00:22:24.000So, Israel's fingerprints were all over this thing, and like I just said, in the immediate aftermath, the United States comes out with this ridiculous story and says, it was ISIS.
00:22:36.000Which it seems like whenever we need somebody to do something in the Middle East, as we need to blame somebody for something, it's always ISIS.
00:22:47.000If we need something done, we hire ISIS.
00:22:50.000If we need a scapegoat, we blame ISIS.
00:22:54.000If we're trying to take somebody out, we fund and give weapons to ISIS.
00:23:01.000And if we need to do something in the United States, we have ISIS do something here.
00:23:05.000So ISIS just really serves at the pleasure of the Israeli Prime Minister and the American President.
00:23:14.000And then today, it didn't get a lot of coverage, but there was a story that says that U.S.
00:23:20.000intelligence warned Iran about this terrorist attack before it happened.
00:23:27.000So apparently, the attack happened on January 3rd, I think.
00:23:31.000It says that apparently before the attack, like a day before the attack, the United States warned Iran and said, ISIS is about to attack you.
00:23:43.000And there's no other details besides that.
00:23:46.000It was some anonymous intelligence source.
00:23:48.000I think they told the Wall Street Journal.
00:23:51.000But I saw that story and I was thinking to myself, so how did the United States know about that?
00:23:58.000We don't have any troops in Afghanistan anymore.
00:24:36.000And if you want to know more about that, you could go through my Rumble channel.
00:24:40.000I've done a few shows about this, about the tension with Iran and Pakistan and the terrorist attack.
00:24:47.000But this is just more evidence that this was Israel, because is it more likely that the United States would have prior knowledge of a covert action by Israel or a terrorist attack by an ISIS affiliate from Afghanistan?
00:25:01.000I think it's more likely that it's the former.
00:25:04.000And, by the way, the only reason it would seem that the United States would warn Iran that a terror attack were imminent is because they wanted Iran to be able to mitigate the damage so that Iran would not be forced to retaliate against Israel.
00:25:22.000If the United States gave Iran prior warning, one, that would soften the blow diplomatically,
00:25:30.000And two, it would diminish the pressure for Iran to retaliate.
00:25:34.000If Iran just gets blown up out of nowhere, maybe missiles start flying, maybe airstrikes go off, maybe because it's a very sensitive site, it's a very sensitive day, it was a high casualty attack, and so if that happened without any warning,
00:25:51.000Maybe the missiles start flying the day, minutes after the attack.
00:25:56.000But if the United States warns them beforehand and says, it's ISIS, ISIS is about to attack, then it prepares them
00:26:06.000And again, it lessens the pressure for them to go all out right away and respond, which of course would be playing into Israel's hands, which ironically is against the wishes of the United States.
00:26:19.000The United States and Iran share an interest because we don't want to go to war with each other, it's Israel pitting us against each other.
00:26:28.000And that's precisely how they would do it, is with some provocative action like that.
00:26:33.000So the latest evidence that just, and this just came out today, just reported earlier today, that the United States warned Iran before they got attacked, it sounds like the United States was trying to thwart Israel's plans to provoke Iran into attacking them with that warning.
00:26:55.000So, I just want to throw that out there.
00:26:57.000Again, not really worth doing a whole show about, but it is relevant and it is new evidence.
00:27:07.000I want to get into our big featured story for today.
00:27:11.000And we're following up on a story that I covered yesterday, which is this potential constitutional clash or constitutional crisis over the border in Texas.
00:27:23.000And we went over the whole thing yesterday, and I'll bring you up to speed and give you the background very quickly.
00:27:31.000So obviously the border is wide open ever since Biden took office.
00:27:36.000And I say this, it's not an exaggeration, the border is literally open.
00:27:45.000And don't take my word for it, you can just look up the statistics from FAIR, Federation for American Immigration Reform, you can look up the DHS statistics.
00:27:57.000Every month since he took office breaks records in succession.
00:28:04.000We have never had more illegal border crossings measured by apprehensions or gotaways than ever before in literally in the history of the United States.
00:28:39.000And as I pointed out yesterday, and I covered the entire Trump administration, Donald Trump did, contrary to what some people believe, he did build
00:28:51.000It didn't exist before, and he implemented that.
00:28:54.000It took him a long time, granted, right up until 2020.
00:29:06.000As late as spring 2019, there were record high border crossings during the Trump administration, just like we're seeing now.
00:29:14.000The records now break the record set during the Trump administration, but he was experiencing 20-year highs in border crossings as late as spring 2019, three years into his first term.
00:29:28.000But by 2020, they did build an effective regime, and we talked about it.
00:29:33.000They used some of the provisions during COVID to turn people away at the border, North and South, as well as legal immigrants.
00:29:43.000They forced Mexico to control their southern border, because the immigration that was coming to the United States during that time was coming from the Northern Triangle countries, which are Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador.
00:29:57.000And they were traveling through Mexico's southern border to get to our southern border.
00:30:02.000So he had Mexico control their southern border.
00:30:06.000He also negotiated something where the illegal immigrants would remain on the Mexican side of the border while we processed asylum requests.
00:30:15.000And he was actively building new barrier on the southern border when he left office.
00:31:21.000If foreign nationals see a signal from Congress or from the White House that they might not enforce immigration laws, more of them start to show up.
00:31:45.000They're saying it's going to be six or eight million illegal aliens just in Biden's first term.
00:31:52.000Just in four years when all is said and done.
00:31:55.000So lately, some of the Republican governors are putting pressure on Texas that the Texas state authorities have to go in and control the border.
00:32:07.000If the federal government is letting them in, and we've seen the effects of this, and we've covered over the past several months, it's overwhelming everybody.
00:32:17.000Not just the border states, not just the cities close to the border, but New York City, Chicago, very far north.
00:32:26.000So all the governors are putting pressure on the border states for them to send the State Guard or the National Guard to go to the border and try to put up some kind of barrier or use their personnel to keep illegals out.
00:32:49.000The federal government has jurisdiction over immigration and the border, according to the Constitution.
00:32:57.000So legally, if the federal government opens the border, technically there's really nothing the states can do because of the Supremacy Clause.
00:33:05.000The federal government, this is their jurisdiction, they can control the border.
00:33:21.000And the Texas State and National Guard simply does not have the personnel to control the border.
00:33:28.000They don't have the kind of personnel that the Department of Homeland Security or the U.S.
00:33:32.000military has, which they might use, hypothetically, to control the border.
00:33:39.000So the thing is about this, which people need to understand,
00:33:44.000Is that the only way you control the border is you get the federal government to do it.
00:33:48.000It's the federal government's job, and they have the resources.
00:33:53.000And if the federal government doesn't want to enforce the border, there's really nothing anyone can do about it, not legally, and they literally don't have the resources to do it.
00:34:03.000So the idea that Texas is going to shut down the border, again, that's outside their jurisdiction, so they just can't.
00:34:13.000And even if they wanted to, they just simply wouldn't have enough people because it's a very large border.
00:34:18.000We're talking about 250,000 crossings per month.
00:34:24.000In the winter, in the spring, and in the fall, it's more.
00:34:28.000It's like 230,000 per month in the winter.
00:34:44.000So there just isn't the personnel in the State Guard that are able to do that, unfortunately.
00:34:51.000So anyway, late last year the Texas Governor Greg Abbott began to do something about the border and he sent the National Guard to the border to construct floating barriers in the Rio Grande River and to build barbed wire in the river and in some of these border crossings where there's a lot of illegals as well.
00:35:15.000The Biden administration came in and just started destroying all this stuff.
00:35:19.000They started removing or breaking apart the barbed wire and the flotational devices that they put up there.
00:35:29.000So Texas sued the Biden administration and said that they're destroying Texas state property.
00:35:36.000The lower court defended the Biden administration, the appeals court said that the Texas government's correct, and then the Supreme Court ruled just a few days ago in a 6-3 decision
00:35:50.000In favor of actually I think it was was it I think it was 5-4 actually in favor of the Biden administration and effectively the Supreme Court said that yes federal authorities can come in and this was this again this started in October so this has taken place over three months
00:36:09.000The Supreme Court has finally adjudicated and they've made the decision that yes, the federal authorities can come in and destroy the barbed wire that the Texas state government is setting up.
00:36:34.000That federal authorities can destroy the barbed wire, but Texas state authorities are building more wire and they're not permitting federal authorities to enter into specifically one of these places, it's called Shelby Park, to destroy the barbed wire.
00:36:52.000But like I said last night, it may not even necessarily be a constitutional crisis because it seems that what the Texas authorities are arguing
00:37:02.000It seems like they're not saying that they're defying the Supreme Court.
00:37:06.000Rather, they're interpreting the Supreme Court's decision a different way.
00:37:12.000And so the Supreme Court said that the federal authorities can destroy it, and the state authorities are saying, well, that doesn't stop us from building more of it, and we don't necessarily need to give access to the barbed wire.
00:37:27.000That we don't need to let the federal authorities come into the park so that they can destroy it.
00:37:32.000Because the Supreme Court technically didn't say that.
00:37:35.000It technically didn't say you have to let them come in and destroy all of it and you can't build more of it.
00:37:45.000So it would seem that maybe this is just
00:37:49.000An ambiguous ruling and maybe there's just a different interpretation on the Texas side.
00:37:55.000And the only reason I say that is because in the event that the Supreme Court maybe clarifies the decision or something like that, maybe Texas backs down completely.
00:38:06.000Or in the event that the federal government federalizes the National Guard, will the state of Texas try to resist that?
00:38:18.000And the point I'm making here is that it would seem that the Texas authorities are complying with the law to the best of their ability.
00:38:29.000So in any case, that was the big news is that the Supreme Court said that yes, the federal authorities can come in and destroy the barbed wire.
00:38:36.000What has set up this clash is that now, as I just said, the Texas authorities have said that they're going to keep building the barbed wire.
00:38:44.000And they're not going to let the federal authorities come in and destroy it.
00:38:49.000And now, 25 Republican governors, which is half of the American states, have voiced their support for Greg Abbott and said variously that they would send their own National Guard to the border to assist him, or they've just said that he shouldn't back down, they've vocally supported him.
00:39:32.000From the Texas House to former President Donald Trump, Republicans across the country are rallying behind Governor Greg Abbott's legal standoff with the federal government at the southern border, intensifying concerns about a constitutional crisis amid an ongoing dispute with the Biden administration.
00:39:50.000At issue is concertina wire that the Texas National Guard has been using as a barrier between the Rio Grande River and Shelby Park, a 47-acre area in Eagle Pass.
00:40:02.000In a 5-4 decision earlier this week, the U.S.
00:40:06.000Supreme Court sided with the Biden administration when it vacated a lower court's ruling that prevented Border Patrol agents from cutting the wire to apprehend people who had crossed the river.
00:40:18.000On Wednesday, and as the Texas National Guard and state troopers continued to roll out the wire and prevent federal agents from accessing the park, Abbott continued to publicly challenge the ruling and hold the line.
00:40:32.000He declared that Texas was under an invasion.
00:40:36.000Giving the state the constitutional right to defend itself and claim that President Joe Biden's practice of paroling migrants into the country amounted to a refusal to enforce current immigration laws.
00:40:49.000Abbott's statement was quickly condemned by some legal scholars who said it was blatantly unconstitutional and amounted to a usurping of the federal government.
00:40:58.000Trump chimed in on Thursday afternoon on his TrueSocial platform and encouraged other states to deploy their National Guards to Texas.
00:41:06.000On Thursday, all but one Republican governor, Phil Scott of Vermont, had publicly supported Abbott's move.
00:41:13.000The Republican Governors Association said in a statement on Thursday that they back Abbott's methods in utilizing every tool and strategy, including razor wire fences, to secure the border.
00:41:25.000Dozens of other elected Republicans similarly expressed their support, including U.S.
00:41:30.000House Speaker Mike Johnson of Louisiana and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas.
00:41:36.000So I basically called this yesterday, and I floated the idea.
00:41:41.000I said, what would happen if the 25 Republican states all joined together and resisted the federal government?
00:41:53.000That is being posed by this crisis right now.
00:41:56.000Although I continue to believe, I'm going to reiterate what I said last night, I don't think this is going to be the definitive challenge or even a real challenge to the federal government.
00:42:09.000I think that a lot of this is for show.
00:42:13.000So much of what is happening with the border is just politics.
00:42:34.000A lot of people don't realize this, but Republicans have a very high tolerance for illegal immigration because they represent a lot of the interests that benefit from illegal immigration, like agriculture.
00:42:52.000So many of the illegal immigrants that come in, one of the biggest industries they work in is agriculture.
00:43:01.000And not just in Texas, but throughout the country.
00:43:04.000And a lot of these big farmers, they benefit immensely from hiring so-called undocumented illegal aliens, because they don't have to pay them a minimum wage, and they don't have to pay them all the other benefits, they don't have to pay them like American workers.
00:43:22.000And so there are, like for example in Texas, there's a giant colony.
00:43:27.000There's like a whole city of illegal immigrants that was just recently discovered.
00:43:33.000And they're flying helicopters over it.
00:43:35.000And it's literally like a giant tent city, it's really trailer parks, of illegal aliens.
00:43:44.000And the developer that owns that neighborhood is paying off some of these rhinos in the Republican government in Texas.
00:43:53.000So they actually have a very high tolerance for this kind of stuff.
00:44:11.000This is why Donald Trump is such a wrecking ball against the GOP establishment.
00:44:17.000If you recall, that is why they hated him from the beginning.
00:44:20.000Because when Trump announced he was running in July or June 2015, the first thing he said was, when Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.
00:44:34.000Initially, that was his signature proposal.
00:44:37.000And that singularly may be one of the reasons why Republicans hated him because although Republicans have talked about closing the border for 40 years, they never do.
00:45:37.000So when Trump comes in and changes the race and makes it a race about immigration rather than healthcare, or immigration rather than a number of other stupid things, that is what made Trump popular.
00:45:51.000In fact, that's what made him the nominee from the very beginning.
00:45:56.000So when it comes to this crisis, back to what's happening in Texas, Greg Abbott is under pressure from his base, he's under pressure from other Republicans to do this.
00:46:06.000It's not really that he wants to do it.
00:46:11.000This little stand that they're taking, this is not the Alamo.
00:46:16.000And mark my words, if there is any real clash with the federal government, they will back down.
00:46:23.000And when they back down, not if, but when they back down, they will not be able to close the border.
00:46:30.000The state authorities do not have the resources.
00:46:34.000In the event of some real constitutional crisis, Joe Biden could simply federalize the National Guard and tell them to destroy their own wire and tell them to destroy their own fortifications.
00:46:48.000And if Greg Abbott mobilizes state troopers, there just wouldn't be enough of them.
00:46:56.000So, the state of Texas is not going to stop these people from coming in.
00:47:00.000They build barbed wire over here, and you know what happens?
00:47:03.000The illegals start coming in over there.
00:47:05.000Because the border on the Texas side is 1,000 miles long.
00:47:10.000It's 2,000 miles in total, and Texas is roughly 1,000.
00:47:14.000So, the National Guard can go and build some barbed wire over there, the illegals just start coming in on the other side.
00:47:23.000And they could go and build barbed wire over there and then Joe Biden is going to federalize the National Guard and make the people that built it destroy it.
00:47:31.000And there'll be even fewer state troopers in National Guard.
00:49:12.000They were planning something similar for January 6th.
00:49:15.000Not the riot, but they were planning on... I forget exactly what they were going to do, but they were going to go and say... I don't know, that they protested.
00:50:05.000And I think that's what they're doing here.
00:50:07.000Because the border is wide open, and what has been happening in Congress is that our own Republican Party will not ask the Democrats for money.
00:50:20.000If you've been paying attention, that's the other thing that's been going on in the background for the past four months.
00:50:25.000That's why Kevin McCarthy is no longer the Speaker of the House.
00:50:30.000Because between 5 and 20 Republican members of the Freedom Caucus said, we will not fund the federal government
00:52:15.000So that's my take on this current situation.
00:52:21.000And like I said, what can always happen, and this is what the Biden administration is being pressured to do, is to simply take control of the National Guard.
00:52:31.000Now that's when it becomes a constitutional crisis.
00:52:34.000That is what would turn it into a crisis.
00:52:37.000Right now, Greg Abbott has this illusion of control that he can defy the Supreme Court with the National Guard.
00:52:45.000Of course, Joe Biden could come in and take control of the National Guard.
00:52:49.000Now, if there is some order that the National Guard should disobey the President, now you're talking about a constitutional crisis.
00:54:12.000They are going to play this up so that they can curry favor with the base, with the voters, and say, hey, look at us, we're doing something about immigration even though we're really not.
00:54:22.000But along the way, they are putting that idea in the minds of Republicans.
00:54:27.000Hey, while we can't win a federal election, but you know what we do have?
00:54:32.00025 governors across the country, from Idaho to Florida.
00:54:37.000And so, an idea has just been born, unbeknownst to stupid, short-sighted Republican legislators and state officials, unbeknownst to them, an idea has just metastasized in the consciousness of conservatives in America.
00:54:54.000They look at the map of the 25 states lit up in red that support Texas and saying, hey,
00:55:02.000We're all going to defy the federal government.
00:55:05.000This is a very powerful idea and I think just having that idea appear in the consciousness and for people to kind of go there and go down that path, that to me is the more interesting proposition because like I said last night and I've been saying this for a long time,
00:55:26.000One of the short-term political realities is that Republicans are losing any semblance of competitiveness on the national level.
00:55:35.000There was a time when Republicans could be competitive in every single state.
00:55:40.000In 1984, Reagan won every state other than Minnesota.
00:55:44.000And he argues he even won Minnesota as well.
00:56:42.000And not a blue state like the old Democrats, a blue state like Stacey Abrams Democrats.
00:56:50.000And so, within 10 or 15 years, we may be looking at a situation where Republicans can't win the presidency, can't win the Senate, can't win the House.
00:57:00.000And if they can't win any of those, then you can say goodbye to the Supreme Court as well, and the federal judges, and the federal bureaucracy.
00:57:08.000And now we're talking about permanent Democrat control, which means they will be able to enforce a lot of things on us.
00:57:16.000And there goes the Constitution with that.
00:57:20.000And so people say, well, what happens when these elections become unwinnable?
00:57:25.000If we live in a multiracial society, and our elections are a racial headcount, where we count all the non-white people, they all vote for Democrats, we count all the white people, they vote for Republicans, and the Democrats just win over and over, and they appoint all the judges, and they appoint the Supreme Court justices, and they reinterpret the first, second, fourth amendments, you know, what do we do?
00:57:50.000This is the powerful idea, is that we may not be able to win the federal government, but we could win state, we could win super majorities.
00:57:59.000In state legislatures, we could win governorships in 20 or 25 states.
00:58:05.000And if we could do that, and if they all come together, then they can resist the federal government.
00:58:11.000If the Supreme Court tries to take away the First or Second Amendment, I mean, maybe they couldn't fight one state, but could they fight, or rather, maybe they could fight one state.
00:58:23.000Could the federal government survive a clash with a coalition of 25 Republican states that work together and the people are behind this idea and they're with it?
00:58:36.000I mean, theoretically, if the military fought them, the military could probably kill all of us.
00:58:42.000But could America survive such a conflict?
00:58:48.000And so, there would have to be some kind of diplomacy.
00:58:50.000Maybe that would be a political solution.
00:58:53.000So to me that's, and I said this yesterday, that is the idea that this little crisis is a sort of prefigures and this is very important because this idea is now in the minds of the masses and people are looking at that map and now they're thinking about secession.
00:59:11.000They're thinking about not even necessarily like oh you know Texas is going to leave the union but what if 25 states get together
00:59:19.000And they say, we're not going to do that.
00:59:20.000You know, if the Supreme Court says this, and it's suicidal, we're not going to do it.
00:59:26.000And it's very important because it's specific, because this is going to happen a lot.
00:59:32.000In 50 years, when it's a Democrat majority, and all the, you know, Clarence Thomas is dead, and a lot of these other ones are dead, and it's nine Sonia Sotomayors on the Supreme Court, eventually they're going to say, hey, the Supreme Court decided you're going to give us all your guns.
00:59:53.000The Supreme Court decided hate speech is no longer free speech.
00:59:57.000And we're going to need 25 Republican states to say, yeah, no, we're not enforcing.
01:00:23.000But in the future, that may be the way that we fight back.
01:00:27.000And when you factor in this calamity that's coming, figure that the United States is becoming relatively less powerful in the world.
01:00:35.000We do have this debt crisis, which will happen eventually, deeply related to the declining American power.
01:00:43.000There's gonna be, I think, very soon in the United States,
01:00:48.000A period or an event that will be calamitous in nature.
01:00:53.000Meaning of like a very great catastrophe.
01:00:55.000Several things happening simultaneously.
01:00:58.000Something that might really revise how America works.
01:01:02.000And this may coincide with this kind of a conflict.
01:01:07.000And I'm talking about, you know, the debt's 30 trillion, the interest is going up, we're heading towards a war with China, and the world is on fire, the immigration is bankrupting a lot of the public services in the different states, there's like crime and race riots and all these things.
01:01:29.000And it would seem that they're going to come to a head at the same time that there may be some clash between federal jurisdiction and state jurisdiction.
01:01:37.000And I'm trying to put in your mind, we don't have a roadmap, we're in uncharted territory here, but I'm trying to put in your mind kind of an idea of what this is going to look like and what a victory might look like for us when we would have the opportunity to revise the current order.
01:01:58.000And that opportunity will arise when the calamity happens and we will be able to take advantage of it with and by having power in state governments and in other ways.
01:02:55.000I mean, anybody that's a little bit perceptive can see that this is where things are headed.
01:03:00.000And, you know, Mark Milley isn't 100% wrong.
01:03:04.000I know a lot of people are going to hate me saying that.
01:03:06.000When Mark Milley says he studies the white nationalists and they're the enemy, you sort of understand where he's coming from.
01:03:13.000Because if you want to keep America together, well, it is a national security crisis that a large part of the country, these middle American radicals, nativists, whatever you want to call them, they are in a way seceding from the country.
01:03:30.000And it does pose a threat to stability.
01:03:33.000It just so happens that, you know, maybe we don't really want, like, stability for what?
01:03:39.000Like, maybe we need a little instability to revise how things work in the country.
01:03:45.000Because, I mean, they're not hearing us through the democratic process.
01:03:50.000We tried it through Trump, and we're trying it again through Trump, and
01:03:55.000You know, people tried to use Twitter, and they shut us up, and shut us down, and they did the mail-in ballots, and all the rest, and then people start to say, okay, well, we need to protect our rights, eventually.
01:11:03.000It's not like half the media is one way and half is the other it's like no all of the media is biased in exactly the same way which tells you something and
01:11:14.000And I realized we're never going to be able to elect the right people and those elected people are not going to be able to do the right thing because the media is an obstacle.
01:12:38.000Okay, so it's about opinion-making of the voters that takes place when they interface with mass media, paid for by large firms, owned and controlled by BlackRock and Vanguard.
01:12:52.000And you can keep working your way up, but that's kind of how you get there, and you think about
01:12:58.000A lot of things, but that was maybe my first indication that things were not as they seem.
01:13:07.000Then I saw that map of how the different demographics vote.
01:13:12.000Then a big red pill was thinking about dying.
01:13:14.000That's really when I became a full Catholic.
01:13:19.000I went away to college and I remember staring outside the window and thinking everyone I love is going to die and I will too and you know that was very troubling to me because I really thought about that for the first time we don't really think about that but late at night try it you know when you're when you're alone in bed at night with the lights out try thinking about the fact that you won't be alive that you're gonna die but like really think about it everyone kind of knows that but not really
01:13:50.000But think about the fact that all you have ever known is being alive.
01:14:33.000And so those were kind of the big three I guess and I had a number of other kind of realizations and I can and I remember exactly where I was and what I saw and how I thought it through and how I got here.
01:16:01.000We were getting ready for the conference and I remember somebody came up to me and they're like, yo, this freshman is saying that the Holocaust never happened.
01:17:35.000The Arabs fought four wars of aggression against the Israelis.
01:17:39.000And, you know, everyone's holding Israel to a double standard, and they're a beacon of Western values and a sea of barbarism.
01:17:48.000Like, they just keep getting attacked by the Arabs, and the Arabs reject every peace proposal, which is all the Israeli propaganda, because I have been watching PragerU and all that shit.
01:17:58.000And he was like, no, no, that's not what happened with the Oslo Accords.
01:21:02.000I mean he was like He was like the OG groiper He was like groiper zero and he was a total like certified genius like he got a 36 on his ACT and you know, I don't want to dox him but the guy's like a total legend, so Anyway
01:21:24.000So yeah, he really woke me up on a lot of that stuff.
01:21:29.000The funny thing is though, I know a lot of people like that in my life and I feel like I'm smarter than them.
01:21:34.000Like, I always felt like I was smarter than him.
01:21:37.000Even though he, he got a, I got a 34 on my ACT.
01:21:40.000Even though he got a better score than me and stuff, I still always felt like I'm smarter.
01:21:44.000I just feel like I'm more of like a maverick personality type.
01:21:48.000Some of these guys are more like they go to school and they write their little fucking essays, and I feel like because I'm more of a maverick,
01:21:57.000I sell myself short, but I feel like I was smarter than that guy.
01:22:01.000But... Well, eventually we had a big falling out over a board game.
01:22:04.000That was one of the last times we ever spoke.
01:22:07.000We were playing the 1960 Kennedy vs. Nixon board game, and we had a huge fight.
01:22:15.000We got in a huge fight about the game because, like,
01:22:21.000I don't know like I realized we were playing it wrong and like you know how that goes when you don't like understand the rules so you're like oh actually we should be playing this way and it benefits you and he's like well in that case then you know I get to undo this and it was one of those things and we got in like a screaming match and I like stormed out of his house and
01:22:45.000He was like I want to punch you in the face right now, I want to beat the shit out of you right now And Yeah, and then but you know what it is I honestly I have to work on this I'm kind of like an abusive person I Really I have to work on that because I really have a way of just like
01:23:11.000I really know how to antagonize people.
01:23:14.000I can really get under people's skin, and I love to do it, and I just do it too much, and then people hate me.
01:23:20.000And it really is that, in a lot of cases, it's really that simple.
01:23:25.000You see a lot of people that go their separate ways when it comes to me, and a lot of times I'm like, why did they do that?
01:23:32.000But a lot of times I feel like it might just be because I make fun of them too much.
01:23:41.000I feel like it's maybe I don't want to psychoanalyze myself, but as I'm not gonna go there, but but yeah, I was Yeah, maybe I was a little abusive.
01:23:52.000I was a little mean I would bully this guy a little bit and I Remember one time we got in a fight on Twitter and I was just like just really ripping him that he was
01:24:03.000He was pressed, and I was just really putting the screws in, just really, you know.
01:24:09.000You know when you really got somebody, you know when you're really breaking somebody's balls, and they're just mad as fuck, and you just keep, you know, you keep pushing, and that was it.
01:24:35.000Coupled with the fact that a lot of people resent me because I'm a genius.
01:24:39.000That's the other thing is you can't pick on people when you're low-key better than them Because it's bad for people's ego everyone's ego everyone kind of needs to think that they're better than you and if you kind of shatter that if you if you kind of like I
01:24:57.000If you just keep attacking somebody's ego like their true source of pride, and you don't kind of let them save face, maybe that's not the best way to say it, but you get what I mean, people then really hate you.
01:25:13.000If you kind of make it impossible for their ego to live next to yours, they will just absolutely want to kill you.
01:25:20.000I feel like that's what I did cuz I just kept calling this guy stupid and for smart people you don't want to be called stupid So I was just like years I would just point out all spelling mistakes and just anytime he made an error I would just be like you're a fucking idiot.
01:31:53.000Because I think that if you are an artist, and you're high in openness, I think that you can kind of play around with that a little bit more.
01:32:26.000You know or people that are I mean that's not something that I would go for but I think that I don't think that there I mean I wouldn't say that there's nothing necessarily wrong with it because there kind of is I think that men should be masculine and I definitely think that there there is a fine line but
01:32:54.000You know, things that are a little edgy.
01:32:56.000I mean, I'm not the most, I'm not like a trad, traditionalist type.
01:33:01.000I think that, you know, people should be able to push the boundaries a little bit.
01:33:05.000It's just, there need to be boundaries.
01:33:07.000You can't push boundaries if there's no boundaries.
01:33:10.000So, I don't necessarily think it's the worst thing.
01:33:13.000I'm not one of these, you know, macho people that says, oh, if you're not wearing gym shoes and basketball shorts, you're a faggot!
01:33:22.000Like, you know, I think that... I think that people should be able to be creative and express themselves.
01:33:31.000And they're gonna be liberal people and it turns out that the more liberal people
01:33:37.000I mean they are the ones that drive things forward even if they're eccentric or they're a little bit out there so so yeah I mean that's not necessarily my personality but I think that
01:34:32.000I think that's because if you it's one thing If a guy is a little more feminine, it's another thing if a guy like wants to be a woman That's to me.
01:34:43.000That's totally different because some guys are more masculine and some are more feminine That is a bit of a spectrum
01:34:51.000But what I think is disgusting is when men reject their maleness.
01:35:01.000And, you know, you can tell with some of these transgenders or some of these people that are kind of on the cusp, it's like, on some level, they really want to be women.
01:35:12.000I'm talking about these guys that, like, look up to women.
01:35:24.000And I think there's a big difference between...
01:35:29.000Like a TikTok e-boy that paints his nails or, you know, if you're in a punk band and you paint your nails black or something like that, you know what I mean?
01:35:40.000Versus like someone who really identifies with women.
01:35:46.000And men that identify with women, I just hate that.
01:36:11.000So I resent any kind of cross-dressing and any kind of gender bend or gender emulation, but...
01:36:22.000You know guys that kind of lean more into a feminine thing it's again I don't think that's necessarily wrong as long as it's not like they want to be women or it's cross-dressing or you know wearing a dress or shit like that to me because that just uh I see that I'm just like yeah no you know like when um who is the guy in Nirvana what's his name Kurt Cobain when Kurt Cobain would wear dresses it's like yeah like that you're kind of just a faggot for that you know what I mean
01:36:52.000Like, Michael Jackson was very feminine, but he was a guy.
01:36:57.000You know, he was a very feminine man, but he was a man, and he wanted to be a man.
01:37:07.000And to me, that's totally different than, like, a Kurt Cobain who's wearing a dress.
01:37:10.000It's like, you know, what, do you want to be a woman?
01:37:14.000That kind of thing, that's to me where there's a fine line.
01:37:18.000And you find TikTok Eboys and punk and Prince and Michael Jackson on one side of it and on the other side of it you find Dylan Mulvaney and Kurt Cobain and Kid Cudi and all that stuff.
01:38:11.000There's actually nothing really virtuous about that.
01:38:20.000You know, people think like, oh, I'm the way, you know, I'm a big guy and I'm the way that, you know... I'm the expected, predictable, conformist thing that everybody wants and
01:38:40.000You know, I don't think I think for a lot and by the way, I think for a lot of people That's just a big cope.
01:38:45.000I feel like it's a lot of like dweebs that are like that.
01:38:48.000I feel like it's aspirational a lot of dweebs You know, I think about like John Doyle as a perfect example that guy's a fucking dweeb He's a fucking nerd, you know, and so am I okay fine I mean, you know if we could say he is
01:39:04.000I mean we're like the same size or same height and we're both like politics nerds or whatever.
01:39:11.000I mean I think I'm cool or I think I'm more like a maverick.
01:39:14.000I think he's really like a true dweeb but...
01:39:18.000But me, I'm not really trying to be anything, I'm just me.
01:39:22.000You know, and that's why people call me all kinds of names.
01:39:25.000But with him, when he's like, oh I gotta be wearing a nice suit, and I gotta have my bourbon and my cigarettes, cause that's what guys do.
01:39:32.000It's like, you're, you're like, it's an affect.
01:39:37.000Because you want to be perceived a certain way.
01:39:40.000And to me, there's nothing gayer than acting a certain way because you want people to think you're cool.
01:39:48.000I know that sounds really basic, but this, uh...
01:39:53.000You know, this like, I gotta grow a beard and I gotta have my scotch and cigar because that's what a guy does and you know, no respectable man is a dog.
01:40:32.000That's the thing that I loved about Ye.
01:40:34.000You know, Ye, he would say, cause that's why me and him, we were really like on the same page, cause he's also like a freak in a certain way.
01:40:42.000And, uh, he was, he would say about those boots, those Balenciaga boots.
01:40:47.000He's like, I just love these boots cause they're so, they're masculine, but they're feminine too.
01:40:53.000You know, but, and he would look at these kinds of things and he, he's obviously so into fashion.
01:40:59.000You know, and any guys guy would say, Oh, I wear a suit and tie like in the fifties.
01:41:15.000He's a true creative and a true visionary and I thought that was so admirable to me.
01:41:21.000That was the main thing I was blown away by is the just like boundless creativity and inspired by everything.
01:41:29.000Like clearly his brain is just like a prism.
01:41:34.000Stuff goes in and you know he just has his way of looking at things.
01:41:39.000And he would have to be that to be able to be, and I'm not just glazing here, I'm just saying that is why I have so much affinity for him as a guy.
01:41:48.000It's because I look at him, and he's not trying to be that.
01:43:09.000And to me, like I really identify with that and I find that to be so inspirational and I compare that to somebody like Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles.
01:43:19.000And these guys, they're like, we're gonna do a show.
01:45:15.000I love these people that can create their own world, you know, like George Lucas or Trump or Kanye.
01:45:22.000They create their own world with their own vision and they invite us to come and be a part of it and to come and enjoy that.
01:45:33.000And, you know, that's really what the world is, is there are people that can do that, and there are people that participate in it, and then there are haters.
01:45:41.000Then there are fucking unoriginal, nothing haters, that anytime somebody tries to cast their vision and bring people in to enjoy it, they say, heh heh, that's stupid, heh heh, that's fucking dumb, and that, well, that's, well, that looks silly.
01:45:57.000And it's like, those people can fucking die.
01:46:00.000And they would prefer that everybody just, like, do only predictable, only familiar things, only palatable, digestible things.
01:46:11.000For the lowest common denominator appealing to the basest prejudices.
01:46:16.000And I just hate that, so... That's like I said, like Michael Knowles comes up at the show, I'm gonna start a cigar company!
01:46:45.000So yeah, so I think that, you know, and that is how the right, by the way, that is how the right is going to win.
01:46:51.000The right is not going to win by saying, we're the past, we're the black and white, old-timey, you know, I especially hate that about boomers.
01:47:01.000Like, I think, and listen, I love my parents, but my parents are the perfect, like,
01:47:08.000When I started getting into politics and they were pitching me their ideas of what I should do, it was all based on, like, boomer, like, television tropes.
01:47:19.000You know, they wanna... Every boomer, when you suggest anything to a boomer, they're like, what if we made it like an 80s rock band?
01:47:26.000What if we made it like the Johnny Carson Show?
01:47:28.000You know, and television brain, LCD boomers,
01:47:33.000It's like that's the only kind of cultural language that they're able to speak and understand.
01:47:39.000When they see a guy like, and this is like a little bit of a disagreement that I would have with a guy like Jared Taylor, when they see a guy like Kanye, they're like, oh well he's just a negro entertainer, that's just like rap.
01:47:51.000It's like, but you can't just dismiss everything that maybe isn't familiar or maybe isn't your preferred thing as just, oh well that's just that.
01:48:04.000You know, maybe that person's doing something interesting, even if it's not your cup of tea or, you know, they're black or whatever.
01:48:14.000Maybe you actually have to engage with it a little bit.
01:48:18.000You kind of need a little openness, a little curiosity.
01:48:22.000And and and that comes basically from humility this recognition of like hey, we're all human beings and Maybe everybody may have something interesting to say or something to offer the world and you know so But whatever
01:48:43.000Yeah, that's like John Doyle's intro is like what a boomer.
01:48:48.000Let's do a show and we got an old-timey card you could wear like a fedora like the Rat Pack and you could do this and that and oh what a great idea!
01:49:45.000The final hand gesture Destiny used in the Crossing of Swords sequence was like an umpire calling a runner safe, as if to indicate that the Crossing of Swords would not happen.
01:54:57.000Bobby Fischer sent $150, I like Englund's take on the Texas cripple.
01:55:02.000It really does seem like a slapstick comedy bit as Biden takes down the razor wire, but the cripple's going to stand firm and put it right back up for Biden to again take down.
01:55:11.000If this were a real showdown with the feds, he'd have declared, let's see them enforce it, and promised to prevent removal of the barbed wire.
01:55:20.000Well, I don't know what England's take is because I don't read him anymore, but thank you for the big super chat.
01:56:24.000Some of you guys, the way your brain works, your brain works like Family Guy.
01:56:29.000Like, the way that people think, it's like every thought is like a Family Guy cutaway scene.
01:56:34.000What if, uh, and then we were in line for, like, heaven, and he was, like, behind you, and he was like, hey man, put in a good word for me, and he was like, um, can I get a source guide?
01:56:49.000People, I mean, you guys are fucking retarded.
02:02:26.000Well the um the mark of the beast people think that it just means like three sixes it's 666 not 66,600 not
02:02:39.000666 thousandths the mark of the beast is 666 these are not the same numbers so and honestly I mean that stuff is interesting I suppose but what's the point like what is that supposed to and what like you know there's some peculiarities about the moon and the distance related to the distance from the Sun and that kind of thing but it's like
02:04:09.000And so in order to prevent Hitler, they need to kneecap white civilization.
02:04:15.000That's what they've done since World War II.
02:04:18.000Their entire existence is in the shadow of the Holocaust, and so they want to prevent a Holocaust from ever being able
02:04:29.000To be Prosecuted ever again and that means destroying white civilization by bringing in non-whites who are simply not capable of something like that so You know and there's all there's all sorts of reasons it's cheap labor.
02:04:46.000It's Democrat votes Jews are ideologically liberal and international they have resent whites and
02:05:47.000Can the country be saved without secession?
02:05:50.000I know the demographics of Gen Z are already cooked, but with a Trump victory and maybe good administration for a while I still think there is space for optimism, but only with quite a significant paradigm shift, less democracy, immigration ban, etc.
02:06:11.000I don't think it'll ever be a secession.
02:06:13.000I think it'll be Like I said the other day like a salutary neglect or Again maybe some kind of opportunity when there's a period of general calamity
02:07:23.000And then when they win, they're gonna come and murder you in the countryside, cause that's what happened in Russia, and that's what's happening now.
02:07:32.000You know, people gave up the cities and they said, haha, now we're safe.
02:07:36.000And now they're hunting you down and making your kids trans.
02:08:38.000Now, there was a time when Peter Thiel and us were... Now, I never talked to Peter Thiel and never got any Thiel money, but there was a time when Thiel was supporting a lot of the people that we supported.
02:08:53.000After the January 6th, Peter Thiel was opening up his network to get a lot of guys jobs who couldn't get jobs after the 6th, who worked in the Trump administration.
02:09:05.000So that was actually very helpful for some.
02:09:08.000And not only that, but he was backing a lot of the candidates that we initially thought about backing and then we found out all sucked.
02:09:17.000So like Joe Kent, you know, initially we wanted to back Joe Kent until he disavowed us.
02:09:22.000And that guy in Georgia, whose name I forget, and then he dropped out.
02:09:33.000And Gibbs in Michigan, I think Teal gave some money to, and he was good, but he lost.
02:09:40.000but that's at this point it feels like ancient history so you know I don't think I was ever pro teal but there was a there was an overlap at one time and but I know people that have worked for him and they say that he's not based and he's a Straussian and you see what his companies have wrought so it was clear that that was we didn't maybe have as much in common as I thought even at that time but the answer is there's no benefit
02:13:32.000The other Donny Hathaway one was good.
02:13:34.000But I don't remember any of the names of those songs or what they sounded like, because I literally just heard them one time in one session.
02:13:42.000But for the Someday We'll All Be Free, I was there from start to finish.
02:13:47.000The day of the Gavin McInnes thing, or maybe a couple days before, he came in and he had written those rhymes.
02:13:53.000And he said, oh hey, so I wrote this last night.
02:14:01.000And then and he was kind of working on it over the course of a few days and then one day we're at the Nobu in the hotel room and He had the guy that made Donda 2 the producer for that album he was there and they recorded the beat over the Recorded it over the Donnie Hathaway sample and I got to listen to it from start to finish.
02:14:23.000It was awesome so But yeah, I heard those
02:17:34.000And then I got totally cucked out of it in like five minutes.
02:17:36.000So yeah, that's... I was a little pissed.
02:17:58.000But I mean, you know, I reckon the thing is about me.
02:18:02.000I'm very loyal and respectful and I Recognize that I was there because of yay like they would not let me on that show if I wasn't there with yay And so when yay got up, I was like, well what I'm here as his guest.
02:18:16.000I'm here as his guy So I'm getting up too