In this episode of America First, host Nicholas J. Fuentes talks about the lack of new cases of coronavirus in the United States, and what that means for the long-term prognosis of the outbreak. He also talks about a new, potentially game-changing antibody test, and the growing number of confirmed cases across the country. And finally, he talks about how important it is to know the mortality rate, which could be much lower than what we know now. America First is a show that focuses on the current outbreak and the potential impact it could have on our understanding of the pandemic. To find a list of our sponsors and show related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/OurAdvertisers Subscribe to America First! Learn more about our sponsorships and promo codes: Become a supporter of our show and receive 10% off your first month with discount code: CRIMINALS at checkout. We'll be looking at the latest in infectious disease and public health products, including vaccines, biodegradable food, medical supplies, and diagnostic equipment, as well as tracking the progress of testing and tracking the outbreak in real-world testing, and providing updates on the outbreak, and how it affects the outbreak and its impact on public health efforts. Subscribe today using the promo code CRIMENTIALS. to receive $10 and receive $5 off your purchase of a copy of the new copy of our new CRIMENDS, CRIMENSION: The Coronavirus: The Official s Guide to the Pandemic Pandemic, a new to our new book, available on Amazon Prime Day, available in paperback edition, on Nov. and Kindle Fire HDX, Kindle Fire, and a free on Audible, Paperback, Blu-ray, and Hardcover, and Blu-VNC, and VSCode, and an Audible Connections, and Audible Pro, we'll be giving you access to all the newest epsiode, the Audible Prime, and more! Subscribe and subscribe to the podcast, you get 20% off the latest edition of the latest episodes of the show, plus a limited edition hardcover edition of our newest edition of CRIMECARD, and all other Audible and T-shirts, we'll get an entire set of hardbound hardbound copies of the paperback edition of The Lonely Planet and VHS, The Crown Provers, and more.
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00:00:15.000Very excited to be back with you here tonight on Friday for another epic show, another fascinating, interesting look into the coronavirus pandemic.
00:01:07.000We had our three-phase reopening plan from the White House that we got to look at and break down how that's gonna work out with gating.
00:01:16.000And what is involved in all the three different phases and what that means and everything and tonight it's like not much really happening.
00:01:24.000The big development that I saw and the biggest story I think is about this antibody test which we talked about last week.
00:01:32.000They have developed an antibody test which is effective and they're able to test your blood and see if you have the coronavirus antibodies.
00:01:41.000Which if you know how that works, you know, I don't know how that works.
00:01:46.000You develop, your body develops antibodies which will be able to fight off a coronavirus infection.
00:01:53.000So they began shipping those tests and they ordered I think 50,000 of those tests last week and now they're being administered.
00:02:01.000And a new study came out of San Francisco where they've begun to administer this antibody test and they found that
00:02:09.000They may have underestimated the number of coronavirus cases in America by between 50 and 85 percent according to this study.
00:02:19.000In other words, they're administering this antibody test and what is turning up is that there are so many more asymptomatic cases than had ever been predicted or that had ever been
00:02:53.000If there were 85 times more cases than we know about, then that means that the death rate would be 85 times lower.
00:03:00.000That would mean that the death rate could be up to 85 times lower than what we have with our current data, which is the number of total deaths over confirmed cases.
00:03:12.000So that would mean that the death rate might be something like 0.05% roughly as opposed to 5% which is what the current data suggests.
00:04:03.000I mean we've been, as much data as we've gotten over the past three months in the United States or in Europe or in Asia, we still have no idea what that mortality rate looks like.
00:04:15.000And I think it's kind of funny because we can't really make any serious knowledgeable decisions unless we have that number.
00:04:23.000We don't really know what we're dealing with until we have an idea of what the proportion is of fatalities for every case because we frankly have no idea how many cases there are still.
00:04:47.000We've now administered more than 3 million tests in the United States and our testing capacity on a daily basis has skyrocketed.
00:04:56.000And I said last night we talked about this a little bit.
00:04:59.000We talked about this a lot more when the outbreak was first reported in the United States, particularly in Washington and in New York.
00:05:08.000We talked a lot about the testing capacity of the United States, which as I said about a month ago, mid-early March, our testing capacity was at about 20,000 per day maximum.
00:05:20.000And as I've been saying, we weren't even there.
00:05:23.000We were testing, you know, I think like less than a thousand per day.
00:05:26.000But our maximum testing capacity with all of our laboratories, technicians, personnel, everything, doing manual coronavirus tests, which took a long time.
00:06:10.000It has just been brutal and you know I've been complaining about it for weeks but it's like holy smokes and here's the worst thing is like I'd like to do like debate type streams but nobody wants to debate.
00:06:24.000I was watching a debate stream before I went live that's why I was a little bit late you know like a minute late.
00:06:30.000I was watching a debate actually on YouTube
00:06:33.000My, uh, well, these two guys that I've been following on TikTok, Nick Videos and Lance Videos.
00:06:39.000You may know Lance, maybe you don't know Nick Videos.
00:06:43.000Um, but these are two conservative, Republican, you know, very normie type, right-wing, uh, social media influencers on TikTok, and they are right now doing an abortion debate on YouTube with some left-wing TikTokers, and I was watching that for a little while.
00:07:00.000And while I was watching it, and I see what's going on with Hunter Avalon, he's doing debates, and it feels like everybody's doing debates!
00:07:06.000Everybody gets to debate, everybody gets a fun exchange, and there's a clash, and it's exciting, but nobody wants to debate me!
00:07:16.000And that is lame, because I have a big platform.
00:07:20.000You know, people should want to debate me because of the big platform, but
00:07:24.000I think that the disadvantage I have going for me is that when you beat everybody you've ever debated, then nobody wants to debate, because they don't want to lose.
00:07:33.000Nobody wants to go on a debate with 5,000 people watching and lose.
00:07:38.000They want to go on a debate with a lot of people watching to have a chance at winning.
00:07:42.000And I do believe it's either that or, you know, like the usual disavowal type stuff,
00:07:48.000You know, can't be caught in a picture.
00:09:37.000I don't know what they're talking about when they say, we have passed the peak, we have hit the peak, because it doesn't seem like that's the case.
00:09:45.000I mean, maybe it's not going to go up exponentially higher than it is now, and you have some degree of stabilization, but we've been following the death number very closely for the past week, or for the past two weeks now, and we first reported a decline in the death rate at the beginning of this week,
00:10:03.000And we've been talking about this, but the death rate was at 2,000 on Friday, down 100 on Saturday, down 400 from that on Sunday.
00:10:09.000She had 2,000 Friday, about 1,900 Saturday, 1,500 on Sunday, 1,300 on Monday, but then it shoots up to 2,600 on Monday and 2,600 on Tuesday.
00:10:38.000So, they're saying that we've passed the peak, but I would say that it'd be more accurate to say that we are at the peak.
00:10:45.000And the thing about the numbers is I don't know if it's a V-shaped graph where they go up and then they go down because that's what people think of about a peak is I mean you know that's not the technical term for it but people think okay we hit the peak and now we're on the way down but it's really more like you rise up to the peak and then it stabilizes there and in a lot of countries that's what you see in New York it seems like this is what you're seeing that it gets up to a certain number and then it's gonna hover there especially when you've got outbreaks across the country
00:12:13.000And according to the new numbers that we're going to look at tonight,
00:12:17.000With this antibody test in San Francisco, that number could actually be 85% higher, which would be a good thing for death, but obviously would mean that the virus transmitted a lot more than we suspected.
00:12:30.000As always, we're going to keep an eye on them, and we'll read them off every day, and we'll monitor the situation and see how it's going.
00:12:37.000They're going to go back up because states are going to begin to reopen.
00:12:43.000And in a sense there will be I guess you could say like a controlled increase and we'll have a controlled number of cases because of course there are precautions being put in place.
00:12:53.000Sanitation, personal protection equipment, social distancing, general consciousness about this hand washing hygiene.
00:13:01.000But nevertheless the more that people are going to be interacting with each other and the more they'll be touching common and shared surfaces
00:13:10.000So, the President is already talking about opening up states before May 1st.
00:13:16.000Some were saying that May 1st would be the earliest, but we could even go to June 1st for some states.
00:13:23.000For example, in Connecticut and I think in Michigan, they talked about delaying the reopening to late May or even the end of May, the beginning of June.
00:13:32.000But the president has said that some states will be reopening this week or next week For example, Texas is looking at easing some of the restrictions Idaho is looking at easing restrictions and of course in some states you have a much lower risk of an outbreak than others because they have a low population density and they don't have just in general they have a much smaller population and
00:14:08.000These numbers are going to go back up and hopefully not back to where they are right now because you know 2,500 dead per day is a lot of people when that goes on for weeks or months.
00:14:18.000That's a pretty high death count so I would hope that it's not going to skyrocket back up but you're going to see more of that.
00:14:25.000But those are our numbers like I said we're going to keep an eye on that.
00:14:29.000The big story that I want to talk about today is this
00:14:32.000Antibody tested in San Francisco and I'll read you the report here because it's somewhat technical and there's some data to look at.
00:14:40.000It says, quote, a team of researchers in California found that the number of coronavirus cases in one county may actually be up to 85 times higher than what health officials have tallied and say their data may help better estimate the virus's true fatality rate.
00:14:56.000Earlier this month, Stanford University-led researchers tested 3,330 adults and children in Santa Clara County who were recruited using Facebook ads for coronavirus antibodies and found that the population prevalence of coronavirus in Santa Clara ranged from 2.49% to 4.16%.
00:15:15.000The most important implication of these findings is that the number of infections is much greater than the reported number of cases.
00:15:25.000So, and this is what we've been talking about since the beginning.
00:15:28.000I know it's been beat to death and you probably get it at this point, but this is what we've said since the start.
00:15:34.000At first it was lack of testing, right?
00:15:37.000The discrepancy between the number of actual infections that existed in America, the difference between that number and the number of confirmed reported cases.
00:15:45.000The discrepancy was caused by the fact that nobody was getting tested.
00:15:49.000So people are out there with coronavirus symptoms or syndromic cases.
00:15:55.000But they weren't getting tested and therefore they weren't being counted.
00:16:00.000Now that we are cleaning up the testing infrastructure and the testing has been made available across the country and it's been made quick and cheap and people can do drive-thru testing.
00:16:11.000Now that we've administered 3 million tests and 120,000 per day.
00:16:15.000Now the discrepancy is not completely a result of that although of course you still do have people that are
00:16:21.000You know, they are not yet symptomatic or they are symptomatic but they haven't been tested and confirmed.
00:16:27.000But now the big source of the discrepancy and a huge source of that discrepancy between the actual number of infections and the tested is the fact that even the testing, even if you test everybody that has symptoms, that is not going to report all the people that do not have symptoms.
00:16:44.000And we don't know what that number looks like.
00:16:46.000And it looks like it's been trending up for months.
00:16:49.000It seems like the more time goes on, the more we find out how just how many people, the scale of how many people in Europe and in the United States and elsewhere that have the virus but have never manifested symptoms and will never manifest symptoms and therefore will never be counted.
00:17:05.000And so if you're taking the percentage of dead out of the total number of cases, it's going to be artificially much higher because you don't have
00:17:15.000You don't have the total number of infections.
00:17:17.000It says, symptomatic carriers of coronavirus have long been a concern for health officials and others who are looking to get a grasp on how prevalent the virus is.
00:17:27.000The researchers also concluded that detecting previously unreported coronavirus cases could also lead to a better estimation of the fatality rate from coronavirus.
00:17:37.000According to the researchers, they say, quote, many estimates of fatality rate use a ratio of deaths
00:17:55.000They said our study suggests that adjustments for under ascertainment may need to be much higher.
00:18:00.000So under ascertainment of the total number of cases, the estimate of how much they're underestimating, under ascertaining how many cases, should be much higher.
00:18:10.000In other words, we should expect that there are way more cases out there that are asymptomatic than previously thought.
00:18:18.000The researchers did note that the study had several limitations.
00:18:46.000It's good news and they're talking about how it could be a 50 to 85 times greater number of asymptomatic cases.
00:18:55.000The study is flawed because when you're looking at the demographics that are worst affected by the coronavirus, particularly probably in California, the worst affected have been minorities.
00:19:06.000Particularly Asians, because the virus came from Asia, and men.
00:19:10.000So if they have an over-representation of white women between the ages of 19 and 64, in other words, probably the group that's least likely to have the virus in terms of age, sex, and race,
00:19:23.000Then the degree to which they are overestimating the number of or rather underestimating the number of asymptomatic carriers is probably less than it actually is based on the study, right?
00:19:34.000Because if they were testing all the Asians and blacks and
00:19:38.000Man, you probably get wildly different numbers.
00:19:41.000So, we'll have to see how that all shakes out once they factor in for these different demographic groups and then see how that applies in other areas, but it is an optimistic sign because what this tells us is that if the death rate is 10 times lower than what we thought it was, then it will have a death rate that is similar to
00:20:01.000Other diseases that are conventional and that we deal with all the time.
00:20:06.000And if that's the case, then reopening the economy rapidly, even if we did a too soon, too quick reopening, it probably wouldn't be as catastrophic as other people projected or predicted, which would be good.
00:20:18.000Ultimately, that would mean that not a lot of people are going to die.
00:20:22.000We can achieve herd immunity without millions dead, without an unconscionable body count.
00:20:28.000And so to me that would be a very good thing.
00:20:31.000So we'll keep an eye on what that death rate is going to be but that is the variable to watch and it's incredible that even all this time out we still have like basically no idea about any of these numbers.
00:20:42.000It's striking that three months into this
00:20:45.000Right, yeah, just about three months, going back to mid-January.
00:20:49.000We still don't know about the origin of the virus.
00:20:52.000We still have no confirmation about where it came from.
00:20:55.000And I remember doing this conversation back in January.
00:20:58.000And we were talking about different studies, talking about how the World Health Organization was taking samples of all kinds of different species of animals.
00:21:08.000At the wet market, they were talking about snakes and bats and wolves and everything.
00:21:13.000And that conversation basically just went away.
00:21:15.000People stopped talking about the origin and the conversation about the fatality rate.
00:21:20.000Even back then we were talking about what is the death rate going to be.
00:21:24.000Initially it was way underreported because China was underreporting their numbers and then people thought that it could be much higher because in Italy the death rate was I think 10% at one point comparing the deaths to the confirmed cases.
00:21:38.000And now in the United States the death rate appears to be around
00:21:42.0005% and that's expected to go down the more people get tested but nevertheless here we are still three months later and we literally have no idea we have no idea how many asymptomatic people there are this is just the best guess yet based on the most current data and the most current methods now that they've developed the antibody test
00:22:01.000Well, we basically still have no idea how many asymptomatic there are.
00:22:05.000We have no idea what the death rate, the true and actual death rate is.
00:22:09.000And if that's the case, we have no idea to what extent this is actually a severe threat.
00:22:14.000Because all the hype about shutting down the economy and social distancing, the reason that everybody is doing that
00:22:21.000Is because if the death rate is 4%, then to have 150 million people get sick is going to result in millions dead over a period of maybe several years.
00:22:32.000And if you stretch that out, if that's inevitable, but you stretch it out over three years, the economy is able to cope with that many people in hospitals and dead.
00:22:40.000But if the death rate is 10 times less than that, if it's 0.3%, then we're talking about something on par with the common flu, with influenza, right?
00:23:06.000And that's why everything's so up in the air, because I know I struck a very different tone like last week than I have for the past few weeks, because you look at the rate of transmission in Asia, and you don't see any major outbreaks in Asia outside of China, and you look at the hospitalizations in New York, and it's way under what was anticipated, right?
00:23:27.000They said 140,000 hospitalizations would be required.
00:23:35.000And there's just so much fog surrounding what we don't know, but also what we don't know we don't know.
00:23:41.000In other words, to what extent are these unknowns truly unknown, and to what extent is the government just not telling us the truth?
00:23:49.000And that encapsulates the extent to which we are in the dark about this situation.
00:23:55.000Because you look at the death rate, and even something like the origin of the virus, and probably somebody knows what those numbers actually look like and what the source actually is, but we're just not being told.
00:24:07.000And I think about things like the personal protective equipment like the masks, is the best case example of this, where remember when all of this started,
00:24:17.000Both the World Health Organization and the government and the media told us do not wear masks.
00:24:24.000And they didn't say don't wear masks because hospitals need them and they're a priority for doctors and healthcare workers.
00:24:31.000And for people that are infected, they said that a mask will not protect you, which is a lie and very different from the actual truth.
00:24:39.000And so that gets back to the question of, well, what is actually unknown and was just being kept from us?
00:24:45.000Because in that case, it's not like they didn't know that masks would protect you from contracting the coronavirus.
00:24:51.000It's not like they didn't know that a respiratory infection is airborne and could be aerosolized
00:24:58.000And in certain medical contexts when it's aerosolized it hangs in the air for hours.
00:25:05.000It's not like they didn't know that and they're scrambling to figure that out and they discovered that that was the case.
00:25:11.000They knew that but they just didn't tell us because they had another agenda.
00:25:15.000They were trying to achieve something that if they told everybody it would thwart that
00:25:21.000Objective, that directive, which was to prioritize the masks for hospitals.
00:25:25.000And of course I understand the idea that hospitals would need masks before people, but when they tell us that we just don't need them and people go out and take unnecessary risks, what that does is it undermines the trust in the institutions.
00:25:40.000And then people like me, and people like you then, as a consequence, are saying, well, what can we actually believe from the government?
00:25:51.000How can we really trust that that's the case?
00:25:53.000And the things that they say they do know, how can we say that that is the case?
00:25:57.000And for a lot of people, this is life and death.
00:26:00.000To what extent they're going to go to work, to what extent they're going to go buy things, to what extent they're going to go out in public.
00:26:08.000I imagine that people died because they didn't wear masks.
00:26:12.000You know, and that's one example, and I'm kind of beating it to death, but that's one example, and the best example.
00:26:17.000That's the most clear-cut and obvious one, and the most striking one.
00:26:21.000I would bet that people went out and actually died because they went out to Walmart, or they went to work, or they went to school, or whatever.
00:26:28.000Maybe people that are high risk, elderly, people with pre-existing conditions.
00:26:33.000And they were told by the WHO, and they were told by the media, and they were told by the government that a mask is
00:26:58.000And if that's the case in a country of 330 million people with nearing a million infections and maybe 85 fold times more than that because of asymptomatic carriers, then probably people got severe cases and died because of that.
00:27:13.000You know, a lot of people like me and other pundits are scrambling to interpret information, but it's so difficult because we also have to interpret the uncertainty and the possibility of ulterior motivations and lies from the people that are reporting the information.
00:27:27.000And not just China, and not just the World Health Organization, but even our own government and our own medical experts.
00:27:35.000And you factor in all the different agendas that are in play in a crisis like this,
00:27:40.000From all the different actors involved, which is foreign state actors, the international transnational governments, our own government, private businesses, Bill Gates,
00:27:52.000And this is the big problem with information in this century.
00:27:55.000You know, I hate to keep extrapolating it out, but it's really like, could not come at a worse time than now, when you have, what did they say in 2016?
00:28:05.000That the word that defined the last election was post-truth?
00:28:15.000It's only perceptions or, you know, the Scott Adams idea of watching two movies, which I, by the way, I think is retarded, but you know what I'm saying?
00:28:23.000It couldn't come at a worse time, a public health emergency, when you need, you need the most up-to-date, reliable information from medical experts and doctors and the government.
00:28:34.000To make decisions about your health and your family now more than ever we need some rock in terms of what can we say is without a doubt reliable is mostly reliable is mostly trustworthy and this is how we base our decisions.
00:28:50.000But we have no idea because of the influence of money and the influence of money from governments and other people and other agendas and to some extent maybe it's always been like this but I don't think it's ever been this bad.
00:29:01.000And you know that certain people like Fauci and Bill Gates and Tedros and all the others, they have a vested interest in keeping the country closed forever.
00:29:19.000When you look at the incentives, the longer that this crisis endures, the more money and power that people like Bill Gates and Fauci and the World Health Organization have.
00:29:29.000Had anybody heard of Fauci in the World Health Organization before March?
00:29:33.000Maybe some of you have, but most people did not.
00:29:36.000And now these are people that are tasked with making big decisions.
00:29:40.000Who are the governors and the president deferring to, to make decisions?
00:29:44.000And if they're deferring to their expertise, well who's really governing the country at that point?
00:29:49.000Doctors, these so-called researchers and scientists, people who we think are above political or other motivations or agendas, these are now the people who have rapidly ascended to power and are making economic decisions and national security decisions, and decisions that are pursuant to the governing of the biggest and most important country in the world.
00:30:10.000And so clearly, these people benefit from the scaremongering.
00:30:16.000And at the same time, you have private businesses, and the stock market, and billionaires, and even the government to some extent, Donald Trump, who stand to gain from reopening the country.
00:30:26.000And so they have a vested interest to downplay the virus because the more that people are unemployed, and the more that they're not earning, and the more that they're not working, and the more that they're not spending,
00:30:36.000The less profit, revenue, dividends, the more the stock market goes down.
00:30:42.000So that's where you see Craigslist advertisements from certain shady corporations that are paying people by the hour to go on Twitter and demand that the government reopen the economy and everybody should go back to work.
00:30:55.000So they have a vested interest in minimizing the crisis.
00:30:58.000And understand that nowhere in this power structure, nowhere in this apparatus, and we could talk about other interests like the media who is trying to just cause trouble for the president or China who is trying to deceive the world and pin it on America or Italy, but just looking at those two polls, nowhere in this information complex do you have any
00:31:56.000It seems to me like the coronavirus is a lot less severe than we knew.
00:32:01.000But how can we really know at this point?
00:32:03.000I mean, what I've been seeing over the past few weeks is probably that we are not going to see a catastrophic pandemic.
00:32:11.000And I know that maybe three or four weeks ago we were talking about hospitals overburdened and death panels and triages being set up and parking lots and mass death and millions dead and things like that.
00:32:23.000But clearly, and based on just everything that I've read, when you're looking at the asymptomatic carriers, which is
00:32:30.000pertaining to the death rate, when you're looking at the rate of hospitalizations, you're looking at the rate of death that we've seen, the projected total number of dead, all of this has been trending downward.
00:32:42.000And that leads me to believe, based on trying to interpret everything that's been said, based on qualifying everything with all the different agendas and motivations and everything, it seems to me like this is not going to be a catastrophic, cataclysmic event.
00:32:57.000That doesn't mean that we're not going to be dealing with it for three years.
00:33:02.000Understand that doesn't mean that we're not going to still see coronavirus cases, and that doesn't mean that we're not going to still see people die from coronavirus, and that we're not even going to see tens or maybe hundreds of thousands of people die.
00:33:17.000But it's not going to be the civilization-changing, world-ending event that we thought it would be.
00:33:21.000Still, you know, a world historical event, and still an inflection point, but maybe not what was projected before.
00:33:28.000But then again, who knows what we'll see next week, or in two weeks, or three weeks.
00:33:32.000It's very possible that in a few months, the virus could mutate, or it comes back with a vengeance, or once social distancing stops, it comes back bigger than before.
00:34:06.000It was just not in the conversation about, you know, just how many people might be carrying the virus but not even getting symptoms, let alone getting severe symptoms and dying.
00:34:15.000And so that number has continued to increase exponentially and speculation about how big that population is has gone up and maybe how many people actually have the antibodies.
00:34:25.000Obviously that's going to make it a lot easier to reopen and a lot less lethal, so that leads me to believe, based on that, that
00:34:32.000Maybe a lot of this was for naught, but you know then again hindsight is 20-20.
00:34:39.000The other big development, and that was our featured story, but the other big development is on the testing.
00:34:43.000And this to me is actually where I'm probably the most confident about the reaction from the government.
00:34:48.000And we talked about these numbers earlier, but this is from the BBC.
00:34:52.000It says quote, Vice President Mike Pence says states have enough test kits in supply to begin moving to phase one of the plan that the White House outlined on Thursday.
00:35:01.000He says that 120,000 tests are being done each day in hospitals around the U.S., and more than 3 million tests have been conducted in total.
00:35:10.000So, if you're looking at those numbers, and we've been kind of monitoring that sporadically over the past couple of weeks, but when we were looking at the testing initially, when the first cases were reported in the United States, and the first outbreaks happened in Washington State and New York, I don't know if you guys remember, but
00:35:29.000Proportionally, and in terms of just total numbers, the testing was the worst in the world, hands down.
00:35:36.000Even worse than Iran, worse than Europe, worse than any other place in the world.
00:35:42.000We were testing 5 people for every 1 million people in the country.
00:35:47.000And in South Korea, it was in the thousands.
00:35:53.000Literally anywhere else had better testing than America.
00:35:57.000And like I said at the top of the show, our total testing capacity, which is the maximum that we could ever hope to do, which is maxing out on laboratories, maxing out on technicians and personnel to process these manual tests, was 20,000 per day.
00:36:13.000On average, South Korea, I think, was doing like 15 to 20,000 every day.
00:36:18.000I don't remember all the exact figures, but I mean it was really, really bad.
00:36:23.000And in a short amount of time, we have now ramped up to 120,000.
00:36:27.000So we took our maximum capacity and multiplied that by six, which is huge.
00:36:34.000You know, you think about how quickly that paradigm has changed from manual tests
00:36:56.000The more that people get tested, and who knows if we're going to test 300 million people or 100 million people, but if we're doing 120,000 tests per day for months on end, you know, eventually you're going to get to the point where we're going to be able to confirm those asymptomatic numbers.
00:37:12.000We'll be able to confirm the true scope of how many infections, and then we can ascertain a real death rate.
00:37:18.000And that is really going to be what's going to drive that recovery.
00:37:22.000The more testing that happens with antibodies and the more testing that happens with positive coronavirus cases, the more knowledge and information we have about how many cases there are and to what extent people are dying, the more we can assess the risk associated with people going back to work and going back to school and all the rest.
00:37:40.000And the sooner that that happens, the sooner that we can go back to our lives
00:37:43.000And get the news going again, and get movies going again, and restaurants going again, and people can leave their houses.
00:37:51.000And I don't know, in some sense it's almost like...
00:37:55.000It feels like winter vacation is ending, you know?
00:37:58.000It almost feels like winter break is ending and now it's time to... Now it's time to return.
00:38:04.000It's almost like... And maybe this sounds like morbid or maybe this sounds wrong to say, but... You ever feel like when it rains outside or there's a big storm that you're almost kind of like cozy inside?
00:38:16.000The storm comes and it's like, well...
00:38:20.000Guess I'll just hang out inside and schmood and watch TV or a game or whatever.
00:38:26.000And then I always feel like this when it stops raining.
00:38:29.000It's like, oh man, it's like I was cozy.
00:38:32.000It felt like we were sheltered in place.
00:38:35.000And now it's like, aw, bummer, now I gotta go, now I gotta go run errands.
00:38:39.000Now I gotta go, you know, in this case, now I gotta go back to work, or gotta go back to school, or gotta go socialize and do whatever again.
00:38:47.000So, you know, maybe it's not the happening that we thought it would be.
00:38:51.000It's almost like the worst happening that we could have asked for.
00:38:57.000We've been asking on this show for years.
00:38:59.000For something big, something exciting, something interesting to happen to make us feel alive, to make us feel like something still can happen, that the course of events still can change.
00:39:11.000And I thought we were going to get one.
00:39:13.000I thought it was going to be, well, we got this happening with the pandemic and it's not as exciting as we thought.
00:39:19.000It's boring, but at least it's a happening.
00:39:22.000And now as we kind of get over that peak, it's like, no, it turned out that wasn't happening at all.
00:39:28.000A non-happening, it was an anti-happening that suspended all news in the world for months and teased us a little bit and now we just go back to the way things were I guess right now it's just right back to the status quo.
00:39:41.000I hope that the big story that comes out of this ultimately is the revenge because
00:39:47.000My real ambition now or the real long-term vision for me now is what is going to be done to China and the World Health Organization when all is said and done.
00:39:57.000It's far less interesting to me at this point what the return to normalcy looks like.
00:40:02.000What's more interesting to me now is to what extent are we going to
00:40:06.000alter what normalcy looks like because that is what must be done now.
00:40:10.000Now that things are stabilizing and appearing to re-solidify and what was once in flux and once chaotic and once uncertain is now becoming much more concrete and certain and status quo.
00:40:22.000And so we have to act very quickly to mold what the new post-coronavirus world looks like as this begins to subside and let up.
00:40:31.000You know, it's almost like when you think about
00:40:34.000An ironsmith or a glass maker you know when they heat up steel they heat up metal so that it becomes hot and when you think about that on an atomic level when you heat something up you know everything becomes a lot less structured and a lot less stable.
00:40:48.000I'm not like a chemist or anything but you understand basically this is the process and when that happens that's when you're able to mold steel.
00:40:55.000That's when you're able to mold metals or hard materials.
00:40:59.000Once they solidify, can't change their shape anymore.
00:41:04.000When the country is hot, and when the country is chaotic, and there's a lot of uncertainties and variables, that is when you can mold it to where you want it to be.
00:41:12.000But the more that it cools off, and the more that it begins to take shape, in that taking shape process, the molding is guided by Bill Gates, and the World Health Organization,
00:41:52.000We'll probably win the election in 2020 based on this and a lot of other factors we've talked about with the election.
00:41:59.000We'll probably win in 2020 and we'll probably win the House with a renewed mandate, especially now with the coronavirus, to reshape the globalist world order.
00:42:20.000And not just an answer, but we have to have a game plan.
00:42:24.000We have to have, logistically and in terms of practical politics, how are we going to begin to influence these institutions using the coronavirus as a pretext and as a mandate to do those things.
00:42:42.000What a giant series of missed opportunities this administration will have been.
00:42:48.000If you win the election in 2016, you have the coronavirus pandemic, you win re-election, and if all is said and done in 2024, you don't have a wall, you don't have a paradigm change in what the GOP looks like, what conservatism looks like, you don't have a paradigm change in our relationship to the world, or China, or the United Nations.
00:43:09.000That is like suicidal levels of missed opportunities.
00:43:12.000That is like bought a winning lottery ticket and like threw it in a dumpster and you could never find it.
00:43:18.000That is like a level of missed opportunity that you will never forget for the rest of your lives and will go down in the history books historically that future generations will weep about it.
00:43:32.000That Donald Trump would stage this impossible comeback for nationalism and populism and immigration restriction, protectionism, non-interventionism.
00:43:47.000You know the Senate works out where it's favorable for Republicans for not just in 2016 but in 2018 and in 2020.
00:43:55.000And then you get a pandemic and China's to blame and the WHO is complicit and like
00:44:01.000And they called you racist for closing down the borders, and imagine if after all of that, you win re-election, you win back the House, there's a mandate against China, the black people are on board, you paid them money, and after all that, it was squandered, and we spent those political dividends on, like, another tax cut, or on a bailout for Boeing, or on Wall Street.
00:44:24.000I don't think I would ever be able to get over that.
00:44:28.000That would probably be equivalent to like a loved one dying or like
00:44:34.000Getting amputated getting like a limb amputated or getting permanent brain damage I mean it would be like up there in terms of things that scar you for life things that you would just never get over Things that would be best just to not think about you know lest you get plunged into depression for weeks because you think about the magnitude of this opportunity before us and what we are currently living through you know not just ahead of us, but that we are in and that we have passed and
00:45:02.000And if nothing is done, man, like there would just be no forgiveness.
00:45:06.000There, I could not, there'd be no clemency.
00:45:39.000It would be all the worst fears of like Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin would have been realized.
00:45:44.000There would have been, you know, people marching down the street with those, you know, that Obama logo, the O with the flag and it looks like a field with the sky over it.
00:45:55.000There would be people marching down the streets with like, you know, Obama armbands and they would be, you know, he would declare America a Muslim country and
00:46:04.000It would turn socialist and, you know, Ben Carson talking about neo-Marxists controlling your healthcare.
00:46:10.000He would blackmail you with government healthcare.
00:46:13.000If Obama was handed these opportunities, we would be living in, like, you know, all those fears would be realized in, like, boomer memes.
00:46:21.000When they do the Soviet imagery of Marx and Lenin and Stalin and Obama, it would become reality.
00:46:27.000Trump has handed all of this and he's like watching television.
00:47:14.000But a plea, but a plea to our leader, a plea to our leader, Donald Trump, you know, if we're going to do an optical salute, a plea to our leader, if he can just put America first at this time, you know, that would be really something.
00:48:34.000What could war escalation with China look like now?
00:48:37.000Well we're not going to go to war with China because you know and people get silly about this and they say you know war with China you know China has nuclear weapons we have nuclear weapons China has defensive capabilities that probably match our offensive capabilities not quite but it's getting there
00:48:57.000You know you're looking at some of their torpedoes or missiles a lot of what they have developed in terms of defensive capabilities give them a disproportionate advantage so you know people are there talking about like a shooting war I think that's ridiculous
00:49:52.000When the Crimean referendum happened and the tanks rolling into the Donbass, you know, we've been in a state of cold or cool conflict with Russia for some time.
00:50:12.000And you know, again, I'm, you know, a lot of people might dispute the characterization of some of these events, but I'm using, you know, just the general idea of what's being reported, how our government perceives it, what has been the government response to these perceived Russian antagonisms.
00:50:27.000It has taken the form of diplomatic and economic sanctions, right?
00:50:32.000Denouncing them in the U.N., denouncing them in formal addresses, and then sanctioning their economy, funding proxy adversaries, you know, for example, funding proxies of Iran or funding proxies of Syria, in Ukraine, shoring up governments there.
00:50:49.000So I would imagine that it would take a similar form in China that we would
00:50:52.000Aggressively try to go after their economy, maybe kick them out of the World Trade Organization, sanction them.
00:50:59.000We might incentivize companies to come back to the United States or to other countries like India or Vietnam or Japan or Taiwan or, you know, whatever.
00:51:08.000We might bolster our allies in the Pacific.
00:52:59.000You see Jaden made his first TikTok today.
00:53:03.000I gotta make my first TikTok maybe this weekend or next week and then I'll be on the road to D'Amelio the road to my wife Dixie D'Amelio or maybe Charlie maybe that road is long maybe the road is two years long and by the time we reach the end of the road she is the ripe age of 17 that beautiful arbitrary age of consent age and that'll be uh
00:53:27.000You know, totally legal and totally kosher and everyone will like that.
00:55:57.000I can't, I can't do anything like, you know, really like that.
00:56:01.000So, but generally, to be, uh, to put yourself out there, you know, what I found worked for me is when I was in, like, high school, I remember I used to get nervous in speech team.
00:56:12.000When I was, like, a freshman, I remember getting, like, very nervous before my first few speech team events.
00:56:18.000And I would be in the hallway pacing back and forth, like,
01:00:42.000They tell me that they'll see people in my live chat and then maybe they'll go into another stream or another stream will be on the front page and they'll go in there and they'll see people that are in my chat one day saying, no egirls, we hate simps.
01:00:57.000They'll see them in an egirls chat simping and donating lemons and so on.
01:01:02.000So if you see any of that, I want those people gone.
01:01:29.000Millennial Welder says, where should men who love musicals be put?
01:01:34.000Um, you know, I think musicals are generally pretty gay, frankly.
01:01:39.000Um, I know some people are like, no, no, it's like high culture or something.
01:01:44.000Although, honestly, I think it really, like, it's hard for me to look at theater and, like, because I used to do stage crew in middle school and, you know, I knew theater kids in high school.
01:01:56.000They all hated me because they were all, like, feminists and lesbians and
01:02:01.000Gay people, and they were all ultra-liberal, and it's hard for me to look at, like, that crowd, and that scene, and it's hard for me to look at, like, Broadway, like, all the actors in Broadway, and be like, like, like I could enjoy that, you know what I mean?
01:02:16.000That, like, bros could be like, no, bro, it's totally cool, we're gonna go watch Cats, we're gonna go watch Fiddler on the Roof, like, I don't know if maybe I'm just a Philistine, maybe I'm just like, I don't possess generational wealth, so I don't get it,
01:02:30.000But the only musical that I like, like, are like the old Hollywood musicals like Yankee Doodle Dandy is a perfect example.
01:02:48.000I'm not really literate enough in the subject to tell you what the story is with that but it definitely seems like back in the day it was cooler when like Frank Sinatra was doing it and like you know all the oldies were doing it and now it just seems like you know liberal stronghold and
01:03:31.000I'm not like, I don't lay awake at night thinking about, you know, men who are not macho enough to dislike musicals, but I just find it to be cringe.
01:03:40.000Based Italians has the feel when you patrolled the fat chick on Twitter.
01:04:56.000I feel like in the Krusty Krab training video when Patrick is ordering and the narrator says, hey, why don't you suggest, or he says, remember, poop.
01:05:08.000He goes, Hey, Patrick, how about a Krabby Patty?
01:06:04.000The 5G stuff is just, there's no... And, you know, I'm all for conspiracies or even funny stuff, but, like, that's just retarded.
01:06:14.000There's nothing... 5G towers are not cooking your brain.
01:06:17.000You know, these are like the people... I had a friend in high school who would put, like, a radiation case on his phone to protect his brain from the radiation from his phone.
01:06:26.000And I've heard people write, oh, no, no, it's legit, dude.
01:06:29.000The Wi-Fi and the cellular in your phone is radiating your brain.
01:09:18.000You know, that's not something you should be doing.
01:09:20.000So, I think that there's no real practical benefit other than if you want to be a degenerate.
01:09:26.000I mean, maybe some people do a little trimming of just general body hair to make it more manageable.
01:09:33.000You know, some people do a little trimming.
01:09:34.000They don't shave themselves so that they're like a girl or like a little boy, but
01:09:39.000They do do a little you know there there is a I guess a practical benefit and just making it more manageable So that's you know reduce like friction and sweat and things like that But I know that the meme that I've seen on like tik-tok and elsewhere I've even seen this in like advertisements I see YouTube advertisements and
01:10:16.000I generally yeah, I generally do think it's gay if you want to know the truth I understand it if you're just doing a like management, but generally I think even that like just Just let it go man.
01:10:27.000Just let it go Diz bro says everyone is either saying it's a hoax or end of the world.
01:14:03.000Unironically though, what I like about this show is that it is at a tempo that is for like high IQ people in the sense that I know that I watch a lot of content and I literally just can't watch it for more than 10 minutes because the pace is grating.
01:14:22.000You watch most content and it is at a snail's pace.
01:14:27.000And I know this show could probably do better in terms of production value with graphics and other things to keep it more clean and tidy but the pace of the show is fast so that if you're a smart person you are getting new information as fast as you can process it.
01:14:43.000I know that when I watch most content I like just get bored out of my mind because it's like okay like I get it.
01:14:51.000Like I was watching a documentary on the History Channel the other day.
01:15:06.000There's a lot of, like, historical errors and, like, bullshit political stuff.
01:15:12.000Anyway, that's neither here nor there.
01:15:14.000But these History Channel documentaries in particular, it's like they do, you know, ten minutes of footage, a commercial break, and then they rehash what they just talked about for five more minutes.
01:15:26.000And it's the same footage, and it's the same... They just recap it, and it's like... I'm too fast for that kind of stuff.
01:16:29.000I mean, I'm sure that would have ramifications on
01:16:33.000Like American debt and like our credit rating and all kinds of things like... Because China owns a significant... out of all the... I mean they don't... I mean people way overestimate how much debt China holds.
01:16:46.000But out of the percentage that they do hold, they're the biggest foreign holder of our debt.
01:16:51.000And I imagine that would have repercussions.
01:16:53.000I haven't looked into too closely what the implications are of that.
01:16:57.000So I can't really give you a good answer on this.
01:17:00.000I think that having China pay reparations in some form, if that's tariffs or sanctions or something, would be right, but I don't know about canceling the debt what the repercussions would be of that.
01:17:48.000I don't even think I'm like, I probably don't have a super high IQ, I don't think, but
01:17:55.000Just the things that I see are just so grating just people that just don't get it You know, I don't know if it's an IQ thing so much as it is people that just Don't get it.
01:18:04.000You know people that are cringe or just you know, there are a lot of dumb people out there So I know my high IQ audience understands that most of the audience probably pretty high IQ.
01:19:35.000I almost feel like a phony, if I were to try and emulate that, and I'm not even interested in that.
01:19:40.000You know, I grew up eating, you know, like a regular Joe, and consuming entertainment like a regular Joe, and that's just who I am, and I don't know, maybe I'll aspire to do things that are more, like, tasteful or mature when I get older, but at least for now, I'm not interested in it, and I also just don't think it's really, it's like a class thing, really, more than anything.
01:20:02.000And people like to pretend that it isn't, but I generally believe that it is.
01:20:06.000It's sort of like in, it's like in the Grey Gatsby, you know?
01:20:09.000There's a big difference between these moneyed people and people that just were born without it.
01:20:15.000Polish American says, sat next to a theater kid, hated hearing his songs play.
01:22:28.000Yeah, I remember my parents dragged me to see that when I was in like high school.
01:22:33.000Because my sister, my sister wanted to see Hamilton and my parents were like, yeah, we'll pay like, you know, $1,000 for those tickets.
01:22:40.000Like, oh, you know, I never recall any money being spent like that on something I want to do, but whatever.
01:22:47.000But in any case, not that it matters, not that I'm keeping score, but I remember we saw it and there's one line in there where they're like, immigrants get the job done!
01:22:57.000Because I guess what, like Alexander Hamilton was an immigrant and like one of the other founding fathers was, so, and one of the numbers that they did, they're like, we're immigrants, we get the job done!
01:23:07.000Everybody's like, yeah, that is so, take that Trump!
01:23:58.000Nick J says, drug alternatives, what do you use?
01:24:03.000I use Twitter mostly, but I read the New York Times, BBC, Fox, the Daily Wire, .Name, I use some others.
01:24:13.000So I take a look at a variety of sources, The Hill,
01:24:17.000You know, it depends on what's in the news.
01:24:19.000If it's more of like a political thing, like in D.C., I'll tend to look at The Hill or The Examiner or The Washington Times, you know, things like that.
01:24:27.000If it's something that is more general, I'll look at, like, NBC or, like, Fox or CNN, even, for that matter.
01:25:17.000contacts has lost 10k in my 401k but yeah thanks for the 600 well I mean that's not really in the government's control actually you know if you make if you're invested in the stock market the stock market goes down but thanks for the 600 like oh yeah it's the government's responsibility to bail you out right baseless accusation says you're a retard you don't watch my show but thanks for the ninjagini uh yeah thanks for the ninjagini big globes says do you like sweet potato fries yeah
01:25:47.000DKR says you had a story about Six Flags but wouldn't tell.
01:25:50.000I honestly don't remember a Six Flags story.
01:25:59.000I don't know what I was talking about.
01:26:02.000I think I've been to Six Flags like one time but nothing like eventful happened so I don't know.
01:26:28.000Brainsick says, PaulTownPodcast live now at PaulTownPodcast on Twitter.
01:26:33.000You know, Brainsick, it's really interesting how Brainsick simps for PaulTown, and the only time I ever see him is simping for PaulTown, yet he orbits my universe.
01:26:42.000You know, it's like, you can either simp for me, or maybe you go and orbit somebody else's, you know, extended universe, right?
01:26:49.000I defend this guy the other day and he's coming in here showing somebody else's show.
01:26:53.000Armin and Groyper with a Ninjagini, thanks.
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