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00:00:41.000Of course, still, our main featured story is going to be about the coronavirus and everything that's going on with that, the new developments, the big developments since we last spoke.
00:02:01.000And China is fifth in global confirmed cases of coronavirus.
00:02:06.000China, which was the original epicenter and obviously the origin of the coronavirus, somehow has less cases, a country with 1.5 billion people, than Germany with 80 million, Spain and Italy with, I think, 70-60 million, and the United States with 350 million.
00:02:32.000Everybody speculated, but they've confirmed.
00:02:35.000Now, thank you, intelligence community, that China is lying about their numbers.
00:02:40.000And more than that, the FBI, or rather, the CIA, what's the difference?
00:02:44.000But the CIA, there is actually a difference, but the CIA says that not only is China not reporting the real numbers, but the CIA says that the CIA doesn't even know the real numbers because China doesn't even know the real numbers.
00:03:20.000One to two weeks out from where China is right now.
00:03:25.000In other words, China has sort of been at the apex, has sort of been at the peak of the pandemic, and we will arrive where China is in about one to two weeks.
00:03:35.000And the reason why it would be important to know how many cases they have
00:06:01.000I also want to talk about one other thing which you may know, and I missed out on this yesterday because I wasn't here, but I do want to talk about it and maybe I'll do a stream tonight or tomorrow about it.
00:06:14.000To watch the video and to really do a deep dive, really want a deep dive into this one.
00:06:20.000I don't know if you guys have seen this on Twitter.
00:06:22.000Maybe you know what I'm talking about.
00:06:23.000Maybe you suspect what I'm talking about.
00:06:26.000But you may know that my origin in politics, or at least in the dissident right, was that I was the leader of the Optics War.
00:06:34.000Does anybody remember the great Optics War of 2017 and 2018?
00:06:41.000When I looked at the alt-right, people like Richard Spencer, and people like Matthew Heimbach, and Eli Mosley, and Michael Enoch, and I said, that's not really viable.
00:06:54.000I said, I look at these people, most of whom are fat, first of all, and then they're also offensive and not palatable in other ways,
00:07:03.000And I said, yeah, I don't think that's the future.
00:07:05.000Somehow I don't think... I look at this collection of obese and effeminate people and I say, somehow I don't think that is the future of the American right.
00:07:16.000I was ostracized, I was called an optics cuck, a bridge burner, can't get along with anybody, he's an entryist, he's... Eli Mosley called me up, you're not gonna be able to sleep on Richard's couch like me!
00:07:31.000You're not gonna be in the movement, and I said, I don't want your movement, your movement is gay, you know?
00:07:36.000But here we are, all these years later, and what did we find out the other day?
00:07:43.000Matthew Heimbach who, if you don't know him, I wouldn't blame you by the way, but Matthew Heimbach was the leader of a basically this group of idiots called the Traditionalist Workers Party.
00:07:57.000And he embarked on his national campus speaking tour, which was called National Socialism or Death, I think in 2018, with a name like that, right?
00:08:08.000And he went around the country with a lot of non-optical looking people dressed up, basically like costumed neo-Nazis, talking about how National Socialism is great and Nazism is great and all this.
00:08:22.000And I was a major critic of that approach for the longest time.
00:09:11.000But he, yesterday, unveiled his new non-profit called Light for Light.
00:09:16.000And so Matthew Heimbach, who was one of the biggest names in the alt-right,
00:09:21.000One of the worst offenders when it comes to LARPing costumed Neo-Nazis whose only purpose is to make us look bad and get the federal government to look into us or arrest us or get young kids trapped on gun charges which happened in Michigan and things like that.
00:09:39.000He came out the other day with a non-profit called Light for Light, which is, get this, one of these new NGOs, these new organizations, which is intended to de-radicalize other alt-right white nationalist people.
00:09:53.000He's essentially the new Christian Piccolini, if you know who that is.
00:09:57.000Christian Piccolini was another costumed neo-Nazi fed from the 1990s, I think.
00:11:00.000I'll read you just a little excerpt from his essay.
00:11:03.000He writes, quote, this is Matthew Heimbach.
00:11:06.000He writes, the capitalist system is 100% grinding white working class people into the dirt, but the true realization must come that it isn't just white working class people who are suffering, but all working class people.
00:11:43.000Working people of the world, working workers of the world unite, something like that.
00:11:48.000I seem to remember a Jewish revolution a hundred years ago.
00:11:52.000Climate extinction and countless millions killed, exploited, tortured, and imprisoned by the capitalist system is even more terrifying and horrific.
00:12:01.000And these statistics of suffering go on and on.
00:12:02.000To zoom out and see the suffering of every person,
00:12:29.000Of any ethnicity, religious creed, sexual orientation, who is struggling under the shackles of oppression and exploitation demands a sense of shared community, shared struggling, of solidarity, solidarity with the workers of the world, the oppressed, the colored people.
00:12:53.000And the reason that I'm talking about this, this guy is not relevant.
00:12:58.000This guy has not been relevant for years.
00:13:00.000And nobody has taken this individual seriously, even when he was alt-right, even when he was a white nationalist, when he was in the Traditionalist Workers Party.
00:13:09.000You know, this was a guy who would go out to these events,
00:13:13.000This is not a serious political actor.
00:13:15.000This is a fat man who goes to LARPing political rallies in a costume, which is essentially, and I don't know if it's by design or if it's just because he's an idiot, because he's stupid, but the point is to make us look dumb.
00:13:30.000The point is to delegitimize legitimate issues.
00:13:33.000The point is to attract media attention or the attention of the federal government.
00:13:38.000And what I've said for years, for years about these people, is that they are not actually right-wing.
00:13:46.000You know, people tell me all the time, from both sides.
00:13:49.000I was just watching, so I've been compiling all of my old streams and debates for the America First video archive, which is coming soon.
00:13:59.000And I was recently, so I was downloading all my debates, Bloodsports, every show I've ever done, you know, seeing if I missed anything.
00:14:06.000And I was watching one of my debates with Ronnie Cameron the other day, who you may remember.
00:14:10.000He was one of these alt-right henchmen who called Richard Spencer the king of all trades.
00:15:38.000And they would say, well, the only reason you don't like us is because, you know, you're, you just want the money, or you're in it for the money, or you think the media will treat you differently.
00:15:47.000I said, no, I just don't subscribe to those beliefs.
00:15:50.000And what I said for years is, what the alt-right is, is essentially racist liberals.
00:15:55.000I mean, these people, and again, I don't say racist in the way that the left does, or the media does.
00:16:58.000They talk about a foreign continent, Europe.
00:17:00.000And don't get me wrong, I understand it's important to have a racial consciousness and think about our heritage and our ancestors, which is in Europe.
00:17:09.000And I'm an American nationalist, and an American patriot, and the American flag means something to me.
00:17:15.000An American history, and American heroes, and all of that means something to me.
00:17:19.000I've been on this continent, or you know, my ancestors have been on this continent, for only a little bit more than a hundred years, but nevertheless, that's where my people have been, and that's my country, that's my heritage, I'm a nationalist.
00:17:32.000They all said America's over, and we need a new country, and new flags, and new this, and whatever, and those are just two basic differences, and I even said this on the show last week.
00:18:25.000Did he just hang it up and say, you know what, I want to move on with my life and maybe if I create this NGO they'll let me have a job again?
00:18:33.000I don't know what leads somebody to do this.
00:18:35.000But the failure of the alt-right, it's just this breaking down which has been happening slowly for the past like three years.
00:18:43.000It's just like the slow burning, slow moving collapse, like a slow motion, like a building in free fall of the alt-right for the past few years.
00:18:52.000It vindicates everything we've been saying for years.
00:18:56.000And so at this point, I think it's almost safe to say that we can basically take apart the old dichotomy of alt-right and alt-light.
00:19:03.000We still kind of use those terms, and I've been thinking about that.
00:19:21.000That is the meaningful, that is the descriptive, that is the real division in the American right today.
00:19:27.000Between two serious and viable political expressions of American conservatism, you've got neoliberal Koch brother,
00:19:36.000Small government, libertarian on this side, and you've got American nationalist, populist, Christian over here, the America firsters on the other side.
00:19:45.000And everything else to me is unserious, including and especially costumed neo-Nazis, who maybe their only conviction is being obese.
00:20:38.000Alt-Right can apologize, they won't, but if they did, I wouldn't accept their apology because I was right, and it was obvious, and a lot of us were right, and I think a lot of people came aboard the show because they saw a valid criticism
00:20:54.000I think a lot of people have flocked to this show, and the reason there's so much energy and excitement and engagement with this movement is because people, maybe they saw some of the legitimate criticisms that the alt-right had of the system, which is mass immigration, which is a very corrupt and lying media, which is an economic system, which even if you're right-wing, even if you're not a socialist,
00:21:19.000It's not working for the average person.
00:21:21.000It's not working for the middle class.
00:21:23.000Maybe it's working for the poor, but definitely not the working in the middle class, right?
00:21:28.000And so I think a lot of people recognize those legitimate criticisms, but it wasn't until America first came along that there was a political movement, there was an expression of those grievances that wasn't weird, that wasn't some
00:21:41.000Fringe group of people that are anti-social and just strange.
00:21:47.000You know, that's the bottom line I think about that is what we have to recognize about the alt-right is it was always sort of an anomalous thing.
00:21:55.000If you remember the 2016 election, who energized the American right?
00:22:11.000Who, 4chan, by the way, and a lot of the zoomers and millennials that made up the meme culture in 2016, were not unironic national socialists.
00:22:26.000They were against political correctness.
00:22:28.000They were actually much more moderate.
00:22:30.000And if you did have anything, any kind of symbolism that was weird or edgy or whatever, that's what it was.
00:22:35.000It was edgy, it was ironic, it was trolling, right?
00:22:40.000And I think at a certain point, and I've talked about this before, you had this hijacking by this group of people that nobody was really too familiar with, who were never really in on it with the memes or with the energy.
00:22:53.000Like, I don't think any of those characters, Spencer and Heimbach and those assorted others, they were never really the drivers of the meme culture, of internet culture, of the right-wing
00:23:07.000They just kind of usurped it, and they were the ones, I think, to take a lot of that energy from it, and then people realized, oh, well, you sound like a fag, and you're fat, and you're married to somebody Jewish, and you look kind of Jewish, and like, what's up with that, right?
00:23:39.000I think you'd see even Richard Spencer's making that pivot.
00:23:42.000If you look at his Twitter timeline any day of the week, he's talking about how Islam is great and I'm actually criticizing Trump from a liberal perspective and I have a liberal girlfriend and I support Mike Bloomberg and
00:23:54.000I don't know, do you see the beginnings of a transition there too?
00:23:57.000Are they all going to be de-radicalized?
00:24:00.000Anyway, maybe I'm beating a dead horse at this point, but I think it's very important to acknowledge that that movement has not been relevant for a long time.
00:24:10.000These people have not been relevant for a long time.
00:24:12.000But it is important for anybody, because I got a super chat just the other day, somebody saying, you know, why aren't you nice to the alt-right?
00:24:20.000Why is the alt-right in the big tent, but not the alt-right?
00:24:23.000Well, excuse me, I think we could do away with that dichotomy for good now.
00:24:30.000These people who have no convictions at their core are not right-wing, they're not Christian, they're not on the same page as us, and they're not serious political actors.
00:24:39.000And maybe that matters more than anything, is they're not serious political actors.
00:24:43.000We want serious people that are viable,
00:24:58.000All these people that are out there that are about, you know, class struggle, and workers of the world unite, and gay people, and Africa, and the poor, and women stand up against climate change.
00:26:45.000I was like, it was me, it was Ricky Vaughn, and Ricky Vaughn kind of came around later.
00:26:50.000I was 18, 19 years old, and I said, you know, this whole movement's wrong, and everybody, oh, you're a bridge burner, you can't get along with anybody, you're a cuck, you just want the media to like you, you're a boomer, blah, blah, blah.
00:32:13.000It's worse than Italy on another continent.
00:32:15.000It's worse than, or rather, it's better than Italy.
00:32:19.000It's better than the United States across the ocean.
00:32:22.000The virus went across the ocean and it spread in a country with a population one-fifth the size of China, and there's more infections in the U.S.
00:32:35.000But the CIA has finally confirmed it for us.
00:32:38.000This is an obfuscation, according to the New York Times.
00:32:42.000They could have profound impact on health experts' ability to predict how the virus will spread.
00:32:47.000American officials have long viewed many figures and reports out of China with suspicion, but the intelligence about China's undercount of its coronavirus death toll played a role in President Trump's negotiation last week of an apparent detente with President Xi Jinping of China after weeks of rising tensions over the virus.
00:33:06.000The CIA has its own health experts and epidemiologists who work on classified models of the pandemic spread, and intelligence officers seek new information to contribute to those models and improve them.
00:33:19.000But American intelligence agencies have not obtained better numbers about the death toll in China in large measure because the Chinese government itself does not know how damaging the virus has been.
00:33:30.000Mid-level bureaucrats in the city of Wuhan, where the virus originated, and elsewhere in China, have been lying about infection rates, testing, and death counts, fearful that if they report numbers that are too high, they will be punished, lose their position, or worse, according to current and former intelligence officials.
00:33:48.000White House officials believe that China is a month or so ahead of the United States in how the pandemic will play out,
00:34:45.000And meanwhile, while the virus is slowly plateauing, you know, their virus curve, first you get a lot of cases and then it slows down to around 79, 80,000.
00:34:54.000While all this is happening, the whole country's going on lockdown.
00:34:59.000And they're shutting down their borders.
00:35:00.000They're, you know, all of this is going on.
00:35:03.000That's why even back in January, we were talking about how they're lying.
00:35:07.000They're lying about what they know, they're lying about what they don't know, they're not telling us the real numbers, they're not telling us anything legitimate about the virus, or its origins, or its structure, right?
00:35:19.000It's, uh, I don't know what you would call that.
00:35:21.000But they even lied about what the virus itself is, the symptoms, the severity, etc.
00:35:26.000Anybody could tell, because of the dissonance between what they're doing and what they're saying.
00:35:55.000And then it just keeps getting more and more ridiculous over the months from January on, that then the virus completely plateaus, and you're telling me that Italy has more cases than China?
00:36:12.000Populations that are a fraction of the size, oceans or continents away, from the epicenter of the pandemic, and they've got drastically more cases, more cases per day, record numbers, deaths, hospital overrun, and so on.
00:36:48.000People legitimately would ask me that.
00:36:50.000The problem with the lying is twofold.
00:36:54.000Number one, if they didn't lie from the start, we could have taken better precautions.
00:36:58.000If they told us back in December, when it came on their radar, what was going on, we could have done a travel ban, we could have shut down flights, we could have literally said, if you're Chinese, you can't come to the United States.
00:37:12.000If we said, if you're in China, or you're Chinese, you're not getting in.
00:37:17.000We probably could have totally curbed this.
00:37:20.000Could have never hit the United States, right?
00:37:22.000Or, if they told us in January, or February, if they told us about the severity of the virus, we could have prevented, in large measure, all of what has happened to our country.
00:37:32.000The problem is we didn't have a serious reaction until way too late.
00:37:36.000And the action we did take in January was we shut down flights from China.
00:37:41.000First it was a screening, and the screening was insufficient.
00:37:44.000And then it was the shutdown with China, but even that was insufficient because Chinese people who are infected don't just come from China.
00:37:52.000Maybe they get a connecting flight, right?
00:37:54.000Or maybe you have Chinese people that are in Japan, or in South Korea, or they're in Vietnam, or whatever.
00:38:00.000The scope of the problem and the severity of the problem would warrant a much more serious and thorough response, which we did not have the benefit of having that information to carry those kinds of policies out.
00:38:40.000In other words, China could show us how the virus spread in their country, how they reacted to it.
00:38:46.000They could give us data that will help us learn from their mistakes and learn from the things they did right, and also forecast what it's going to look like in our country with the first wave.
00:38:56.000Tapering off and then the coming second wave, and we can better prepare for the next one and resolve the first one.
00:39:20.000On the left, who are globalists, and people on the right, who are anti-American.
00:39:24.000I get a lot of this from dissident right types.
00:39:27.000Who will always be skeptical of the American government when it comes to foreign policy or what comes even to domestic policy.
00:39:35.000For example, when we do anything in the Middle East, we never trust, they never trust the American media, but they trust the Iranian media and they trust the Russian media.
00:39:44.000When anything happens in Europe, they will never trust the American media.
00:39:47.000The American media always lies, but they'll trust the Russian media.
00:40:34.000Foreign policy based on the national interest.
00:40:36.000That is, their country first at the expense of everybody else.
00:40:40.000And so here's the perfect example of that.
00:40:42.000Where China lies about their numbers and they throw everybody else under the bus.
00:40:46.000They lie about their numbers so that they can take care of themselves and also so that the damage will be spread out.
00:40:53.000They don't want the virus to only hurt them.
00:40:55.000They know that if they tell the world about it, well then the United States will be strong and China will be weak.
00:41:01.000So they say, well, I'll just keep this to myself, and all those Americans will get sick, and that'll level the playing field here a little bit.
00:41:27.000Was it the Chinese government that spread it here, or was it Chinese people?
00:41:30.000When you see people in our country, have you seen these videos going around of people in, I saw this video the other day, somebody was in Walmart or Best Buy, you have a Chinese woman walking around touching every phone, touching every laptop, touching every keyboard and computer, and you can see it's deliberate, making a point to touch everything.
00:41:58.000And the point being is we have to take care of ourselves, even if that comes at the expense of every other country in the world put together.
00:42:07.000Every other country on earth you could put up all of their our consideration for all of them and that should not match what we do for our own people and we have to remember this when we all resolve this we can work together with China for now because in some sense we have to because
00:42:24.000Everybody's the chips are down for everybody the economy's down We need the pharmaceuticals.
00:42:30.000We need the medical supplies and all that.
00:42:31.000I mean we are dependent on China So in the midst of a crisis like this is not the time to pull the plug but we certainly need to be ginning up the propaganda machine
00:42:58.000When your loved one dies, when you lose your job, when you were put in this financial strain, when you got fired from your job or your graduation got canceled or you got sent home from school, we have to remember who's responsible for this.
00:43:15.000And for years we've had this mentality of, progressive, we're the human race, and capitalism lifts all the boats, everybody's doing great.
00:43:24.000And what did we do with China for 30 years?
00:43:26.000We created the World Trade Organization, we created this trade regime internationally, and they have benefited for years from our markets, from our intellectual property, trading with them.
00:43:38.000Our infrastructure, our technology, our international institutions, and do you think they have a lot of gratitude for that?
00:43:45.000It's just like I said the other day about Mexico closing their borders to us.
00:43:49.000It's just the same in the case of China.
00:43:51.000Where did all of China's wealth come from?
00:43:55.000It came from the American market because they sold their goods to us.
00:43:59.000It came from our intellectual property that they steal.
00:44:02.000It comes from our expertise that they steal.
00:44:05.000They have our companies build factories over there and they learn our techniques and they steal our intellectual property, they steal our patents, and then they sell our stuff back to us and they sell it to their own people.
00:44:31.000Well, if we introduce all of our adversaries to our markets, to our pop music and our blue jeans and our economic freedom, then they'll become democracies.
00:44:44.000And when they do, they will not fire a shot because democracies get along and there's no conflict and everybody will hold hands and we'll all vote in the United Nations and things like that.
00:44:57.000They took with both hands for 30 years, and now that they're rising against us, now that their power is rising proportionally against American power, they are going to wield the full force of it asymmetrically against us for the next century.
00:46:09.000And we have to be just as ruthless and cold-blooded as they are.
00:46:12.000And if that means that China's going to hurt, if that means the Chinese are going to starve, if that means that there's going to be massive devastation of China, then so be it.
00:46:21.000Because that's the state of the world, and it's either us or them.
00:46:33.000We have thought, or the prevailing ideology by our elites for 30 years has simply been that.
00:46:39.000It's been that we have to look out for the world now.
00:46:42.000We have to have this global consciousness and think about global citizens.
00:46:47.000Not American citizens, but the citizens in Sudan, and the citizens in Rwanda, and the citizens in Serbia, and China, and Georgia, and all these other countries, right?
00:49:12.000There's not enough hospital beds and ICU beds and ventilators to go around.
00:49:16.000There's not enough for all of the Americans, let alone all the illegals in this country, let alone all the immigrants in this country, let alone all the people of the world from Mexico or anywhere else who need to get them.
00:50:59.000And it's inequality within countries, and it's inequality between countries.
00:51:03.000And we have to understand that, because people are going to come here, there's a finite number of resources, and the more that we concede and defer to them, the less we will get.
00:51:13.000And there's nobody that's going to look out for our own people other than ourselves.
00:51:18.000We have to be our own advocates for once, for once in maybe our lifetimes, not in our history.
00:51:24.000We looked out for ourselves before, but for the first time in our lifetimes, we have to look out for ourselves as a people and as a nation.
00:51:31.000And that comes with Mexico and China, everybody in this crisis and in the crisis coming down the road.
00:51:37.000And that's how we have to be thinking down the line.
00:52:18.000Can't sustain 700 million people, a billion people that are takers and freeloaders and contribute nothing and then are violent and don't know how to act.
00:52:27.000It couldn't maybe even entertain a billion people that did know how to act.
00:52:53.000All this shit about individualism doesn't mean anything in a time of a pandemic like this, right?
00:52:59.000When we look at what's happening to our country, it's not affecting individuals, it's affecting our country.
00:53:05.000It wasn't individuals that lied to us, it was that country.
00:53:09.000It wasn't individuals that brought it here, it was Chinese people and it was the Chinese government that lied.
00:53:14.000And it's not individuals that'll suffer, it's our nation collectively.
00:53:18.000Our nation, the stock market, the economy, if you go to a store and you catch the coronavirus, if you go to a hospital, there's not enough ventilators, it's a national, it is a collective effort.
00:53:28.000We are a part of a collective, whether you like it or not.
00:53:31.000So that's what all of that amounts to.
00:53:33.000That's what all this ideology, progressivism, and capitalism, and everybody's gonna be a rich man, and everybody's gonna be a voter, and a worker, and a consumer of goods, that's what all this amounts to.
00:54:41.000I want to talk about the jobless claims as well.
00:54:44.000The other big development from today is about the economy.
00:54:48.000The other big development is this jobs report that's going to come out tomorrow.
00:54:53.00010 million, 10 million jobless claims in two weeks is the big number.
00:54:57.000And I'll read you, this is a report about it from the New York Times, just a couple of paragraphs here.
00:55:02.000It's as quote on Thursday, the stunning scope of the economic disaster has become clearer as the Labor Department reported the loss of 10 million jobs in just two weeks.
00:55:13.000Wall Street is seemingly imploded and the global economy is shuttered as the fallout of the pandemic reaches into every country.
00:56:15.000So, not only did China bring the virus that's killing your loved ones and causing these problems, but also worst depression or recession since 1929.
00:56:42.000And that's the thing, though, that you've got to keep in mind.
00:56:44.000When you look at these economic numbers, and I keep saying this, a lot of people have been saying, all these people that want to get back to work, they're putting the GDP ahead of people's lives.
00:56:56.000They're putting my stock market, my line going up over people's lives.
00:58:15.000And a lot of people are suffering if they don't have the coronavirus because they're running out of money or they don't have a job and they have to take care of their loved ones, you know, their kids or elderly or, you know, themselves even.
00:58:29.000So I look at a situation like this and this is not sustainable.
00:58:33.000Now that doesn't mean that we go back to work tomorrow, but it does mean that we have to figure out how we're going to live with this coronavirus because this is going to be here for a long time folks.
00:58:42.000I've been saying that for a while now.
00:58:44.000It's going to be like this for a long time that we're going to be dealing with bouts of the virus and outbreaks and even if it subsides in the future, it's going to come back until we develop a natural immunity or we have a vaccine.
00:58:58.000And you don't get a vaccine very easily.
00:59:00.000People are saying 12 to 18 months for a vaccine.
00:59:03.000Vaccines rarely come around for viruses.
00:59:05.000I think there's like one vaccine ever that was effective.
00:59:09.000I'm not a scientist, but you don't really get super effective vaccines for viruses is what I've been reading.
00:59:16.000So we're going to have to deal with this.
00:59:18.000And a lot of people are going to die and a lot of people are going to get it.
00:59:21.000But how do we not destroy the economy in the meantime?
00:59:24.000This is simply the adult conversation to have.
00:59:27.000And I'm sensitive to the idea of loss of life and risk and all these things, but as always, it's about trade-offs.
00:59:34.000We cannot just simply suspend all economic activity.
01:00:01.000It's because you need food, it's because you need toilet paper, you need the essentials, you need electricity, you need the water to run, you need police to keep criminals off the streets, you need people to work at hospitals, and the economy's kind of built on compensation, and it's built on incentives.
01:00:17.000What if you went into an Amazon warehouse and told everybody, um, so nobody's getting paid,
01:00:23.000Because, you know, nobody has any money, nobody's buying anything, and blah blah blah, right?
01:00:28.000So, but I hope you'll come to work so that we can keep the machines going.
01:00:32.000Are people gonna say, well, okay, I'll keep coming to work.
01:01:14.000You know, Jeff Bezos may have a lot of money, but he doesn't have enough money to keep the economy going indefinitely in a country of 350 billion people.
01:01:21.000To pay for all their stuff, and pay their wages, and their benefits, and so on.
01:01:25.000Or for his employees, and the same goes for a lot of these people.
01:01:29.000I don't know if you have to go back to like, and I know some of these like alt-light videos are cringy, but look at the wealth of the top 1%.
01:01:36.000It's not enough to keep the country going, it just isn't.
01:01:40.000And so this economic picture is not sustainable.
01:01:44.000And then again, going back outside isn't exactly a great solution either.
01:01:49.000So we need to find something in the middle where people can go to work,
01:01:53.000And they can make money and produce things and contribute to the economy, but do so with drastically less risk.
01:02:01.000And if that means masks, temperature checks, things like that, then so be it.
01:02:21.000Some kind of advisory or oversight or something like that on how we can get people back to work and maintain regulations where there'll be accountability and so on so that people can get back out there without getting sick.
01:02:33.000And maybe there will be restrictions for elderly people still or people that are at risk or something like that but
01:02:39.000You know, you see 10 million people unemployed.
01:02:41.000We cannot handle 10 million unemployed next week and 10 million unemployed the week after that.
01:02:47.000I mean, the whole house of cards is going to come down.
01:02:49.000And you might say, well, that's their fault.
01:03:05.000That's why you want people to go back to work and die from coronavirus.
01:03:09.000And you tell them, well, you know, a lot of people are going to start to die if we don't fix the economy because people survive by getting paid and then they buy things, right?
01:04:01.000That's so that people can stop getting fired and laid off, and they can start feeding themselves again, and not have to wait for a government check, which may never come from the Treasury Department, right?
01:04:11.000So, as always, it's a balance, it's about trade-offs, and it's about being practical.
01:04:16.000But, we're gonna move on and we'll take a look at our Super Chats.
01:05:02.000It's so... I think about these three guys.
01:05:05.000Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh, and Michael Tracy.
01:05:09.000These three are a very special breed of people who definitely agree with us on the issues.
01:05:16.000Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh are Catholic, and they're basically reactionaries.
01:05:22.000Like, they're against social liberalism, they're against fornication and LGBT, and they're against abortion, and they're against democracy in some capacity, they're against liberalism, basically.
01:05:50.000But everything else, there's a lot of overlap.
01:05:52.000We're actually way more in agreement with people like Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles than we are with Charlie Kirk or even somebody like Richard Spencer, frankly.
01:06:01.000Because these guys are Catholic and, you know.
01:06:05.000They're anti-liberal, they're illiberal, and they're in favor of, you know, all these things that I just said.
01:06:10.000But, well that's Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles.
01:06:12.000Michael Tracy is anti-war, he's against the elites, he's criticizing the billionaires and the capitalist class, all that kind of stuff.
01:06:21.000But all these people will then turn around on us and say, oh, you're denied the Holocaust, you're a white supremacist, you're a neo-Nazi, whatever.
01:06:30.000And it's largely because of the Israel thing.
01:07:03.000And he would say, you know, maybe I don't agree with Nick on everything, but, you know, he's a Catholic, he's a believer, he's et cetera, et cetera.
01:07:11.000But they work for Ben Shapiro, who's anti-Christian, and he's Jewish.
01:07:15.000And somebody, I think Vince James asked Matt Walsh at one of his events, he's like, how can you be a Christian and work for Ben Shapiro, who said that Jesus was a rebel who got killed for his trouble?
01:07:26.000And Matt Walsh was like, oh, so we can never work for somebody that's not Christian?
01:07:31.000And it's like, no, nobody said that, retard.
01:07:50.000It does matter, however, if you are a political commentator and you write for a publication that is run by somebody who says something like that.
01:08:01.000That would be like saying you're working in an office for a Democratic congressperson that advocates for abortion and gay marriage and all this, and you're a Catholic and you're like, why should it matter?
01:08:14.000Oh, I have to agree with my boss on everything?
01:08:16.000I have to agree with my boss on his politics and on religion?
01:08:19.000Not in every case, but certainly if you're working in politics.
01:08:23.000Certainly if you're working in political media.
01:08:27.000What if I was working for... What if I was, you know, some kind of Catholic and I was working for a Muslim who was talking about how they need jihad in Europe and they need to convert the unbeliever?
01:08:39.000Would Matt Walsh say, oh yeah, that's perfectly fine.
01:09:31.000Muslims think that Jesus Christ was a prophet.
01:09:34.000Now, they don't believe that Jesus Christ was a son of God, but they believe he's a prophet, and they actually revere Jesus Christ.
01:09:40.000Ben Shapiro believes that Jesus Christ was a rebel, who was a false prophet, who got killed for his trouble, and deserved it, and he's in hell, and all his followers are in hell.
01:09:54.000Because Matt Walsh believes that Israel is defending itself against Muslims, and Muslims are the scourge in Europe, and Islam is the problem.
01:10:04.000I could never work for a Muslim because, you know, Muslims are...
01:10:08.000Well, wait a second, but Muslims don't hate Jesus Christ.
01:10:12.000Atheists don't hate Jesus Christ either.
01:10:14.000I mean, some atheists do, but a lot of atheists believe that Jesus is like, you know, maybe they don't believe he's the son of God or even a prophet, but in a lot of cases, you see liberals who say that, well, you know, Jesus is an archetype, or Jesus was a good social teacher, Jesus was like Gandhi, or something like that, right?
01:10:56.000What is a Jewish person but somebody who believes in the Old Testament or is ethnically Jewish?
01:11:01.000As far as a religious Jew goes, a religious Jew is somebody that believes in the Old Testament but necessarily denies Christ.
01:11:09.000Old Testament, all that, when you're talking about the religion, but necessarily they deny Christ, and necessarily they think he's a false prophet, and you know, they're descendants of the Pharisees.
01:11:21.000That's not me saying that, that's the Bible, frankly.
01:11:25.000And I don't hate all Jewish people, I'm not saying I don't like Jewish people, or I'm not tolerant of their religious beliefs or anything like that, but that's what they believe.
01:11:33.000And if you're a Christian, I don't know how you can reconcile yourself to working for somebody like that when you ostensibly are a religious, what would you call that, a evangelist.
01:11:47.000You're a Catholic evangelist, essentially.
01:11:49.000You're working in media, you're working as a political commentator, you want to evangelize people with a Catholic-oriented political worldview, and you're working for somebody that isn't just somebody that's not Christian, or doesn't believe in Jesus,
01:12:02.000But it said that Jesus was a Roman rebel that got killed for his trouble, and reads this book that says horrible things.
01:12:08.000And so Vince James goes and asks him, oh, why do you work for somebody that says X, Y, and Z?
01:12:13.000So, oh, so I could never work for somebody that's not Christian?
01:13:31.000This is who these people associate with.
01:13:33.000And, you know, again, I'm not going to say I'm never going to associate with somebody who's not Christian, or I would never associate with somebody who's Jewish, but I wouldn't work for them, and I wouldn't be on their network, and I wouldn't tirelessly defend them, and all this kind of stuff, right?
01:13:59.000And, you know, I don't know Michael Knowles' heart, so I don't want to speak to that, but why does somebody hide their true beliefs like that?
01:14:11.000I don't know his motives, but clearly he's not saying what he believes.
01:14:16.000Clearly he's playing something close to the chest for reasons.
01:14:19.000I don't know why so I I have no tolerance for people to do this I have no tolerance for Because now's the time now's the time when we need people to put America first not in 20 years when it's too late so
01:14:32.000Anyway, Zoomer G says, watch your mouth, bitch.
01:17:50.000Just wait until we get the lemon chicken.
01:17:51.000Do you know what she does when she makes the lemon chicken?
01:17:55.000She'll make the lemon chicken, she'll put it out in a pan, and everybody's eating their lemon chicken, and she will put her finger in the lemon sauce and eat it.
01:18:05.000And I just like, oh, I have to like pull my chair out.
01:18:26.000Once people are done sort of picking out of the pan or the bowl or whatever, you know, there's like a plate of the chicken and a bowl of green beans or whatever.
01:18:34.000Once that happens, she's like, oh, the rules don't matter anymore.
01:18:38.000I'll just take my fork and jam it in the community bowl and I'll just take this and I'll just eat.
01:19:13.000Increasingly, I'm becoming like Howard Hughes.
01:19:17.000I can absolutely see a trajectory for me, where I end up one day, totally alone, in a room, naked, with a napkin over my private parts, drinking jars of orange juice, screening the same movie over and over again a thousand times.
01:19:31.000I can definitely see a future scenario.
01:20:04.000Anyway, so yes, I can tell the chicken is coming back.
01:20:07.000The chicken is making a return Maybe I'll just have to learn how to cook.
01:20:12.000She's gonna make me learn how to cook that way I think that's what it is.
01:20:14.000It's some kind of tactic Just it's like psychological warfare or something.
01:20:20.000It's like it's like economic sanctions It's like you're only gonna eat chicken and then you know, you'll have to you'll have to adapt its containment.
01:20:27.000She's trying to contain me so now she was she's been doing a great job up until that and
01:20:34.000Making some pretty good stuff, and then it's the chicken again.
01:20:37.000Nobody wants this dry, flavorless, grilled chicken.
01:24:25.000Based griper says yo highly respected by Scott Greer is good stuff.
01:24:29.000Yeah, pretty good podcast third episode came out the other day Solid snakes is who lashes out more viciously Coomers or Zionists probably Coomers
01:25:50.000Can we get a 07 in chat for Big Money Wagee?
01:25:57.000Polish Americans thought your announcement was an April Fool's joke.
01:26:01.000Yeah, I don't know why people thought I was doing an April Fool's joke yesterday.
01:26:06.000What would be the point do you think I'm the kind of guy that does all April Fool's I got you I Thought about maybe just coming on anyway, but I was like, no, I don't feel like I feel like shit Some people are like is this April Fool's I thought what if I did make it a joke?
01:26:48.000And I know that might sound like dramatic or something, but anybody who is like an entrepreneur or a business owner knows what I'm talking about.
01:26:56.000If you're not an employee, generally speaking, because there are other people, like if you're a lawyer or a doctor, it's a little different, but you know what I'm saying.
01:27:04.000If you're not an employee, like you don't really have that firm
01:27:17.000Like, it's not like I have hours, and I'm like, oh well, I didn't finish today, clock out and I'll get to it on Monday.
01:27:22.000It's like, no, like, I gotta, it's, everything's on me.
01:27:25.000If I don't do, if I don't innovate, if I don't do something right, it's like, it's on me.
01:27:30.000So I, if I have to take a call at 10 o'clock, or I have to, you know, work 12 hours in a day, or I have to bust my ass, you know, I just have to do it, so.
01:27:41.000You know, people are always like, oh, med work ethic, oh, he's taking a day off.
01:27:44.000People are like, when I'm at CPAC, people are like, you're on vacation.
01:35:51.000I saw on Facebook, according to Brainy Quote, according to Brainy Quote, Leon Trotsky, leader of the Soviet Union said, that I will take over America without firing a shot.
01:36:03.000You will just watch mainstream media like CNN.
01:36:10.000Donald Trump was a baby when he said that.
01:36:13.000okay uh yeah you're so right the commies man did they take over uh cane says we love our feds yeah spencer says nick screw your lack of op okay i'm not gonna read that elijah says we love msm lab coats and 5g ha ha ha april fools servos is kind of sleepy right now great show though stay safe king okay thanks buddy
01:41:07.000I mean, didn't we all get on this train because we were opposed to that?
01:41:12.000I mean, we were opposed to it for the wrong reasons, but, I mean, certainly we are not down with the rape gangs and the grooming gangs and the violence and the looting and all that.
01:43:20.000Yeah, so I would probably I mean late is a banger all the closing tracks are bangers, honestly What's the one I know it's a good night, but what's the other one on graduation track list?
01:43:31.000Let's see I Don't know it's bittersweet poetry.
01:43:35.000Well, but that that's technically not there.
01:43:37.000Yeah, it's big brother and good night.
01:43:38.000So I would probably say um Lost in the world is pretty good.
01:44:46.000International relations is, it's my interest, I think it's very interesting, but it's like a fake degree.
01:44:52.000It's like a bullshit liberal arts degree.
01:44:54.000That was the number one degree at Boston University and it was all these women who would graduate in like, you know, climate or, you know, United Nations studies or whatever.
01:45:31.000Bob Sacamato says, woman at Walmart equals Patrick at the jellyfish convention.
01:45:37.000touch yeah touch that's pretty funny Polish American says hey China we hate you all right why you know I don't know if I hate China but they certainly are our enemy watch it we're on D live let's let's relax a little bit let's be optical em drive says this is the true nature of the Chinese man you have to go back gotta go back if you got the virus you got to go back
01:46:47.000Yeah, and just like... China's developing those countries to be nice.
01:46:52.000In the spirit of mutual aid, not because China is doing Belt and Road Initiative and they're building political clout and they're extracting resources and it's not like there's a ton of abuse and basically like colonialism in Africa from China.
01:49:16.000Um, and he was my only, uh, grandparent who was Mexican.
01:49:21.000So, so yeah, probably about, I don't know if my, I haven't checked my 23 and me in a while, but it said I had like broadly like Southern European DNA.
01:49:30.000So I think that was the Spanish, uh, coin man.
01:49:34.000So Spanish flu originated in China as well.
01:50:47.000Michael the Archangel says had to drop bikini for you today big guy that beautiful eloquent rant was spot-on America first will save us Well, thank you very much.
01:56:14.000Yeah, where else would I find recipes other than super chatter setting them to me?
01:56:19.000yeah yeah definitely definitely could use yeah great idea Florida man says two weeks ago USA had only 13,000 ah yep Isaac says I'll cook for everyone at the streamer house that would be appreciated if you're a good cook mr. slippery says Nick's mom eats family style uh-huh yep
01:59:02.000modern monarchist says I am a pole okay even better than an Anglo of all cultures meds have number one aesthetics we have number one everything big guy nice try but hey didn't know coin man says hmm whitey is amazed at Sicilian gaba ghoul verbiage and Nigerian afro alike do you see the connection yeah white people are not cultured I do see the connection thanks for the ninja genie
01:59:28.000Delphric says they need to spice their food.
02:01:19.000Pearl spongebob Let me see Yeah, I should be that guy Maybe I'll put me I'll bring it up on stream later You'll have to you have to remind me on a future stream to pull up the picture what I'm thinking about but
02:01:47.000He would be like an anchovy he wears glasses sandy doesn't wear glasses Who went spongebob wears glasses?
02:04:12.000I don't know what you mean by that, but thanks for the Ninjagini.
02:04:17.000If anybody's getting their backside caught, you know who that's gonna be.
02:04:20.000If anybody's getting dumper checked, you know who that's gonna be.
02:04:24.000I don't know what you're implying there with catching Jaden's backside, but the only backside I'm checking out, you know, not in a weird way, but just in like a damn, just like a damn way.
02:07:33.000Maybe, you know, Jaden's got like a, you know, he looks a little younger than me, because he is younger than me, by like a minute anyway.
02:07:40.000But I've got more of like the, um, I've got more of like, you know, because I've got the beard, I've got more of like a, you know, more of like a masculine, like a George Clooney.
02:07:50.000Okay, Jaden can be the Justin Bieber of the movement, alright.
02:09:41.000I don't like to bring up the old feuds, but it's just so funny to me.
02:09:44.000So many of the people in the movement I used to beef with.
02:09:47.000Patrick Vince and Steve I had beef with when I first met all of them when I first met all of them the first time I talked to Vince was on a
02:10:00.000New Year's Eve stream with Baked Alaska.
02:10:03.000And me and Vince got into it over the Iranian protests.
02:10:05.000I don't know if you remember back in like 2018, New Year's Eve 2018.
02:10:11.000And me and Vince got in a big fight because Vince is like, you know, you kids and your video games, you need to get off your butts.
02:10:18.000And I was like, you know, you're a boomer and we got into it.
02:10:22.000I don't like to bring these things up because it's pointless.
02:10:42.000If you're a strong personality and you're a man, and you meet another strong personality, but you don't know them, there's like a natural tendency to be like, ah, who the fuck is this guy?
02:10:55.000I shouldn't be that way, but I think a lot of people kind of get that.
02:11:00.000I don't know if they were like that or if I was just, you know, a young and, you know, pugnacious guy, maybe a little impulsive, but it was just funny because I, you know, I love these guys.
02:11:53.000But to see, but in any case, to see Steve and Jake and Vince and Jaden and Patrick and even a lot of the Groypers.
02:12:01.000To see everybody get on DLive and they've all kind of found their own niche and they all kind of have their own style and their own audience.
02:12:12.000What I love is, it's not like everybody's just doing America First.
02:12:16.000I mean, we're all part of America First, but, you know, Steve has his own style, and Jaden has his own thing, and Patrick has his own thing, you know, Jaden's gaming, and Patrick is doing these commentary streams, and, you know, he does gaming and some other things, and they've all kind of got their own perspective and their own, so I really like to see it.
02:13:35.000doesn't get it i love my gf is amazing but sometimes she cooks me a flavor of pie that i don't like oh bro dude tell me about it uh let's see moose mouths the satirical man is tucker carlson love you brah well if he is don't dox him gardener says so feisty yikes my bad
02:14:01.000Greek salad says, sorry for the LARP, just thought I should point out.
02:18:19.000I heard about something that happened in a group chat today where somebody posted a group DM on Twitter, a conversation that he had with his girlfriend.
02:18:43.000Okay, first of all, what's the matter with you?
02:18:46.000Okay, he posts in a group DM with the fellas a conversation, a text conversation he had with his girlfriend.
02:18:52.000As if that's bad enough, the GF's contact name is Hun.
02:21:52.000Yeah, Molly Tibbetts' father didn't even... Okay, think about Molly Tibbetts' father and then think about, you know, these prospects again.
02:22:01.000Marilyn Groy versus Franson got a hundred thousand lemons last night.
02:23:18.000Fart sniffer says the man from incel fuck normies and gf havers so true dude and that's always the biggest tell The tell is not having a gf.
02:23:28.000The tell is always talking about your gf.
02:23:31.000That's always how I know Dude, you know when you're having a conversation with the guys and it's like my gf the other day was like blah blah blah blah blah Okay.
02:23:40.000Yeah banned you're out of the group chat, you know
02:23:44.000Dude, my wife did the funniest thing yesterday.
02:23:49.000I remember in high school, that's what it always was.
02:23:51.000When I was in high school and I told you the story about my best friend who turned into a simp, he would always do this, but in a much worse way.
02:23:58.000I kid you not, there was one time I distinctly remember in like my sophomore year of high school.
02:24:03.000This is like what woke me up, so to speak.
02:25:09.000Was that really such a blow to like your ego and your self confidence?
02:25:14.000And that's not exactly what's happening here.
02:25:16.000That's not really what's happening here.
02:25:17.000But that's sort of when I woke up and I was like, dude, like now.
02:25:22.000All the way later I mean they broke up and now he's like devastated so that's you know well yeah how'd that really work out you know guess you don't have the GF anymore so where do you get your sense of identity itself but that kind of thing that like that I don't know what it is compulsion to bring up the wife the GF you know for that reason or other reasons it's just like it's demonstrative of somebody who doesn't get it