America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Culture Wars feat. Mister Metokur | America First Ep. 207

00:00:04.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:05.000 You are watching America First.

00:00:06.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:00:08.000 We've got a great show for you tonight.

00:00:10.000 Joining us this evening, we have a very, very special guest.

00:00:14.000 I think we've been on a few streams together before, but this is his first time on the show, Mr. Medeker.

00:00:20.000 How are you doing, Jim?

00:00:22.000 I'm doing great.

00:00:23.000 Having a good Wednesday.

00:00:25.000 I hope you're having a good one as well.

00:00:27.000 Yes, yes, definitely.

00:00:28.000 Well, it's great to have you.

00:00:30.000 You're one of the most requested guests that our audience asked for, and we've got a huge lineup this week, so we're glad to have you.

00:00:37.000 And yeah, it's been an okay Wednesday for me.

00:00:40.000 I was up all night last night.

00:00:42.000 I was going to go out and distribute these Papa John's flyers, but the buddy who I was going with got new dogs or something, so he didn't want to go all the way downtown.

00:00:50.000 So I had to shut it down.

00:00:52.000 I was sleeping all day, and I only woke up a couple of hours ago.

00:00:56.000 But we're excited to have you here, and it's going to be a fun show.

00:00:59.000 It's going to be high energy.

00:01:00.000 And I believe the first time that we spoke, because you've never been on the show, but the first time that we spoke was on that Lauren Southern stream with Destiny, correct, back in the fall?

00:01:11.000 Yeah, that would be reaching back there, but I believe that's the first one, yeah.

00:01:16.000 Yeah, good times, good times.

00:01:18.000 Well, yeah, like I said, it's the first time we've really interacted kind of one on one here.

00:01:22.000 I know you're more of like a YouTuber, I'm more on like the proper political side of Twitter.

00:01:27.000 But one of the first things I want to talk to you about, just really briefly, I don't want to spend too much time on it, but we were both on the Ralph Retort stream last week or two weeks ago.

00:01:37.000 It was Ralph Retort, and he was having on Paul Nealon, and I think Patrick Little was on there briefly.

00:01:43.000 And I know I jumped on there, everybody I think saw, and it got pretty nasty pretty quickly with me.

00:01:49.000 But then I caught you.

00:01:50.000 I think you came on immediately after, a little bit afterwards, and you kind of gave him the proper Medicare interrogation.

00:01:58.000 You know, I think you were fair enough where you can't really call it an interrogation.

00:02:02.000 But nevertheless.

00:02:03.000 Yeah, I thought it was very cordial with Mr. Nealon. 0.96

00:02:07.000 But yeah, just listening to his answers and kind of hearing about his political stances, I found it a little strange that he would consider himself a counter-Semite and then have a Jewish manager. 0.71

00:02:17.000 And then, you know, advocate kind of a core white family unit.

00:02:20.000 And then he's married to a Mexican woman. 0.57

00:02:22.000 So I thought that was a little weird.

00:02:25.000 So I just, you know, I kind of asked some questions relating to that.

00:02:28.000 And then some basic, I guess, political stances of his.

00:02:30.000 We didn't get a chance to talk too much, maybe about 20 minutes or so.

00:02:35.000 Right.

00:02:35.000 Yeah.

00:02:36.000 I caught it just a little bit ago.

00:02:37.000 I watched the whole thing.

00:02:39.000 And what I'm just fascinated by is the fact that we've got this internet coalition.

00:02:43.000 I think this is what you were stressing on that show we have this large internet coalition.

00:02:50.000 Of largely anonymous people, you know, and especially during the 2016 election on 4chan, on Reddit, on the various image boards and social media, there was a real political force.

00:03:00.000 I mean, you look at a guy like Ricky Vaughn in the case of Paul Nealon, it's a pretty good contrast where somebody like Ricky Vaughn, who is anonymous, was able to affect this great, great political change as one individual anonymous Twitter account.

00:03:15.000 And I thought it was just a very interesting compare and contrast between the people that are out there and their basically poll incarnate.

00:03:23.000 And they consist of all the memes, all the talking points, all the, you know, some of the absurdities and paradoxes of it.

00:03:31.000 And I just thought that was a very interesting contrast the effectiveness and the look of what it's like in real life running for office as these two candidates were or what it was online.

00:03:41.000 I mean, do you think there is something about the fact or the nature of being anonymous, of being online, that in this day and age is more effective politically?

00:03:50.000 Because I just thought that was a very interesting idea that you kind of brought up with him.

00:03:54.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I break my answer down into two parts.

00:03:57.000 One, yeah, I think anonymity online definitely played a crucial role.

00:04:00.000 It's a large factor in, I guess you could call it propagandizing.

00:04:05.000 They're able to get a message out.

00:04:07.000 They're able to deliver a concise message in a way that resonates with people.

00:04:12.000 And really, it comes down to who's funnier, the better memes, I guess.

00:04:18.000 But that helps facilitate getting a message out for a candidate.

00:04:22.000 I think that played a large role in the election, from anti Hillary to pro Trump.

00:04:26.000 I think that definitely had an effect.

00:04:28.000 And I think anonymity helped. 1.00

00:04:30.000 If you're identified and you try to do a lot of what was done, You're just going to get hammered into the fucking dirt. 0.99

00:04:36.000 I mean, we saw that with the kid that tweeted out it was like a wrestling gift that was altered. 0.99

00:04:41.000 It had Trump in there, and CNN was right on him saying that if you do this, we're going to release your information and write up a story on you.

00:04:48.000 But because you promised not to do it anymore, we're going to sweep it under the rug.

00:04:52.000 We're going to forget about it.

00:04:54.000 As far as the viability of candidates like Little or Nealon, I mean, I don't want to try to undercut the effect they had.

00:05:03.000 I mean, Little was running in California, correct?

00:05:06.000 Correct.

00:05:06.000 Yeah.

00:05:07.000 And I mean, people will make fun of him and say, well, he only got 1% of the vote. 0.98

00:05:10.000 Well, you couldn't go to a more liberal, democratic, blue fucking state than California. 0.94

00:05:15.000 The fact that he even got 1% is impressive on its own, coupled with the message he was preaching. 0.98

00:05:21.000 It really actually surprised me.

00:05:22.000 And I think Nealan got, was it 15% against Poleni in 2016?

00:05:26.000 Or am I wrong on that?

00:05:27.000 Well, yeah, but that was before he went full red pill. 1.00

00:05:30.000 He was more of a Moggapede at the time. 1.00

00:05:32.000 But you're right. 0.94

00:05:33.000 I mean, nevertheless, 15% of the primary.

00:05:36.000 Right, right.

00:05:36.000 And I think when you were talking to him, you brought that up, didn't you?

00:05:39.000 You said, you know, People were out door knocking for you.

00:05:41.000 They were getting your message out there.

00:05:42.000 And then you kind of changed stances after we kind of got your name out there to the point where that 15% that was built up might be jeopardized now if you were to run in the future.

00:05:53.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:05:54.000 Completely evaporated, I'm sure.

00:05:56.000 I know the people that I was one of the door knockers and I knew the people that were among them and the people we were knocking on the doors of.

00:06:03.000 I know the new message would probably not appeal as explicit as it is, right?

00:06:10.000 Maybe not in Wisconsin, yeah.

00:06:12.000 Yeah, yeah, probably.

00:06:13.000 Maybe not as much in Wisconsin, but again, I mean, it is interesting that they were able to take in the numbers they could.

00:06:19.000 What would Nealon pull in the future?

00:06:20.000 I don't know.

00:06:21.000 If Patrick Little changed his message, would he pull in more of a percentage?

00:06:25.000 Probably not. 0.96

00:06:26.000 But, you know, again, 1% in California with the message that he had is that, in my opinion, a victory considering what he's fucking dealing with in that particular state. 0.80

00:06:38.000 Yeah, it was an interesting experiment. 0.89

00:06:38.000 Right. 0.89

00:06:40.000 And, you know, I do think a lot of it had to do with.

00:06:43.000 The fact that he ran as a civil rights advocate.

00:06:45.000 You know, because I imagine in a state like California, it's obviously the largest state, I think, by population and a large minority population.

00:06:54.000 Well, I don't even think it's fair to call the minority in California the majority. 0.64

00:06:58.000 You know, it's a minority white state running as a civil rights advocate. 0.95

00:07:02.000 I think that that was actually an intelligent, a clever kind of a trick, but definitely an interesting experiment.

00:07:08.000 And I bring it up the nature of anonymity and these kinds of things because I think that's a big part of people like your effectiveness.

00:07:16.000 And other YouTubers, other people that are making change, because you see what people are up against, like myself and others who are out there and we've got our faces out.

00:07:26.000 Once you kind of manifest in the real world, once you can be identified and you have liabilities and things that people can look after or go after, I think it becomes a much different equation in terms of how you're able to parse out your message.

00:07:41.000 I mean, do you think that's a big part of it?

00:07:44.000 I think that's true to an extent.

00:07:45.000 I mean, take you for example.

00:07:47.000 You're 19, right?

00:07:48.000 Correct.

00:07:49.000 I mean, you already have a Wikipedia page.

00:07:50.000 Like, your online footprint is cemented.

00:07:53.000 If you were to try to go anonymous past this, that's always going to be there.

00:07:57.000 You know what I mean?

00:07:58.000 Once you kind of come out and you kind of askew and throw away the anonymity, whether it's willingly or unwillingly, anonymity is almost like virginity. 0.99

00:08:09.000 You know, once you get fucked, there's no one fucking it. 0.98

00:08:12.000 So once it's out there, it's done with. 0.99

00:08:15.000 But yeah, no, I find anonymity to be an important, integral part of the internet.

00:08:20.000 I mean, it has been since its inception from message boards to image boards and onward.

00:08:26.000 I mean, it's always been something that has allowed people to speak freely.

00:08:29.000 And when you take that away, It just seems like a bad idea to me.

00:08:33.000 I know a lot of social media platforms, a lot of conglomerates and corporations want to strip it away.

00:08:38.000 Facebook and the Twitters and all of them want as much information as they can get.

00:08:42.000 If you want a Gmail account, you need to give them your phone number.

00:08:47.000 And before that, it was an address and a name and just ridiculous amounts of information because for some reason they're terrified of the idea of an anonymous user base.

00:08:55.000 I mean, you can see this in comment sections on websites, from news sites to even scientific journals, where they've either done away with anonymous comments.

00:09:04.000 Or they're asking for a real ID identification to actually be able to post comments now on certain websites.

00:09:09.000 So there's a change taking place.

00:09:12.000 And I don't think we should be pushing it along.

00:09:15.000 I think we should be dragging our feet as much as we can and enjoying it while we can because 10 years from now, 20 years from now, kids growing up on the internet will probably look back and be like, holy shit, you could be anonymous online. 0.98

00:09:25.000 That's fucking wild. 0.98

00:09:27.000 Yeah, well, it's true. 0.99

00:09:28.000 And I think why that's so integral is because of how the system is.

00:09:32.000 Well, we know that's why it's so integral because.

00:09:36.000 We are in a place such that if you go against the mainstream, and even it's gotten to the point where, and this is something I think you explore in a lot of your videos, if you're not on board with things that are absolute lunacy, that things 10 years ago would have been thought ridiculous, you're the subject of ridicule among peers, among employers, among other kinds of people.

00:09:56.000 And so it's almost a necessity to express a dissident opinion.

00:09:59.000 And I really wanted to get into this kind of a subject because we're at a point right now, and this is kind of the broader topic I wanted to talk to you about, is we're at a point right now where This dissident movement, and I don't even want to describe it as right wing or left wing, but just really kind of dissent against whatever like neoliberal kind of postmodern atmosphere we're in, where we're kind of at a weird place in this area of dissent.

00:10:25.000 I think this is something a lot of people are feeling because, in many ways, I think we were all unified in 2016, and people like yourself, people like me, people like even Neil, and people like the alt right or the alt light or even ostensibly establishment right wing people.

00:10:42.000 We're all kind of on the same team.

00:10:43.000 We were all against the SJW type. 1.00

00:10:46.000 We were all against that kind of thing.

00:10:49.000 And now it feels like there's a lot of confusion.

00:10:52.000 It feels like people call it infighting, people call it counter signaling or punching right or whatever, but there isn't really a clear idea of what the direction is, what we're going for.

00:11:03.000 And so I look at somebody like yourself where I don't think you're necessarily a totally political person.

00:11:09.000 I think all of your, most of your YouTube content is for entertainment, it's for humor.

00:11:14.000 And I see how you interact with JF and others, and it's mostly just about how do we get laughs?

00:11:19.000 How do we get views and drama?

00:11:21.000 And there's nothing wrong with that.

00:11:23.000 But we're forced, people like yourself are forced, I think, to almost take like a quasi political stance in this day and age, right?

00:11:32.000 And so I just want to kind of get an idea, pick your brain a little bit about what you think the state of this movement, if you could even call it that, is right now.

00:11:40.000 Because I'm feeling like we're very confused at the moment.

00:11:44.000 Well, I would hesitate to call it a movement or even use.

00:11:48.000 Sorry, I've got a bit of a cold, so you have to bear with me.

00:11:50.000 I'm sorry.

00:11:50.000 Or even use something like We.

00:11:52.000 I mean, you've got so many different groups that kind of came together to accomplish a pretty specific set of goals around 2015, 2016.

00:12:00.000 You saw a really hard pushback against SJWs, which I think we kind of saw in multiple ways.

00:12:07.000 But you also saw kind of a push in politics.

00:12:09.000 You know, Trump represented this idea that he was an establishment, he was going to drain the swamp.

00:12:14.000 And so you had all these different groups kind of come together from, you know, an image board like 4chan to something like Reddit, where it's more user based and, you know, there's more ID tied to it.

00:12:24.000 So, you.

00:12:25.000 It's these different communities kind of commingling to accomplish something.

00:12:28.000 And then once that thing has been accomplished, infighting usually is going to take place.

00:12:32.000 I don't want to comment on it because I don't identify as it.

00:12:36.000 And it would feel kind of dickish for me to sit here and say, well, you guys should do this and you guys should do that when I'm not you guys, sitting here and chastising you or giving you pointers on what to do.

00:12:45.000 But I think you'll find more cohesion, I guess, as the next election cycle kicks in.

00:12:51.000 And people will set aside whatever their differences are for that moment, at least to do something.

00:12:57.000 But I think it speaks to the perceived threat of this kind of super hyper liberal SJW leftist mentality that these kind of groups could even come together in the first place. 1.00

00:13:09.000 And now that they're kind of dissipating a little bit, I think it kind of signals that at least there might be a bit of a shift taking place where even regular people at this point now recognize that, you know, holy shit, these liberal professors are fucking crazy. 0.99

00:13:24.000 These students that are coming out of universities are a little nutty. 0.99

00:13:27.000 Corporations have taken it too far with their policies. 0.99

00:13:30.000 And I think that that's made people relax a little bit because now they don't feel like we have to put up a unified front and go after this because now more people are recognizing the same shit they recognized years in advance. 0.98

00:13:42.000 I guess that would be my take on that. 0.97

00:13:43.000 Yeah, no, I agree with that.

00:13:44.000 I do feel like there is kind of an opening.

00:13:47.000 And this is something I saw or something I've been seeing a lot people kind of reanalyzing the Trump election, reanalyzing 2016, and saying, you know, it wasn't so much about Trump.

00:13:58.000 In many ways, there was a.

00:14:00.000 Political impetus for somebody like Trump in the sense that people were outraged about immigration, people were outraged about trade, but generally it was just an anti establishment.

00:14:11.000 It was just a negation of what was happening as opposed to a positive vision of, well, it's, I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Trump, but I feel like generally speaking, it was more of a cultural rejection of the establishment.

00:14:24.000 And I think that's a good way that you phrase it in terms of where even regular people were saying, we don't want this hyper liberal system and And if that makes us bedfellows with the right wing, if that makes us bedfellows with these people who are saying extreme things on image boards, well, you know, we're all kind of working against the same people.

00:14:43.000 We all, you know, the enemy of the enemy is my friend, sort of a deal.

00:14:45.000 And I do think that we are making a shift in a big way.

00:14:50.000 It's kind of difficult, though, because you see that there is a shift taking place.

00:14:54.000 And by the same token, while I think people are moving away from this kind of political correctness, social justice mentality, by the same token, I think there is.

00:15:04.000 Like a counter reaction or a counter revolution by the establishment that's taking place.

00:15:10.000 And I think you've covered a lot of these topics.

00:15:11.000 You talk about like the bully hunters.

00:15:13.000 You talked about, I saw your Pokemon video about the Bulbapedia or that Pokemon thing.

00:15:20.000 Do you feel like there's like a counter reaction happening against that?

00:15:24.000 I feel like there's almost this frenzy on the part of the left because they sense that this is happening.

00:15:30.000 Yeah, I mean, they're trying to claw and dig their way back.

00:15:33.000 Yeah, I mean, I think they notice a shift taking place too.

00:15:35.000 And so you're kind of seeing.

00:15:37.000 Well, I mean, as they put it, the resistance, you know, this ridiculous notion of we're going to fight conservatism or the alt right or anything that's not us tooth and nail on any platform that we can.

00:15:48.000 You kind of see it popping up.

00:15:50.000 But I think when you start to see a cultural shift take place, whether it's to the left or to the right, once that begins, you can't undo it. 0.99

00:15:57.000 And the left can kick and scream all they fucking want.

00:16:00.000 But once it kind of starts to do that shift, you've got a good, I'd say, decade of breathing room as that shift takes place. 1.00

00:16:07.000 I mean, they could go march in the fucking streets. 0.99

00:16:09.000 Antifa can dress in black and break windows. 0.99

00:16:11.000 They can throw tantrums on universities, but I think the general populace has become familiar enough now with it that they just look at it with almost kind of a disdain or disgust.

00:16:21.000 And I think the kids growing up, you know, younger ones in elementary and junior high kind of look at it and they're like, we don't want to be like that. 0.96

00:16:29.000 These people are the ass end of every joke on the internet.

00:16:31.000 We don't want to be made fun of to that degree. 0.99

00:16:34.000 Well, yeah, no, that's what really gives me hope.

00:16:34.000 Right.

00:16:36.000 I've been talking a lot about this on my show.

00:16:38.000 I gave a speech about it, Generation Z. I'm a big believer because.

00:16:43.000 You know, we tend to look at Hollywood, us older people.

00:16:47.000 I'm technically Generation Z, but I don't know.

00:16:50.000 It's kind of difficult.

00:16:50.000 I was very either late millennial or earlier Generation Z.

00:16:54.000 So I still kind of remember what it was like before the ubiquity of the internet.

00:16:58.000 But I think older people tend to look at Hollywood.

00:17:01.000 They tend to look at television, legacy media.

00:17:04.000 But if you look at what's on the internet, whether it's someone like PewDiePie or the various Twitch streamers or the kind of things that they're consuming, it's not necessarily political, but it is.

00:17:15.000 As you're describing this kind of cultural resistance to just the horrible things that are happening on the left that are just obviously objects of ridicule.

00:17:23.000 So, I mean, do you see the same kind of hope for Generation Z that I do?

00:17:27.000 Do you see the same trends or do you think that's kind of a myth? 0.85

00:17:31.000 Well, I think when you start to do generational analysis, right, one of the things that always fascinated me is a lot of people like to blame the boomers, but I think a heavy burden should be laid on the shoulders of Gen X. 0.54

00:17:42.000 I think Gen X, you know, the latchkey kids, that kind of generation, We were almost apathetic. 0.98

00:17:47.000 They kind of just fucking tuned everything out. 0.86

00:17:50.000 And so they weren't as active or empathetic as they should have been to the current climate and just kind of let things metastasize into this overgrowth of cancer that really just overtook the millennials. 0.98

00:18:02.000 That would be my first thing.

00:18:03.000 As far as Gen Z, I don't know.

00:18:06.000 I mean, I see a lot of crazy stuff happening.

00:18:08.000 If you look at gaming, if you look at something like Overwatch that has a ton of players, I mean, they're banning toxic players.

00:18:14.000 They're setting up policies where if you say something mean about somebody outside of the game, they'll ban you.

00:18:19.000 You know, you look at a platform like Twitch where most of these kids go to watch their content, and, you know, a Twitch streamer is basically held at gunpoint.

00:18:26.000 They're a hostage to the terms of service that are on that platform.

00:18:30.000 So I think that Gen Z is aware of that as they watch these, you know, different content creators that they like, and they watch because, you know, they're not really doing anything political.

00:18:38.000 They're just telling jokes.

00:18:40.000 And so they're watching and they're thinking, well, why is this guy getting banned?

00:18:43.000 Or why is this guy getting censored?

00:18:44.000 Or why is his stream getting pulled down? 0.98

00:18:46.000 Or why are they fucking with him? 1.00

00:18:48.000 And it probably, you know, starts to build up feelings in them of, well, that's fucking gay. 1.00

00:18:53.000 So, again, it kind of plays back into that original point of they don't want to be like that. 0.99

00:18:57.000 I don't know what their politics are going to be, but I don't think they're going to be a PC generation.

00:19:01.000 I don't think they're going to be politically correct in any way, shape, or form as we've known it previously.

00:19:07.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:19:08.000 I agree.

00:19:08.000 And it's interesting because as somebody who's Generation Z, you can kind of see the difference where online the behavior is somewhat different, at least for my class, you know, people around my age, than the in real life behavior.

00:19:21.000 Because a lot of, you know, it's tough because I know a lot of people who watch this show.

00:19:25.000 Many of them are Generation Z, and they'll say, well, some of their friends are very PC, but some of their friends are not so PC.

00:19:32.000 I tend to see online, it's very much uniform that it's against, and IRL, it's a little bit different.

00:19:39.000 But anyway, I think we've talked enough about that subject.

00:19:41.000 What I really wanted to pick your brain about this week this is the hot topic on everyone's mind, which is the James Gunn thing and all that's going on in Hollywood.

00:19:51.000 Justin Roiland, Dan Harmon.

00:19:54.000 I mean, how perfect is it that we find out the Rick and Morty television show, the two co creators?

00:19:59.000 And I think everybody could kind of see this if you knew Dan Harmon, if you've ever seen him before, you know, that they were going to be these kinds of sickos.

00:20:06.000 I mean, what do you make of all this?

00:20:08.000 Do you think that there's actually something going on there as somebody who is a humorist yourself?

00:20:13.000 Do you see it as jokes?

00:20:15.000 I think I can kind of guess your take on this, but what are you feeling this week?

00:20:20.000 Well, with like Harmon and Royland or whatever his name is, the Rick and Morty guys.

00:20:24.000 I saw the baby rape video that Harmon did, and I saw, I think it was like an image or a video that Royland made of Barron Trump naked.

00:20:33.000 Yeah, right. 0.69

00:20:34.000 Playing VR or doing something weird like that.

00:20:37.000 My personal opinion is I don't think they're pedophiles. 0.95

00:20:41.000 I think it's just really shitty, edgy humor. 0.75

00:20:45.000 Now, what I do find interesting, and I think this plays a lot into what we're seeing right now, is for a very long time on the internet, if you made a joke that was even a little bit racist or homophobic or transphobic, and you're on the right, what's going to happen? 0.99

00:21:01.000 They're going to track down where you fucking work. 0.99

00:21:03.000 They're going to track down your name and they're going to get your ass fired. 1.00

00:21:06.000 They're going to try to just ruin your life. 0.99

00:21:10.000 And now I see that being turned around on them.

00:21:12.000 It's like using the same rules of war, right?

00:21:15.000 The right was subjected to this for years on social media platforms. 0.99

00:21:18.000 If you told something that was a little off color, but it was just a joke, no, no, you're a racist, you're a homophobe, you're a transphobe, we need to deal with you. 0.98

00:21:26.000 But now the left is facing that. 0.97

00:21:28.000 People are digging through timelines, right, with Harmon and Royland and all of that.

00:21:32.000 Right.

00:21:33.000 And they're finding these examples of, if it is humor, humor, and saying, oh my God, look how terrible this is.

00:21:38.000 These people make cartoons that kids can watch, they work for a big corporation, they shouldn't be allowed to do that.

00:21:43.000 And I see all these leftists bitching about it.

00:21:45.000 And I'm like, where was your outrage when that was happening to people on the right? 0.99

00:21:49.000 I didn't see you standing up for Milo Yiannopoulos when he was making edgy jokes at McGillagorilla, what the fuck her name is from Ghostbusters. 0.98

00:21:57.000 Right? 0.97

00:21:57.000 I didn't see you jump in and say, no, no, it's just humor, relax. 0.97

00:22:00.000 No, you wanted his ass exiled from Twitter. 0.99

00:22:03.000 So I find that a bit funny, a little bit of irony in that. 0.98

00:22:08.000 As far as James Gunn goes, I don't know what's going on with that. 0.99

00:22:11.000 I saw some fucking crazy tweets. 0.96

00:22:12.000 I think Mike Cernovich had archived some. 0.99

00:22:15.000 Because he went through, didn't he delete like 10,000 tweets?

00:22:18.000 Yes, 10,000.

00:22:19.000 10,000 after the initial like 25 or whatever were exposed.

00:22:23.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:24.000 No, people should be aware that people in media, Hollywood, TV, movies, cartoons, all of that, they're scared shitless right now. 0.99

00:22:33.000 After that Me Too stuff, they are looking over their fucking shoulder. 0.99

00:22:37.000 So if you find anything that's even remotely questionable, they're going to shit bricks. 0.98

00:22:43.000 So it kind of makes me curious if people are going to start digging through celebrity timelines and Instagrams and Facebooks. 0.99

00:22:48.000 Because I'm sure you'd find all sorts of shit on there. 0.99

00:22:51.000 But I mean, even a more recent example, wasn't it Roseanne Barr made an edgy joke, a racist joke, and her fucking show was stripped away from her? 0.99

00:22:59.000 So, you know, I don't have a lot of sympathy for Dan Harmon bitching that people tried to get his show ripped away from him for making, you know, a baby fucking joke. 0.99

00:22:59.000 Yep. 0.99

00:23:08.000 You know, it seems what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

00:23:13.000 I mean, I saw somebody, some journalist, some effing journalist who said, She was like, Oh, well, when right wing people were making jokes and Nazi jokes, the right was like, Oh, it's just humor.

00:23:13.000 Well, yeah, exactly.

00:23:24.000 But now on the left, it does it.

00:23:26.000 They're all over us. 1.00

00:23:27.000 It's like, No shit. 0.99

00:23:28.000 Because every time we do it, whether it's Roseanne Barr or even if it's somebody, you know, I think back to like 2012, Mitt Romney, he said like binders full of women. 0.99

00:23:37.000 And do you remember how people seized on that? 0.97

00:23:40.000 Like to me, that was like, to me, a perfectly appropriate phrase, by the way.

00:23:44.000 But let's say you're some kind of political consultant, it's like, well, it doesn't sound quite right, you know.

00:23:49.000 But they took that and they made it on Wikipedia now as one of the major blunders of the election.

00:23:53.000 You look at that, you look at things that we say which are completely innocuous, and these people are making jokes of like where Dan Harmon is.

00:24:01.000 Is simulating the rape of a baby where James Gunn, Michael Ian Black, and it's not like a few jokes in these cases, it's like 30, 40, dozens upon dozens of jokes about molesting children.

00:24:13.000 We call them out, we get them fired, and then they suddenly cry foul.

00:24:16.000 Exactly.

00:24:17.000 You know, it's good for the goose, good for the baby.

00:24:19.000 Well, it's not even just blatant jokes, right?

00:24:22.000 The left likes to use the term dog whistling.

00:24:24.000 Right.

00:24:25.000 So even if something is perceived to be potentially offensive, that's problematic. 0.88

00:24:29.000 If you're posting a Pepe, you must be a deplorable. 0.96

00:24:31.000 You must be one of those alt right neo Nazis. 1.00

00:24:33.000 We need to get rid of you. 0.99

00:24:35.000 So, you know, again, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the left.

00:24:39.000 And also, I guess I should apologize.

00:24:41.000 Your chat said this is a family friendly show.

00:24:43.000 So I'll try to tone down the F bombs for the soccer moms listening right now.

00:24:48.000 That's what it is.

00:24:49.000 You got to imagine, Jim, it's families huddled around their television screen.

00:24:49.000 It is a family.

00:24:54.000 They've got America First tuned in on the dial.

00:24:57.000 They're sitting around with their TV dinner.

00:24:59.000 So you got to keep it PG.

00:25:00.000 I'm sure many people have, many of the families have told the kids to go to bed.

00:25:05.000 But I'm sure they're.

00:25:07.000 They're terrified, yep, huddling around asking their parents what those mean words mean.

00:25:11.000 But they tried to move past it.

00:25:13.000 But, well, no, that's a great point that you make about dog whistling because I can't tell you how many times, because I watch my language very carefully.

00:25:13.000 Right.

00:25:21.000 I've grown up in the PC generation.

00:25:23.000 Like when I was in elementary school, if you called African Americans black, you were called a racist.

00:25:30.000 This was the environment I grew up in.

00:25:33.000 And so I watch very carefully what I say.

00:25:35.000 But I can't tell you how many times I've gotten an interviewer.

00:25:38.000 Or somebody who's filming me for something, or some journalist tell me, well, you might not say bad things, but are you aware that the people watching your show are racist?

00:25:48.000 Or, well, the KKK said the same thing like 20 years ago?

00:25:52.000 Or, you know, people who are racist might like your content.

00:25:55.000 And then when it comes around with these people and they're making jokes about molesting children in the case of Justin Roiland, drawing pictures of children's genitals, it's all in good humor.

00:26:05.000 You know, it's all jokes.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, it's all fun and games.

00:26:09.000 You know, that leads me to another point, I guess, kind of semi related to this.

00:26:12.000 You remember the ad.

00:26:13.000 Apocalypse and all the YouTubers were flipping out about the loss of revenue because these advertisers had seen videos that were extremists, as they put it.

00:26:20.000 Right.

00:26:20.000 And they wanted to censor what they were, they were not, I shouldn't say censor.

00:26:23.000 They just wanted to have more say over what they advertised on and wanted to be sure that certain things were taken off the platform.

00:26:29.000 So it amazes me that a company like a Nike or Adidas or a Pepsi or a Coke would have that much say in YouTube.

00:26:37.000 But then when I'm thinking of, you know, Harmon and the advertisers on his show, where's their outrage that he's posting baby rape videos?

00:26:44.000 You know, where are they saying, hey, wait a minute now? 0.56

00:26:47.000 If we can't let that alt writer put up a risque video on YouTube, we probably shouldn't be backing and supporting financially the guy putting up the baby rape videos.

00:26:57.000 Well, and even with Rick and Morty, the perfect example is Sam Hyde, where Sam Hyde's Million Dollar Extreme was on Adult Swim, and they were wildly successful in their first season.

00:26:57.000 Right.

00:27:08.000 I think they had a million views on their first show, a million views on their last show.

00:27:12.000 Was it like 3 a.m. after Eric Andre?

00:27:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:16.000 It was really good.

00:27:17.000 I actually really liked that show, and I think a lot of what that Came down to was I got a Tim Heidecker.

00:27:23.000 Yep.

00:27:23.000 I think Tim Heidecker absolutely went behind the scenes.

00:27:26.000 I think Tim Heidecker used his connections to get Sam Hyde thrown off that platform.

00:27:31.000 I truly believe that.

00:27:32.000 I think he undermined him.

00:27:34.000 And I think he was integral in getting him kicked off. 0.98

00:27:37.000 And I think it's crap because I think the show was good. 0.93

00:27:41.000 It was bringing in a lot of viewers. 0.99

00:27:43.000 And it's ridiculous, but kind of all around, in my opinion. 0.88

00:27:47.000 Well, yeah. 0.88

00:27:47.000 I mean, the hypocrisy of it in that case where, and this was a funny show. 0.88

00:27:51.000 I mean, I was showing this to my mom the other day.

00:27:54.000 We were sitting around watching World Peace.

00:27:57.000 And this was a great show that has influenced, I can't tell you, thousands and thousands of people.

00:28:02.000 I was just thinking about it this morning.

00:28:04.000 I don't think you could find a single right wing person on Twitter.com whose comedy or their humor has not been influenced by Sam Hyde. 1.00

00:28:12.000 And if it wasn't, it's shit. 0.99

00:28:13.000 If it wasn't, they're a boomer and they're making jokes about how Obama was a Muslim socialist, you know, that kind of thing. 0.99

00:28:19.000 And so you look at that case where, and obviously there were extenuating circumstances there, but just on the face of it, where Sam Hyde, there's hidden swastikas, which is. 0.82

00:28:29.000 Total nonsense, but they say, oh, it's a racist show.

00:28:32.000 So they kick him off.

00:28:33.000 No opportunity.

00:28:34.000 He's blacklisted.

00:28:35.000 You'll never work again.

00:28:37.000 In the case of Dan Harmon, completely okay.

00:28:39.000 I don't know if he made a statement, but Adult Swim said, yeah, he's cool.

00:28:43.000 He'll be able to keep making Rick and Morty.

00:28:45.000 And it just tells you the inequity.

00:28:46.000 It just tells you what we're up against.

00:28:48.000 But, I mean, what do you think about Tim Heidegger, though?

00:28:51.000 Just on a side note, do you think he's funny?

00:28:53.000 Because I don't really get the Tim Heidegger thing.

00:28:56.000 You know, I liked some of the stuff he put out kind of on, I guess, early Adult Swim.

00:29:02.000 Because it was kind of a new thing.

00:29:05.000 Yeah, and in the beginning, I thought, I'm trying to remember, I think it was Tom Goes to the Mayor was pretty good.

00:29:10.000 But, you know, it's one of those things, and I'm not saying that Tim Heidecker is a hero here, but it's the only saying I can think of.

00:29:16.000 They say, don't meet your heroes. 0.99

00:29:18.000 You know, I probably would have continued thinking Tom Goes to the Mayor is pretty good if I didn't encounter what Tim Heidecker was like outside of his media that he creates, because he's kind of an asshole. 0.98

00:29:28.000 And it kind of ruins the content, the media that he creates, because then I think. 0.99

00:29:28.000 Right. 0.99

00:29:34.000 I can't stop thinking of him behind it.

00:29:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:36.000 Right.

00:29:37.000 Yeah.

00:29:37.000 Maybe that's the same way for me.

00:29:39.000 Yeah.

00:29:40.000 That's kind of my take on it, at least.

00:29:41.000 Yeah.

00:29:42.000 Because I see his comedy, and I think if you compare that with Sam Hyde, I think Sam Hyde does it better.

00:29:47.000 It's kind of the same style.

00:29:48.000 Well, it's, I don't know about the same style, but the same kind of tone, the same ironic kind of theme.

00:29:54.000 And I don't know.

00:29:55.000 I just never really got it.

00:29:57.000 But yeah, no, this pedophile thing or the double standard, I think those are kind of two separate issues.

00:30:02.000 On the one hand, it's the pedophilia, which I'm sure goes on in Hollywood.

00:30:06.000 And then on the other hand, it's a double standard.

00:30:08.000 But.

00:30:08.000 This is beautiful.

00:30:09.000 I'm absolutely sure that it goes on in Hollywood.

00:30:12.000 I mean, you had people like Corey Hame, or no, which Corey is it?

00:30:18.000 Is it Feldman?

00:30:18.000 Not Hame.

00:30:20.000 Yeah.

00:30:22.000 Constantly talk about it.

00:30:23.000 And he finally released one name.

00:30:24.000 I can't remember what it was, but it was a guy that worked kind of like an extra on, I think, Lost Boys and another movie that he worked on.

00:30:31.000 But he talked about it being kind of almost prolific in the industry.

00:30:35.000 I think even Yiannopoulos commented on it, saying that he'd been to some Hollywood parties and seen younger boys, teenage boys, at these.

00:30:43.000 And that it made him uncomfortable.

00:30:46.000 You know, it most definitely is something that goes on.

00:30:48.000 There's most definitely a culture related to it.

00:30:51.000 I really thought with the Me Too thing, we were going to see it break into that, but I guess it's too entrenched to really be dragged out into the light just yet.

00:31:00.000 You know, this is why people for years have been making jokes about Dan Schneider.

00:31:03.000 Right.

00:31:04.000 You know, it's almost, it kind of reminds me of Seth MacFarlane, right?

00:31:10.000 He made a lot of jokes about sexual assault on his show.

00:31:13.000 Regarding certain celebrities.

00:31:15.000 And then it, you know, because it was at that point where everybody's joking about it because everybody knows it's true.

00:31:21.000 And then it finally came out that, yeah, it is true.

00:31:23.000 So, right.

00:31:24.000 Kind of related to the pedophile culture in Hollywood, I think we're at the point where everybody's making jokes about it because everybody assumes it's true.

00:31:31.000 And eventually something's going to cascade that out and we're going to be like, wow. 0.97

00:31:34.000 You know, I never would have thought so and so was involved in this because I'll tell you, a year ago, I never would have thought that Kevin Spacey would be sitting next to a guy, you know, a valet and whipping his cock out and saying, boy, it looks big, doesn't it? 0.99

00:31:47.000 But, you know, color me shocked it fucking happened. 0.99

00:31:49.000 I'm sorry. 0.98

00:31:50.000 It happened, didn't it?

00:31:51.000 Yeah, right.

00:31:52.000 Well, I mean, That's the thing, I think everybody knows that it's going on.

00:31:57.000 And it's a weird thing that you bring up where it is this double think of it.

00:32:02.000 Once you know it's happening, but at the same time, you exist in a state where you're not totally convinced or maybe not totally conscious of it.

00:32:09.000 I don't think it really hits home with a lot of people.

00:32:12.000 But you're right.

00:32:13.000 Then in the case of Me Too, it was, well, I mean, we know that people are sleeping their way to the top.

00:32:17.000 We know there's probably rampant abuse.

00:32:19.000 And it was joked about so much.

00:32:21.000 And then we found out, oh, it's Bill Cosby, it's Kevin Spacey, it's all these people.

00:32:27.000 In many cases, very famous people.

00:32:29.000 My fear with the pedophilia thing is that it's pervasive all across many industries.

00:32:34.000 That's really my fear.

00:32:35.000 I mean, I'm really terrified that one day we're going to find that like half the members in Congress and people in government and people in Hollywood and all over the place.

00:32:45.000 Because to me, I think about the actors, and I don't mean actors in the sense of people who act in films, I mean like individuals in these institutions.

00:32:54.000 I think of these actors as people who are eccentric.

00:32:58.000 As people who have lots of power, people who have lots of clout.

00:33:01.000 And you think of the kind of individual who's in these positions, and you think, well, they have pretty eccentric tastes in many cases.

00:33:10.000 And so you think about these different characters where they get off on the power, they get off on this weird kind of stuff, they basically run the world.

00:33:18.000 And I think it's almost impossible that there wouldn't be that kind of parallel thing going on child trafficking, human trafficking, because these people who are in these positions say, well, I should have whatever I want.

00:33:29.000 And of course, that's going to include.

00:33:31.000 Sex and maybe it's maybe it's like just women, you know, as was the case with me too, or maybe it could be a little bit more evil than that. 0.61

00:33:38.000 And so, so that's really my thing.

00:33:40.000 I have no doubt we'll probably eventually encounter a, you know, a Weinstein version for kids.

00:33:45.000 You know what I mean?

00:33:46.000 Um, and I think you're right.

00:33:47.000 I mean, they, I can't really name you many child actors that grew up okay.

00:33:53.000 And I think for a long time people said, well, that's just the result of being exposed to fame.

00:33:57.000 But is it?

00:33:58.000 I mean, is it that these kids were exposed to fame and money that drove them to be insane?

00:34:02.000 When you look at like Amanda Bynes, when you look at Jamie Lee Spears, who got pregnant at like 12.

00:34:06.000 Right.

00:34:07.000 You look at a McCully Culkin who looks like a zombie, a walking corpse.

00:34:11.000 When you look at these people and their drug issues and their sex issues and their broken home lives and eccentric behavior and mental illnesses, is that really just a result of fame and money?

00:34:21.000 Or is there a bigger component to it?

00:34:23.000 Are they being exposed to predators that are basically taking advantage of them every single day?

00:34:28.000 And you'd have to imagine the kind of psychological impact that would have on you that you're famous for being on TV or in a movie, but every time you look at that TV show or that movie, You remember the guy that got you the job who you had to have sex with, who molested you.

00:34:42.000 And I could imagine that driving you crazy by the time you're 18 or 20. 0.67

00:34:47.000 Absolutely.

00:34:48.000 I think, well, and it's every case.

00:34:50.000 It would be one thing if it was a few isolated cases of child actors going off the rail, but it's, I mean, it's literally every single one.

00:34:57.000 And it's a very interesting transformation.

00:34:58.000 This is something I've noticed in particular where it always follows exactly the same pattern, which is to say that there is this period of they're a childhood actor, they're doing great, particularly with Disney.

00:35:11.000 And then they get this weird phase.

00:35:13.000 This happened to Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, all the rest, where they hit the mature phase, and then it's a BDSM music video.

00:35:21.000 In every case, how many times have you seen, and I've seen it enough times where I've noticed it, that it goes from sweet young girl making music to suddenly there's rubber involved, there's a whip, there's a BDSM thing.

00:35:35.000 And to me, that can't be a coincidence.

00:35:37.000 I mean, it's a little bit of a signal flare for you, is it? 0.96

00:35:40.000 I mean, yeah, Miley Cyrus, didn't she have a music video where she dressed up as a baby and talked about kinky sex? 0.98

00:35:45.000 I think so, yep. 0.88

00:35:46.000 Yeah, and that was, and the reaction to that was really funny because if I remember right, when that first came out, the dislikes were just massive.

00:35:54.000 And the amount of comments from her fans were like, What is what's going on?

00:35:57.000 What is this?

00:35:58.000 And you know, it was just another produced music video that was in line with her transformation from wholesome, uh, you know, American teenager to just drug abusing degenerate as an adult.

00:35:58.000 Right.

00:36:14.000 Very sick stuff.

00:36:15.000 Hopefully, we'll find that.

00:36:16.000 I mean, what did you think about the Pizzagate stuff?

00:36:18.000 I have to ask because I was a big Pizzagate guy, and I know a lot of people doubted it at the time.

00:36:23.000 They said, Oh, really?

00:36:24.000 They're running like a sex trafficking ring outside a pizza shop.

00:36:28.000 I was a big believer at the time, but now that this stuff is coming out, I mean, were you on the bandwagon back then?

00:36:35.000 Does it change the way you think about it now?

00:36:37.000 What was your take about all that?

00:36:39.000 Did I believe that there was a secret child prostitution ring hidden under a specific pizza shop?

00:36:44.000 No.

00:36:45.000 Did I think that there was some really strange stuff going on?

00:36:48.000 Absolutely.

00:36:49.000 The artwork that that particular owner had was very interesting.

00:36:53.000 The people he was connected to had some very bizarre tastes.

00:36:56.000 I remember that he gave an interview to a news outlet where he was talking about.

00:37:01.000 How they were claiming that he had a basement.

00:37:03.000 Yes.

00:37:03.000 And he didn't have a basement.

00:37:04.000 But then in another interview, he said, I do.

00:37:06.000 They were like, Where do you keep your items stored?

00:37:08.000 And he's like, Oh, in the basement.

00:37:10.000 So, you know, you put that together and you're like, Wait a minute.

00:37:12.000 You just told one guy you don't have a basement.

00:37:14.000 And then he told another reporter you do. 0.82

00:37:16.000 And you've got all these people that think you're in the middle of a child porn empire.

00:37:20.000 Maybe get your story straight before going on the evening news. 0.83

00:37:22.000 And you want to have people showing up with a gun outside your restaurant thinking that you're running a child porn empire.

00:37:28.000 Oh, and that was my only conviction during the Pizzagate thing, I don't think anybody knew exactly what was going on there, but it just.

00:37:35.000 There were so many things that did not add up.

00:37:37.000 And that was one of the biggest things for me.

00:37:40.000 It was a BBC interview where he said, Oh, we don't even have a basement.

00:37:43.000 And then in a totally separate interview, he said, We get our tomatoes shipped in and we like do something with them every day in the basement.

00:37:50.000 And I was like, Something's so wrong here.

00:37:53.000 And then what I found out just recently was that did you know this?

00:37:56.000 The guy that went in with the gun in the police report said that he went in, he found a computer, and then he shot the hard drive.

00:38:04.000 He ruined the hard drive in one of their computers.

00:38:07.000 That's what I've heard.

00:38:08.000 See, that doesn't make any sense.

00:38:10.000 If he was going to show up to get evidence, why would he shoot the hard drive?

00:38:12.000 Well, exactly.

00:38:14.000 Was it a false flag?

00:38:16.000 Was it a PSYOP?

00:38:17.000 I mean, it's just a lot of stuff that just doesn't matter.

00:38:17.000 Who knows?

00:38:20.000 We're getting into some Zerpruder film stuff here.

00:38:22.000 We're backing to the left with this.

00:38:24.000 But no, generally, where there's smoke, there's fire.

00:38:30.000 But there was a lot of really weird stuff surrounding that.

00:38:33.000 So I didn't come down hard on it.

00:38:35.000 Like, I've made fun of sovereign citizens, right?

00:38:37.000 People that are citing laws from the 1800s that aren't valid anymore.

00:38:40.000 Am I being detained?

00:38:42.000 Right.

00:38:42.000 Yeah.

00:38:43.000 Because I find that funny and they should know better.

00:38:46.000 But with stuff like this, where you're looking at it and there's some legitimately weird stuff going on, I didn't really come down hard on people because it's like, okay, well, he's giving conflicting statements.

00:38:54.000 Okay, well, they've got art that's really bizarre. 0.92

00:38:57.000 You know, they're posting pictures of some really weird shit. 0.99

00:39:00.000 And, you know, maybe it's completely innocent, but it sure as shit looks guilty. 0.99

00:39:04.000 So I didn't really begrudge people for looking into it. 0.76

00:39:07.000 Well, yeah.

00:39:07.000 Yeah.

00:39:07.000 My buddy who I was in school with, he was the.

00:39:10.000 Friend of mine who I used to shoot the original America First show in his dorm room.

00:39:15.000 And so we would talk about politics all the time.

00:39:17.000 And he was a philosophy matrix.

00:39:19.000 He would always tell me, you're using inductive reasoning.

00:39:22.000 That's not deductive reasoning.

00:39:23.000 That's inductive reasoning.

00:39:25.000 And that's why, and I go, I don't care.

00:39:26.000 It doesn't make any sense to me.

00:39:28.000 And there was the WikiLeaks.

00:39:30.000 It was all just very fishy.

00:39:31.000 But, I mean, do you tend to be conspiracy theorists?

00:39:34.000 Because I find, at least for myself, and this was the big thing for me, was during the 2016 election, they said Hillary's health was fine.

00:39:44.000 They said there was nothing wrong with it.

00:39:46.000 And in that moment, when I heard, I saw her collapse on 9 11.

00:39:50.000 We saw the coughing.

00:39:51.000 We saw all the issues.

00:39:52.000 And despite that, the entire media, with the exception of Fox News, and there's also one other very interesting exception about Fox News, if you look at who runs it, which differentiates it from the rest of media, where I said, you know what?

00:40:06.000 If there's like mass cover up going on with the media, with the government, I mean, we see it's happening and they're telling us it's not.

00:40:14.000 At that point, I really started to buy into stuff about Pizzagate, about Las Vegas, about all these other things.

00:40:19.000 Do you find yourself believing in conspiracy theories or do you find that generally it's just a lot of nonsense?

00:40:25.000 Well, you can't.

00:40:25.000 I browse X, which is the paranormal board, and they love conspiracy theories.

00:40:28.000 I mean, I like me a good conspiracy theory.

00:40:31.000 It doesn't mean I necessarily believe it.

00:40:33.000 But I'll give you a good example, though, of why you shouldn't dismiss it outright.

00:40:37.000 You talk to a lot of people nowadays about vaccines, and a lot of them get freaked out.

00:40:41.000 They're like, I don't want a vaccine.

00:40:42.000 I think it causes autism.

00:40:44.000 Now, I don't believe that personally.

00:40:46.000 But you follow up and ask the person a question.

00:40:48.000 You'd be like, well, why do you think that?

00:40:50.000 A government organization or a corporation would intentionally make you sick?

00:40:53.000 What benefit did they get from that?

00:40:55.000 And they don't really have a clear, concise answer.

00:40:58.000 But the truth is, that has happened before.

00:41:01.000 The United States government, using assets outside of the country, intentionally poisoned people with medicine to study the effects of syphilis on them.

00:41:09.000 It happened to a group called, I think it was like the, it was a group of African Americans, Tuskegee, something.

00:41:15.000 I can't remember the exact name.

00:41:17.000 But they injected them with syphilis and said it was vitamin C shots.

00:41:20.000 And then they refused to treat the syphilis because they wanted to see what happened.

00:41:23.000 And it went on for 30 or 40 years.

00:41:24.000 I think Bill Clinton addressed it during his presidency and apologized for it. 0.99

00:41:29.000 So, the U.S. government and corporations, they do do underhanded shady shit. 0.97

00:41:33.000 And I bet if you went back in time and you talked to people and said, Hey, don't get that vitamin C shot. 0.99

00:41:38.000 They're giving you syphilis. 0.99

00:41:39.000 People would probably be like, Oh, you're crazy, man. 1.00

00:41:42.000 That's insane.

00:41:43.000 But the government has done some really wild stuff before because it furthered their goal because they wanted to get information or they wanted to test something out.

00:41:50.000 Yeah.

00:41:51.000 Well, I mean, that was it for me, really, is.

00:41:54.000 That's the central point because most people hear a conspiracy theory, and I think that's the impulse.

00:42:00.000 People don't really look into it.

00:42:02.000 People don't even really consider it because they say, well, conspiracy theories, by the very connotation, are outlandish or fringe.

00:42:10.000 It's crazy people that tell them.

00:42:12.000 And who would be more reliable, your own government or some wacky guy on the internet?

00:42:17.000 But for me, it all really fell apart when they eliminated the benefit of the doubt.

00:42:22.000 Once you lose the benefit of the doubt for the media, for the government, once you understand.

00:42:27.000 Either by historical evidence or you look at something happening now that the government or the media is willing and able to lie or inflict terror attacks on their own people or inflict disease on their own people, then I think it's a totally different ballgame.

00:42:41.000 I think it really just changes the way people think.

00:42:43.000 So it's not so much like, well, I'm a conspiracy theorist now, so much as it is, well, we have to give a fair hearing to the government story and to the alternative theory.

00:42:53.000 And that really changed it all for me, as I said, we can no longer believe everything that we hear from the establishment.

00:43:00.000 Well, I think a lot of people that have used the internet at this point, regardless of the generation, have kind of started to take on the idea that the onus is on them, that you can't really trust anything anymore, whether that's media, the government, other users on the internet, a social media platform, because it always seems like we're getting lied to about something.

00:43:17.000 So it's not really far fetched to think that a lot of people doubt what they're told, regardless of who the source is or what the information might be.

00:43:25.000 Sometimes that leads them to believing foolish shit, but a lot of the times it's not a harmful thing to be doubtful or to want to look into it. 0.58

00:43:33.000 I mean, you really are responsible for yourself for figuring out stuff. 0.98

00:43:36.000 You can't take anybody or anything at face value anymore.

00:43:39.000 We get lied to constantly by everybody.

00:43:42.000 You really have to put the effort in to find the information yourself, parse through it, and come to your own conclusion.

00:43:48.000 So that's kind of the stance I take on it.

00:43:50.000 So, yeah, I like conspiracy theories.

00:43:52.000 They're fun to look at.

00:43:53.000 Some I give more credibility than others.

00:43:56.000 But, you know, I don't really, I guess, dog on people too much unless it's something so insane and far out there like a flat earth.

00:44:04.000 That I can't treat it seriously.

00:44:05.000 You're not a flat earther, you mean?

00:44:08.000 Oh, no, no, I'm not a flat earther.

00:44:11.000 I would not be a flat earther.

00:44:13.000 I would find it hard to keep satellites in geosynchronous orbit if we were on a flat plane, but I guess that's just me.

00:44:19.000 Yeah, I'm not a flat earther.

00:44:21.000 I'm a hollow earther, to be fair.

00:44:23.000 I think it's all on the inside of the sphere, so totally not flat.

00:44:28.000 I actually, I don't know.

00:44:28.000 I don't know.

00:44:30.000 I can't really say.

00:44:31.000 I tend to believe it's a globe, but I can never really be too sure.

00:44:34.000 I really can never really be too sure how.

00:44:37.000 How far the gaslighting goes.

00:44:38.000 I guess I believe in Round Earth for the sake of argument.

00:44:42.000 But yeah, that's the world we live in right now.

00:44:44.000 They said the word of the year in 2016 was post truth.

00:44:47.000 And I think that's really where we are.

00:44:49.000 You can't trust anybody, trust not even yourself.

00:44:52.000 But yeah, I always found that amusing that a lot of prominent figures on the left tried to poke fun at that people's mindsets.

00:45:00.000 You had Stephen Colbert saying things like truthiness or truthfulness or whatever it was, his little take on that, or John Oliver and all the others.

00:45:07.000 You know, all these people believe anything and they don't believe the truth and all of this.

00:45:11.000 But you look at the mindset now after it's developed for a few years, and you've got world leaders and the heads of corporations saying things like fake news.

00:45:18.000 So I think it's kind of proliferating.

00:45:20.000 You know, I think it's reaching more people that, you know, we get lied to quite a bit and maybe not just take everything at face value.

00:45:28.000 Yeah, I don't know why people would.

00:45:30.000 I mean, that's the thing I'll talk to my friends, I'll talk to my family, and I'll present them with my views on certain historical events or Tragedies, you know, whatever.

00:45:40.000 And I, well, it didn't quite happen the way they say it did, you know?

00:45:43.000 And people say, what are you talking about? 0.92

00:45:45.000 What are you crazy? 0.99

00:45:46.000 What are you conspiracy? 1.00

00:45:47.000 There is that kind of thing.

00:45:49.000 And to me, the go to is always, no, you're right.

00:45:51.000 I believe everything the government tells me.

00:45:54.000 I believe everything exactly down to the most minute detail that the government says.

00:45:59.000 The government would never lie.

00:46:01.000 There is no difference in the information that we, the public, have and the NSA and the CIA.

00:46:06.000 There's no difference.

00:46:07.000 Why would they lie?

00:46:08.000 You know, on that.

00:46:09.000 I think usually puts it in perspective for people, which is to say that is effectively what we do.

00:46:14.000 We have this culture of, well, you should question everything, doubt, be a skeptic.

00:46:20.000 And yet we take everything we hear in school for granted.

00:46:22.000 We take everything we see in television for granted, everything we hear from our government for granted. 1.00

00:46:26.000 And if you doubt it, you're a bad person, you're a nut, you're a loon. 1.00

00:46:30.000 But you have to do it. 0.98

00:46:31.000 You have to doubt everybody, not just Alex Jones, but the people that have a vested interest in lying to you, like politicians.

00:46:38.000 Yeah, no, I mean, that's very true.

00:46:40.000 Everybody seems to have kind of an invested interest.

00:46:42.000 And, you know, One of the more fascinating things to me would be the last three or four years, even longer than that, to be honest.

00:46:49.000 There's a conversation relating to the deep state, which is just the intelligence community CIA, FBI, NSA.

00:46:57.000 But we've seen the laws that were passed in regards to what they can do and they can't do.

00:47:01.000 And then we had leak after leak after leak of them wiretapping everything, of putting back doors in both hardware and software.

00:47:08.000 And, you know, the whole time they're saying, no, no, no, trust this.

00:47:10.000 We're not doing that.

00:47:11.000 And they're totally doing that.

00:47:13.000 So, you know, I don't know how you can look at that or listen to somebody like, I think it's Applebaum and others who brought this information forward and be like, yeah, no, that's trustworthy.

00:47:21.000 We should believe what they say.

00:47:22.000 I mean, they were just lying to our face.

00:47:25.000 Like in the case of James Clapper, we're not spying on anyone.

00:47:28.000 And then he came out and said, Yeah, that was actually the least truthful thing I could have possibly said in that situation.

00:47:36.000 And it continues.

00:47:38.000 But anyway, the last thing I wanted to get into, I think we've treaded over the pedophiles, the conspiracies.

00:47:44.000 This is the last major topic.

00:47:46.000 This is the big one that nobody's talking about, on the alt right in particular.

00:47:51.000 We talk about race.

00:47:53.000 We talk about Jewish influence. 0.53

00:47:54.000 We talk about all the media, the government, the deep state. 0.88

00:47:59.000 Pernicious actor in the world that people are kind of afraid to talk about. 1.00

00:48:04.000 I've been very strong in this question, and that is the woman question. 0.83

00:48:08.000 And I wanted to pick your brain on this. 0.93

00:48:09.000 We had, in our circles, we had this big war about women online. 0.99

00:48:15.000 It was called the Thought Wars. 1.00

00:48:17.000 It started out with Tara McCarthy being a baby, being a retard baby.

00:48:21.000 She was like, people aren't being mean to me. 0.99

00:48:23.000 You have to submit and defend me, or else I won't have you on my stream.

00:48:27.000 And then it was Millennial Woes, and then it was Southern, and all these people.

00:48:31.000 And it's still very much divided.

00:48:32.000 And we see this now.

00:48:34.000 Not just in the political movement, we see it in video games.

00:48:37.000 You were a big part of Gamergate.

00:48:39.000 It was in Battlefield 5.

00:48:42.000 It was in Star Wars.

00:48:43.000 It's in Ghostbusters.

00:48:45.000 It's in WWE now. 1.00

00:48:46.000 They're doing their all women pay per view.

00:48:49.000 Is it just social justice warriors? 1.00

00:48:51.000 Is it feminists? 1.00

00:48:52.000 Is it women themselves? 1.00

00:48:54.000 Is there an appropriate degree of segregation that must occur?

00:48:57.000 What is your take on this as kind of not an ideological person?

00:49:00.000 What would you say about the woman question? 1.00

00:49:03.000 Oh, I would say, as a blanket statement, Women ruin everything. 1.00

00:49:10.000 It seems that whatever group they become a part of, the focal point of that group deviates from what it was originally set out to be about and to be only and solely about the woman. 0.98

00:49:21.000 Now, that's not to say that women can't be funny or can't be smart or can't lead in some capacity or even be a part of a movement.

00:49:26.000 There are many that do so. 1.00

00:49:27.000 But I've found generally that when women get involved with something, it goes to shit. 1.00

00:49:33.000 When women get a position of power or a large amount of say in video games, video games go to shit. 1.00

00:49:38.000 When they do in comic books, comic books go to shit and movies and everything else you can think of. 1.00

00:49:43.000 You know, I think a good example of this would be wasn't it Millennial? 0.91

00:49:46.000 I can't remember who it was, but I always found this funny.

00:49:49.000 There's a video clip of him on a stream about this because Millennial Woes has, you know, some very upfront viewpoints on certain things.

00:49:57.000 And he was defending this woman.

00:49:58.000 Maybe it was Terry McCarthy.

00:49:59.000 Maybe it was somebody else.

00:50:00.000 I'm sure you'll know who it is once I say the quote.

00:50:03.000 But he's sitting there with her and, you know, he's been defending her against all the attacks and he's on her side.

00:50:09.000 And during the middle of the stream, she looks into her little camera and says, I'm a fourth generation Holocaust survivor.

00:50:16.000 And the look that he got on his face, it was like five seconds that he went through nearly every emotion to, Why have I supported this woman? 1.00

00:50:24.000 to, Holy shit, I look like a massive idiot right now. 1.00

00:50:27.000 And I think that about sums it up. 1.00

00:50:29.000 I think that about sums up what happens when you side with a woman over a majority. 0.51

00:50:36.000 And that majority could include other women.

00:50:38.000 But, you know, again, I know it's family friendly, so people cover your children's ears. 1.00

00:50:43.000 Don't put pussy on a pedestal would be the right way of saying it. 0.99

00:50:46.000 That's aptly put, apropos for the conversation. 0.99

00:50:50.000 I'm glad you answered that way.

00:50:51.000 I know you're cool now.

00:50:52.000 Well, it's true.

00:50:54.000 This is something I've witnessed as well.

00:50:55.000 I think everybody's seen it.

00:50:56.000 And it's not to say that we don't love women.

00:50:58.000 I mean, look, I've always said it. 0.85

00:51:00.000 I love women.

00:51:01.000 We respect women and we want women to do well.

00:51:04.000 But when they enter into male domains, video games, wrestling, you know, whatever, and all these different examples, politics, streams, now that's not to say that there's not exceptions. 0.99

00:51:15.000 That's not to say that there aren't women who excel in these fields. 1.00

00:51:19.000 And the reason we have to kiss ass and say that kind of thing is because they will bitch us out if they, oh, are you saying that women, well, what about me? 1.00

00:51:27.000 You know, that kind of thing. 1.00

00:51:28.000 By and large, they enter into a male space and they change the dynamic. 1.00

00:51:28.000 But it's true. 1.00

00:51:33.000 We see it time and time again. 0.99

00:51:35.000 Women get in, and immediately the room is divided.

00:51:38.000 Men want to impress the women, they want to prove themselves, they want to attack other men. 0.59

00:51:44.000 Some men want to keep to the core mission, while other men say, well, the woman needs more attention. 0.53

00:51:49.000 And it just changes the dynamic.

00:51:51.000 And to me, that is so fundamental to civilization.

00:51:55.000 People make a lot of jokes about it, and people understand it intuitively.

00:51:59.000 But it's so important.

00:52:00.000 Our civilization is built on the bedrock of men and women.

00:52:04.000 How do you think you get the next generation through children? 0.86

00:52:07.000 It's the union of men and women.

00:52:09.000 And so, when that dynamic is not understood, when that dynamic is not respected, the natures of the two components are not respected and affirmed, you have all hell break loose.

00:52:20.000 It's chaos.

00:52:21.000 That's what's happening with the fertility rates, with the culture, with business, and everything else. 0.99

00:52:25.000 And so, to me, that's the most important thing.

00:52:28.000 And I think there are very few people who understand that.

00:52:31.000 It's mostly.

00:52:32.000 The shitlords, internet people who are honest because it's obvious and we see it and it's kind of funny.

00:52:38.000 But we're the only ones that are willing and able to affirm that because so many people are beholden because they've put it on the pedestal, like you say.

00:52:46.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I think we're dealing with a culture of confusion.

00:52:49.000 I think a lot of people have forsaken traditional values, the concept of a traditional home life.

00:52:55.000 You have men and women competing in the same spaces and it just creates an animosity.

00:52:59.000 It breaks down family cohesion.

00:53:02.000 So I think there's a lot to be said for that.

00:53:04.000 But yeah, generally. 1.00

00:53:06.000 Generally, I would say women ruin everything. 1.00

00:53:09.000 Prove me wrong. 1.00

00:53:10.000 If you've got a good example of that not happening, pick an entertainment industry.

00:53:15.000 Pick a profession.

00:53:16.000 Pick something that they haven't shown up in and completely driven into the dirt.

00:53:20.000 And I'll be impressed.

00:53:22.000 Really impress me.

00:53:23.000 Give me two examples because you probably have one on Wikipedia right now that you're waiting to use for this such argument.

00:53:28.000 So give me two, one you don't have ready.

00:53:31.000 True.

00:53:32.000 And think about it.

00:53:33.000 I always ask this question. 1.00

00:53:35.000 I say women do not belong in politics because that's my area. 1.00

00:53:39.000 And people say, no, what do you do? 1.00

00:53:40.000 Yeah, they do.

00:53:41.000 I'm a woman and I think they do. 1.00

00:53:43.000 And look, I love women. 1.00

00:53:44.000 And if they watch the show, that's great. 1.00

00:53:46.000 A lot of women watch the show. 1.00

00:53:48.000 But by and large, women do not have political brains. 1.00

00:53:50.000 They don't tend to think about politics as thoroughly as men. 1.00

00:53:54.000 They just don't choose to.

00:53:56.000 And if they do, they're not quite as creative as men in that area.

00:53:59.000 And people, oh, I disagree with that. 0.98

00:54:01.000 Well, point to me a single female philosopher that wasn't for the advancement of women. 1.00

00:54:06.000 You know, every female political philosopher prominent that you could name. 1.00

00:54:10.000 Was only prominent because she was complaining about the oppression of women.

00:54:14.000 And by the way, the same is true with other categories, which I can't really mention. 0.62

00:54:19.000 That'd be a little bit more politically incorrect, but the same is true of other categories.

00:54:23.000 If you think of who are the most influential, you know, whatever people you can mention.

00:54:28.000 You don't want to lose that ACLU sponsorship.

00:54:30.000 Is that what you're telling me?

00:54:32.000 It's not quite the ACLU.

00:54:34.000 Maybe the ACLU would cover it, but there are other groups where it's all the only reason we know those people that we celebrate in a month or in a day or a week is.

00:54:44.000 Well, they were for the advancement of their own people.

00:54:46.000 And that's about it.

00:54:48.000 And to me, that's, you know, it's obvious to everybody, but we have to all play along.

00:54:53.000 We have to all pretend.

00:54:54.000 It's basically like a group, I don't even know, like group therapy or like a group delusion where we pretend we say, hello, you're just as good as this as everyone else, you know? 1.00

00:55:05.000 And it's, well, we all know it's bullshit. 1.00

00:55:07.000 We know it. 1.00

00:55:07.000 We see it. 1.00

00:55:08.000 Well, now I see people in your chat countering and saying, what about Thatcher?

00:55:12.000 Well, you know, I'd counter with, what about Merkel?

00:55:15.000 You know, if you want to talk about female politicians. 0.99

00:55:18.000 What about May? 1.00

00:55:19.000 What about Theresa May? 0.93

00:55:21.000 Right? 1.00

00:55:22.000 I'll go tit for tat with you on that one.

00:55:24.000 It's in every case.

00:55:26.000 And sure, they'll point out one token example Catherine the Great, Joan of Arc.

00:55:32.000 But for every one woman, you could name a thousand men.

00:55:35.000 I mean, we're talking about all of history.

00:55:37.000 And oh, well, this one time.

00:55:38.000 And there's exceptions.

00:55:40.000 Of course, there's exceptions.

00:55:41.000 But like you said, the rule remains they ruin everything.

00:55:45.000 The only thing they don't ruin, motherhood.

00:55:49.000 Just look, look, I know it's a raw deal.

00:55:52.000 I know you're getting a very raw deal.

00:55:54.000 We pay for everything, we fight the wars.

00:55:57.000 We build the effing skyscrapers.

00:55:59.000 We do the iron work.

00:56:00.000 We work in the mines.

00:56:01.000 And you stay at home in the air conditioning and look after the kids, and you have to bake a pie every once in a while.

00:56:06.000 I know you're getting a really raw deal, but that's all we're asking.

00:56:10.000 I mean, is that so much to ask?

00:56:11.000 Do you think that's too much?

00:56:14.000 No, no.

00:56:15.000 I'm personally a fan of the idea of the nuclear family the nice little suburban home, the white picket fence, the 2.3 kids, and the barbecues on Saturdays. 0.55

00:56:25.000 I like that ideal.

00:56:26.000 I like that.

00:56:28.000 That very much.

00:56:30.000 But it's something that's kind of slipped away.

00:56:32.000 And I mean, we look at modern society with high divorce rates, with unhappy people everywhere, because the emphasis on what a relationship is and the roles that people play in that relationship have been downplayed or, you know, just pushed aside.

00:56:45.000 Anybody can be anything now, right?

00:56:47.000 There are no roles that define us anymore.

00:56:49.000 And I think it's created a generation of lost people that are very unhappy.

00:56:53.000 And I think women probably are realizing this.

00:56:55.000 I think they're getting into the workforce, they're graduating college, and they're looking around and saying, you know what? 0.98

00:57:00.000 Um, this kind of sucks.

00:57:01.000 Maybe, maybe being a housewife and a mother and raising children and doing that isn't terrible. 0.94

00:57:07.000 I don't know how people because there's this weird thing that goes on in the 21st century where people tend to look at the white picket fence nuclear family that you describe and they look at it very cynically and and they always use that as an example of what do you want to go back to the 50s?

00:57:07.000 Well, right.

00:57:23.000 What do you want to go back to white picket fence and all that?

00:57:25.000 I'm thinking, hell yeah, who thinks that what we have now is preferable to what we had then?

00:57:32.000 In terms of you look at the cities, the cars, the architecture, family life, and you, oh, but this is preferable where people are getting blackout drunk.

00:57:40.000 They're killing themselves.

00:57:42.000 They're on drugs. 0.55

00:57:43.000 We've got an invasion on our border.

00:57:46.000 Yeah, who would want the white picket fence?

00:57:47.000 Who would want barbecue on Saturday and going to church on Sunday and all that?

00:57:51.000 Yeah, God forbid.

00:57:52.000 And everybody's wearing a suit and a hat.

00:57:54.000 I don't get it.

00:57:55.000 I don't get it.

00:57:56.000 It's because they don't want to face the reality of what that, you know, the lifestyle that they're currently living in is like.

00:58:01.000 It's almost a sanitized version that's presented to them.

00:58:03.000 I think the best example of that would be.

00:58:05.000 If you go back and watch, I know this is very weird, but if you go back and watch the very first reveal of the Nintendo Switch, there's a scene where she takes her Nintendo Switch and it's like an urban environment.

00:58:15.000 It's a city, right?

00:58:16.000 And she goes across to another rooftop and they're hanging out and having fun and everybody's in their 20s and isn't this great?

00:58:22.000 We're all diverse and multicultural.

00:58:24.000 Now go to a real city and see if anybody's doing that.

00:58:27.000 You know, when you break apart the family unit, when everybody's just loving this new urbanized ideal of what our life should be, it's nowhere near the fantasy that's presented to most people. 0.98

00:58:37.000 It kind of sucks.

00:58:39.000 And I, you know, I don't know. 0.97

00:58:40.000 Maybe I'm just, maybe it's the boomer in me that wants that old, you know, kind of suburbia.

00:58:46.000 But I think it's something that we should strive to get back, maybe.

00:58:50.000 And I think it's something we gave up maybe too easily.

00:58:53.000 Well, that's a great point that you make about the commercials.

00:58:56.000 I feel the same way.

00:58:56.000 I find myself thinking, can't my life just be like in the commercials?

00:59:01.000 Can't it just be like where everyone's smiling and there's rooftop parties where they have cool, kitschy lights?

00:59:08.000 Isn't that fun?

00:59:09.000 And they're playing their Switch in black Chinese. 1.00

00:59:12.000 There's a couple of lesbians hanging out. 1.00

00:59:15.000 And it's just fun.

00:59:16.000 And we're driving around in our rustic Beetle from the 1960s, Volkswagen Beetle, and having a picnic, and we're taking pictures with an old camera.

00:59:26.000 But that's not how it is. 1.00

00:59:27.000 What it's really like is women go to a party, they get blackout drunk because they're miserable. 0.99

00:59:32.000 Maybe they get raped or something. 1.00

00:59:34.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:59:35.000 That tends to happen a lot.

00:59:36.000 Or not, they're just alone drinking wine with their friends, and then they wake up, their mom's been calling them, and they're $100,000 in student loan debt and they don't have a job.

00:59:47.000 That's the contrast.

00:59:48.000 But people want to sell us the former and say, oh, no, no, no.

00:59:51.000 It's actually like that sitcom on television.

00:59:54.000 It's actually like 13 Reasons Why, where everybody's like a really smart and clever. 1.00

01:00:00.000 Snarky bitch. 1.00

01:00:02.000 Was 13 Reasons Why? 1.00

01:00:04.000 Was that the one where the chick guilt tripped people after killing herself by sending out answering machine or machine messages about how guilty they were for this? 1.00

01:00:13.000 Yeah, she set up an elaborate, like, I don't even know.

01:00:16.000 I'm watching, I'm thinking, this is absurd.

01:00:18.000 How could anybody watch this? 0.89

01:00:21.000 I just love the fact that's so narcissistic. 1.00

01:00:23.000 I love the fact that this chick wanted the final word so bad she kills herself and then sends out messages blaming everybody that nobody can respond to. 0.92

01:00:32.000 It's your fault.

01:00:33.000 You were mean to me in the hallway. 0.96

01:00:36.000 I would have burned that tape and pissed on her grave.

01:00:38.000 What are you doing? 0.99

01:00:39.000 Well, and the best is that she sets up this like elaborate plan that unfolds over the course of it's like dominoes falling down, and finally the plan is revealed.

01:00:50.000 And I'm watching this where there's like these teenagers and they're in high school.

01:00:53.000 Does anybody remember any high schoolers being remotely that interesting, intelligent?

01:00:59.000 They have something to say, give me a break. 0.98

01:01:01.000 People kill themselves because they get made fun of because, like, they have a silly hat. 0.95

01:01:06.000 Or if they got caught sleeping with this person. 0.82

01:01:09.000 You know, the idea that, oh, they put together this highly sophisticated Rube Goldberg machine of voicemails and photographs.

01:01:18.000 Give me a break. 0.98

01:01:19.000 Yeah, so ridiculous. 0.94

01:01:21.000 She plans so much for everything to go meticulously correct, and she's not going to be around to oversee it. 0.97

01:01:21.000 It's so elaborate. 0.97

01:01:26.000 She's dead after all, but for some reason it works out just fine.

01:01:30.000 Well, that's the funny part, too, is, you know, the whole point is why would you even go to that kind of trouble if you're not even going to get the satisfaction to see it all?

01:01:40.000 I think people forget that when you die, it's like the story stops there.

01:01:44.000 You're done.

01:01:45.000 So, all this other stuff, not going to see it.

01:01:48.000 So, a very convoluted premise.

01:01:50.000 Yeah, she could have faked her own kidnapping and at least been around to watch it unfold.

01:01:53.000 You know what I mean?

01:01:54.000 Or something like that. 1.00

01:01:55.000 But no, no, she had to be a drama queen and drink Clorox or whatever she did.

01:01:59.000 I don't remember. 1.00

01:02:00.000 But off herself and then send out the messages to make people feel bad. 1.00

01:02:04.000 What a weird show that was.

01:02:05.000 That was so bizarre.

01:02:06.000 Well, and so symptomatic of where the youth is at in terms of.

01:02:11.000 I mean, they call it the me generation. 0.78

01:02:12.000 Boomers say that a lot, but it's so true where the premise is you should feel bad for me.

01:02:19.000 Nobody's feeling bad for me.

01:02:20.000 I'm not getting enough attention. 0.98

01:02:22.000 Therefore, I will kill myself to get attention. 0.91

01:02:26.000 And then I will make people feel bad that they didn't pay attention to me, that they didn't feel bad for me. 0.77

01:02:32.000 And then you see people behave like this all the time.

01:02:35.000 I see it all the time on Twitter.com.

01:02:37.000 The cries for help, the cries for attention. 1.00

01:02:40.000 It's a very pathetic. 0.99

01:02:41.000 Sad lost generation, and I blame the boomers, I blame Generation X, I blame them all. 1.00

01:02:48.000 There you go.

01:02:49.000 You know, I saw some people in chat bringing this up.

01:02:51.000 I don't know how you are for time if you've got a few more minutes here, but they were bringing up Nick, atheist confirmed. 0.98

01:02:57.000 I guess you're going a little too hard on that.

01:03:00.000 I did want to get your perspective on this, though.

01:03:01.000 I mean, given your stance on the pedophilia kind of thing and Hollywood and all that.

01:03:05.000 I know you're a good Catholic boy, correct?

01:03:06.000 That's right.

01:03:07.000 Great Catholic, yeah.

01:03:09.000 What was your stance on how the church, the Pope, handled their issue with pedophilia, kind of the cover up that took place over 50 years?

01:03:16.000 I mean, what is your position on that?

01:03:18.000 Oh, it was a very disappointing thing to see.

01:03:20.000 I think what the Catholic church has really seen since Vatican II, if you want to really get into context, I think a lot of people are disappointed the way the church handled that.

01:03:29.000 It was really kind of before my time.

01:03:32.000 I don't mean that as a cop out, but I mean, you got to remember, I became like a conscious human being in like 2012.

01:03:37.000 That's when I started, oh, this is, you know, I'm in the world, you know.

01:03:41.000 But looking back, it's very unfortunate.

01:03:43.000 It's disappointing the way that was handled.

01:03:46.000 And the Catholic Church has been a tremendous disappointment in everything they've done for 50 years.

01:03:51.000 What they've done for 50 years is tried to accommodate the modern world, is tried to accommodate people's sensibilities in this day and age.

01:03:58.000 And that's largely separate from pedophilia, but I think it gets at the same point that it's unfortunate that the church leadership has failed the doctrine.

01:04:08.000 The human beings who are fallible, who are sinners, that run the church, have really, I think, let down and been a disappointment for Catholics who want to see the doctrine spread.

01:04:19.000 I'm a Catholic not because I'm the biggest fan of Pope Francis and Pope Benedict and all these people. 0.90

01:04:24.000 I'm a Catholic because I believe that Jesus Christ established the church.

01:04:29.000 By building the church on the rock, which was Peter, and that his successors are the vicars of Christ on earth.

01:04:34.000 And so that's what brought me to the Catholic faith, was realizing that and thinking about that system.

01:04:38.000 But then I see the leadership and I say it's been in many ways a big letdown for people that want to see Catholicism spread without these horrible distractions, without these horrible missteps and cover ups and the appeal to modernism.

01:04:53.000 So I think I've been disappointed.

01:04:55.000 I will say, in defense of the church, that the rate of pedophilia.

01:05:00.000 Is, I believe, the same or lower than in other religious institutions.

01:05:05.000 People will point, oh, well, there's many pedophiles.

01:05:07.000 Well, you have to understand that the Catholic Church is a global organization.

01:05:11.000 They've got churches on every continent, in every country.

01:05:15.000 And so there were significant circumstances there.

01:05:19.000 But if you look at the rate compared to how many there are, it was actually less than other religious institutions.

01:05:24.000 That said, the big problem was they let homosexuals into the clergy. 0.99

01:05:28.000 You know, there's a big problem between homosexuals and pedophiles. 0.99

01:05:32.000 It's no coincidence they start letting in homosexuals and then there's pedophiles. 0.99

01:05:36.000 And that goes back to the appeasement of modernism. 0.97

01:05:38.000 So it's just, it's very unfortunate.

01:05:42.000 Now, with that said, you know, kind of the stance on this, now, can you begrudge the Protestants for their Reformation?

01:05:48.000 I know it wasn't pedophilia, right, Martin, but, you know, the idea that the church was absolving sins for profit.

01:05:55.000 I mean, you can probably see where they're coming from with why they'd have an issue with that.

01:06:00.000 I definitely understand where they're coming from.

01:06:02.000 I absolutely do.

01:06:04.000 And the trick with faith, this is kind of the misconception about faith.

01:06:08.000 People say, well, faith means that you believe in something that you can't see.

01:06:12.000 That's actually not true.

01:06:13.000 We, the believers, know that God is real.

01:06:16.000 The faith comes in that if God tells us one thing and we don't understand it or it's hard for us to wrap our heads around, we have to have faith that it is correct and carry it out. 0.73

01:06:26.000 In the case of the Protestants, they have to have stronger faith and say, Christ established a church. 0.67

01:06:33.000 He would protect that church from error.

01:06:34.000 He would protect that church from Going against what he would want in matters of doctrine.

01:06:39.000 But they saw some of the corruption that went on.

01:06:41.000 And I don't deny that there was corruption, I don't deny that there have been popes who have not been the best representatives of Christ and his message.

01:06:50.000 But you have to have faith.

01:06:51.000 That's where faith comes in.

01:06:52.000 I mean, there's a lot of people nowadays, they call them, what do they call them?

01:06:56.000 Sede Vacantists, where they say, well, all the popes have been false popes going back 100 years or 200 years or whatever.

01:07:03.000 And it really has to be about faith that if you believe in Christ, you believe in his word, you believe in his church, well, you have to stick with the church even in times where you don't agree with everything that's going on, even though there's corruption.

01:07:14.000 And there's been corruption in the church for 2,000 years, but it's never interfered with the doctrine.

01:07:19.000 So it's a fair question.

01:07:21.000 It's a fair question, and it's one that people ask a lot.

01:07:24.000 Well, now you're bringing up fake popes, and I've got to ask you, what do you put any stock into?

01:07:27.000 Is it St. Malachi or Malachi, the prophecy of the popes?

01:07:30.000 What was your take on that, given your current pope?

01:07:33.000 Not right.

01:07:34.000 And that things have gone as they have gone.

01:07:38.000 You know, I don't believe that is.

01:07:39.000 I don't believe that's totally part of the Catholic doctrine.

01:07:43.000 So I'm not a subscriber to that book or the prophecies in there.

01:07:48.000 I just don't think it's legitimate, but I guess we'll see what happens, right?

01:07:51.000 I know there's some pretty harrowing prophecies about what's to come, and I know there is a lot of people will say there's a lot of congruence.

01:07:58.000 There.

01:07:59.000 But I guess we'll see.

01:08:01.000 You know, it's tough to say.

01:08:02.000 I believe because, you know, like I said, I'm a big believer that Christ lived, died, was resurrected, and that his word, his doctrine has been protected.

01:08:11.000 And I understand there's always this kind of rush to say, well, there's similarities here, and people read into kind of these doomsday prophecies.

01:08:17.000 I don't totally buy into that kind of thing, but I guess we'll see what happens, right?

01:08:21.000 I mean, do you buy into the Malachi stuff or no? 0.88

01:08:25.000 I'm not Catholic, so I guess it wouldn't be fair to give too much of an opinion on this because, again, who cares what a Protestant thinks, right? 0.97

01:08:32.000 Right.

01:08:33.000 But, you know, I don't like your current pope very much.

01:08:36.000 I mean, neither.

01:08:37.000 I think a lot of what he says goes against doctrine and dogma.

01:08:40.000 I think a lot of what he says goes against the church and just the faith itself.

01:08:44.000 He's made some statements I've heard others explain away, but they resonate false with me, I guess. 0.92

01:08:52.000 Him talking about just, you know, anybody can get into heaven, basically, and shit like that irks me when it comes to the cornerstone of the Christian faith. 0.98

01:09:00.000 Me, too. 0.99

01:09:01.000 Me, too.

01:09:01.000 I don't think he would be.

01:09:04.000 I think it would be more traditional in his approach to that because I'm pretty sure Jesus said that wasn't the case.

01:09:09.000 You can't just be a cool dude and get in.

01:09:11.000 Right.

01:09:11.000 Well, yeah.

01:09:12.000 I mean, that's something my mom, one time, we were driving to go out to dinner and she was like, oh, check out this video.

01:09:18.000 She pulled it up on Facebook and it was that little boy who went up to the Pope and said, oh, my dad was an atheist and he just died.

01:09:25.000 Is he going to go to heaven?

01:09:26.000 And the Pope was like, well, he was a good man, so he's going to heaven.

01:09:29.000 And my mom was like, isn't that so nice?

01:09:30.000 I'm like, that's borderline heretical.

01:09:32.000 You should not be saying that.

01:09:34.000 So.

01:09:35.000 Believe me, I hear you.

01:09:36.000 I know where you're coming from.

01:09:38.000 And it's very difficult for us Catholics because we believe in the church as an institution and we believe in Peter.

01:09:46.000 And sometimes the popes are not great approximations of that.

01:09:50.000 And I will say he wasn't speaking infallibly when he said that. 0.97

01:09:54.000 It's a technicality, but it is true.

01:09:56.000 But I hear where you're coming from.

01:09:59.000 You're right.

01:10:00.000 I mean, that is correct.

01:10:01.000 But I don't know.

01:10:02.000 From my viewpoint, the throne of Peter, I would say, is vacant.

01:10:06.000 With the current guy you've got there. 0.97

01:10:08.000 Now, maybe the Catholics will get together and exile him. 0.95

01:10:11.000 I don't remember what it's called exactly. 1.00

01:10:12.000 I know even a way to unpope him.

01:10:13.000 Excommunicate, yeah.

01:10:16.000 Yeah, unpope him if he goes too far overboard.

01:10:18.000 But I guess I kind of find this interesting.

01:10:21.000 What would he have to do to make you say, okay, I've got to take a step back here?

01:10:26.000 What would he have to come out and say for you to be like, we've got a real problem?

01:10:29.000 Well, and that would be very easy.

01:10:31.000 If he spoke in his powers as infallible, if he contributed to the magisterium and he.

01:10:38.000 He was invoking his powers of infallibility, and he said something that went against doctrine or scripture, overturned pre existing doctrine.

01:10:47.000 I would have to say it would really cause a crisis of faith because the whole point of why we believe in the papacy is because the doctrine has apostolic succession.

01:10:57.000 It's never been reversed, it's been changed, it's been tweaked, but it's never been reversed.

01:11:02.000 And if something was reversed, if he spoke against scripture, if it was something that was wrong, obviously that would throw into question the foundation of the religion, which is that the Pope is infallible, that he is truly the vicar of Christ.

01:11:16.000 So if that happened, And people say all the time, well, he said this, he said that.

01:11:21.000 Well, people can say things.

01:11:23.000 He is still a mortal man, and people can say things.

01:11:26.000 But if he invoked the infallibility and he said something fallible, I don't think you could recover from that.

01:11:32.000 I gotcha.

01:11:33.000 Just by the way, what did you think of the show, The Young Pope?

01:11:37.000 I've seen clips of it.

01:11:37.000 I didn't watch it.

01:11:41.000 You might like that.

01:11:42.000 I mean, I know it comes off a certain way when you're watching the advertisements for it, but he's very hardline traditional.

01:11:48.000 Yeah, well, and I like that.

01:11:50.000 Yeah, I think in the first episode, if I remember, I was like the first or second episode, he talked about the problem with the modern church being that it's trying too hard to net people in, that it's becoming too open door, that it's tolerating everything rather than adhering to its traditional values and viewpoints.

01:12:05.000 So his solution to that was to close the doors, to make it mysterious again, to cut off access to people.

01:12:11.000 That's why he wouldn't appear in public and do things like that.

01:12:14.000 I thought it was an interesting show.

01:12:15.000 I just didn't know if you'd watched it or not.

01:12:17.000 Yeah, no, I saw that monologue that he gave.

01:12:20.000 I've seen some of the clips.

01:12:22.000 The problem is that he's prideful.

01:12:24.000 You know, as a Christian, you look at that character. 0.96

01:12:26.000 He's not exactly Christ like, but that kind of leadership, that kind of tone, I think is what's necessary for the Catholic Church at this point because it's true. 0.77

01:12:34.000 Since Vatican II, and that's the correct diagnosis, we have been too willing to appease, to appeal to the modern world, to a satanic world order. 0.85

01:12:45.000 You know, if Christ saw what was going on today, he would be turning over tables like he did in the temple.

01:12:50.000 He would be doing what he did in that case.

01:12:53.000 And we don't see that from the Pope.

01:12:54.000 We see an appeasement, we see he tries to get along, he tries to be like.

01:12:58.000 At least that's my interpretation, and that's not the way it should go.

01:13:02.000 So we're on the same page.

01:13:04.000 It's just, you know, I think we are on the same page in terms of we see that there is definitely something wrong there.

01:13:11.000 It puts a bad taste in our mouth, but you happen to believe that that is delegitimizing.

01:13:16.000 I believe that unless certain conditions are met, it's still legitimate.

01:13:20.000 Why?

01:13:20.000 I know Catholics are very faithful.

01:13:23.000 I don't get a chance to talk to a lot of Catholics, so that's kind of what I was curious to pick your brain a little bit on that.

01:13:28.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:13:28.000 You want to throw your opinion out on Mormons?

01:13:30.000 Wait, are you a Mormon? 1.00

01:13:33.000 No, fuck. 1.00

01:13:34.000 Oh. 1.00

01:13:35.000 Well, you know, I always have to clarify in case I ever want to run for president, I can't go after Mormons too hard. 1.00

01:13:44.000 But it's a little bit hocus pocus to me. 0.99

01:13:46.000 As a Catholic, I mean, you look at the Joseph Smith and the stuff that went on, and they can become gods and they have to wear the special underwear.

01:13:55.000 And maybe it's because I don't understand it totally.

01:13:58.000 You know, granted, I haven't read the Book of Mormon in its entirety, but it's.

01:14:03.000 I can't really wrap my head around it. 0.90

01:14:06.000 There's some wild stuff in there about Native Americans being Jews from Egypt 6,000 years ago.

01:14:12.000 Just some really crazy stuff in that book.

01:14:15.000 I've read a little bit of it for a laugh.

01:14:19.000 It's definitely something different. 0.99

01:14:21.000 I mean, I respect their faith, but I don't think it is Christian.

01:14:26.000 I can't say that it is because it's not scriptural.

01:14:29.000 If I just made up my own book and I said, This is the book of Nick.

01:14:33.000 And it says catboys and optics, and maybe I'll do that.

01:14:37.000 People might come to my commune and work for me.

01:14:37.000 Who knows?

01:14:40.000 I don't know.

01:14:41.000 But I can't really wrap my head around how that would be.

01:14:44.000 Jesus Christ never said anything about that.

01:14:46.000 So, a little off.

01:14:48.000 He omitted that.

01:14:49.000 I can't remember.

01:14:50.000 They had an excuse for why some things weren't talked about.

01:14:53.000 But you can read about it from the golden tablets that Joseph dug up.

01:14:57.000 That's right. 0.90

01:14:57.000 And so, you're a Protestant. 0.90

01:14:59.000 Are you just a mainline Protestant, or what particular sect are you?

01:15:03.000 Well, I should have said raised Protestant.

01:15:06.000 I'm more of an atheist, kind of a disinterest, one way or the other, at this point.

01:15:10.000 But I grew up in a good Lutheran family, a typical Protestant upbringing.

01:15:17.000 Went to church every Sunday.

01:15:19.000 I did all of that.

01:15:21.000 I mean, I like the community aspect of it.

01:15:21.000 I enjoyed it.

01:15:24.000 You know, we kind of focused around it, I guess.

01:15:27.000 You know, you'd go to church, you'd go out and have a lunch afterwards.

01:15:30.000 People from the community would get together and do things.

01:15:33.000 And I liked that.

01:15:34.000 And, you know, I think that that kind of, again, is something that's missing kind of in the context of a modern America.

01:15:39.000 It's something that's kind of disappeared, not just, you know, through religion, but just through multiple avenues.

01:15:45.000 We don't have a sense of community or neighborhood anymore.

01:15:48.000 You know, people are kind of separated and just isolated from one another through their technology and their apathy and everything else.

01:15:56.000 That it's just, it's a mess.

01:15:58.000 You're right.

01:15:59.000 It's horrible.

01:15:59.000 It's the number one crisis that's facing the country.

01:16:03.000 Forget taxes, forget trade.

01:16:05.000 I mean, these things are important, but you're so right.

01:16:08.000 It's we've lost the soul of the nation.

01:16:10.000 We don't know who we are.

01:16:11.000 We don't know who our neighbors are.

01:16:12.000 We don't know our neighbors.

01:16:14.000 And it's not, you cannot really classify it as a society.

01:16:17.000 It's just like a collection of people.

01:16:20.000 All living together and doing business, all exchanging goods and labor.

01:16:25.000 But you cannot call it a society.

01:16:27.000 You cannot call a nation a community.

01:16:29.000 And it's a travesty.

01:16:30.000 Who knows how to rebuild something like that?

01:16:32.000 I mean, you need it to happen, I guess, piece by piece, but you certainly can't do it if you don't speak the same language, if you're not from the same place, don't have the same mannerisms, God, et cetera. 0.97

01:16:42.000 So it's a mess. 0.99

01:16:43.000 But I guess we'll leave it on that black pill.

01:16:45.000 I got to get to some super chats and stream labs.

01:16:49.000 I will let you get to the money chats.

01:16:51.000 Thank you for having me on.

01:16:52.000 I had a good time.

01:16:53.000 It was a nice conversation.

01:16:54.000 Absolutely.

01:16:55.000 We should do it again sometime.

01:16:55.000 Hey, me too.

01:16:56.000 Thanks so much for joining us.

01:16:59.000 I know our audience enjoyed it, and we'll see you around, okay?

01:17:02.000 Have a great rest of your evening.

01:17:04.000 Yeah, anytime you want to invite me back, just send me a link and I'll pop on.

01:17:07.000 I had a good time.

01:17:08.000 You too, big guy.

01:17:08.000 Have a good night.

01:17:09.000 Take it easy.

01:17:09.000 All right.

01:17:11.000 All right.

01:17:12.000 Well, there you have it.

01:17:13.000 That was fun.

01:17:14.000 That was a great conversation.

01:17:15.000 I like Medecker.

01:17:18.000 Very, very nice of him to join us on the stream, you know, and fun guy, obviously.

01:17:24.000 Intelligent, too.

01:17:25.000 It's kind of interesting because I was reading some article earlier in the week about how comedians are having like a political responsibility now, which I don't think is true, by the way.

01:17:36.000 They said people like Stephen Colbert and others, John Oliver, now have to be political as well as comedians.

01:17:42.000 And I think the corporate stuff is very vapid, but I think there is something to be said about the humorists like Jim.

01:17:49.000 And I think the new wave of true to form humorists, people on the internet, I think are becoming that way.

01:17:56.000 I think there's, there's, It has to be some element of intuitive understanding, of incisive wit about what's going on in some political context to make jokes that are relevant to people.

01:18:07.000 So, great guest, great conversation.

01:18:11.000 Nothing but nice things to say.

01:18:12.000 So, hopefully, we'll be able to get them on.

01:18:13.000 Hope you enjoyed that.

01:18:15.000 But don't go anywhere.

01:18:16.000 We're going to be reading some Streamlabs and Super Chats, and we'll see what people are saying.

01:18:20.000 We've got to read the money chats.

01:18:21.000 You know, we have to make a living, right?

01:18:24.000 And people like to participate as well.

01:18:26.000 It's not totally about that, but it's a component.

01:18:31.000 And I didn't really know that much about Mr. Medicare.

01:18:34.000 I mean, I've been on streams with him before, I've seen his content lots of times.

01:18:38.000 I watch his videos, I watch his streams, but I didn't really know too much about him personally.

01:18:43.000 So, good getting to know you, Stream.

01:18:45.000 We'll have to bring him back on.

01:18:47.000 And let's see. 0.99

01:18:49.000 Snow says F. Mary Kill, Cassie Dillon, Ariana Rollins, and Allie Stuckey.

01:18:56.000 Hmm.

01:18:57.000 Well, that's a tough question.

01:19:00.000 I would probably.

01:19:01.000 Oh, I can't really get into kill territory because then you're in trouble.

01:19:05.000 Well, I would.

01:19:07.000 I'll answer the other two.

01:19:08.000 I would probably marry Elizabeth Stuckey.

01:19:12.000 Well, I don't know.

01:19:13.000 Because the thing is, Ariana Rollins is. 1.00

01:19:16.000 A degenerate. 1.00

01:19:17.000 I mean, she writes smut, fan fiction, and Paul Town did a whole Thought Patrol on her, so I could never marry somebody like that. 0.98

01:19:24.000 But by the same token, Allie Stuckey has that baby voice.

01:19:27.000 She has that whiny, like, it's like needles. 0.65

01:19:32.000 It's like fingernails on a chalkboard. 0.99

01:19:35.000 So I don't know if I could live with that for 50 years if she was going to be like, you know, always nagging me in that baby voice. 1.00

01:19:42.000 Take out the garbage. 1.00

01:19:44.000 I would get me in a lot of trouble, you know, maybe it would turn into another component there.

01:19:49.000 But I'd probably do it anyway.

01:19:50.000 I'd have to marry Allie.

01:19:52.000 We'd have to do activities. 0.91

01:19:54.000 You know, I'm Catholic, but hey, if I got to choose, it would be Ariana Rollins. 0.99

01:19:59.000 And then the last option would be Cassie Dillon for obvious reasons. 1.00

01:20:03.000 The problem is Cassie Dillon is Jewish. 1.00

01:20:06.000 If I married someone, I'd have kids. 0.94

01:20:08.000 And contraception is not sexually moral.

01:20:10.000 So in either case, I'd be having kids. 0.59

01:20:13.000 Cassie Dillon's Jewish. 0.87

01:20:14.000 Jewish law says that if the mother's Jewish, the kids are Jewish. 0.62

01:20:18.000 I can't be party to that. 0.61

01:20:19.000 I can't be party.

01:20:20.000 You know what they say?

01:20:22.000 You know what Christ said about the people who killed him having his blood on his hands for generations?

01:20:28.000 I can't have that on my conscience.

01:20:30.000 So that would be my choice. 1.00

01:20:33.000 American Rebel said, Some thought just sent me a pic of her boobs. 1.00

01:20:36.000 I responded that she should get work done. 1.00

01:20:39.000 Men want a woman with class. 1.00

01:20:41.000 Don't aspire to be a whore. 1.00

01:20:42.000 So true. 1.00

01:20:43.000 So true.

01:20:44.000 Somebody was telling me the other day, a good friend of mine from online.

01:20:48.000 This is a long time ago.

01:20:50.000 He said he was talking to a girl.

01:20:52.000 And right out of the gate, she was sending him lewd photographs.

01:20:56.000 Right out of the gate.

01:20:57.000 I'm talking the second night or first night they were talking.

01:21:00.000 She's sending him lewd photographs on Twitter.

01:21:04.000 I said, You gotta cut it loose.

01:21:06.000 Because think about it for a moment.

01:21:08.000 If she's sending lewd photographs right out of the gate to you, what do you think?

01:21:12.000 You're Captain Fantastic?

01:21:14.000 You think you're the special one?

01:21:16.000 You're the only one?

01:21:17.000 Of course, those are all over the place.

01:21:19.000 She's probably taken them before if it's not on Snapchat.

01:21:22.000 She's probably got them saved in her camera roll from March.

01:21:25.000 And if that's the case, God help you.

01:21:27.000 You don't want to get involved in something like that.

01:21:28.000 So that's right. 1.00

01:21:30.000 Nobody wants a whore. 1.00

01:21:31.000 Look, if you're Catholic, which I am, and you're aspiring to marriage and not just degenerate casual sex, you're not going to want to touch that kind of arrangement. 1.00

01:21:43.000 It's no good.

01:21:44.000 No good for anybody involved.

01:21:45.000 People who can't control themselves now cannot control themselves later.

01:21:49.000 And that's a big problem.

01:21:51.000 Let's see. 0.61

01:21:52.000 American Rebel says tell Jim race mixing is degenerate.

01:21:56.000 Don't let him and his weird nihilistic mind tricks work on you, big guy.

01:22:00.000 Jim wants to pause something. 1.00

01:22:02.000 You might think he's funny, but the real joke is that God is giving him gay cancer, AKA AIDS. 0.99

01:22:07.000 Well, unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to bring that up with him, but next time I see him, I'll keep that in mind. 0.99

01:22:16.000 Osir says, Love both your work, gentlemen.

01:22:18.000 Appreciate you.

01:22:20.000 Joe the Croat says, Nick, the Daily Brap was riveting content last night.

01:22:24.000 I am hiding, dark past exposed.

01:22:27.000 I wonder what's going to happen tonight.

01:22:28.000 Their subscriber count has increased by over 40%.

01:22:32.000 Do you think they will ever ask you to come on?

01:22:34.000 And if so, would you go?

01:22:35.000 Great show, Nick.

01:22:36.000 Well, thank you, Joe.

01:22:37.000 I may go on the Daily Brab, perhaps over a weekend.

01:22:41.000 The problem is on the daily brap, they ask me to come on right after my show or right when I wake up.

01:22:46.000 These are not convenient times for me.

01:22:49.000 You know, when I do my show, when I finish my show, I don't talk to anybody.

01:22:53.000 I don't look at anybody.

01:22:56.000 I drink Red Bull.

01:22:57.000 No, I drink Monster Zero Dark Ultra or whatever it is.

01:23:02.000 I'm just joking. 1.00

01:23:02.000 I don't drink that crap. 1.00

01:23:05.000 I drink a Diet Coke. 1.00

01:23:07.000 Graham says Tara McCarthy seems like a nut, which makes me sad.

01:23:10.000 I really admire Lauren Southern, though.

01:23:12.000 I think she's great.

01:23:13.000 Emily Ukas is funny. 1.00

01:23:15.000 Women are fine as long as they are in or doing something in an organic manner rather than being shoehorned into it. 1.00

01:23:22.000 Nah, not quite. 1.00

01:23:24.000 Not quite. 0.99

01:23:24.000 I mean, look, I have a lot of respect for various women. 0.99

01:23:27.000 You know that. 0.99

01:23:28.000 I've had women on the show. 0.99

01:23:29.000 Laura Loomer, Faith Goldie. 1.00

01:23:31.000 Big respect for them, like them.

01:23:33.000 Lauren Rose has yet to get on the show, but I'd like her to get on the show. 0.96

01:23:36.000 I like her. 0.55

01:23:37.000 Many women who I love and respect and cherish and have nothing but respect and would do nothing but.

01:23:45.000 But just hold them, you know?

01:23:47.000 Hold them close.

01:23:49.000 But the trouble is that these are the exceptions, not the rule. 1.00

01:23:53.000 Women are not funny. 1.00

01:23:54.000 Sorry to break it to you, but they just simply are not. 1.00

01:23:56.000 They're not evolved to be funny.

01:23:58.000 Oh, well, you could point out one or two examples, but they are not funny, generally speaking.

01:24:03.000 And everybody knows that. 0.97

01:24:04.000 They have to resort to cheap, like disgusting, vulgar humor about their genitals, about, you know, that kind of thing. 0.95

01:24:12.000 And they're generally not funny. 0.89

01:24:13.000 I don't find them funny.

01:24:14.000 But Lawrence Southern, I like too.

01:24:16.000 She's never really collaborated with me since the stream, so I don't really know.

01:24:19.000 I've been saying very nice things about her.

01:24:21.000 And she reaches out every now and again.

01:24:23.000 She says, Nick, do you want to debate this person?

01:24:25.000 Nick, do you want to?

01:24:26.000 And then she never follows up.

01:24:27.000 So I don't know, Lauren, what's going on there?

01:24:31.000 Maybe I do.

01:24:32.000 Well, I don't know.

01:24:33.000 I don't want to get into all that, but I'm always saying very nice things.

01:24:38.000 And she DMs me the other month.

01:24:40.000 She's like, Would you like to debate this person or that person?

01:24:43.000 I'd like, Well, I'd like to debate this person.

01:24:45.000 She goes, Oh, okay.

01:24:47.000 I knew it.

01:24:48.000 Never hear from her again.

01:24:49.000 I don't know. 0.62

01:24:50.000 Maybe she's busy. 0.87

01:24:50.000 Maybe she's just busy. 0.87

01:24:51.000 Who knows?

01:24:52.000 But we'll see.

01:24:55.000 Jeff 2 says It seems like the Fed joke gets thrown around a lot, but if the Feds are paying attention and infiltrating our movement, do you think they'll really let us get off the ground politically?

01:25:05.000 Or will people like you end up like Rockwell or Long?

01:25:09.000 Yeah, no, I don't think I'll ever end up like Rockwell.

01:25:12.000 Maybe Huey Long.

01:25:13.000 And I like Huey Long.

01:25:14.000 That would be a great compliment.

01:25:15.000 Or like Donald Trump. 1.00

01:25:18.000 But no, there are Feds in the movement.

01:25:21.000 I don't know any of them who are feds, but we know that there have to be feds because we know that the federal government does infiltrate right wing movements.

01:25:28.000 Somebody sent me a text which said that the FBI or the CIA or some intelligence agency had thousands of people embedded in the Proud Boys.

01:25:37.000 Now, he showed me all the evidence for it.

01:25:39.000 I've seen it with my own eyes.

01:25:41.000 Showed me that the FBI agent gave him his card and sent him an email and bought him lunch and told him about the extent of their operation.

01:25:50.000 And I don't know, maybe that was just a very elaborate hoax.

01:25:52.000 Who knows?

01:25:53.000 But even if that's not true, We know the government's been infiltrating far right organizations for decades.

01:25:59.000 People have written books about this.

01:26:01.000 If we understand as axiomatic that that's happening, then all we have to do is think who is most likely to be the federal agent?

01:26:08.000 Is it the people saying become a threat to the establishment?

01:26:12.000 Or is it the people saying dox yourself, dox yourself, show everybody how extreme you are, say the bad word a little bit louder for everybody?

01:26:20.000 You know, who would it be?

01:26:22.000 Jeff says, name still Jeff.

01:26:25.000 Also, last episode.

01:26:27.000 You called both me and Jeff too, Jeff.

01:26:29.000 I am in no way associated with Jeff too. 1.00

01:26:31.000 Do not compare me to that heretic. 1.00

01:26:33.000 All right, good to know. 1.00

01:26:36.000 Let's look at our super chats.

01:26:38.000 We'll see what we've got going on here.

01:26:40.000 We've got a lot of super chats.

01:26:41.000 We may have to save some of these for tomorrow.

01:26:45.000 But I'll read some of the best ones.

01:26:48.000 Dweller says, Hey, Nick, I got to leave the server.

01:26:50.000 My parents will gulag me if they find it.

01:26:53.000 They are socialist.

01:26:54.000 I'll DM you later.

01:26:55.000 Love the show.

01:26:56.000 Well, great.

01:26:56.000 I am looking forward to a DM.

01:26:59.000 Isaiah the American, Nick, today is my birthday.

01:27:02.000 I'm 17.

01:27:03.000 And a great gift I got today was an episode of America First.

01:27:06.000 My dad tried to stop me from watching.

01:27:08.000 Too bad for him.

01:27:09.000 Really?

01:27:11.000 Well, is your dad not a fan, or does he just want you to go to a birthday dinner or something?

01:27:16.000 Well, happy birthday.

01:27:17.000 Happy birthday, Mr. Isaiah.

01:27:19.000 Hope it's a good one.

01:27:21.000 As you grow older, when it comes around your birthday, it's going to stop being so great because you start to really think about age.

01:27:28.000 And look, I'm turning 20 next month, I'm turning 20 years old.

01:27:32.000 It really dawns on you how quickly time moves.

01:27:34.000 And so I will get, as a wise elder, as a wise elder, Generation Z content creator, Thank me for my service.

01:27:43.000 I will give you some advice as somebody who's the tender age of 20 next month.

01:27:49.000 Look, you got to stay focused.

01:27:51.000 You got to build skills.

01:27:52.000 You're 17.

01:27:53.000 You're going to be an adult next year.

01:27:55.000 So don't fool around like I did doing Model UN and goofy stuff like that.

01:27:59.000 Well, it wasn't totally goofy, it actually built some skills.

01:28:02.000 But focus on skills.

01:28:04.000 Start doing something one day at a time.

01:28:06.000 That's all it takes.

01:28:07.000 30 minutes a day, it adds up.

01:28:09.000 Learn the piano, learn a language, learn a skill, programming.

01:28:13.000 But do something with your time.

01:28:15.000 Don't waste time.

01:28:16.000 It's the biggest mistake people make.

01:28:16.000 Time.

01:28:18.000 They do it either with ridiculous pursuits like, I'm playing football.

01:28:22.000 Okay, if you're not going to be a Division I athlete, forget about it.

01:28:26.000 Or they do it with girls or it's parties.

01:28:29.000 Stay focused.

01:28:30.000 Get skills.

01:28:31.000 See, you go out of high school.

01:28:33.000 You could start building wealth.

01:28:34.000 You could start becoming independent.

01:28:35.000 So, happy birthday.

01:28:37.000 That's a little gift from me to you.

01:28:38.000 A little advice in a great stream.

01:28:41.000 Hope it's a good one.

01:28:42.000 You want to put yourself in a position where you're not one of those people in those depressing birthday photos.

01:28:48.000 Where it's like their grandma's lighting the candles for them and they're 21 years old and there's no party, there's no friends, and there's like a weird family situation.

01:28:57.000 So it's like an aunt that's there and it's dark and you have a bad haircut.

01:29:01.000 You don't want to end up like that.

01:29:02.000 You want to think, how can I avoid the sad birthday party photograph?

01:29:06.000 I actually may fall victim to it this year because all my friends that I know in my area from high school think I'm a Nazi now.

01:29:14.000 So it's not really going to work for me.

01:29:17.000 But you got to be thinking about that.

01:29:20.000 Dweller, birthdays are very important.

01:29:22.000 Dweller says, Happy birthday to my friend Isaiah.

01:29:24.000 Love the show.

01:29:25.000 Well, great to see it's all love here.

01:29:28.000 Perry Abul says, Papa John did nothing wrong.

01:29:30.000 While I have a captive audience, remember, remember the war against Papa John's marches on.

01:29:38.000 We are in our third day of the crusade.

01:29:41.000 Pass the flyer around.

01:29:42.000 It's all over my timeline.

01:29:44.000 You can find the flyer if you just look up the hashtag, Papa, I'm sorry, bring Papa back.

01:29:49.000 No, bring back Papa.

01:29:51.000 That's the hashtag.

01:29:53.000 Bring back Papa.

01:29:54.000 It has to be that.

01:29:56.000 Tweet it.

01:29:57.000 Tweet out something.

01:29:58.000 We want to bring back our boy, John Schnatter, Papa John Schnatter.

01:30:02.000 He was kicked out of his own company for saying the N word, and he didn't even say it in a bad way.

01:30:07.000 He wasn't calling anybody the N word.

01:30:09.000 He just said it to say he didn't like racism, but he got fired anyway.

01:30:13.000 He's trying to take back control of his country, his company.

01:30:16.000 Maybe that's a Freudian slip.

01:30:18.000 But we can't let them get away with it.

01:30:19.000 We're not ordering Papa John's until they bring back Papa.

01:30:23.000 Hashtag bring back Papa.

01:30:25.000 So tweet it.

01:30:26.000 Print out the flyer, post it in your hometown.

01:30:28.000 They've been all over the place.

01:30:29.000 They're in LA, they're in Charlotte.

01:30:31.000 The posters are popping up everywhere, Chicago.

01:30:34.000 So you got to do it, all right?

01:30:37.000 That's my little PSA for the 1,300 people watching.

01:30:40.000 We've got to get Papa back in control of the company.

01:30:44.000 And people say, well, I don't like his pizza that much.

01:30:47.000 I don't like him personally that much.

01:30:49.000 It's not about that.

01:30:50.000 It's a civil rights issue.

01:30:51.000 We need to be able to say words, we need to be able to communicate.

01:30:55.000 So we're going to hashtag bring back Papa.

01:30:57.000 Just a little blurb on that.

01:30:59.000 I didn't get to mention it at the beginning of the show.

01:31:02.000 Diego Alonso, when will we know we've won the culture war?

01:31:07.000 That's tough to say.

01:31:09.000 It's not really so much, there's not really a finality to it.

01:31:12.000 It's kind of always going to be in flux for the foreseeable future.

01:31:17.000 Made by Milk says Jim is spot on with the consideration towards Generation Z. When their favorite guy gets booted for saying try hard sevens in the chat, I don't know what that means.

01:31:27.000 That feeling of, well, that's effing gay, grows. 0.97

01:31:30.000 Isn't that how we all started? 1.00

01:31:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:31:33.000 It's weird.

01:31:33.000 The people that I know don't really have that in their mind.

01:31:36.000 Some of them do, but a lot of them do not. 0.99

01:31:39.000 To me, I have a very low threshold for that's fucking gay, where I see something and I'm like, okay, really? 0.99

01:31:45.000 But some people, Generation Z, many of them, have a very high threshold where they genuinely get offended at racist jokes, racist things. 0.99

01:31:56.000 They genuinely get offended at sexist things.

01:32:01.000 I'll talk to my friends about my political views and they'll say, so what, you're a racist?

01:32:05.000 That's not cool, bro.

01:32:06.000 And it's like, I'm not a racist, by the way.

01:32:08.000 But they'll say that. 0.97

01:32:09.000 And I think, shouldn't it be that young men.

01:32:12.000 In particular, should not care about that kind of thing.

01:32:15.000 I don't know where it comes from.

01:32:17.000 And I always think about it in terms of young men should like action, should like being unfiltered, being honest, being tough, being cool, not caring what people think.

01:32:28.000 I mean, the archetype of a man is like a Clint Eastwood, a Steve McQueen.

01:32:32.000 These days, the archetype of a man is like Seth Rogen it's like a chuckling, drugged out doofus who has all the right opinions and is nice to his girlfriend.

01:32:42.000 So I don't know.

01:32:43.000 A lot of people piss me off like that, but gradually I think that'll change.

01:32:47.000 B Fly says, Hey, Nick, what do you think of Medicare's interactions with Baked Alaska?

01:32:52.000 Well, I don't really know what went on between the two.

01:32:56.000 I am a personal friend of Baked Alaska, so I didn't agree with everything that was going on at the time, but he's my friend.

01:33:03.000 And I am loyal to my friends.

01:33:05.000 I think that's far more important.

01:33:07.000 And I've always been that way.

01:33:08.000 You know, people say I'm a bridge burner, but if you don't cross me, if you don't attack me, if you don't give me a reason, I'm a very loyal person.

01:33:16.000 And even with Paul Nealon, he was doing things that were reprehensible.

01:33:19.000 And all I did was offer, well, I said I can't really stand by some of the things he said.

01:33:23.000 And he viciously attacked me.

01:33:24.000 And he deserved a lot worse than what I had said.

01:33:29.000 But that's just how it is.

01:33:31.000 So, Baked Alaska's my friend.

01:33:33.000 I didn't agree with everything that went on on either side, but I like him.

01:33:38.000 He's always been good to me.

01:33:40.000 I didn't see any reason to attack him.

01:33:42.000 Cloudstar says I was one of Tim Heidegger's biggest fans, but I suspected later that he might have a dark side, and then he went full cuck.

01:33:50.000 Oh, well, I can live without it.

01:33:51.000 Yeah, I never really found him very funny.

01:33:54.000 People who are cucks tend not to be very funny. 0.76

01:33:58.000 And let's see.

01:33:59.000 Brandon Hansen says Brian Singer, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, Kevin Spacey, Weinstein, etc. 0.78

01:34:05.000 We need Mel Gibson, peace be upon him, to root out the degenerate pedophiles.

01:34:10.000 Yeah, well, it's true.

01:34:11.000 Mel Gibson said something which was not so bad, in my opinion, and got totally ruined. 0.73

01:34:16.000 And these people are rapists, and they get off scot free in many cases.

01:34:21.000 Mushroom says, Hey, Nick, what's the difference between Fox and other MSM corporations? 0.80

01:34:26.000 Well, if you look at the top big six media corporations and you look at who owns them, there's one crucial distinction between the owner of Fox, who I believe is Rupert Murdoch, and the others.

01:34:37.000 For example, Bob Iger, who's one, and all the others.

01:34:42.000 And you just got to look into that.

01:34:44.000 Who's the other one?

01:34:45.000 Sumner, Redstone, people like that.

01:34:48.000 Abra Bruss says, Look up the Franklin scandal.

01:34:52.000 And there's all kinds of pedophilia scandals, Boys for Sale, Dutroux Affair.

01:34:57.000 Don't forget the Pizzagate Origin Cheese Bay.

01:35:00.000 God bless, Nick.

01:35:01.000 Well, appreciate it.

01:35:02.000 I'll check that out. 0.99

01:35:06.000 And Hell Noss says Catholicism is cucked, Lutheranism is red pill. 0.97

01:35:09.000 Yeah, not really. 0.90

01:35:10.000 If you look at some of the Protestants that have come about because of the Reformation, I think you would not say that so much, right?

01:35:18.000 Say what you will about the Catholic Church, but we're not flying the rainbow flag anytime soon, right?

01:35:23.000 And let's see, we got one more stream lab from one lone patriot who said, Nick, we Mormons still love you.

01:35:28.000 And hey, I love Mormons too, but we obviously just have disagreements, strong differences.

01:35:35.000 And that's okay.

01:35:35.000 That's okay.

01:35:36.000 The important thing is that we know who the real enemy is, which is atheists, which is modernists, which is Islam to an extent. 0.95

01:35:45.000 And as long as we understand that that common enemy is before us, before we attack each other, then we're fine. 1.00

01:35:51.000 You know, we'll sort it out when we purge the world of those kinds of people. 1.00

01:35:55.000 Not exactly, we don't want to purge the world of Muslims, but. 1.00

01:35:58.000 We certainly want to root out atheism, degeneracy, modernism, and Islam can have its sphere over there. 1.00

01:36:06.000 And then we'll figure out what happens in our country, right? 1.00

01:36:10.000 But it looks like that's going to do it for us tonight.

01:36:13.000 That's our show.

01:36:14.000 Pretty fun show. 0.72

01:36:15.000 I think Medicare's a great guest.

01:36:16.000 Funning, smart guy, good conversation.

01:36:19.000 So I hope you all enjoyed it.

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01:37:35.000 Big thank you to Medeker for coming on the show and being a great guest.

01:37:39.000 Thanks to everybody who watched the show.

01:37:41.000 Thanks to premium members, streamlabbers, super chatters.

01:37:44.000 We love all you folks.

01:37:46.000 And we'll see you tomorrow.

01:37:47.000 Tomorrow I will be joined by Ali Akbar, who is a Republican strategist.

01:37:52.000 And then Friday we are joined by Michael Ma, who is actually a messenger for the Bronze Age pervert.

01:37:59.000 So we'll be discussing the Bronze Age mindset book with Mike Ma, and he'll have some. 0.82

01:38:04.000 Some talking points from BAP himself.

01:38:07.000 So it should be a fun week.

01:38:08.000 Until then, we will see you tomorrow.

01:38:10.000 Have a great rest of your evening.

01:38:17.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo.

01:38:23.000 It's going to be only America first, America first.

01:38:32.000 The American people will come first once again.

01:38:44.000 With respect.

01:39:02.000 America

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - July 25, 2018

Culture Wars feat. Mister Metokur | America First Ep. 207

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