America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Delaying the Electoral Winter | America First Ep. 38

00:00:01.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:02.000 You are watching America First.

00:00:04.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes, and we have a great show for you tonight.

00:00:08.000 And it looks like here we are again.

00:00:11.000 Just when I thought I was out, just when I thought we were finally done with the optics conversation, they dragged me back in.

00:00:19.000 They dragged me back in.

00:00:21.000 And here we are, another night, another talk about what needs to be done.

00:00:25.000 It's not hard, guys.

00:00:27.000 It's not difficult.

00:00:29.000 Should be very easy, actually, if you've been following me on Twitter, if you've been following this exchange.

00:00:34.000 And I'll keep it brief for people that aren't following the Twitter drama so closely that want to hear about the news and the current events.

00:00:41.000 But it's worth a mention.

00:00:42.000 It's worth talking about very briefly because I'm sure I'll be talking about it in the future with other people on this show or on other shows.

00:00:51.000 But if you were watching on Twitter shortly before this program began to air, just a moment ago, I had tweeted last night that a good test for optics for the right wing, a good test for rhetoric.

00:01:05.000 Basically, a litmus test for what we should be pursuing in terms of our politics.

00:01:10.000 A good litmus test is will this be something that we could sell?

00:01:14.000 Is this something that would be palatable to a blue collar Catholic white guy in Wisconsin?

00:01:21.000 And I say this for a variety of reasons.

00:01:24.000 I hear a lot of the LARPing on the religious side, on the historical side, on the political side from the alt right.

00:01:30.000 For example, I hear about white Shinto from Eli Mosley and a little bit to a lesser extent James.

00:01:38.000 And they talk about how we're going to adapt a Japanese racial folk religion to America, and that is supposed to supplant Christianity.

00:01:46.000 And I think to myself, a good way to rule out things like this, a good way to rule out things like some of the rhetoric we hear from the more extreme elements, from Adam Wofford and from the siege crowd, is to think if I were talking to somebody in Janesville, Wisconsin, if I were talking to somebody like Paul Nealon, would this be palatable?

00:02:07.000 Could they defend this to somebody at the lunch table?

00:02:10.000 Could they defend this to their family at the dinner table or at Thanksgiving?

00:02:15.000 Is this something that a regular, everyday American could buy?

00:02:18.000 And I use the example of a white, blue collar, Catholic Wisconsinite because you look at the voting block, which will be important to us in the future nationalists, conservatives, white people.

00:02:31.000 And electorally, the most important block and the most significant block for us, the greatest room for growth, is consolidating a white vote, consolidating an implicit and borderline explicit white vote.

00:02:44.000 That vote exists in Wisconsin. 0.60

00:02:46.000 It's in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, Minnesota.

00:02:50.000 These are the votes that we can take away from the Democrats.

00:02:53.000 These are the votes we can take away from the liberals.

00:02:56.000 These are the people who are prime for a turn, prime to be convinced to our side.

00:03:02.000 These are people who, whether they sway right or left on economics, whether they sway right or left on foreign policy or trade, they have the fundamentals down of what the country's culture should look like. 0.98

00:03:14.000 Should it be Christian? 0.65

00:03:15.000 Should it be like the 1960s or should it be this atheist, pagan, degenerate hellhole like the 2010s have been, like the cosmopolitans want it to be? 0.91

00:03:26.000 And so I tweet this.

00:03:27.000 I think it's pretty straightforward. 0.77

00:03:29.000 And Richard Spencer responds something to the effect that these Wisconsin blue collar Catholic people have not influenced culture, social policy, social norms for the past century. 0.69

00:03:41.000 And thus we should not be appealing to them but rather to other people. 0.60

00:03:46.000 And Mike Enoch jumps in, and some other people jump in.

00:03:49.000 And I understand where they're coming from.

00:03:50.000 I really do.

00:03:52.000 And I respect what they're trying to do.

00:03:54.000 I understand what they're trying to do.

00:03:56.000 They are aiming, and Mike Enoch said this on the same thread they are aiming for a cultural transformation.

00:04:01.000 Their vision is not so much electoral, it's not so much concrete political, like they want to see certain policies passed, but it's more of this qualitative shift.

00:04:13.000 And it's an ambitious project in the zeitgeist, in the culture at large.

00:04:18.000 And I understand this.

00:04:19.000 That's why they're trying to appeal to young people.

00:04:20.000 That's why they go to the college campuses and they try to appeal to young people because they understand that young people will be the future. 0.64

00:04:27.000 Young people, Generation Z is more traditional. 0.82

00:04:30.000 More pro white.

00:04:31.000 They will understand the realities of a multi ethnic country and what that entails. 0.85

00:04:36.000 And so they're trying to shift the Overton window to the right. 0.97

00:04:39.000 And I get that.

00:04:40.000 But my beef, and we've talked about it for the past few days on this show since Wednesday of last week, and that's why I'd like to get off of it in a moment.

00:04:48.000 The challenge is this we have a very short window in terms of all the concrete things that these people would like to ignore or they don't think are a priority.

00:04:59.000 For example, Richard Spencer might not care what the Wisconsinites think.

00:05:03.000 Might not care if he makes these people uncomfortable.

00:05:06.000 That's what Mike Enoch said.

00:05:07.000 But you have to consider that in 2016, Donald Trump won the election and Hillary Clinton didn't.

00:05:14.000 Because the white, blue collar voters in Wisconsin and people like them in Michigan and in Ohio and in Iowa and in North Carolina and in all other places across the country voted for Donald Trump, voted for Steve Bannon's economic nationalism, his America First agenda.

00:05:31.000 Might be civic nat, you know, might be civ nat, cucky kind of stuff, but that's what won.

00:05:36.000 And by virtue of Donald Trump winning that election in those states, winning those electoral votes, instead of seeing war in the Middle East, instead of seeing the TPP, instead of seeing higher taxes, instead of seeing nationalized health care, instead of seeing the legalization of 40 million illegal immigrants, instead of the acceleration of our electoral winter in places like Texas, Arizona, Nevada, Florida, and on and on and on, we are seeing somebody who is committed to building a wall.

00:06:06.000 The prototypes have been constructed.

00:06:08.000 Somebody that's committed to building a wall.

00:06:10.000 To ending refugee resettlement in the United States.

00:06:12.000 We'll talk about that later.

00:06:13.000 There's some new developments today.

00:06:15.000 Somebody who's committed to destroying both parties that are pro amnesty, that are pro free trade, pro global government.

00:06:23.000 And these things matter.

00:06:24.000 These things in the short term do matter.

00:06:27.000 And that's where I come from.

00:06:28.000 So I don't think there's a significant disagreement in terms of the goals, because I think the goals are separate.

00:06:35.000 If we were trying to do something like Spencer is, which is a post American identitarian project, I would say he's doing it well.

00:06:43.000 I would say he's doing what he intends to do, and I'm doing what I intend to do.

00:06:49.000 So I don't think that that means we should, you know, there's like fighting going on.

00:06:54.000 I don't think it's like there's this civil war.

00:06:56.000 I don't want people to think like I'm the antithesis to Spencer, and I'm like, I don't want people to think like it's Spencer versus me for control.

00:07:04.000 Like, that's not at all what I'm going for.

00:07:06.000 I think we genuinely are after separate things, and for the same reason.

00:07:11.000 I think Spencer thinks.

00:07:12.000 His goals will be better for the country and ultimately are just and right.

00:07:17.000 And I feel the same way about mine.

00:07:19.000 But I don't think there's too much overlap in terms of what we're trying to accomplish and how to accomplish those things.

00:07:24.000 I really think we're pursuing separate ends.

00:07:26.000 And it's a matter of, you know, what do the people think is the priority here?

00:07:32.000 Is it something that we can afford to give up on that we just concede the House, the Senate, the White House to the Democrats for 100 years?

00:07:40.000 Is that a concession we're willing to make?

00:07:43.000 In the hopes that we can change the culture through college tours?

00:07:46.000 I don't know.

00:07:46.000 And I'm not even, I'm not trying to say that in a loaded way.

00:07:50.000 I don't, I genuinely don't know because we've seen in the past that cultural movements are very impactful on politics.

00:07:56.000 We know that politics is downstream from culture and planting these seeds in the short term is important.

00:08:01.000 But, you know, of course, I come from the other side that once we see that electoral winter happen, once we see this demographic winter start to unfold, it's irreversible.

00:08:15.000 There's no turning back.

00:08:16.000 And as much as we would like to see a cultural transformation, as much as we would like to see people.

00:08:22.000 Be sympathetic to casual Roman salutes, perhaps, and we can work on that.

00:08:28.000 In the meantime, tax policy is important.

00:08:31.000 In the meantime, immigration policy is important.

00:08:34.000 So that's the last we'll say about optics for this week.

00:08:37.000 I know I promised yesterday that would be the last optics talk, but, you know, like I said, just when I think about it, they drag me back into the optics conversation.

00:08:44.000 But there are some current events which I think are pursuant to this conversation.

00:08:49.000 I think they're very important, but it'll be a nice change of pace to talk about something other than optics.

00:08:54.000 I know some people don't enjoy that as much as others, but one of the major developments, of course, that we saw today was with Jeff Flake.

00:09:03.000 Senator Jeff Flake from Arizona announced this afternoon that he would not be seeking re election in the 2018 GOP primary.

00:09:12.000 And of course, we know why that is.

00:09:14.000 We know why he's not seeking re election.

00:09:17.000 He gave a big dramatic speech on the floor of the Senate today about how he cannot be complicit.

00:09:25.000 To the madness of Donald Trump, and he's quitting.

00:09:28.000 It has nothing to do with the fact that he's getting crushed in the polls.

00:09:32.000 It has nothing to do with the fact that it would have been impossible for him to win in 2018.

00:09:38.000 It would have been a humiliating, embarrassing loss that he would have been retired by people like Steve Bannon and Donald Trump.

00:09:45.000 Nothing to do with that.

00:09:46.000 No, no, no.

00:09:47.000 You see, it was about being complicit in the rude, mean regime of Donald Trump that he announced he's leaving.

00:09:56.000 I'm listening to his speech.

00:09:58.000 I'm trying so hard.

00:09:59.000 I'm trying so hard to give it a fair hearing, you know, and, you know, maybe we'll hear these guys out, but it's impossible.

00:10:07.000 I'll read you a little excerpt here from Jeff Flake's speech.

00:10:11.000 He says, quote, reckless, outrageous, and undignified behavior has become excused and countenanced as, quote, telling it like it is when it is actually just reckless, outrageous, and undignified.

00:10:25.000 And when such behavior emanates from the top of our government, It is something else.

00:10:30.000 It is dangerous to a democracy.

00:10:32.000 Such behavior does not project strength because our strength comes from our values.

00:10:37.000 It instead projects a corruption of the spirit and weakness.

00:10:41.000 And you listen to these speeches, and it's so funny to me because these people, for how many years?

00:10:48.000 For 16 years.

00:10:49.000 No, I'm sorry.

00:10:50.000 For 30 years, they didn't give a damn about anything.

00:10:53.000 Didn't give a damn about the plunder of our resources through high taxes, through bad trade deals.

00:10:59.000 Through the devaluation of our currency with the Federal Reserve.

00:11:03.000 For 30 years, they didn't care about the invasion of our country from the South, from the East, from the West by the Third World invaders.

00:11:10.000 They didn't care about the double standard that the middle class pays how much in taxes every year? 0.55

00:11:15.000 We give something like 40% in taxes every year. 0.99

00:11:18.000 And these people that wash up on our shores, they get free education, they get free health care, they get free everything. 1.00

00:11:24.000 They get Social Security, and they haven't paid into the system at all.

00:11:27.000 For 30 years, they've been silent on everything.

00:11:30.000 They've been silent on everything their constituents cared about.

00:11:33.000 The deaths of their constituents' children at the hands of radical Islamic terrorists, at the hands of illegal immigrants or just plain regular immigrants, at the hands of drug abuse that is imported from Mexico.

00:11:45.000 Silent on that. 0.61

00:11:46.000 But God forbid, God forbid, we finally get a real leader in the White House who is willing to stand up to all of that, willing to stand up and give a voice to the voiceless, give a voice to the constituents that have been subject to the worst elements of this hostile, occupied regime.

00:12:04.000 And now, at long last, our politicians stand up and now they have a big problem.

00:12:10.000 Now they're going to give their grandiose speeches.

00:12:13.000 Now they have passion in their voices.

00:12:16.000 And what is it about?

00:12:18.000 What do they care so much about?

00:12:20.000 It's about.

00:12:21.000 The quality of the dialogue.

00:12:23.000 It's about, oh, it's about outrageous and reckless rhetoric.

00:12:27.000 It's about words.

00:12:28.000 It's about platitudes.

00:12:30.000 Remember?

00:12:32.000 Shameful. 0.99

00:12:32.000 These people are shameful. 0.99

00:12:34.000 Scum of the earth. 1.00

00:12:36.000 Throw all these bastards out. 1.00

00:12:38.000 Honestly, I am so, you know, when people talk about things that are going on, when people talk about the drugs and the gangs and the crime and the terrorists, it makes me mad. 1.00

00:12:47.000 But more than anything, it makes me mad because we have people that we elect in our own government.

00:12:52.000 Who we pay every year 40% of our income.

00:12:55.000 And they go to Washington, D.C. on our dime and they get to wear their big fancy suits and they get to go to these dinners and they get to live like royalty and they screw us over.

00:13:05.000 They plunder our wallets every day.

00:13:07.000 They are directly responsible for the deaths of our children, for the sacrifice of our brothers and sisters overseas.

00:13:14.000 And finally, finally, when they stand up to say something, it's about democracy, it's about platitudes, it's about useless words and rhetoric.

00:13:24.000 Politicians are to be regarded as men who have learned to talk and not to act.

00:13:31.000 That's what Oswald Mosley said.

00:13:33.000 And it couldn't be further from the truth, or rather, it is entirely the truth in this day and age and has been for 30 years.

00:13:40.000 So when I see this stuff, it just makes my blood boil.

00:13:44.000 And this is the kind of message that will win us the election, that will win us the culture.

00:13:50.000 Forget about a college rally, forget about elections.

00:13:53.000 This is what will win us today.

00:13:55.000 Because everybody understands this.

00:13:57.000 Everybody sees this for what it is.

00:13:58.000 That's why this guy wouldn't be able to win in Arizona.

00:14:02.000 He goes on to say, after he gives his big dramatic speech in the Senate, he goes on to say that, oh, you know, I wouldn't run because it would be a very narrow path of victory for me.

00:14:12.000 He says, a traditional Republican like myself, I love when they give in the traditional.

00:14:12.000 Get this.

00:14:17.000 Yeah, because traditional, our frame of reference for traditional is 25 years, right?

00:14:22.000 He says, a traditional Republican like myself, who's pro free trade and pro immigration, could not win.

00:14:28.000 There's nothing traditional about that.

00:14:30.000 There's nothing American about that.

00:14:32.000 And he knows that he couldn't win on that platform.

00:14:35.000 He knows that Donald Trump has shifted the center so far to the right for our people, for white America, for centrists, for Republicans, that to just be George W. Bush, he wouldn't stand a chance.

00:14:49.000 Not a chance in hell could he win a state like Arizona being pro immigration.

00:14:54.000 And what does that tell you? 0.62

00:14:55.000 What does that tell you?

00:14:56.000 I mean, we get mad at the politicians who do this kind of stuff to us, but shame on us for not realizing.

00:15:02.000 The bountiful, political, fertile ground there is for us to plant our seeds when you have guys like Jeff Flake, when you have guys like Steve Bannon.

00:15:11.000 That's the real fight.

00:15:12.000 That's the fight that matters, right? 0.88

00:15:14.000 And this Jeff Flake kills me.

00:15:18.000 It really kills me because, you know, he goes up there and he talks about how it's about the rhetoric and the dialogue and all of this.

00:15:27.000 Don't you see?

00:15:28.000 We don't care.

00:15:30.000 We don't care about that.

00:15:32.000 I don't think it matters to people in Wisconsin or Michigan.

00:15:35.000 Or in any other states for that matter, in Arizona for that matter, what kind of language the president uses.

00:15:41.000 You know, you think that anybody changes their vote in 2018 or 2020 because of this Trump scandal with the fallen soldier's widow?

00:15:51.000 You think that has any?

00:15:52.000 Do you think that moves the needle at all?

00:15:54.000 Do you think Eminem's little rap song at the BET Awards, do you think that moved the needle at all for these people?

00:16:01.000 You think the Russia stuff, you think if they talk about Paul Manafort a little bit more, that's going to move the needle in these swing states?

00:16:08.000 Of course not.

00:16:10.000 Of course not.

00:16:11.000 People don't care about that because people care about the issues.

00:16:15.000 As things get worse before they start to get better, as people like Donald Trump rise up, people like Paul Nealon and others, these insurgent candidates, we stand to gain everything.

00:16:26.000 And that's why we have to be especially prudent in our messaging and in our tactics to not squander what we have in front of us.

00:16:34.000 I mean, consider this.

00:16:36.000 Consider this.

00:16:38.000 Four years ago, Mitt Romney runs unabashedly pro immigration, unabashedly pro legal immigration, and probably.

00:16:46.000 Pro pathway to citizenship would have given these people a full pathway to citizenship.

00:16:51.000 Four years ago, John, or four years before that, rather, John McCain, same thing.

00:16:56.000 In the same year, 2008, you had a President George W. Bush, a Republican, who let in, in the first five years of his presidency, more immigrants than ever before in American history.

00:17:07.000 Eight million immigrants in the first five years of his presidency.

00:17:10.000 Four million, and this is telling, four million legal, four million illegal, and those are the illegals we know about.

00:17:17.000 Do you not understand that in a matter of, what was it, 15 months of the 2016 election, Donald Trump made it impossible?

00:17:26.000 He made it impossible for a moderate pro immigration Republican to win a Senate office in a safe Republican seat.

00:17:34.000 Do you not understand the significance of this?

00:17:37.000 That Marco Rubio was the favorite to win in the Republican primary.

00:17:42.000 Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, and Ted Cruz, these were the favorites.

00:17:45.000 Not so much Ted Cruz, that was more.

00:17:47.000 Because he was like Donald Trump.

00:17:49.000 But so let's say Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush are the favorites.

00:17:52.000 Marco Rubio sponsored the Gang of Eight bill, which supported amnesty.

00:17:56.000 Jeb Bush had a Mexican wife and he was speaking Spanish to everybody.

00:18:00.000 Do you not understand the significance that these people were supposed to be the successors to George W. Bush?

00:18:07.000 These were the people that were supposed to be the reaction to eight years of Marxism with Barack Obama and in a matter of 15 months, economic nationalism, whatever you want to call it, Steve Bannon, Donald Trump.

00:18:20.000 They took that and made it unwinnable.

00:18:23.000 In 15 months, they made it impossible for a Republican to run on that.

00:18:30.000 That's the power of the movement we're talking about.

00:18:32.000 That's the power of the optics, the rhetoric, the strategy that we have before us that people want to turn their nose up at and say, you know, not good enough.

00:18:44.000 I don't like that.

00:18:45.000 Oh, Steve Bannon, he countersignaled my organization, which is 1,000 members strong.

00:18:52.000 You know, Donald Trump, who got 62 million people to vote for him, who raised $700 million in campaign funds.

00:19:01.000 Yeah, he countersignaled my organization of a thousand people with maybe a million dollars if you're lucky, and therefore he's dead to us.

00:19:10.000 They've turned their back on us.

00:19:12.000 Never mind, never mind that they have constructed physical prototypes and spent, I think it's millions or billions of dollars on that.

00:19:21.000 I think they spent $10 billion on the prototypes.

00:19:25.000 That doesn't sound right.

00:19:26.000 Maybe it was 10 million.

00:19:28.000 But never mind the fact that they are in power.

00:19:31.000 They are in the West Wing, physically constructing a physical barrier between the United States of America and Mexico.

00:19:39.000 And they're testing it all this month.

00:19:40.000 They have federal money.

00:19:42.000 They've been constructed.

00:19:44.000 Never mind all that.

00:19:45.000 No, no, no, no.

00:19:46.000 They counter signaled white nationalism. 0.82

00:19:49.000 They counter signaled the people that shoot at protesters and yell Hail Hitler.

00:19:54.000 And therefore, they've turned their backs on us and should be discarded. 0.92

00:19:58.000 Madness.

00:19:59.000 Madness.

00:20:01.000 So that's Jeff Flake.

00:20:03.000 Jeff Flake, it's good that he's going away.

00:20:06.000 And I think we'll see a lot more of this.

00:20:08.000 Steve Bannon commented reportedly he reacted to this and essentially said nobody's safe.

00:20:13.000 They'll all end up like Jeff Flake.

00:20:16.000 Either they will be forced to retire, forced to not run because they would lose, or they'll be defeated in the primary.

00:20:24.000 So I think it's a beautiful thing that Bannon and Trump are doing.

00:20:28.000 And every day, every day, the white pillars, like me, like myself, have been vindicated.

00:20:33.000 I mean, that's been the norm for the past two years.

00:20:37.000 I predicted Donald Trump would win the election.

00:20:40.000 I remember, if you guys are familiar with the service Predicted, it's like where you can bet on political events.

00:20:46.000 I remember I bet.

00:20:47.000 $100 that Trump would win after the GOP primary in July of 2016.

00:20:53.000 I bet another $100 that Trump would win on 9 11 of 2016 when Hillary Clinton fainted in New York City.

00:21:01.000 And I bet another, I think I bet $150 additionally on October 12th, the night of the second debate, after Donald Trump told Hillary Clinton she would be in jail if someone like him would be in charge of the law in this country.

00:21:16.000 I was right when I said, Donald Trump would appoint conservative Supreme Court justices.

00:21:20.000 I was right when I said that Donald Trump wasn't going to war in Syria.

00:21:23.000 That the missile strike in April of this year, the single, or rather, it was 52 missiles that were fired on one airport in Syria, that that was a display of force to Xi Jinping, who was staying at Mar a Lago that weekend. 0.62

00:21:36.000 And I was right.

00:21:37.000 I was right when I said that Donald Trump was not going to enshrine DACA in law, and that just got shot down last week.

00:21:42.000 And I was right with President Trump on the refugee resettlement, and that is a perfect segue into the next topic here.

00:21:50.000 It was announced today that as a result of the 120 day ban on refugees expiring, we remember the second travel ban that went into effect after it was upheld by the Supreme Court a couple of months ago.

00:22:04.000 That expired today so that refugees could resume coming in.

00:22:08.000 And Donald Trump on the same day passed a memo or a memorandum that banned refugees that do not have higher level security screening from Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Mali, North Korea, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen.

00:22:23.000 There's your Muslim ban.

00:22:25.000 And the wall's going up. 0.96

00:22:26.000 So, I mean, there it is.

00:22:28.000 The people that have supported President Trump, the people that have been in line with Bannon and Trump and American nationalism and have not lost hope in the implicit, we've been winning every day.

00:22:40.000 We've been winning every month.

00:22:41.000 We've been vindicated every month that we are right, that this is accurate, what we're going for, that this is working.

00:22:49.000 So, I mean, there it is.

00:22:50.000 You want to look at the people that are influencing the culture.

00:22:53.000 Look no further than Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos.

00:22:56.000 Sorry, I don't want it to be like that either. 0.97

00:22:59.000 It's a damn shame. 0.98

00:22:59.000 It's a shame. 0.98

00:23:01.000 But you remember the crowds that they drew.

00:23:04.000 Milo used to draw.

00:23:06.000 Ben Shapiro still draws.

00:23:07.000 And you've got to give the devil their due.

00:23:09.000 I don't agree with them.

00:23:10.000 I think they're shills. 1.00

00:23:12.000 I think they're shekel people. 1.00

00:23:14.000 They're in it for the money. 1.00

00:23:16.000 But you look at the crowds that Milo used to draw.

00:23:18.000 He went on a cross country tour, and every place that he showed up, they'd have hundreds of people show up.

00:23:24.000 There'd be protests.

00:23:25.000 There would be all kinds of fanfare.

00:23:27.000 Obviously, that culminated in Berkeley.

00:23:30.000 I think that was towards the end of the spring of this year.

00:23:33.000 And Ben Shapiro, even everywhere he goes, there's massive crowds, there's massive protests.

00:23:38.000 And, you know, like I said, I don't like these people.

00:23:41.000 They're bad people.

00:23:42.000 You know, Milo Yiannopoulos, obviously, he's got some sexual things going on. 0.93

00:23:47.000 There's all kinds of sexual degeneracy.

00:23:49.000 You don't even have to talk about the things that are rumored to be going on with Milo.

00:23:53.000 There's the things he openly flaunts and brags about. 0.98

00:23:56.000 And then you have the Zionist supremacist, a racial supremacist, and Ben Shapiro, and a liar at that. 0.96

00:24:02.000 So I don't like it. 0.97

00:24:03.000 I don't like it as much as the next guy.

00:24:05.000 But you want to look at the people transforming the culture and look at where the followers are, look at the ascendancy.

00:24:13.000 Of InfoWars, of Paul Joseph Watson, Milo, Ben Shapiro, Cernovich, and the others.

00:24:17.000 Can't argue with that.

00:24:18.000 You just can't.

00:24:20.000 To say that we're going to rival that with like Charlottesville or this Gainesville thing, it's a fantasy.

00:24:29.000 It is just a fantasy.

00:24:31.000 There's just not enough mass appeal.

00:24:33.000 It's too out there, it's too extreme.

00:24:36.000 And moreover, the people are not willing to do what it takes to affect change in the way that they want to see it.

00:24:43.000 You know, they point to like, Other cultural movements like the Frankfurt School, for example.

00:24:48.000 But the Frankfurt School wasn't influential because they were doing rallies and they were holding thousand man rallies where people get killed.

00:24:56.000 They weren't like holding college speaking tours where there were massive protests and they were suing people.

00:25:01.000 No, no, they were infiltrating academia.

00:25:04.000 They were infiltrating Hollywood.

00:25:06.000 They were infiltrating high finance.

00:25:08.000 They were infiltrating, they had their own country, you know?

00:25:11.000 So this idea that like we're rivaling anything that happened before and like that's some kind of parallel, I'd like.

00:25:18.000 Maybe I'd like to see that kind of strategy play out, but I'm not seeing it play out.

00:25:22.000 I'm seeing a hybrid of two things, and it's failing.

00:25:26.000 So we have to look at the things that are working.

00:25:29.000 Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, the alt light, we can change them for the better, but we have to be reasonable.

00:25:36.000 We have to be pragmatic about how we're going to change that.

00:25:40.000 It's not a big leap to go from these alt light guys and the Steve Bannon and the Donald Trump to some of the things we're saying, so long as we're tactful about saying them.

00:25:49.000 You know, you can watch my speech from a couple of weeks ago at US Inc., where I talk about immigration.

00:25:57.000 It's called Putting America First.

00:25:59.000 If you look that up on YouTube, watch that speech.

00:26:02.000 That is a speech that is a short leap from any one of these guys Ben Shapiro, Milo.

00:26:08.000 I had people in the audience who were black, who were Asian, who were Hispanic, who told me what a great speech it was.

00:26:14.000 And implicitly, it was many of the things that the alt-right agrees with.

00:26:18.000 Implicitly, it was high-power-level stuff.

00:26:21.000 There were some major red pills in there.

00:26:23.000 But it was implicit.

00:26:25.000 It was tactful. 0.97

00:26:26.000 And because of that, I got boomers. 1.00

00:26:28.000 I got minorities. 1.00

00:26:29.000 I got, you know, like basic bitch Republicans to jump on the bandwagon of ending all legal immigration. 1.00

00:26:36.000 Like, think of that. 0.97

00:26:37.000 Of suspending entitlements so that immigrants will self deport. 0.99

00:26:42.000 Because I was tactful. 0.75

00:26:43.000 Because I used the rhetoric.

00:26:45.000 Because I used the optics of Bannon, of Trump, of some of these other guys.

00:26:49.000 And I didn't do any fasci stuff.

00:26:51.000 I didn't do any self indulgent 4chan, you know, meme tier stuff.

00:26:57.000 And that's what we have to learn from.

00:26:58.000 That's what we have to learn how to do, how to be tactful.

00:27:02.000 You know, and look no further than the president.

00:27:04.000 I mean, do you understand that we still have to win elections?

00:27:07.000 That's kind of the takeaway from that.

00:27:10.000 Still have to win elections, and it would be prudent to win elections.

00:27:12.000 That's how we could get it forward.

00:27:14.000 But so that is the optics situation.

00:27:17.000 Enough about that. 0.62

00:27:18.000 And we kind of slapped into that the Jeff Flake story and the refugee story. 0.97

00:27:24.000 But white pills all around. 1.00

00:27:26.000 I mean, just.

00:27:27.000 Just in and of itself, I mean, aside from the optics talk, I think it's a good thing that we see that President Trump really is our guy.

00:27:35.000 You know, if we could divorce it from trying to lecture people about why, you know, that's exemplary of good optics, just in the politics of itself, Donald Trump has proven that he is absolutely our guy.

00:27:48.000 And I'm very tired of hearing people like doubt him and get blackpilled about him or say like, you know, he's against us.

00:27:55.000 Because I hear that all the time from people I know, and every time they get proven wrong.

00:28:00.000 You know, everybody who said that he was going to turn his back on us with immigration.

00:28:04.000 I mean, like, do you remember?

00:28:07.000 The magnitude of that, like how intense the depression was on the right wing when the supposed DACA deal was struck between Trump and Pelosi and Schumer.

00:28:19.000 I mean, all we had was a statement from Chuck Schumer that evening.

00:28:22.000 Nothing confirmed, no deal, no legislation, which is what I said, by the way.

00:28:27.000 And everybody from alt light to alt right was jumping the bandwagon, jumping ship. 0.99

00:28:33.000 Trump is a cuck. 0.99

00:28:34.000 Trump has been taken over. 1.00

00:28:35.000 They're poisoning his food.

00:28:37.000 Kelly's poisoning his food.

00:28:38.000 He's slurring his words after he eats dinner.

00:28:42.000 And I went on Nationalist Review.

00:28:43.000 I went on America First.

00:28:45.000 And I said, look, you know, if there's legislation, if there's a bill and he supports it and people in Congress support it, it'll be time to panic.

00:28:54.000 I will jump off the Trump train.

00:28:55.000 I said, but I don't think that's the case.

00:28:57.000 I said, look, he ran on this platform.

00:29:00.000 I said, he's been talking about these issues for 40 years.

00:29:04.000 I don't think he's going to quit them because he got a little bit of good press coverage.

00:29:08.000 And everybody said, oh, Nick, you're young and naive.

00:29:11.000 You're young and idealistic and optimistic.

00:29:14.000 You're too young to see the black pills that I've seen.

00:29:17.000 Donald Trump has gotten a taste of good press coverage with the bill he passed with Democrats for relief for Hurricane Harvey, and therefore he is definitely cucking on DACA.

00:29:27.000 And I said, you know, that's not convincing.

00:29:30.000 That's not looking at all the facts.

00:29:31.000 That just doesn't make any sense.

00:29:33.000 Lo and behold, I was right. 1.00

00:29:35.000 And the same is true with Syria. 0.97

00:29:36.000 The same is true with the refugee ban.

00:29:40.000 So going forward with this president, I think it helps to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, right?

00:29:45.000 I mean,. 0.61

00:29:47.000 I suppose there is some merit in maybe playing dumb to an extent, maybe pretending like you don't see it, because obviously that creates public pressure for the president. 0.76

00:29:58.000 And certainly people should voice their concerns. 0.69

00:30:00.000 It should be, you know, if you're going to go down this road, which is what the rhetoric suggests, based purely on the things he says, we would not support you.

00:30:09.000 We would turn against you.

00:30:10.000 We would kick you out in the midterms and in the general election.

00:30:13.000 But I think that if people keep it in the back of their heads that, That is just contrary to the facts, and we shouldn't get carried away with ourselves.

00:30:21.000 I think that'd be a major benefit because, you know, he's more than proven himself by now in the things he says and the things he's done.

00:30:28.000 I mean, do you think it's like a coincidence that Steve Miller shot down the DACA deal?

00:30:34.000 Do you think it's a coincidence that, like, rogue White House aide Stephen Miller torpedoed the grand bargain on immigration between Trump and Schumer and Pelosi?

00:30:43.000 Or do you think it's much more reasonable that Trump.

00:30:47.000 Was always against that deal.

00:30:49.000 And he did it just to service the destruction of Luther Strange in Alabama and the ascendancy of Steve Bannon and Roy Moore. 0.98

00:30:57.000 And the same is true with the refugee development today.

00:31:00.000 And it's funny, too, because I see what the mainstream media, I see The Hill does a report for today, and they say the refugee program continues.

00:31:08.000 Donald Trump passes an executive order, and refugees can start coming in the country again.

00:31:13.000 And if I saw just that, and I know a lot of people see just that from the mainstream media, And they say, whoa, Donald Trump has cucked. 0.96

00:31:21.000 He's letting in refugees.

00:31:22.000 This is not what we voted for. 1.00

00:31:23.000 But then you see from the Washington Examiner, or you see from the Daily Caller, that actually, at the same time that the refugee program supposedly resumed, he put a complete halt on all refugee resettlement from 11 or 10 Muslim countries plus North Korea indefinitely.

00:31:43.000 You know, do you see how the mainstream media manipulates people with that?

00:31:47.000 And do you see how some people on the right allow themselves, maybe deliberately, to be manipulated by that to service their own agenda, to service their own business? 1.00

00:31:57.000 Because if anybody paid like 15 minutes of attention to the story, if they just Googled, literally, if you Google refugees today, both stories will come up and you'll find that, you know, if you're a refugee from Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Mali, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen, I mean, those are like the worst Muslim countries. 0.98

00:32:18.000 I would maybe throw in like Algeria, maybe Morocco, maybe Indonesia, I don't know, maybe Pakistan, not sure. 1.00

00:32:27.000 But these are all the significant Muslim countries that is even better, in my opinion, than the original travel ban. 0.69

00:32:33.000 Because if you remember, the original travel ban was seven countries, and then the revised travel ban was six countries. 0.96

00:32:41.000 And so Donald Trump extended it to 11 countries, and that's not even in the news.

00:32:45.000 That's not even in the Hill.

00:32:47.000 That's not even in all the mainstream media sources.

00:32:49.000 So you have to question, you have to interrogate the news when you see these things.

00:32:53.000 Because I'm getting tired of having the same conversation over and over, the same cycle.

00:32:59.000 Where it's like Trump A B tests something.

00:33:02.000 He tries some strategy where he has to piss off the base.

00:33:06.000 Lo and behold, base gets pissed off.

00:33:08.000 And I have to be there and say, like, no, no, this is all part of the plan.

00:33:12.000 Everybody makes fun of me.

00:33:13.000 Three weeks later, everyone's forgotten it, and I'm completely vindicated by the news.

00:33:17.000 I'm tired of the cycle.

00:33:18.000 People just have to get smarter on this.

00:33:21.000 You know?

00:33:22.000 Like, remember, he said it was going to be a see through wall, it was going to be like a fence at the Luther Strange rally.

00:33:28.000 And I said, Something's not quite right there.

00:33:31.000 I said, if that's the case, I'm going to be pissed.

00:33:33.000 But something's not quite right there.

00:33:35.000 Lo and behold, every one of the prototypes for the wall is not see through, it's not a fence by any stretch of the imagination.

00:33:43.000 Some of them, you can see through them, but that's only because in certain parts of the border, you have to be able to see through.

00:33:49.000 But it's still a wall, it's still 30 feet tall, and nobody's going to be able to get over it.

00:33:54.000 So, got to trust.

00:33:56.000 Got to trust the president.

00:33:57.000 You're not Bill Mitchell if you suggest that you can have a reasonable opinion of the president and his motives.

00:34:04.000 But so that is. 1.00

00:34:05.000 Refugees. 0.99

00:34:06.000 We've talked about Jeff Flake.

00:34:07.000 We've talked about optics.

00:34:09.000 The one more topic we have before we will get into super chats, the last thing we'll get into before we check out our live chat is the situation with Kid Rock.

00:34:21.000 I saw today on the Howard Stern program, Kid Rock told everybody he's not running for Senate.

00:34:27.000 And I don't know about you guys, I'm a little mad about that because he made us all believe he was running and everybody believed him.

00:34:34.000 You know, remember at that concert, he had a podium, he had the American flag stuff.

00:34:39.000 And he was telling everybody all he was doing this like political, like Muhammad Ali poem thing.

00:34:46.000 And he was polling, I think, higher than most Republicans in the GOP primary for Michigan. 0.99

00:34:52.000 And then he tells us today on Howard Stern, like, you're an idiot if you thought I was running, which I'm kind of glad about, but at the same time, a little pissed about. 0.97

00:35:00.000 On the one hand, it's he should have never like said he was going to run, in my opinion, because, you know, in a way, Donald Trump set kind of a bad precedent that he was like a Hollywood guy. 0.99

00:35:12.000 And he ran.

00:35:13.000 I know he's not a Hollywood guy, but you have that appearance because he had a television show.

00:35:18.000 He was a celebrity before.

00:35:19.000 So, in a way, he sort of set this false precedent that celebrities can and should run and they'd be successful, which is wrong.

00:35:27.000 Because Donald Trump, if you look at the skill set that he had, he was a businessman, he was a billionaire.

00:35:33.000 He, you know, when you run a private company, which is different than a publicly traded company, different than a corporation, when you run a private company, it is a lot like being the chief executive of a country.

00:35:45.000 You know, you think of the roles of executive as sort of parallel, both in a company and with a country, in the sense that.

00:35:52.000 They have to have a good eye for talent.

00:35:53.000 They have to be good with organizational skills.

00:35:56.000 They have to motivate people.

00:35:58.000 They have to inspire people.

00:35:59.000 They have to get people to stick to a timeline.

00:36:02.000 They have to be able to take responsibility or assign responsibility.

00:36:06.000 They have to be strategic in their thinking.

00:36:08.000 That's why a billionaire owner of a private real estate company who's dealt with politicians and contractors would be a good fit for the chief executive of a country because you see the same skill set that's required.

00:36:22.000 That's all the difference in the world between.

00:36:24.000 A rock star who does drugs and has sex with groupies and is an artist, basically.

00:36:31.000 So it's not the same.

00:36:32.000 So, on the one hand, I was a little bit glad because I was a little bit skeptical of Donald Trump and him winning only because you do set that bad precedent that celebrities will want to run.

00:36:44.000 And it had nothing to do with the fact that he was a celebrity, but more that he was a good executive of a private company.

00:36:50.000 But then on the flip side, you wanted to see that just because it would be a slap in the face to the establishment.

00:36:56.000 It would take all the prestige, all the, you know, all the pomp out of being a congressman, which would have been great.

00:37:03.000 You know, it's a, you know, John McCain is no different than Kid Rock. 0.99

00:37:06.000 John McCain is a clown. 1.00

00:37:08.000 All these people who have been so polite about it are clowns. 0.99

00:37:11.000 You know, if they're sitting alongside Kid Rock, it would just make it a big joke, which is what it's become. 0.81

00:37:16.000 So on an accelerationist level, I would have liked to see that.

00:37:19.000 But beyond that, it was just kind of deceptive and misleading.

00:37:23.000 I wasn't thrilled with it that he said he wasn't going to run.

00:37:26.000 Wouldn't that be funny, though, if he did win?

00:37:29.000 You know, he was running and he did win, and he got into the Senate and, you know, he was making speeches or something while he was being Kid Rock.

00:37:37.000 That would be cool.

00:37:38.000 I think that would be a good thing, but now we'll never know.

00:37:42.000 But that's Kid Rock.

00:37:43.000 Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings on that front.

00:37:47.000 I'm going to jump into these super chats.

00:37:48.000 I'm sure we got a lot of feedback tonight based on the content of the show and based on what's been going on tonight.

00:37:57.000 So let's check our super chats.

00:37:59.000 And also, we have to get through them in a timely fashion because we got overdrive tonight.

00:38:05.000 And so let's see.

00:38:06.000 We got Apple Butt who says, Thanks for always keeping to the schedule.

00:38:11.000 Very responsible.

00:38:12.000 Yes, well, you know, I'd like to be consistent.

00:38:14.000 I think people appreciate the consistency of this show.

00:38:17.000 I think what you have with this sort of fringe right and even the alt light is a lot of it's a lack of follow through with a lot of these groups.

00:38:26.000 It's a lack of consistency, it's a lack of professionalism.

00:38:30.000 And I hope that just by the very virtue of, you know, being on time and wearing a suit and having a show that's a little bit put together.

00:38:38.000 I can inject, I don't know, a modicum of seriousness, of professionalism to this movement, because a lot of these guys, it's just sort of ad hoc.

00:38:46.000 You know, a lot of these projects have just sort of fallen through.

00:38:49.000 There's not really a lot of regularity, there's not really a lot of consistency, you know, and I think that's kind of embodied by Periscope, where it's like sometimes you do it, sometimes you don't.

00:38:59.000 Sometimes it's now, sometimes it's then.

00:39:01.000 Sometimes it's morning, sometimes it's night, you know, or you're in a t shirt or whatever.

00:39:05.000 So glad you appreciate the consistency.

00:39:08.000 That's what I strive for.

00:39:10.000 You know what you're getting on this show.

00:39:12.000 You get 45 minutes of rant.

00:39:15.000 You get pumpkin.

00:39:17.000 You get 15 minutes of questions.

00:39:19.000 And it's what the people like.

00:39:21.000 It's what the people like.

00:39:22.000 It works.

00:39:23.000 Connor Johnston, hope this will help give you time to upload the show to the podcast apps.

00:39:30.000 Yeah, all right, Connor.

00:39:32.000 I'm working on it, all right?

00:39:33.000 Look, James told me if you want to be mad at somebody, if you want to see some world class passing the buck, James told me last week, he said, If you retweet the links, I'll post your shows on Spreaker every night.

00:39:46.000 And I was like, okay.

00:39:47.000 And then he just stopped doing it.

00:39:50.000 So, look, people know I'm Boomer Tech over here, right?

00:39:54.000 I'd like to be able to, but it's like I download the show.

00:39:58.000 It's an hour and a half.

00:39:59.000 I don't know how to convert it.

00:40:00.000 I don't know how to convert it from like whatever file because it downloads from OBS.

00:40:05.000 That's the software I used to broadcast.

00:40:07.000 It downloads from OBS to a flash file, like a flash video.

00:40:13.000 I don't even have a player to watch this on my laptop.

00:40:17.000 Turns out you have to change that format into an MP3 format or a WAV format to upload it to Spreaker.

00:40:26.000 I don't know how to do that.

00:40:27.000 I don't even have the password of the Spreaker.

00:40:29.000 So I'll figure it out.

00:40:31.000 All right.

00:40:32.000 I'm making up a lot of excuses, but I'll figure it out.

00:40:34.000 All right, this week.

00:40:36.000 After the Halloween episode, maybe.

00:40:36.000 This week.

00:40:39.000 Alec, pursue and speak truth.

00:40:42.000 The rest will come.

00:40:43.000 Ideological guerrilla war against the establishment lies until it collapses under its own weight, then the optics are less important.

00:40:51.000 We've seen exponential growth in numbers so far.

00:40:55.000 No, I mean, look, there's all the difference in the world between being truthful and being obnoxious.

00:41:01.000 You know, I think that's what we see a lot.

00:41:04.000 And there's definitely some truth to the fact that, like, telling it like it is isn't always just being like a cad about it.

00:41:11.000 I don't think that's the case with Donald Trump.

00:41:12.000 But for example, you listen to, like, The right stuff.

00:41:15.000 And I'm sure many people would agree with what people are saying on the right stuff if you said it in a more congenial way.

00:41:22.000 If you said it in a more palatable way.

00:41:25.000 Right?

00:41:26.000 And I think that's what I'm getting at.

00:41:27.000 I think that's what many people are getting at is you can have people be against all immigration.

00:41:32.000 You could have people be for a white supermajority in the United States and not necessarily be for liberal use of racial slurs and not necessarily be in support of rallies where people get shot.

00:41:45.000 By literal Nazis who talk about how they love Hitler and throw up the Roman salute.

00:41:51.000 So, yeah, we should speak the truth, but optics do matter, and especially for a fledgling movement like this.

00:41:58.000 Howard Morton giving us the dollar.

00:42:00.000 Howard, we love the dollar from Howard Morton, the single shekel.

00:42:03.000 Don't underestimate, don't sleep on the single shekel.

00:42:08.000 Tyler Jarjura, great show today, Nick.

00:42:11.000 Curious if you've read Culture of Critique, would love to hear your thoughts on it.

00:42:15.000 Culture of Critique, that is a wrong think text.

00:42:20.000 You're not allowed to read that.

00:42:21.000 But I will say that Kevin McDonald is a very smart guy.

00:42:24.000 I will say that there are a lot of good points made in that book. 0.81

00:42:28.000 I don't want to say if I've read it or not, because, of course, if you've read certain books, that automatically makes you an anti Semite.

00:42:35.000 But I will say that there are a lot of good theories postulated in there. 0.59

00:42:39.000 It might be worth a read.

00:42:40.000 I don't know.

00:42:40.000 You tell me.

00:42:42.000 Why don't the audience, everybody go out and buy Culture of Critique, read it, and tell me how it is?

00:42:46.000 And maybe I'll read it, right?

00:42:48.000 Maybe I'll purchase it.

00:42:51.000 And we got Kevin Gomez.

00:42:53.000 Would you support slash condone America First branded posters on campus?

00:42:58.000 Would you want us to DM them, get you to approve them in some other way?

00:43:02.000 I have some great designs, and your show is very normie friendly.

00:43:05.000 I would approve of this.

00:43:06.000 Yeah, that'd be great.

00:43:07.000 That would be excellent.

00:43:09.000 But yeah, be sure.

00:43:10.000 If you're not in the Discord group already, jump in the Discord group and whatever it is, we could make a separate chat and you could post them in there or something.

00:43:18.000 But yeah, I mean, that would be great as long as the optics were good and they weren't taking our message and putting it in a bucket of poop like some of these other guys do with the optics stuff that they do that they just don't care about.

00:43:32.000 Yeah, I mean, that'd be great.

00:43:34.000 Cool Apple says How do I convince my father that Paul Ryan is bad? 0.96

00:43:40.000 And America should stay a white majority country. 0.82

00:43:42.000 I've tried, but he hasn't budged so far. 0.99

00:43:45.000 You know, it's difficult for.

00:43:48.000 It is difficult with the demographic situation for older people, that issue in particular, because they do not understand the gravity of it.

00:43:58.000 They do not understand the reality of it because it is not relevant to them, it is not a present concern for them.

00:44:06.000 When you talk to them about how this will not be a white majority country, That doesn't compute to them.

00:44:11.000 That doesn't even register to them.

00:44:13.000 They grew up in a country that was white, that had always been white.

00:44:17.000 They grew up in a country where casual racism was everywhere and on television.

00:44:21.000 So when you tell them, hey, in 50 years, I'm going to be discriminated against for being white, we're going to be a minority in our own country, that number one, it doesn't make any sense to them because that's just not what they know.

00:44:33.000 That's like telling them about flying cars and robots.

00:44:37.000 It just doesn't, what?

00:44:38.000 That's from a science fiction movie.

00:44:40.000 And then at the same time, people that are in their advanced age.

00:44:44.000 That will not be a concern for them.

00:44:46.000 They don't have to even think about it in the same way that we do.

00:44:49.000 When we think about demographics, we think about us.

00:44:51.000 We think about our children.

00:44:53.000 We think about being middle aged and having a 20 year old kid and then being killed in the streets of some major city because the demographics are not as they are now.

00:45:03.000 I mean, it's a reality for us that our kids will be a minority in their schools, in their city, in whatever else.

00:45:11.000 So that's why it's especially difficult to convince them.

00:45:13.000 I don't know.

00:45:14.000 I would just.

00:45:15.000 You have to be creative about it.

00:45:17.000 You know your parents better than I do.

00:45:18.000 You have to appeal to them in ways that make sense.

00:45:21.000 For example, say if demographics don't matter, would it be okay if 100 million Africans immigrated to America and there was just a majority black country?

00:45:32.000 What would you think of that?

00:45:34.000 Imagine that for a moment.

00:45:35.000 You have to take it to the logical extreme, I think, for people to see why, in principle, it's no good.

00:45:41.000 People understand there's something intuitively wrong with that.

00:45:44.000 And also show them the Trans Pacific Partnership that Paul Ryan supported.

00:45:48.000 Trans Pacific Partnership, the litigation that it created, that it allowed the precedent for, it would have corporations that would be able to sue sovereign governments if they impeded their sales.

00:46:01.000 I mean, you could watch my video with Paul Nealon.

00:46:03.000 He explains it a little bit better.

00:46:05.000 But it's insane what TPP allows these corporations to do.

00:46:10.000 And that's what Paul Ryan wanted.

00:46:11.000 So hit him where it hurts.

00:46:15.000 TR Pilot says, Nick, do you ever think about doing a call in show one a week?

00:46:20.000 Not one a week.

00:46:21.000 I hate call ins.

00:46:22.000 I hate call ins. 0.60

00:46:23.000 Because people are boring or they're trolls, and I don't like being rude to people.

00:46:27.000 But look, you know, I have a show, and people watch it because it's entertaining, because I do this thing every day, and I have been doing it every day like a hundred times in the however many months this show's been around.

00:46:40.000 People that call in that they want to, they think it's their moment to shine.

00:46:43.000 It's their big break.

00:46:44.000 It's time for Joe, who's had enough, who doesn't have an outlet, to suddenly go off on the I'm going to give my rant.

00:46:50.000 It's like you don't know how to talk.

00:46:52.000 You don't know.

00:46:54.000 You know, in an entertaining way.

00:46:56.000 It's just not fun for the audience.

00:46:58.000 It's not fun for me.

00:46:59.000 The only person it's fun for is the person who's calling in.

00:47:02.000 So I'll do a call in show for Halloween, and that'll be my call in show.

00:47:07.000 And maybe we'll do another one for another holiday. 0.95

00:47:10.000 But I don't like call in shows because people who call in generally suck.

00:47:14.000 The quality of call ins is generally no good.

00:47:19.000 Sorry if that's offensive to you guys.

00:47:21.000 Sorry if I'm negging you guys, but it's just true.

00:47:23.000 And I'm not even saying it like I'm the best in the world, but I do this every day for how many months?

00:47:32.000 I did 52 shows in the first run of RSBN, I did another 30 shows in the second run.

00:47:38.000 This is, I think, the 35th episode of this show.

00:47:40.000 So, I've done this show like 120 times.

00:47:43.000 I've done radio shows for four years in high school.

00:47:46.000 I did my high school TV show for a year.

00:47:49.000 I did all kinds of things.

00:47:52.000 And so, there's a reason why I do my show.

00:47:55.000 If I didn't know how to talk, I wouldn't be doing a show.

00:47:57.000 But people call in and they think, you know, you got some old Joe Schmo who doesn't want to talk to his wife about this stuff or doesn't want to talk to his kids about this stuff.

00:48:06.000 And I don't know, maybe the postman's tired of hearing them.

00:48:09.000 So he says, I'm going to call up the station and I'm going to give him a piece of my mind.

00:48:12.000 It's like, no, forget it.

00:48:15.000 Whoops, I got a.

00:48:16.000 What is that?

00:48:17.000 I got a hair in my water?

00:48:18.000 That's no good.

00:48:20.000 What kind of show are we running over here where they're putting hair in the water?

00:48:24.000 Anyway, so we'll do a call in show for Halloween and then maybe we'll do it again another time.

00:48:31.000 But every week it gets sold.

00:48:32.000 That's why I have the questions because then I can take what I like from them and do it in an entertaining way.

00:48:39.000 We got George Menta.

00:48:40.000 Can you give your thoughts on Teddy Roosevelt?

00:48:42.000 I like Teddy Roosevelt.

00:48:44.000 I think Teddy Roosevelt was one of the last great presidents, one of the last great.

00:48:49.000 Nationalist presidents.

00:48:51.000 A lot of the modern Republicans don't like the national park stuff because they're these like neoliberal big business at any cost just because it spites lefties.

00:49:02.000 You know, the National Park Service is one of the great acts of a president, in my opinion.

00:49:07.000 You have the speak softly, carry a big stick.

00:49:11.000 I mean, he kind of reshaped foreign policy.

00:49:14.000 I mean, his adaptation of the Monroe Doctrine, I think, set a pretty Healthy precedent for what an American nationalist foreign policy would look like, what a non interventionist foreign policy would look like.

00:49:27.000 Not isolationist, but a non interventionist.

00:49:29.000 So I think that was smart.

00:49:31.000 Yeah, I think he was a good guy.

00:49:33.000 The trust busting was good.

00:49:35.000 You know, I've been very much against monopolies as I've drifted farther to the right, more of an NRX as opposed to a libertarian position.

00:49:42.000 So I liked him, liked him a lot.

00:49:44.000 And of course, he was a great man.

00:49:46.000 Great role model for any man.

00:49:48.000 Tough, smart, Cool.

00:49:50.000 I mean, all the hallmarks of what a man should be.

00:49:53.000 You compare him to crying Barack Obama or crying Chuck Schumer or any of these other guys.

00:50:00.000 That's who we should be modeling our lives off of.

00:50:03.000 So I like Teddy Roosevelt.

00:50:06.000 We got Joseph Hoffner.

00:50:07.000 Am I the only one who finds Richard Spencer's speaking style annoying and autistic? 0.98

00:50:12.000 Need more like you? 1.00

00:50:14.000 Look, I don't like to get into the personal stuff.

00:50:16.000 I don't like to get into the personal attacks on Spencer because I like him.

00:50:20.000 You know, and what kind of a guy would I be if I met him in person and then I go on my show and I badmouth him and I say things about him?

00:50:27.000 But I will say that his delivery is, I don't know if it's suited to what a populist should be.

00:50:34.000 Like Spencer, he's an intellectual.

00:50:39.000 You know, he was an academic.

00:50:40.000 Smart guy, obviously.

00:50:42.000 He went to the University of Chicago.

00:50:44.000 He went to some other great schools.

00:50:45.000 He went to great schools in Europe.

00:50:48.000 Brilliant guy, really.

00:50:49.000 I mean, he gets this stuff.

00:50:50.000 He gets philosophy.

00:50:51.000 He gets history.

00:50:53.000 He gets politics.

00:50:56.000 And I think that reflects in his speaking style, which is, I don't think it's totally equipped to handle the task of what needs to be the movement.

00:51:05.000 I think that's good for a lecturer.

00:51:09.000 I think that's good for an intellectual, for a thought leader, which I think is what he is.

00:51:13.000 But I don't know if he's angling to be a politician.

00:51:16.000 I would say that what he's doing is good for what he wants to do.

00:51:19.000 But if you're trying to be a politician, I would say that style would be generally ineffective.

00:51:24.000 And I don't know if that's anything to do with, I think he's just not going for that.

00:51:28.000 Like a populist, you think of a populist like an Oswald Mosley, you think of a populist like William Jennings Bryan, like Donald Trump, where it's bombastic.

00:51:37.000 It's simple, it's loud, it's authentic, it's genuine, and more importantly, it keeps it simple and concise.

00:51:44.000 And Spencer is an intellectual.

00:51:47.000 He's a smart guy, and it comes off I don't know if it comes off as the populist message, but then again, I don't think he's going for a populist message.

00:51:55.000 So I don't know if it's autistic, and it doesn't annoy me.

00:51:59.000 I think it's interesting, but I just don't think it's suited to what a political populist movement would look like, if that's fair.

00:52:07.000 I don't know if that's a fair analysis there.

00:52:12.000 Thoughts on Greg Johnson?

00:52:14.000 I don't know that much about Greg Johnson.

00:52:16.000 He's the one that did We Searcher, right?

00:52:18.000 Or no, that's Chuck Johnson.

00:52:21.000 I don't know who that is.

00:52:23.000 I almost went into something about Chuck Johnson, but no, you mean Greg Johnson.

00:52:27.000 Don't know who that is, so no thoughts on Greg Johnson.

00:52:32.000 Cool Apple says Would you agree that more an intellectual looks into politics, the more they understand the need for a relatively authoritarian government?

00:52:41.000 Not necessarily, because you have intellectuals that are libertarians.

00:52:46.000 It's just a matter of what is your opinion of human nature.

00:52:50.000 It's a matter of are you a progressive or are you a traditionalist?

00:52:54.000 A progressive says, and liberals in particular believe, that men are like destined to be free and through freedom they will become better and society will become better and everything can get better.

00:53:08.000 And traditionalists say, more or less, we are subject to destiny, we are subject to fate, subject.

00:53:16.000 Excuse me, to cycles of history subject to human nature, and freedom is not really a determinant in that.

00:53:24.000 I think there's this weird, like liberals and political science people today have a systematic view of history.

00:53:33.000 They have a things become view of history where they see causal relationships as opposed to the more Faustian politician or political thinker who sees history as organic, as natural, as just sort of happening.

00:53:49.000 And whether it's free, whether it's not, it's going to happen no matter what, and things will play out the way they will.

00:53:55.000 And libertarians go against that.

00:53:58.000 So it's really just a matter of your temperament.

00:54:01.000 I think it kind of depends on what kind of person you are, what kind of thinker you are, which way you go down that route.

00:54:07.000 You know, some people, I think intellectuals tend more towards authoritarianism because they recognize things that are true, and they probably are more stubborn in their convictions.

00:54:17.000 And therefore, that lends itself to an authoritarian worldview that things.

00:54:21.000 Should be this way, and people like me should say so, and people like me should enforce it.

00:54:27.000 That's like the fatal conceit, as Bastiat would say, or Hayek would say.

00:54:34.000 Whereas equally smart libertarians would say, well, nobody knows the answer, and therefore nobody can dictate.

00:54:40.000 So I don't know if it's really so much one way or the other, but I get what you mean.

00:54:45.000 Undefined says George Lincoln Rockwell's White Power, Chapter 12, is eye opening.

00:54:50.000 Yeah, and what happened to George Lincoln Rockwell?

00:54:53.000 I mean, like.

00:54:53.000 Come on.

00:54:55.000 I love when people bring up these examples of movements that failed.

00:54:58.000 You know, George Lincoln Rockwell, you know, nobody's reading George Lincoln Rockwell.

00:55:04.000 George Lincoln Rockwell never caught on.

00:55:06.000 Party never caught on.

00:55:08.000 You know, and people say, oh, well, if he lived longer, oh, if he didn't get assassinated.

00:55:12.000 Yeah, well, but he did.

00:55:14.000 And it didn't turn into anything significant at all.

00:55:17.000 And at a time when it could have, at a time when it should have, you know, he was preaching white power at a time when people might have agreed with that as opposed to now.

00:55:27.000 And he didn't get anywhere with it. 0.50

00:55:28.000 No, I mean, nowhere significant, not even close.

00:55:30.000 Didn't even approach meaningful reform or institutional power.

00:55:34.000 And then he got killed by one of his own guys.

00:55:36.000 I mean, that.

00:55:37.000 More than anything, I think his life illustrates the pitfalls of the purity spiral of this movement.

00:55:42.000 So, whenever, you know, I get why people might get around to George Lincoln Rockwell.

00:55:49.000 I never saw the appeal.

00:55:50.000 I always saw it as LARPy and too much.

00:55:54.000 But, yeah, I don't know why we look at movements that failed. 0.68

00:55:57.000 People look at Hitler.

00:55:58.000 People look at Rockwell.

00:55:59.000 People look at even to an extent Mosley.

00:56:01.000 I mean, you can admire the talent of Mosley and want to emulate the emotive style of Mosley, but you have to recognize at the end of the day that the black shirts lost. 0.80

00:56:11.000 Hitler lost. 0.92

00:56:12.000 Rockwell lost.

00:56:13.000 I'm not like we're trying to do the same things, but you see people who claim to be a part of our movement that celebrate these characters.

00:56:21.000 And besides the fact that we don't agree with them ideologically, we're not socialists.

00:56:27.000 They all failed.

00:56:27.000 They failed.

00:56:28.000 So we want to emulate winners, not losers.

00:56:31.000 You know, that should be self evident, but nothing wrong with reading.

00:56:34.000 So I guess check that out.

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Delaying the Electoral Winter | America First Ep. 38

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