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00:22:16.000All right, so we're gonna dive in we're we're jumping and apparently well first of all, let's check in on Call of War Let's do a quick Call of War update And if you could see we have a brand new game I'm the United Kingdom in this one I'm in a coalition right now with Germany and Spain We went to war with France.
00:22:44.000And so now my next move, I'm building up my navy.
00:22:49.000I've got a pretty big fleet, I have a few battleships, destroyers, subs.
00:22:55.000And so my next play is, I think I'm gonna go for Denmark, and then Sweden.
00:22:59.000I'm gonna grab Copenhagen, I'm gonna grab Oslo, and then maybe I go to war with Sweden.
00:23:06.000But the big problem that we're gonna have here is with Canada.
00:23:09.000Canada has taken over all of North America,
00:23:13.000They've defeated the Northern United States, they've defeated the Southern United States, and so they're consolidating today.
00:23:21.000They just took all this over in the last 24 hours.
00:23:26.000So, I anticipate that they will be building military production facilities in all the cities, and they're going to start churning out a navy and air force.
00:23:37.000They're going to invade, and they're either going to land on Spain, me, or Africa.
00:23:44.000And I think just based on proximity, I mean they could do island hopping and go Denmark, rather Greenland, Iceland, and then UK.
00:23:55.000Or, you know, maybe they go Cuba, West Africa.
00:24:02.000They also could go from like Nova Scotia to Ireland.
00:24:08.000So, it's like a 50-50 chance they try and come after me directly.
00:24:11.000So that's why I'm making preparations.
00:24:14.000I just gotta churn out as many ships as I can.
00:24:16.000Not really worry about building anything else because I just gotta have a giant navy.
00:24:22.000If they can't control the sea, they can't land.
00:24:26.000If they can't control the water, they can't get on the shore.
00:24:30.000So I don't really need a big army as long as I control the waterways.
00:24:33.000So, I told Spain, I said, we gotta build up our navy, we gotta go across, we gotta do some damage now.
00:25:23.000You know well I guess we'll just have to spread out in both directions but anyway so that's what's going on in the game and we'll you know we'll just be monitoring this.
00:27:21.000And there was just like this outcry from humanity, a grateful planet, that justice was done here.
00:27:30.000But but I think a lot of people maybe weren't satisfied Because it wasn't that juicy last week.
00:27:38.000He came on stream and he did the biggest cope stream ever He just goes through this big public divorce total like vindication for humanity and then he goes on a debate he goes on the whatever podcast to do a debate with I think Trent horn and
00:27:56.000And he's so nonchalant, like, oh, I'm so not bothered, I don't even care.
00:27:59.000And then he goes on a stream the next day, and he's giving, like, sage relationship advice, and he's so above it all and not bothered.
00:32:44.000And the whole thing comes crumbling down, he's gotta come before a stream, hat in hand, and say, yeah, so, um, my ex-wife is telling everybody I abused her!
00:33:01.000I can't believe you were in an open relationship, in a marriage, and it totally fell apart, and your ex-wife is now dating a guy that she was sleeping with when you were open,
00:33:14.000And she's accusing you of being abusive because you slept with other women in the open.
00:34:08.000We have a call, and she basically tells me that I owe her for money for her apartment.
00:34:14.000And that if I want to do what's moral, because I made her leave the United States and pay to fly all of her shit back, that I should pay her like $100,000.
00:34:26.000And the way that this conversation starts is, and this is the funniest thing, initially she'd like sent this message through a mutual and then I responded back and I was like, oh no, like maybe, you know, maybe Tim can get a job and you guys can, you know, work for this money, you know, good luck.
00:35:36.000And I'm sure this is the end of that conversation.
00:35:39.000I'm sure that's not going to come back up.
00:35:42.000At any point in the future, so... So... Pack it up, folks.
00:35:46.000I think this may be... This may be the end.
00:35:47.000You told me you don't care about the money, you don't care about my help, you don't care about me doing taxes, you don't care about any of that shit.
00:35:52.000All you want is somebody to cuddle with you for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
00:36:49.000this call starts she's like i just want to know where you're at and i'm like what do you mean and she's like well i want to know where you're at because that message you sent two weeks ago and i'm like well i'm at the message that i sent one hour ago and yeah we argue for a bit about this and then it's just like a 40 minute call of and now that i'm like now that i've like grown into like neo when it comes to our relationship now i can see like every single lie and every single like pivot and every single attempt like
00:37:18.000Every single thing, I'm like, well, do you have a log for that?
00:37:22.000Dude, I love, this is so, did I tell you, man, did I tell you this is going to be a delicious feast or what?
00:42:13.000It's like a 40 minute call of and now that I'm like now that I've like grown into like Neo when it comes to our relationship now I can see like every single lie my every single like pivot and every single attempt like
00:42:28.000every single thing I'm like, uh, well, do you have a log for that?
00:42:34.000Because I have a whole bunch of stuff that says the exact opposite.
00:42:37.000And it was just like, I love, I love when I, don't you, don't you just love.
00:42:44.000Don't you just love when you're divorcing your wife, and you catch all her lies, and you ask her for a source, and your wife is like, uh, uh, and you're like, ad hominem, ad hominem, appeal to authority, uh, Motten Bailey fallacy, you stupid fucking bitch.
00:44:53.000One of the things that I complain to the therapist about, I also make these complaints to Melina, but Melina never acknowledges any fault or wrongdoing with anything, which is frustrating.
00:45:02.000But one example of this was like Darius, for instance.
00:45:06.000Melina was 100% unequivocally wrong and exaggerated slash lied about everything having to do with the Darius situation.
00:45:12.000But because it ended up in a place where she didn't like,
00:45:15.000She emotionally rewrote the entire history of their interactions to make it seem like Darius was like a clingy, abusive fucking loser the entire fucking time.
00:45:39.000Let's see, we got some more total Melina death imminent.
00:45:43.000Let's see, Destiny says, When Mel slash Tim go live on their streams and then just start saying everything I said in chat was a lie, I mean, what am I gonna do?
00:46:03.000Without getting into too much detail yet, Mel has reached out to at least five of our mutual friends and told them I am an abuser and that I lied about everything I leaked in chat.
00:46:16.000Dude, Destiny is going to debate Mileena so hard it's going to be insane.
00:46:24.000I love this is like the Gaza war this is like how you know how war now happens on a live stream everybody has a camera so when when the war in Iraq happened we watch it on TV and you know the war in Ukraine is happening you can watch it on your phone you can watch it on 4chan that's like that like we can watch this divorce we can chronicle every moment
00:51:53.000Now, this one's not really women's clothing, so I don't really have a reason to bring this up other than the fact that I want to roast Nico a little bit.
00:52:00.000But you do have to admit that he does look a little bit like a red pill adaptation of a poor B-movie cosplay.
00:52:52.000And he's willing to- even though it's problematic humor, he's willing to laugh at it because he's not a Puritan, he doesn't take himself- Honestly, this guy's like the Dub.
00:53:01.000Walking Dub, W-baby, W-tranny, W-unproblematic, W-willing to laugh at an offensive joke.
00:53:47.000Destiny was paying for this guy to live in the wife's apartment.
00:53:53.000So, Mileena has an apartment that Destiny pays for, and Memetix is having sex with her, dating her, living in that apartment, and then steals the wife.
00:54:03.000They go through this big divorce, and then Memetix rolls up in Destiny's live chat and says this.
00:54:12.000He says, wait till I show him my rent for my own apartment, Teehee.
00:54:16.000It's funny how everyone roasts me for being gay when Destiny is literally LGBTQ.
00:55:28.000This is like one of those videos like of a drive-by shooting in Brazil where they show up and they just light everybody up and then they execute the people that are still alive.
01:00:22.000Destiny underplaying Mel's inability to admit fault.
01:00:26.000The first time I heard Destiny bring this up, he massively underplayed this, and I was pretty shocked when he just made it sound like it wasn't a big deal, when that's probably one of the worst signs you could ever receive.
01:00:37.000Maybe he was in denial about how bad that was, but that seems to be the main character trait.
01:00:41.000So they're just analyzing his marriage, which is kind of cack.
01:02:59.000So it's a little bit annoying that every single person that Melina talks to, and then every single person Tim talks to, and then every single person that these two people talk to are basically being told that I'm like an abuser and a liar and just like all sorts of other like insanely unhinged sh** is a little bit... I'd say a little bit annoying.
01:04:14.000So one of the issues, ha, let me say this right now, okay?
01:04:18.000I need to organize thoughts, figure out what I want to say, what I don't want to say.
01:04:21.000Because I also, I don't want to just like, leak all the details of my relationship.
01:04:24.000If for no other reason, because it's just dumb.
01:04:27.000And it makes everybody look bad, and it's just stupid.
01:04:28.000Like, I don't need to go over all of it.
01:04:34.000But just like a little update, I guess, on where my brain is at.
01:04:41.000Somebody asked, who do the mutual friends believe?
01:04:44.000I think prior to a few weeks ago, I think most of the mutual friends kind of believe Melina, because there's this like, really irritating trend where... And listen, I say this to everybody.
01:04:57.000Alright, I don't really want to watch, this is boring.
01:07:37.000No, because it's all like really gay shit.
01:07:38.000Like every boundary, every new thing that I had is like stuff that's like so embarrassing to enunciate.
01:07:41.000I don't even know if I would ever say it with a new partner.
01:07:43.000Like one of the boundaries that I had set was that like it cannot be that you can never relationship dump or vent every one of our problems onto a mutual friend ever again.
01:07:49.000That was like one of the new boundaries.
01:07:49.000It's like I don't even want to say that.
01:07:54.000I remember, like, three or four weeks ago when I was trying to write out, like, OK, well, if I continue my relationship with Mal, like, what are the boundaries that have to change going forward?
01:07:59.000And I was trying to, like, write these things down.
01:08:00.000There was a friend that I was talking to that I spoke with a lot on this.
01:08:02.000And as we were writing these down, she, like, slapped me, OK?
01:10:16.000This is... I mean, so if you don't know... If you don't know that there's all this distance between the two, then obviously you don't understand anything about the geography of the Middle East.
01:10:29.000And if you don't know anything about the geography, you don't know anything about the politics of the Middle East.
01:10:34.000If you don't know where Israel and Egypt are,
01:10:38.000How can you understand the Israel-Palestine conflict?
01:10:40.000How can you understand the Israel-Arab conflict?
01:10:43.000It's necessary to understand these conflicts that you understand the geography.
01:11:18.000So, I mean, the geography in the Middle East is everything.
01:11:23.000The Persian Gulf, where all the oil comes from, the Strait of Hormuz, where it travels through, the Suez Canal, where it gets to Europe, and where others... I mean, so, all those things define the politics of the region.
01:11:36.000And of course, there's the history as well.
01:11:40.000With the Islamic Caliphates, and in recent history, the Ottoman Empire, and the European colonization, and all the... I'm not just rattling off these things.
01:11:48.000What I'm trying to say is, if you don't know where these places are, you don't know what it looks like, it is impossible to understand what's going on.
01:11:55.000The geography, it's almost deterministic.
01:12:05.000So if you think Egypt borders Russia, you think Israel is in Anatolia, you don't know who the people are, you don't know the languages, you don't know the timelines, he thinks Arabs were in Palestine in the first century?
01:12:26.000But it's like, if you could sit here and watch a guy who clearly knows nothing talk about politics and then watch him watch a 34 year old cuck homosexual talk about what he tells his therapist.
01:12:40.000Like I said, that means your audience is gay people, people with personality disorders, low IQ people.
01:13:01.000My initial worry was that, like, initially I thought that I'd f***ed everything up way too much on all the relationship stuff and it was all my fault and I f***ed it.
01:13:12.000And then as I started to reflect more, I'm like, wait a second.
01:13:13.000I feel like I'm, like, stuck in, like, this insanely toxic, one-sided, stupid, crazy f***ing wild show.
01:13:18.000And then when I started to go through, like, situation after situation after situation after situation after situation after situation with other friends, I'm like, this is f***ing wild.
01:13:23.000And then past that I was like, well, hold on.
01:13:39.000I actually felt that when I said over the past week or two, where I'm like, I feel fine, I wasn't like coping or lying or like trying to mask- I legitimately do feel fine, because I'm like, past this, like the idea that I can like, go out at night, I don't have to worry about like, if I don't text somebody overnight, they're gonna lie and say I boasted them for five days and tell everybody that I'm like, being abusive, I don't have to worry about like, did I tell somebody like, the right information about a person ahead of time, or else they're gonna say it's cheating if I told them like, something different, like, there's just like, it's just like, so simple in terms of navigating my life right now, but I don't have to worry about like, getting in trouble or getting screamed at or having like, 50 million retarded fucking things happen.
01:14:06.000Uh, probably the only way I would consider getting back together is if Lena comes to me with a medical slip showing that she got a lobotomy.
01:16:31.000Dude, I'm so happy that this is happening because now it's like the emperor wears no clothes.
01:16:39.000Now that his second marriage has fallen apart, and now that we have exposed him as an intellectual fraud, what you see is just like a pathetic, stupid, like embarrassing figure.
01:16:54.000He has no idea what he's talking about, about anything.
01:17:07.000His marriage has collapsed, and now he's on stream coping about it, doing this weird self-talk, saying, ah, I gotta learn to set boundaries.
01:17:16.000My therapist told me I can't set boundaries, but I'm in control.
01:18:44.000And, I mean, I just show up every night, and I say, hey, good evening, we got a great show for you, tonight we're talking about blah blah blah.
01:18:55.000So, and that's, I feel like, a characteristic that people maybe overlook about me.
01:19:05.000Is that, I mean, I have a bad temper and I think I'm mercurial, I'm temperamental, but I'm a pretty emotionally stable person.
01:19:15.000I mean, there's been a lot of these people over the years and we see them go on drunken rants and they do drugs and, you know, they have a mental breakdown, they cry on a live stream, this and that, and it's like, you know, this guy goes on stream to bitch and moan and cry about his marriage and talk about his therapy sessions.
01:19:35.000And by the way, this is a guy who really has, I don't want to say he has no problems, but his problems don't approach the problems that I have.
01:21:00.000I think I went live the next day and I was like, hey, we got a great show for you tonight.
01:21:03.000We did AftPack 2 under immense pressure and fire.
01:21:09.000And despite being 10 years younger, I know far more.
01:21:11.000And then you tune into this guy and he's like struggling to find Israel on a map, struggling to identify world leaders that have been around for a decade, struggling to come up with just like basic information like he didn't know that Genghis Khan was a leader of the Mongols.
01:21:30.000And then in between these sessions of crying and doing drugs and carrying on all this other stuff,
01:22:43.000He's like got a mirror, you know, he's like looking in the mirror and he's like... He's like he's looking at himself in the mirror like holding his arm like this.
01:24:53.000I wouldn't say that, but he would say like, you know, quit carrying on, get it together, be a man.
01:24:58.000And that's sort of like, because my parents are a little old school, my parents are ethnic.
01:25:02.000You know, my dad's Mexican and Irish, my mom's Italian.
01:25:06.000And so, ethnics have a little bit of a different culture in America.
01:25:11.000Irish, Italians, Mexicans, even Slavs, like Polish, they have a little bit of a different sensibility, I feel like, than WASPs, than the white Americans that have been here for maybe hundreds of years longer, several more generations.
01:25:25.000They have a little bit more of that old world kind of mentality.
01:29:27.000And he's able to use the money to, again, satisfy all of his compulsions and appetites.
01:29:33.000In theory, that should make him far happier than an average person.
01:29:37.000The average person does not have the notoriety or the resources
01:29:42.000Or the freedom in their life, the flexibility to go and have sex with whomever while being in a marriage, travel, live in a nice condo in a big city and do all... I mean in theory you should be so so so happy and yet none of it's working.
01:30:08.000When you take all that away and you sort of sit him down at night, when the drugs have worn off, when the girls have gone home, or you know, the wife leaves him, or whatever, I mean, you've got this kind of weak, sad, insecure, unimpressive little guy who is rapidly aging.
01:30:29.000Now here's the point I'm trying to get at.
01:30:57.000You get the stability and security of the relationship and what the relationship provides, which is serotonin and belonging and affection and those sorts of things.
01:31:12.000But it comes with the trade-off that you lose your freedom.
01:32:32.000They almost want to be freed from physicality at all.
01:32:35.000And have an endless stream of consumption.
01:32:37.000An endless stream of satisfying appetites.
01:32:43.000And not be tied down in really any conceivable way.
01:32:46.000Ways that a lot of people don't even think of.
01:32:50.000And... This proves that that is misguided.
01:32:58.000You know, the whole liberal conceit is that the more free we'll become, the more that we'll be able to pursue our sort of individualistic, or rather, individualized preferences.
01:33:09.000If we're free from tyranny and constraint, and if we have material abundance, and we have a legal system that protects our rights, and so on, we can pursue whatever thing is going to make us happy.
01:33:23.000But the reason why this conceit is flawed is because we know what makes people happy.
01:33:29.000Everybody thinks that when we lift the restrictions that people are going to find all these creative and new and different and diverse ways of satisfying themselves.
01:34:03.000I think everybody, you know, the reason we have things like common sense, conventional wisdom, is because throughout time and throughout space, and in the human population, people are very similar.
01:34:14.000That's why, that's why we have commonality.
01:35:01.000Because probably if two people just partnered together, it would be a little bit arbitrary.
01:35:05.000If two people just said, hey, I like you, I like you, and on the basis of mutual affinity, you said, well, we have to live together forever until we die.
01:35:16.000If there's no children in the picture, this is arbitrary, and this is sort of a big ask, and it's actually even a little bit strange.
01:35:22.000You get tired of anything after a long time, and familiarity breeds contempt.
01:35:28.000And we find that even the people that are the most similar to us in our family, we often don't get along with.
01:35:34.000And people that are very different from us, we also don't really get along with.
01:35:45.000But when you have a child that sort of revives, and there's this idea of sort of a cycle, you get to take part in it in a different part of the cycle.
01:35:55.000And anyway, the point is, we look at normalcy, we look at a normal life, and we find, yeah, this works for just about everybody.
01:36:31.000It's necessary and it is in our interest and it's for our welfare to have these constraints.
01:36:38.000And that's the beginning of a conservative disposition is to realize that man is restless and man is fickle and the world is cruel and unfair and monotonous and the beginning of a true and a deep satisfaction is a resignation that we don't have control and we're never going to achieve heaven on earth
01:37:02.000And we sort of submit ourselves to the world as it is and to our nature as it is.
01:37:32.000That's the beginning of a conservative disposition.
01:37:36.000And you find that people can thrive within constraints rather than being paralyzed or terrorized by this sort of groundless, unrestrained freedom.
01:37:58.000And I was telling this to Destiny on Fresh and Fit.
01:38:01.000Because I said, you know, look Destiny, the big difference between us is you don't believe in God, you don't care about the transcendent, you are like a hedonist.
01:38:12.000So it's not even that you're left-wing, it's that you have a completely different metaphysics.
01:38:19.000And I said, you know, why do you live?
01:38:51.000One day you're going to wake up and the two people who love you the most in the world, that nobody else can love you like them and nobody knows you like them, they're not going to be alive anymore and you'll never see them again as long as you're on the earth.
01:39:04.000That's a pretty tough thing that people go through in their life.
01:39:08.000And one day, you know, maybe your best friend is gonna die.
01:39:15.000You know, maybe one day you have all these plans for what you're gonna do this weekend, or what you're gonna do next year, and you're gonna see the next big movie.
01:39:24.000And then your stomach hurts and you go to the doctor.
01:39:42.000And when you put everything on the scale, when you put the shadow that is cast by death, and pestilence, and war, and pain, and suffering, and you put that on one side, and then on the other side you put, like, hobbies?
01:39:59.000You put, oh I like knitting and sewing and snowboarding and traveling.
01:40:25.000If what you're after is chasing a state of feeling good, that is going to get harder and harder as your life drags on.
01:40:34.000If what you're chasing is this passing transient state of euphoria or pleasure or whatever it is, you know, the drugs, the sex, etc., novelty, you are going to be left wanting when your bones hurt,
01:40:51.000When your mind starts to go, when your friends and family start to die off, and things that are very profound to people, that are unique to every person, begin to happen, it gets harder and harder to say, well, I'm happy because, you know, I can enjoy a can of Coca-Cola.
01:41:19.000You know, and so the point is to say we, living for comfort over pain or, again, these sort of fleeting emotional states, it's never, it's not enough to justify a life, it's not enough to justify the whole world.
01:41:37.000If you are a materialist, the merciful thing to do would be to end the world.
01:41:42.000The merciful, if you don't believe we have souls, if you don't believe there's a God, if you don't believe there's justice,
01:41:49.000The merciful thing to do is to annihilate all life.
01:41:54.000Because it's just suffering, and it's just death.
01:41:58.000If you're a materialist, then we are brought into this world to have everything taken from us.
01:42:03.000We are given everything to have it all taken away.
01:42:07.000Which some might argue is worse than never having had it in the first place.
01:42:20.000Without God, without justice, without a soul, without an intrinsic meaning.
01:42:28.000And so the merciful thing to do would be amass suicide.
01:42:32.000On the contrary, if you realize that we're here for a reason, and the suffering is supposed to bring us closer to God, and we're supposed to, on some level, reject the world,
01:42:46.000And the suffering has a purpose and it has a meaning.
01:42:51.000And we have a loving creator that we're trying to be reunited with.
01:43:40.000It's not just about rearranging atoms on the planet.
01:43:42.000But when our moral decisions and deeds actually echo in eternity and they actually resonate with a higher power, suddenly then we're living our life in a completely different way.
01:43:55.000And we're not just living to eat, sleep, fuck, etc.
01:43:59.000Suddenly we're living in a completely different way.
01:44:03.000So anyway, so that's why I go so hard on this guy.
01:44:06.000It's not, I'm not just, I don't just see him as an adversary and about just deserts.
01:44:12.000It's about, I've said for a long time, we represent a dichotomy, but not because we're right and left, but because I believe in, but because I care.
01:44:57.000Everybody that goes on these binges of consumption, of indulgence,
01:45:04.000We always see what it looks like when they're at their high, because that's when it's in everybody's face, and that's when it's aspirational, but the crash always comes, and that's, you know, that's what we're looking at right here in some way.
01:45:38.000And you know, the thing is with me, I really struggle because I want to, I'm a live streamer, but I really have the soul of an entrepreneur.
01:46:33.000We'll be doing another big conference and we're getting our non-profit going, trying to build this political movement up.
01:46:40.000Building a new set for the show and really professionalizing.
01:46:43.000Because I want to make a real contribution.
01:46:46.000I don't just want to be a guy that just, you know, talks shit and blah blah blah.
01:46:51.000You know, because I look at this guy at 34 years old and in some sense he's a very successful streamer and he's made a lot, he's made a small fortune.
01:46:58.000On the other hand, where's the real wealth there?
01:48:02.000People are going to look back and say, oh, this douchebag in a t-shirt in a yuppie condo really owned somebody when he pretended to fake laugh?
01:48:13.000You know come on let's ask and that's why I tried to engage this last thing I'll say cuz I'm just sort of ranting and ranting but Last thing I'll say is this
01:48:22.000When me and Destiny were on this friendship arc, I really tried to reach him.
01:48:27.000And I know people on my side are going to say, oh, you're stupid for doing that.
01:48:32.000And people on the left are going to say, oh no, you never wanted to be his friend.
01:48:35.000If you go back and watch our collaborations, I really did try to reach him.
01:48:40.000I tried to talk to him about the things he cared about.
01:48:42.000I tried to tap into things that he cared about that are transcendent, like music.
01:48:50.000Because I pay attention to this stuff.
01:49:09.000Because I look at this guy and it's like he clearly has an aptitude.
01:49:15.000I don't believe anybody's success is an accident.
01:49:17.000I don't look at anybody and say, with some exceptions, and say, oh, you know, that guy got a break, or oh, that guy got lucky.
01:49:24.000I think anybody that's successful, anyone who is successful, feels the exact same way.
01:49:30.000Anyone else who has built something will look at any other person that's built something and say, you know, hats off, they've got some aptitude or some attribute that got them there.
01:49:41.000And I look at this guy and it's like, you know,
01:50:10.000This drug addled, travel, sex lifestyle doesn't work.
01:50:15.000I'm actually rooting for him, even though I don't like him, even though I'm kind of shitting on him the whole stream.
01:50:19.000I really am rooting for him, and, you know, I think the best thing for him would be that he gets straight, you know, reel in the sexual stuff, reel in the drugs.
01:50:32.000There's plenty of girls I'm sure that are interested in him that, you know, he's got to pick one and stay monogamous and get married and have a kid and, you know, transition to a different kind of a life.
01:50:42.000It's time to grow up a little bit and maybe consider what your legacy is going to be.
01:50:47.000Do you want to be a guy that just shits out content or do you want to make something?
01:51:32.000How did it take you three years to realize all of this?
01:51:39.000I think it was just the initial problem.
01:51:40.000I think, I guess if you vibe with this problem, the problem, the reason why I don't like talking about this problem, though, is because somebody in chat said this correctly, and it is true.
01:51:45.000Most of the people that say this are the exact opposite.
01:51:48.000When somebody's like, I give so much to everybody around me, I'm taking care of other people all the time, I wish somebody would just, like, take care of me for once, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:51:53.00090% of the time people say shit like this, they're like, you are the energy vampire in the room, okay?
01:51:55.000Everybody is falling into the black hole of your energy sucking, okay?
01:51:57.000Like, it's really fucking annoying to hear people say that.
01:51:59.000But, yeah, I would say that my issue was, my biggest issue in my prior relationship, and this is 100% my fault, and actually, I did do this a lot in public relationships, so I've gotten better about it,
01:52:07.000Where, if there's an issue, I just assume that it's always my fault, and then if they make a mistake, I assume that it's still my fault because they made a mistake because of something I did, and then I basically, I'll give, like, infinite allowance to my partner to make infinite mistakes, and then I just assume that all of them are my fault because I, yeah.
01:52:17.000To be fair, like, Mel also drilled that into my head a lot, and all of our mutual friends drilled that into my head a lot.
01:52:19.000Stephen, she's traumatized because you did this.
01:52:20.000Stephen, of course she feels this way because four years ago you did this.
01:52:22.000Well, of course she's gonna say that three years ago this happened.
01:52:23.000Well, of course she still feels this way five years ago you did this.
01:53:03.000If there's an exit, if there's a trap door, if there's somebody else waiting in the wings, of course, that's why that marriage can never last.
01:56:05.000So people act differently and they reciprocate and they treat each other differently than if two people are sort of in an adversarial setting and they could always retreat to their other corner.
01:56:20.000And of course, it's magnified when there's other people in the equation.
01:56:24.000Oh, I don't like how this one's treating me?
01:56:26.000Well, I'll just go with somebody else.
01:56:28.000Yeah, I wonder how that would ever go wrong.
01:56:32.000I'll go with somebody else who fits my sexual needs right now, or my emotional needs right now, or my romance, or whatever, my personality needs.
01:56:41.000Maybe it's a certain kind of lifestyle.
01:56:50.000You know, after so many, you know, five, seven years pass, of course, another partner is going to be the exciting, perfect option at that new time.
01:57:00.000If you're in an open relationship, it's never going to work.
01:57:04.000So it's got nothing to do with, you know, he's trying to diagnose and say, well, Melina was mad at me for this reason.
01:57:10.000But, you know, that happens in relationships.
01:57:15.000But if you're committed, then you work through them.
01:57:18.000Your problem is that she lived with another man when you had problems, obviously.
01:57:23.000The problem is that you allowed her and tolerated her living in another country, in an apartment, with another man who was having sex with her.
01:57:32.000So, while you're beefing and having problems, which is typical of a marriage, which is typical of a mature, long-term relationship,
01:57:57.000It's because it was an open relationship.
01:57:59.000He goes, you know, years ago he said, well the reason I'm not afraid of her leaving me is because even though she fucks other guys, I know she'll come back to me at the end of the day because I'm a cool fucking person.
02:03:33.000I'm gonna do them continent by continent, though, because if I do a world map, it's gonna make me look for all the... It's gonna make me look for all the islands, and I don't know all the islands, you know?
02:06:53.000Is that I sort of fell into going on a date with the most guys guy I've ever been on a date with and he's from West West, you know, Santa Monica.
02:07:29.000He went to like another bar and he went he was gonna go to the bathroom So I was getting prepared to pay for our drinks because he's been paying all night Of course, I'm gonna pay for the next round.
02:07:38.000But as he's going to leave for the bathroom He turns to me and he hands me his credit card and he goes here's my card get us whatever It might be time for me to get away from all these, you know liberal snowflakes on the east side Okay
02:07:58.000So what this guy is saying is that she dates a real man, and so that makes her like a feminine woman now.
02:08:08.000You know, she's like obviously a liberal dyke, and so when she goes out with a real guy, this makes her want to be like a feminine woman.
02:08:19.000So let's rewatch and let's analyze here.
02:08:21.000First of all, I want to point out, I feel like all women look like this now.
02:08:27.000I feel like I see this woman everywhere.
02:08:30.000And what I mean by that is mid-20s, looks like shit, makeup caked on, the drawn-on eyebrows like this, the dyed hair, weird hairline, chubby little hands, the fucking short hair.
02:10:28.000Do not pass go, do not collect $200, go straight to jail.
02:10:31.000If you're attracted to a 17-year-old, okay?
02:10:34.000But these days, if you're my age, if you're 25, and you're attracted to an 18-year-old, even though that's the age of consent, women like this will say, Ew!
02:10:46.000Ew, you can't find a girl your own age?
02:10:48.000What are you, and by the way, I'm not, I don't date, I'm not dating, I'm not talking about me, I'm talking in general.
02:10:55.000If a guy my age were to go after a girl who's 18, 19, 20, 21 I would say even is pushing it.
02:11:04.000Women this age would say, ew, there's something wrong with that, that's too much of an age gap.
02:11:25.000And if you see a 19-year-old girl who's young and spring has sprung and she's pretty and she's got long hair and hasn't been turned into a mutant by birth control and not having kids, well, you're a fucking freak pedophile.
02:12:09.000So you're in this kind of like adversarial... I would imagine if you're dating a woman like this... She's already got her own... She's set in her ways.
02:12:23.000She's just developed, so she's pretty, she's skinny, she's young, whatever.
02:12:29.000Two, she's not even really fully mature, so, you know, if a man marries a woman at that age, you really form the woman, and you really, you know, make her your own, I would say.
02:12:40.000Whereas this woman, she's got all her opinions, she's got her ways, and other men have... And by the way, women are totally dependent.
02:13:41.000These days, women have, like, a deep voice.
02:13:43.000They all have this, like, lesbian, like, Lauren Southern voice, where they're, they sound like trannies.
02:13:49.000When, you know, you go back and watch old movies, you go back and watch, like, Wizard of Oz, and they're like, oh, I could've, I never would've posed, you know, they sound like women.
02:13:58.000Now, they all have, like, this, they have, like, this tranny voice, where they sound like, they all sound like skater or tomboy.
02:20:28.000A guy's guy is- And by the way, you know, women have this talent of making it sound like they're telling a really interesting story when it's the most uninteresting story in the world.
02:20:41.000Like the dynamic vocal range and varying the cadence, you know, like she's telling this elaborate story, but really it's the most boring story you've ever heard.
02:20:51.000He's like a guy- I never go on a date with a guy's guy!
02:20:54.000It's like, you are saying fucking nonsense.
02:20:58.000You are saying the most inane, droll, fucking nonsense.
02:22:23.000There's a little alien behind my eyes, in my head, and my face is just a mask, okay?
02:22:30.000I just, this is not... And so when I'm talking to people and they're telling me these stories about, you know... So, I went to the store, and they were out of the milk!
02:22:41.000And I looked down the aisle, and they moved it, and it was $3 a gallon.
02:23:31.000A guy's guy means extremely masculine, extremely macho.
02:23:36.000So when you think of a guy's guy, you think of someone very tall, very fit, very strong, deep voice, very masculine, very macho, no frills, very basic, you know, maybe military, cop, sports, athletic, you know, that sort of thing.
02:23:53.000But pay attention to the fact that she doesn't say anything about this guy's guy, other than that he pays for the shit.
02:24:02.000So, ostensibly the story is about how she went on a date with a guy's guy, and sort of her reaction to this, and how she's relating to that.
02:24:12.000But the only attribute that left an impression on her, what made him a guy's guy, is the fact that he paid for stuff.
02:24:40.000Guy's guy, because he threw his card down.
02:24:46.000The thing about a guy's guy is he's putting his card down.
02:24:52.000Now you're a man or you're a woman, when you think of a guy's guy, just like putting your card down unflinchingly, is that the first thing that comes to mind?
02:25:02.000If I put up a chalkboard and I said, you know, raise your hand, name some attributes, what makes a man a man's man?
02:25:12.000Would anybody say their top 10 throws his card down on a date, pays for a date?
02:25:17.000Even though you might say chivalrous, but that's a little different.
02:25:23.000Athletic you might say, you know competent like real technical skills These would be the kinds of things you might say knows a lot about sports knows a lot about cars You know a rugged outdoors meant simple no frills, etc You wouldn't say like throws the car down.
02:25:41.000So she goes, you know, well the thing about a guy's guy She just throws his car down Now don't get me wrong.
02:25:47.000I'm imagine that a guy's guy would do that I think other guys would do that too, but I don't think that is
02:25:54.000Is like a really an essential characteristic of a guy's guy, but yet in her in her mind She equates these two ideas
02:26:03.000He's paying for everything, and I really just, it sort of activated something feral in me, I'm not gonna lie.
02:26:56.000And he went he was gonna go to the bathroom so I was getting prepared to pay for our drinks because he's been paying all night of course I'm gonna pay for the next round but as he's going to leave for the bathroom he turns to me and he hands me his credit card and he goes here's my card get us whatever and then there's this this fucking act again I hate when women do stuff like this because it's like you're acting you're acting be real don't don't give me this like performance
02:27:26.000I feel like everybody's doing that to some extent.
02:28:25.000is guys are just kind of like their and by the way I'm not saying this out of any resentment because I have never I haven't been on a date since I was in high school or college I guess I went on a couple days in college but that's it I didn't even really know they were dates because I didn't know this girl was into me but anyway that's besides the point
02:32:50.000There's a difference between sort of being flippant and light-hearted.
02:32:55.000You know, because you can imagine a girl goes on a date and they giggle about it and they talk about it, but they're sort of invested in it.
02:33:12.000You know, that the guy's trying, and the girl shows up, and they're sort of in it together, they're doing this mating dance together, and there's this respect for the mating dance.
02:34:38.000Should approach each other with a mutual respect and I think that they should respect the process and they should both be seeking a partner for marriage and the way it is now it's just sort of like this big free-for-all where people connect and disconnect and it's all just sort of transactional.
02:34:59.000But especially for the woman, it's just about, you know, am I going to get treated right tonight?
02:35:25.000But that, I get a, it's like a very dark, and you wouldn't necessarily, maybe that wouldn't be your first reaction, but I get a very kind of dark vibe from this.
02:35:36.000Again, it's this flippancy, like it's all just a big fucking joke, you know?
02:35:42.000And the guy sounds like a chudge, he says, oh he's like a real bro, so he sounds like a real doofus, but, you know, it's the flippancy that they're treating it with, like, oh it's just this stupid,
02:36:53.000Then he said, then he gave me his card and said, buy whatever.
02:36:56.000Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh!
02:37:00.000Not like, oh he was so sweet, we had a good time, he complimented me, he was nice, or he was handsome, or you know, he was a gentleman, or you know, maybe he was rude or something.
02:38:03.000And even like when I'm just talking about Destiny, like even when I talk about Destiny, I'm not, it's like a relationship thing obviously, but even a guy like Destiny, my nemesis slash former best friend, I'm obviously like deeply empathetic because I'm sort of talking about things from his perspective and kind of invested and talking about certain characteristics and things he cares about.
02:38:27.000And so when people talk about each other this way,
02:38:36.000I feel like there's sort of a spectrum, and I'm in a very dreamlike and a very connected side of the spectrum, and this is very opposite of that.
02:38:59.000Nothing to say about how this connection went, but just like, well, he did this thing where he gave me his card and that was like a baller move.
02:39:07.000It's like, is that really all it takes?
02:39:10.000You know, cause I haven't been on a date in years, but I could go on a date right now.
02:39:15.000I could go on a date every week and pull this move.
02:39:18.000You know, I'm old school and I'm a assertive, confident guy.
02:39:22.000If I had a date lined up, you know, today's story, if I had a date lined up tomorrow, I could go out and
02:39:28.000You know, pick the girl up and open the door and throw my card- pay for the dinner!
02:40:12.000They're just kind of like... They're governed by this legalistic, therapeutic sort of thing where it's all about harm reduction and self-care and, you know, bullshit like that.
02:40:27.000And it's they're they're just so invested in like the social performance Rather than like sort of real connection being a part of a real fabric And I don't like it.
02:40:39.000It's not real I want to see this girl like I want to see what she really not to sound gay or whatever But I would love to like throw a bucket of water on her and ruin her day And then see what she's really like you know what I mean
02:41:57.000The point is, you know, when you upset somebody's apple cart, and you get, you know, to get a genuine emotional reaction, then you see the break.
02:42:06.000Then you see the distinction between these fake personas and these performances that everybody's doing all the time now.
02:42:38.000I swear people just don't understand anything And I feel like I kind of want If I'm ever gonna get married, and I hope to get married soon I want it to be like adversarial at first I don't want it to be the pretense of because I feel like if you're like courting a person it's very awkward and clunky and I know there's like a ceremonial like procedural purpose for it and
02:43:06.000But I almost want it to be like Han Solo and- I know it sounds super fucking dorky, but stay with me.
02:43:12.000Han Solo and Princess Leia, where you don't like each other, because then you're honest.
02:43:17.000If someone doesn't like you, they're not afraid of pulling their punches.
02:43:20.000They tell you what they really think of you, and you can tell them what you really think of them, and, you know, it's real.
02:43:28.000And then if you build up an affinity over time, I feel like that- Whenever I see movies, that's my favorite romance story.
02:43:37.000You know, they don't get along, they're total opposites, they're completely unlikely, you know, but over time they keep bumping into each other, they're forced to work together, whatever.
02:43:51.000You know, that's why you gotta kind of torment women a little bit.
02:43:55.000But not in like a playful way, in like a, like I really want you to not like me way.
02:44:00.000Cause a lot of guys do this and they do this really gay flirting thing where they like neg their girlfriend and the girlfriend's like, oh my gosh, stop it.
02:44:10.000And it's like, I don't, I don't want that shit.
02:44:30.000Anything else, it's the power dynamic is all wrong.
02:44:35.000If the man is kind of like putting on this performance and like, you know, tap dancing and shucking and jiving for the woman's approval, doing, you know, flirtatious banter, oh hey, you know, smooth line, oh ha ha, you're funny.
02:44:49.000It's like you're, it's like American Idol in front of the deus, in front of the girl.
02:44:55.000But you really master a woman when you really pick on her and she really doesn't like you.
02:45:02.000And then you, you know, then you really go in and get it.
02:46:14.000Anyway, so Matt Wall says she's impressed that the guy paid, which is fine.
02:46:18.000Women are naturally attracted to providers, but if she likes this aspect of traditional masculinity, she has to accept the rest of it and be willing to play her part and be traditionally feminine.
02:46:29.000That's where things usually break down for feminists.
02:46:34.000Then Megyn Kelly replies and says, actually, no, she doesn't.
02:46:39.000She could find a man who pays and also gets completely hot for a working wife who doesn't cook or behave like any sort of traditional wife.
02:46:49.000And, like, the thing is, women are so retarded and out of touch that they really believe this shit.
02:46:55.000They think that a guy wants to pay for a woman just on account of.
02:47:01.000And they're like, oh, a working woman, how exciting.
02:47:04.000I don't think any man on earth wants that.
02:47:07.000I don't think any man on earth would prefer that over like a homemaker.
02:47:13.000You know, like a truly feminine, like a real woman, you know?
02:52:18.000All right, but let's wrap up this thread here.
02:52:24.000So Matt Walsh says, why should the man play the traditionally masculine role of paying for the meals if the woman won't play the traditionally feminine role in return?
02:52:35.000Megyn Kelly says, it's not about role-playing, it's about who you are and what attracts you.
02:52:39.000The message that in order to get a man who wants to take care of you, you have to be a trad wife is not true.
02:52:45.000Some guys want the fire and excitement of a working wife.
02:52:50.000Trust me, we bring plenty to the table that would be very appealing to many, not all men.
02:52:55.000And lots of those men would still want to take care of us, protect us, and marry us.