America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - Destiny Ukraine Debate Recap | America First Ep. 962

00:00:00.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:00:01.000 You are watching America First.

00:00:03.000 My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.

00:00:05.000 We have a great show for you tonight.

00:00:07.000 Very excited to be back with you here tonight on Monday.

00:00:11.000 We have a lot to talk about tonight, lots to get into.

00:00:15.000 We're going to be doing a big debate recap.

00:00:19.000 As you know, last Friday I debated Steve Bonnell, otherwise known as Destiny, on the Russia Ukraine war, it was an easy victory, which I predicted last Monday.

00:00:32.000 But I hope you all enjoyed.

00:00:33.000 It was a very successful stream.

00:00:35.000 We had 20,000 live viewers across all platforms on Friday, which makes it, I think, one of the biggest streaming events we've ever done on Cozy.

00:00:46.000 We had, I believe, 10,000 watching on Cozy between my channel and Ethan Ralph's channel.

00:00:54.000 I think there was about 8,000 watching on Destiny's YouTube channel and then 1,500 to 2,000 on the Ethan Ralph Odyssey channel.

00:01:04.000 So, Between everything, about 20,000 live viewers at its peak.

00:01:08.000 I think now hundreds of thousands of people have watched it with all the replays that have been posted on my channel, Ethan's channel, and Destiny's channel. 0.85

00:01:17.000 So huge viewership, and I think a decisive victory for the Russians.

00:01:22.000 The response was almost universal.

00:01:24.000 Everybody said, I won the debate, and it was very fun.

00:01:28.000 So we'll do a little debate recap.

00:01:30.000 We'll also be talking tonight about the Russia Ukraine war itself and give you some updates on what's going on there.

00:01:36.000 The war is ongoing.

00:01:39.000 And right now, all eyes are on, and I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right, it's Mariupol.

00:01:45.000 Again, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, but it's a coastal city on the coast of the Sea of Azov.

00:01:53.000 And so everybody's paying attention to this siege, which is going on on that city.

00:01:59.000 The Russians are trying to take it over and connect their forces, which originated in Crimea, and its forces from Donbass, after which they'll move north.

00:02:10.000 Towards the capital or west towards Odessa, which is the other major city on the Black Sea.

00:02:17.000 Specifically, we'll be talking tonight about the negotiations.

00:02:21.000 The Russians and the Ukrainians have relaunched negotiations.

00:02:24.000 They're being mediated by Turkey.

00:02:28.000 And so, Russian President Vladimir Putin has given Ukraine a series of demands.

00:02:34.000 Specifically, they are Russia wants Ukraine to recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea.

00:02:42.000 They want Ukraine to allow Donbass to break away from Ukraine as well as potentially other territory.

00:02:48.000 And they also want Ukraine to change their constitution to declare neutrality and that they will never join NATO.

00:02:54.000 And then lastly, they want Ukraine to denazify and demilitarize.

00:02:59.000 So we'll talk about those demands.

00:03:01.000 We'll also talk about what Zelensky is saying.

00:03:04.000 Zelensky says that he is not going to capitulate to any of those demands.

00:03:08.000 And Zelensky says that if Russia does not surrender, there will be a third world war, there will be a no fly zone.

00:03:15.000 And he's Still says that he wants to join NATO.

00:03:18.000 So we'll get into all of that.

00:03:20.000 Should be a pretty exciting show.

00:03:23.000 I love it.

00:03:24.000 I love the war.

00:03:25.000 I can't stop thinking about it.

00:03:26.000 I posted this on Telegram last night.

00:03:29.000 I just can't stop thinking about it, even over the weekend.

00:03:33.000 And it was a beautiful weekend in Chicago.

00:03:35.000 Great weather.

00:03:37.000 It was like 60s yesterday, 70s today.

00:03:40.000 And I've just been driving around, just enjoying the weather, doing some work, but doing some work on the road.

00:03:47.000 But I just can't stop thinking about it.

00:03:49.000 And everywhere I look, I just see the blue and gold for Ukraine. 0.61

00:03:54.000 And it's just infuriating.

00:03:56.000 And I just wish there was some way I could show support.

00:03:59.000 I just wish there was something I could do.

00:04:01.000 I'm driving around.

00:04:02.000 I'm looking for stores that sell Russian flags, Russians.

00:04:07.000 I need to show my support for Russia.

00:04:10.000 We're working on some merch.

00:04:12.000 I'm going to try and get the merch store back online, and I'd like to sell a hat or a shirt, something before the war is over to just express our solidarity with Moscow.

00:04:24.000 Because everywhere I go, I see ribbons tied around the trees, I see Ukrainian flags in people's windows.

00:04:32.000 I saw something totally ridiculous today.

00:04:35.000 I was driving around my town and I saw on the street corner there's this house and it's all decorated and they've got these little signs in their lawn and it says, Stop the war, stop Putin, and all this stuff. 0.59

00:04:50.000 And I just flipped it off as I drove by.

00:04:53.000 Powerless.

00:04:53.000 I don't know what else to do.

00:04:55.000 I want to put a big Russian flag on my car, but I don't want my car to get vandalized, you know?

00:05:01.000 I will put like a Russian bumper sticker on my car or something, but I don't want someone to vandalize my car.

00:05:06.000 You know, I would tie like a white, blue, and red ribbon around my tree outside my house, but I don't want my house to get vandalized either.

00:05:15.000 It's so hard, you know, it's so difficult these days.

00:05:18.000 We have to show solidarity somehow.

00:05:20.000 I got to do something.

00:05:21.000 I can't stop thinking about it.

00:05:23.000 It's just great to finally see somebody stand up to the American empire.

00:05:30.000 You just love to see it.

00:05:32.000 Well, you want to know what's gratifying?

00:05:35.000 It's particularly gratifying because there's nothing they could do about it.

00:05:39.000 That's what's awesome about it.

00:05:40.000 It has the same energy as Donald Trump because Putin is going in there.

00:05:45.000 He's reaching into Ukraine in a very real and physical way, figuratively, but also literally.

00:05:52.000 You know, Putin is reaching into Ukraine and taking what he wants, and there's nothing that the West can do to stop him.

00:06:00.000 You know, they can sanction him, and, you know, they're doing all this.

00:06:04.000 We'll just take all your, we'll take the billionaires' yachts.

00:06:08.000 Okay, we'll crash your currency.

00:06:11.000 And they can't stop him.

00:06:12.000 They could do nothing.

00:06:15.000 We'll just give $13 billion to Ukraine. 0.74

00:06:18.000 It doesn't matter. 1.00

00:06:19.000 He's going to kill them all. 1.00

00:06:20.000 He's going to kill them all. 1.00

00:06:22.000 The Ukrainian fighters, the foreign legions, it doesn't matter who you send. 1.00

00:06:28.000 The Russian army will kill them all. 0.99

00:06:31.000 Not all the people, but all the fighters. 1.00

00:06:34.000 Russia will destroy them.

00:06:37.000 And I saw over the weekend they used a hypersonic missile to take out an arms depot. 0.95

00:06:43.000 Which is awesome.

00:06:45.000 And there's something about that because, you know, there's a sense of powerlessness that the opponents of the American regime have had to endure for decades, you know, almost a century.

00:06:59.000 And you're beginning to see a real global resistance.

00:07:04.000 It's magnificent, it's very gratifying to witness.

00:07:06.000 You know, it's the same feeling when I saw UX going on Twitch and rating those live streams and they couldn't do anything about it.

00:07:13.000 And they're like, There's this off platform activity.

00:07:18.000 Protect yourselves from the UX love raids.

00:07:21.000 And it's the same feeling I got watching Trump win all the primaries and then win the general. 0.88

00:07:27.000 And it's the same feeling I get watching Putin reach out and take Ukraine and bombing buildings and hypersonic missiles and just absolutely crushing the opposition.

00:07:39.000 And there's nothing anyone can do.

00:07:41.000 You know, Nancy Pelosi, she introduces Zelensky, and Zelensky's talking before Congress and they're all applauding, you know.

00:07:49.000 But you can do nothing, you know, all your strength, and you know, but they can't do anything about it.

00:07:55.000 So you love to see it.

00:07:56.000 We really love to see it.

00:07:59.000 I love to see it.

00:08:00.000 I salute the new Tsar, Vladimir Putin, the pride of Moscow.

00:08:05.000 But anyway, so we'll get into all that.

00:08:08.000 We'll do a little debate recap.

00:08:10.000 Then we'll get into the negotiations.

00:08:14.000 And this is the fun part.

00:08:16.000 Oh, it's all so fun.

00:08:18.000 You know, the buildup was fun.

00:08:21.000 The initial invasion, I was just hooting and hollering when I heard this.

00:08:26.000 You know, I was driving to Florida for a half pack and then I hear this.

00:08:30.000 On YouTube, I'm watching the live stream, and we're like, woohoo, you know, this is yippee, this is great.

00:08:38.000 And it's just been a real pleasure, been a real joy to watch the ongoing conflict and, you know, to hear the increasingly degraded Ukrainian forces.

00:08:48.000 You know, I especially like these videos of the Foreign Legion, you know, because you'll have these American volunteers, all these liberal Americans, they're volunteering to go fight in Ukraine.

00:09:00.000 And you read their posts on Reddit, they're posting videos on Twitter, and they're saying, We're running out of supplies.

00:09:06.000 I thought we'd be taking over towns.

00:09:08.000 We're just getting hit with missiles.

00:09:10.000 There was one guy who said he literally escaped Ukraine.

00:09:13.000 He pretended he was Red Cross to get across the border. 0.93

00:09:17.000 He goes, They're crazy.

00:09:18.000 They told us they'd shoot us in the back if we don't go to the front lines, but we're just getting cut down on the front lines. 1.00

00:09:25.000 And the Russians say, You know, it doesn't matter where you're from, we'll kill you.

00:09:31.000 So the conflict has been a real joy, you know, because these myths about the Ukrainian resistance just getting dashed, you know, on the rocks of reality. 0.54

00:09:42.000 They're saying, oh, you know, the ghost of Kiev and all this.

00:09:46.000 And then they come back from Ukraine and they say, it's over.

00:09:49.000 Ukraine is flattened. 0.75

00:09:51.000 It's all lost.

00:09:53.000 And now the negotiations begin.

00:09:54.000 Now they put the screws in them the siege of Maripol.

00:09:59.000 And they're on their way to Kiev.

00:10:02.000 And then they will relent.

00:10:04.000 And the victory will be decisive.

00:10:06.000 It will be indisputable.

00:10:08.000 And it'll be a real.

00:10:10.000 And Darren Beatty writes a lot about this.

00:10:13.000 And I don't know what the coverage of this on Revolver has been a little confusing.

00:10:18.000 But Darren Beatty wrote about this.

00:10:19.000 He's been writing about this for years, talking about the psychological impact that will be inflicted on the American people when, like, China wins the race to Mars.

00:10:32.000 China takes Taiwan and Russia takes Ukraine.

00:10:35.000 And there's going to be a real psychological impact on the world when Putin dictates the terms of surrender and Ukraine accepts them and he just wins the war.

00:10:46.000 It's not ambiguous.

00:10:48.000 It's not murky.

00:10:49.000 It's not a gray area.

00:10:51.000 He just wins.

00:10:52.000 Putin goes in there and he does what he wants and he just wins.

00:10:56.000 And there was nothing we could do about it. 0.99

00:10:58.000 All the hashtags, all the posts, all the bullshit. 0.99

00:11:03.000 He won. 1.00

00:11:04.000 We lost.

00:11:06.000 There was nothing we could do about it.

00:11:08.000 And then we're going to suffer pain because of the backfire from all our sanctions and everything.

00:11:14.000 We, you know, the oil reserves are running out.

00:11:17.000 The prices are going up.

00:11:19.000 Food prices are going to go up. 0.97

00:11:20.000 Russia has all the fertilizer.

00:11:22.000 They have all the fertilizer and they have all the food.

00:11:25.000 And there's not going to be enough.

00:11:28.000 Prices are going to go up.

00:11:29.000 They're going to win the war.

00:11:30.000 The economic pain will be ours.

00:11:34.000 And, you know, all these Americans, just like in 2016.

00:11:38.000 They're gonna have that same feeling of powerlessness.

00:11:41.000 They're gonna say, you know, we lost.

00:11:45.000 And it's just gonna be delicious for that really to sink in.

00:11:49.000 It's really gonna sink in for them.

00:11:51.000 And we're lucky enough to witness this.

00:11:55.000 We're lucky enough to have a front row seat and watch it all unfold.

00:11:59.000 And, you know, there is a lot more where that came from for the American empire.

00:12:07.000 There are a lot of white pills like this to go around in this century.

00:12:10.000 So, anyway, so we'll get into all of that.

00:12:14.000 Before we do, just want to remind you follow me on Gab, follow me on Telegram.

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00:12:56.000 It's been a tough deal trying to adjust to this new time zone deal.

00:13:02.000 You know, I've been struggling with that, but I think the show's going to sort of regulate.

00:13:06.000 I think we're going to, the show start time will begin to stabilize very soon.

00:13:12.000 It's just that ever since the Senate abolished time as we know it, it's been a little tricky getting used to all of that.

00:13:18.000 But, you know, we're finding other ways.

00:13:20.000 You know, we're finding a rhythm here.

00:13:21.000 So, anyway, I don't think there's any other announcements.

00:13:27.000 Let me think.

00:13:29.000 No, I think that's it.

00:13:31.000 We have some new channels here on Cozy.

00:13:33.000 Milo Yiannopoulos now has a channel here on Cozy, cozy.tv slash Milo.

00:13:38.000 So follow him.

00:13:39.000 He's going to begin live streaming soon.

00:13:41.000 We've also got Cancel Proof, which is a new show with Paul Eskendon and Jason Rink.

00:13:50.000 A couple of friends of mine, they produced those mini documentaries.

00:13:54.000 So if you saw the mini documentary episode about my frozen bank account or the no fly list, they produced those.

00:14:01.000 They're great guys.

00:14:02.000 They're conservative.

00:14:02.000 They're Christian.

00:14:04.000 They're awesome.

00:14:05.000 I did a podcast with them actually, I think last month or it might have been in January.

00:14:12.000 That's actually up on Rumble.

00:14:13.000 But they've got a great show, really well produced, really cool studio, cool lobby, everything.

00:14:19.000 So give them a follow.

00:14:21.000 But I love it.

00:14:22.000 I mean, this platform is just growing every day.

00:14:24.000 I don't know if you noticed, but it's like every week we're adding new streamers.

00:14:29.000 It's unbelievable the rate at which this thing is growing.

00:14:32.000 And it's just awesome to see.

00:14:34.000 It's awesome to see, particularly, because I watch Cozy every day, and I'll be watching Cozy at like 3 a.m., and we'll have 1,000 people across the site watching streams any time of the day, at least 1,000 people.

00:14:50.000 So I'll tune in at 3, 4, 5 a.m. sometimes, you know, on a Monday or on a Sunday, and there'll be 1,000 people watching content, you know?

00:14:59.000 There'll be multiple people live, and there'll be 1,000, 2,000 people watching, even at the weakest hours, you know?

00:15:08.000 And it's just awesome to see that, to see the growth potential.

00:15:11.000 We hit, I think, five or six million page views in the past 30 days.

00:15:16.000 The engagement was crazy after the debate.

00:15:19.000 I think we had like 100,000 page views in 24 hours after the debate on Friday.

00:15:27.000 So the site's blowing up.

00:15:29.000 We're adding new streamers all the time.

00:15:31.000 We're getting great retention.

00:15:32.000 We're bringing over all kinds of audiences.

00:15:34.000 It's just, it's the biggest white pill of the year, I think, is the.

00:15:38.000 People are saying 6 million.

00:15:39.000 I didn't mean to say it is.

00:15:41.000 That's just that that's what it is.

00:15:42.000 Okay.

00:15:43.000 I didn't mean it like a dog whistle.

00:15:44.000 It's just that's what it is.

00:15:45.000 Okay.

00:15:46.000 We're between five and six million page views over the past 30 days, which is incredible because I think AmericaFirst.live was getting like four million per month.

00:15:56.000 And we went from zero on Cozy TV in October to we're approaching six million, which is just unbelievable.

00:16:06.000 Which is, like I said, that's 50% more than what I had on AmericaFirst.live at its peak.

00:16:12.000 So this thing is just exploding in the best way.

00:16:16.000 Really awesome to see.

00:16:17.000 But.

00:16:18.000 Like I said, I don't think there's any other announcements besides that.

00:16:21.000 So we'll just jump right into it.

00:16:23.000 I want to do a little recap of the debate on Friday.

00:16:26.000 I'm sure a lot of you guys watched it.

00:16:29.000 But if you didn't, the replay is on this channel.

00:16:32.000 So if you go to the replays, it's my most recent stream.

00:16:35.000 You could watch the debate with Destiny.

00:16:37.000 You could also watch it.

00:16:39.000 I think it's on YouTube, it's on Destiny's channel on YouTube as well.

00:16:43.000 So it's really all over the place.

00:16:45.000 But I debated him on Friday about the Russia Ukraine conflict.

00:16:50.000 And I told you.

00:16:51.000 The previous Monday, I told you last week that it was going to be a slaughter.

00:16:56.000 And I said it was going to be a slaughter because this is my expertise, okay?

00:17:01.000 You know, I cover a lot of things on this show.

00:17:03.000 Some things I'm not really familiar with.

00:17:06.000 And then, of course, some things I really am very well read on.

00:17:10.000 And I would say that international relations is probably my strongest topic, okay?

00:17:16.000 That's my wheelhouse.

00:17:18.000 I feel like I intuitively understand that better than any other subject.

00:17:22.000 I have more background knowledge on that than any other subject.

00:17:25.000 And particularly this conflict.

00:17:28.000 And I said last week, you know, I remember when I was in high school when the crisis began.

00:17:35.000 You know, I was on the speech team, I was on Model UN, I was a sophomore in high school.

00:17:41.000 When this whole crisis started in 2014, when the Maidan revolution happened and Russia annexed Crimea and started backing the separatists in Donbass.

00:17:52.000 So I've been following this for fully eight years, you know, and I've been following it ever since.

00:17:58.000 This particular conflict.

00:18:00.000 And I know it on both sides.

00:18:02.000 Because, you know, eight years ago, I was on the side of the neocons.

00:18:05.000 You know, and I was just telling a friend of mine the other day, I was a hardcore neocon.

00:18:10.000 When I was in high school, I read Brett Stevens, who at the time was at the Wall Street Journal.

00:18:16.000 He wrote a book called America in Retreat.

00:18:19.000 And he talked actually about exactly this scenario in that book.

00:18:24.000 Brett Stevens, he's now a columnist for the New York Times, he started out at the Jerusalem Post. 0.95

00:18:29.000 You know, spoiler alert, he's a Jewish Zionist. 0.97

00:18:33.000 So he starts out at Jerusalem Post. 0.76

00:18:35.000 He was at Wall Street Journal when I was in high school.

00:18:37.000 He wrote this book called America in Retreat.

00:18:40.000 And it was basically about how the Obama doctrine of abdicating American global hegemony would lead to this global crisis.

00:18:49.000 And it would see Iran invading its neighbors at the same time that China is invading Taiwan, at the same time that Russia invades Ukraine from Belarus and from Crimea.

00:19:03.000 And I remember reading that and thinking, oh my gosh, we need American leadership in the world.

00:19:08.000 And I watched or listened to the Max Boot podcast. 0.79

00:19:11.000 Max Boot, he's another Jewish Zionist neocon. 0.95

00:19:14.000 I remember I read Garry Kasparov's book. 0.98

00:19:17.000 Garry Kasparov was a chess grandmaster from Russia.

00:19:21.000 And now he's a polemicist and a political pundit and he writes books.

00:19:26.000 And he wrote a book eight years ago called Winter is Coming.

00:19:30.000 And it was about how Putin's a dictator and.

00:19:34.000 And he's going to turn Russia into this totalitarian state.

00:19:37.000 And I actually saw him speak live at the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations. 0.58

00:19:42.000 I saw him speak.

00:19:43.000 I got him to sign the book, I read it.

00:19:46.000 So, you know, you guys probably aren't interested in this, but so I was all in on this issue. 0.63

00:19:51.000 But on the other side, I was on the neocon side.

00:19:55.000 And I would go to Speech Team and I would go to Model UN and I would make the case.

00:20:00.000 Everything that Destiny said, I would make those arguments.

00:20:03.000 And I would say, you know, Obama needs to do more to support Ukraine.

00:20:08.000 He's sending them non lethal aid, hamburgers and blankets.

00:20:12.000 They need guns, they need fighter jets, you know, they need all this. 0.96

00:20:16.000 And I said, you know, we need to create a tripwire in Ukraine because if Putin invades, that's going to signal to the rest of the world and the rogue states that, you know, America doesn't defend democracy and all this crap. 0.90

00:20:30.000 I was eight years ago, you know? 0.71

00:20:32.000 But so I know this issue inside and out.

00:20:34.000 I know that side.

00:20:36.000 I know my side.

00:20:38.000 I know every angle.

00:20:40.000 And so I said last week it was going to be a slaughter because I just know my stuff here.

00:20:44.000 And Destiny just doesn't.

00:20:46.000 You know, I was watching his streams.

00:20:48.000 I'm not going to do the whole.

00:20:50.000 I mean, I basically said all of this last week, but I'll just reiterate.

00:20:54.000 You know, I watched his streams leading up to the debate, and he just does not have any command over the history.

00:20:59.000 You know, I'm friendly with him.

00:21:01.000 We had a friendly debate.

00:21:02.000 We had a friendly discussion actually last night.

00:21:06.000 But he just doesn't have the breadth of knowledge here.

00:21:10.000 You know, he doesn't know the players.

00:21:11.000 He doesn't know the theory.

00:21:13.000 He doesn't know the history here.

00:21:15.000 He just doesn't get it.

00:21:16.000 Like, he doesn't know the Cuban Missile Crisis, okay?

00:21:19.000 He doesn't know the Monroe Doctrine.

00:21:20.000 He doesn't know.

00:21:21.000 He just doesn't know, and you don't know what you don't know.

00:21:25.000 So, we do the debate on Friday, and it went exactly as I expected.

00:21:31.000 It's funny, he does his opening statement, and he doesn't even really make an argument.

00:21:36.000 And if you go back and watch a debate, he does his.

00:21:38.000 And, you know, I may at some point, I think I may actually tomorrow or at some point this week, I may go back and watch a debate and do a commentary stream on the debate itself and go over everything because I really want to go over it precisely and in a very surgical way.

00:21:55.000 Because when you're in a debate, you kind of miss certain things and you have to be strategic and stuff.

00:22:01.000 But he does this opening statement and he really doesn't even put forward an argument.

00:22:05.000 The topic is it's about Russia's incursion into Ukraine.

00:22:10.000 Is it justified?

00:22:11.000 You know, what's the story here?

00:22:12.000 Why is it happening?

00:22:13.000 Whose fault is it?

00:22:15.000 You know.

00:22:17.000 And in his opening statement, he doesn't even really make a positive claim, he doesn't even make a positive proposition.

00:22:24.000 He just says, you know, Nick might tell you this.

00:22:28.000 He might say this.

00:22:29.000 And he almost tries to preempt a lot of the pro Russian arguments, like that Russia is trying to denazify Ukraine, or that Russia is this bulwark of Western values, or, you know, a lot of different arguments.

00:22:47.000 He tries to preempt like every argument, takes a sort of superficial survey of every pro Russian argument that maybe he's seen on the internet.

00:22:57.000 And it was funny because I'm listening to the opening statement.

00:23:00.000 I'm thinking, like, that's not covering anything that I prepared.

00:23:04.000 I mean, nothing in his opening statement even addresses my core argument, which is about NATO enlargement, about theater support missiles, about all this kind of stuff.

00:23:15.000 And so he does his whole opening statement.

00:23:17.000 And then at the very end, he says, you know, the issue is that Russia has invaded Ukraine and violated their sovereignty.

00:23:27.000 And, you know, Ukraine wants to join NATO.

00:23:32.000 So, you know, 95% of his opening statement is trying to preempt arguments that I wasn't even going to make.

00:23:39.000 And then the final 5 or 10%, the core of his argument, there's two parts to it.

00:23:46.000 It's something like this Russia violated Ukraine's sovereignty, and nothing can justify that.

00:23:56.000 That's one part of it.

00:23:57.000 And then the other part is, you know, if you're going to argue that NATO expansion is a threat to Russia, well, The reason that that's not the case is because Ukraine chose NATO expansion, and if Ukraine was in Russia's sphere of influence, well, that's not consensual.

00:24:18.000 So to put those two together would be something like this it would be like, well, you know, you have to consider the plight of the Ukrainians.

00:24:26.000 They want NATO membership, and you can't put Russia's security interest ahead of Ukraine's security interest, and Ukraine's security interest is they want NATO membership.

00:24:35.000 So I guess it's actually a three parter. 0.57

00:24:37.000 And then it says on top of that, You know, therefore, nothing justifies the Russian invasion. 0.71

00:24:42.000 So there's kind of like three, I guess there's really three pieces.

00:24:45.000 It's something like this.

00:24:47.000 You know, even though you may argue that NATO expansion could threaten Russia, you can't prioritize Russia's security over Ukraine's security.

00:24:55.000 Ukraine chose NATO over Russia.

00:24:58.000 And lastly, nothing justifies the Russian invasion.

00:25:01.000 And so that's really the thesis, but he doesn't really back this up.

00:25:05.000 He also says, and this is also kind of ancillary, he says the real thing that Russia desires is revanchism.

00:25:12.000 And what revanchism means is a desire to restore a country's lost lands or territory or people or something like that.

00:25:22.000 So, you know, and this is sort of the background of that three part argument is, well, Russia's not really concerned about security.

00:25:31.000 The things that Russia says it's concerned about are not its real concerns.

00:25:36.000 What's really going on here is that Putin is a dictator and he is power hungry and he's hungry for territory and he's trying to rebuild a dead empire.

00:25:44.000 So that's sort of the.

00:25:46.000 That's really the background of the whole argument.

00:25:50.000 But it's not supported throughout the entire debate.

00:25:52.000 None of this is really supported.

00:25:55.000 And so that's a destiny argument.

00:25:56.000 My argument on Friday is something like this We have a crisis.

00:26:02.000 This is not desirable for anybody.

00:26:04.000 The crisis that is ongoing is not desirable for the United States. 0.90

00:26:09.000 It's not desirable for Ukraine.

00:26:10.000 And it's not desirable for Russia. 0.88

00:26:12.000 How did we get here?

00:26:14.000 You know, nobody can argue about what ought to be or what should be or what is right and what is wrong.

00:26:20.000 But what is real is that people are dying and buildings are being destroyed and there's a war going on and we are on the brink of a great power nuclear conflict, which has never happened before.

00:26:31.000 We've been on the brink before, but it's never actually happened.

00:26:34.000 But it seems like we're closer now, maybe, than ever.

00:26:38.000 So whose fault is it?

00:26:39.000 How did we get here?

00:26:41.000 And what is our responsibility?

00:26:43.000 What is the responsibility of the United States?

00:26:45.000 And I make the case that there is a pattern of behavior over 30 years since the end of the Cold War where the United States has.

00:26:54.000 Expanded its power and expanded its dominion at the expense of the security interests of other nations, in particular Russia.

00:27:01.000 That the United States is not a benign hegemon.

00:27:05.000 It is a global hegemon with lots of power, more power than any other country in the world by far, and maybe more power than every country in the world put together.

00:27:16.000 And if we want to have a stable world order, we have to have balance.

00:27:21.000 And in order to have balance, we have to allow other great powers and other countries to exert a reasonable sphere of influence and pursue a reasonable security policy.

00:27:32.000 I said, and part of that would be we have to stop expanding NATO.

00:27:37.000 Putin's demands are not unreasonable. 0.91

00:27:39.000 We should have acceded to them.

00:27:41.000 We didn't.

00:27:42.000 Now there's a crisis, but there's still time to neutralize the situation.

00:27:46.000 And that was really my counter argument, which I supported, I think, at length with historical examples and numbers and.

00:27:56.000 I go into the Destiny community.

00:27:56.000 You know, it's funny.

00:27:58.000 I go onto their subreddit.

00:27:59.000 I go onto Destiny's upload on YouTube.

00:28:02.000 And everybody in the comment section is saying, you know, oh, Nick was looping.

00:28:06.000 Nick was saying the same things over and over.

00:28:09.000 And it's true.

00:28:11.000 But all the Destiny sub community, they all remembered what I said.

00:28:14.000 I mean, that's really the point.

00:28:17.000 I'm not, this isn't a debate team.

00:28:19.000 This isn't a technical debate where everybody hears every argument and everybody is doing a technical analysis of every argument and every warrant and every claim.

00:28:29.000 I kept repeating, look, NATO spends $1.2 trillion, Russia spends $65 billion.

00:28:37.000 Now, the Destiny sub community kept hitting me for this.

00:28:39.000 They're saying, oh, he kept looping that.

00:28:41.000 He kept saying that over and over.

00:28:42.000 He kept saying, you know, NATO spends all this and Russia only spends this.

00:28:46.000 He kept saying that NATO is a counter Russian alliance.

00:28:50.000 And I wanted to impress those two points because when you consider those two facts in particular, it really changes your whole understanding of the conflict.

00:29:00.000 Because, how could you contend that Russia is this aggressive empire?

00:29:07.000 You know, they're the belligerent, they're the problem, when they are so small and so powerless compared to the entire NATO alliance.

00:29:16.000 I mean, how could any serious person portray Russia as this?

00:29:21.000 Because, look at the media coverage.

00:29:23.000 To your average simpleton, your average normie who knows nothing, they think this is the new Soviet Union.

00:29:30.000 They think that Putin is Joseph Stalin.

00:29:32.000 They think that.

00:29:33.000 He's the arch villain.

00:29:34.000 He's the big bad guy.

00:29:36.000 He's the big evil super villain that's invading its neighbors and trying to end the world because they're greedy and so on.

00:29:43.000 And impressing those two facts destroys that narrative.

00:29:47.000 The big bad guy, you know, the big evil warlord, yeah, his military is a fraction of a fraction of the size of the NATO alliances.

00:29:55.000 Why does that matter?

00:29:57.000 The NATO alliance was built to counter Russia.

00:30:00.000 So, how can you argue that it's Russian aggression?

00:30:04.000 When the counter Russian alliance is more than 10 times bigger and expanding to 13 countries in a span of 20 years.

00:30:12.000 You know, who's the aggressor here?

00:30:14.000 Who's the belligerent?

00:30:15.000 Who's the threat?

00:30:16.000 Who is the revanchist? 0.74

00:30:20.000 It's not Russia. 0.55

00:30:22.000 Anyway, so I, you know, I impressed those two facts in particular, but I also talked a lot about missiles.

00:30:29.000 And this is something that I hadn't really talked about on the show last week, but this is another important thing.

00:30:35.000 Missile systems are a huge part, you know, maybe the central part of military doctrine in the nuclear age, specifically in the ICBM age, because it's really, I guess you could separate it.

00:30:50.000 You have the introduction of the A bomb in World War II, and then you have the H bomb in the 1950s, and then you have the development of intercontinental ballistic missiles, which means you've got these missiles that are extremely long range with a miniaturized warhead, and they could be launched from the sea, the air, or from land.

00:31:10.000 And they could hit a country on another continent and inflict devastating damage.

00:31:15.000 So now the military doctrine and the balance of power is not so much about tanks, obviously, and guns and planes and bullets and conventional means.

00:31:25.000 It's about missiles.

00:31:27.000 And the point that I made, and this is really crucial to understanding how America is provoking Russia, how they're undermining Russia's security.

00:31:36.000 Look at the big picture, look at the pattern of behavior over 20 years.

00:31:40.000 And I made the case that in 2001, the United States pulls out of the anti ballistic missile treaty.

00:31:48.000 So in 1973, I believe, Richard Nixon and Leonid Brezhnev formed the ABM Treaty and they put a moratorium on the development of anti ballistic missile systems.

00:32:03.000 What is an anti ballistic missile system?

00:32:07.000 The United States and the Soviet Union at the time, you know, they had amassed these giant stockpiles of nuclear warheads and ICBMs and they were engaged in an arms race.

00:32:18.000 You know, there's really, there's actually a lot to unpack here.

00:32:21.000 It's a really complicated subject, and I actually regret this a little bit.

00:32:24.000 I maybe should have laid this out more in the debate or maybe before the debate.

00:32:31.000 It was almost tough to have a real conversation because you could tell that the audience and Destiny don't actually understand the theory behind nuclear doctrine and, you know, balance of power in the nuclear age.

00:32:45.000 Because there's a lot to it that isn't, Very intuitive and maybe isn't obvious at first glance.

00:32:52.000 You know, because people would say something like, well, why would the United States have a thousand nuclear warheads?

00:32:59.000 That's more than enough to destroy the entire world.

00:33:02.000 So, why would you need like three or four times as many missiles as would be required to end the world?

00:33:09.000 And that's because, you know, the missiles aren't always accurate and maybe some of them fail.

00:33:13.000 And of course, you know, the idea is that if the Soviet Union triggered a first strike against the United States, Where would the Soviet Union launch their missiles at?

00:33:25.000 Well, the Soviet Union would launch their missiles at our missiles so that we couldn't use our missiles to retaliate.

00:33:32.000 So, the United States, in order to hedge, you know, and this is a concept in international relations that is sort of central, it's called the security dilemma. 0.70

00:33:43.000 Insofar as the Soviet Union has nuclear weapons, they have the capability to strike America first, they have the capability to hit America with nuclear bombs. 0.58

00:33:54.000 How do you hedge against that? 0.68

00:33:55.000 You know, if that is the case, if that security posture exists, we're vulnerable.

00:34:01.000 How do you protect against that? 0.65

00:34:03.000 Well, the United States has to develop enough nuclear missiles that if the Soviet Union hits our nuclear missiles, we'll have enough that we can hit them back and retaliate. 0.57

00:34:13.000 And so, nuclear retaliation is kind of at the heart of defending against nuclear weapons. 0.82

00:34:21.000 Insofar as two countries have nuclear weapons, each country knows that the other can launch nuclear weapons at the other. 0.64

00:34:29.000 You know, if the Soviet Union has nuclear weapons, they can drop nuclear bombs on our population and destroy our country. 0.71

00:34:36.000 That's an unacceptable security posture. 0.70

00:34:39.000 So we have to have nukes.

00:34:41.000 Well, if we both have nukes, then we both know that we could hit each other with nukes.

00:34:46.000 And if we both have nukes, where would we drop those nukes?

00:34:48.000 We drop them on the other country's nukes so that they couldn't hit us.

00:34:55.000 So both countries are developing lots of nukes so that if the other side hits the other, well, then they'll always have more.

00:35:01.000 Then you get the nuclear triad where they have various means of launching them. 0.72

00:35:05.000 They've got nuclear submarines, nuclear warheads that could be dropped from planes, nuclear tipped missiles, so that in the event that, let's say, the Soviet Union destroys all our airfields and all our missile silos, we could still launch them from our submarines, which are always moving and the locations are unknowable, right? 0.72

00:35:23.000 And vice versa. 0.57

00:35:26.000 So that's a very important concept in understanding how do you have a stable world order?

00:35:31.000 How do you have peace in the nuclear age?

00:35:34.000 How is it that many countries can have peace?

00:35:36.000 Large nuclear arsenals without war breaking out?

00:35:39.000 Because understand, the very existence of nuclear weapons creates instability.

00:35:45.000 The very fact that any country has a nuclear bomb, that any country has a nuclear capability, threatens all the other countries and creates an unacceptable security risk.

00:35:58.000 So it's actually a very tenuous and a very delicate thing that we even have peace, that we even have confidence between the nuclear powers.

00:36:08.000 And that confidence and that peace, it's built on this understanding, it's built on this psychological concept, this theory of mutually assured destruction.

00:36:20.000 And mutually assured destruction, what that means is that every nuclear power has to be confident that the world would end if nuclear weapons are used.

00:36:30.000 That if we launch them against another nuclear power, they would retaliate and it would be a losing prospect. 0.62

00:36:37.000 For any country to initiate the use of nuclear weapons, that's how you have peace.

00:36:43.000 Because otherwise, countries could not accept.

00:36:46.000 And that's another thing in international relations the idea, you know, Destiny kept repeating, he kept saying, well, NATO's a defensive alliance.

00:36:53.000 They've never invaded Russia and they never probably will. 0.94

00:36:57.000 And that is maybe true.

00:36:59.000 You know, you may believe that NATO, it is unlikely that they will invade Russia, but that's all that you could really say.

00:37:07.000 And that's kind of another concept is that.

00:37:09.000 You know, and I said this on the show today and I said this on Friday the existence of an offensive capability in itself presents a theoretical threat.

00:37:21.000 That the United States possesses the nuclear weapons, that NATO possesses a $1.3 trillion per year military, the capability that they have that kind of firepower presents a threat.

00:37:35.000 Why?

00:37:37.000 Because all it would take is a Discretionary choice by the leadership in DC for them to win a war against Russia.

00:37:47.000 And so understand if you're Russia, if you're any country for that matter, the existence of an offensive capability in another country without an equal or, you know, without defensive parity, that presents a risk to the security of your country.

00:38:06.000 The only thing that's stopping NATO from invading Russia.

00:38:11.000 If we say that, well, NATO will probably not invade them, is this very sort of flimsy, like, you know, this very flimsy assumption.

00:38:20.000 And I said this in the debate it's not sufficient, it's not adequate to say NATO probably won't invade Russia today.

00:38:28.000 Because, of course, NATO could invade Russia tomorrow or the next day or 10 years from now.

00:38:34.000 And that's the thing, they always can.

00:38:38.000 It's the capability to do that that creates a security risk.

00:38:41.000 So, what countries have to do is create a balance.

00:38:45.000 So, if NATO has certain offensive capability, Russia needs some way to match that.

00:38:51.000 So, how do they match it?

00:38:53.000 Well, weaker countries can develop a nuclear arsenal, right?

00:38:58.000 If we're talking about conventional capabilities, non nuclear capabilities, countries can develop cheaper defensive capabilities that can match the more expensive offensive capabilities of the other country.

00:39:12.000 And this is where we get into missiles.

00:39:15.000 So, as an example, in 1973, and we'll get into the ABM thing, and I guess we'll sort of circle back to this concept.

00:39:22.000 So, in 1973, back to the ABM thing, Richard Nixon and Leonid Brezhnev, the General Secretary of the Soviet Union, They sign a treaty on anti ballistic missile systems.

00:39:33.000 And what's happening in the 60s and 70s is that the Soviet Union and America are building up their stockpiles of warheads and of missiles in an arms race.

00:39:43.000 And that's why I explained the concept of mutually assured destruction and the sort of nuclear thinking.

00:39:50.000 There's an arms race.

00:39:51.000 They're building up because both sides are distrustful of one another and they need to know, again, that they can retaliate.

00:39:59.000 Well, in the 60s and 70s, both countries start to look into.

00:40:03.000 Anti ballistic missiles, which are missiles that shoot down missiles.

00:40:07.000 And they're looking into the capability to create basically an umbrella of protection where, you know, hypothetically the Soviet Union launches an ICBM at the United States and then an anti ballistic missile system will shoot down those ballistic missiles.

00:40:25.000 And then the United States can launch missiles at the Soviet Union and retaliate.

00:40:30.000 Or theoretically, you know, if the United States builds an ABM shield around itself, it can launch.

00:40:36.000 Strikes at Russia without Russia being able to retaliate.

00:40:41.000 And understand the ABM shield, it's counterintuitive.

00:40:43.000 Most people would think, oh, you know, there's technology where we could shoot nuclear missiles out of the sky.

00:40:49.000 Wouldn't we want to pursue something like that?

00:40:51.000 Wouldn't we want to protect ourselves from nuclear weapons?

00:40:54.000 The answer, counterintuitively, is no.

00:40:57.000 We do not want to protect ourselves from nuclear weapons.

00:41:00.000 And that has a lot to do with the balance and the concept of mutually assured destruction.

00:41:07.000 Because if the United States is protected from ICBMs, if it's protected from a first strike or a retaliatory strike, then there is no deterrent from the United States initiating the use of nuclear weapons. 0.52

00:41:22.000 It actually makes the world less safe.

00:41:25.000 Because if the United States develops an ABM shield, and if the Soviet Union develops an ABM shield, and if China develops an ABM shield, well, then there's really, you know, now nuclear weapons are sort of back on the table.

00:41:38.000 Because then, if we say hypothetically, hmm, you know, let's say in a theoretical scenario, the United States says, you know, well, hostilities between us and the Soviet Union have reached a boiling point.

00:41:52.000 We think that we could destroy their ABM shield, we could destroy their anti ballistic missile system, and then the Soviet Union will be vulnerable to a nuclear attack. 0.74

00:42:04.000 We can nuke the Soviet Union, we can nuke their ABM sites, we can nuke. 0.89

00:42:08.000 Their nuclear weapons, we can nuke their population centers and their industry, and even if they have nuclear submarines that could launch nukes at us, our ABM shield will knock all of that out of the sky. 0.96

00:42:20.000 Now, nuclear weapons are back on the table as a sort of functional tool of war. 0.73

00:42:29.000 It's not something any longer that we could say confidently would result in our own destruction, like we could if we didn't have an ABM shield.

00:42:38.000 So, the military doctrine of the United States, ever since that.

00:42:42.000 Treaty passed was not to protect ourselves, was to say we will not develop a capability to shoot down nuclear weapons.

00:42:51.000 What underlies U.S. security is the retaliatory capability.

00:42:56.000 We're not going to shoot nukes out of the sky, but if you nuke us, we will destroy your country.

00:43:02.000 And if every country has that policy, then nobody will be using nuclear weapons.

00:43:06.000 That's the bedrock.

00:43:08.000 Since 1973, that is the bedrock of world peace.

00:43:13.000 That is why great powers do not go to war.

00:43:15.000 That is why great powers do not use nuclear weapons against each other.

00:43:19.000 It is because of retaliation, it is because of mutually assured destruction.

00:43:24.000 It is built on the 1973 ABM Treaty that says countries will not develop.

00:43:30.000 An anti ballistic missile system.

00:43:33.000 So, in 1991, the Soviet Union dissolves and it is weakened dramatically.

00:43:39.000 Its conventional military capability is destroyed, its economy is destroyed, the territory shrinks, the population shrinks, it's a disaster.

00:43:47.000 In 2001, Russia is still a very weak country, and all the Soviet satellites are amputated from Russia.

00:43:56.000 And in 2001, the United States pulls out of the ABM Treaty and the United States begins to research and develop.

00:44:04.000 An anti ballistic missile system.

00:44:07.000 And I said, this is part of a pattern of behavior here.

00:44:10.000 This is a very provocative thing to do.

00:44:12.000 This is an incredibly destabilizing thing to do.

00:44:16.000 And who initiated it?

00:44:17.000 The United States.

00:44:19.000 And Destiny countered and he said, well, you know, the United States pulled out of that treaty because China was not a signatory on the treaty.

00:44:28.000 And China is developing an ABM.

00:44:31.000 And China's a nuclear power.

00:44:33.000 He said, also, North Korea has a nuclear arsenal and Iran is developing a nuclear arsenal.

00:44:38.000 And at the time, we thought Iraq was developing a nuclear arsenal.

00:44:42.000 So the argument goes from the foreign policy establishment in Washington that, you know, Russia shouldn't be too concerned about this because, well, we're only building an ABM system to counter Iranian missiles.

00:44:55.000 And we're only pulling out of the treaty because it's insufficient because China hasn't signed on to it.

00:45:01.000 So therefore, China could develop an ABM shield. 0.92

00:45:04.000 So we're investing into an ABM shield to counter Iran and maybe China. 0.84

00:45:11.000 The problem with that logic, though, and this is what I said in the debate, is that the ABM system that's being deployed to Europe does not discriminate against Iranian or Russian missiles.

00:45:22.000 It shoots down missiles.

00:45:24.000 So you're building an ABM system in Alaska, you're building an ABM system in Eastern Europe, you've got an ABM system in the Arctic Ocean, and you're building an ABM circle around Russia. 0.78

00:45:39.000 And you could say, well, it's for Iran, it doesn't matter what you say it's for.

00:45:44.000 The systems aren't programmed to only shoot down Iranian missiles.

00:45:49.000 They can't recognize missiles.

00:45:52.000 They just shoot down missiles.

00:45:54.000 So, once again, the capability would theoretically then exist for them to shoot down Russian missiles.

00:46:00.000 And again, now the nuclear doctrine has fundamentally changed.

00:46:06.000 And it's no longer based on retaliation and mutually assured destruction, now it's based on this umbrella of protection concept.

00:46:15.000 And again, they could say it's for one thing, they could say it's for another thing, it doesn't matter.

00:46:20.000 And it does destabilize the ABM treaty peace and the confidence that other nuclear powers have that other nuclear powers will not initiate a first strike.

00:46:33.000 I mean, that's really the foundations of the thinking on nuclear strategy the ability to initiate a first strike and survive.

00:46:43.000 Theoretically, if the United States is successful and develops an ABM shield and they deploy it around Russia, they could say it's for Iran, they would have the capability to strike Russia and Russia would not be able to retaliate, theoretically.

00:46:56.000 And that's unacceptable.

00:46:58.000 Because, of course, now Russia, they go from, you know, before 2001, they know that if America hits them, Russia could hit them back and it's game over for everybody. 0.67

00:47:10.000 So, America, we can have confidence based on what we know about people.

00:47:15.000 America would not destroy itself.

00:47:17.000 So, they will probably not destroy Russia.

00:47:20.000 And Russia could then have confidence that there will be no first strike.

00:47:25.000 Not just trust, not just an assumption, you know, America probably won't, not likelihood, not probability, not trust, not words.

00:47:34.000 They can have confidence, they can be assured that America won't strike Russia because America will then be destroyed. 0.57

00:47:42.000 If after the ABM treaty is toast, America would not be destroyed if they initiated a first strike.

00:47:50.000 There's no longer that assurance.

00:47:52.000 There's no longer confidence.

00:47:54.000 And now Russia is thinking about we're going to be destroyed.

00:47:57.000 So, what does Russia do?

00:47:59.000 America pulls out of the ABM treaty.

00:48:01.000 This destabilizes and upsets the entire nuclear order.

00:48:06.000 And so the next day, Putin goes out and says, We will be forced to develop hypersonic capabilities.

00:48:13.000 So, Russia then begins to develop a hypersonic missile system.

00:48:17.000 What's the significance of hypersonic?

00:48:19.000 You know, maybe you've read about this or heard about this.

00:48:21.000 The idea behind a hypersonic missile, hypersonic meaning faster than the speed of sound, is that these missiles are unstoppable.

00:48:31.000 So if America is going to develop a system that shoots down missiles, Russia says, okay, we'll develop a missile that is so fast you can't stop it.

00:48:43.000 And what has been initiated thus is an arms race. 0.51

00:48:46.000 Now America is racing to develop an ABM shield, and now Russia is racing to develop these offensive capabilities that can pierce.

00:48:56.000 The ABM shield.

00:48:57.000 So now Russia is investing in hypersonic missiles, hypersonic gliders, and these other more sophisticated kinds of missiles, and I'll add that are far cheaper.

00:49:09.000 It just so happens that the ABM shield doesn't work.

00:49:13.000 There is no anti ballistic missile system that works in any reliable way.

00:49:19.000 These ABM shields shoot down about half of the missiles that are launched, and when they conduct tests on the systems, and When they conduct the tests, the ABM system knows where the missiles are going to be, when they're fired, where they're fired from.

00:49:39.000 The missiles are launched in the daytime so they can see them.

00:49:43.000 And even then, they only shoot down half of them.

00:49:45.000 There was only one test conducted at night, and the ABM didn't shoot down any of the missiles.

00:49:51.000 So the ABM shield is extremely expensive and it doesn't work.

00:49:55.000 Nevertheless, that we're even investing into it, Russia doesn't know what our capability is.

00:49:59.000 That we're investing into it is enough.

00:50:02.000 To destabilize the current order.

00:50:05.000 On the other hand, the hypersonic missiles are very cheap and they work.

00:50:11.000 They're precise, they work, and they're cheap.

00:50:15.000 And Russia and China are further along on those technologies than even the United States is.

00:50:21.000 And so this is just an example of, you know, trying to understand the things that the United States is doing that are provoking Russia.

00:50:30.000 And again, and this gets to the heart of the conversation, you know, throughout the debate, I'm saying, look, The United States is doing these things which are very provocative.

00:50:38.000 To pull out of the ABM treaty is extremely provocative.

00:50:42.000 It's destabilizing.

00:50:43.000 It upsets the order.

00:50:44.000 It disrupts Russia's security.

00:50:46.000 It is causing them to invest in more sophisticated missiles.

00:50:50.000 It's causing an arms race.

00:50:52.000 And this is just sort of hand waved away.

00:50:54.000 And, you know, the NATO side and the pro America side and the neocons, they sort of hand wave that away and they say, well, the ABM doesn't work.

00:51:04.000 Well, the ABM doesn't even work.

00:51:07.000 True.

00:51:09.000 Well, we only pulled out of the ABM to shoot down Iranian missiles, so that's not a big deal.

00:51:15.000 That's what they say.

00:51:18.000 Or they'll hand wave it away and they'll say, well, the United States would never launch a nuclear strike on Russia, so it's no big deal.

00:51:26.000 But the problem with that thinking is just like with Ukraine, it does not consider the security interests of Russia.

00:51:35.000 Yeah, it's easy to say that when you're in America.

00:51:39.000 You know, you feel a lot better about these things when you're in the country that has those capabilities.

00:51:45.000 You know, it's easy as an American to say, Yeah, you know, America probably won't nuke you today.

00:51:50.000 Oh, well, the ABM shield doesn't even really work.

00:51:53.000 Oh, well, we're not going to shoot down your missiles. 0.55

00:51:56.000 It's like, okay, but again, what is that doing for Russia?

00:51:59.000 You can say all of that, but that does nothing to reassure Russia.

00:52:04.000 Russia is going to have no confidence in this.

00:52:06.000 Oh, America won't first strike you.

00:52:09.000 Well, that promise and that assumption and that likelihood.

00:52:14.000 Gets you nothing.

00:52:15.000 It means nothing. 1.00

00:52:17.000 Is that good enough if you're Russia? 0.63

00:52:19.000 If you're a Russian citizen and you look up at the sky and you know that an American nuclear missile can fall out of the sky and land on you and kill everybody in a 10 mile radius, is it good enough for you to just say, like, well, you know, that probably won't happen? 0.70

00:52:34.000 Well, they said that they, you know, wouldn't shoot down our missiles.

00:52:38.000 Well, I don't think it really works.

00:52:40.000 Like, that's not good enough.

00:52:43.000 When we're talking about a country of 150 million people, when we're talking about a A country with a $3 trillion GDP.

00:52:49.000 We're talking about a great power and we're talking about a state apparatus.

00:52:55.000 They need assurances.

00:52:57.000 They need confidence.

00:52:59.000 And these kinds of assumptions about the West's goodwill and assumptions about the West's real capabilities, it's just not sufficient for a country to be confident in their security posture.

00:53:14.000 You would be far more confident as Russia to say, well, America won't strike us because our hypersonic missiles.

00:53:21.000 Pierce their ABM shield.

00:53:23.000 You know, think about it. 0.52

00:53:26.000 If you're the Russian president and your job is to keep your people safe, would you prefer to say, well, the United States ABM shield doesn't work and they probably won't strike us and it's for Iranian missiles anyway?

00:53:39.000 Or would you prefer to say, it doesn't matter if the Americans have an ABM shield?

00:53:44.000 We have a missile that will pierce anything.

00:53:47.000 We have an unstoppable missile and no matter what happens, if the U.S. initiates a first strike, they will be destroyed.

00:53:54.000 Which would you prefer?

00:53:57.000 And honestly, one of those, the latter, is an obligation.

00:54:03.000 If you're the president of Russia, you have an obligation to do the second thing.

00:54:07.000 That's the only, frankly, that's the only responsible thing to do.

00:54:11.000 That's the only responsible security policy.

00:54:15.000 If you're not doing anything and everything to ensure that you have parity, defensive parity, or offensive parity with the other side's capabilities, if you're not doing that, you're not doing your job as president.

00:54:29.000 So, in a sense, Putin has to do that. 0.56

00:54:31.000 If the U.S. pulls out of the ABM treaty, Putin has to develop hypersonic missiles.

00:54:36.000 Nothing personal.

00:54:38.000 Russia doesn't hate the West.

00:54:40.000 He doesn't want to kill everybody.

00:54:41.000 He's not evil.

00:54:42.000 But he has to develop a capability that can restore the nuclear balance.

00:54:49.000 And he can equally say, well, I'm not going to use them against America.

00:54:55.000 And that means just as much as America saying, we won't use our missiles against Russia.

00:54:59.000 We won't shoot down Russian missiles with our ABM shield.

00:55:02.000 It means just as much. 0.58

00:55:05.000 But that was only part of the argument.

00:55:07.000 That gives you an idea about the psychology here.

00:55:09.000 It's got nothing to do with antipathy or hate.

00:55:11.000 Hatred or greed, it's about security.

00:55:14.000 It's about confidence.

00:55:15.000 It's about balance.

00:55:16.000 And it's about perspective as well.

00:55:20.000 And you start to see some of the problems in the NATO position.

00:55:24.000 They have no sense for the Russian perspective. 0.52

00:55:27.000 Again, I agree in the sense that will NATO invade Russia?

00:55:33.000 Probably not.

00:55:35.000 Will the West succeed in building their ABM shield?

00:55:40.000 I mean, not anytime soon, and it's not done now.

00:55:42.000 But again, what assurance does that give to Russia?

00:55:46.000 We have been adversaries with Russia since 1945.

00:55:51.000 And there has been distrust and there has been subterfuge and deception for 70 years. 0.51

00:56:00.000 And so, what good does that do for Russia for us to say, hey, we promise we're not going to destroy you, even though we can?

00:56:07.000 It's not good enough.

00:56:08.000 They need to have more, they need to have a better assurance.

00:56:14.000 And that gives you an idea of the mentality.

00:56:16.000 But the other thing is to demonstrate this pattern of behavior that America does these kinds of things.

00:56:20.000 Where is it better for us to build an ABM shield in a selfish way and in a short sighted way?

00:56:26.000 You know, yes, potentially.

00:56:28.000 In the long term, it's going to backfire.

00:56:30.000 But yeah, we're building this ABM shield, but we're doing it without regard to anybody else's interest.

00:56:35.000 There's this blind side that we have.

00:56:38.000 And it's part of this pattern of behavior.

00:56:40.000 But then let's fast forward to the other argument, which is about NATO enlargement.

00:56:45.000 You know, the crux of the issue, obviously, about this whole Ukrainian war is that Russia is being provoked.

00:56:54.000 Into invading Ukraine.

00:56:57.000 And how are they being provoked?

00:56:58.000 With NATO expansion.

00:57:01.000 Over the past 20 years, NATO has expanded into 13 different countries since the enlargement process was initiated in 1997.

00:57:10.000 There were three major waves of NATO expansion in 1999, 2004, and 2009.

00:57:17.000 And with the NATO expansion into all these Eastern European countries, they're expanding into formerly neutral countries, into formerly Warsaw Pact countries, into countries that are.

00:57:27.000 Formerly part of Russia.

00:57:30.000 And since 2008, Russia has said it's a red line for Ukraine and Georgia to be made members of NATO.

00:57:36.000 Nevertheless, NATO keeps pushing for them to be a part of NATO.

00:57:40.000 And in 2014, there's a coup in Ukraine.

00:57:45.000 They overthrow the government.

00:57:46.000 It's backed by the West.

00:57:47.000 And people can dispute that, but there's evidence that suggests that the Western intelligence agencies were involved.

00:57:55.000 And the Ukrainian government is overthrown.

00:57:57.000 And a new government is installed that wants Ukraine to join NATO.

00:58:02.000 So, Russia moves in and they invade Crimea to secure their naval base on the Black Sea, and they back the separatists in Donbass because it's a stipulation that in order to join NATO, you can't have any kind of civil disorder.

00:58:14.000 So, by fueling the civil war in Donbass, this is preventing Ukraine from advancing towards NATO membership.

00:58:21.000 And in a sense, in 2014, NATO pushes across the red line.

00:58:28.000 Putin lays down the red line in 2008 and says Ukraine is not joining NATO.

00:58:32.000 And in 2014, that red line is crossed, and they say, well, we don't care.

00:58:37.000 We're going to overthrow the government and put Ukraine in NATO anyway.

00:58:40.000 And Putin pushes them right back and says, No, you're not, because I'm going to invade Crimea and I'm going to fuel a civil war, and that will preclude Ukraine from joining NATO.

00:58:49.000 You thought you were going to get away with this.

00:58:51.000 You thought you were going to push past my red line and make Ukraine part of NATO.

00:58:55.000 I don't think so.

00:58:56.000 Not so fast.

00:58:58.000 And understand the provocation came from the West.

00:59:02.000 Putin said in 2008, Ukraine is not going to join NATO.

00:59:06.000 And for six years, The West pushes.

00:59:09.000 They fund the Ukrainian opposition.

00:59:12.000 The National Endowment for Democracy is behind this.

00:59:15.000 They're pushing propaganda since at least 2010.

00:59:19.000 And they do not accept Russia's position for six years.

00:59:22.000 And after six years in 2014, they step over the red line.

00:59:26.000 They overthrow the government.

00:59:28.000 They don't win an election.

00:59:30.000 The Ukrainian people didn't vote in a referendum, they didn't elect a leader.

00:59:34.000 It was a Western backed, violent coup.

00:59:38.000 And they install a leader who's going to give them what they want. 0.51

00:59:42.000 They decisively and unquestionably cross the red line that Russia lays out. 0.56

00:59:49.000 And understand, too, Ukraine is part of Russia, okay? 0.56

00:59:53.000 It has been a part of Russia for 300 years, and it is in Russia's neighborhood.

00:59:58.000 This is on the border with Russia.

01:00:00.000 Russia has a military base in Crimea, it's on the Black Sea.

01:00:06.000 It is of vital strategic importance to Russia.

01:00:09.000 So they cross this red line.

01:00:10.000 And this is something that really is not even important to the NATO security posture, or, you know, that's not even to say the American security posture, but it is for Russia. 0.56

01:00:21.000 So they crossed this red line in a way that is so belligerent and in a way that is so offensive, and really for no good reason.

01:00:30.000 It's not like they invaded Ukraine because this mattered so much.

01:00:35.000 They pushed into Ukraine just because they thought they could do anything.

01:00:41.000 We saw that Putin drew a red line, and we said, you know what, we don't care.

01:00:46.000 Eh, we don't care.

01:00:48.000 And for no good reason, we pushed in because we never take no for an answer and we never respect other countries.

01:00:56.000 We just want it all.

01:00:59.000 And again, no good reason.

01:01:02.000 Just because every country has to be part of NATO, we have to have every country.

01:01:06.000 And you don't want us there?

01:01:07.000 Well, that just makes us want to be there even more.

01:01:11.000 And Putin says, yeah, not so fast.

01:01:13.000 I'm willing to go further than you.

01:01:14.000 I wouldn't.

01:01:15.000 You want to overthrow the government?

01:01:17.000 Okay, I'll invade Crimea and I'll feel the separatists.

01:01:20.000 So now you can't join NATO.

01:01:22.000 What are you going to do now?

01:01:24.000 What does the West do?

01:01:25.000 Does the West say, oh, you know what?

01:01:26.000 We pushed too far.

01:01:28.000 Does NATO say, all right, you know what?

01:01:30.000 Let's back off.

01:01:31.000 You know what?

01:01:31.000 We made a mistake.

01:01:34.000 It's not going to happen.

01:01:36.000 And they should have done that because, by the way, it can't happen.

01:01:40.000 Insofar as that civil war is ongoing and insofar as Crimea is disputed, Ukraine cannot join NATO.

01:01:47.000 It's just not in the cards.

01:01:49.000 And Russia's not moving out of Crimea anytime soon.

01:01:53.000 And Russia's not going to stop the civil war anytime soon because Russia drew a red line.

01:01:57.000 They said it's unacceptable.

01:02:00.000 It's black and white, no ifs, ands, or buts.

01:02:01.000 Ukraine cannot join NATO.

01:02:04.000 So Ukraine cannot join NATO under the current situation.

01:02:08.000 And the current situation is not going to change.

01:02:11.000 Russia's not going to give up Crimea.

01:02:13.000 It's just not going to happen.

01:02:14.000 And Russia's not going to stop fueling the civil war in Donbass.

01:02:19.000 And so, does NATO say, you know what, not worth it, let's pack it up?

01:02:23.000 We tried.

01:02:24.000 Clearly, it's not going to happen.

01:02:27.000 No, they keep pushing.

01:02:29.000 And so, they start giving money now to the Poroshenko government.

01:02:33.000 You know, they install the Western backed leader Poroshenko. 0.70

01:02:38.000 And they bring in these Galician neo Nazis who now head up the security forces and the military, and they occupy important positions in the government. 0.70

01:02:47.000 And they keep pushing. 0.56

01:02:49.000 And so now the United States is fueling the civil war on the other side.

01:02:53.000 So now you have a proxy war between Kiev and Donbass, with Kiev backed by the West and Donbass backed by Russia.

01:03:02.000 And what the West does is they embolden the Ukrainian leadership.

01:03:06.000 And so the Ukrainian leadership says, you know what?

01:03:09.000 I've got NATO behind me.

01:03:10.000 I've got America behind me. 0.90

01:03:12.000 I can challenge Russia. 0.85

01:03:13.000 I can stand up to Russia.

01:03:16.000 So Russia is, they're not as powerful as NATO, but they're vastly more powerful than Ukraine.

01:03:22.000 But Ukraine thinks that the West will do anything to defend them.

01:03:26.000 So now Ukraine says, you know what?

01:03:28.000 I'm not scared of you, Russia.

01:03:31.000 I'll use drones against Donbass and I'll talk about, and this is the precipitating factor.

01:03:38.000 Zelensky, who was recently elected in Ukraine, another Western backed leader, he signs an agreement with the United States bolstering their diplomatic relationship.

01:03:49.000 Zelensky threatens to rearm Ukraine with nuclear weapons.

01:03:54.000 The United States and the British are sailing destroyers and flying planes right up against the disputed territory in Crimea and Donbass.

01:04:02.000 So, you know, Russia intervenes and says, you know, not so fast, you're not crossing my red line.

01:04:07.000 And the United States and NATO walk right up to the red line and say, oh, yeah.

01:04:11.000 Well, we'll see who can draw red lines in the world.

01:04:15.000 Only we can say what goes.

01:04:17.000 You don't have any say.

01:04:19.000 And so finally, Russia invades Ukraine and says, you know what? 0.99

01:04:22.000 No more fucking around. 0.99

01:04:24.000 Ukraine's not going to get a nuclear weapon. 1.00

01:04:26.000 They're not going to join NATO.

01:04:27.000 They're not going to militarize on our border.

01:04:29.000 You're not going to be launching Turkish drone strikes on the Russian border.

01:04:33.000 It's just not going to happen.

01:04:34.000 You're not going to challenge our territory in the Black Sea. 0.77

01:04:38.000 And so Russia invades. 0.88

01:04:40.000 And then when Russia invades, Oh, bloody murder.

01:04:43.000 You know, NATO and America cry out, and it's all in the media, and they say, Oh, my, this is the worst thing that's ever happened. 0.92

01:04:50.000 He's a war criminal. 0.99

01:04:51.000 He's a murderer. 1.00

01:04:52.000 He invaded them for no good reason. 1.00

01:04:54.000 It's just like the Soviets. 0.92

01:04:55.000 It's just like Hungary in 56. 0.87

01:04:57.000 It's just like Prague in 68. 1.00

01:05:03.000 This is what the Russians always do. 0.99

01:05:05.000 They, you know, he just wants to rebuild his empire. 0.98

01:05:07.000 He's just greedy. 0.68

01:05:08.000 He's just a dictator.

01:05:09.000 And, you know, so once again, just like with the ABM shield, It's about this Western perspective, which is that the West can do no wrong.

01:05:21.000 You know, we just wanted to expand NATO.

01:05:24.000 We weren't going to use NATO to attack you.

01:05:27.000 We just wanted to take NATO. 0.94

01:05:29.000 We wanted to take Ukraine into NATO.

01:05:34.000 And understand that with the NATO membership comes a lot of consequences.

01:05:39.000 If Ukraine joins NATO, you know, why is this a red line for Putin?

01:05:43.000 Why is this a legitimate security problem for Putin?

01:05:47.000 If Ukraine joins NATO, NATO puts a military base in the Black Sea, a naval base.

01:05:53.000 If Ukraine joins NATO, NATO can deploy an ABM shield in Ukraine.

01:05:59.000 If Ukraine joins NATO, NATO can deploy short range and intermediate range nuclear missiles in Ukraine.

01:06:06.000 They can deploy hypersonic missiles in Ukraine that can reach Moscow in five minutes that are unstoppable.

01:06:12.000 So, in short, you know, once again, going back to this idea of balance and security.

01:06:19.000 If Ukraine joins NATO, NATO has a dagger at the throat of Moscow with ABM, with short range missiles, theater support missiles, and with the naval base in Sevastopol.

01:06:33.000 No question.

01:06:34.000 No question.

01:06:35.000 This puts Russia in a completely indefensible situation because if you look at a map of Eastern Europe, the Baltic states are a part of NATO, Poland is a part of NATO.

01:06:47.000 If Ukraine is a part of NATO, You've got Belarus sticking out. 0.55

01:06:51.000 That's an indefensible protrusion. 0.87

01:06:55.000 And you've got the Kaliningrad ex post.

01:07:01.000 In a hypothetical war, you would, and also then you have Turkey in the south as well.

01:07:06.000 In a hypothetical war, you have got an indefensible border from St. Petersburg in the north all the way down through to the Caucasus for Russia.

01:07:16.000 You've got a NATO attack, which, I mean, they would quickly take over Belarus.

01:07:20.000 And so you've got the entire northern European plain, all the way from St. Petersburg down to the Caucasus to defend. 0.64

01:07:28.000 You've got a NATO assault coming from the Black Sea.

01:07:31.000 You've got missiles, theater support missiles coming from Ukraine.

01:07:35.000 Belarus is wiped away.

01:07:36.000 I mean, you've got troops basically right there on the border of St. Petersburg, Moscow, of Volgograd.

01:07:45.000 I mean, it's over before it even begins.

01:07:48.000 And so Russia is put in a completely indefensible position.

01:07:52.000 Posture in both conventional and nuclear means if all of this is completed.

01:07:57.000 With Ukraine under the control of NATO, they could not win a conventional war, they could not win a nuclear war.

01:08:03.000 They put up an ABM shield to shoot down the nuclear missiles, and they can launch missiles just as easily, a full on naval assault, a land assault, and an aerial assault, and it's over.

01:08:17.000 And the only argument that comes from the other side is like, oh, well, but NATO wouldn't do that. 0.51

01:08:22.000 Well, NATO wouldn't do that.

01:08:25.000 Really?

01:08:27.000 And the reason that people compare it to Mexico, like what if Russia had an alliance with Mexico, is because the thought of Mexico having Russian nuclear missiles and having a Russian naval base in the Gulf of Mexico and having the entire southern border have to be defended against a potential peer competitor would just be unthinkable.

01:08:50.000 And then imagine if Russia was 13 times more powerful than the United States.

01:08:56.000 Right, or 20 times more powerful than the United States. 0.83

01:08:59.000 That would be the equivalent.

01:09:00.000 What if Russia were 20 times more powerful and Mexico was in a defensive alliance with Russia and Russia had their ICBMs, or I should say short and intermediate range missiles, and an anti ballistic missile shield, and they had a naval base in Mexico?

01:09:16.000 It would be unthinkable.

01:09:19.000 And the Russians could say, oh, well, we're not going to invade you.

01:09:21.000 But again, who would be confident in that kind of a promise?

01:09:27.000 Nobody would be. 0.95

01:09:30.000 And that's to illustrate the Russian perspective on this. 0.97

01:09:32.000 Why was it necessary for them? 0.98

01:09:34.000 Why was this such a security risk? 0.72

01:09:36.000 Because between what the United States has done with the missile treaties, this new arms race, what we've done in the Middle East, the expansion of NATO, we are putting Russia in a position where it cannot defend itself. 0.66

01:09:51.000 And we have demonstrated no good faith, we have demonstrated no restraint either.

01:09:57.000 You know, when we didn't like Gaddafi, we just took him out. 0.73

01:10:00.000 When we didn't like Assad, we just tried to take him out. 0.95

01:10:02.000 And it didn't matter who we had to back.

01:10:04.000 We backed Al Qaeda and ISIS.

01:10:06.000 We didn't like Saddam Hussein.

01:10:07.000 We took him out.

01:10:12.000 So, you've got this pattern of behavior where we don't care about other countries' security.

01:10:17.000 We do whatever we want.

01:10:18.000 We don't follow international law.

01:10:21.000 We depose countries we don't like.

01:10:23.000 We contain countries that we don't like, but we can't do anything about yet.

01:10:26.000 And then we're putting Russia in a position where if we wanted to take them out, they couldn't stop us. 0.77

01:10:32.000 That's why Russia invaded Ukraine. 0.76

01:10:36.000 And on the three major points, destiny says, well, He says, what is it?

01:10:45.000 That Ukraine's sovereignty is inviolable.

01:10:48.000 Well, he also said that sovereignty was conditional.

01:10:51.000 When NATO invaded Libya, or I should say, when NATO conducted airstrikes and deposed Gaddafi in Libya and threw the country into anarchy for 10 years, Destiny said, oh, well, that was justified, even though it was a violation of a country's sovereignty because of certain conditions.

01:11:09.000 I said, oh, well, so sovereignty is conditional then?

01:11:11.000 He said, yeah.

01:11:11.000 I said, well, who determines the conditions?

01:11:14.000 NATO.

01:11:15.000 Okay. 0.58

01:11:17.000 So, why was the invasion of Ukraine wrong?

01:11:20.000 Because you can never violate a country's sovereignty unless NATO says it's okay.

01:11:25.000 Really?

01:11:26.000 So, what happens if NATO wants to violate Russia's sovereignty?

01:11:29.000 I guess that's okay.

01:11:32.000 So, that argument doesn't work.

01:11:34.000 He says, well, Ukraine wants NATO membership, but does not want to be in Russia's sphere of influence.

01:11:41.000 Well, I would quibble with that because they had to have a revolution in Kiev for Ukraine to want to join NATO.

01:11:52.000 Ukraine didn't want to join NATO.

01:11:53.000 That's why they had to oust the president.

01:11:56.000 That's why they'd overthrow the government and install a new one.

01:12:00.000 And then, anyway, that fails in the latter argument because the final argument is no country's security can be enhanced at the expense of another's.

01:12:07.000 Well, we can surely demonstrate that Ukraine joining NATO, while it may enhance Ukraine's security, clearly comes at a detriment to Russia's security.

01:12:15.000 So it actually doesn't matter what Ukraine wants.

01:12:18.000 It cannot enhance its own security at the expense of Russia, which is what joining NATO does.

01:12:24.000 So, the argument fails on every front.

01:12:28.000 And it also fails on the front of if you're going to defend NATO and the United States, well, NATO and the United States have done things that are far less defensible than what Russia is doing in Ukraine now.

01:12:38.000 And we could get into a lot of counterexamples.

01:12:39.000 We could get into the Saudis' war in Yemen.

01:12:42.000 We could get into Israel's war in Palestine and Syria.

01:12:46.000 We could get into the Monroe Doctrine and everything that that has entailed for 200 years.

01:12:52.000 You know, I mean, there are so many counterexamples with how.

01:12:55.000 The United States and NATO was acted in recent years that there just wasn't time to cover that in the debate.

01:13:01.000 You know, like for example, the situation in Yemen.

01:13:05.000 So, at about the same time that the Ukraine crisis started, the government in Yemen was overthrown by Shiite rebels backed by Iran.

01:13:15.000 Yemen is a country on the Arabian Peninsula, south of Saudi Arabia, west of Oman. 0.74

01:13:22.000 And this was a vassal state of Saudi Arabia.

01:13:27.000 The monarchy in Yemen was overthrown.

01:13:29.000 By Iranian rebels.

01:13:30.000 Iran and Saudi Arabia are in this sort of Cold War in the Middle East.

01:13:35.000 They're engaged in multiple proxy wars across the region.

01:13:38.000 So Iran backs rebels in Yemen.

01:13:40.000 Yemen, the rebels overthrow the Saudi backed government in Yemen.

01:13:45.000 And what does Saudi Arabia do?

01:13:48.000 They launch a brutal invasion of Yemen.

01:13:50.000 It's the worst humanitarian disaster in the world. 1.00

01:13:53.000 And the United States fully supports it.

01:13:55.000 We refuel their planes.

01:13:56.000 We have American mercenaries there.

01:13:59.000 We have American operators there.

01:14:01.000 It's not even legal that they are there.

01:14:03.000 But what we say is that we're fighting Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula there, even though they don't operate there anymore.

01:14:11.000 But so we back what is essentially the same thing.

01:14:14.000 You know, Russia invaded Ukraine because Western backed rebels overthrew the government and wanted to extend the Western empire there.

01:14:23.000 So Russia invaded.

01:14:24.000 Well, the same thing happened in the Arabian Peninsula Yemen was a vassal state of Saudi Arabia.

01:14:30.000 The Iranian rebels overthrew the government.

01:14:32.000 So Saudi Arabia invaded and conducted a brutal war. 0.99

01:14:35.000 And we back that war.

01:14:36.000 And there's no, you know, stand with Yemen against the United States.

01:14:40.000 It just doesn't happen.

01:14:42.000 You know, Visa and MasterCard don't pull out of Yemen.

01:14:44.000 There's no, you know, anything like that, or out of Saudi Arabia, I should say.

01:14:50.000 I mean, it's effectively the same situation.

01:14:53.000 And then the same thing with Israel.

01:14:55.000 What's the argument for why Israel is occupying the West Bank and the Gaza Strip or the Golan Heights?

01:15:01.000 You know, in 1967, there's this Arab Israeli war.

01:15:06.000 And the Israelis not only beat back the Arabs, but they then occupy a greater extent of Palestinian lands than ever before.

01:15:14.000 And they move into the Sinai Peninsula and they move into the Golan Heights in Syria. 0.86

01:15:18.000 They eventually relinquish Sinai, but they keep the Golan Heights to this day and they retain control over those areas in Palestine. 0.76

01:15:26.000 And they say, well, we have to control Palestine because if we don't, Palestine will be used to attack Israel. 0.92

01:15:35.000 And the United States unconditionally supports this. 0.95

01:15:38.000 Since 1967.

01:15:42.000 It's the same thing. 0.60

01:15:43.000 Israel is occupying Jerusalem, West Bank, and Gaza Strip and Golan for the same reason that Russia is currently in Ukraine.

01:15:52.000 For the same reason.

01:15:54.000 And it's not to pass judgment on Israel.

01:15:56.000 I'm not trying to, you know, that's not, I'm not making a value statement about Israel's occupation of those territories.

01:16:04.000 But it is to say, you know, if in principle you're opposed to these kinds of military operations, well, then where's the outrage over Israel?

01:16:12.000 Where's the outrage over Saudi Arabia?

01:16:14.000 Where's the outrage over Syria?

01:16:15.000 I mean, that's what we're doing in Syria.

01:16:18.000 We tried to back the so called moderate opposition to Assad and overthrow the government.

01:16:27.000 And, you know, Assad is defeating our forces there.

01:16:30.000 And so, you know, then we started conducting airstrikes.

01:16:32.000 And there was a debate about invading.

01:16:34.000 We still have about, you know, what is it?

01:16:37.000 Two, 5,000 contractors and other American mercenaries.

01:16:43.000 This is what great powers do.

01:16:45.000 This is how great powers behave.

01:16:47.000 It's not a war crime.

01:16:49.000 It's not unprecedented.

01:16:50.000 It's not 19th century.

01:16:53.000 This is what great powers do.

01:16:54.000 They always have.

01:16:55.000 They always will.

01:16:56.000 That is how they behave.

01:16:58.000 They will pursue their security at any cost, and then they will find a pretext to justify it.

01:17:06.000 And that's all that that is.

01:17:07.000 Oh, well, we deposed Gaddafi for reasons.

01:17:11.000 You'll always find a reason.

01:17:13.000 But it's just this quibbling about, oh, well, your reason's not good enough.

01:17:17.000 We took out Gaddafi because, you know, his election wasn't fair enough.

01:17:22.000 But Russia invaded Ukraine because they were going to join NATO. 0.59

01:17:26.000 Well, that's not one of the exceptions that we approve of.

01:17:32.000 They're all exceptions, and all exceptions are pretexts.

01:17:35.000 They're all pretense.

01:17:37.000 They're all just excuses to go to war to protect vital interests.

01:17:42.000 Every time, always.

01:17:43.000 That's what it's for.

01:17:47.000 So, and like it's so naive to say otherwise.

01:17:50.000 No, no, but our reasons are the good reasons.

01:17:53.000 No, there are no good reasons.

01:17:55.000 Why are we backing Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen?

01:17:58.000 That one's not about democracy. 0.99

01:18:00.000 You think Saudi Arabia invaded Yemen to establish a fucking democracy? 0.99

01:18:04.000 They invaded Yemen because it was gonna be a Shia satellite state for Iran. 1.00

01:18:08.000 That's why. 0.97

01:18:10.000 And now they're conducting a brutal war that they can't even win.

01:18:14.000 And so it's a stalemate because the Saudi military is completely ineffective.

01:18:19.000 And we're fueling this never ending conflict.

01:18:22.000 And that one's got nothing to do with democracy or, you know, self determination or anything like that. 0.82

01:18:29.000 What's the Saudi basis for? 0.54

01:18:31.000 Violating the sovereignty of Yemen. 0.89

01:18:34.000 There is no. 1.00

01:18:35.000 There is no basis.

01:18:37.000 And they didn't need one because it's not on CNN.

01:18:40.000 And it's not on CNN because that's part of the Council on Foreign Relations agenda.

01:18:48.000 So, how naive do you have to be? 1.00

01:18:50.000 I mean, are you just stupid? 1.00

01:18:53.000 I mean, think about it. 1.00

01:18:54.000 They're seriously going to say, well, I'm really mad about Russia invading Ukraine because they violated the sovereignty of Ukraine and Ukraine.

01:19:03.000 Has a right to determine if it wants to join NATO.

01:19:05.000 That's why I'm mad.

01:19:06.000 That's why this is wrong.

01:19:08.000 And you know, TV is covering it and social media is amplifying it because this is the right position.

01:19:15.000 Because, you know, they're good people that support democracy, not because it's what the State Department and the intelligence agencies and the National Endowment for Democracy and the NGOs want.

01:19:27.000 You know, this isn't agenda driven.

01:19:30.000 This didn't originate in the foreign policy establishment in DC.

01:19:34.000 No, this is just the right thing.

01:19:36.000 This is what people want.

01:19:37.000 This is all legitimate.

01:19:41.000 Okay, so if sovereignty is inviolable and if self determination is sacrosanct, then where's the outrage over the Saudi war in Yemen that the United States is funding and providing material support for? 0.73

01:19:55.000 Because it's the same thing. 0.57

01:19:57.000 Except there is no pretense about, I mean, there's no, nobody is arguing that Yemen has an inviolable, no one's even talking about it. 0.59

01:20:06.000 And no one's talking about the war in Yemen because. 0.59

01:20:10.000 The Council on Foreign Relations supports that war.

01:20:12.000 The State Department supports that war.

01:20:15.000 The CIA and the Pentagon support that war.

01:20:18.000 And you will not see it on CNN because CNN obeys those institutions.

01:20:23.000 And you won't see it on social media because big tech obeys those institutions.

01:20:28.000 And as a consequence, nobody's talking about it. 1.00

01:20:32.000 And nobody's talking about it because they weren't fucking told to talk about it because people are ignorant and stupid and they will just go with whatever is on TV. 0.99

01:20:40.000 But, you know, like Destiny is making this case of like, oh, you know, People are, you know, people are just mad. 1.00

01:20:47.000 This is outrage driven.

01:20:48.000 You know, the reason that everybody is upset with Russia, like Visa and McDonald's left Russia because of popular outrage.

01:20:56.000 You know, the people spontaneously noticed what was happening in Ukraine and it was such an outrage.

01:21:02.000 They demanded something be done about it.

01:21:04.000 They held McDonald's accountable and McDonald's answered to the people, as did NBC.

01:21:10.000 NBC covered it because the people were hungry for coverage of the war in Ukraine. 1.00

01:21:14.000 It's like bullshit. 0.99

01:21:16.000 No. 1.00

01:21:17.000 No, the institutions do not respond to what the people want.

01:21:20.000 The people want what the institutions tell them to want.

01:21:26.000 The institutions set the agenda, and the media launders the agenda through public opinion, and public opinion feeds it back to the institutions.

01:21:34.000 And that is why people cry bloody murder over Russia's invasion in Ukraine, but the American government funds the Saudis' war in Yemen. 0.66

01:21:43.000 And it's got nothing to do with democracy, it's got nothing to do with self determination or the fucking UN or the UN's laws on war or any of that. 0.93

01:21:53.000 And that's realism. 0.90

01:21:54.000 And that's realism.

01:21:56.000 That's understanding how the world works.

01:21:59.000 Trust me when I say this.

01:22:00.000 You are not making the foreign policy decisions of the United States government.

01:22:05.000 Do you think you are? 0.97

01:22:07.000 You know, and fundamentally, that's the conceit of the other side they really believe that, you know, some fucking tranny in a ballerina skirt who's drinking soy and playing Valorant, they think that person is making decisions for McDonald's boycotting Russia. 0.97

01:22:27.000 I mean, that's literally what they think. 0.99

01:22:29.000 They think that the Pentagon and the State Department and all of that is at the beck and call of some fucking guy with boobs, with pink hair, who is balding, who is complaining about war crimes on Twitter because he saw it on Reddit. 0.98

01:22:47.000 And, like, I can assure you, that is not the direction of how these things are decided. 0.99

01:22:53.000 It is decisively in the other way.

01:22:58.000 No, as a matter of fact, the policies are set in Washington.

01:23:03.000 The policies are determined in Washington.

01:23:08.000 And the policies are determined by think tanks, permanent bureaucrats, and lobbyists.

01:23:16.000 It's called the Iron Triangle.

01:23:18.000 You've got the interest groups, which are the lobbyists, you have the think tanks.

01:23:24.000 And what is a think tank?

01:23:26.000 The think tanks draw from Harvard and Yale and MIT.

01:23:30.000 The think tanks draw from all the elite academic institutions.

01:23:34.000 They pick them out.

01:23:35.000 Those are the most prestigious jobs Georgetown and George Mason and Harvard and Yale and all of that.

01:23:43.000 The think tanks suck up all the Ivy League.

01:23:46.000 And who are the Ivy League people?

01:23:48.000 How do you get into an Ivy League college?

01:23:50.000 Legacy.

01:23:51.000 How do you get into Ivy League college? 0.98

01:23:52.000 Well, the Ivy League schools are like 30% Jewish and they're almost all legacy admissions. 0.99

01:23:58.000 Or it's foreign students, right? 0.91

01:24:01.000 So these are the people that are filling the think tanks.

01:24:03.000 And the think tanks are all the best and brightest, and they're writing the policy.

01:24:07.000 They're doing the research.

01:24:09.000 I mean, they're creating the picture of the world and of the policy.

01:24:12.000 So it's the interest groups, which are representing all the richest. 0.77

01:24:16.000 It's the think tanks, which are all the elite academics, Jews, legacy people, meaning like other people that went to Harvard and Yale. 0.94

01:24:24.000 So that's like the current elite just reproducing itself. 0.97

01:24:27.000 And then you've got the bureaucracies.

01:24:29.000 Then you've got the agencies and the departments and the executive branch, the bureaucrats that have been there forever, the proper deep state.

01:24:37.000 The Pentagon, Officer Corps, Intelligence Agencies, they are the ones setting the policy.

01:24:42.000 So you get this conglomeration of, like, you know, the Atlantic Council and the Brookings Institute and, like, the Council on Foreign Relations in concert with Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and the Pentagon and the IC and the State Department.

01:24:59.000 And they are setting a policy about Ukraine.

01:25:03.000 And the policy that they set is well, Ukraine should be a part of NATO.

01:25:07.000 And that is good for a number of reasons.

01:25:09.000 That is good for American energy.

01:25:11.000 That is good for vested American corporate interests.

01:25:15.000 It's good for the State Department.

01:25:16.000 It's good for the Pentagon.

01:25:18.000 The Pentagon wants it because they want to put their missiles there.

01:25:20.000 The State Department wants it because they want their embassy there.

01:25:23.000 And they want democracy, liberal democracy to flourish there.

01:25:28.000 And maybe investors want it because if Ukraine is a part of NATO and there's a thriving liberal democracy, then that means that Western energy companies can invest in all the shale oil in Ukraine and all the natural gas deposits in the Black Sea and profit from it.

01:25:44.000 And they don't have to ship expensive liquefied natural gas to Western Europe to stave them off of Russian natural gas, which is cheaper and comes from a pipeline through Ukraine.

01:25:55.000 So they three, this Iron Triangle, comes up with the policy, and then they send over the CIA to kill the people in Maidan, and they send over billions to back the opposition. 0.99

01:26:07.000 They have a monopoly on media, they control the media, they overthrow the government, and then Putin pushes their shit in and says, not so fast. 0.99

01:26:16.000 We just invaded Crimea. 1.00

01:26:17.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:26:18.000 And they go, Oh, you want to say F you? 1.00

01:26:21.000 Well, you know, we got an answer for you.

01:26:26.000 Putin invades.

01:26:27.000 And then they rally their troops, you know, the Iron Triangle.

01:26:30.000 They rally their troops in the media, and the media sets the tone.

01:26:34.000 The narrative comes from the think tanks, right?

01:26:37.000 The think tanks write the papers and they do the research.

01:26:41.000 You know, the foreign policy experts get interviewed on the shows, they write the policy papers and the experts.

01:26:50.000 And the journalists pick it up in the Times and in the Washington Post, and then that is fed into the lowest common denominator sources like BuzzFeed and Vox and all the others.

01:27:03.000 And then this is what people are guzzling 24 7 because there is no other media.

01:27:10.000 So, you know, where are people getting their news about the world?

01:27:14.000 CNN and NBC, they're watching the shows, and the shows go to the experts, and the experts all came from Harvard and so on.

01:27:21.000 Okay, and they're going to social media, and the social media timeline and trending topics and hashtags are curated by big tech.

01:27:30.000 And so they're getting a curated timeline again of legacy news sources and others, and it's all the experts feeding them the narrative.

01:27:38.000 And so then everybody is saying, Wow, this have you heard about this Ukraine thing?

01:27:42.000 This is horrible. 0.60

01:27:43.000 And they're talking amongst themselves, and then they're tweeting about it and they're regurgitating it back to the establishment.

01:27:50.000 And there's this illusion that it initiated with them, like, Well, people.

01:27:55.000 Saw what was happening on TV and they got so mad about it, they demanded that action be taken and then the government responded.

01:28:02.000 And this is how the Iron Triangle launders its agenda through public opinion.

01:28:07.000 That's what launders means.

01:28:08.000 Because the Iron Triangle couldn't announce to the people, like, hey, we're going to war with Russia because there's this illusion of a civilian elected government.

01:28:18.000 But they can work through the media, they can work through the algorithmic curation on social media.

01:28:26.000 And brainwash people into believing their position.

01:28:29.000 And then the people will, like a feedback, regurgitate that back in elections and on social media and in protests and other astroturf displays of public support. 0.85

01:28:39.000 And then the elected government will respond to the people and carry out the policy that the Iron Triangle wanted. 0.57

01:28:45.000 That is how these things work. 0.69

01:28:48.000 And Russia knows that's how things work.

01:28:50.000 China knows that's how it works.

01:28:52.000 That's why we've had the same policy for 30 years.

01:28:55.000 You know, and I told this to Destiny, I'm like, you know, this is what's going on.

01:28:59.000 And he's like, I'm like, look at Obama.

01:29:01.000 Obama said he would end the wars and he would close Guantanamo and end the spying, and it all went on anyway.

01:29:07.000 And Destiny was like, well, maybe Obama got in and thought, wow, I didn't realize how bad things were.

01:29:14.000 It's like, you know, they just, they're so naive. 0.98

01:29:18.000 They think that it's like, they think that these institutions are way more ignorant than they are. 0.95

01:29:26.000 No, Obama got in there, and then he was told, like, hey, this is how this stuff works, you know?

01:29:32.000 And there was, like in every administration, you know, there's a personnel coup, and just like when the Trump admin.

01:29:43.000 So, anyway, and this is, you know, I mean, I'm sort of getting off track, but that's what these liberals believe.

01:29:51.000 I mean, they think like, I don't even know.

01:29:54.000 Fundamentally, it's like process oriented.

01:29:57.000 You know, I guess they don't really understand the process.

01:29:59.000 Like, they really believe like, oh, my ideas about Ukraine are my own and they're about ideas.

01:30:04.000 Like, it's not about ideas.

01:30:06.000 Ukraine is not receiving public support because it's spontaneous, like, consciousness from the people.

01:30:13.000 No, people were told to think a certain way by TV.

01:30:17.000 And, you know, the war in Ukraine is not about democracy. 0.75

01:30:20.000 You know, like I said, if it was, why would we back Saudi Arabia? 0.71

01:30:25.000 It's got nothing to do with democracy. 0.94

01:30:27.000 And if people were spontaneously being aware about these things, hey, they would have stopped the Yemen thing nine years ago, you know? 0.95

01:30:36.000 So it's just ridiculous. 0.99

01:30:39.000 And this, you know, this Iron Triangle is literally going to get us all killed because. 0.85

01:30:46.000 Like, they just are never stopped.

01:30:48.000 There's no oversight.

01:30:49.000 There's no accountability.

01:30:51.000 They have unlimited resources. 0.94

01:30:54.000 And, you know, these are the sociopaths. 0.97

01:30:56.000 These are the murderers that are going to get all of us killed, ultimately.

01:31:00.000 So, and, you know, that's why the Harvey Weinstein and the Jeffrey Epstein thing were so important because Jeffrey Epstein was your bridge between Hollywood and the intelligence agencies.

01:31:14.000 Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent and he had dealings with.

01:31:18.000 Hollywood celebrities and financiers and the British government and other world governments.

01:31:24.000 And it's like, and Harvey Weinstein too.

01:31:26.000 Harvey Weinstein was protected by an outfit which was all former Mossad agents.

01:31:32.000 And that demonstrates that, you know, all this pedophile, like, you know, conspiracy stuff that happens in Hollywood and the media, it's inextricably linked with the Iron Triangle.

01:31:44.000 It's linked up with intelligence.

01:31:46.000 So when we talk about conspiracies, it's like, There is a vast network of control happening here.

01:31:52.000 It's not like you have these thriving democratic institutions that are all independent and performing separate functions.

01:31:58.000 They're all organs of democracy.

01:32:01.000 No, they're all, I mean, these are all mechanisms of control of about 1,000 people, you know, 1,000 to 3,000 people in the world that are making all the decisions.

01:32:11.000 And they're enforcing their decisions with blackmail, extortion, you know, and other kinds of punitive things.

01:32:25.000 But anyway, so that's now I'm just totally off track.

01:32:27.000 But that was a debate, and like I said, I thought it went very well because I mean, at a certain point, he just in order to justify his position, he was just making these crazy claims.

01:32:39.000 Like he was saying, you know, yeah, NATO determines when sovereignty can be violated.

01:32:45.000 Like if you say that, you lose the debate.

01:32:47.000 I'm sorry, but nothing else matters.

01:32:49.000 If you start out by saying, you know, under no circumstances can Russia violate Ukraine's sovereignty, And then later on, you say, oh, well, NATO invaded Libya.

01:32:57.000 That was okay because sovereignty is actually conditional.

01:33:00.000 Who determines when it can be violated?

01:33:02.000 Well, we do, of course.

01:33:04.000 Yeah, like you lost.

01:33:05.000 And then also, he said something like, you know, I said, well, Russia should influence Ukraine because there's nothing wrong with great powers influencing weaker neighbors.

01:33:15.000 And he said, well, we don't do that.

01:33:17.000 And I said, yeah, we do.

01:33:18.000 We do that everywhere.

01:33:19.000 And he was like, no, we don't.

01:33:21.000 And so, if you're asserting that, like, the American government doesn't exert influence in the Western hemisphere, Like in Mexico, I don't even know what to tell you.

01:33:29.000 Like at that point, you just need to read a book or something. 0.54

01:33:32.000 And then there was one other ridiculous thing.

01:33:34.000 Oh, and then he said something like, you know, NATO will never invade Russia. 0.92

01:33:39.000 When you say things like that, it just shows you don't understand foreign relations at all.

01:33:45.000 Well, NATO probably won't invade Russia.

01:33:47.000 Okay. 0.93

01:33:47.000 And, you know, I'm pointing a gun at you. 0.93

01:33:49.000 I probably won't kill you right now. 0.97

01:33:51.000 And, you know, I'm sure you feel really good about that, right? 0.99

01:33:55.000 I have an AR 15 and it's a loaded gun in your mouth. 0.99

01:33:59.000 I promise I won't kill you. 0.99

01:34:00.000 I have no reason to. 1.00

01:34:02.000 You know, that would be like if I put a loaded gun in your mouth. 1.00

01:34:05.000 And I said, hey, listen, I mean, if I shoot you, I mean, I will go to jail. 1.00

01:34:09.000 I have no reason to kill you. 0.99

01:34:11.000 I won't, I most likely will not do it. 0.78

01:34:13.000 And it's true, I probably won't do it.

01:34:15.000 But, like, does that make you feel good?

01:34:16.000 Do you feel good about that? 0.68

01:34:18.000 Do you feel good having a loaded gun in your mouth? 1.00

01:34:20.000 Like, I have a loaded gun in your mouth, the barrel of a loaded gun in your fucking mouth. 1.00

01:34:26.000 And I'm like, hey, like, but I promise, I most likely would make no sense. 1.00

01:34:32.000 I'm doing this out of self defense.

01:34:35.000 Why would I pull the trigger?

01:34:37.000 I have never done this before.

01:34:38.000 I've never done this to anyone before, and I've never shot you before.

01:34:43.000 Don't you feel good about this?

01:34:45.000 Don't you feel fine?

01:34:46.000 You know, why would this be a problem for you?

01:34:48.000 You know, of course you would say, like, hey, get this loaded gun out of my mouth.

01:34:55.000 It's just obvious.

01:34:59.000 I know that's a sort of oversimplification, but like the point stands.

01:35:04.000 If somebody has a capability to utterly destroy you, it really honestly doesn't matter what their intentions are, what they say they're going to do.

01:35:11.000 It's unacceptable, you know?

01:35:18.000 So that's the point.

01:35:19.000 And you could make all kinds of convoluted, like, well, but that's not quite the same thing.

01:35:23.000 The point is, you know, taking Ukraine is a strategic detriment to Russia.

01:35:31.000 And you could call it defensive, but for Russia to not have Ukraine is strategically a detriment.

01:35:36.000 And it doesn't matter who has it, it's just unacceptable for them to be so vulnerable.

01:35:43.000 Vulnerability is not acceptable like that.

01:35:45.000 I mean, that level of being vulnerable, as a president of Russia, you're not responsible if you allow that.

01:35:53.000 And it'd be one thing if he'd nuked Ukraine or he invaded Poland, but we're talking about a special military operation with very limited objectives, which we'll get into tomorrow because I've already been live for an hour and 40 minutes.

01:36:08.000 So, you know what?

01:36:09.000 I'll save the news for tomorrow.

01:36:12.000 We'll pick this up where I left off tomorrow because tonight's show I was going to get into.

01:36:16.000 Putin's demands, which are extremely reasonable, but we just don't have time to do that tonight.

01:36:25.000 So I'll have to change the title here.

01:36:30.000 And we'll just cover what I was going to cover tonight, tomorrow.

01:36:39.000 Ah.

01:36:45.000 Okay.

01:36:51.000 Yeah, so we're going to move on to the super chat.

01:36:53.000 So, with that, we will move on to the super chats.

01:36:57.000 And we'll see what you guys have to say about all of that.

01:37:00.000 I am hot, okay?

01:37:02.000 I am sweating.

01:37:03.000 My shirt is wet. 1.00

01:37:05.000 My ass is wet. 1.00

01:37:07.000 I am sweating in here. 1.00

01:37:08.000 I don't know why, if it's just because I'm getting all worked up.

01:37:12.000 I think it's just because I'm getting worked up talking about this.

01:37:16.000 I mean, I think I have like.

01:37:19.000 Look at what I'm like wet.

01:37:22.000 I'm soaking wet.

01:37:25.000 Should I take my jacket off?

01:37:26.000 That would look unprofessional.

01:37:28.000 I'll keep the jacket on, but I'm like, ah, okay.

01:37:36.000 Yeah, man, it's hot in here.

01:37:38.000 I'm gonna open the door.

01:37:41.000 I'm gonna open the door.

01:37:42.000 I'm gonna leave my chair for I never do this, but I'm dying out here, man.

01:37:48.000 I'm just dying.

01:37:50.000 Ugh.

01:37:59.000 You know what?

01:38:00.000 Should I just change?

01:38:02.000 I mean, it's just not, you know, I'm gonna, should I change my pants?

01:38:08.000 I don't know.

01:38:08.000 Should I?

01:38:11.000 It's just not enjoyable for me right now.

01:38:14.000 I'm literally sweating.

01:38:17.000 All right, I'm gonna change into some shorts.

01:38:19.000 Well, no, then you're gonna see them.

01:38:22.000 All right, I guess I'll just sit back down.

01:38:27.000 I guess I'll just sit back down.

01:38:30.000 Ah.

01:38:35.000 But I'm dying over here, man.

01:38:42.000 I'll just try and wrap up quickly because I mean, I'm really dying over here.

01:38:56.000 So I had to open the door.

01:38:59.000 It's getting hot in here.

01:39:00.000 You know, I just get into this, you know.

01:39:03.000 I'm losing my voice, you know, because I'm talking so much.

01:39:08.000 I get into this foreign policy stuff, man.

01:39:10.000 I just get really worked up about it, okay?

01:39:13.000 I just get really.

01:39:15.000 Because I'm getting pissed off, like I'm saying, and I'm getting into it, and I'm like gesticulating, and I'm getting angry, I'm like raising my voice.

01:39:33.000 So let me just calm down and then we'll get into the super chats.

01:39:45.000 Yeah.

01:39:51.000 So that's my take on it.

01:39:53.000 That's my recap of the debate.

01:39:54.000 But like I said, I'll probably go back and watch the whole debate on stream and give live commentary during it.

01:40:04.000 Maybe, probably not tomorrow.

01:40:06.000 I got to do stuff tomorrow, but maybe Wednesday.

01:40:10.000 Yeah, that was exhausting.

01:40:21.000 I hate the live chat. 0.98

01:40:23.000 Every message in live chat is just garbage, okay? 0.82

01:40:26.000 And the stuff that you say, I just question what kind of people are writing these messages?

01:40:33.000 Why would people write these things?

01:40:44.000 Like someone says, Arizona Chad, he says, Nick needs to get cozy.

01:40:49.000 Like, why say that?

01:40:51.000 Like, what's even the point of writing that?

01:40:54.000 Arizona Chad, good guy.

01:40:56.000 But I read a chat like that, and I'm like, why?

01:40:59.000 Some people just say things just to say things. 0.99

01:41:02.000 They're just saying, it's like the equivalent of just garbage. 0.98

01:41:05.000 Like, Nick needs to get cozy. 0.96

01:41:08.000 It's like, okay, yeah, and someone says, Nick loves me.

01:41:15.000 Like, see, is that funny?

01:41:16.000 Like, why?

01:41:17.000 What's the Why would you even write that, you know?

01:41:35.000 So, yeah.

01:41:37.000 Good guy.

01:41:38.000 We like Arizona, Chad.

01:41:40.000 Good guy.

01:41:41.000 He's a Chad.

01:41:44.000 I didn't deliberately pick him out of the bunch here, but I just took a random one.

01:41:47.000 It just happened to be him.

01:41:48.000 Good guy, but he's got a good TikTok. 0.99

01:41:51.000 But, like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:41:58.000 Worsel or Wooza says, I love you. 1.00

01:42:00.000 See, that's funny.

01:42:01.000 That's funny.

01:42:02.000 See, at least that's funny.

01:42:06.000 Some of these other ones, it's just like people just like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:42:09.000 It's like, you know, it's like a big crowd of people just going blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:42:17.000 Like, that's my live chat.

01:42:18.000 Every other live chat, there's like some semblance of like a conversation. 1.00

01:42:24.000 And my live chat, people are just like blah, Everybody's just saying just complete crap and just garbage. 0.99

01:42:35.000 Nick, twerk, please. 0.99

01:42:36.000 See, like, why?

01:42:36.000 I mean, why even say that?

01:42:39.000 It's not even funny.

01:42:49.000 This is why I just ignore this.

01:42:51.000 This is why I ignore the live chat every night.

01:42:53.000 I just ignore it because it's just cancer. 0.81

01:42:55.000 It's just complete AIDS.

01:42:57.000 And I just hate the live chat. 0.96

01:42:59.000 I hate it.

01:43:00.000 I hate live chat, okay?

01:43:02.000 And I hate it.

01:43:04.000 But, you know, I just ignore it every night.

01:43:07.000 And every time I look at it, it just like fills me with rage.

01:43:12.000 So, going back to ignore, I'm ignoring you now.

01:43:15.000 I'm ignoring the live chat now.

01:43:17.000 That's for you.

01:43:18.000 That's for someone else.

01:43:19.000 It's definitely not for me.

01:43:20.000 So, I'll just go into the super chats and not much better, but you know, whatever.

01:43:29.000 So, let's see what you guys are saying here in the super chats.

01:43:31.000 We've got Unknown Soldier says, Does no one find it suspicious that pretty girl politically provoked came out of nowhere to be around highly persecuted dissidents?

01:43:44.000 Is she a fed? 1.00

01:43:46.000 She's out here trying to seduce Beardson, perhaps. 1.00

01:43:53.000 Why would you call her pretty?

01:43:54.000 I mean, what's that all about?

01:43:55.000 What are you simping over her or something?

01:43:57.000 I mean, I think she's older than me, so. 1.00

01:44:01.000 Does no one find it suspicious that that sexy girl that I. Why even throw her a bone like that? 1.00

01:44:10.000 You know, you people just can't help yourselves.

01:44:13.000 You just can't help yourselves, can you? 0.99

01:44:16.000 I don't think she's fat. 1.00

01:44:18.000 I think she's just another e girl, you know? 1.00

01:44:21.000 You know, I'm friendly with her and everything. 1.00

01:44:23.000 I'm nice to her, but listen, every woman in this space is just trying to, like, You know, it's about the economy of male attention. 1.00

01:44:30.000 Everybody knows that. 0.98

01:44:31.000 So I see it very cynically, but, you know, she's nice enough.

01:44:36.000 There's a utility in what she does, I guess.

01:44:40.000 But, you know, whatever.

01:44:44.000 It is what it is.

01:44:46.000 I'll just say he's always on that show.

01:44:48.000 I don't know what to tell you, but some of these people, they're always on this girl's show.

01:44:54.000 You know, I dropped in there the other night because Destiny was on there.

01:44:58.000 I dropped in there because there was a debate, but I never.

01:45:00.000 I'm never like, hey, Britney, come on, politically provoked.

01:45:04.000 But these guys always are on there.

01:45:06.000 They're always on there. 1.00

01:45:13.000 That Mio kid in particular, that Mio guy, I mean, what the hell?

01:45:17.000 He's a sidekick to a girl. 1.00

01:45:19.000 Britney does politically provoked, and Mio, okay, it's much cooler in here.

01:45:23.000 I open the door.

01:45:24.000 Okay, I'm cooling off.

01:45:26.000 Okay, cool down, achieve.

01:45:29.000 You're at a.

01:45:31.000 Reactor meltdown happening, but we've cooled down.

01:45:35.000 I'm good now. 0.99

01:45:38.000 But Mio, he's like a sidekick to a girl.

01:45:41.000 She's the main character, and he's like her little plucky pet, like her little sidekick.

01:45:47.000 It's just like so emasculating.

01:45:49.000 I just can't even anymore.

01:45:52.000 I see it everywhere.

01:45:53.000 And you know what I realized?

01:45:55.000 I just need to be alone.

01:45:57.000 That's what I realized over time.

01:46:01.000 My entire life, I sort of looked at.

01:46:07.000 You know, sort of like friendship and groups, and I was always sort of socially on the outside looking in.

01:46:14.000 You know, I've always had friends, I've always had groups of friends, but I've always been an alien.

01:46:19.000 I'm not like other people, I'm just sort of a spiritual outsider.

01:46:26.000 And I always, you know, had this curiosity and maybe a longing to belong.

01:46:34.000 And you know what I've realized over time is, you know what, I'm just resigning myself to just being a loner.

01:46:39.000 I'm alone.

01:46:40.000 I accept that now.

01:46:42.000 You know, it's like that song, Better Off Alone.

01:46:45.000 You know, I'm better off alone.

01:46:47.000 Because, you know, I see all these simps and all this, you know, all these behaviors that I really just can't stand.

01:46:53.000 And I'm like, I can't be around it.

01:46:56.000 I just can't be around it.

01:46:58.000 I can't be around that, you know? 1.00

01:47:01.000 So, you know, and I look at these niggas, I'm like, oh my gosh, I can't suffer it. 1.00

01:47:12.000 I've given up. 1.00

01:47:13.000 I've given up my search for, you know, compatibility.

01:47:17.000 I've given up.

01:47:24.000 So, I'm just going to channel all of that.

01:47:30.000 That's what I've decided.

01:47:31.000 I'm going to take all of that and just channel it into my work.

01:47:35.000 I'll take all of my, whatever is not happening socially, I'm just going to take all of it and redirect it into my sort of eccentric passions and my projects.

01:47:50.000 And all of that, because that's really all that I'm deriving any kind of satisfaction and fulfillment from.

01:47:57.000 The rest is just frustrating, to be quite honest.

01:48:00.000 The rest is just infuriating.

01:48:04.000 Because I go around people and I feel obligated to be around people.

01:48:09.000 And then I'm around people and I don't really enjoy it.

01:48:13.000 So I'm just sort of going back to square one.

01:48:18.000 I'm just sort of simplifying and just building a new.

01:48:23.000 A new understanding, you know.

01:48:25.000 I'm going all in on incel, okay?

01:48:28.000 I'm embracing incel.

01:48:30.000 That's just how it's supposed to be, I guess.

01:48:34.000 So, I guess that's the move.

01:48:37.000 Because I see the Mio thing, and it's like, I must be the only guy who's like, you know, what the hell's wrong with you? 1.00

01:48:48.000 The guy's a sidekick to a woman. 0.90

01:48:51.000 To a woman. 0.96

01:48:52.000 He goes dutifully. 0.50

01:48:54.000 Every night he goes in, and I like the guy, he's a nice guy, but he dutifully goes in there every night to be like, Hi, Brittany, I'm here, I'm here, I'm back.

01:49:06.000 Hi, Brittany, you're so cool, and be her little like minion.

01:49:11.000 And like, nobody sees anything wrong with this, like, but this is, and to a lesser extent, this is like what every guy does now.

01:49:19.000 And I'm like, It's like, is there something wrong with me?

01:49:23.000 Am I the weird one?

01:49:26.000 Apparently, yes.

01:49:28.000 So I'm just, I'm out.

01:49:30.000 I'm out.

01:49:31.000 You know what?

01:49:32.000 I quit.

01:49:33.000 I resign from public life.

01:49:37.000 I resign from social.

01:49:40.000 I resign from society.

01:49:42.000 I am outside of, you live in a society?

01:49:45.000 I don't.

01:49:46.000 I am outside of society.

01:49:48.000 You know, I'm seceding from society.

01:49:53.000 I am a society of one, okay?

01:49:56.000 I'm gonna move into a building.

01:49:59.000 I am gonna move to like some high rise in Florida.

01:50:02.000 I'm going to live at the top.

01:50:04.000 I'm never going to leave.

01:50:05.000 I'm never going to do anything other than work.

01:50:07.000 No one will see me.

01:50:09.000 I'll hire like one person to be my ambassador to the world.

01:50:12.000 And that's going to be, I think I've decided that's my new direction in my life because the rest of it is just too, it's almost just too infuriating to bear sometimes. 1.00

01:50:25.000 This little nigga, he goes on this show. 1.00

01:50:28.000 He jumps on these Zoom calls and goes, Hi, Brittany. 1.00

01:50:32.000 And she goes, Hi, Mio.

01:50:34.000 Oh my gosh, you're so cute, or whatever.

01:50:36.000 And it's like, what's going on?

01:50:41.000 I mean, this is just so twisted.

01:50:47.000 And then, you know what the worst part is?

01:50:50.000 And here's the worst part.

01:50:53.000 You know, I see some of you in the live chat, and people are saying, That sounds great.

01:50:57.000 Me too.

01:50:58.000 You know, blah, blah, blah.

01:51:00.000 And, you know, and that's really the worst part is, you know, people come around and they're like, Wow, Nick, I'm just like you.

01:51:08.000 And it's like, No, you're not.

01:51:10.000 No, you're not.

01:51:12.000 No, you're not.

01:51:13.000 That's really, and that's the worst part.

01:51:15.000 I was just on the Dalton stream, and Dalton was like, You know, yeah, I'm like the man of the house, and yeah, I agree with you, Nick.

01:51:24.000 And it's like, You know, full well, you know, full well.

01:51:28.000 He says that, and then he gets back with his wife, and it's like, You know, honey, I'm home, you know.

01:51:35.000 And that's how they all are.

01:51:37.000 They all try to come around me and be like, I'm an insult like you, Nick.

01:51:41.000 And then they go back. 1.00

01:51:45.000 And then the wife, the old ball and chain, is like, cut that incel crap. 0.99

01:51:51.000 And they're like, yes, dear. 0.99

01:51:55.000 And that is honestly the worst part.

01:51:58.000 So don't even front with me.

01:52:00.000 Don't even front with me like that.

01:52:01.000 It is what it is.

01:52:02.000 You don't want to be like me.

01:52:04.000 You don't want to.

01:52:09.000 Do not envy this incel of Beardson.

01:52:14.000 Beardson says, me and Nick are the only incels left.

01:52:16.000 I'll cut out your tongue if you keep saying that.

01:52:19.000 Okay.

01:52:23.000 But no, you don't want any part of this.

01:52:26.000 You know, you're a part of society.

01:52:28.000 Enjoy.

01:52:29.000 Okay, enjoy.

01:52:33.000 But that's what I've decided.

01:52:35.000 I've seen enough.

01:52:36.000 I'm packing my bags and I am seceding from society.

01:52:40.000 It's what I've decided.

01:52:41.000 I've really seen enough.

01:52:44.000 I've been down this road enough times and I'm like, you know what?

01:52:49.000 Uh,.

01:52:49.000 I think I'm good.

01:52:51.000 I think I'm good.

01:52:52.000 I think I'm okay, actually.

01:52:55.000 I think I'm all good.

01:52:58.000 Black pilled.

01:52:59.000 Black pilled by politically provoked. 0.66

01:53:03.000 Destiny's very based on this. 0.99

01:53:05.000 Destiny says he hates women.

01:53:06.000 I'm like, you know what, Destiny? 1.00

01:53:11.000 He gets it. 0.53

01:53:12.000 He hates women, and he's a little more extreme than me on this, because I don't hate women. 1.00

01:53:17.000 I just can't really relate to them at all. 0.98

01:53:21.000 But he was on a stream the other day and he said he hates women.

01:53:25.000 I was like, you know what?

01:53:27.000 Maybe this guy's not so bad after all.

01:53:29.000 But someone says, Nick Tau.

01:53:32.000 Yeah, I'm a Nick Tau.

01:53:34.000 It's true.

01:53:35.000 I'm a Nick going his own way.

01:53:37.000 Nick Gow.

01:53:38.000 Nick going his own way.

01:53:40.000 That's so true.

01:53:42.000 Going my own way.

01:53:48.000 No, I kid.

01:53:49.000 Well, I'm not really kidding.

01:53:51.000 That's the thing.

01:53:52.000 I'm not really kidding.

01:53:55.000 No, no.

01:53:55.000 I mean, I'm just trying to fit in.

01:54:00.000 Because I want to fit in.

01:54:02.000 That's, you know, when I say I'm like, you know, when I say I'm like taxi driver and American psycho and joker, you know, it's really, it's all real.

01:54:12.000 It's all real.

01:54:15.000 And we're really relating.

01:54:17.000 We're relating, okay?

01:54:19.000 We're finding commonality in these archetypes, okay?

01:54:24.000 Modern American archetypes.

01:54:29.000 Because I want to fit in.

01:54:31.000 You know, that's so me.

01:54:33.000 It's so me.

01:54:35.000 You know, and I'll try to fit in and all that, but I think I've realized, you know, I'm in a society, I'm the Joker, right?

01:54:43.000 In a world of Bruce Wayne's, I'm a Joker, okay?

01:54:47.000 In a world of Batman's and Bruce Wayne's and Black Catwoman, I'm a Riddler.

01:54:55.000 I'm a Joker, okay?

01:54:57.000 I am Travis Bickle.

01:55:00.000 It's just, that's sort of just the way that it is.

01:55:06.000 So, you would never understand that.

01:55:10.000 You would never understand what that's like.

01:55:12.000 I'm a plankton.

01:55:13.000 In the world of SpongeBobs, I'm a plankton.

01:55:17.000 I'm a Sheldon plankton with my computer wife, with my supercomputer wife, and my holographic meatloaf and my chum bucket.

01:55:27.000 I'm the chum bucket, you know, chum burger.

01:55:31.000 I'm the chum dog at the chum bucket with my computer wife, my holographic meatloaf.

01:55:40.000 And, you know, it's how it is.

01:55:45.000 And that's how it is.

01:55:46.000 So, anyway, it's a great question.

01:55:51.000 What was the question again?

01:55:52.000 I don't even remember.

01:55:56.000 That was our first super chat.

01:55:58.000 I think it's about 20 minutes on that super chat.

01:56:02.000 Justin says, during your travels, have you ever met Scott Presler?

01:56:05.000 I see him on the timeline doing a lot of activism for Republicans. 1.00

01:56:09.000 Is he one of those decent fags? 1.00

01:56:12.000 Yeah, I've met him. 1.00

01:56:13.000 I've told the story a hundred times.

01:56:18.000 I don't know.

01:56:19.000 I'm kind of mixed.

01:56:20.000 I mean, on the one hand, he's like, you know, I just think what he is doing is ineffective.

01:56:26.000 And I'm not a fan.

01:56:30.000 I'm not a fan of him personally. 1.00

01:56:32.000 And he's like flamboyantly gay. 1.00

01:56:37.000 And he's like a party guy, he's like a Republican party guy. 1.00

01:56:44.000 And I don't like the phrase like decent fags. 0.96

01:56:49.000 I think that's kind of like an oxymoron because if, here's my feelings on it. 0.81

01:56:56.000 I'm honestly not the most virulently homophobic person in a certain sense.

01:57:03.000 Like, you know, take Peter Thiel as an example. 0.98

01:57:07.000 He is gay, but you would never know it. 0.57

01:57:11.000 He doesn't talk about it.

01:57:14.000 And, you know, he got outed by Gawker years ago.

01:57:17.000 I'm not good.

01:57:18.000 I would never be like, oh, you know what? 1.00

01:57:20.000 Like, fuck him or whatever. 1.00

01:57:23.000 I'm not just saying that because he's rich either. 1.00

01:57:24.000 I'm not just saying that because he's rich.

01:57:26.000 He doesn't give me money.

01:57:27.000 I, you know, but hey, we would always welcome.

01:57:30.000 We would always welcome as long as no strings attached.

01:57:33.000 But what's really bothersome are just like these people that are like freaks. 0.99

01:57:41.000 Like when I see Scott Presler and he's in these ridiculous cowboy boots. 0.95

01:57:45.000 And he's got the long girl hair, and he's like, you know, and he's like sassy. 0.96

01:57:51.000 And it's like, get that away from me.

01:57:54.000 Just get it away from me.

01:57:56.000 You know, that to me, that is what I feel like a deep revulsion for and all that.

01:58:02.000 But, you know, so in that sense, there's no, but there's really, it's not decency.

01:58:08.000 That whole situation is not decent.

01:58:11.000 So I would really say it's something more like, I would not say decent, I would say benign.

01:58:17.000 Now, if you're sort of like benign, I really don't care.

01:58:20.000 You know, is it still wrong?

01:58:22.000 It is wrong.

01:58:25.000 But from a social, political point of view, it is benign in a sense. 1.00

01:58:30.000 But, you know, we all know we're talking about like these faggots. 1.00

01:58:34.000 Like, that's just so, you know, it's just awful. 1.00

01:58:40.000 And I don't, you know, it's a bane on society.

01:58:42.000 I don't know why.

01:58:43.000 I mean, it is all together, but that stuff in particular is like, I'm just wondering who is seeing that and being like, yeah, like more of that, please.

01:58:52.000 Fill up my cup with more of that.

01:58:53.000 Like, you know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:58:55.000 So, to answer your question, he is, um, He's a flamboyant sort of fag, but I guess as benign as possible. 1.00

01:59:07.000 I mean, in a certain way. 1.00

01:59:10.000 He's not out there like pushing. 0.81

01:59:12.000 The thing is, though, with a lot of these gay Republicans, because you could say like Dave Rubin, like Dave Rubin, it's sort of a tricky thing with these people.

01:59:19.000 Like Dave Rubin, he's another one where he's not really flamboyant, but he is one of these gay people where he is militantly pro gay.

01:59:30.000 You know, and if like you're not down with that, he's got a problem with you.

01:59:34.000 Same with, you know, like Jeff Giza is kind of this way. 0.64

01:59:39.000 And I used to talk to Jeff Giza years ago, and he's a nice enough guy and everything, but he's also like fiercely pro gay adoption.

01:59:47.000 And if you're not in favor of gay adoption, because he's a gay dad and he adopted, I think, I forget if it was a surrogacy or adoption, but, and if you're against that, oh, he like hates you.

02:00:00.000 You know, he's like, Totally hates you. 0.85

02:00:03.000 And so that's the thing.

02:00:03.000 He's another one where he's not like, I mean, he's a little flamboyant, but not totally in your face.

02:00:09.000 But if you're not down with it, like he hates you. 0.89

02:00:14.000 So I look at gay people like all type. 0.93

02:00:17.000 Ryan Falk, I don't mind it.

02:00:19.000 I don't really mind it, you know, because Ryan Falk, he's not flamboyant. 1.00

02:00:23.000 He doesn't push gay, even though he is a fag, whatever, you know. 1.00

02:00:29.000 So, but Scott Presler's flamboyant and he's probably like one of these more, you know, one of. 1.00

02:00:35.000 It would be a big problem if you were against the gay agenda for him.

02:00:38.000 So that's my take on that.

02:00:43.000 But I don't like Scott Presler. 0.99

02:00:45.000 He was a dick to me. 1.00

02:00:45.000 He was a jerk to me. 1.00

02:00:47.000 And I was trying to be, I'm just a friendly guy to everybody, but he was a total jag off. 1.00

02:00:51.000 So it's like, whatever.

02:00:53.000 But yeah, so Scott Presler, he's, you know.

02:00:59.000 And do they all have to be like, why does it have to be a literal like Rob Smith, Scott Presler leading the charge?

02:01:07.000 I just don't get it, man.

02:01:09.000 But anyway, King Fatass says, I don't know if Patrick Hawley is based or cringe.

02:01:16.000 He's on the verge of becoming a wignat or just overdosed on red pills.

02:01:20.000 But what I do know is that this movement needs a Zoomer leader and he's a millennial.

02:01:25.000 Well, yeah, see, I really like Patrick Hawley. 0.99

02:01:31.000 He's a great guy.

02:01:32.000 I love National File.

02:01:34.000 But some of the stuff he does, I'm just like, come on, man.

02:01:37.000 Like, what are you doing?

02:01:39.000 Like, he did this big article about.

02:01:42.000 The National Socialist Club, like a puff piece for the National Socialist Club.

02:01:49.000 And I'm like, you know, why?

02:01:52.000 Just like, why?

02:01:53.000 And I feel the same way about Keith Woods and some of these other people.

02:01:58.000 You have to realize at a certain point that that Wignat stuff is just a complete dead end.

02:02:04.000 And not only is it a dead end, it's counterproductive, it's just like poisonous.

02:02:10.000 And, you know, I just, I'm.

02:02:15.000 If you don't get it at this point, then you just really shouldn't be in this, is my opinion.

02:02:21.000 I'm done explaining it.

02:02:22.000 You know, you can say, well, but why, Nick?

02:02:25.000 Why would you say that's poisonous?

02:02:27.000 It's like, listen, if you don't get it, you just don't get it, okay?

02:02:31.000 If you don't understand, if you don't grasp that intuitively, you just don't have the sense.

02:02:40.000 And I'm not saying that about Holly because I like him a lot.

02:02:43.000 He's a great guy, and he's totally right on the money.

02:02:46.000 He's courageous, and he's a great writer, and he's my friend.

02:02:49.000 But I saw that article, and I'm just like, come on, man.

02:02:54.000 Like, what are we doing here?

02:02:56.000 Because, you know, these groups, there's this, and let's just say it outright.

02:03:01.000 There is this active effort on the part of the alt right to reconstitute itself.

02:03:06.000 And you see all these new groups popping up, like Patriot Front is one of them, and there's a few notable others.

02:03:12.000 And it's all these former alt right groups sort of reforming into these new. 0.99

02:03:17.000 It's the same shit, though. 1.00

02:03:19.000 Same tactics, same message, same people, literally the same dummies. 1.00

02:03:25.000 But they just, oh, we have a new thing now.

02:03:27.000 New name and new Telegram channel and whatever.

02:03:30.000 And.

02:03:33.000 And listen, they tried that.

02:03:35.000 It didn't work.

02:03:37.000 The people are dysfunctional.

02:03:38.000 The message is not resonating.

02:03:42.000 The strategies don't work.

02:03:45.000 So, like, and if something doesn't work, I hate it.

02:03:49.000 If something doesn't work, I don't want to be a part of it.

02:03:52.000 I don't want to be associated with it.

02:03:54.000 I don't want to be a part of, like, a loser club.

02:03:58.000 And, you know, so when I see Keith Woods pushing this stuff on Telegram, I'm like, just what are you doing, man?

02:04:04.000 Like, You're a smart enough guy.

02:04:07.000 Why are you pushing all this garbage where it's like borderline, probably confidential informants? 0.78

02:04:13.000 It's people that just don't know what they're doing. 0.98

02:04:15.000 They don't know how to win.

02:04:17.000 And then when I see Holly doing that, I'm like, come on, man.

02:04:21.000 National Socialist Club, what are you kidding me?

02:04:24.000 You know, they tried that five, six years ago, and it's, we know that's a dead end.

02:04:31.000 We know that that stuff is just, it's just awful.

02:04:34.000 It's just, it's cringe.

02:04:36.000 That's not, it's not based, it's not, and it doesn't even work.

02:04:41.000 You know, are we now?

02:04:42.000 I'm not a national socialist, okay?

02:04:45.000 And it's not because, I'm not saying that for the media.

02:04:48.000 They'll call me whatever anyway.

02:04:49.000 It's just that's not what I believe in. 0.67

02:04:51.000 And none of these groups are Christian, none of these groups are conservative. 0.96

02:04:55.000 I mean, that's one of the biggest things they're all pagan. 0.73

02:04:59.000 And none of them are Christian. 0.99

02:05:00.000 If they supported what we support, they would just join us, but they don't, you know? 1.00

02:05:06.000 They want to do their own thing.

02:05:08.000 And they want to do their own thing because their thing is distinct from our thing. 0.96

02:05:12.000 And one of the big distinctions is they're not Christian.

02:05:15.000 If they were Christian and patriots, they would just say, oh, wow, I was wrong. 0.65

02:05:19.000 I'm just going to join America first. 0.89

02:05:21.000 But they keep creating these LARP organizations where they're pushing Hitler and they're pushing paganism and they're pushing Satanism. 0.65

02:05:30.000 They're casting spells. 0.56

02:05:31.000 They're part of Order of the Nine Angles.

02:05:33.000 They're confidential informants.

02:05:36.000 There's nothing good can come from that.

02:05:38.000 And you know what? 0.91

02:05:39.000 I don't mind that they exist because, good, it's going to attract other losers and other pagans and other weirdos, and that'll keep them away from us.

02:05:47.000 It's like a sort of like a mousetrap, but that only works if there's no crossover.

02:05:53.000 So I, you know, I just don't want to be seen as, you know, people on their side are always talking about, you know, when is Nick going to join up with Mike Enoch?

02:06:03.000 Never. 0.97

02:06:04.000 It is never going to be fruitful for me to work with a loser.

02:06:07.000 It's never going to be fruitful for me to work with a confidential informant.

02:06:11.000 I will never do that.

02:06:13.000 And there's no benefit to be gained there.

02:06:19.000 So it's very frustrating to see that happen.

02:06:21.000 But I like Patrick, I think he's a good guy.

02:06:24.000 But I see that stuff and I'm just like, come on, man.

02:06:28.000 Come on, man.

02:06:29.000 We love you, Patrick, but, you know, I see that stuff and I'm like, dude, what are we thinking?

02:06:37.000 Benjamin, I'm not saying that to be patronizing.

02:06:39.000 I just disagree with it strongly.

02:06:42.000 Benjamin says, disappointed.

02:06:44.000 Molyneux said today he is okay with Dave Rubin's family plan.

02:06:47.000 I'm asking myself, is he being genuine or is he avoiding criticism of the powers that be?

02:06:52.000 Love your work, Nick.

02:06:53.000 Up and up for AF. 1.00

02:06:54.000 I think, well, Molyneux's not Christian, so. 0.99

02:06:57.000 There's your answer. 0.90

02:06:59.000 That kind of like peaceful, whatever philosophy only gets you so far without God. 0.99

02:07:05.000 You know, that libertarian prosperity bullshit, I mean, that really just gets you so far. 0.96

02:07:14.000 Pretty Fly White Guy says, Day one of slowly buying influence. 0.99

02:07:18.000 Okay.

02:07:19.000 Anidos says, Am I the only one that thought that Scribble Groyper drawing you posted on Telegram was extremely moving?

02:07:27.000 Such great artwork.

02:07:28.000 It's unsaid who the faceless family man is.

02:07:32.000 My Groyper intuition tells me that it's actually a future destiny.

02:07:36.000 Looking up so proudly at his old best friend. 0.58

02:07:39.000 Yeah, maybe. 0.56

02:07:39.000 Prophetic? 0.56

02:07:41.000 Zoomer guy says, Hi, friend.

02:07:43.000 Been a while.

02:07:43.000 Yeah, I love the portrait, by the way.

02:07:45.000 It was awesome.

02:07:47.000 And Scribble Groyper is very talented.

02:07:51.000 Zoomer guy says, Hi, friend.

02:07:54.000 Been a while since I super chatted right now, laying back on the couch, smoking a Navalny and Zelensky pack.

02:08:02.000 Yale students always try to provoke Putin, but he is destined to revive the Russian Empire. 0.75

02:08:06.000 So true. 0.94

02:08:08.000 Requiem says, Destiny.

02:08:09.000 Wow, I feel like Nick Fuentes right now.

02:08:12.000 Lauren Southern, Vine Boom sound effect.

02:08:14.000 Yeah.

02:08:16.000 Spencer says, Hey, Nick, what's your cozy streak at?

02:08:19.000 I think it's at 12.

02:08:26.000 Ian says, To what extent do you think Call of Duty unironically had an effect on convincing people that Russia is bad?

02:08:33.000 I say pretty significantly, actually.

02:08:36.000 I think it's negligible, honestly.

02:08:39.000 Ian says, You are watching the Nicholas J. Fuentes Power Hour.

02:08:42.000 Tune in on weekdays at 6 p.m. Pacific time to watch Nick Fuentes get droned by Mossad.

02:08:47.000 Do you remember that, Nick?

02:08:49.000 Glad you're safe.

02:08:49.000 That was classic.

02:08:50.000 Yeah, I remember.

02:08:53.000 Thomas says, Hey, Nick, love the show. 0.93

02:08:55.000 You should make a Z hat. 0.96

02:08:57.000 Yeah, thanks for the idea.

02:08:59.000 Smiley the Fed says, Just hit 100 YouTube subs doing some IRL with Wooza and Zycotic.

02:09:05.000 I had my Russian flag cape. 0.86

02:09:07.000 And Putin shirt on to find those pogs for Putin.

02:09:10.000 We even ran into Hulk Hogan at a karaoke bar.

02:09:13.000 HH.

02:09:14.000 Wow, nice.

02:09:16.000 Majorian says NATO claims to be a defensive alliance, but both Serbia and Libya, but it attacked both Serbia and Libya.

02:09:25.000 Neither country attacked a NATO member to anyone America's hostile towards.

02:09:28.000 It looks offensive.

02:09:29.000 Yeah.

02:09:31.000 Paulo says Nick, are you a supreme gentleman?

02:09:33.000 What are your thoughts on Elliot Rodger?

02:09:35.000 Oh, it's a terrible killer.

02:09:37.000 Arizona Chad says, Hey, Nick, it's been a few weeks, but great meeting and hanging out with you during AFPAC weekend. 1.00

02:09:43.000 It was my first IRL event, and all the Groypers and Eslaves were such real niggas. 1.00

02:09:47.000 Hype for the next. 1.00

02:09:48.000 Hey, well, sorry for attacking you earlier, but great meeting you as well.

02:09:54.000 Very Chad, very based.

02:09:57.000 Love to see the Chads.

02:09:59.000 You know, it's good to see the other people, but it's also really good to see the Chads because it's like, you know what, if there's buy in from the Chads, you know, we're in good shape.

02:10:08.000 So.

02:10:09.000 Yeah, great meeting you, man.

02:10:11.000 Great to hang out at the Meme Mansion and glad you had a good time at AFPAC, your first IRL event.

02:10:17.000 Just, you know, the TikTok content just has to improve a little bit.

02:10:23.000 The Batman meme, that was a good start.

02:10:27.000 But, you know, we just want to get some better TikTok content.

02:10:32.000 You know, I'm following you, so I see what's up.

02:10:36.000 But, yeah, I believe in you.

02:10:37.000 I think there's some good stuff.

02:10:39.000 The Batman thing you sent me, that was Keck.

02:10:41.000 That was good stuff.

02:10:43.000 But thanks a lot, man.

02:10:44.000 I appreciate it.

02:10:45.000 Good to hear from you.

02:10:46.000 Sorry I attacked you earlier, but, you know, just wasn't on purpose.

02:10:52.000 Burgish says, hey, hey.

02:10:55.000 Donald Trump says, had a meeting to get an internet provider for my boss, and this representative with cogent communications bragged to me about how they cut off internet to their clients in Russia.

02:11:06.000 Very messed up.

02:11:08.000 That is messed up.

02:11:10.000 Wooza says, I wish Ukraine had a brutus type figure that would stab President Zelensky, if only, right?

02:11:17.000 Dan says, epic debate and stream tonight, man.

02:11:20.000 Your skills with rhetoric are just so nice to hear. 1.00

02:11:22.000 They are a breath of fresh air when all we hear is faggotry daily. 1.00

02:11:26.000 So true. 1.00

02:11:28.000 Major says the chuck wagon is goaded.

02:11:32.000 Okay. 1.00

02:11:33.000 Bingus says, Watch Destiny debate Tranny Sports with a bunch of shitlibs and trannies earlier. 1.00

02:11:38.000 He really does despise the community on the left, and it shows you'll flip him. 1.00

02:11:43.000 Sheev Fuentes.

02:11:45.000 Very true.

02:11:47.000 Yep.

02:11:48.000 You know, hey, the proverbial, you know, I'm going to be being attacked by.

02:11:54.000 I said this before. 1.00

02:11:55.000 Vosh will be about to finish me off in a duel. 1.00

02:11:59.000 And Destiny will say, I need him! 0.99

02:12:02.000 And you know, he's going to say, He's got control of the Groypers and the Congress.

02:12:07.000 He's too dangerous to be left alive. 1.00

02:12:11.000 And then Destiny's going to cut off Vosh's hand and kill him. 0.99

02:12:16.000 And then he's going to pledge himself to my teachings. 1.00

02:12:21.000 And then I'm going to send Destiny to kill all the Wignats. 1.00

02:12:26.000 I'm going to send Destiny to wherever the Wignats are holed up at. 1.00

02:12:31.000 I'm going to send you to. 1.00

02:12:34.000 Where are they, Indiana?

02:12:36.000 I'm going to send you.

02:12:39.000 Wipe them out. 1.00

02:12:42.000 Once again, the Groivers will rule. 1.00

02:12:46.000 And he's going to go and his eyes are going to turn yellow and he's going to turn and look at the, you know. 1.00

02:12:56.000 That's going to be a slaughter.

02:12:57.000 Destiny's going to go and debate Patriot Front and he's going to go and debate all the others.

02:13:06.000 Or maybe all the cozy streamers.

02:13:07.000 Maybe he's going to go and debate Dalton and Vince and Steve.

02:13:11.000 And there can only be two.

02:13:14.000 And, you know, me and Destiny build the Death Star.

02:13:17.000 No, I kid, of course.

02:13:21.000 But yeah, wouldn't that be a trip?

02:13:26.000 Going to send him to the Jedi Temple. 1.00

02:13:28.000 And then he's going to kill all the. 1.00

02:13:30.000 Going to slaughter the left wing community. 1.00

02:13:33.000 Vosh and Hassan and that Tranny he was debating with. 1.00

02:13:37.000 Catch him off balance. 1.00

02:13:39.000 Execute order 66.

02:13:43.000 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.

02:13:44.000 We're going to build the super weapon.

02:13:46.000 Oh, yeah.

02:13:47.000 Yeah, you bet.

02:13:49.000 You bet. 1.00

02:13:53.000 Destiny, there's too many Groypers. 1.00

02:13:56.000 What are we going to do? 1.00

02:13:59.000 And he turns his lightsaber on.

02:14:04.000 And then his best friend, Hassan, is going to be like to his girlfriend.

02:14:09.000 I saw him. 1.00

02:14:11.000 Killing younglings. 0.97

02:14:14.000 I'm so sorry. 0.95

02:14:18.000 He's the father, isn't he?

02:14:21.000 I'm so sorry. 0.99

02:14:22.000 And then he's going to go to Mustafar. 0.63

02:14:23.000 Then they're going to fight Destiny and Hassan or Vosh.

02:14:28.000 Then they're going to fight.

02:14:32.000 I sense Destiny is in danger.

02:14:35.000 You know, then I'm going to pick up whatever's left of him.

02:14:37.000 You know, he's going to be crawling around.

02:14:40.000 You know, he's going to be crawling.

02:14:43.000 And then I'm going to pick him up and bring him back to Coruscant.

02:14:46.000 And, you know, she was alive.

02:14:51.000 I felt it.

02:14:52.000 And I'm going to, you know,.

02:14:55.000 Patch him up, and then he's going to become this sort of cyber enhanced person.

02:15:08.000 So that's how it's going to play out.

02:15:11.000 It's going to be pretty ugly. 0.99

02:15:15.000 Where is Melina? 0.70

02:15:16.000 Is that her name?

02:15:20.000 Is she safe?

02:15:21.000 Is she all right?

02:15:24.000 It seems in your anger, you killed her.

02:15:28.000 She was alive.

02:15:29.000 I felt it.

02:15:32.000 Oh, yeah.

02:15:32.000 Yep.

02:15:33.000 So very tragic, but I'm going to harness his power to, you know, take over the country.

02:15:42.000 It's.

02:15:42.000 It's going to happen.

02:15:43.000 Use his pain to make him stronger.

02:15:52.000 And that's really the plan.

02:15:54.000 guess it all ends with me sort of creating uh destructive final order and like knocking all the galaxy okay

02:16:50.000 This cord keeps coming unplugged.

02:16:52.000 Whenever I hit my desk, it knocks that cord out.

02:16:57.000 All right. 0.55

02:16:59.000 So, anyway, so as I was saying, so I was saying, you know, where this is going is I'm going to be on Exegol and I am going to blast the entire galaxy fleet out of the sky with force lightning and knock some girl into a cavern with the force push. 0.89

02:17:18.000 Pfft.

02:17:20.000 It's Star Wars 9 when he was like, and this will be the last of this.

02:17:20.000 That was awesome.

02:17:25.000 What is it?

02:17:26.000 I don't even.

02:17:26.000 I've seen that movie like one time.

02:17:28.000 But he was like, this will be the last word in the Skywalker bloodline or whatever. 0.98

02:17:33.000 And he fucking force pushes both of them into a cave. 0.96

02:17:38.000 Or does he knock out Ben Solo? 0.99

02:17:41.000 Knocks him into the cave.

02:17:42.000 And then she's just laying down bloody and bashed.

02:17:47.000 And he's just nuking the whole galaxy fleet.

02:17:50.000 Pretty epic.

02:17:54.000 It was kind of awesome. 0.99

02:17:56.000 The way that she killed him was gay, though, and she's like, and I'm all the Jedi. 1.00

02:18:01.000 It's not really satisfying. 0.94

02:18:07.000 Anyway, so that's where this is going, I guess.

02:18:19.000 Where was I?

02:18:21.000 Traxton says, What do you think about Yeji from Itzy?

02:18:26.000 I don't know what that is.

02:18:28.000 Kyle says mutually assured destruction probably applies in the cybersecurity realm as well.

02:18:34.000 We'll shut down your energy networks if you shut down ours, maybe to a lesser extent because it's harder to showcase or flex those types of capabilities.

02:18:41.000 Come to Louisiana or Georgia. 1.00

02:18:43.000 Lots of girls would like to simp for a man. 1.00

02:18:46.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

02:18:49.000 Get out of town, man. 1.00

02:18:51.000 Oh, my.

02:18:52.000 There's so much wrong with the super chat.

02:18:52.000 Do you know what?

02:18:55.000 No, no.

02:18:56.000 There is nothing comparable with cybersecurity.

02:18:58.000 That's just not even close.

02:19:00.000 And, um, go to Louisiana or Georgia, man.

02:19:07.000 Get the, what do you get out of here?

02:19:09.000 No, I'm not coming to Georgia or Louisiana. 0.96

02:19:14.000 And I'm not going there for girls. 0.99

02:19:16.000 I'm high, you know, could you imagine me with my fucking suitcase packed? 0.99

02:19:22.000 I'm here for the girls. 0.99

02:19:23.000 Someone told me there were girls here.

02:19:25.000 Could you imagine? 0.56

02:19:26.000 Could you imagine something so low? 0.99

02:19:28.000 Could you imagine something so pathetic? 1.00

02:19:32.000 Ugh. 0.99

02:19:33.000 Here I am. 1.00

02:19:35.000 Where's the girls to sip over me? 1.00

02:19:38.000 Hey, you know what I'm here for?

02:19:42.000 You know, I'm a little bit more complicated than that, okay? 0.99

02:19:45.000 I'm a little, there's, takes a little bit more than, you know, these people, these fucking people. 0.98

02:19:56.000 Yeah, I'm going to come to, first of all, like I'm ever going to move to Georgia, but I'm going to go there for the southern girls. 0.99

02:20:06.000 For the babes, jeez, get out of town with that. 0.99

02:20:12.000 I just like it's like you people don't even know me, it's like you don't even know who I am.

02:20:16.000 Like, I'll oh my gosh.

02:20:25.000 Yeah, I just, I don't know, man.

02:20:26.000 The way that you people think of me, it's like you don't even know me.

02:20:29.000 You know, I'm just so misunderstood.

02:20:31.000 It's like you don't even know me.

02:20:33.000 You know, I do this show every night, thousands of hours of content.

02:20:36.000 It's like you guys don't even, you talk to me like you don't even know who I am, you know?

02:20:41.000 I'm so misunderstood. 0.97

02:20:42.000 Like, there's this me that you think of in your head, and you think, like, I'm going to wear a fucking cowboy hat, or you think I'm going to go to the Alamo, or you think I'm going to move to Louisiana for the girls or something. 0.85

02:20:53.000 And then there's like, you know, then there's, Nick Fuentes, the eccentric genius, misunderstood, you're screaming into the void every night. 0.93

02:21:05.000 It's sort of what sucks about being famous, you know, struggle for your own identity, for me, you know, who I am.

02:21:15.000 But anyway, South is overrated.

02:21:22.000 It is what it is.

02:21:23.000 But anyway.

02:21:29.000 But hey, thanks for the big super chat.

02:21:31.000 Thanks for the $100 super chat, by the way.

02:21:36.000 Thank you for the $100 super chat. 0.99

02:21:37.000 But I will not move to Georgia for the girls that will simp over me, whatever the hell that means. 0.58

02:21:45.000 Like God intended.

02:21:46.000 What does that even mean, dude?

02:21:52.000 Anyway, Michael says, but hey, I appreciate the big super chat.

02:21:56.000 07s, Kyle.

02:21:57.000 Thanks a lot.

02:21:58.000 But no.

02:22:00.000 Thanks a lot, but no.

02:22:02.000 No, I will not move to Louisiana for the girls that will simp over me.

02:22:08.000 That sounds annoying, frankly. 0.62

02:22:10.000 You know what that sounds like?

02:22:11.000 That sounds annoying.

02:22:13.000 But I appreciate your consideration.

02:22:16.000 Michael says, Thank you, Nick, for delivering Logic and Knowledge every nightly program, America First is the Future. 0.79

02:22:22.000 What is your take on the deviant left begging for money to place gay bombs in Florida?

02:22:29.000 I never heard of this. 0.94

02:22:32.000 Anchor says, Thank you.

02:22:33.000 Great show today.

02:22:33.000 Thanks.

02:22:36.000 Keck Dog says, Thoughts on Jesse Ventura?

02:22:39.000 Not a fan.

02:22:41.000 Mac Mance says, Nice job teaching Destiny about IR.

02:22:44.000 That debate was literally the best dialogue on the Ukraine versus Russia on the internet, which is insane.

02:22:49.000 I know, right?

02:22:49.000 Yeah, no one else is really debating this.

02:22:52.000 So, big contribution.

02:22:57.000 Kyle says, To the audience.

02:23:01.000 So now I'm reading your super chat to my audience.

02:23:10.000 He says, look up Gianfranco Martinez.

02:23:12.000 He runs a program for quitting porn and simping. 0.99

02:23:15.000 Think of porn as like a heroin addiction, it takes your manhood away, makes you gay too. 0.99

02:23:20.000 I don't know who that is, but yeah, you should quit porn. 0.99

02:23:22.000 But, you know, these people can never quit simping. 0.70

02:23:25.000 I mean, I've never met a former simp.

02:23:28.000 It's no such thing, you know? 0.52

02:23:30.000 Yeah, but you should quit porn.

02:23:31.000 Absolutely.

02:23:34.000 But, um,.

02:23:36.000 Wow. 0.80

02:23:37.000 Porn is an addiction. 0.87

02:23:38.000 That was a really groundbreaking take.

02:23:41.000 Kyle says, by the way, you articulated the Iron Triangle needs to be an AF short clip in and of itself.

02:23:47.000 That was a perfect explanation from the universities to institutions.

02:23:50.000 Fauci was roommates with Gates at Cornell.

02:23:52.000 Yeah.

02:23:54.000 Very real.

02:23:57.000 Keg Dog says, Patrick Holley's piece wasn't about any National Socialist Club, it was about the National Socialist Club.

02:24:04.000 Okay.

02:24:04.000 Yeah.

02:24:05.000 Thanks.

02:24:13.000 Kill Animals says, I asked before if one was offered money from Russia, Soros, would one take it?

02:24:18.000 And you said no without elaborating.

02:24:20.000 So, why is it okay to take money from Peter Thiel?

02:24:22.000 What is the principle at work?

02:24:24.000 I don't think I ever said I wouldn't take money from Russia.

02:24:28.000 I think he asked about Soros, which is different.

02:24:32.000 So, I mean, now you're just misrepresenting what I said.

02:24:37.000 Kyle says Tucker Carlson did an hour interview with Kid Rock tonight.

02:24:40.000 The show is so much better.

02:24:41.000 Holy gosh.

02:24:42.000 Thank you. 1.00

02:24:43.000 Kyle says, possibly a stupid question. 0.99

02:24:45.000 Do you follow Patrick Byrne closely? 1.00

02:24:48.000 I don't know who that is.

02:24:50.000 He's working with Lindell and General Flynn from the election integrity side.

02:24:53.000 Surprised it doesn't come up on the show.

02:24:56.000 Michael and Dell and General Flynn.

02:24:57.000 It's just, that's not serious.

02:24:58.000 That's why.

02:25:00.000 Tralt says, great job in the debate, Nick.

02:25:02.000 You whooped Destiny.

02:25:03.000 I'm loving the exposure you're getting on all these mainstream platforms.

02:25:06.000 It makes a lot, man.

02:25:07.000 I appreciate it.

02:25:09.000 Yeah, glad you liked it.

02:25:10.000 It's 20,000 live viewers on all platforms, which is amazing considering I'm banned from all of them.

02:25:16.000 Just goes to show.

02:25:18.000 You know, we're making it happen.

02:25:19.000 And we had the biggest share of that was on Cozy 10,000 live viewers on Cozy.

02:25:24.000 So very impressive stuff.

02:25:27.000 Thanks a lot, man.

02:25:29.000 Kyle says, I think you did an interview with Nathan from Lift the Veil a while back.

02:25:33.000 You remember him?

02:25:34.000 I wonder if he'd be interested in Cozy.

02:25:36.000 He used to do some pretty intense interviews with SRA victims. 0.98

02:25:41.000 Yeah, maybe. 0.98

02:25:42.000 I remember him from D Live, but he was a simp for his wife. 0.97

02:25:45.000 But other than that, yeah, I'd be fine with him coming on here.

02:25:52.000 Max says, Great debate on Friday, Nick.

02:25:54.000 You are one of the smartest guys I know, and I couldn't be prouder to be a Groyper and a follower of the great Nick Fuentes.

02:25:59.000 Good night, buddy.

02:26:00.000 God bless.

02:26:01.000 Love you, King.

02:26:02.000 Hey, thanks, man.

02:26:03.000 Love you too.

02:26:04.000 Lane says, great show tonight, Nick.

02:26:06.000 Your Valorant gameplay with Veda and UX was moving.

02:26:09.000 The Sage wall placements, the W key with the judge.

02:26:13.000 World class.

02:26:14.000 80 career Fortnite wins also.

02:26:16.000 Our fearless leader.

02:26:18.000 Yeah, you know, everyone's doubting me on Valorant, but I kind of popped off with the judge today.

02:26:22.000 So, you know, just, you know, I do what I have to do.

02:26:30.000 You know, I come in with the Bucky, I come in with the judge, I make it happen, okay?

02:26:35.000 I'm not a great player, but I may do, okay?

02:26:40.000 But thanks for acknowledging that.

02:26:42.000 Smoothie King says, love the IR streams.

02:26:45.000 It really cuts through the pretense.

02:26:46.000 You can't be a liberal without believing your own propaganda and democracy building world takeover. 0.65

02:26:52.000 Traxton says, this is Yeji.

02:26:54.000 Okay, I'm not going to pull that up. 0.98

02:26:58.000 Donald Trump says, pee pee poo poo. 0.57

02:27:01.000 I call being the last super chatter from now on. 0.90

02:27:03.000 Okay.

02:27:08.000 All right.

02:27:13.000 That's the last super chat.

02:27:14.000 I'm so tired.

02:27:16.000 I've been fixing my sleep schedule, and I'm just so fatigued.

02:27:22.000 You know, because when you fix your sleep schedule, you just get tired all the time.

02:27:26.000 You just have no energy.

02:27:27.000 I've done it so many times.

02:27:28.000 It's like the worst.

02:27:30.000 So I went to bed last night at like 11.

02:27:34.000 I woke up at 7.

02:27:36.000 Okay.

02:27:37.000 So I woke up.

02:27:39.000 I had.

02:27:39.000 I had pizza for breakfast.

02:27:42.000 I watched the Putin interviews.

02:27:44.000 I did some work.

02:27:46.000 And then I fell asleep at like, I don't know, maybe, you know, nine or ten.

02:27:53.000 Then I wake up at noon, you know, and I'm just like so tired.

02:27:57.000 And then I, you know, I force myself to get out of bed.

02:28:00.000 I drive around.

02:28:00.000 I shower.

02:28:02.000 I do stuff all day.

02:28:03.000 And I come back to the show.

02:28:05.000 I do this two hour monologue.

02:28:07.000 Now I'm doing these super chats.

02:28:09.000 I'm just, I'm beat.

02:28:11.000 I'm already fatigued because of the sleep schedule business, and then I'm just up all day.

02:28:16.000 I don't know how you guys are awake all day.

02:28:18.000 I can't do it.

02:28:19.000 I just have no energy.

02:28:22.000 You know, I had to hit a cup of coffee just to stay awake through the show.

02:28:26.000 But, you know, when I'm fixing my sleep schedule, I'm always more tired than usual.

02:28:30.000 But I don't know, man.

02:28:32.000 I don't know how to keep a regular schedule.

02:28:34.000 It's just not, it doesn't work for me.

02:28:39.000 Kyle says Patrick Byrne is legit.

02:28:41.000 Nightman, love you.

02:28:42.000 Praying for you, American hero.

02:28:43.000 Hey, thanks a lot, King.

02:28:44.000 Love you too.

02:28:46.000 07's in chat for Kyle.

02:28:48.000 Okay, so that's our last super chat.

02:28:52.000 Ugh.

02:28:55.000 Oh, man.

02:28:58.000 And I'm sweating, you know, and that was so, like, that was so strenuous.

02:29:03.000 I'm sweating over here.

02:29:04.000 Like, that was an exhausting show, and I'm not getting enough oxygen.

02:29:08.000 I'm being choked to death here.

02:29:11.000 Oh, that feels better, too.

02:29:15.000 So, that's going to do it for me.

02:29:16.000 I'm going to probably check out the UX stream if he finally gets around to doing it.

02:29:20.000 He's always saying he's going to stream, and then he never does.

02:29:24.000 But, uh,.

02:29:25.000 So, yes, that's it for me.

02:29:27.000 Thanks for watching.

02:29:29.000 Remember to follow me on Gabba Telegram.

02:29:31.000 Follow me here on Cozy.

02:29:32.000 Remember, I'm on the air Monday through Friday, 8 o'clock Central, 9 o'clock Eastern Standard Time.

02:29:37.000 As always, thanks for watching.

02:29:40.000 Thanks to our big super chatters.

02:29:42.000 In particular, our top three tonight Kyle, Black Swan, and Van.

02:29:47.000 Big shout out.

02:29:48.000 Can we get an 07 for our top three tonight?

02:29:50.000 Thank you guys so much, Kyle, Black Swan, and Van.

02:29:54.000 Van and Kyle, very consistent.

02:29:56.000 Black Swan, one of our favorites.

02:29:59.000 He talks too much, but you got to love the guy.

02:30:03.000 He pollutes these group chats.

02:30:04.000 He goes in and he's just, you know, he just posts so much in the group chats.

02:30:09.000 But I love that guy.

02:30:10.000 He's a great guy and he's very good.

02:30:13.000 He's very good at what he does.

02:30:15.000 Very big help.

02:30:16.000 You guys have no idea.

02:30:17.000 One of the real backbones of the movement.

02:30:20.000 Silent in the shadows.

02:30:23.000 And the guy's an operator and very good.

02:30:26.000 And he's real brash, real, real, real East Coast brash.

02:30:30.000 I like that.

02:30:31.000 So we love him.

02:30:32.000 We love him.

02:30:33.000 So thanks a lot, you guys.

02:30:34.000 Kyle Blackswan fan, we appreciate it.

02:30:36.000 Thanks to all our super chatters.

02:30:38.000 Thanks to everybody that watches the show.

02:30:39.000 I love you guys.

02:30:41.000 I'll see you tomorrow.

02:30:42.000 Until then, have a great rest of your evening.

02:30:47.000 Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo.

02:30:54.000 It's going to be only America first.

02:30:59.000 America first. 0.88

02:31:03.000 The American people.

02:31:05.000 We'll come first once again. 0.98

02:31:27.000 It's going to be only America first. 0.97

02:31:30.000 America first. 0.98

America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes - March 21, 2022

Destiny Ukraine Debate Recap | America First Ep. 962

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